Hey, this may be a world record. Welcome to the brand new second date podcast today. We're Breck and Jeffrey. Yeah, for the shortest date we've heard. Ooh, yeah, that kind of record. 10 minutes in, she's like, take me home. Yeah, yeah. We're gonna find out why, because the guy doesn't know either, coming up here in a second. But first, let's start with comments. Well, kind of the opposite of a short date. John said, I once got lost on a hike on a date, and we were lost for like three hours, almost got ran over by a horse, and then went to Waffle House, and now we've been married for five years. Oh, that's cute. Look at that. Oh, right, after the helicopter came and saved you. Yeah. Where does the horse come in? I don't know, or the Waffle House. Yeah, Waffle House on this mountain. I have so many comments. I'm starting to think he was just in a field, suburb somewhere. Yeah, all right. Hey, thank you for sharing your story. I love it. Oh, we got your brand new second date episode starting right now. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning, second date update. Today, we have a quote unquote returning listener. Uh-oh. His name is Jason. Why quote unquote? Well, he says he's been on the show before for this very segment. And you don't believe him? Well, I gotta be honest, I looked back into the archives, and I can't find his call anywhere. Huh. So was he really on the show? No. Is he making it up just to sound cool? Cause that's totally what I would do. But I guess we might be forced to believe him. I mean, Jason, can you at least jog our memory and tell us what happened the last time that you supposedly were on with us? You guys had me on twice. Wait, wait, oh, wait, you were on more than once? We did an update, update. Did we just never air it? Cause it wasn't very funny. Yeah, are you a boring guy? Well, I'll start from the beginning then. I was dating this girl, Emily, and she said that she didn't want to go back out on a date with me because I had a hard time saying no. She wanted a guy that could push back more, stand up for his thoughts and opinions, and that's what you guys were helping me out with. Okay. So you went out with a woman who wanted her boyfriend to say no to her. Does that sound realistic, Brooke? He's just a pushover. It sounds like. I love a man who can make a choice. Yeah. In decision is one of the most unsexy traits. Yeah, so you said you were on for an update, update. That means you two were together. What happened? Well, I started being able to stand up for myself from time to time. We actually did end up dating for a little bit there. All right. Okay. So why did it end? Okay, she broke up with me because she got a dog and she wanted to name it Spinner. And taking your guys advice, I was like, no, that's a dumb name. Whoa, hold up, no one told you to talk to people like that. Brooke, why would you tell him that a man should stand up to a woman? That's horrible. It's not your dog. Yeah. Gee. B, that is kind of mean. It's all aggressive. I mean. No, I said you need to name an acute human name like Kevin because that's like funny. Yeah, we love that. Get your own dog and name it Kevin. There we go. Okay. That's kind of what she said. Well, anyway, I didn't back down. So I was like, no, you're not naming the dog Spinner and she ended up breaking up with me. Oh, wow. I met her and Spinner. Really happy though, for real. Probably. After you gave her exactly what she wanted, a guy that says no, and then she didn't like that. Not at her own life decisions. Yeah. Hard to decipher what women really want. It's not. So did you do that again to another girl now? Is that why you're on the phone? Yeah. But good guess because I am now dating a different girl. Her name is Riley. All right. Is that a stupid name? We gotta get that out of the way. No, it's a human name, so he's okay with it. Okay, fine. We like her name. Humans with human names are okay. Okay, that's a bold stance to take, but good for you. Okay, so here's the problem. The date only lasted about 15 minutes. Whoa. Oh, that's not good. Do we even consider it a date at that point? Is it just a run-in at that point? Did you plan on it being a quick date? I planned a whole day. So I picked her up at her place and it just started like a normal date. You know, how's your day? Where are we going? Like what's going on? Nice to meet you, Josh. And then all of a sudden we're barely 10 minutes down the road and she just says, I think it's best if we don't go out, actually. Oh my gosh. Before you even get to the destination where you're driving to? That's drastic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like the AC barely got the car cool. Okay. Oh, that's a good accent. Did she see like duct tape and a shovel in the back seat and that's why she wanted to turn around? Yeah, she had to see something. I kind of thought, I mean, I never tried to catfish everybody. All my pictures are current online, but I'm like thinking, okay, she probably got in the car, thought I was ugly, wanna go back home. Oh, is that fair, Alexis? Does that happen a lot? I mean, both are good. Brooke, why are you laughing? Why are you giggling about him thinking that he's ugly? Why would that be your first thought, man? Put that aside. I mean, if she didn't think you were ugly, what else, like, was anything else happen? How much broke, shovel, duct tape? No, I mean, I said that's where I said, like, what do you mean? You wanna go back right now? The only thing she gave me was that it just wasn't what she expected. I mean, I don't know exactly what she meant by that, but she obviously, I wanna talk about it. Okay, did you use the lessons that you learned from before and say, no, you're staying in this car and we are going on this date? That's a great idea, Jeff. I think that's a romantic move. I think it's kidnapping, but... Yeah, didn't quite go there. Good, good, good, good. But I dropped her off and that was kinda it. So maybe this isn't the best question to ask, but I need to know, was there a kiss? Oh, come on. It'd be funny if they made out passionately and then they left. He's like, oh, she spent the night. Oh, no. No, no. I brought her, I bought her flowers and she just, like, she just threw them in the backseat of the car, got out and left them. Through them. I texted her afterwards, no response. I guess I'm not shocked, but I just want clarity. And it sounds like even if she did say ugly, you could take it. I mean, yeah, I saw him six. There we go, all right. Okay, that's not bad. There you go. We can work with a six. Yeah, you're more attractive than anybody in this room. That's right. Look how high Brooke's voice is going, like, yeah. Six isn't bad. That's actually reactive. I believe you. Let's see what Riley has to say if we can get her on the phone. We'll try and get you your second, second date update on this show. Oh yeah, memorable guy. Super memorable Jason. We have to remember him this time. Right after this, hold on, man. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning, second date update. If you're just joining us, we've got a return caller, Jason, on the phone, who describes himself as a solid six. Ooh. But is he in New York six or in Idaho six? Oh, we didn't ask that. Because there is a difference. Come on, there's somebody for everybody, even in Idaho four out there, all right? Totally. But he only brought up his own looks because after just 10 minutes of driving together, Jason's date suddenly changed her mind and said, actually, this isn't what I was expecting. And she has to be taken home. So his thought was, well, maybe she just didn't think I was attractive enough in person. Like she finally looked left 10 minutes into the drive and was like, oh my gosh. What if it's not about him? What if she wasn't wearing the right outfit? You know, like he explained what they were gonna do for the date and she's like, I don't have tennis shoes. No, she would have just said, hold on, let me run inside real quick, I'll be right back. He's trying to make it not about sad, ugly. It's possible, Jason, have you considered that Riley hates herself a little bit? What? Wait, that's what you got? How she looks. Oh, now I get it. And considering that I might hate myself a little bit now. Okay. Good. This is not going in a positive direction. She's kidding, guys. The thing is, he never got any specific answer on what was such a let down. So that's what he's hoping to get today at a bare minimum. And then maybe we'll see where it goes from there. And this may be the first time, the hope is that she thinks he's ugly. Yeah. Because two people who both don't find themselves attractive could be meant for each other. That's the optimism that she wanted, right Brooke? I was just saying she wasn't prepared for whatever he had planned that day. Not that she was ugly. Yeah. Okay, well we can all hope for different things. Okay. She's made, he's ugly. Yeah. Could be the perfect match. Let's just call it. Okay, Jason, I'm gonna call her here in a second, but real quick, how was she looking that night? Your opinion. Better than a six? Pretty good. Okay. Okay. There you go, Jason. I won't quote you directly on that, but yeah. Let's dial her number and see what she has to say. Here we go. Hello? Hey, we're looking to speak with Riley. Speaking? Hey Riley, this is a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Hey, good morning. Welcome to it, Riley. Hi. Hey, how you doing? I'm sorry, who is this? Ooh, that hurts every time. Yeah, I thought we were getting momentum. Yeah, but now we're a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning, and this is a segment that we do called the second date update. Okay. I know you're not a woman who likes her time to be wasted, so I'm gonna get right to this. Good point, Jeff. You went out with a listener of our show, a guy named Jason, and he told us the date didn't go how he thought it was gonna go. Well, it didn't really go at all. Yeah, is that a fair assessment? We didn't really go out. Yeah, right. We're sorry about that, that sucks, huh? No, not really. We heard it was your idea to not continue the date, but Jason is a little bit confused on why you felt that way. Yeah, I mean, I don't know how he could be, but... Really? You think it's something that obvious? Yeah, I mean, we were in the car, and he said, we're going to this restaurant. I know the restaurant. I like the restaurant. And then when I'm in the car, he's like, oh, I didn't make a reservation. And I was like, you know, it's a busy night. Like, you probably should have made a reservation. He's like, oh, well, I don't know any other restaurants in the area, okay, but we have phones, so just Google. But he's like, you know, it's fine. We can just stand outside and do like small talk. Oh, that's an awful backup plan. Like, wouldn't you do a just? You know, he should have done better. It's a lot of just planning before you even get to the restaurant, though. Brooke, what's going through your mind? I'm curious. It sounds like an argument you have like, three years into a relationship. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So it's a good thing. Like, oh, you didn't make reservations? Of course you didn't. You never put any effort into these dates. You know what, that's it, Bill, turn the car around. So Brooke's saying it sounds like you belong together. Oh, God. We absolutely don't. Okay. I don't want my time wasted. Like, I don't know why you think like I can just stand outside for 45 minutes. It's a Friday night. Like, I'd rather hang out with my friends. Maybe he just misspoke. You know, maybe he meant like we'd go to a bar, we'll walk down the street and see if there's something else while we wait. Yeah, but I can- I said that and he then clarified. I was like, oh, you mean like get, you know, drink inside or somewhere next door. And he was like, no, we can just stand outside so we don't miss our name. Oh, for the- for the table. He sounds like a type of person that arrives five hours early for a flight. I can understand how that would be a red flag for Riley, where he doesn't plan ahead enough and she's feeling like he doesn't value her time. But that's a fix. I mean, why wouldn't you make that clear to him in that point? Like, hey, it doesn't feel like you really care about your time with me. Well, I did say I don't think we're a good fit. You mind just dropping me back off? And he said, fine. So I thought it was clear. Okay. Well, we value your time very much. And that's why we don't want to waste any more of your time in letting you know that Jason is listening to this phone call right now. He's actually been on it the entire time and wants to talk to you. What? Yeah, yep. Jason, are you there? Hey, Riley. Hey. Are you just making all that stuff up because you think I'm ugly and you're not trying to hurt my feelings? Oh, what? Oh, dang. She's sticking to his first theory. Why would you say that, Jason? That's not what she said at all. I was just, is it illegal to ask? It sounds like it's something that's in your head a lot. Well, this is good to get it out of the way. Do you find Jason attractive or not, Riley? I mean, I wouldn't have gone on the date if I didn't find you attractive. I was interested, but your lack of planning just felt like you didn't care and you just thought you could, you know, it seemed kind of arrogant. Ooh. Yeah. She's mad about you not having a full plan, it sounds like. No, it's not that I didn't have a plan. The plan was just called vibes. You know what I mean? Just be together. You're a cool guy. We're adults, that's not a thing. You're not gonna waste my Friday night with just vibes. Yeah. Different personality types for sure here. But why didn't you pivot and say, oh shoot, we have a 45 minute wait, let's pop by next door and discover a new spot. If we got there and there was like a place next door, you know, I wouldn't say that I was opposed to that necessarily, I just thought it'd be better to make sure that our name could, we could hear our name, cause what if we missed it all together, that'd be bad. At least we got to the core and know exactly what the issue was that caused the problem on this date. So why don't Riley, Jason, you two talk to each other. See if there's some natural chemistry when you just are left alone to your own devices. Go ahead. Jason, why don't you start it off? Okay, now that we got past that little speed bump here, Riley, if I have any reservations this time, are you in to go? Is that, if that was the only thing that was holding you back? Oh, right, yes. It's kind of a smart. That's that problem. I don't know, I think you have a lot of self-esteem issues going on. There's no self-esteem issues. I know exactly where I sit. I'm a solid six. We know this, we've been over this. No, that was you, but yeah. Just because everything didn't go exactly your way, I think we're already learning how to compromise. I think this is the start of a beautiful partnership. Oh, wow. I've shown you that I can take criticism and respond in a favorable manner. Who doesn't want growth in their relationship? Oh, wow. You're a self-help book. I do appreciate that. I do appreciate that. The jumping to conclusions that I thought you were ugly kind of makes me nervous. Why? Well, no, let him respond to it. But I don't know why. She just went over the self-confidence thing. Oh, I think he's shook a nerve with Jeff. Jason. Well, like I said before, I feel like I'm about a six and I feel like you're probably around the same area. Oh. It seems like a good fit to me. That was like a kind of a jab. Smooth. Smooth delivery. Are you trying to be funny? It's a good match. You know, we're both not classically attractive. Oh, OK. Classically attractive. Jason. We were there. You did it already. You already turned it around. Oh, my. OK, so we're both men. Hold on, hold on. Riley, is your heart beating fast hearing Jason say that to you? I definitely the most romantic thing I've ever heard. Well, I'm going to take that at face value and ask, would you like to go out on another date with Jason? Because we'd pay for it. And we'd put the reservation in for him. Absolutely not. Oh, man. Jason, man, I'm sorry that we couldn't get this to work out between you and Riley. But hey, we look forward to your third attempt at a second date update where we'll definitely remember who you are. We've got to make a note or something on him. Yeah, he's Jason the Six. OK, perfect. Ha ha ha. Brooklyn Jeffrey in the morning. Something we really didn't get to break down too much during that. Is it rude to ditch someone just because they didn't make reservations before the date? And you didn't find out till you're in the car? Yeah. Like, was she rude? That's actually a good point. Or was she justified in telling him to turn around the car? Text in 78592 because I'm genuinely curious looking for things. OK, I got to say she was a little justified. If you're on the way to a nice date and the person tells you on the way, no, I didn't make a reservation. And you know you're going to have to stand out for two hours. I'd be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah, I'm here for the food, not for the company. You didn't give him a chance, though, at all. Brooklyn, I was like, no, don't stand outside for two hours. But I will say at least you didn't cost him any money. Yeah, that's true. And wasted time. And didn't even take the flowers. Yeah. I know. That person thought about her through the flowers and the sacksies. That part, it was all out of control because I agree. He probably should have made a reservation, but I do think it was harsh to call everything off just because there was no serious plan in place. Well, it wasn't just that. It was that he wouldn't even pivot to go get a drink next door. Yeah, come on. I mean, listen, even go to Denny's. Like, that's something. Whatever it was, it didn't work out for Jason this time around. I'm sure he'll be back. Oh, yeah. Promise you he will be. Will we remember him? We need one of those customer cards where you get a punch every time you come in. But no matter who you are, if you've been on once, twice, a million times, we're always here to help. Email the show. 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