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The Sixth Bureau podcast is a story of the inner workings of the MSS and how one man's ambition and mistakes opened its vault of secrets. Listen to The Sixth Bureau on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Taking a Walk Nashville. Hi, this is Sarah Harrelson, your host of Taking a Walk Nashville. And today I am here with songwriter, artist, podcast, and radio host Dave Linehan. And we're here in his home in Hermitage, right outside of Nashville. And for listeners who don't know, in Hermitage, visitors can also find the home of President Andrew Jackson, our seventh president of the United States. So a lot of history here. But I'm excited to share with listeners Dave's story today. Dave Linehan, he's originally from Cleveland, Ohio, the birthplace of rock and roll. And he's a lifelong musician and radio veteran of over 40 years working at different stations. in different formats in Ohio, including B-105 and Cincinnati. It's Dacian that's a six-time winner of the CMA Awards for Large Market Station of the Year. And through radio, he has met and interviewed many different country legends and then proceeded to move to Nashville in 2013, where you now write with several independent artists. You've earned over a million Spotify streams. Wow. And in addition to songwriting. Dave, you're the host of the popular podcast Songwriter Connection and the host of Nashville Connection radio show every Friday morning on WNOI in Illinois, I believe. Yes, it is. Yeah. Well, Dave, there's a lot for us to discuss today. I'm so tired. Do I do all that? Wow. It's very easy. Well, thank you for having me in your home today. How are you for coming to my home to interview me? It's crazy. I'm so honored. Yeah, I'm excited to be here. And, you know, songwriting and performing wasn't just something you decided to do one day. It seems you're always performing music, playing with a band while you were a radio host. Did you have a love for both being a broadcaster and performer or did one come before the other? Yeah, as a matter of fact, there were probably 10 years in there where I didn't even pick up a guitar because I was so focused on the radio career and trying to make it there. As I was helping, I was too busy being a radio star. But it was always there. It was always in my heart. Got my first guitar when I was 11. And my brother and I got them for Christmas. And he was a couple years younger than me. And he picked up right away. He was the kind of guy that could hear it on the radio and then just play it, you know, without even taking lessons. So we played a lot together. We played in church. And then when I was in radio for a while, too, I was in a really good worship band in Cincinnati. Wow. In fact, the bass player in that band is now Taylor Swift's bass player. Oh, wow. Amos Heller. Great guy. Yeah. So anyway, it's been a neat journey. Yeah, it sounds like it. And I love how in your biography it mentions your career in radio is always under your real name because, you know, so many radio hosts have a different name from what they go by. So that was interesting. And it just seems very authentic for you. And that was that was it. And it was a conscious decision. I didn't I thought about being authentic, you know, and it's the same in country music today. I mean, people can see right through if it's not authentic. So I always wanted to be myself. I don't know if it was the greatest strategy in the world, but I didn't have to play a character. Right. That was just me. So I hope that worked. Yeah. So when you were playing with your band in Ohio, did people see you and be like, oh, that's also the radio host of that station? Sometimes, yeah. I was having a minor celebrity in our church. It's kind of cool. Yeah. But the nice thing about radio is people don't see your face, so they don't recognize you a lot. That's true. But yeah, I'm sure they recognized your voice when you were talking. Now, when you were in Cincinnati, you also became the chapter coordinator for NSAI, which is the Nashville Songwriters Association International. It's a wonderful organization for songwriters. How did you get involved with them? And that's eventually what brought me here. I was working for a station called 96.5 in Cincinnati, where I did afternoon drive. and one day got a call from NSAI. And they had a huge chapter in Cincinnati and Dayton. Wow. And they said, would you mind coming? We want to talk about how songs are added to playlists and how they chart, things like that. I said, well, let me bring my program director and we'll come. And I went to the meeting and there were 60 people in this room, maybe more. And they were all songwriters. And I'm like, oh my God, you guys all write songs? Because I was writing songs when I was a kid, you know? And, and I just fell in love with these people. We were like kindred spirits. And I started going to the meetings and becoming a part of it and really getting into songwriting again. And eventually became one of the coordinators. And it was an honor to do that. And through that, we were coming down to Nashville and writing a lot, meeting new people, but for different reasons. It wasn't for anyone anymore. It was for songwriting and it was so cool. And we just knew eventually we were going to end up here. And here we are. Yeah. And I think it's great. They do chapters to support songwriters who maybe aren't able to make it to Nashville right now, but they're still living their dreams, wherever they're from. Yeah, absolutely. And I tell folks on my podcast, join at SAI if you're into it. And if there isn't a chapter, well, start one. Get a bunch of like-minded people who love music and love to write. Start meeting every week, even if it's just once a month. Build your own group. Challenge each other. Come up with song prompts. Critique each other's music. You know, that's what it's all about. Yeah, they're such a great resource for songwriters. And I want to talk about your upcoming project. It's really interesting because you're currently preparing to release a new album, Absalom, a concept-driven project inspired by a forgotten Tennessee cemetery that you helped uncover and preserve. Now, you've released a few singles from this project already. And with help from historical researchers and songwriters, you uncovered 70 graves, which is really amazing. Actually, now they're telling the Historical Society in their latest email to me, say they believe there's between 70 and 100 graves there. Oh, my goodness. Isn't that something? What made you want to do this project? This is the craziest story and the craziest thing I've ever been involved with. It really is. I mean, I was going for walks around this neighborhood. And where I live in Hermitage, like you said, this is where Andrew Jackson was, you know? Yeah. And I had thought, and I thought I heard somewhere, right? I always believed that all of this used to be owned by Andrew Jackson, you know? Wow. But I found out it wasn't the case when I discovered the cemetery. There was a new you know at the end of our road here to the Grove there was a huge wooded area And it was just wild And one day they started plowing it And next thing I know they building homes and you know in this area And so one day I went for a walk and I'm going through where the new homes were. And I cut through this empty lot. And on the right, I see this sign and it's all beat up and bent. It looked like there's mud thrown on it or whatever. And it said Absalom Gleave Cemetery. I'm like, what the heck is that? Because it was was all woods. You know, it was all, I go, ah, we're crazy. So, you know, my walks every now and then I'd go through it. And every time I was like a little curious, you know, it's just something in your mind, just very curious about it. And so one day, cause I couldn't remember the Absalom wasn't a name I was really familiar with. Absalom. What's it, was it, it's like two families. Where's the cemetery? The sign looked like it was pointing somewhere. I didn't know. So one day I took a picture of the sign. I went home and I Googled it. It came up Absalom Gleaves, that he was a county magistrate. And I said, well, where is this cemetery? So it was like October and leaves are falling now, you know, late October. And I go over there and I said, I'm going to figure out where this is. And as I walk to the, to, to where I saw the sign, I could see this little obelisk, like pointing out from under the trees. And I go, it's right here. It's behind this sign. Wow. And it was all overgrown. I mean, there was honeysuckle up over my head. There was trees and And so I dug my way back there and it's beautiful obelisk standing up and there was a little stone and it said, Absalom Cleaves departed life in 1834. And I went, wow, this is antebellum. It's really out of my interest. Some switch of history. And I walk on the other side and it said Catherine Cleaves, 1866. It was his wife. And I thought, what in the world? So I went back that evening with a saw and a pruning shears. and I just started cutting my way all around there. And I went back home that night and I, I Googled them again and I came up, there was this whole Gleaves Cemetery site. And as it turns out, the Gleaves family were very prominent in this area. They were contemporaries of Andrew Jackson. Absalom actually fought with Andrew in the War of 1812. Absalom's father fought in the Civil War and then they came west. Go west, young man, right? And they acquired a lot of property in this area. In fact, there were a bunch of different Gleaves cemeteries. I just happened to stumble across Absalom's. And so I made it my project to clear it. And I reached out to them through that website and I found a descendant, a guy named Owen Gleaves, and we became really dear friends. He said, when I was a kid, I used to maintain that cemetery. It's some stool now. and, you know, I have some health issues. He said, but you have my permission. You have the family's permission to start clearing it. So I remember a few sleepless nights going, how am I going to do this? This is a lot of work. I mean, trees had fallen down. You know, we had a tornado through here. And Owen said to me, if you can make it back to the old oak tree, Mary Wilford's buried there. I go, who's she? He goes, we don't know. So that was my first path. I cut, I spent an afternoon, cut all the way back. there's this old oak tree we think it's about arborist tells us it could be 270 years old so it's like a witness tree it was there when Absalom passed you know and it was all on Absalom's property you know all of this he owned this property where I live today so I made it back to Mary Wilford and it just I started climbing down that rabbit hole I found on the website that there was somebody named Aunt Nancy buried there again what the connection is to the family I don't know, my friend Loretta found her grave site just walking through. I mean, chopping her way through when she gets to this tree and another tree had fallen over and broken her stone in three places. Just, and all I could do was reach in there with my phone and take a picture and I pulled it back out and went, Mary Wolford. And I went, Loretta, you found Mary Wolford's grave. I knew she was here. And as we were clearing, we would step on a stone and we'd step on a stone and these were gray markers, you know? Um, so eventually we got the historical society out there. Owen and I, and a few other songwriter friends like Joe Bozzelli would come out and just spend an afternoon clearing, cutting trees down and, uh, you know, getting to the bottom of it. The historical society came out a couple of different times. They helped me put so much of it together. And what we found out is Absalom was, uh, the county magistrate in this area in the 1820s and 30s, which is kind of the justice of the peace, you know? So people would come to him to get married, to settle disputes and things like that. And they said that being the person that he was, probably a lot of people would come to him, you know, with problems and say, you know, so-and-so died. And he goes, well, I've got a cemetery. You can just bury him right here, you know? And that's probably what happens. They tell us that between 70 and 100 people are buried there in this small area, 52 by 82 area. And so I still go by there every day and pay my respects and take a look. It's just hard to, it just grows up, stuff around it grows up so fast. But here's the really interesting story. I couldn't figure out, these are very God-fearing people, you know, know, Baptist, strict Baptist. And how we know this is, the historical studies is, you notice all these graves are facing east, and there's a reason for that. I go, really, what is that? He goes, because that's where Jesus is supposed to rise when he comes back. So they'll always bury their people facing east. So that was a big clue. But I couldn't figure out, if you were God-searing people, why would you name your child Absalom, who was a bad guy in the Bible? If you read the Bible. Absalom was David's son. He raised an army to try to kill his dad and take it over and died a horrible death. So I figured, why would you name your son Absalom? And so I Googled it and here's what I found out. And this is fascinating to me. They felt, they loved religious names. They loved biblical names. And, but so you start running out, you know? So they, they loved the story behind the name more than the story of the person in the Bible. And so if you look at the name Absalom, and it didn't hit me until I read this, Absalom means Abba is Father and Shalom is Peace. So his name meant Father of Peace. And he was the justice of the peace in this area. It just blew me away. Wow. So that became the second Psalm, Father of Peace, that we released. And that was written by Jessica Nixon and myself. Okay. Yeah. So is each song on the album about a different person that you uncovered from the cemetery? No. No, from there, I just started recording songs that, you know, I write a lot of songs and I got a lot of indie cuts, but not a lot of major cuts, you know? So I thought somebody needs to record these. So I started recording them on my own. And so the rest of these songs, we did two here in Nashville with Cedric Israel, who did a wonderful job. In fact, you know, he produced Father of Peace and Absalom. And he brought Joe Spivey in from the Time Jumpers to play violin fiddle on Absalom and just turned out so great. And so he did the next one. It was fantastic. And then along comes my friend Alan Sanderson. His wife and I write a lot of songs. Her name is Taylin Ray. She's a great singer. And he is a Grammy award-winning engineer and producer in San Diego. And this guy has worked with everybody from Elton John to Michael Jackson. His stories are amazing. In fact, we did a podcast with him we had him tell all these great stories um and so just for the heck of it one day alan you got your own studio in san diego it's called pacific beat it's really cool just a few blocks up from the beach i said well would you be interested in recording some of my songs and low to half you be my producer he goes dude i will put together a great band you come out to san diego we'll record it out there that's exactly what we did so the next four songs we recorded out there and they had nothing really to do with it Absalom but they're just fun songs uh you know like I always wanted to do my version of Baby I'm Gone that was my big cut uh Chancey Williams cut that and was cut by four other artists and then finally my own version that I recorded in San Diego so that was one of the first that we cut and we did a video and that was so fun and uh the one out there right now is called Die on this Barstool we shot the video recently at Betty Lou's not too far from here is my favorite bars um and just had a blast So, you know what? I tell people, say, how you doing, Dave? I say, I'm living the dream. I always wanted to do this right here. And the podcast is my mix of my two loves of broadcasting, especially interviewing people, and songwriting. So I'm just doing everything I love. And I'm staying real busy. So Mark Allen Barnett coined this term, retire up. That what I feel like I did I be tired up Yeah you have so much going on I really excited for this album We be right back with more of the Taking a Walk Nashville podcast I'm Clayton Eckerd, and in 2022, I was the lead of ABC's The Bachelor. Unfortunately, it didn't go according to plan. He became the first Bachelor to ever have his final rose rejected. The internet turned on him. If I could press a button and rewind it all, I would. But what happened to Clayton after the show made even bigger headlines. It began as a one-night stand and ended in a courtroom, with Clayton at the center of a very strange paternity scandal. The media is here. 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But what if we didn't get the whole story? moment you look at the whole picture, the case collapses. I'm Amanda Knox, and in the new podcast Doubt, the case of Lucy Letby, we follow the evidence and hear from the people that lived it to ask what really happened when the world decided who Lucy Letby was. No voicing of any skepticism or doubt. It'll cause so much harm at every single level if the British establishment of this is Listen to Doubt, The Case of Lucy Letby on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to Taking a Walk Nashville. Country music is all about the storytelling, and you certainly did this by uncovering graves in a cemetery. Do you have a projected release date for this album? You know, I don't right now because I'm with, I signed this little indie label and this wonderful publicist named Jill Pavel. And she's just been wonderful in getting the word out about my songs and also my podcast. She's just been just wonderful. And so we've been doing a lot of strategizing and I've been still recording. So we're thinking about a new concept. Maybe it won't even be called Absalom. You know how things change so fast in the industry, right? So we've got a couple of new songs that we've recorded that I'm really anxious for people to hear. One is called Wildflowers that we wrote with Kari Phillips and turned out so good. So, you know, we may extend it a little bit, but we were hoping for a January release. There's one more song from San Diego that we've got to release. It's called First. And that was just, this past year was just nuts for me. I just cannot begin to tell you. Good and bad. roller coaster. Um, in February is when we went out to San Diego to record, but also in February, I lost my mother, you know, and, uh, she had been sick with Alzheimer's and, and her cancer came back and it was so hard on my dad. You know, he, he was the main caregiver and God bless him. I love him so much. My dad just turned 90 and he did everything for, you know, and, and I, I would feel guilty not being so far away up in Ohio. They're up in Ohio. And one day I was visiting and we had this really heart-to-heart talk, you know, about life and everything. And the song that came out of it was First, which is going to be released in January. And it's kind of sad. I'm listening with Kleenex. And so I came out of that conversation. Again, Jessica Nixon, an amazing songwriter, helped writing that. As a matter of fact, she sings Background. That and L.A.P.S. Full. Yeah, so, yeah. Yeah, we're looking forward to hearing your new single from that. Not sure if you've done this already or have thought about this. Maybe you should even record a music video or music performance in that cemetery. I think that'll be awesome. Well, actually, we did. The Absalom video is out there. Okay. Check out my YouTube page. Just Google it and it'll come up. But my friend who's a documentary filmmaker, Martin Buchanan, has done three of my videos, and that was the first one. And we actually went into that cemetery. I tell you, at one point, he took a little drone and it went up over the sign. and down into the cemetery and you can see all the graves and it's, uh, check it out. And, oh, and by the way, Owen Gleaves, who was my dear friend who also, he died like a week after my mother and I miss him so much. He, uh, he, he, as I was clearing the cemetery and I was doing 1834 stuff, I'm chopping it by hand. And all these couplets started coming into my head, you know, his family owned this property, you know, from Wilson County to the stones, all these rhyming couple. I must've had about 20 Ellen and I just record them in my phone. And, uh, I couldn't figure out how to attach them all. You know, I, you know, we're looking for a good, um, and one day Owen meets me at the cemetery. He pulls up in his truck into the field. He hops out of that truck, does a little jigging. He goes, Absalom, Absalom, what you doing in that ground? And I, my eyes opened up and I'm going, what did you just sing? Do it again. And he did. That's exactly what I'm looking for, Owen. And that became the chorus of the song. Absalom, Absalom, what you're doing in that ground. So on the very beginning of that cemetery, you will see the marker, Absalom leaves, departed light. You'll see that. And then all of a sudden we switch to, oh, and going Absalom, Absalom, what you're doing in that ground? Wow. That's amazing. Yeah. I love that you got the idea for it when you were in the actual cemetery. So definitely check out the music video. Is there a place where people can read through everything you've uncovered from this cemetery? Is that an ongoing project? It's just an ongoing project. There are websites for Glebe Cemetery. And if you look up, you can find the Absalom Glebe Cemetery. I'll tell you where it is and everything. So I got to get back out there, do some clearing while occurring. You know, we had a whole summer's worth of growth. Yeah, that's wonderful. And, you know, you think, you know, Tennessee right in the middle of the Civil War, there's got to be so many cemeteries just in Tennessee in general with unmarked grave. So yeah, I have one of my buddies who's lived here for a while and I was telling my buddies, yeah, you'll find cemeteries as if it was nothing. And I went, well, but I found this one. Yeah. This one I'm going to take care of. So, uh, uh, and I'm sure there are a lot, but you know so cool about I mean he died before the civil war but his wife lived through it Wow Right through the whole thing So I just fell down that rabbit hole I read everything I could you know about that family And about Ed Rejection, too. It's very interesting. Yeah, I'm sure there's so much history in there. Good and bad. Yeah, definitely a lot of good and bad history intertwined there. In addition to this and your own music, you know, you've got your podcast songwriter connection going on at the same time. It drops weekly with Nashville songwriter guest. I even got to be a part of this with Women Behind the Lyrics. People can hear that episode. It was so great to have you. I love what you're doing with that. And Wendy and Judy and... And Zelainey. Delainey. Gosh, I love her voice. You guys are awesome together. I'm so excited for that project to get released. Yeah, I'm excited for it to come out too next year. And, you know, your own podcast, you've interviewed hundreds of songwriters on it. How did you even come up with the idea for this podcast? It was during COVID. And I got a call from the guy who used to do traffic on my radio show in Cincinnati. And I love him. He's Len Harvey. We used to have a blast on the radio. And he calls me out of the blue and he goes, hey, man, would you come and be on my podcast? I go, well, you've got a podcast? And he goes, yeah, man, we'll just do it. It's a Zoom thing. And we'll have fun, just like the old days. And they went, interesting. I said, I'll tell you what, Len. I will do it on one condition. I see you tell me everything you know about podcasts because I have this idea of, I want to do one about songwriting. And it's just started right there. And I started doing my research. I was up late nights, wasn't sleeping much. I had this thing called polymyalgia, which affects all your joints. And the only recur is through prednisone, a big dose of prednisone. and the problem with prednisone, have you ever had any kind of that steroid kind of things? You don't sleep very well. You know, you're just antsy. So I'd use that time to just research podcasts, write everything I could about it, you know, find a host, the whole thing, you know, and what kind of equipment are you going to use? And I, I just took four or five months doing nothing but that. And then of course, you know how it goes. You start, okay, we're going to, are we doing it? I guess we're doing this. So you start lining up people that you, that you think We make good guests. And my first guest was Billy Lee. He wrote Gary Allen's big hit, The One, and has been a dear friend for a long time. I said, we're going to use you as a guinea pig. And that was the first episode. And then we were off and running. And it's just been a blast. And we're to the point now, we're almost to 3 million. As we record this, we're almost to 3 million streams. Wow. That's amazing. We're about to do our second live one in front of a live audience at The Local. And day drinking. Early evening drinking. Yeah. And it'll be a blast. We're going to have Randy Brooks. Randy Brooks wrote, Crab all got run over by her. You hear it every Christmas, right? You're bound to know her by heart. And we're going to get the story behind that song and many others. Nice. Yeah, that'll be a great episode. Yeah, there's hundreds of episodes for people to dive in on your podcast, Sunwriter Connection. So people can check out that in addition to your own music and upcoming album, Absalom. Dave, I always like to ask this on my podcast since it's called Taking a Walk Nashville. I think I might already know the answer, but do you have a favorite place to take a walk in Nashville? Is it the Absalom Cemetery? It is. It really is. Yeah. I'll walk there. Yeah. Very cool. Is it open to the public now because people walk through it? They'll find it. Wonderful. Yeah. It's in the back of this field. One of the only empty fields left in the hermitage area. And it's at the very back of that field. Wow. Yeah. We'll see the sign. We'll see the cleaned up. So are these unmarked gravestones, are they being populated with names now? Are you keeping them as they are? We're keeping them as they are. And there's just no way to tell who's who. The ones that are marked are Absalom and Catherine. Mary Wolford underneath the tree. to the right. We repaired that sign. You can see that it's been glued in three, but it stands about this tall now. And then Mary Wolford under the tree. And we just left that stone leaning up against the tree as we found it. So, but yeah, you can walk through it. And like I say, there's some more growth. I got to get up there. Yeah. You know what else I wanted to talk about though? Remember saying what a crazy year it was. so also in February I'm getting off the plane from San Diego and I get a call from my friend Chantel Ogden she's a sync supervisor and a great songwriter and a great you know Chantel I do yeah she said give me a call when you get a chance so the next morning I texted her and I say you good for a call boom she calls and we caught up because I hadn't talked to her for a while I thought you know we had once she'd been on the podcast I don't think she wanted to be on the podcast again she goes no I don't know if you know this but I've been a sync agent for so long and I'm thinking, I can write these movies. So I wrote a Hallmark kind of movie for Christmas called Music City Mistletail. And I said, that's great, Chantel. She goes, I think I got a part for you. I go, me? Did you ever do any acting? I said, yeah, but it's been a long time. She goes, well, I'm going to send you a script. You just read this into the phone and we'll let you know. I go, okay. So I did. And son of a gun, I got the part. So that movie launches tomorrow as we record this. There's a ass. And it'll be available to rent or buy. I believe it's Amazon and Apple Plus. And I think eventually it's going to be on the Faith and Family Network. Very cool. Congrats. And it was such a stretch. I got to play a songwriter. Guy named Tom Martin. Now, the difference between Tom Martin and me, Tom has had a lot of number ones and the Grammy. At least one Grammy, which I am. Because, you know, if I did, it'd be sitting right there at that Grammy right there under my lava lamp. So, but anyway, no. And so that was a blast. It's been a, did I tell you it's been a crazy year? It sounds like it. I mean, you're multi-talented from podcast hosts, radio hosts, songwriter, artist, actor. No, I got my own IMDB. It's crazy. Maybe Graveyard Digger. One of those days. Yeah. Well, Dave, thank you so much for being on Taking a Walk Nashville today. 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