Victor Davis Hanson: Iran Can’t Be Trusted, and Trump Turns the Tables on Kristen Welker

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And if you can see Victor's noggin right now, it's covered by a Daily Signal hat. And he's got two shows on. One is this show, Victor Davis Hansen in his own words. And then also four times a week, Victor Davis Hansen in a few words. Victor's got a website, The Blade of Perseus. VictorHansen.com is the address you should be subscribing, especially if you're a fan. You should be given to someone as a dad. You can be to your dad as a Father's Day gift, $65 a year. You just want to check it out for a month or two. Well, it's $6.50 a month if you want to go that route. We are talking on Sunday, June 7th, 2026. This particular episode will be up on Thursday, June 11th. We've already recorded one show earlier today. And while we were recording, Donald Trump went off on his NBC, Mike Smith, the press interview with Kristen Welker. We'll get Victor's take on that. I'm sure he's seen the clips. We have Scott Pelley making his Crybaby first interview since he was given the boot from 60 Minutes. Victor's got a lot of thoughts he wants to share on Iran. Also Scott Besant, the Treasury Secretary is promoting an idea to use some of Iran's money, frozen assets to apply to the Gulf. States are Gulf allies who've been attacked by Iran. Get Victor's thoughts on that new issue of Strategica, which also has some Iran stuff in it. And I don't know if we can have some time, Victor. We want to get into this H1 visa controversy slash scandal that Kayleigh McEnany at Fox News has been reporting on. So lots to get your take on. And we'll do all that when we come back from these initial important messages. America is going through a higher education transformation where students are realizing that what they want and need is a place that doesn't stifle their intellectual freedom. Standing out among the few graduate programs that value viewpoint diversity is Pepperdine's University School of Public Policy, where I've taught the last two years. 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So I was suggesting that he could give an ultimatum saying that you have to surrender your nuclear enrichment, you have to surrender your missile arsenal, you have to stop the subsidies to Houthi's Hamas and Hezbollah, and you have to help us with the straight Hormuz and give them about a week to do it. And then go back kinetically and make it impossible for them to wage war for the next 10 years. And that can be defined a lot of ways. However, I wasn't necessarily critical of Trump because I can see and I saw what his strategy is, and it may work. His strategy is I'm going to quote unquote negotiate because I don't want to hurt the resistance, but I'm not really negotiating in the traditional sense. They are in bad faith by trying to prolong it. But I am in the driver's seat because they're losing four to $500 million a day in economic output, and their oil is sanctioned. And the people we're starting to get indications are rising up, or they're at least much more restive than they were. So what's happening is we don't have any accurate information because this is the first war, it's entirely by war. I went back and looked at the Serbian war, where we did not have troops on the ground. And people were saying that Clinton had lost that war. And we had all of the cycle dramas between the Russians and us. Wesley Clark had sort of overreached, and the British compatriot four-star said, I'm not going to start World War III over you. And it was a mess. And then Clinton kind of went crazy, and he started bombing the bridges on the Danube, and he started to bomb the power grid, and all of a sudden, Milosevic said, quite on-cl, quite unexpectedly, after 72 days. So that was 72 days of continuous bombing, not 38. So what I'm getting at is today, in various news sources, there seems to be that 1,000 tankers have already been escorted in, and loaded up with Gulf oil, and are out, and that the Iranians are losing the ability day by day to stop that. And they're losing the ability to stop that because they have no money, and they have no spare parts, and they don't even have gasoline. The lines are getting longer. So what Trump is saying is, I'm ramping it up. I'm not just idle being played by the Iranians. I don't have to kill very many more Iranians, because the momentum is shifting. So the price of oil has gone from $110 down to $90, and it's going to go further as that news gets out, that if you want to send a tanker into the straits, the strait, and get, you know, Kuwaiti oil, or Saudi oil, or you can do it, and it's going to be fairly safe to do it, because the Iranians age day are losing the capability to stop you. That's one thing. The second thing is, Condoleezza Rice wrote a really good op-ed, and one of the things she pointed out, and she was, I think, very upbeat, but empirical, she pointed out under no circumstances should we do what the Obama people did, and stop the sanctions, and release the frozen assets. That's what Iran used to violate the spirit and the principle of the first Iran deal by buying themselves a missile fleet and a missile assembly of capability to protect all of their nuclear sites. So what Besan is reportedly doing, Jack, is, and I think you and I discussed it, he's going to release the $26 billion to countries in the Gulf, and I imagine Israel that have multi-billion-dollar damage, and I think they've suffered something like $10 or $12 billion, and we've suffered on our bases and stuff. So that is going to really hurt the Iranians, because they are desperate for cash. And there are reports this weekend, as we speak, that high school students are taking to the street in Iran, there's more disruptions, and the price of oil is predicted to go down, especially as they're really ramping up Venezuelan production, Russia's ramping it up, we are ramping it up, and the Saudis are getting, and the UAE is getting more oil out in their alternative systems and rapidly trying to plan to build a pipeline so that Iran would never be able to do this again by hijacking the streets. So it looks pretty upbeat. So I think what Trump is doing, he is betting in a very dangerous game, but still he believes that they're going to crack fairly soon, and that crack will be typified by crash and oil prices, and that will save him in the midterm. I don't know if that's going to be accurate or not, but that's the strategy that he has. I would like to accelerate the process a little bit a lot by hitting the targets that we have not hit yet, but this administration would argue, well, wait a minute, we feel that the people have temporarily ceased because they don't want to see their infrastructure that they're going to inherit damaged, and if we do that, we might damage them. So it would be if it is true that the Israelis and the Americans are now reconsidering arming the Kurds, they have active operatives inside Iran, the Iranian opposition is getting bolder, the country is falling apart literally, and the military hasn't paid their Islamic Republican Guard Corps operatives in a long time, and they don't have the ability or the financial wherewithal to close that straight much longer, if at all. So I think it's a pretty obsessive, it's just that I wish we had sanctioned them and frozen assets and all that much earlier, I think we'd be ahead of the curve, but we'll see. Well, there are others with opinions on where we're at now, Victor. A few weeks ago, maybe within the last 10 days, Strategica, which is the online journal that you oversee for Hoover Foundation's institution, published a series of articles on the state of war with Iran right now, and the lead essay is by Michael Durand, Seven Lessons Learned of the Iran War. And would you, I'm not asking you, Victor, to give us the seven lessons learned, but what is the thrust, first of all, would you tell us who Michael Durand is, and then second, what's the thrust of the important lessons of the seven? Michael Durand is a brilliant student of the Middle East. He was a Princeton professor, he was a student at Bernard Lewis, and academia being what academia is, usually people conform to the orthodoxy, which is a propelist, and he would not. And now he's an independent, I think he's associated and affiliated with the Hudson Institute, am I wrong there? I think he is. But he's a brilliant scholar, and when he writes about the Middle East, it's usually very empirical, and what he is saying is that warfare is much different, and there's going to be lessons that we learn from it. Of course, drones and cheap missiles are one of the most important lessons, and that we've got to adapt accordingly. Ukraine makes a million a year, we're ramping up, we're only going to make 300,000, we should be making five and six million a year, if we're going to prepare for a Chinese challenge to the strait or further violence in the Middle East. He's also reminded us that you can't negotiate with the Iranian, you can negotiate with them, but you cannot negotiate with them on the expectation they're going to honor any of these things. He's very critical. The Obama deal has been unfairly represented by Kerry and Ben Rhodes, is it, oh, you're going to end up with a worse deal, but as Durand has said here in other words, that deal did no damage, it empowered Iran with the sanctions we leave, and we have done an enormous damage and are not giving them any money. In fact, we're taking money away from them. It's just a cautionary tale, it's not critical, it just suggests that if we're going to negotiate, we've got to have a stronger plan to force them to collapse. I think we do, I think part of the problem is the administration is not, and for real reasons, is not telling us exactly, maybe it doesn't know how dire the Iranian economy is, and the government is short of money. Now, it seems to be negotiating, Jack, mostly for sanctions and embargoed fund relief, it wants the money, the $26 billion. Gutter's offered to give them $6 billion loan, as it always does to try to buy them off. Gutter hasn't really been hit like Kuwait. I don't know why they seem to be targeting Kuwait the most, because I have a feeling that's, and I think others may have pointed out, it has the highest Shia minority, it's about 30 or 40 percent Shia, and it feels that if it can embarrass that government, maybe there'll be Shia on rest. I doubt that's going to happen, because no one is going to attach their cause to a losing cause, and the losing cause right now is Iran. The other thing, politically, it's going to be very hard. I wish that people who said that the Iran war was lost on the right, Steve Bannon or Tucker or Megan, would look at it again, and just be empirical, not get into Israel, just look at it, and try to see what information tells us what is the status of Iran versus what is the cost of benefit to us and the world at large. I think there will be developments in the next week or two that are much more optimistic than we've seen, realistic as the proper word. Then finally, our friend Bing West, who has a wonderful book coming out, I blurted about the fifth war. He was a big supporter of the idea that Iran had gotten away with murder for 50 years, and he was delighted that they finally had to face the music. He is disappointed, however, that after 38 days, he feels that they were teetering on the brink of collapse, and we pulled back. In his argument and the strategica and in his book that is simultaneous with the article that's come out, is that the problem isn't just that we pulled back and gave them a life raft, that's a mixed metaphor, we gave them a second chance, but our enemies will glean from that, that they get a second chance. Putin, North Korea, China will think that if the United States is indomitable, they'll always, I don't know, stop or pause because of domestic criticism from the left, and that's not good, so we need to finish the job and make it impossible. He concedes that they might not be able to make war for 10 years, but that's not enough because eventually, their oil will be back on the market, China will buy it and supply them with sophisticated weapons, and they'll use that money and their recovery to make a bomb, and they will use it. That's what he's worried about. What is the wounding an animal and not killing it all? What is the fifth war? What was the fourth war? Do you know? As I remember from his book was World War I, World War II, the Cold War, and then the wars of insurgency and the 9-11 after wars, and the fifth one, he's worried about countries that are ill-liberal with nuclear weapons. And so I think he thinks that- He could be right unless the people rise up- He's a very smart guy. ... and take over the regime or get rid of the regime and return around to- Bing West is a very unusual person because he's not only a brilliant writer, but he's a highly decorated combat marine veteran. And it's not just that. In his 60s, 50s, 60s, he went to all of the combat. He got cholera in Afghanistan. He's a very bright- He's been on the front lines, yeah. Yes, he's been on the front lines and he's been with Marines. And I don't know how he's been able to survive. He's been in the most. I mean, I was only in Iraq for about a week and then one time only for three or four days, the first time, and it was already getting shot at and stuff. And he did that regularly and survive. But he did get very ill in Afghanistan from something he ate. And he had to be, I think, airlifted out with- I don't want to go into the particulars because I'm not that familiar with him, but- and he survived is what I'm trying to- he's very rugged, tough guy. Oh, he is. And he has a wonderful son, Owen West. I remember meeting Owen and I didn't know who he was. And he's- It's some national review event and I said to him, you know, you should talk to this guy, Bing West. He said, yeah, that's my father. Yeah, I think he's very independent. He hasn't relied on his father's fame, but he's very close to his father. And he's been one of the rarer voices in the wilderness talking, calling for, you know, along with Bing, more rather than less, few, and they don't have to be perfect to be good. In other words, he's saying we've got to go back to the World War II model. Where we don't try to just, you know, make the perfect bomber, we just turn out a multitude of B-24s and B-17s. Or we produce 12,000 Thunderbolts and don't worry if it's not the best plane, although I think in some ways it was. And that applies in the current. We don't need hypersonic missiles that have all this expense. We need drones and we need drone defenses that don't require, you know, $6 million missiles or $1 million missiles to knock down at 30. So we need rapid firing machine guns or computer guided small little rockets. And I think he's been very influential with this Defense Department. He's doing wonderful work. Before we take a break, or before I have to read, have to read. We have advertisers and I'm going to read the ad. But before we do that, would you also give us your updated thoughts on what's happening with Russia and Ukraine? Well, Ukraine has actually taken back about 100 square miles. And they're doing that because they're simply outproducing the Russians in drones and they're making better drones and they have sophisticated and affordable anti-drone defenses. So what's happening, and I know people say, well, Victor, you're just not, you're too kind to Trump. But Trump, remember when he came into office the first time he allowed offensive weapons for Ukraine. The thing with Trump is he screams and yells about Zelensky and Zelensky did suspend habeas corpus. He has canceled elections. He is a de facto wartime dictator. And Trump has faulted him for that. And he's faulted him for always wanting more and more. But that's Trump. That under the table quietly, he has given Ukraine a blank check to hit targets in Russia that Biden never did. And they are, they now can do it with very sophisticated longer-range drones. And they are taking them, they hit St. Petersburg the other day, a refinery in St. Petersburg of all places. That's the biggest tourist hub in Russia. And the Russian economy is in shambles. And the Ukrainians are getting confident that, I mean, they are, they have the largest standing army in continental Europe now, and it's the best armed and it's the most battle-hardened. And it's really given the Europeans a lot of confidence. I don't know if they can win the war, but it can make it very difficult for Putin to win after, you know, we're getting up to four and a half years. Yeah, we're going to, we're in our fifth year, we're four and a half years pretty soon. And Putin's military is shot, it's been humiliated, and the economy, the Russian economy is on life support, and all that's saving it is oil. And when the price of oil crashes, it will be a disaster for Putin, and it will crash pretty soon. Well, Victor, to our listeners and viewers, if you've studied enough history, you've start to see a pattern, nations don't lose their way overnight. They drift through debt and division until one day you realize the foundations you thought were permanent, were never permanent at all. Today, America is spending at levels once reserved for wartime. We've normalized deficits that would have stunned earlier generations, and policymakers now debate whether the only path forward is more intervention, more printing, more distortion. But here's the historical truth. Every society that pushed its currency beyond discipline eventually paid a price. 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But the problem is always that this type of tumor, which has got a prefix, mukeness, mukeness adenoma carcinoma, it's kind of like a jellyfish. It sheds, it creates muken and that blocks the expression of DNA-released cancer cells and they do get released. You just, they don't show up as much. So even though those were two negatives, and which was really unusual for the size of the tumor, there had been, on the oncology, they're very circumspect and they said, well, it's, of course, it's good 56 times less chance of recurrence from a negative signatory test than a positive. But this tumor has two reservations. One, it takes a long time to show up on a signatory because of the muken camouflage and it tends to be more common in the brain and pancreas. So there's always the outside chance that tumors started there and express themselves more predominantly in the lung and therefore we need a scan of the brain and your entire neck to toes CT of that MRI with contrast of the brain. And then remember that you have something called the brain barrier. So it's hard for the test to pick up DNA from the lung cancer if it got into your brain. And by the way, you had a cyst of nine millimeters in the brain and we want to make sure that's not connected. So that was kind of tense because I hadn't had anything since the operation. So I just got it back last week and everybody my age, I have, you know, just normal cysts, kidney stones, cysts in the liver. But what came up was there was no identifiable cancer in the lungs or the pancreas or anywhere with the reservation, they call it a plural, it's a pulmonary effusion, plural infusion. It just means that there's fluid in your lung chamber. And that, you know, can be dangerous, but if it's big, but it's small and I've had it since the day of the operation. And it just, in passing, they just said that fluid has to come out and it's not unusual even at four and a half months for it to be there. It just seems that, and that, just walk more, do breathing exercises and eventually it should go away. And if it doesn't, you'll have to have it drained. But good news. So that's good news. Yeah, I was really, so then I only have to have these scans every six months and the signetera every four months so that every three months, I'm either having a blood biopsy or a scan to see for reoccurrence. So the reason they're doing that is that this particular mutation, the STX, I think it's 11 and the CRAS 12G are A untreatable. They don't react to either immunotherapy or chemo and B, they have a tendency to come back more than other adenoma, carcinomas mutations. So like 40%. But with these scans and I'm now five months out and the blood biopsies and no lymph nodes or vascular or, you know, pearl contamination, there's a good chance that maybe it's accurate and it won't come back for a while. Well, that's lettuce. Or at all, I hope. Well, prayers have been answered and can keep praying for us. My cough is from scarring of the lung from the damage of having a year or two of the ground glass opacity that turned cancerous and also the trauma from removing the entire lower right lobe, which is pretty big. And then from this fluid in my lung a little bit, but it's getting better. I don't cough as much. And I'm a little hoarse today, but I haven't been as hoarse as usual. And on the plus side, I'm very restless because I'm fatigued and I want to get up to the Sierras, but at 7,000 feet, it's kind of problematic still. Well, when you get there, you won't need any flashlight because after all these tests, Victor, you're glowing the dark. Yes, I'm glowing. Yeah, so. Pet, CT, X-ray. Okay. Well, let's, I'm going to bring up one topic, then we're going to take a break, then we're going to get into a bunch. I'll call them TV topics. There's one involves Donald Trump and today, him going to war with Kristen Welker on Namita Press. We have Bill Maher commenting on his most recent show about this America 250 concert that has seen a lot of lefty musicians pull out and his reaction to that. And then Scott Pelley gave his first cry, Bevy, when I interviewed since he's been fired. So we'll do that after the break. But before we go there, a topic is the FBI and it's infamous investigations into practicing Catholics. So here's, I forget where I'm being this from, maybe that you're post. The FBI has fired the analyst behind the controversial memo on radical traditionalist Catholic ideology, the memo inspired by information pulled by the Southern Poverty Law Center has been withdrawn after it was drafted in 2023 under the Biden administration. This was the Richmond memo. I think there were also people in Seattle and other FBI bureaus that were participating in this. This was an attempt to show that the religious affiliation of a single law enforcement target who happened to identify himself as a radical traditional Catholic, that's what spawned it. But this fricking study was so college ish. Interest of racially or ethnically motivated violent extremists in radical traditionalist Catholic ideology almost certainly presents new mitigation opportunities. Who writes stuff like this? Well, the FBI writes stuff like this. So Victor, anyway, your thoughts and the other second thought is though, how could the FBI not know that the Southern Poverty Law Center, which they were using as the basis to launch this investigation was also bankrolling these lunatics? How could the FBI be ignorant of this? Sorry, Victor. Go ahead, Jack. You ask a question that you know the answer better than I do. They didn't want to know. They did not want to know. So they did not want to know anything about the Southern Poverty Law Center except that it was left wing and the powers it be that were in the White House, worshiped it and any FBI person who bragged that he got information from that, this reputable organization would be promoted, praised, I don't know, given good assignments. All these bureaucracies operate on the principle that wherever the power focuses, the centrality, they're going to gravitate toward that and join it no matter what. They're apolitical and that sounds good, but really they do have a politics and that just agreeing with whoever's in power with one exception, Trump, because they despise him. The weird thing I couldn't understand is the Southern Poverty Law Center now we know drummed up the charlots. That was the thing that Joe Biden, remember that quote when they asked him, Joe, why are you running for president your age, Joe? Because of you know, Charlotte and now, you know, racism and KKK. Well, that was all lie, Joe. The FBI, mostly Obama holdovers were basically relying, I mean, they didn't get involved to do an investigation, as Jack pointed out with the traditional Catholics or you know, the school board members, they didn't really, they just show given the talking points from the Southern Poverty Law Center, but they were, the Southern Poverty Law Center did not tell their donors where their money was going. They were paying a Ku Klux Klan member, white supremacists, to organize the Charlottesville parade, demonstration, whatever you want to call it. They were even paying for the paraphernalia that we associate with that odious organization. And they went after traditional Catholics because traditional Catholics don't believe in liberation theory. They follow the tenants of the Catholic Church and one of them is a prohibition of abortion. And that's a mortal sin to the left. So they have to be destroyed. And the same thing with the school board parents that were objecting to trans and other issues, they have to be surveilled. And so the tragedy of all this is why they were snooping around at traditional Catholics or ignoring Charlottesville, the real story, they didn't investigate it because the Southern, as I said, Poverty Law Center basically financed the whole effort, are going after school board parents. What were they not going after? They weren't going after ballot fraud. They weren't going after, I mean, cash, they weren't going after cartel members in the United States, apparently, the 500,000 criminals that were coming in under Biden, they didn't make any real effort that we knew about. And Tifa. So that, yeah, yeah, and Tifa, they, and Tifa crosses state lines are very violent. BLM is very violent. They didn't try to infiltrate either of those groups. So they lost their reputation under Joe Biden and Barack Obama. And the irony is that they politicized these groups and then they call, whatever the left does, remember, they use that as a boomerang and then they project onto their enemies and say, you're doing exactly what we didn't do, but they did it. And that's why they project so well because they do it themselves. Once you corrupt the FBI and you use it as a political organization, you know how it's used. So it's easy for you to say, here's the Trump administration has politicized weaponized, same with lawfare. They're the past masters of it. And believe me, if Trump loses the house and God forbid, if they ever got 60 votes in the Senate, he would be tried and convicted and removed from office, I would say in about seven days, there would be no special counsel report, just like the second impeachment. There would be no cross examination, just like the second impeachment. There would be no witnesses allowed to come, just like the second impeachment. They impeached him and tried him in the Senate as a private citizen. The whole thing was about two weeks, two or three weeks. Gosh. Well, Victor, we're going to talk, get your thoughts on, continue thoughts on Donald Trump and something that transpired today, Sunday, when we're talking the seventh. And then your thoughts on Scott Pelley and Bill Maher. And if we have time and we will make time at the very end, your thoughts on this H1 visa scandal. So do all that when we come back from these important messages. If you enjoy Victor Davis Hansen, you might enjoy the Daily Signals flagship show, the Tony Kennett Cast, the same common sense perspectives you love weekdays at 7 p.m. Eastern. And unlike some of the other evening shows, we work up until showtime to bring you the latest breaking news, analysis and good old American star cast. Tom Tillis, I'm pretty sure might have been useful at one time as a doorstop. 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They don't make that type of model, but it had a Perkins diesel engine, which is a wonderful engine. And I always liked... I had a little... I just gave it away to a neighbor. I had a Ford 3000. That's a little 40 horsepower that have three cylinders. And we had... I grew up driving... Well, we had a nine, eight in and a nine in that had no overhead valves, but we did get a... We had Jubilees. They were a breakthrough Ford tractor. And then the 850 and stuff. Ford tractors were dominated the market until the 60s, I think. So we always had a Ford 4000. I had an Oliver too. That was a Italian truck that was bought out by the White Corporation. And I loved that Oliver. We called it Ollie Green. And then we had a huge... Alice Chalmers 7000. It was huge. It was too big for the vineyard. We had to get special things to get it in. It was a gas hog. And it just... It had a tendency to pop out of gear. And one time my cousin was on it and he got off the tractor and he went to urinate. And he left it neutral. But the gear shift would kind of wiggle and slip into gear and it slipped into low, low one. And it started going up to the shed. And it went all... It's because it had big treads on it. It went up the shed. And then it tilted in the air just about ready to fall back. And it stopped. But it kind of crushed the side of the shed. Is this the shed you're in right now, by the way? It's a... No, about 100 yards, 30 yards from me. People forget that tractor... Farming is the most... is the most dangerous occupation. My twin brother cut his little finger tip off, I remember. And it's very tragic. I had a wonderful airdale. And I had him trained, her trained Ellie. And I was driving once with a spray rig, 500 gallons, putting on... I tried to keep the dogs locked up when I did that. I was putting on O-Mite, I think. And all tractors have something called a PTO, a power takeoff. And it's attached to the crankshaft and it turns. And then you can put an implement on and it will turn an agitator or a pump. And the problem is it has a cover, so a plastic cover over the metal shaft so you don't hurt yourself or injury. But this dog had thick, woolly hair. And so it got out. And it was so happy to get out that it ran and saw me. And it ran alongside me. I didn't even know. I looked over and it was running and it was trying to jump up on the tractor. And its thick hair got trapped in between the plastic sleeve that protected it and it stuck. And in one second, it was like a clock... a hand on a clock, it just wound her around and threw her 20 feet in the air and broke her neck. It was horrible. It was one of the worst things that happened at farming. But I saw so many accidents at farming. We had a neighbor that had a really bad accident. And because tractors are really rear heavy, you've got to put weights on the front wheel. And some people take the weights off because it's more efficient and things. But you should be very careful when you do that because you get on any uneven ground and they'll flip back on you. Or if you're... I had a neighbor that had a big heavy tandem disc and he took some of the weights off and he came over to help our place. And the whole thing flipped. And he jumped off in time. But it was... He was on going uphill and the thing flipped back on its side because the disc weighed about a ton. And then there were no weights on the front and the tractors weigh about 6, 7,000 pounds, those vineyard tractors. But so it's... And that's besides pesticides and other... It's a very dangerous profession. That's why I think everybody... I knew a guy who was farming once. He was always bragging that he was a combat veteran. He was a very good guy. But there was a farmer who I also knew who knew him and said, there's been... He said he was in the army in Vietnam. But he said he thought farming was more dangerous in some ways because it was every day, every single day throughout... You're not just a deployment, but every single day that you're something that is quite dangerous. You're in or near harm's way. Yeah. I remember one last story. There was a disc blade and it was frozen and it was an older disc and we wanted to get the disc blade off and get a new bearing. And so my dad heated up the disc blade. But little did we know that that lubricant and that frozen bearing on the other side of the disc was getting very hot and it had enough grease in so it was like a projectile. And he got it hot and the disc blade which was about 20 inches blew off like a projectile and hit a person in the shed right in the stomach and knocked him two feet against the wall. We thought we killed him. I thought he died, but it just knocked the air out of him. It was lucky it was a big plate. It was like a gigantic steel plate, but it hit him without one single point of entry. So it was... I could just go on about it and I really admire farmers that do that and the people who are farm workers. It's very dangerous profession. Sounds like a great ultra series. Great. I hate to put it that way, but why not? Close calls with a tractor. Well, Victor, let's get into a couple of TB related topics here. First, between now and we're talking and earlier today, we recorded another show. Donald Trump doing Meet the Press with Kristen Welker and it blew up and he walked off the set mid interview and he was blasting her for two reasons. One is the claim that the 2020 elections were rigged or stolen, but also that California, which we've discussed recent show and you've discussed with Sammy, these election results coming in, we know it's fixed. I mean, it's stolen. It could be a theft in plain sight and Trump is going after her like, well, what are you, blind? He didn't say that. I think he called her a loser though. So very disruptive, but powerful event. Anyway, your thoughts on it, Victor. There's two things going on there. One is Trump's instinct. So Trump was a veteran of the 2020 election. He was the primary loser in that, literally and primarily. And he lost Arizona and Georgia and Pennsylvania and Wisconsin and Michigan by about 55,000 votes. Some of them, those states were 10,000 votes. And everybody remembers that evening, oh, about nine o'clock Pacific with Donald Trump ahead and all of those and then going to bed thinking he won and he lost. And all of those had changed their voting laws to various varying degrees, whether about registration or mail in or early under the guise of COVID. Mark Elias and his legal team funded by all these left-wing organizations had targeted all these states and had the state legislature and saying, well, you know, COVID is going to be forever and you can't go out and everybody's going to be disenfranchised. We have to mail out ballots from the disability office, the building permit office, everything. And Trump then just saw what was happening with the late ballots and he correlated it to what happened to him. And she was saying, what evidence do you have? And then he didn't even think of that warranted apply. But he could have said, because he was right, he could have said, you people in California mail out ballots to people who just come in contact with state offices and here is what is worse about you. If somebody signs his name and it's incorrect, you say if it's correct, if it's 40% correct. At least they do in Los Angeles. So if I say my name is Victor Davis Hansen and on somebody writes Victor Day, DA, that's good enough. And worse yet, here we are in 2026. It's not 1870 on the frontier and people make a mark. Think about that. So you're too, you're illiterate and you can't write your name, but you can be an informed voter. So how do you read the ballot pamphlet information that's mailed out? Well, you don't. And so under our protocols, you can just make a mark and then anybody can sign their name as a witness, anybody. And that person can sign that name again and again. So you could take a lot of ballots that were mailed and just put X, Y, Z, Curly Q, X, whatever your mark is. And then one person could just say, Victor Hansen, Victor Hansen, witness witness, and that's legitimate. And they don't ever check that. And they don't, it's not. And so what Trump was saying is your whole system is corrupt and it's always corrupt in one direction. In other words, the people who make a mark and the witnesses vote left wing and the people who mail out all the ballots are left wing and the people who harvest the ballots for the most part are left wing. And our voters tend to either send in mail ballots very early because they're very conscientious or they show up in person. And your voters either mail them in at the last moment, which they shouldn't be able to do if they arrive after election day, but they're allowed to within a certain timeframe. And they organize collectively unions to go out in canvas neighborhoods and ask them, do you have a ballot in your home? If you do, we can witness it. And that is the best interpretation. The worst interpretation is, give me your ballot that you got and we will witness and put a mark on it. It seems absurd, but it's true. And that's what Donald Trump, things like that is what he was objecting to. And he knows that it was just like under third assassination. Was it Noro, Donald? Donald was one of the infamous reporters who were asking him how he felt. And then they said, and how did you feel when they called you a pederous rapist? Remember that the African American third would be assassin who crashed the White House Correspondents' Dinner and he wrote that manifesto that Donald Trump was an Epstein pervert pedophile rapist or something. And then she repeated it. And he said, I'm none of those things. You're a horrible person. You just got that in. That was what she did. And that was the purpose. And that's why the assassin wrote that because he knew people would cover it and broadcast that lie. Well, Victor, we're going to look at another broadcaster or two. But first, as we approach our 250th, is it possible for us to turn the Titanic of Education to restore civic leadership and enjoy summer vacation with our family? Can we do that all at the same time? And Mount Tantano Media says, yes, this is the book. And I'm going to hold it up for those who are watching this podcast. This is the book for our 250th. And for all ages, it's called Finding Our Words, Words That Made America. 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That's kind of a sad, it's a very early poem that's written in hexameters. Well I will try to delve into that. So, sorry, you'll have to endure my voice, but then Victor's voice will come and get... You were mentioning this walkout. It was something I had read earlier today that came upon me when you mentioned this kind of news attack. There was a... I think it came out of the French news press that Pete Hexeth was not welcome at the Normandy festivities. That one village... Anyway, Pete Hexeth's not welcome. I thought that is so strange because he was too warlike. They said he was considered too American... He was an American supremacist. He was too warlike. He was derogatory about Europeans. So therefore, he was not welcome at any of the Normandy. And then you start to read the story very carefully and it's one council member in one Normandy town that's quoted extensively. I only say that because anybody knows when you go to France in general and you then go to Normandy, the people of Normandy tend to be much more pro-American and much more traditional. And two, they have a huge... What's the word for it? Industry of dressing up like American soldiers and they have whole fleets of American war vehicles. So when you go to these little towns, especially St. Mary, Mary, the Glees, you go there and you don't know if these guys are US troops or not. In fact, I've had people on tours when I took them there. They said, hey, Victor, I talked to the greatest guy. He's an American. I said, no, he's probably Dutch or he's a professional actor. Oh, no, no, no. He's got a 101st Screaming Eagle or 82nd Airborne and he's got an American Jeep and they're on deployment. I said, no, they're not. But the point is, the villagers themselves are emphasizing the martial aspects of that. And so for Pete, we'll hex up to assume that he was widely reviled and couldn't participate based on a French news agency released from one city council member. It's typical of the media today. I'm not saying that he's the most popular person in Europe because he's been very critical of Europe's underfunding of their military. But I love Pete. I'm a big Pete fan. He's a good egg. We spent a little time together back in the day. Okay, let's go to Scott Pelley. Here's the headline from the New York Post. Teary-eyed, no, excuse me, Daily Mail. Teary-eyed Scott Pelley goes scorched earth on Barry Weiss as he calls for her removal and describes CBS firings like his family being murdered. He says at one point he started to tear up when talking about his former colleague, executive producer Tanya Simon being fired and said, it felt like, quote, your spouse being murdered. End quote. And he, again, he said- They always do that. I mean, anybody who's in the arena and espouses political views, I was almost murdered, Jack. I was swatted. I didn't get close to being murdered. I've had people show up my house true. I was not close to being murdered. I've had people come up to me and want to engage in a very heated conversation that could have aired very easily, but I wasn't endangered. I'd been at the Reagan airport with a person, an antique that like person ran out and hit me in the back of the head. Was I endangered? I don't think so. So it's always these cycle dramas. I mean, Scott, but he's not endangered. And then it was even, you can't believe, why can't you believe that? Because what he said is completely unbelievable. He said that he goes into a meeting with the new producer, then he insults him. And instead of having a question and answer, he dominates the conversation of the CBS 60 minutes team and says to the person that you are unqualified. You are unqualified. And the person was trying to explain that CBS is losing money and has been losing money a long time and losing market share and even 60 minutes that's still somewhat popular, loses money. They all lose money. They're all overpaid if you consider market value. And then he started attacking very wise. He's completely unqualified. She wants to destroy us and he just attacks. And then he says, after doing all that, I had no idea they were going to fire me. Oh my gosh. Is he really either, there's one of three explanations. He went in there to deliberately insult his new employer and CBS's ultimate employer with the idea that he would be a wounded fawn and get fired. And then maybe go to MSNBB, kind of a Dan Rather figure wounded fawn or he's stupid and he thinks you can insult your employer or he thought he could insult his employer and he's even stupider and could convince him that Scott Pelley knew exactly what he should be doing and he could tutor him. I've had a lot of employers and I don't ever recall. I had some really tough people in graduate school that didn't like me because I don't know why, but I think they thought I was a bumpkin. But I can remember going into a person who had my future in his hands and him telling me, you're racing through these exams like they're hurdles. I said they are hurdles. And he said, is your goal to be the quickest ever to finish the PhD program in classics? I said yes. No matter what you learn. I said, I can't pass the exams. Then I didn't learn them, but I passed them all. I passed my Greek and Latin exam. I passed my Greek literature, Latin literature, Greek history, Roman history. I've done my 12 seminars. I passed my Greek and Latin composition exams. I passed my three PhD exams. And he said yes, but you're not a rounded intellectual. You can read French and German, but you don't speak them. Good intellectual can. I said, I didn't see that in the handbook. Reading knowledge required. I don't think I'm going to go to Germany and give up. You never know. You never know. You might be invited to go to Paris. How would you present your paper? I said, I'd read it in English. The point I'm making is that I was defiant, but then he said, here's what you're going to do for your thesis. You're going to take your thesis and we're not going to discuss it. You're going to give me, how many chapters is it? I said it's about 80,000 words. You're going to give me eight chapters and you're going to put it in my box and I'm going to correct it. I'm going to hand it back in two weeks and you're going to make every change. We're not going to discuss it. We're not going to talk again. We will go out on your oral exams and I will take you out to dinner and we will have a pleasant discussion and then you're through. You will reach your goal of getting a PhD in a little over four years and you'll be very happy and we can send you on your way back to your farm. I said, okay. Wow. That attitude. Well, the worst thing about, I'm not mentioning names is I was flat broke and I was doing landscaping for the professors to make money. I had an old ranchero and a guy who was very poor from Cleveland, wonderful guy, Jeff Sellers and I, we would go tear up cement patio, all the stuff the gardeners wouldn't do. Take trash out, dig ditches. We did all of that. We made $1.25 an hour, which was a lot of money then on our weekends and they were really angry that professors that were hiring us for cheap labor were mad that we weren't studying that day for our exams on weekends. So anyway, the guy who was telling me was the tightest person in the world, he would say to me, there are some orange, mandarin orange trees on campus. They're decorative and they had fruit and he goes, I want you to go after work and pick them all and bring them by my house. Or he said, you have that pickup of yours, don't you? I said, this ranchero, it doesn't have, it can only be tall. He goes, there's a office building on campus and they have solid oak bookcases and they're going to completely refit it and they told me I could have them. So I want you to go over there and I said, I can't drive through the quad. And he said, oh, there's a way, get your friend to lift the crossarm up, go in there, here's the key, I want both those bookcases. So I put these two things at eight o'clock at night, tied down to my ranchero and a campus policeman says, you are in a restricted area in the quad, you're moving things out of a classroom, what am I supposed to think? And I had my Stanford ID and I explained it and he said, that is such a preposterous story that it has to be true. And he let me go. Did he know the chief? Yes, he did know him. I gave him, well, I don't know if he knew him, but I gave him the professor's name and rank and title and he said, this is so preposterous, he'd ask you to do this, but it has to be true. And then he said something like, if I were you, I'd get a new director. But anyway, my point in this is, unlike Scott Pelley, I didn't insult him. I said, yes, I will do that. Yes, I will do that. I promise it will be there the first of the week. And you know what the comments were? I thought, I'm not kidding you, the comments were on time, adequate. See me sometime, but no comments. And the only reason it was a book, there was a very famous Italian scholar who just happened to be a visiting professor when I was farming. And he called me up a year later and he said, I'm Emilio Gabba from the University of Pisa. And I was nosing around the dissertations and I read this dissertation. Well, it's brilliant. I love it. Can we publish it in Italy? And I thought, what? And I was on a tractor when my wife came and told me she'd talked to him and I came back and called him back in Italy. And that's the only reason. I'm so happy to learn that you're beholden to an Italian Victor. That just warms the conflict. He was a great historian too. He was a very famous historian. He was very kind to me. And you know what? The point is, when I had these altercations or disagreements, because I was always on the receiving end with my director. I never talked back to him in a rude manner. And I always tried to, I would come home once in a while. I was 22, 23, come back and work on the farm on weekends or Christmas. And my mother would all, I'd say, I'm having kind of a problem. And he said, you treat him with respect. It's not fair, but you treat him with respect. I always did. I never mouthed off to him. And she always would say, look for the good thing. I said, well, he's a beautiful writer, mom. I read his articles. They're beautifully composed. He was. And he's very smart. And she said, surely you can learn something from him. And I tried to. And when they asked when he passed away, there was not a very large contingent at his funeral. But they asked former students, and I wrote a very nice thing about him. Because I did learn a lot from him. But we just didn't, our personalities were too different. I want to close the show, Victor, by getting your thoughts on this H1, HB1 visa. But just to wrap up on Pelly, I'd never watched 60 Minutes, maybe. I haven't in years. I used to watch it when the old guys were there. But Mike Wallace, you know, I'm always safe. They were old time liberals. They were biased, but they were professional. Well, this is the interesting thing to me about Pelly and his accusations of injection of bias into the new CBS, the new 60 Minutes. So he oversold. The one thing where I crossed paths with him was my coverage. I didn't write much for National Review, but I wrote a lot about this Chevron case. I remember that case. Don Ziggler. And it became known as the crime of the century that Don Ziggler, this leftist, was trying to turn Chevron into an ATM machine. And one of his great, Don Ziggler, early on in this shakedown process, one of his great allies was Scott Pelly and 60 Minutes, who took his propaganda and made it national news and had to be rebutted and was rebutted. But of course, Scott Pelly in 60 Minutes never said, yeah, we missed the story there. Or we actually twisted the story, which is what happened. So to find him talking about the injection of ideology into news is a stunning. Yeah. In 60 Minutes, they always criticize Operation Veritas. Remember the idea of an ambush? Everybody on the left, all of that, all of that technique of going incognito or taping somebody or approaching them on the street and putting, that all came from 60 Minutes. They created that and everybody loved it. They loved to see a corporate CEO or some big farmer talking to someone they thought liked them and then have their words edited. And they edited and Trump won. They edited the Camilla Harris interview and they edited Trump's. They edit. Nobody in their right mind on the conservative side. I mean, they're the kind of the televised versions of the New York Times. And somebody from New York Times wrote me the other day and said, would you give me a comment? You can't give them a comment because that comment will be weaponized and editorialized and edited to make you look like a fool. And the same thing about 60 Minutes. You can't go on those types of shows. Remember Vanity Fair with you and me about Sarah Palin? Yes. Crazy stuff. Yeah. And I got killed by the New Yorker. I think I mentioned a guy named Choknik. He called me and said, I love your stuff. I went to dinner with you with Christopher. I said, I don't have any memory of you being there. Oh, yes, I was there. And, oh, we're going to do an interview because your book on Trump, it's kind of a populist. I'm on the left, but I'm a populist. And I said, well, I'd like you to record it and I won't do it unless you show me the transcript. And I will talk for 15, 20 minutes. Well, it was an hour. And he kept saying on the interview, oh, this is, you know, something like that. It's not much about solvically. And then you should read it. It's just, I look like an idiot. And it's all Trump. And then I asked him for the transcript. I said, you didn't send it to him. I forgot. I'm so sorry. I didn't send it to you. We were under a deadline and I see it now. Oh, no, I raced it. Oh, my gosh. He did the same thing with Michael Oren interview. And Michael Oren quit, I think, the interview. Yeah. I don't know if he still does it, but he was a very irresponsible journalist. You can't do that is what I'm trying to say. If you're on the conservative side under no circumstances, do you give an interview? Susan Wiles is a very smart person and she tried to give a human side to Vanity Fair. And they edited and made her look unlike what she is. It was very unfair. So don't ever, any of you out there, and don't ever, if you're a conservative, think that because they have titles and establishment venues, they don't. They're not intellectually honest people. Well, let's wrap up here, Victor, with your thoughts on this visa fraud investigation. Kaylee Mackinney, isn't she's a fan of Victor, I think? But she's on... I'm a big fan of hers. Yeah, she's done a good job here. HB1 visa fraud. So I'm looking at her. This is a post on that. Shocking H1B visa investigation. Nearly 7 million visas have been processed since 2015. 70% are from India, 12% are from China. A former official told Newsweek that 80 to 90% of the applications from India involve fraudulent documents or unqualified applicants. There's a network of universities that are selling fake degrees. I saw something related to this, roughly 1500 bucks. You can buy a fake degree and that's now under investigation. One university allegedly is selling 36,000 plus fake degrees. So the whole point of H1B visa is being defied by A fraud, B bringing in low qualified workers. I'm really worried about that. I think we all are because we're all proponents of measured, measured, diverse, diverse, not from one place. Maracritic, they have some skills and English speaking and legal immigration. And that's good. But not the numbers that we can't acculturate or integrate. But it's kind of like the Iranian diaspora. When the Shah was tottering, most of the conservative Iranians and also most of the Jewish community realized that he was going to fall and that Khomeini eventually would come into power and not the European socialists that were his mouthpieces. So they fled and they fled mostly not to Europe, to the United States. So that first generation of Iranian immigrants who were in their 80s and 90s, 70s are very patriotic and very pro-American and very conservative and very entrepreneurial. The next wave, three or four years later, they thought that they could handle Khomeini and the theocrats and institute a basically pro-left wing European, anti-American, socialist EU type of government, God's body, but especially Bobby Slaughter. And they either got killed or they rounded them up and put them in jail or they fled for their lives. And the second diaspora came to the United States and they tended to be left wing in the media, in law, in academia. So when you meet Iranian immigrants, if you see them in private enterprise and they're older, they tend to be very pro-American. But if you see them in these professions I just detailed, they are like the American left. Only they blame us for Khomeini. And the same thing is happening, I'm afraid, with the Indian diaspora because it's getting bigger and bigger and bigger. The first generations, although they were very proud, mostly in our area, Sikhs, they were very proud of their religion and they had been persecuted in India, but they were fully integrating within American society. They came in limited numbers. They were fluent in English when they got here. They were very successful, very skilled in agriculture, very emphatic on education. I think in my recent medical experience, I would say 40% of the doctors that I encountered, I put it higher, maybe 60% of the doctors were from either India or China, here on the West Coast. But what's happening now is, for the first time, we were taking Indian immigrants en mass without audits, many of them illegally as we know from the Indian truck drivers. And it's a different type of diaspora than the first and second generations that started when I was a kid. And I don't think it's going to end well because you can really see it when something goes wrong with this current generation. In the case of India, as we saw in Britain, the Sikh community came out and said they were persecuted, they were suffering from hate crimes, yet they had perpetuated a hate crime, a fake one. And this family was responsible and they were not disowned by the Sikh community. They should have said, we disown what these people did. They don't represent our values. The same thing now is happening with the truck drivers. The community was having a petition. I got an email about it that they wanted people to sign in support of Sikh truck drivers, that they weren't being singled out. There were all kinds of people from the Western Hemisphere, from Asia, from China who were given licenses without knowledge proficiency and did not have to pass the test in the normal fashion. But that community should have been, was what I'm trying to say, they should have been saying, these people, we don't, just because they happen to have ethnic affinities with us doesn't mean that we have anything to do or condone what they're doing. We condemn them if they came here illegally and they broke the law, they should be returned. Well Victor, we're going to wrap it up now. You need to get another cup of coffee or something. I'm wheezing a little bit. But I'm going to end the show with one comment of the many, many, many provided on YouTube, Rumble, Apple, Victor's own website. This one is from Gran, 3241 writes, thank you Mr. Hansen for telling the truth that the Noak and Floyd deaths were not similar at all. Those who claim they are similar simply want a reason to riot, Great Britain is a disaster and the Democrats would like our country to be the same. I'll read one more also since we talked about 60 minutes, JZM task 7431 writes, the content of these podcasts are so truthful. Maybe Victor will be asked to be on 60 minutes to get them back to telling the unbiased truth. He is a national treasure, thank you. If I had a nickel for everyone who called you a national treasure, Victor, I would have thousands of dollars said because it's true, you are a national treasure. That's a great honor and a privilege to. I don't think I am, but if I were, I was only about a half a national treasure. I have to get back to my normal. That's for us to decide. You just have to take the praise and deal with that. For me, Jack Fowler, if you would kindly go to civilthoughts.com and sign up for the free weekly email newsletter. I write for the Center for Civil Society. When you do that every Friday in your inbox comes the email and it has 14 and 15 recommended readings, great articles I've come across the previous week. I'm confident you're going to like it. Remember Victor's website, thebladeofpersiaisvictorhanson.com. Okay, enough. Victor, you've been terrific. Thanks for all the wisdom you shared. Great stories. We'll get some more farm danger stories from you in the future. We'll be back soon with another episode of Victor Davis Hansen in his own words. Bye-bye. Thank you for tuning in to The Daily Signal. Please like, share, and subscribe to be notified for more content like this. You can also check out my own website at victorhanson.com and subscribe for exclusive features in addition.