Hour 2: HIT IT, BRUCE! (feat. Walmart Austin Butler)

This is the Don Levittar Show with this two-guts podcast. Make sure to get me that mad dog sound so I could get to it before the end of this hour. But we've got someone here who might even be funnier than mad dog sound he's buzzed about, right? He's the comedian right now that is super hot and he's selling out shows on his national tour. Look at zelnic.com if you want full tour dates and tickets. Thank you for joining us Lucas. I appreciate it and I'm wondering on your career path here, what made you more nervous the first time you did stand up or when you told the people who love you that you wanted to be a comedian for a living? You know what I think I made the right call and I didn't tell the people who love me that I wanted to be a comedian till after I'd done a fair amount of stand up. Oh okay so you weren't, was it because you weren't sure that you wanted to do it as a career you weren't sure you weren't sure what they'd say. It's just like being a comedian is kind of like being gay like you want to really make sure you are before you go out and tell a friend you are. That's wrong with it if you're sure but you don't want to you don't have to walk that one back. So how long did you go before you like how much doubt was there before you realize no I'm going to go ahead and try and make a go of this and I can make a go of it successfully. Honestly it was like two probably two years which I think makes it different from the gay analogy. I think if you try to be gay for two years you'd probably know pretty quickly but comedy I don't know because the pandemic really changed how comedy was working so I just didn't know if it was going to be like a career path. I know I know I liked it but I was pretty bad when I started too so I just wasn't sure. So where and when did crowd work make an appearance on the popularity scale because crowd work is now and I know comedians have different opinions about this but it's just a chance to be clever very quickly the way you've probably been all your life whenever you discovered funny right and so it's being rewarded and it seems to also be changing the game and some older comedians seem to not respect crowd work very much because they think it's a little bit lazy or whatever but you're exceptional at it. Well everyone does it a little bit in like an hour long set you know even if they don't mean to it's just like if you're doing a live set for an hour at a comedy club you usually end up riffing or talking to someone for some amount of it and you usually people don't you know completely ignore the live element of the show for a full hour but I think yeah people I think older comedians certainly don't respect the way in which new comedians are using it as clickbait to draw people out to shows I always had like a natural knack for it and it did start from being bad at comedy and not being able to do my jokes which is the that's the knock on crowd work it's like oh these are for guys that don't have good jokes it was for me in the beginning now it is I think my act is a lot stronger so I don't have to do it if I don't want but you know I enjoy doing 10 15 minutes of it if I'm doing an hour set anyway no one needs more than 45 minutes of jokes so but I realized I was good at it truly because I think I was people started to give me more time up there and I didn't have the goods for it so I it is kind of the negative stereotype like I was like oh I guess I'll just make fun of some guy in the front row you know and then and then I did that and that worked for me so then I that's but that all happened around 2021 and I think that kind of coincided with the moment that a lot of people were on TikTok discovering stand-up comedy a lot of people that you know the pandemic was happening they'd never been to a live show maybe they were young maybe they were under 21 you know when when the pandemic started and then all of a sudden you know they they could go to a live show when when it ended so I got very lucky with that timing and that kind of people were really eating it up on the internet back then and that's when I started posting it it's interesting to me the role that social media has played when it comes to comedians who tore like yourself because comedians will post crowd work on social media clips because they don't want their material to be out there and you could see funny little snackable bites of crowd work and then I wonder do you do you get people at shows who maybe aren't regular as that comedy shows who see these clips and they think it's like a normal thing for the crowd just to be interacting with the comedian all show yeah it's possible I don't I you know it as long as everyone's respectful I don't really mind what they are expecting coming in I deliver what I want to deliver and I understand that not everyone's gonna want to come back you know um if someone's bothering me or heckling me I just shut it down right then and there you know and I'll have the club be pretty tight on it people in general get the vibe I think that they know that there's a difference between sort of being disruptive and interacting with me and I think sometimes people will leave the show and say I wish there was more crowd work because I don't do that much of it and other times people will go wow um you know I'm so glad I came because I didn't know if you had any jokes and then I saw the show and I love your jokes well I'm looking for those people because that's gonna be what I do moving forward like the more experience you get as a comedian the more terrifying crowd work becomes when you're really bad crowd work makes a lot of sense because you're like anything's better than these terrible jokes that I've written about Hitler but then you get you know you get older into it and once you have good jokes it's like you understand that crowd work is a risk because it's not always funny and if you write good jokes those usually are funny at least more consistently than the crowd work so these days I do a lot more jokes just because I think the jokes are better than you know the average result I'll get from doing crowd work but crowd work's so fun and then every once in a while it's like it can be pretty magical when whatever set of circumstances line up you know when multiple people have something in common or someone's got a crazy story when that kind of stuff happens it can be the highlight and then I for sure what's the best chump for crowd work you walk out on stage is it an overly confident guy is it a meek person what's the person like you're walking out on stage and you're like oh I'm gonna hammer this person I always start with a dude because it's easier to be me into a dude yeah you know what I mean like pretty much I hate to go back to this but pretty much calling a guy like a straight dude gay is pretty much always just gonna be a museum um calling a gay dude gay not as funny I've found out actually a hate crime but uh but that that's like where I start but a lot of the time the things that I get known for are interacting with people that maybe like people are more sensitive around maybe a different a different type of group whether that's you know someone of a different race or gender orientation or sexuality I typically have a skill in sort of like walking down a road that's gonna make people nervous that's gonna make people think I'm gonna say something really bad and then kind of subverting that expectation so I like that but I do think it's not for the uh week of constitution because you gotta trust me and also you know not be I like to treat everyone like they're normal people so you know some people do have the view that you can't treat certain people the same way as other people I don't really subscribe to that for the most part um so if people don't like that that's uh yeah that that can be an issue how often does it happen and how annoying is it when you point at somebody in the audience and their response is to obviously try to be funnier than you defensive it works you always gotta listen to the audience if the audience can get a bigger laugh than you can't be the guy who's like well that wasn't funny like you listen to the audience um I always listen to the audience for everything so like the audience doesn't really know this but like they kind of control the show in that they sort of play me like a puppet like I just follow their laughter so if it's jokes and then I start doing crab work and they don't laugh I stay away from crab work if it's crab work and they're not laughing at the jokes I'll lean into that um if you know if the audience loves someone that you know even if they're kind of annoying me I'll give it at least a chance to try and grow on me so I don't ever try to be the guy that's like you know I think the worst comedians you'll ever see are sort of in denial because they have an agenda up there that's separate from what the audience is picking up I don't really believe in that so it's like if some dude makes some dumbass comment and can I curse on you yeah the way you're describing this though is sort of zen right you're you have to have real confidence to lay back and allow the audience to lead you yeah I guess it's either confidence or it's just like I don't know you can't you know I've done this enough now where you just got to know how to not swim against the current too much because you're being perceived by all these people and I don't know that that I think the thing that I always hated about stand-up comedy growing up like when I saw it live because I grew up in New York City so every once in a while I'd go you know there's so much stand-up in New York that you could maybe like walk by a comedy club and pop your head in especially as a teenager and then like you know not at the comedy seller where you see professional great comedy but like when I went to like an open mic night the biggest thing I remember noticing was like this guy on stage has no clue what the people in the audience think is funny and he almost seems resentful that like the people in the audience think something's different you know something different's funny than what he wants to make funny so when I became a comedian it was pretty important to me and I didn't get it right I still don't always get it right but it was pretty important to me to have a better connection with the audience that way like you know if the audience wants something you you're an entertainer you give them that you give them what they want for the most part now you you want to take them to interesting places like you don't want to just listen to what they want all the time you want to try and push them a little bit but if you're getting pushed back you got to listen to that so you know when someone's funnier than me I guess like I just let them be that for as long as they can and then I'll comment on that but I try to comment on what I perceive the reality to be in the room when I'm commenting on it and if I want to be doing jokes I'll be doing jokes if someone's interrupting that that's a problem I've never had it happen that someone's being like really disruptive and annoying and the audience likes them better than me but if that happened I guess I'd be in it I'd be in a bit of an impasse there that wouldn't mean I'm probably really bombing like the audience usually takes your side unless you're bombing you know your bombing heart how does the feeling of killing a show compare to the feeling of bombing like which outweighs the other oh bombing so much so much stronger than killing because at this point killing I mean it you know you're you're ceiling what you to think is a kill always changes the same with a bomb by the way like you know when you're starting out you you know what you think as a kill would probably now be a bomb for me all these years later but killing feels like the job you know what I mean like if I kill if it's a really great set I obviously have fun I feel good about it I'm happy but I'm like yeah I delivered what these people paid to come see if I bomb I have like a crisis of identity because I'm like you know I'm trying to think of like I guess you know with all entertainment you're always taking the risk that you could go see it and it's gonna be bad you know you buy a movie take it maybe it's bad but there's something that feels so profoundly like I cheated these people if I really bomb I'm just like damn because sometimes they pay a lot of money or they drive a long way you know what I mean and so to just like totally bomb it's like it doesn't feel anywhere nearly like it feels so much more bad than a kill when's the last time it happened to you when's the last time you feel like you or the worst of the bombs as you recall them most recently uh in Philly like two weeks ago there was actually someone that was really disruptive and they weren't uh they were just kept heckling my set and I wasn't getting much help from the club staff taking care of them they also weren't being funny also they were the worst kind of heckler someone that says it quietly so like you can hear it it's like disrupting your flow from the front row but not everyone in the room can hear it so you don't know exactly how to address it and then you're just getting like annoyed the biggest thing is like if I'm getting annoyed I really try not to show it up there because that's like not fun for anyone like a like I don't always want to be up there but it's like that's no one wants to hear that like all these people that you know paid from so it's like if you're pissed off up there you better not show it because that's that is not what these people paid to see so it was one of those nights where I was getting pissed off and you know um and I just that night I think the biggest thing was like I lost the desire to try and do anything possible to make the audience happy because I was getting so annoyed I was like screwed I'm just gonna like stick to the script a little bit so I just kind of did my jokes with like not a great amount of you know umph and I just got off but like usually if something's not working I try a few little forks in the road to try and wiggle it into a kill you know if you're not connecting right up front I try and make sure that by the end of the set it's really killing but sometimes I just don't I'm like something pisses me off that I don't care enough to try and give these people a good which is that's that's a me problem I present them I resent me I'm leaving now I'm gonna do the rest of my material leave the stage LucasLnick.com is where you go if you want tour dates and tickets this episode is sponsored by BetterHelp march is one of those months where we talk about celebrating women and it's very very deserved because when you actually look around a lot of women in our lives are carrying a ton work family relationships expectations nobody notices or sees I start thinking about the women around me my wife my mom my sister my friends my co-workers people who somehow take care of everybody else while still trying to hold it together themselves and it's a ton to carry therapy can be a place to put some of that weight down it can help you figure out what's 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comedically there with the funny name of a comedian that's on you for not knowing who shecky green you don't have to know who shecky green is but i don't know i don't like my allies the bush belt still gots um i have the soul of a bush belt comedian uh i should be in the cat skills in nineteen forty five opening for checky green that's why i was destined to be this is the down lebert our show with this two cats break it's out of here i'm i'm curious if there's an anti bombing strategy do you have a particular bit that's designed to turn around a crowd that doesn't seem to be with you oh man no i i i double down and i double down like a gambling addict i will double down until he either comes full circle or some people are walking out so my strategy is double down you do you get a lot of you look like christian yelich do you get a lot of uh you look like a professional golfer with the cap here uh do you get any of that no i think what are the ones i've heard walmart austin butler uh tanner from love on the spectrum i get a lot uh i don't get that many sports comparisons i'm trying to think i i don't know i think people i i don't quite look athletic enough one rory mackerel roy oh i get roy sometimes i get roy yeah professional golfer so last thing on the way out and again lookazelnic.com is where you go uh do you have a joke that represents the longest you've worked on a joke like do you have a joke that you've been trying to perfect for months or years i have one of the jokes that i first ever wrote is still in in my act it's grown a lot like it's it now has like five things after it that are sort of all attached to it in the chunk but this idea it's one of my least likeable jokes one of my double down jokes for sure but the joke is that i'm not religious because i grew up rich so i never needed that excess hope and uh that's one that i that was like one of the first things i ever wrote is i was trying to do biographical stuff i was starting comedy i was like some rich new york city kid didn't think i had a place in comedy sometimes still don't but i wrote that joke early on now it goes a bunch of ways after that and it has a long way but that one's still in the act i don't know if it will be next year but uh i still tell it and i probably wrote that five six years ago now uh lukeus thank you for joining us where are you getting most of your materialists these days do you have one place that by percentage is larger than all the others for your material i think the the country's making it easy no matter where side you're on everyone's talking about the same stuff just with a completely different perspectives about it so i usually start with about 15 minutes of political humor if you can't make it through that you're gonna hate the rest of the set lukeuszelnic.com is where you go thank you sir appreciate time thanks fellas appreciate yours yeah uh that was Chris Cody saying that guys are the easiest to beat up on yeah that was evident as we pounded poor Jeremy yeah uh Jeremy is now in another room working on music privately trying to do spoof songs yeah working alone not wanting to work with us anymore yeah just a private room Chris you really enjoyed the bullying of uh i did these two back there these two Jeremy uh how did you get a paper towel because i was crying yeah you guys you guys were laughing a lot so i wanted you to just said Jeremy up for him to do crowd work on Jeremy during that interview that would have been fun i just i saw at the beginning of what was happening with Pablo that Jeremy and Tony were on the same team and i thought it was borderline evil the way that mike ryan took you and put you on his side no no so here's what happened right uh at some point Pablo is talking about how the mba like there's no rules the the owners don't follow the rules then the rest of the country and i'm like yeah there are no rules have you not been paying attention Pablo i know you've been locked in on this aspiration nobody follows the rules anywhere i think you noticed that yeah i think the wealthy just have a weird relationship with punitive measures they have zero relationship with punitive measures which is another story but as that's going i'm going to jump in and say something and then Pablo goes on for another five minutes of diatribe so i'm like all right my window closed my psych age your window closed i'm like yeah kind of did he's like all right Jeremy you go so at that point that's where i switch over and i go all right Ruben Bade over here on mezzan and Jeremy didn't see it comment let's see what let's see what Jeremy's got to say here and Chris Cody at one point you sure and Chris Cody enjoyed too much uh you got to go after a guy you do you do he's right about that your yeah though supporting how are we not supposed to go after that then there's a video of a great job of a Jeremy singing and he's like like like moving up and down the shoulders like his eyebrows his hands are moving down this feels mean this feels like he doesn't know we're watching him you know this is vulnerable this is voyeuristic now it's too much this is criminal it's funny uh well we never replayed the sound before we get to mad dog please find for me the sound of you reading in another room that we meant to get to three or four shows ago when you didn't know we were watching you as you were trying to read uh just find that for me uh take a time guys in the interim let's go ahead and just play the mad dog sound that you guys have said i have to get to today i have not heard it zazzle do you want to give me any context here that doesn't spoil this sound it's look it's the biggest story in the mba going it's all star weekend is two things all right it's tanking and it's load management and dog is on top of it and but i love here i want to add a little more context there's music underneath here it's Bruce Springsteen i added it a little bit so you don't hear too much of us and get us pinged but he is like playing off of Bruce Springsteen throughout all this doggy being dog that's 21 year old kid with the wizards and Jackson decided to set out that divot and it Bruce and here it is i sat here and i gave it a date november before Thanksgiving in 2017 and i walked in there in the old season and did an hour show with the freaking high heat sick as a freaking dog and then walked in here and did a muddle on and i said i can't take it i'm so sick i got to leave and i took the train all and three days later i was in the freaking Stanford hospital and the doctor said how the how to do some i've missed and then i sat there on a two's and then i sat there and operated on even three hours to get an appendix out a left turn one with spruce out and jerry Jackson can't play in a fourth quarter in a game in framerican 50 million a year i mean this is my this is absurd that's springsteen 80 years of age playing 3 and a half hours of freaking night my goodness what is the world come to this garbage garbage you should be ashamed NBA ashamed yeah got that coo jay don't change will change fantastic he's citing this show he's citing that he did high heat in 2017 for an hour and then needed to be hospitalized the doctor asked him how did you do this it's rupture appendix jerry Jackson play for quarter flu game he's citing that nine years ago eight years ago he did an hour of high heat with a rupture appendix that amazed his doctor why for 50 million dollars can't somebody play the fourth quarter what's missing there is high heat in the off season dan there's nothing to talk about and now that's three days later i was in the freaking stand for the hospital and the doctor said how the hell did you survive this and then i sat there on a Tuesday now he sat there and operated on even three hours to get an appendix out a left turn one with spruce out and jerry Jackson can't play in a fourth quarter in a game in framerican 50 million a year that saxophone coming coming no it's not a bit much it's perfect it's why he's that motivated and losing breath because he loves spring scene so much and clearance god rest is so rest in power yeah that was the most grating part of the clip the sax but he was motivated by it to tell you he just shouted his name did you hear him chris russo he just said his name i know i had to say why did he say his name maybe you didn't know who he was talking about he chris russo can play hurt when his appendix is rupture but jerry and jax and jr can't play the fourth quarter but he paid 50 million a year him tossing to Bruce hey bro you gotta hit that post well that's that he does feel like bruspringstein is playing behind him as he enjoys life for the way that is bigger than bruspringstein he does feel like the soundtrack to introduce him is bruspringspin and it broke and here it is i use that here so good man holophame i love that guy holophame how does he keep doing i never love someone i've i haven't met in person it's the greatest and i love him banger after banger after banger after banger after banger don lebertard surely every time you're watching this you recognize that your wife is laughing that she married she married Larry day yeah i do yeah he one of the great characters in the history of television in my humble opinion and and to my credit my personality in my humble opinion followed by to my credit to my credit it's amazing my personality does free date curve your enthusiasm stugats oh wow okay i'm not gonna say larry david okay you copy all right put it on the pole please juju did Greg Cody copy right being an asshole long before larry david this is the dan lebertard show with this to god poplotori is also producing banger after banger i don't know how you guys reacted to jerry west saying the old school kawaii if he goes to the lakers isn't gonna get his name in the paper i know i noticed that you think kawaii is thinking to himself how do i get my name in a newspaper how do i get bill plasica to write about me in the eleatimes the old white people who runs boards are so funny jerry west doing ballers bidding because ballmer says i want you to guys to sort of absorb the amazing in ballmer saying in 2017 yeah kawaii seems pretty good i want him what do i have to do to get him i'm gonna get him then he gets him and then quietly here james hard and straighted too much is traded they've just torn the whole thing down it loses forever it loses in a way that makes the Oklahoma city historically good feeding off of their mistake do you guys not marvel whether you're bored of the kawaii story i know all star weekend is going there and nick right is fixing the nba with bill simmonds but what has been birthed in the 15 years of lebron as he's making all nba teams throughout it what's been birthed is the grotesque dysfunction that comes from athlete doesn't trust his organization it all breaks apart with san antonio athlete trusts his trainer when it comes to his body not the team athlete trusts his uncle not steve ballmer as it comes to how is it and i'm gonna get my money most powerful richest owner in sports says i don't have to play by the rules allegedly i just get what i want right i'm the richest i get what i want however it is that i want it i'm gonna win because i'm gonna get the best player and now it's just lawsuits and paperwork and assortment of things because nobody's actually keeping his secret right can you imagine being that wealthy making millions of dollars per minute without doing anything just because your your money you know it increases uh tenfold a day but it doesn't cost you anything to give koaya no show job allegedly that pays him forty eight million dollars a year and that's one of the ways you get him extra money because money like what different what does forty eight million dollars mean to steve ballmer like isn't that something he can make in a a fraction of a day yep a fraction of a day steve ballmer's money multiplies in a way that makes your rules and money meaningless correct yeah and you and you think you're so powerful that no one can can penetrate your shield and if you do get in trouble you can buy your way out of that too i i can only imagine the the ego that comes with being that wealthy and thinking you can do anything you can buy anything anything you want i wanted to ask you guys uh whether anyone has given thought to Tony Dungee still being on television giving opinions poorly while Tony Dungee refuses to answer correct whether or not he voted for bella check which suggests i assume at this point if you're refusing to answer that's the answer that is the answer on that one right you either boldly and proudly stake your non controversial opinion that i voted for bella check or if you refuse yourself that's incriminating it's ten amount of taking the fifth amendment you're allowed to do it but people think you're hiding something people think you don't want to tell the truth so you're taking the fifth i think the first and the the first rule of being a hall of fame voter in any sport should be full transparency people fans have a right to know who you voted for and who you didn't you mentioned this yesterday here's Rodney Harrison telling Tony Dungee to his face that he doesn't respect that opinion but i do think interesting that i am not hearing anywhere nationally why have Tony Dungee and Rodney Harrison been allowed to have those jobs for that long which is any list that doesn't include bella bella check at the top is absolutely wrong and a lot of those players that we mentioned they're great players i played with Drew Brees i played with adam deneterity but there's nobody more deserving to being a hall of fame than coach bella check i've seen this greatness we i've seen him design defenses to stop your offense and um you just look at the players that he's impacted he's been unbelievable and when i look out throughout the hall of fame and even a guy like tom Brady tom Brady wouldn't be tom Brady without bill bella check and that's the disappointing part of the coach and you guys got it wrong that's actually a pretty good moment for Rodney Harrison a major call out yeah it's it's it's Tony Dungee just takes it on the chin i mean Tony Dungee's lack of really anything for for mbc and the super bowl has even gotten Michael k calling for him to be fired not just at the super bowl like ever i think Dungee comes off pompous enough that now look him's him refusing to say who he voted for obviously is the answer it means that he didn't vote for bellicic but i think that he's pompous enough to believe that when he says that he actually believes he is withholding his vote from everyone like i don't think he sees it that way i think he actually believes no i'm not telling you when we all know he's telling us i would just like the truth from Tony Dungee it it can be spygate was big enough where he doesn't deserve to be first ballot he's gonna make it next year it can be anything that the truth is but the truth isn't i don't remember or i don't want to answer that i mean that that's just evasive to a fault and it's highly suspicious that it's coming from Indianapolis cults that were embroiled in that rivalry there that probably might be bitter wait these guys found some sort of advantage just say that i think everybody would understand instead of this weird thing where we're like how is this guy not a hall of favor do people need to have their votes taken away because that is the criteria right there those resumes you know who looks great on mbc now jason garret as always gleaming whenever he turns toward the camera and that tooth sparkles we need to get the imaging that supports what it is that we're doing where jason garret just knows the camera is there isn't saying anything and like a department store mannequin he is moved by the hips toward the camera and smiles with a single gleaming tooth that should make a pinging sound and that's what he's there to do just be former Dallas cowboys coach and bet and still better than toni dungee this is a little more complicated than that but i'd make the argument that that show doesn't actually have to aspire to be great it just has to be on before that game because if they wanted to be great on that show they would keep taking more chances or done something else with dan patrick and tried to make it more interesting they did easier famously they did try to do something different with the with the impact that that was a thing that happened i think they would have kept trying to do things they yeah there's no incentive to take chances when all you have to do is get out of the way for football like i got something shocking big swing big risk we're taking let's get one of the most polished likable sports anchor host ever to be a part of our coverage i'm thinking outside the box here Randy Moss says Greg before we get to bet the castle here Randy Moss says that only coaches and players should have votes now dungee's obviously a coach and dungee's one of the people doing this that is creating Randy Moss's opinion where he's saying we need to take away the vote from the writers he's saying just coaches just players well the problem with that is that coaches and players could very well have an axe to grind okay like dungee yeah and have their vote influenced by how their career went and how many super bowls they think they didn't win because of tom because of billbell check because of tom Brady ostensibly the writers are more neutral ostensibly we're not fans of a team we're not influential we didn't lose a super bowl because billbell check one six Rodney Harrison telling dungee straight to his face he designed defenses it stopped you that's good line it was a bar no it was a great moment for Rodney Harrison off the list i turn my iron in the direction of of Tony dungee why why with this whole hall of fame thing and this billbell check robbercraft thing is everybody being so god damn cute well why why we being cute you have your reasons for leaving them off your belt yeah just say it what the truth why why does it everyone's embarrassed now like you did it yeah like just stick to your gun the only one who was apparently telling the truth is bill polian he's actually the only one who told the truth we were unfair to him we were very unfair him everybody was and his son scolded us and should have everybody was unfair to bill polian he's just a daughtering 81 year old man who couldn't remember whether he voted for bellic check or not he was not sinister he was not evil uh Tony let's bet the castle Tony I know Zaz is jealous i've seen Zaz is always sniffing around those white castle burgers he's so good he's jealous that you're the one who gets to do this today go ahead Tony give us uh let's see what it is that we're betting the castle on definitely damn to throw the white castle burgers in the uh in the microwave here and with a quick little 60 seconds and we are off okay so my bet the castle i'm going futures bet again we talk about the western conference we talk about how okay see we actually need them to stop wimpy and the alien invasion that's happening with the san Antonio spurs i'm gonna go a little bit further down the board and i'm gonna take the denver nuggets plus 450 to win the mba finals i know they're at the fourth seat they're at the fourth seat right now in the western conference joker missed yeah six weeks or so when you got hurt here remind me across this read the kasey center they're playing really good ball they were able to stabilize the boat without joker joker's back in now working back into uh it's playing shape they've got their secondary tertiary guys playing really well jimal muri plays incredible in the playoffs i think we're gonna see some cannibalism happening in the western conference does okay see make it out i don't know your mouth is watering dead is in your mouth i can tell it's like yeah 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