Chicks in the Office

Alex Cooper vs Alix Earle Escalates + Demi Lovato & Selena Gomez's Surprise Reunion

62 min
Apr 15, 20267 days ago
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Summary

Hosts Rianne and Fran discuss the escalating feud between influencers Alex Cooper and Alix Earle, speculate on whether Alix will respond via TikTok, and celebrate the surprise reunion of Demi Lovato and Selena Gomez at Demi's tour stop in Orlando where Joe Jonas also performed.

Insights
  • Social media beefs between creators follow predictable platform hierarchies—TikTok is the primary battleground for response videos, not podcasts or other channels
  • Celebrity reunions and nostalgia moments generate significant engagement and emotional investment from audiences, even when the original drama occurred years ago
  • Timing of public statements matters strategically—Alex Cooper's video about Alix Earle may have backfired by distracting from other controversies rather than controlling the narrative
  • Influencer relevance is cyclical and context-dependent; public sentiment can shift rapidly based on recent actions and perceived authenticity
  • Behind-the-scenes industry relationships (like composer disputes on TV shows) reveal tension between creative vision and artist autonomy that affects final product quality
Trends
Creator feuds as engagement drivers—brands and platforms benefit from conflict narratives that keep audiences investedNostalgia marketing and reunion content performing exceptionally well with millennial audiences seeking emotional connectionInfluencer accountability through social media call-outs replacing traditional media criticismStrategic silence and non-response as a power move in creator conflictsCross-platform reputation management becoming critical as different platforms serve different narrative purposesCelebrity relationship transparency and public documentation of reconciliations as content strategyComposer/creator disputes in entertainment production reflecting broader power dynamics in creative industriesInfluencer dating and relationship content as reliable engagement and sponsorship opportunityReality TV franchise fatigue and audience skepticism about casting decisions and production ethicsCollectible branded merchandise (limited edition cans, merch) as engagement and loyalty tool
Topics
Alex Cooper vs Alix Earle Social Media FeudTikTok as Primary Response Platform for Creator ConflictsDemi Lovato and Selena Gomez ReunionJoe Jonas Performance at Demi Lovato ConcertEuphoria Season 3 Composer Change (Hans Zimmer vs Labrinth)The City Reality TV Show Casting DecisionsRuby Rose Allegations Against Katy PerryChase McWhorter and Halle Bachelder Coachella HookupBachelor/Bachelorette Franchise UncertaintyCelebrity Nostalgia and Reunion Content StrategyInfluencer Authenticity and Narrative ControlReality TV Production Ethics and Casting TransparencyCreator Compensation and Industry Power DynamicsSocial Media Platform Hierarchy in Conflict ResolutionInfluencer Dating Content as Engagement Strategy
Companies
Microsoft
Microsoft 365 Co-Pilot featured as primary sponsor, promoting AI-integrated productivity tools for Word, Excel, and O...
PepsiCo
Pepsi Prebiotic Cola featured as sponsor with multiple ad reads throughout episode, promoting new product line
DraftKings
DraftKings Sportsbook promoted as official NBA betting partner with profit boost offers during playoffs
Ollie
Dog food subscription service featured as sponsor with health tracking app integration for pet wellness
Truly
Truly Hard Seltzer promoted limited edition collectible cans with city designs and US Soccer merchandise giveaway
No Bull
No Bull Project footwear brand featured as sponsor offering sneakers and casual athletic wear
Liberty Mutual
Liberty Mutual car insurance featured in ad read promoting customizable coverage options
LinkedIn
LinkedIn Hiring Pro featured as recruitment tool for small businesses to streamline hiring workflow
HBO
HBO's Euphoria series discussed regarding composer change and production decisions for season 3
Bravo
Bravo's Summer House and Winter House franchises discussed regarding The City spinoff casting decisions
ABC
ABC's Bachelor/Bachelorette franchise discussed regarding Taylor Frankie Paul season and Paradise casting
Amazon Music
Amazon Music mentioned as distribution platform for podcast with ad-free listening for Prime members
Apple Podcasts
Apple Podcasts listed as primary distribution platform for Chicks in the Office podcast
Spotify
Spotify listed as podcast distribution platform alongside Apple Podcasts and YouTube
People
Rianne Fran
Co-host of Chicks in the Office podcast discussing celebrity news and social media drama
Noah
Co-host/producer of Chicks in the Office providing commentary and managing podcast segments
Alex Cooper
Subject of feud with Alix Earle; hosts Call Her Daddy podcast and recently faced criticism for guest choices
Alix Earle
TikTok influencer in public feud with Alex Cooper over unspecified grievances; expected to respond via video
Demi Lovato
Performed first show of tour in Orlando with surprise appearance by Selena Gomez and Joe Jonas
Selena Gomez
Attended Demi Lovato's Orlando concert, marking public reunion after years of distance from Wizards of Waverly Place era
Joe Jonas
Performed 'On My Mind' with Demi Lovato at her Orlando concert, surprising fans with unexpected collaboration
Brianna Chicken Fry
Commented on Alex Cooper feud, suggesting Alix Earle will 'destroy' Cooper and expressing support for Earle
Dave Portnoy
Posted speculation about Alix Earle's response being sarcastic rather than genuine commitment to video
Ruby Rose
Made allegations against Katy Perry on social media; allegations denied by Perry's team as categorically false
Katy Perry
Denied allegations made by Ruby Rose through official statement calling claims 'categorically false' and 'dangerous'
Chase McWhorter
Seen kissing influencer Halle Bachelder at Coachella; confirmed through representative to People magazine
Halle Bachelder
Photographed kissing Chase McWhorter at Coachella; engaged with him on social media following encounter
James Marsden
Discussed as standout performer in 'Your Friends and Neighbors' series alongside Olivia Munn
Olivia Munn
Discussed as co-star with James Marsden in 'Your Friends and Neighbors' with romantic storyline
Labrinth
Removed music from Euphoria season 3 after alleging mistreatment by HBO; replaced by Hans Zimmer
Hans Zimmer
Hired to compose Euphoria season 3 score after Labrinth's departure; discussed as different vibe for show
Sam Levinson
Creator of Euphoria; subject of criticism regarding treatment of collaborators and show direction
Lindsay Hubbard
Speculated to be driving force behind The City spinoff casting; ex-fiancée Carl not included in show
Taylor Frankie Paul
Bachelorette lead whose season contestants appearing on Bachelor Happy Hour podcast for promotion
Quotes
"Not everything is PR, this is not PR. Now this would make for a great video to post if Alex Earl is the Gaston called her daddy this week. But that's not gonna happen."
Rianne FranEarly segment
"Cooper and Earl. Injury attorneys. Call 1-800 Cooper and Earl."
Rianne FranMid-segment
"People aren't reacting big enough for Joe Jonas for my liking lately, just in general. He swims here. It's like, are you kidding me? Give the man the respect he deserves."
Rianne FranDemi Lovato segment
"I truly lost sleep over seeing this last night. Like I was laying in bed and I thought, I can't believe no one told me to be there for this."
Rianne FranDemi Lovato reunion discussion
"People comfortably lie in this industry and still call themselves honest people. I left because last truth, when I work for someone, their vision is paramount to me, but I don't let people treat me like shit."
LabrinthEuphoria composer discussion
Full Transcript
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I feel lovely, the spring is sprung, a little too sprung. Oh God, it's never good for you. It's either too cold or it's too sprung. Well it's just like where's spring? Honey, this is only like a four day little window. Right, no, this is fake summer. Well we already got fake summer, so now we're getting fake summer part two. This is real thing, we're like 90s. No I know, but then it's gonna be cold again next week. So much to say we're getting fake summer part two. But once again I'm complaining because my apartment gets too hot. Well then we gotta get you a fan or something because I'm loving this weather. I said to my building, I said can we please turn the heat off, they said not yet. Well honestly then I'm with you, that's bullshit. But the weather today is so gorgeous. It's fucking gorgeous out. Here's the thing, my olive walk this morning when it was 68 degrees and sunny, gorgeous. Gorgeous, it's a little hot now but it's, the sun is shining, that's really all we can be thankful for. It's another day with the sun is shining. Let's just be thankful for that. Anytime the sun's out I'm good. Yeah, me too. I have a couple coffee in my hand right now, I got my lipstick on it, like it's early 2000s. Like I'm going through Dairy Barn and that's how I feel. I need a little magazine. You know I'm feeling feisty today. You are a little bit, yeah. Yeah, like I'm talking shit. You're looking for a competition. I'm looking for a fight today, you know. But like in a fun way, it's like a fun banter fight. But at the same time I got a lot to say, you know. Agreed. And that's where I'm at, it's just, you know. It's that kind of day, it's like when the sun revs up your engine, I know. But you get a little angry because you gotta be inside. Yeah well I'm like, I need to run free. Yeah, yeah. I'm getting riled up because why do people think that this Alex Earl and Alex Cooper thing is a PR thing? It's the same people. I just saw another video, is someone saying that? It's the same people that thought that Amanda and Wes was an April Fool's joke. Not everything is PR, this is not PR. Now this would make for a great video to post if Alex Earl is the Gaston called her daddy this week. But that's not gonna happen. That is not gonna happen. What if it does? She already did all that, she worked at the company. I agree. I'm with you, I agree. Where have people been, did they miss that whole thing? That she went on the show and worked at the company, everything, why would she be going on call daddy? To talk about her skin care brand. That's not happening. I don't even know if it would be that, it's like, oh promo for the skin care. I think it would be them teaming up to be saying let's make the maximum amount of this. But it would only really benefit Cooper which makes me think why would they do, why would Earl do it? It's not benefit, because it would have- Neither of them need PR. Neither of them need this. What people are saying is like, oh this is some whole big thing to get them to hash it out on call her daddy. Okay, well if they hash it out on call her daddy, it's only benefiting call her daddy and Unwell and Earl's done with them. Right, why would Alcer want to give her the numbers? That's not happening. I agree. I think it's just because somebody needs to speak. We need to know what's happening because, by the way, we're recording this podcast. Dave put on his story that Brianna messaged him and said, Alex Earl is going to destroy Alex Cooper. She wrote, she's going to destroy her. But now we're recording and it's 3 p.m. on Tuesday. By the time we put this out, I'm gonna be really pissed if we put this out and then all of a sudden we wake up and there's a video from Alex Earl and our listeners don't get to hear our thoughts on it until Friday. Right. We're gonna have to pop on with an emergency episode because everyone wants to know the thoughts and we're just waiting and waiting to see what the response is gonna be. I don't know if she will, to be honest. I was kind of on Dave's side of like, he post on his story that he's starting to think that her I'm on it was like a sarcastic, you know, I'm on it, girlfriend, I'm fucking, I'm busy. But until she posts a different video on TikTok, I feel like people are gonna, like, she hasn't posted on TikTok since this fall started. So true, no. She's posted pictures and stuff on Instagram. Pictures though, but that's a different platform. Yeah, her bread and butter is TikTok though, she hasn't posted a video yet. If she was calling it on TikTok, Alex Cooper didn't put it anywhere else. Yeah, she's gotta respond on TikTok. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all going down on TikTok. It's all going down on, you know what, Noah texted me on the side yesterday and goes, I can't help but see the parallels between Drake and Kendrick. No, I was literally like, It's like Cooper and Earl. But it's really not like, you know what, we have to start doing Cooper and Earl because I'm going firstie lassie. Lex and Licks. I see people trying to do that too. Yeah, I see Lex and Licks. I know, I like Cooper and Earl because it kind of sounds like a law firm. Like, you know, like an injury law firm. Oh, you had an accident? Call Cooper and Earl. That's all the funniest things you've ever said. Oh my God. They're available for all your accident coverage. We gotta make a whole jingle for them. Yeah, yeah. One, 800 Cooper and Earl. Yeah, the Earl is serious. What is that actually a jingle for? Seleno and Barnes, injury attorneys. But we just did that Stanley Steamer. Yeah, yeah, Stanley Steamer. Cause I was like, we just did one, 800 Steamer. Like one, 800. Seleno and Barnes, injury attorneys. Cooper and Earl, injury attorneys. Call 293-860. Or does that sound too much? That's not the number, but that wouldn't be enough numbers. Cooper and Earl is Cooper and Earl. Or it could be like a general store. Cooper and Earl's. Right, right, right. Let's see, we're headed down to C&E's. That would be like a good merch, honestly. Yeah, yeah, Cooper and Earl. Like general store, like Cooper and Earl. Yeah, that'd be cool. Cooper and Earl's a cute name if Alex Earl's ever like thinking about potential boy names. I think Cooper's probably out of the mix. That's off the list. Cooper and Earl. Cooper. Cooper. Cooper. That's so, I watched the first episodes of Your Friends and Neighbors. So I have that in my head. Cooper. Cooper. My God, you were right. James Maher, I mean. You're right. I mean, it's without fail. This is. The guy steals the show. And neither of you told me that it was like a potential love situation with Olivia Munn and him. I didn't want to spoil anything, but literally like within the first two minutes of introducing his character, he's, Olivia Munn's riding away in his car. Yeah, I'm like, it can't get hotter than those two. Sometimes the side characters. Wait, you think it can't get hotter than James Marsden and Olivia Munn? Oh my God, James Marsden and Olivia Munn's so hot. So hot. Like to me, I'm not. Oh, so hot. I, you know, I'm not having that. You know, James Mars is my guy. Are they the two hottest people on that show? Yes. Are you saying he's huge cross on Amanda P? I do think Amanda P is gorgeous. Are we forgetting about John Hamm's ginormous cock? No, no, I'm not. I'm just kidding. I only, I need to say that I only said that for shock value. Yes, yes, yes. I would never say the C word in front of, in front of you guys like that. Wait, am I forgetting something? Like, is that like a no thing? I feel like we've gone over this. John Hamm's ginormous. Like, how do people know about that? It's photographic evidence. Well, he went nude in a movie or? No, no, no, it's when you can look through the pants. He's actually never gone nude. No, he's never gone nude, but my God, you can see the print. The print is out of this world. That's like John Hamm's. Hamilton. John Hamm's known for his big ham. Yeah. You've never seen the picture? No, I haven't seen the picture. Listen, this is going to be really degrading, but look up John Hamm's dick on Google. Cockered. Cock might bring you to a different site. Dick will bring you the print. The first of that comes up is New York Post. John Hamm dresses the penis thing. No underwear rumor. Yes, John Hamm was a name for his penis. He was a wear and underwear around town. He was talking about Andy Cohen about it. And his pants. Wow. Congratulations, John. It's like, you know how Superman can see through. That's what it feels like. Like it's so, what kind of pants are those? That's why everyone thought he wasn't wearing underwear. Next week, Noah was like, you know what? John Hamm does carry this shirt. That's why I was kind of shocked that you were just like throwing John Hamm to the side. I never. Is that James Marsden's like the big thing? I mean, I'm just going off charisma. Right, but John Hamm has charisma. John Hamm has a lot of charisma. The pictures really are insane. John Hamm's like. Went into the mic. Oh my God, I wish we could go back like two minutes ago and I could take back saying ginormous cock. Ginormous cock. Yeah, I wish I could take that back. Cut that out. But I will say, like I'm not like, whoo, hot and steamy over James Marsden and Olivia Mon. I was, I really, I was like, that's it. That's it. That's a great duo. I think they're two different types of like James Marsden will like woo you. I feel like John Hamm is just kind of relying on like cool. I'm cool guy, John Hamm. Relying on his. Yeah. Enough. It's not nice. I mean, why would he have a problem with it? You hyping him up like that. You know, no one likes to be talked about that way. It just feels the worst thing. It feels. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It feels degrading, you know. Yeah. Yeah. The rules were reversed. Well, I feel like. Yeah, John Hamm's like Rhea with that big. Wait, he's on the podcast host with that giant fucking ass. He's on watch when I'm inside with Andy Cohen. He's like, wait, look it up. You didn't know Rhea had a fat ass. Oh, God. No, I actually think I thought they made a good couple on the show. Keep going back. I was. I was going back. Well, I laughed because I was watching with Joe and Joe was like, first of all, I said, James Marsden's in the new season. Like this would be great. And he was like, oh, great. And then he goes, oh, yeah, the guy from jury duty. And I went, I went, I'm sorry. We're describing James Marsden as the guy from jury duty. He's like, yeah. It was like not literally every other like I would put jury duty on like the bottom of the list of things that James Marsden is. The whole point of him being on jury duty was he was like a real star. Yeah. Oh, there he is. I was like naming all these other things that James Marsden is in. And like fresh. Oh, yeah, the guy from jury duty. I was like, I mean, yeah, but that's hilarious. Where would you say James Marsden's from? My I mean, my first thing I would I would say is like 27 dresses. Like 27 dresses goes number one. And then I'd probably go the notebook. Isn't it an Ellen enchanted? Enchanted for sure. Not. He's not an Ellen chanted. It's an enchanted. Oh, enchanted. Just enchanted. Ellen. Ellen chanted in half a way. Oh, I've seen it. And I'm not Ellen chanted. Hugh Hugh, Nancy. He's an adventurer's doomsday. Hugh, Hugh, Hugh, you dance. Hugh, that's his name, right? Claire Danes, his husband. Hugh, Nancy, you dance. That's his name, right? I have no idea. Hugh, Dan. Yeah, please look up Claire Danes, his husband's name is Dan. Yeah, thank you. That's his name. And then honestly, reasons he buys, I'd probably go Paradise. That's a pretty hilarious last name. I think I'm so high on that. Dancy? And also, his first name being Hugh. Hugh? Hugh, Nancy? Yeah. I wonder if anybody's ever laughed at Hugh Danes' name like this before. He's been around for a long time. I'm like dripping. Wait, he wasn't dead to me? Dripping swag. Dead to me is the big one. James Marzine died to me. He was in Westworld. I never watched Westworld. The notebook. Yeah, that was it. Anchorman. Was he an anchorman? The first anchorman? He's an anchorman, too. Yeah. Wasn't he in that superhero movie? It says he was in Avengers Doomsday. Yeah, he's. Oh, I'm missing his biggest one, X-Men. That's what I'm saying, superhero movie. He's Wolverine. No, no, no. He's Wolverine. Hugh's Sonic. Yeah, Sonic, obviously. Sonic. I mean, he made a lot of money from those ones. Lot of money. No, I'm thinking of Cyclops. He plays Cyclops in X-Men. Yes, yes. He was in 30 Rock. Yes. Zoolander. Very good in 30 Rock. He plays, I think he was a Liz Lemon boyfriend. No, he wasn't the first anchorman. Yeah, he was one of the rival news in the original Anchorman, I think. When they all meet up to fight, he's a small part, then. Yeah. Watched him on the time in Hollywood. Hairspray. What was he in? Corny Collins. Oh my god, Corny Collins. Corny Collins? He has quite a few. I'm still naming things that I would say before Jury Duty. What was he in once upon a... I don't remember him in the film. I don't remember him in that movie. He played a young Bert. Oh, was he playing Bert Reynolds in a TV show? Yes. Yes, when they're watching from home. When Leo's watching, I believe. Lots of X-Men stuff. Yeah. So yeah, hitting me with the guy from Jury Duty really. That's hilarious. Really made me laugh. But no, other than that, he is stealing the show in a good way. Why were we talking about? Because I said I was watching Your Friends and Neighbors because of Coop. His name is Coop, and we were talking about the law firm of Cooper and Earl. Right. Glad to circle back. Well, anyways. The law firm of Cooper and Earl. We should probably get into the rest of the topics. I guess we'll start off with that one. We're also going to be talking about Selena and Demi reuniting at Demi Lovato's first show and Joe Jonas came out. You kidding me? We got a Katy Perry follow up to the Ruby Rose story. And it seems like Chase from Mormon Wives was seen maybe having a little rendezvous with Halle Bachelder at Coachella. Yeah. And we have the popcorn. So let's get into it. This is my favorite time of day right now. When I get to crack open a Pepsi prebiotic cola, they have two flavors, the cherry vanilla and the original cola. They are so delicious. And they're only 30 calories. 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And now people have been waiting on the edge of their seat to find out what she's going to do, how she's going to reply. Dave made a video and said that he doesn't think that she's actually going to do anything because she's being sarcastic, being like, all right, I'm on it, girlfriend. But then Brianna Chicken Fry responded and said, is this shit? Yeah, Brianna responded and said, she's going to destroy her. So now that has me to believe that she is cooking up some sort of video. Yeah, I'm really not sure. I don't know if she's cooking up a video. I do kind of think that there is a, and Brianna's confirmed it too. She's like, she commented on our chicks in the office post of the original Alex Cooper video and wrote ew. And then someone on TikTok I saw made a video being like Brianna commented ew, but is the ew about Earl or is it about Cooper? And she commented Cooper, obviously. So she's made her stance pretty clear. However, I think that there is probably a bias on the Cooper side for Bri already, regardless of the fact that I, you know, her and Earl are friendly, but just solely from the shit with Grace. Right. Like, right. I just think like, I just kind of think already Bri like doesn't fuck with Cooper because of the Grace wanted to go work for her. Right. Oh, so there are levels to this shit. There are levels to the shit. Then a key, boom, climb up, rooftop. Okay, Hugh Dancy. No, there are definitely levels to this. We should just start singing levels at any time. There's a really layered story. This one is layered like a lasagna because there is more and more to come out. And really I'm just waiting on the edge of my seat. Like, I think we all are. I want to know what the response is. Overall, right now it seems like the internet is siding with Earl. Yeah. It's a resounding Earl. Yeah, resounding. It's like, but what was that TV show, My Life With Earl? Was that a show? My name is Earl. My name is Earl. My name is Earl. That was My Life With Earl. My life with Eric. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My name is Earl. My life with, not my life with Eric is life with Derek. And that one was suspicious because it was almost like the siblings were, the step siblings were, yeah, they were dating, right? Is that the thing? They like fell in love. They like flirted a lot. Wasn't it like the whole premise of the show? It was like My Life With Derek. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, oh my God, this shit heads step is like, I'm in love with them, but I like Derek. Yeah, yeah, I love it. Yeah, what are the rules on that? I don't know. I kind of think of the, like, It's definitely not okay. No, but like this, you know, Serena and, and, Chuck? No. Nate. Nope. What the fuck is Penn Bachelet's name? Dan. Dan, sorry, God. Dan Humphrey. Dan Humphrey. I didn't even watch the show. I know, I'm having a real brain fart today. I can only call people by their last names. So remembering people's first names is really tricky for me. Humphrey. When, when their parents were together. And I was like, oh, they were together, but then they weren't also dating. That was weird. There's something funky about that. You know? I feel like it's a no fly zone, but it happens. It happens. It does, it does, it does happen. You just think like eventually one of the couples needs to break up, but you just never, you just never know. But yeah, just think there's so many. Just think somebody out there right now is listening to this. And they're dating their steps. Their hats statistically, I think there's gotta be one. Yeah. Or it's like, I don't know, you grew up together, parents were married, maybe they got divorced. Now they're not together, but you're together. You're like, we spent so much time together. Yeah. Okay, anyways, my name is Earl. Yeah. Was the show. Yes, correct, correct. That was my least favorite show that my parents would watch. I'd never watched it. It was CBS, right? Yeah, it came on like after two and a half men. Right, right, right, right, right, yeah, yeah. You know, I don't know. This whole thing like the Earl, I don't think Alex Earl is going, I don't know, I just like don't think she's gonna post anything. I do, I think the video is coming. I think the video is coming Wednesday morning or Tuesday night, the podcast will be done. We'll have to wait till Friday to talk about it. I can feel it, I can feel what's gonna happen. She's gonna make a TikTok video, she's gonna lay it out, and then we will not hear from Alex Cooper. Yeah. I think it's gonna be like a one and done. Yeah, and I really, I know we just, I know we will hear from Alex Cooper, but from her video, she was like, I'm done with this. Unless you have something to say, so maybe she will respond. Alex Cooper's gonna pull like a drake and be like, drop, drop. Like yeah, I just. She's not posting, like. I'm just wondering, I do think she'll make a video. I just don't know how long this will go on for. People were fixated on the fact that it's Tuesday and Cooper still hasn't dropped her teaser for the Wednesday Call her Daddy episode. Because normally that happens. Maybe Alex is waiting to step on that. Normally that app happens on like Monday or Tuesday. She teases the Wednesday guest. And she hasn't shared anything. So people were like, holy shit, maybe that's also why it's Alex Ruhl. But the problem with that logic to me too is like, Earl's been shading her in the comments and reposts for months now. So it's like now there, that one last repost was the catalyst to having some sit down podcast thing. I just really don't, I just really don't see it. Cause that was like a really intense video to repost. You know, it wasn't like, I don't like Alex Cooper. I was like, she's an ambulance chaser and like praise on victims. Like in their most innocent times. So I saw this pop up on a thread. I don't have threads, but you know how threads pops up on your Instagram. Yeah, yeah. And the first thing that popped up was that people were pointing out that Alex Cooper was wearing nail polish in her picture from Coachella. I saw that. And then in the video she made, she wasn't wearing nail polish. Yeah. Did she take off her nail polish? Well, unfortunately, yeah, or it was pre-recorded and that does lend into the whole, this is fake situation. But I, it's not. Don't think it's fake. I don't think it is. She's not going on Caller Daddy today. Listen. Where are we gonna look dumb if she is? Egg on my face then. I'll eat it. But I do not think that is the case. I agree with you. What are they gonna, your hesitant to agree? No, I agree with you. I do. I don't think she's doing that. It wouldn't make any sense to me. What would be the drawing? Unless she's like coming back to her. I tell you, well, it just, it benefits, there's no benefit to Earl for doing that. None. Cooper and Earl. Injury, attorneys. Injury, attorneys. Okay, moving on while we wait. I bet like we'll be 50 minutes into this podcast and they'll say breaking news. I literally just thought about like faking it and getting a reaction to you. And I just, I still don't know. Oh, that would have been rude. Oh my God. Don't even. Don't even. We could tell cause it would, he would show more emotion faking it than he would if it really happened. You're so right. Like when the bachelorette was canceled, whoa, the bachelorette's canceled. Whoa, breaking news. Breaking news, bachelorette's canceled. Yeah, this would be like, whoa guys. You were like, holy shit, Alex Roll just posted. Yeah, yeah. And when in reality, if Alex Roll did post, no, it'd be like, oh shit, she posted. And I'm kind of invested in this way more than the bachelorette stuff. He was, he's texted me like, I'm trying to decide which one's Kendrick and Drake. I love a good beef. Who doesn't? Who doesn't? A one-day one beef is really. And one of the top, like this is like Kendrick and Drake. This is old school. Yeah, like this is rare. Yeah. It's rare, they have the same name. I did crack up a Justin. Thank God they're spelled differently. I know, I did crack up a Justin Silvester posting a video about past one-on-one beefs and all these things. He's like, this one's for the white women out there. So true. Who were fixated on Alex and Alex. Yes. Yeah, they got the same name. It's like, you can't make a movie about this. So many people thought that they were the same person. Did you see? He was concerning actually. I know, did you see, once again, always in the mix, but Harry Jowsy did post a funny tech talk of a picture of the three of them. Harry Jowsy's always at the scene of the crime. He's always in the scene of the crime. And why? When in doubt, Harry Jowsy's involved in some way. It's Harry Jowsy and Dave Pornoi. They're always in something somehow. 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Laying in bed, seeing Timmy Lovato's first show of the tour in Orlando. And there are a couple of videos being sprinkled around like, oh, look, it's Selena Gomez in the crowd. Okay, is it really? We haven't seen them interact in 20 years, could this be? It was. Selena Gomez attended Demi Lovato's first show of the tour. She posted all on her story. She posted such a sweet picture of them hugging. She posted, you know, Demi's vocals are insane. Pictures of her dancing in her merch. Like, this whole thing is so healing. And I truly thought to myself, what did we do to deserve this? Nostalgia is healing us right now. We're being served. And by the way, it's also paying. Nostalgia is paying as well, because clearly people know what it's doing. It's putting money in pockets and we're eating it up. So like, it's the best of both worlds. Got it. Totally. And I was talking to somebody in the DMs about this, that we're like really one step closer to getting a full Senate on reunion. If they can all get along, which it seems like they can. This seems like they can. They've all really been together in pieces. We just need to get Miley and the Jonas Brothers back together. Here's the thing, I think that Priyanka's too jealous for that. I think Priyanka does not want Nick to be in the room with Miley and Selena. But like Nick has, but it's like all of them. I know. I think that. You can make an argument for literally all of them. I think that Miley and Selena are touchy names in the brother's household. Maybe. I don't know. I'm just joshing. I mean, like I'm just. No, I know you're. I know you are. I know you are. But I'm actually thinking like I really do think that they would all do something. When's the 20th anniversary of? When did Send-On get made, do you think? Send it on. 20. On and on. 2008. Send-On was released on August 11th, 2009. Shit. So damn, that would be a lot of years to go for 20th. You'd have to make it all the way till 2009. That's enough. But here's the thing. I would say it's enough time for them to all make up, but it's enough time for them to fight again. Right, right, right. You know what I mean? Like right now they're good. Right. But who knows? Seeing with these people, these egos, this whole thing. No, I know. Personalities. It's hard to keep up. Like they could fight again in two months. I truly lost sleep over. Seeing this last night. Like I was laying in bed and I thought, I can't believe no one told me to be there for this. Like I was blaming other people. I was blaming people that it's not their fault to be like, they couldn't have given me a heads up about this. Because my God, seeing Joe Jonas and Demi Lovato sing on the line in the year of our Lord, 2026. And no one thought, we got to get Fran a heads up on this one. I, Cynthia Rivo didn't know that was happening. Like I didn't know that was even an option ever to be had. I was like, oh, you know, we went to MetLife. We got to see them do the Camp Rock stuff. But like Demi's old album stuff, they're not going to pull back into that because that's, that's deed, that's unturned waters. Right, right. The Jornis Brothers helped make a lot of that first album. We're talking about Paul Jonas having to have a sit down with Demi Lovato. You know, like that's, that was a touchy time. We're going deep. And when I played that video and heard the opening, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo. You got to be fucking kidding me. It wasn't right. It was not right that there was no warning. I, and the way I would have been on a plane to Orlando so fast. And here we thought that we were potentially friends with Demi. That's no friend. A friend would have warned us. Demi just be like, someone let Rianne friend know I'm singing on the line tonight. Yeah, like please, for the love of God, they will not consider me a friend unless I tell them. No, I could, I really couldn't believe it. Gia had texted me and Claire, who we've been singing that song for since the day it came out. It's one of our favorites. And in the moment, I was like, no, I actually can't believe Demi's management didn't text me. OK, Diva. I'm like, we follow each other on Instagram. Give me the fucking heads up. Shit. I was laughing. I mean, I was just happy to see Celine. I went, oh my god, that's so sweet. Celine is there to support, giving her props for her vocals. And by the way, not to rehash this whole situation, because I'm done talking about it. But I was thinking as I was watching clips from her tour that if Demi Lovato was stripped down microphone, nothing else, and just sang her goddamn heart out, it would be the best thing I've ever created. Yeah, by the way, that's all she needs. Yeah, that is all she needs. She's raw talent. She is such an incredible voice. And it made me think of the Justin Bieber stuff, because I was just like, I would pay bajillion dollars to see her in a full acoustic nothing, like just Demi and a mic. Me too. Oh, god. And how she would take down that shit. It would be unbelievable. But that girl loves to perform. We had the dancers, the outfits, the costumes, the whole thing. It was so much fun. I love seeing the clips and videos her made. I really hope that we can find a way to get to a show or something. It's just she's incredible. And I just warmed my heart to see Selena there and see them hugging. I just was like, that was really nice. And I feel like a lot of girls can relate to having that really intense best friendship from their teenage years. And shit happens. You grow apart. You do all those things. But sometimes you just need one thing or one event that brings you back together. And you look at each other and you go, oh, that stupid shit really doesn't matter now. Like we're at that age. We're happy. We're married. We're living our best lives. We feel good right now. All that shit that happened when we were 18, 19, 20, like let's let that shit go. We all feel good right now. And they could just support each other. Exactly. And I feel like that's kind of what they did. Or that's how I imagined it going. I picture that happening. I picture that conversation a long hug. And they're committed to staying in touch. And hey, I'm doing a tour if you want to come. And she says I'd love to. And she really does come and sit in the box and cheer on. I'll need to see a picture of them in Sushi Park. I know. You know what I mean? Like at dinner. Yeah. The whole thing. And papped. What is that, by the way, Sushi Park? Why does it from go there? No, I know. But it's like a mall, isn't it? Yeah, it's a restaurant across from the laundry. We've passed it a million times. No, I know. But is it that good? Like it's a mall. I do think people love it. It has to be good if these A-listers are going to a mall. And by the way, don't knock it because it's in a mall. Something about though that it makes it feel less. Don't knock it because it's in a mall. Also, think about how most, I feel like so many areas in LA, especially, are like strip malls. Yeah, and I feel like that sometimes has the most authentic sushi. Sushi Park kind of sounds like a fast food place. Yeah, but they got fresh ass sushi there. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And they love it. I don't know. We've never, we've never gone. We've never gone. No. I've been having an issue with sushi lately. Oh, had it last night. Yeah. I'm not, you know, I don't even really want to talk about it that much because it makes me sad. OK. But it's been making my tummy hurt every time I eat it. Oh, god. I know. You got to get the frox from Sushi Park. I know. Even the place I go to in New York is so great, but it's just not. And in the moment, so delicious. Oh, I'm sorry. My issue with the Shake Shack Burger on the Delta Fries. Here we go with that damn Shake Shack Burger that always makes your stomach hurt. And I got to tell you every time not to get it. Yeah, but in the moment, it just tastes so damn good. That's the feeling I've been having with sushi. Anyway, it was, it was like lay awake and stare at the ceiling type of moment. And it was kind of late when this was all coming out. And I was posting on my story. And then I started getting angry because not enough people were replying or engaging with my story. I'm like, people aren't freaking out enough about this. Like, I was expecting my DMs to be like, holy shit, I can't believe it. And when I went to bed, I was like, not enough people are, not enough people are freaking out about this. I kind of had the same reaction. I was like, wait, people aren't going crazy over this? Like, I am. And not that. And I couldn't really see the whole venue. And I'm not trying to judge really by any means. But just crowd reaction from watching. I watched like 80 different point of views of this moment of Joe and Demi singing the song. And I'm looking at the crowd and, you know, people are saying that their their phones out there singing along. And I don't blame them. You want to capture that video. That's one that you do play your phone out for. But I would have maybe collapsed to the ground. Like, the way I would have like probably would be looking like I'm having a episode in the crowd just purely from that. Laura replied to my story and was like, you would have had a, like you would have gone into cardiac arrest. People aren't reacting big enough for Joe Donis for my liking lately, just in general. So true. He swims here. It's like, are you kidding me? Give the man the respect he deserves. He really does. And his voice only gets better and better. He's such a good singer. When Demi Lovato came out during the Met Lifestyle for the Joe Donis brothers, I fell to the ground. 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Right, this is a sticky situation because obviously you want to believe people and believe Ruby Rose because it was such an insane story, but also if it's not true, then if you're Katy Perry and Katy Perry's team, you're like, excuse me? This is quite the outrageous lie. She was never gonna do anything other than deny this. No, of course, of course. But I think there's a certain level of like, there's a certain level of denial that you can pull off. Like sometimes you get a, you get a, sometimes you get a denial that's like, no. That's not true. A quiet denial? Yeah, it's a quiet denial and you're like, ooh, suspicious. You know. But she said, they put the board vehemently in there. So it's gotta be true. Yeah, they did, vehemently deny, yeah, right. I gotta say, I never like ever look at the comments on TMZ, but I just scrolled to the bottom of the article because I was trying to see the rest of it. No, please, don't give us the comments from TMZ, Fran, please. It's a shame that the great American astronaut, Katy Perry, has been caught up in such a scandal. Okay, well, that one's funny. That's it, I wanted to read, I hope there was something terrible I wanted to read it. Well, just a little follow up on that because you got a follow up from Monday's story. Right, because it's like, yeah, that, we mentioned that what Ruby said, but we gotta include that Katy saying it's not true. And then lastly, this man chase, found the Mormon wives, was seen apparently kissing influencer Halle Bachelder. In Coachella, in Coachella, at Coachella, on the grounds. I just, I don't get it, man. This is one of those, it's not even like a big story or really anything, it's just one of those, like, I do not get it, man. Yeah, I also loved that on Instagram. It was like, what did I send it to you guys? But was it, what was it, page, no, or people or something? I'm trying to think of where I sent the, like I sent a link to the post. Oh, it was people. This really made me laugh, because it was like a People magazine article that said Mormon wives chase, how do you say his last name, McHorder? Yeah, McHorder. He's got a whore in his name like that. Yeah. Is that why they all make, I guess I don't even really think, she's McHorder. McHorder, why they make all those jokes. Makes out with Halle Batchelder at Coachella. And the caption said that they were getting hot and heavy at Coachella. A rep for Chase confirmed to people that he and Batchelder shared a kiss at the festival and hung out together multiple times throughout the weekend, which gave me a giggle, because I'm like, oh, he had his rep personally confirmed that there was a make out. The rep's just Chase. Yeah, the rep's him. The rep's just Chase being like, yeah, we did. Yeah, hell yeah. I do kiss and tell. And they're commenting on all each other's stuff. She posted a bunch of pictures from Coachella and he commented, Ellie, I all why. I feel like Halle is the type to just fuck around with this though. Like it's not like she's like, actually, oh, I'm gonna date this Chase guy. Ray, it sounds like they've already got some inside jokes. Yeah, I mean. He commented, diet starts today. It's just, he scares me. Yeah, look at them fucking wrapped around each other sitting down. He scares me in the way that it seems like he is fondling with everybody. Well, yeah, you know, he is kissing. Oh, he's kissing. He's kissing. He's kissing. He's kissing, period. One thing I know about Chase. He's kissing. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know if he's clean. Well, he's kissing everybody. Yeah, I don't, yeah, it's. So it seems. It's a lot. If you are available for a kiss, he'll find you. I don't even know if people can see how a hard frame was laughing at herself. Well, I don't even know what that means. Watch out. It came out of my mouth and I was like, what, what? That's creepy. But my God, I mean, be able to look out of here in Salt Lake City. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'll be walking down the streets. You see. Covering your mouth. Yeah. Stay away. No kisses. Yeah. No kisses for you. No kisses. I don't know what that deal is, but he, and you know what? He knows how to find like the woman of the hour. He knows how to find the, find the ic curls. People, people are talking about, they follow their lives. They want to know what's going on. Everyone loves hearing Halle's like dating stories and hookup stories and all these things. And Chase is like, yeah, I'm a B. I'm next. Yeah. He's like, he actually wants to be included. For sure. Like for him, Harry, Jowsey and Wes. Yeah. They like, they want to be included in people's lives. Like they want to do the makeup. They want to do the makeup and then they want to be in the tech talk about the makeup. Yes. And like confirming in the comments. Like, yes, that was me. A rep for McWhorter confirms there was a smooch at Coachella. Chase is on the phone with TMZ. We sure did. We sure did. It's like in Spider-Man where he's like getting pictures of Spider-Man, but he is Spider-Man. Yes. Yes. Oh, exactly. All right. That wraps up the topics. Okay. We're going to get into the popcorner, but this is actually so fun. Truly just dropped their limited edition 24 ounce wild berry cans and they're not just drinks. They are basically collectibles. Each can is designed around a different city. So it's very cute, unique, and also a little competitive. Like you kind of want to find them all and collect them. And if you do collect the full set, you can enter to win an exclusive US soccer merch, which is pretty cool. So you get exclusive US soccer. You get these really cool cans. I got this Boston one in my hand. Fran and I played a little bit of trivia on our chicks in the office page. You could watch that with the truly cans. So it's really fun to collect them all. 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And when I think of euphoria, I think of Labyrinth and I think they're synonymous. But Hans Zimmer's score is really killing it. Now don't get me wrong, I don't think that after watching the first episode, this season is, I mean, it's going to be disappointing. However, the music really didn't match the vibe and kind of let me down. And again, love the guy. So let me know your thoughts and love you guys so much. Love you, thank you for a second. Love you. I thought. For a second I thought she was like calling us out on something. Like when she was like one of the biggest flops by you and I was like, oh no. That was gonna be about us. By you, Euphoria. By you, dancing. I went to look it up because I thought, I remember this coming out. They treated Labyrinth like shit. So they didn't want to do it. She dropped a new song at nine p.m. when the new episode aired the other night. That's the kind of petty shit I like to see on the interwebs. Yep, so Labyrinth, the night before the HBO series and the third installment premiered, Labyrinth took to social media to further explain why his music won't be presented this time around. People comfortably lie in this industry and still call themselves honest people. He wrote in a since expired message to his Instagram story. So no cap, I decided to remove whatever music I had in it. I spoke to HBO as far as I know we are cool. He said, I left because last truth, when I work for someone, their vision is paramount to me, but I don't let people treat me like shit. E news reached out to HBO. Yeah, Sam Levins, it fucking blows. Like it's like no one has really a good thing to say besides like two people. Yeah, no one's ever like he's the best. And Labyrinth is like, yeah, they treated me like shit. So I didn't want to do the show anymore. And their loss, I mean, Sam Levins has driven his own show into the ground. Yeah, he seems to do that often. But I will say though, I'm totally with you. They were great. I'm actually having a flashback right now. I'm having a flashback. I wasn't going to say it, but I'm having a flashback of when we had Sidney Sweeney on our show in Zoom. Yeah, COVID. COVID, she was talking about Labyrinth and I thought she was talking about the David Bowie song. And I'm getting secondhand embarrassment mid conversation right now. But moving along. It took you six years to come forward and say that right now. But like, can you just? She really was it at the time. I remember I said it at the time. But now, you know, when you like it shivers down your spine of like an embarrassing thing that you did, that it's happening to me in this very moment. Watching the episode though, I didn't notice. And I also had no idea Hans Zimmer was doing the music. So honestly, good get. But he is certainly a good get. Hans Zimmer is the best. I didn't really notice the music. Although I noticed Labyrinth not being in it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I will say you're very right in the fact that like they go hand in hand. You know, like his music really made those first seasons. You think about those scenes and the music plays in your head. Well, now it's like with the white lotus coming back and there's a different composer for that. What's up with composers and these beefs? Mm, shit. Everyone's in day I came out at Coachella. Yeah, with Labyrinth. I'd have to imagine that that can be like a sticky situation. It's like when you mix musicians with creatives and like the director has a certain vision or the creator has a certain vision. But like a musician's like, nah, I'm going to go with what? Like I know music, you don't, you know? And then they butt heads. Yeah, I can see that. That's what I imagine. Totally. Hi, Rhea Fran and Noah. This is Sarah from Boston. I have a question about the new theories. The city with the trailer that got dropped. It's more of like a what's your opinion on this? I saw an interview with Carl that he was not asked to do the city. And I thought that was weird after not seeing him in the trailer at all. He mentioned maybe because they didn't want to have him being single on the show as a plot line, but I also think it's weird that Lindsay is technically single on the show. I thought the whole point of the show was to kind of take on no offense to them, but like the older crowd of Summer House and see where they are in their careers in the city. And having Carl not there is weird, especially with him opening up soft bar and just kind of going on his whole journey throughout the show. Just kind of like leaving him in the dust kind of. I don't know. I thought it was weird and I was very surprised by not seeing him in the trailer and just want to know your opinions. Thanks. Love you guys. Bye. Love you. I would have loved to have seen Carl be involved in this, but. I'm under the impression that in the city is like a Lindsay Hubbard production. You know what I'm saying? Like this is like her friend. Yeah, like Lindsay is the centerpiece of this. Everyone's sort of an extension of Lindsay. Like everybody knows Lindsay. Right. And I feel like then you just can't have Carl be a part of that. And yeah, she just doesn't want. I'm sure she doesn't want him to be like, hey, I actually don't want my ex fiance to be on this show too. And if she was sort of spearheading a lot with this, because it's like, yeah, then you have Kyle Amanda, Amanda is her friend, but then you have Lindsay's friends. I do feel like there is a world where it's like Lindsay is at that center. And I think if anything, Lindsay probably pushed really, really hard for this show and was the most in charge when it came to like cast members being involved with what it was going to be and how they wanted to look. I'm sure she was like, I don't want Carl in it. Yeah, I think I honestly don't think it's anything deeper than. Yeah, like, and I don't know. I'm just that could be totally false. And maybe everyone didn't want Carl in it. But it's like a fresh start for everybody. The back and forth between Lindsay and Carl, something that we've seen so much on Summerhouse and while, yes, we are getting that with Kyle and Amanda. They're starting the show still technically married. Right. So I feel like it's different than putting exes on already that are now single when we've already seen all that drama play out. And there's not literally much more to like juice out of that besides being like, oh, now they're sort of friendly when they see each other. Yeah, I agree. Hi, guys, my name is Kate. I'm from Philly and I just want to weigh in on the Alex Cooper, Alex Earl situation. I think Alex Cooper is desperately trying to stay relevant and shift everyone's attention from her dumb ass show. She put out because it's getting so much backlash because she has two offenders on the show, AKA Dakota and Huda. And her only relevancy right now is Alex Earl. Like, why else would she even post about it? She never puts about anything and she always prides herself on like not caring and just like never addressing anything because it's not worth it. And she's a bigger person and blah, blah, blah. But now she doesn't want to address Huda and Dakota being on her stupid show. And I think that's shitty of her. And I'm an Alec girl stand till I die. But I want to know your guys' opinion on this. I didn't watch the episode. Yeah, I think I had to work, unfortunately, but I'm about to weigh in. But I'm interested to see what Alex Earl comes out like and says back to her. So we'll see. But I just hate Alex Cooper, I think. But love you guys. Bye. Love you. Are we all here? It's kind of wild. Yeah. Yeah. This breakdown is crazy. It was wild that there was no talk of the Dakota Huda anything. Of the Unwell Games. But then she makes a video about this. Like that is that is pretty well. That rub me the wrong way, too. And I can see that that's like that thought popped in for a lot of people as well. It's like, oh, you can make a video about the Alex Earl stuff, but you can't say like, hey, everyone, we've seen this stuff about Dakota. We've decided to proceed with the show or any like address it in some way. But instead, just one with doing nothing. And then this happens. And you feel like you have to say something. When another girl is coming at you. I don't know. It's just very interesting. And I think timing wise. That doesn't help Cooper's case, because it's like people have already been worked up about the Unwell Games stuff. And she actually said in her video that Alex was using this to distract people from her stuff, where it's like she didn't acknowledge. Right. Which is interesting because like, yeah, Alex Earl has had things pop up here or there, but current time right now, if you were to like to take the pulse of everybody last week, they're all fallen on Earl's side than Cooper's right now. Because I feel like with that stuff, everyone, that people don't feel good about the Unwell Games stuff. So picking this time to post this video to Alex Earl is interesting because you're not going to get the fan backup that maybe you would have gotten if it was a different time. But yeah, it is a very interesting study on what happens to people in the media who have been at the tippy tippy top. And when you're so, so, so mega popular and then people turn on you. And right now, Alex Earl is still in those beginning stages where everybody fucking loves her and she can do no wrong. And that's how everybody feels about it. And at a time, you know, I do feel like Alex Cooper had that where everybody was like, yes, boss bitch, love it. Go, go, go. And now that narrative's kind of changed, which is, it's just interesting. It's like, why, why is that? Really? It goes in waves, you know, and I, but I will say, I don't think, I don't think Alex Cooper is irrelevant, you know, like I don't think she's irrelevant at all. Not even a little bit. Yeah. So. Extremely relevant. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. All right, let's do one more. This episode is brought to you by Noble, Barstool's favorite footwear brand. Noble is a brand known for their best in class footwear and they're everywhere right now walking around New York City at the airport, walking the dog wherever I go. I've actually seen so many people wearing Noble t-shirts when we've been in and out of the airport and I got my sneaks on right now. I'm wearing them. I got the journey twos that are launching their new daily runner. They are so comfortable. I've been wearing them all day. They have so many cute styles and colors. They can look good, casual, sporty, dressed up. 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So they're wanting us to get to know them, but I have no desire to get to know them. Really don't care at all. So interested in your thoughts. Thanks. Bye. I'm with you. I don't have any interest either. And I think, but I think that this is their way of being like nobody got to meet us. Like, obviously the guys on the show are going to try to have people know them from the show. Right. I think they're just trying to throw these guys a bone here. Yeah. They thought that they were getting, you know, their little slice of fame and they're not. So I think they're like, all right, let's see what you got and see if it sticks with anybody. But I don't think people are that interested. Yeah, I'm I'm with you on that. I do think like they've lost a lot of ad revenue and there's one thing it's like, hey, we're going to lose the podcast ad revenue too. Like we're putting out some sort of season for the podcast. Let's talk to these guys. I know that it said that they are all eligible to be on like a season of Bachelor in Paradise. So that could be something. But I don't know what right now, like it just feels the future of the franchise in general is just so up in the air across the board. So that's what feels so iffy. But yeah, they say like, hey, we're filming a paradise season and you're going to a lot of these guys can go on it. Then yeah, maybe people will be more interested. But no, I saw some rumors that these guys wanted to like Sue ABC or like all these things. So it's I'm sure it's some way of being like, hey, we're going to try and put you guys out there and let people get to know you. And maybe this will help with whatever you want to do or being on paradise. If that's an option down the line. But yeah, it's unfortunate because it's like no one really is going to want to care that much because then it's like also we don't even know how far these people go. Right. We're just like meeting random guys. It's almost like we're speed dating. Yeah. Yeah. And not interested. Yeah. Yeah. All right. That wraps up today's popcorn or keep calling in with your hot takes or voicemails and your opinions. That wraps up today's episode of Chicks in the Office. Thank you so much for watching and listening. We love you guys so very much. And we'll talk to you on Friday. Look at the charts. Who does it the best to chicks getting paid in reality checks? You can find them at the gym. It's not even a flex. Last minute red carpet flew him out on the jet. Yeah, they're who you want to be. They're always on your screen to Queens and they might be spilling royalty. A lot of topics that are popping here to get into. I know a show that you probably want to listen to. Turn the heat up. Turn the beat up. Record the pod. Made a bag with their feet up. The ones that leave no crumbs when they clean up. Who's the pod that they all want to meet up? Who turned the heat up? Turn the beat up. Record the pod. 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