Club Shay Shay

Nightcap Hour 3: DeMar DeRozan CLAPS BACK at Fan + Rory McIIroy WINS Back 2 Back MASTERS

49 min
Apr 13, 20265 days ago
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Summary

Club Shay Shay's Nightcap Hour 3 features hosts discussing DeMar DeRozan's trajectory toward NBA's all-time scoring top 10, Rory McIlroy's back-to-back Masters victories, and various sports comparisons. The episode includes Q&A segments with fan video submissions covering basketball matchups, sneaker collections, and player career analyses.

Insights
  • Modern athletes have extended careers due to improved training, nutrition, and financial incentives, allowing them to break historical records that were previously thought untouchable
  • Record-breaking in sports should be contextualized by era differences rather than used to diminish current players' legacies
  • Consistency in golf and individual sports is significantly harder than in team sports due to competing against both the course and opponents simultaneously
  • Financial compensation in professional sports has fundamentally changed player motivation and career longevity calculations
  • Fan engagement through social media creates opportunities for direct athlete-fan interaction and real-time commentary on career milestones
Trends
Extended athletic careers driven by improved sports science and recovery methodsRecord-breaking becoming normalized as athletes surpass historical benchmarks across sportsEra-adjusted performance analysis gaining importance in legacy discussionsFinancial incentives extending professional athlete careers beyond traditional retirement agesSocial media enabling direct fan-to-athlete dialogue and real-time performance analysisMulti-sport comparison frameworks for evaluating player versatility and skill transferabilityEmphasis on consistency and longevity as markers of greatness rather than peak performance alone
Companies
Netflix
Documentary about the Jail Blazers Portland Trail Blazers team from the 2000 era was mentioned as airing this week
Amazon
A listener mentioned working as a truck driver for Amazon, delivering packages
Discord
Platform where fans submit video questions for the Q&A segment of the show
People
DeMar DeRozan
Discussion of his career trajectory and path to NBA all-time scoring top 10
Rory McIlroy
Won back-to-back Masters championships, joining elite group of golfers to achieve this feat
Shaquille O'Neal
Referenced in context of DeRozan potentially passing him in all-time scoring
Jason Tatum
Discussed as already in top 10 for career earnings despite not being 30 years old
Tiger Woods
Referenced for back-to-back Masters wins in 2001-2002 and dominance in golf
Jack Nicklaus
Historical reference for back-to-back Masters wins in 1965-1966
Michael Jordan
Referenced in player comparison discussions and prime-era basketball analysis
Kobe Bryant
Discussed as competitor the host faced numerous times in NBA career
Brandon Roy
Discussed as talented player whose career was cut short by knee injuries
Scottie Pippen
Met by host during rookie year when Pippen was on Portland Trail Blazers
Serena Williams
Referenced as example of athlete whose greatness is better appreciated in retrospect
LeBron James
Discussed regarding whether his greatness is properly appreciated during his playing career
Quotes
"Who in the hell you have an opinion on somebody's career? Clown? Who is that?"
HostOpening segment
"The game is different. These guys no more. These guys are in better shape. They eat different. They train different. They game faster."
HostDeRozan scoring discussion
"If you're a good player, not Joe and Ocho, if you don't make $6,700 million, you need your ass whipped."
HostSalary discussion
"It's very difficult to be consistent. You gotta compete against the course. You gotta compete against the other guys."
HostGolf discussion
"I enjoy being the bad guy. I enjoy being the villain. You hear me? And you ain't gotta look at me. But one thing about it is when we touch that court, when we touch that court and you see them tassels, we see them tassels, you know what time it is."
OchoQ&A segment
Full Transcript
Demargined Rosen only needs to average 18 points per game and another 105 games to surpass Shaq in career points in the end of the top 10. I find this deeply disturbing. Disturbing? F you mean? Who in the hell you have an opinion on somebody's career? Clown? Who is that? Somebody tweeted Demargined Rosen because if he averaged a hundred, so basically if he plays two more years, average 18 points a game, he's gonna crack the top 10 and score it. And the guy says, well, I find that disturbing because this man's gonna pass Shaq. There are, that's a different game. Very different. And he's still playing, he's still putting the ball in the bucket at an elite level. Yeah. Okay, that's okay. There are a lot of players that's gonna pass some perennial greats as far as passing touchdowns, receiving touchdowns, rushing touchdowns, that doesn't mean that they're a better player. Yeah, the game is different. Look at all these guys that's passing Merino and passing touchdowns and passing yards. They're past L weight. Game different. Oh, what are we doing? Yeah. These records, I mean, you don't say, I mean, did you set the record for perpetuity? Did you think like nobody saw that the words, whatever the record was, it's gonna be frozen in time. So nobody can crack the top 10, but the top 10. Yeah, it's more so the name. It's more, it's more. Yes. That's all. These guys no more. These guys are in better shape. They eat different. They train different. They game faster. The game, and plus the money is so great now is that, bro, I'm gonna try to make this 20 million, have a lot of money, money they're making. I'm gonna try to make this as long as I possibly can. You hear me? If you're a good player, not Joe and Ocho, if you don't make $6,700 million, you need your ass whipped. Boy. That able to have contracts. And just locking in. Yes. Locking in, bro. Good money. Jason Tatum is already in the top 10 of money earned. And he ain't even 30. Jason Tatum gonna get a crack of billion dollars in NBA salary. Yes. He gonna probably get him another 250. Oh, he got another second back. Yeah, he gonna get another, he gonna get another Supermax. Yo. Damn. Yeah, okay. DeMarco de Rosin 16. He gonna pass a lot of people. Yeah. Hell, he play another three, four years. Hell, he might pass a, we're traveling. Certificate, what the hell? I would, I would moral this one. Well, Roy McElroy had to wait more than a decade to win the Masters and complete the convert grand slam. But guess what? He went back to back. He only had a way to wait a year to take his second trophy because he becomes the first back to back champion since Tiger Woods completed the feet in 2001, 2002. Now he joins Jack Nicklaus in 65, 66, Nick Fowdo 89, 90, Tiger 0102, and now Rory McElroy. Does it? Rory won his six major title, his second or a Masters title in the last 12 months, which has firmly planted himself among the 10 best golfers of all time. The question is, how high can he climb? Hmm. He just back to back. He back to back. So he's only the fourth golfer to ever go back to back at the Masters. He already has six major titles and he's already completed the slam. So he's won the British Open, the US Open, the PGA and the Masters. And two of those are Masters. Damn, I'll destroy. Gotta be 30. And then, you know, you get, you get a lot of money. And you know, you get, you get four cracks a year. How is Rory, Ash? 30, 31? 36? 36. I didn't know. 36. Hell, and you know, Phil, Phil won a major damn there at 50. So you can play golf for a long, long, long after. Long time. Damn. You know, the funny thing about golf too, it's hard to be consistent. Yeah. As difficult as the game is, as great as all the players are, it's very difficult to be consistent. You gotta put some... They're competing against the course. You gotta compete against the other guys. They're playing the course. They're playing the same course. Yeah. Hey, you gotta put some real time in with that golf, boy. Oh, hell yeah. I'm talking about, I ain't talking about no two hours, neither. I'm talking about, yeah, four, five, six hours, yeah. A day, yes. Puttin', chippin'. You wear just use irons, fair whip. Yes, yes. You gotta put some time. You got basically, basically, basically, you become obsessed. Yeah. It's just like anything. A basketball player, football player, tennis. How much time do you think Serena and Venus put in? How much you think Alcoraz and Senna and Federer and Nadal and Yocovic, how much time do you think they put in to get greater than that? Man, listen. Hey, I got homies who play golf. I'm talking about, they jump with them boys and be out there eight hours, man. Yeah. Yeah. They playin' for fun, too, huh? They bragging rights, fun, they gambling, they doin' all type, everything goin' on. Yeah. Yeah. It's a, I never, you know, my brother loves it. He's addicted to it. You know, he's gotta build back up because he had to take that time off for his eye. He had, you know, three or four eye surgeries. He had to detach retina and, you know, he had to be face down for 20 plus hours a day. And so he had, he's gotta build back up, but he loves it. He's back out there now, but he love it. Man, bro, you need to come out here and join me. Click, let me hang up on you right quick. I ain't comin' out here, man. I'll, I'll, grew up in the South, grew up in the South, don't you? I can't take the Sun like that no more, Ocho. Yeah. Man, I grew up, you gotta think about it, Ocho. From the time I could remember, until I retired at 35, I've been in the Sun, so I was in the Sun 30 plus years. I can't do the Sun no more, man. Sun beat my ass. Man, it be so hot in the garage, like, damn. Hey. Okay, I can't get it. I can't eat Joe. I can't get into golf until I can't move no more, man. Yeah, I can't. I can't do nothing. When I can't be able to run, I can't be able to do nothing. Okay, I can't, it just, ain't no movement for me, Joe. I gotta be movin' around. I gotta be doin' something. Duh, man, golf, golf a patient game, bro. You ain't, you got no patience, Ocho. You ain't, yeah, you can't do it. No. I just go to Topgolf and hit the ball, eat. Talk, eat. Hey, look, I like doin' that too, though, while you playin'. Yeah, yeah, I do that. I don't even know if I can do that. Nah, y'all done messed my leg up, played bowling. I don't even know, I can hit the golf ball, though. Oh, man, golf ball. Y'all ruin me. I don't know what I'ma do, man. Y'all done cost me a couple of days, couple of, I gotta get right, I got my birthday coming up. I gotta get in shape, you know what I'm sayin'? Yeah, yeah. What you doin' with your birthday? Yeah. I just got a couple of dollars. No, that's about it. I ain't doin' too much. Look, I'm sayin', I got, hold on, what the day is? What's the day's date? Day to 12? Day to 13, okay. How many days in this month? 31 to 30. April 30th or April 31st? April 30th. 30. Okay, they got 30. They got 31 in May. So I got no 17. May. 31, that's 48, my birthday. So I got about, I got about, two, I got about 10 weeks. Okay. I'ma see what I can do. I'ma see if I can peel this one you one more time. You know what I'm sayin'? I'ma see if I can peel this one you one more time. Yeah, I'm peeling the eight. Hold on, hold on. Wait, you peeling the onion, but what you peeling the onion for? To do what? You gotta be, you gotta have it. You gotta have it, you know what I'm sayin'? I just tried to tell you, I'ma take the colorful dog. That's it? That's it. That's all I, oh, that's all I, like, like, like, like Joe say, slow motion better than no motion. Hello. Hello. I got some motion though, but it's slow. At least take a nice little trip somewhere, man. I mean, you know, I'm trying, you know, I'm trying to, from the living room to the balcony, you ask the trip. I gotta build my strength back up. They don't right leg, you know, it feel a little better on Chozo. I gotta get back in there and squat. I gotta get my, you know, you know, get back up. I got you. I got you. That's what I used to be. I got you. You know, I ain't what I once was, but I'm better than 99% of the mo' foals there ever be. There you go. There you go. No, no, no, no, ain't nothin'. Yeah. Ain't no, ain't no slow by that old Shay, but it walk right now. Oh, that boy, ain't it? I'm about to pick that up. That boy by the turn 58, oh yeah, he put a cut of rug. Hey, look, I'm about to turn 45 over here, man. I'm about to do a little something too, you hear me? Woo! Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, okay, I'm gonna throw this thing. I'm gonna throw this. Let's do something, folks, do something, this. Hey, I'm gonna throw this thing, a party over here. You hear me? Oh, you throw the party? I'm gonna throw this thing, a party over here, yeah. Okay, okay, Joe, okay. When your birthday, oh, Joe, you in June too, right? 29th, 29th of June. Okay, I'm in 26th. Yeah, yeah. Okay, hey, let's have a party. I think your birthday the same day as John, he always a joke. Is it? Yeah. Yeah, you got the, cause I'm in 26th, he's the 29th. I think I done told you, but you got the same birthday as my bitch friend, phone. Yeah, well, I'll be there. I'll be there, you have a little something at the crib. Yeah, I'm gonna have a little something, something, you know what I mean? I'm gonna have a little something. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, Joe. I can come, Joe? We're gonna have to see, oh, Joe. We gotta see, your rap, your rap sheet, ain't that great. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right, Joe. I done sent you $200 already, Joe. Nah, I don't want it. I don't want it. I don't want it, take it back. Yeah, take it back. I don't want it. Okay, well, I can't wait to that party on the 26th. I'm gonna be there, boy. Oh yeah. All right, it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Before we get to our super chats, we've got four video boards, Mel, from our Discord. Make sure you check out our Discord and maybe we'll miss one of your videos. Here's the first one. Let's take a listen. What's up, oh, what's up, oh, Joe? All right, so I got a question for you, man. Oh, I watched some of your highlights today, man. One of the greatest players I've ever seen. I don't see how you got the name ISO, but I know how you got the name ISO, but they should have called your buzzer be the dog. Because you, you was cleaning the buzzers, beating them buzzers, but my question is, in your prime, in Jordan prime, in Kobe prime, best out of five, do you think you could beat one of them? You know, best out of five, and how many games do you think you could have won? I think you could have won five without love, but I want to know what you think. Yeah, yeah, I kicked their ass. Yeah, y'all talk about that. Hey, talk that shit, Joe. Don't go ahead, man. Look, I got a chance to compete against Kobe numerous occasions. I had some great battles with him, but I think what people understand from a two guard standpoint, when I first came into the league, Uncle Ocho, I was a strictly two guard. I wasn't playing really small for, powerful, nothing coming to about 12, 13 years on down the line. So me being a big two guard, I'm by the biggest two guard in the league, guys couldn't guard me. I post up, shoot the three, had a nice handle, I could get to wherever I wanted to. So I never had a problem with guys like that. You know what I mean? Would they give me problems? Yeah, but for the most part, I always feel like I can hold my own for sure. You got who I'm talking about, Joe? That was the first here that's second, but let's take a listen. NightCat Big Three, what's good with y'all, man? Isaiah tapping in again from Northern California. Look, man, I got a bone to pick with Uncle Joe and the chat. I don't think I've seen any of y'all give Ocho any kind of support. Y'all just be thinking this man lying, just a lie. And he doesn't mean what he says and he doesn't, you know, he doesn't say what he means. Look, man, hey, Joe, you gonna find out when he gets you on that court and when he gets you in that ring. And I hope Ocho do some work on you because you was hating on my take last week about Kelton Johnson winning sixth man of the year, dog. Like you was naming everybody except Kelton Johnson, man. You rooting against your own cousin winning sixth man of the year. That's crazy, dog. Hey, Ocho, handle this man, Joe, bro. Handle Joe for me. Hey, I support you, Ocho, from the Bay Area to Dade County, love. That's what I'm talking about. Hey, hey, Ocho, you better tell your man, he might wanna stay out this mess, okay? He might wanna stay out this mess, cause I tell you, he gonna get ugly. Oh, it ain't gonna get ugly. It's gonna get ugly. It's gonna get ugly. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, Joe. He right, he right. And listen, all I need is one supporter. That's all I need. I don't need everybody to support me. I enjoy being the bad guy. I enjoy being the villain. You hear me? And you ain't gotta look at me. But one thing about it is when we touch that court, when we touch that court and you see them tassels, we see them tassels, you know what time it is. Hey, look. And this here, Joe, but you don't want none of this, Joe. That's all you don't want. Hey, that's all I need is for one person to piss me off. And when I get pissed off, I'm telling you, I'm a go berserk. I'm telling you that now. Well, you got two him and Joe, him and a Ocho. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So somebody has trouble. That's all I got to say. All right, keep that. Keep that same energy now. Yeah, I'm just letting you know. Yeah, same energy. Here's our third one. Let's take a listen. What up, Nankat? I'm Ocho and still a, you know, shit boy, Brandon, live from West Virginia, sending the going to work man. Just wanted to say thank you out, man. I make overnight shifts go by so fast. Laughing at job, man. But my question is, Joe, you were a Jordan brand. Actually, I'm sure you've collected a lot of cool kicks over the years. And on cause a while, no sneaker. So if y'all have like a battle, what do you think I do? Sneakers. Yeah, I don't really know. I sold a bunch of mine. Yeah, me too. I ain't gonna lie to you. I sold 300, I think 313 to 323 pairs. You did a, I did an auction. Yeah. Yeah. But I just didn't have Jordan. I had like Air Max's. I had like Air Ones. I had 95s, 97. So I had a bunch of stuff. I had bronze. I had some exclusive stuff from Edison Chen. Not just a Vesta. I mean, I had a lot of stuff. Yeah. I had a lot of, I mean, like I had the OG's, like the cool grays, like when they came out, not the Retros. Yeah. It's breads and C-Mits. Yeah. Yeah, I had a lot of player edition shoes that they only made for us guys, different, like I play here in Atlanta. So I had like the Atlanta colors, things of that sort. So I had some pretty exclusive stuff. But like you said, I didn't got rid of so much of that stuff. I don't nearly have as much as I used to have. You know what I mean? Yeah. I still got some stuff I need to get rid of. Because I mean, when it come down to it, Ocho and Joe, I just wear the same sneakers. Yeah. I ain't been to go through all them boxes. You know, I still got some exclusive stuff. I still got the Jordan Olympics, the Mirols, and I still got the Doren Becker's, the Superman. So I got like dunk stuff, organ dunk stuff. But yeah, I'm probably going to get up off that too in the next probably year or two. Yeah. Hey, Joe, Uncle Joe, I done simplified my closet. My closet is about three different styles. Yeah. Nike Air Force 1s, my black chucks and my white chucks, a high top pair and a low top pair. Yeah. You know, a bunch of Adidas Sambas. Man, listen. Literally, that's it. Now, obviously, dress shoes and a pair of boots. Hey, look, I'm willing to get rid of a lot more, but I wear a damn size 16. And ain't many people wear those 16s. You know what I mean? So I'm stuck with a lot. I don't got homeboys who wear 16. None of my kids. So a lot of just kind of sitting. Yeah, but size 16, but you're going to be kind of slow trying to hang with me, huh? Yeah, all right. OK. But size 16, but you're going to be about two, three steps behind, Joe. Yeah. Here's our fourth and final one. Let's take a listen. Uncle, Ocho, Iso, what did you do? King Iso, my bad. Listen, I love y'all. Love y'all to death, especially you, Chad. But I got some smoke for you, my boy. I got some smoke. Listen, for one, you owe my uncle some money. And two, you owe the annoying tit one some money, too. Because you ain't getting away with them tickets. But when I'm off of them tickets, I listen. So it's only going to settle this. Not only is he going to get you one-on-one, because you know, Chad, I love you again. It's from the heart, but you ain't got no chance. But anyways, this is what we're going to do. We're going to tie your left hand behind your back. You got three minutes. Uncle, Joe, we're going to give. Love, Chad, it's all peace. Chad, it's a mine. You know what I'm saying? Love y'all, keep doing what you're doing. I listen to you guys every day. I drive a truck for Amazon. So yeah, y'all get me through my day. Love. Hey. Hey. Hey, you're driving a truck for Amazon. Stop leaving a package at the front gate. Yeah. Hey, yeah, yeah. You got the code, break that stuff and put it on the damn board. Hey, by the fact, you know what? He just pissed me off. Huh? Hey, people bracing just pissed me off, not Joe. He done made it worse. He done made it worse for you. Huh? Yeah, people bracing made it worse for you, Joe. Yeah, it's all in that. Sam, LeGrand ain't up. If the Lakers manage to win the first round series against Houston, you got to break out the gold mask for nightcap. Oh, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, you to the cat bird system under the few days. Yeah, we got you. We got something I need to get me a whole. Man, he went the first round series. I might break out a whole goat costume. By the fact, I might get a goat. You go to the like I had on under the beauty. You go go get you a goat with a little baby goat. Yeah. Well, hey, because if they pull it out, that mean Bron does an hell of a shit for it for it for show. EJ71, what's up? What's up, guys? Love the show. Make a live jar for Ocho $200 per line and split it after the year. First of all, Ocho was supposed to start a swear jar. He started that the first year. Me? Ain't no money. What a jar, don't you? Oh, no, I talked to my therapist. My therapist said I need to express myself in all ways I can. And so part of me expressing myself, even though I have an extensive vocabulary, you know, people think because you don't you don't have extensive vocabulary. Yes, I do. It just a Joe. If I say, may you know what Joe? Why? Joe, why you my dog? Yeah. Sound cool. Yeah. But if I say, man, Joe, why fucking lay your boy? See, yeah, yeah. Meaning that as emphasis on what I'm message them trying to get across. Yeah. Yeah. Don't nobody cook. Hey, don't nobody cook no food without no seasoning. Yeah, right. It gives you this. Huh? Guess what it is. It's what it adds. Five dollars to the square jar. So you add some season it and five dollars to it. OK, that's fine. That's fine. But. Yeah, how much money you think we have? If Ocho if Ocho would have kept the square jar that he started our first year and he say go put five dollars in every time he swear. How much money you think we have? A few grand. Yeah, a few grand. I'm not a listen. I've been working on it. It's like it's like alcoholic trying to stop drinking. You know, I'm trying. Yeah, you can. Alcoholic came be around alcohol if you want to stop. Well, I mean, which one we stop talking? I ain't saying that. Because I'd like to get him to start cursing, but he go cut somewhere else. You know, just he just don't curse over here. Ty realtor. Oh, if you could compare your careers or play style to an NBA player, who would it be? And I so who you compare yours to an NFL term? It can't it can't it can be past or present. Damn, who? Hey, who? Hey, you would be better because you know basketball better than I do. Who? Who? Who? Who? AI. Yeah, I just say that. I don't know. Who? Say AI. Who? Who? Who? Who? AI. You talk about artificial intelligence. Ain't no way to hear you talk about the same. Yeah. Same do it do it your way, you know, then change, then conform. It's hard because for me, my ability to start and stop. I that's what I could do. I can start, stop. I had I had shake. I would probably say. Damn. I'll probably say. I say like the undreed Johnson. Yeah, that's a good one. That's a good one. I'll prop, you know what? I'll probably say Luca. Luca ability to start and stop. Yeah, you look at you be a bad mofo, ain't you? Yeah, that's what I could do. I run around. Oh, Joe, I run around. I said that thing down because you got to realize I came from I was a wide receiver that moved the tight end. Yeah, yeah, tight end. They clumber someday. They play a bumper car. They want to bump into the guy and break away. Now I ain't trying to let you touch me because I know you didn't grab me. And I wouldn't that big. I wouldn't like a gromp or a Gonzalez guy that can, you know, that can bumper car bump into you and break away. So now I'm like, oh, no. Yeah, yeah, I'm getting skinny. Now you see me. Now you don't. Tony, oh, if she wins another MVP title, is he the third best point guard ever? I see him as a shooting guard, but he passes hard and is right behind D. Wade thoughts. Yeah, yeah, if he went, if he went another one, but he a point though. So that means he got to be what he's a will he'll be probably be the third man because, you know, magic and and and and and and stuff. And he does, he does have the ball. I mean, no matter what we want to think about A.I. and hard, yeah, there were two guards, but they got listed as point guards, so they go to his point guard, Joe. Yeah, there were two guards masquerading his points. There you go. There you go. You can say, man. He a different breed, bro. Yeah, you know, focus locked in. Yeah. Keep his nose clean. He playing out of a stupid hard working. Yeah, he get another one, boy. Yeah, he going to be up in there. He going to be in that conversation. Oh, he going to pass. So he going to pass them do some some legends. Yeah. Sir Alexander I. So my Arkansas bro rubbed that far city ran into Brandon Roy. Can you talk about his game? And is he on the what if list? Yeah, of course, Brandon Roy was tough. Played in Portland. I competed against him for a number of years. Always was a tough battle. Me and him had some some great battles, some great one on one battles. But he had everything. I can't. Oh, Joe, the boy had bounce. He could score. He could shoot the middle. He could shoot the three. He could post up. He could defend. Yeah. But if he went for those knee injuries, he had him in the markets. Oh, my God. That boy was serious, man. Had plenty of game. A whole lot of. Yeah, he one of them was man. What if. And what if J. Dub accurate, I saw you must have missed what Ocho told you to have the Miss Rabbit punch you while performing. Ocho got to explain that logic. He said what he said? He told Ocho you have to have the Miss Miss Rabbit punch while you performing. The Miss Rabbit punch. Yeah. Ocho, what? Huh? You told Ocho you need to have the Rabbit punch. Oh, Joe, remember I told you what. But you know when she what we talked about that on the show the other day, you were like, no, I ain't I ain't doing that. Oh, what? What? What? What? What about it? Don't get punched. You got to tell it. Don't get punched right in the back of the head. For what? You know when she, you know, your groceries. No, no, no. I know. No. Come on, Joe. Hey, I'm cool. So you ain't you ain't living Joe. Hey, look, look, everywhere I done been, I had somebody I did the event with the house today. A dude stopped me. A dude stopped me talking about that. Tell my man, OK, Ocho crazy, man. I said, yeah, they are crazy. I know some girl would. Hey, don't get Ocho. If Ocho ain't no. Oh, Ocho, Ocho be trying to pull me into a shenanigans. Man. Man, I don't believe that. Lord, I got time. That's Ocho. Sheldon po 51 25 Netflix airs the jail blazes documentary this week. I saw what do you remember from competing against them in the in the 2000 Portland teams? Oh, man. They were very explosive. My rookie year when I played against the Portland team, Scottie Pippen was on the team. I took Scottie Pippen from Arkansas. It's like my first time really getting a chance to see him in person to even meet him in person. So I thought that was pretty cool. But outside of that, you know, they were a hell of a team, bro, who really had a great chance to at least get to the finals to the unfortunate collapse that they had, you know, in that was a game seven. What was that, the 2000 finals? I'm 2000 Western finals or the 2000? Oh, yeah. When they when they when they choked against Shack, they had that lead. Yeah, I think that was 2000. Yeah, 2000. Yeah. Mm hmm. Raha, hey, I think you were at a point where LBJ won't get the love he deserves until five, ten years after he retired. People don't know what they're watching. They don't. Yeah, I don't I'm not so sure they don't know. I don't know if they're properly appreciated, because a lot of times we don't a proper properly appreciate greatness when we see it. It's not until it's retired. Yeah, he long gone before everybody really appreciate be like, man, man, we really took do for granted. Yeah. Yeah. And that happens. I mean, when you like you watching, do you did you really appreciate Michael Phelps when he won eight gold medals? Do you really appreciate you saying when he's running those times, you like you just like, oh, hey, somebody else go come to know. Or Serena. You just take it for granted. Yeah. It's not until they like, damn, man, Serena really dominated. Tiger Woods really dominated. These guys winning. I mean, Tiger Woods winning eight, nine, ten tournaments in a year. It's like, now we got a week of a win every other week. Tiger showed up. Tiger winning. Yeah. Yeah, that's how greatness is, bro. That's how greatness is. It's a savage. OK, OK, see fan. What's our chance looking running it back, fellas? We looking good. You looking damn good. Got a great great great chance for great opportunity. Damn good. Very guys is hungry, too. And everybody healthy, too. Yep. Got a great trail digger. Hey, you hit that love train for the chance this is Sunday. He ran so to me. Man, I mean, I was they were telling the story because I love that song. And he was telling the story. I was like, damn, two members, same group. Seeing the same woman. Man, what? They love about L.T.D. No, that's a compunction. Oh, compunction. Compunction. Oh, that's what L.T.D. With Jeffrey Osborne, Jeffrey Osborne, the lead singer, then he went so low on his own. Um. Happens sometimes, but you don't know what you don't know. Well, listen, man, boy, how they know they were seeing the same woman? No. Cos. She kept that thing on the hush. And he was like, damn, he was right there. You know, he was talking about it. You know, hey, man, I met this bad girl, man. Hey, Joe, yeah. Yeah. Man, what you look like? Man, she bought. Love train. Probably about five, eight, five, nine. Life's getting got her natural hair. I mean, body to die for. What's the name? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What you mean? Yeah. How long you been talking to her? Uh-oh. You. Hey, you know, hey, you know, this dog after you. How long you been talking to her? Yeah. Yeah, you know, it's something. Yeah. But hey, man, be straight, man. You know something about that girl. Don't leave her. Don't let your boy be out there, man. Joe, Joe, Joe, you know, hey, you know, the rookies coming like, we been there. I've been there. I was there since 90. So I kind of know. I don't know everybody, but I kind of know. Yeah. Hey, Shaw, what's up, man? What's up with that girl? Yeah, she used to, you know, talk to such and such. But I think she's cool, but, you know, she used to talk to X, Y, and Z, but he no longer here. Yeah. Well, I ain't been, I ain't been to let you be out there just blind. Yeah. But, you know, sometimes, hey. They want what they want. So what you gonna do? All I can do is just give you the information on Joe. That's it. You do what you want to do with it. Hey, sometimes that who I have in that chokehold. What they ain't stood nothing. They want? Yeah. It's been that way. Wars have been started. Man. I mean, why did, why did Samson tell the Lolliwara strength lie? David, why do that? Adam, Adam took a bite of that apple. He told, hey, he, he, he, he, he all these trees, he wherever you want to, or he started talking to it. There you go. Yeah. For that you're gonna like my gruff took a big bite out of the crime. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, cold game, boy. It is Sir Alexander up. Y'all gonna ask someone to talk baseball. Like CC Barnes or maybe Jeter. Nah, man. They're, they're honestly a Sir Alexander. There's not a really enough interest. From our people in our chat to justify it. Triple X. I'm Saturday. Oh, Joe picked the Lakers man. Lakers about to get swept. They know he's janky. Hey, the funny thing about it is when you're talking to a guy, you're talking to a guy that's like, Hey, the funny thing about it is when it comes to teams, I pick, I don't lose. Y'all see y'all let y'all laugh at my bracket for March madness. Now, I still came out better than y'all to you and win. You ain't win, man. I still came out better than y'all to long as I beat y'all. That's all I care about. Okay. I tell you what, next year we're going to pick and we're going to put some money on the line. Oh, that's what I'm talking about. See here, now I got to lock in now. I got to lock in. That's what we're going to do. Yeah. Each of us put a thousand dollars up. There we go. Wait, how much? A thousand. Yeah. That's what I thought. Now, pick mascot again. That does King Iso. Did your son finally learn how to make those sandwiches? Still laughing at that story, man. Yeah, he learned how to make those sandwiches. You go hungry enough boy. Whatever in there you find, you find a way to make something. Yeah. Sam the grand 89 I saw a cowboy fan. So it's only natural that he bring delusion into his basketball fandom. All right now. Yeah. Yeah. With them. About the Hawks. No, chill, chill, chill. I'm just saying. What I got. Who you got? Oh, Joe and I so in the Oklahoma drill also got the oh, Joe got the ball. Mama come a clean as rat. I'm going to clean him up. Joe, you crazy. Joe, you ain't got enough bricks in your pocket. What? You hit me. But hey, Joe, you see the you see the animals I had to deal with man doing my career. Joe, I would have ran through you. Joe, you ain't going through no contact. Oh, Joe, you trying to get around somebody you trying to go Joe, I'm running through people. Joe, Joe say he ain't even never, they never did Oklahoma drill. I want you to. Oh, Joe, Joe, I'm going right through you. Joe, you know that. No contact. Hey, matter of fact, I'm going to show you. I'm going to show you when I get the ball when we play one on one, I'm going in the post. All right. All right. Post and I'm going to back you down like, like Shaq back when you were the Lakers. What we talking about, man? I got some, I got some, you can't measure Joe. What's at your heart? You can't measure that Joe. Right. Burn fellas. I turned the big two five on Saturday and I'm drawing a blank on plans. What did y'all get into y'all 25th straight out 501 love? I'm going to be on the right side. So, I'm the wrong one to ask. What am I every birthday? What we give our 25th birthday? Yeah, man, you're not alone with that. Hold on. Hold on. You know, my 25th birthday, I had a party back home and look rockin Jagged is came perform. Told that thing. So my told that thing down. You hear me? Oh, told that thing down. So who you getting? Who you getting? Who you getting to perform at 45? Hey Joe, hey, how you boys Joe? You know, I got a little ban now. No, no, no, I'm cool on you. I got a little Mariachi ban. I don't know. That's a good question. That's a good question. That's a good question. I'm not. Right now, I'll buy that cool on you. Yeah. Damn, Joe, support Black Business, man. Yeah, I do, bro. I do. Babarrae, oh, Joe. You and I so play 1v1. You gotta go at the knee. If I so can't finish the game, that means you win, right? Yeah. And you gonna cheap shot me? Nah, that was his idea. I don't want to cheap shot you. You wanted to finish. You wanted to stay. So you want to be in fast square. I want him there. I want him to get back on the show and say, you know what? Oh, Joe, I underestimated you. I underestimated everything. I take back everything I said about you. You the real deal. In fact, he probably gonna say, you know what? You should have hooped. See, the thing is, when I kick your butt, I don't really get no strikes for that because I'm supposed to do that. You feel me? Hey, Joe, you get strikes because I'm talking trash. I mean, you're grill, Joe. I'm telling you, you gotta do nothing. The chat already know that I'm gonna dismount to you. They already know. Pat, the chat is basically off your, what they see you do in the NBA. Now this thing, they do say NBA rules, deep jailhouse rules, Joe. And based off how they done seen you hoop before, that's what they going out for. You think, yeah, it ain't just me. Just word by the elbow, Joe. Just word by the elbow, Joe. That's all I got to say. Matter of fact, you know what? I don't want to do too much tongue wrestling. Yes, you know what it is. Hey, Joe, I saw B's on Friday. And he say he gonna let you heal up, but he looking for that. Oh, yeah, he want the smoke. He want his ass. Oh, yeah, the nigga right. He can get it. He can get it to here. Ain't nobody except, huh? Shit. Rocky Handley. Today is my 49th birthday. The biggest fan. Rocky, I appreciate that man. Happy birthday, bro. 49. Man. One more year around the sun. Five zero. Kevin Boat Night. What's up, Boat Joe? No, it's a happy birthday. Oh, okay. Oh, your 12 and 214 was achieved. Was a God tier. What was your first thought when the clock reached zero? Well, we went over time in that game. I didn't know I had the record. I know I had some yards, but I didn't know I had the record until, uh, I think it was Jim Sacramento. I think Jim Sacramento came after the game and told me you said it in a failed record. I say for what? Say the most receiving yards in the game by tight end. I had no idea. I didn't know what the record was. How many was it? How many yards was it? I had 214. I wrote the record was a 212. Yeah. Yeah. And I have, I had 31 yards at the half. Oh, Joe had 183, 183 and two touchdowns in the second half. I'm saying the second half. What was the difference? They got me. But we were down and we were down and, uh, you had to throw that. We have, we had to throw and, uh, they were playing. You had, you had that look on you. You getting out, getting up through that. First play out the second half go 82 on them. Hmm. I'm gonna put them down. Oh yeah. But I probably should have had, I probably should have had 250. DJ, my 21 up. How good was Albany State back in your day? I'm from Camilla, Georgia where Grover Stewart, the DT on the coast from, uh, it's from ISO and still love y'all. Albany was good, but we cooked them. I lost, hello. I lost the Albany State once. I lost the Fort Valley once. I ain't never lost the Clark. Lost the Morehouse once, but Albany was good. Albany had a nice squad. But when it ain't with number two coming down, you already know. The Deuce, the Deuce is loose. What? Why we did a number on a, a, I lost the Fort Valley my first year, but that's when they had Greg Lord and Eddie Anderson. They call the defense blue there. Oh, they were, they were loaded. But after that, no more. No more. No more. Oh, Joe, when I, they beat us in our place my freshman year, then I go back to them, hit them for eight for one 22. Then they come back to us my junior year. I hit them for seven for one 97. Yeah. Get it like that. Oh yeah. Cookin. Even for that. Just mixing stuff in the pot. Hey there. 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Yes. I'm like, he got to bring, he just got to bring that attitude, that confidence. He got to bring it with him when he played with the Lakers, bro. Yep. That's all they got to do. Uh, Richie shoots all. If you guys can make a starting lineup with the players that surprised you the most this season, what would it be? Uh, we might have to get a close up to that old show for that 59 hundred. Love the show. Nightcap for life. Ooh, most surprising. Uh, we talking basketball? I'm thinking basketball. Yes. Most surprising. Uh, I mean, the kid Alexander Walker here for the Hawks. For sure. He he on there. Yeah, he probably he's number one on my list. I'm surprised. I did not see Jaylen Brown average in 28. No, who had that on the bingo card? I thought he would put up some good numbers on. I just didn't think they were resulting the winner. Yes. I ain't gonna lie. I ain't I didn't really see that because they had lost so much. I was like, I think JB, he could potentially probably lead the league in scoring, but I just didn't know they would be number two in the East still. I ain't know that. Okay. Canipple. I did not see him playing like this in the rookie season. Me neither. Uh, uh, that Keontay George kid from Utah. Yeah. From Bailey. He went to Baylor. He nice. He be getting money out there. Yeah. Yeah. Who was like that? I thought Cooper flag would be good, but I didn't think he'd be this good this early. Now he picked it up. He started off a little slow, but he was like, yeah, I'm gonna go. Yeah. I mean, back to back 40 pieces. Yeah. That's impressive. That's impressive. Daniel Wells, Ocho, the only man on earth who can get away with turning money old into a bent emergency fund. Come on, get your money. You write about that, man. That takes a special skill for Ocho because he found a way to get out of it and a. And it's here if you need it. I need it. Subscribe to the nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys for your support. Thank you for your continued support because you make this happen. You make it worthwhile. So thank you. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shea by La Portier, head over to La Portier cognac.com to order you a bottle. It is a premium VSOP. Best tasting, smoothest VSOP on the market. It is a VSOP, but it drinks like an S O. XO, excuse me. An XO. So I'm telling you. You know, Joe, we could know what we're gonna have that. We'll have that, uh, that shape floored at the party. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Man. That thing will be lit. Super. Hey, what y'all want me to wear? Joe, we talk about. I got you. I got you. Hey, want to thank Colton Hood, University of Tennessee, uh, cornerback, uh, early round projection, wish him the best. He's a Georgia boy. So stay healthy. Congratulations, man. And we wish nothing but the best for you. Playoffs are about to start happening. The, uh, the play in tournament starts on Tuesday and Wednesday. Make sure you tune in for nightcap for the latest on what happens in those. Y'all know who I am. I'm up. He's Ocho. He's ISO. We're off now, but we're back tomorrow night. Can't be off too long. Thank you guys for joining. We greatly appreciate it. He's out. What'd you say? No. Okay. We're off tomorrow night, but we're on Tuesday night. My bad. Off tomorrow on Tuesday.