Top Nutrition and Lifestyle Strategies for Blood Pressure, Cholesterol and Heart Health with Dr. Jack Wolfson

We've all heard this before, you know, where they say, my friend was healthy. And then they died. You know, my friend was healthy. And then they had a stroke or had a heart attack. Here's the thing. If you are healthy, truly healthy through the lens of, well, live, well, think well, and you test on guests. If you are truly healthy in all those facets, you can't die. Welcome back to the podcast. I've got a repeat guest, Dr. Jack Wolfson, good friend of mine. He is a natural heart doctor, board certified cardiologist, practice conventional cardiology for many years. And then he realized he wasn't getting people well. And so he went and studied functional medicine and natural health and helps people blood pressure issues, cholesterol issues on number of different cardiovascular related health conditions. And he does it in an all natural way. You can find him at naturalheartdoctor.com. And this is going to be a great discussion where we're going to talk about what he calls the 100 year heart and how your heart is designed to live 100 or longer. And, you know, really all the best steps to take good care of your cardiovascular system to help optimize your circulation, your lipid balance, your metabolic health, and really thrive in life. So you guys are in for a treat here. Also, Dr. Jack Wolfson has a great bestselling book called the Paleo cardiologist. And that's a great book you can find on Amazon. So you should check that out. And again, his website is naturalheartdoctor.com. Him and his team work with people all over the world. So check him out naturalheartdoctor.com. And without further ado, let's go into the show. Well, I love listening to podcasts. And one of my favorites is the Dr. Josh Axe show hosted by my good friend, Dr. Josh Axe, every week he shares how to balance your hormones, restore your gut, boost your energy and slow aging without relying on harsh medications or quick fixes. He shares both ancient biblical practices and the latest breakthroughs in nutrition, herbal remedies and lifestyle medicine. Any sits down with world renowned experts to have real, unfiltered conversations. He won't hear anywhere else. So if you're ready to take control of your health, renew your energy and transform your mind, body and spirit, tune into the Dr. Josh Axe show every Monday and Thursday, wherever you get your podcasts. Well, Dr. Jack Wolfson always love our conversations and everything you bring to the world. And you know, I know I've heard you talk about this concept of the 100 year heart and you know, heart disease. Obviously, when a number one killer, I believe it's a number one killer, you know, in in first world countries. And most people, their heart's not making it 100 years. And so art, is it designed to make it that long? And what's holding us back from that? Yeah, I think it's, it's definitely designed to make it to 100 and beyond. And when you think about the heart muscle and you think about the fact that it beats on average about 30 million times per year. And then if you extend that over the course of 100 years, well, of course, that now comes into like, you know, three billion heartbeats that somebody experiences over their lifetime. And it is designed for that. It is an amazing muscle that propels blood forward and circulates the blood and oxygen and all the nutrients around the body. And our creator designed us in that way for the 100 plus years. And we see that in the many, in many, you know, centenarians that exist out there. There's no reason why we should not live until 100 years, save for some kind of traumatic experience or emergency, you know, chronic disease is the number one killer cardiovascular disease is. But again, that's all, all, all preventable. I believe we are genetically built perfectly. And, and when we give the body what it needs, take away what it doesn't, that's the 100 year heart strategy. Yeah, for sure. And so what, in conventional medicine, what are they doing? Like how, how are they treating cardiovascular issues? How are they looking at people when it comes to heart health? Well, and the life expectancy in the United States is like late 70s for men, maybe 77, 78 depending on the year, maybe 80 years of age for women. And that's clearly not good enough. It's not the way that it should be. And they're not only are they only lasting until that age in modern medicine, in the modern medical world, but they're not, they're not thriving. They're just surviving. They're, they're limping across that finish line. And you see that the last several years of life are often spent in a hospital, certainly in and out of doctors offices. And that's just not the way that it should be. The medical model with their foundation of pharmaceuticals and surgeries is a failure. And it was designed by people who only had their financial interests at, at best in heart. And that's, and when you look at things through that lens of how they're trying to push to pharma, how they brainwashed the medical doctors into the pharmaceutical surgical model, you can just see the failures, but ultimately 80 years is not good enough for me. My father died when he was 63 of a Parkinson's like illness called progressive super nuclear palsy. And the male clinic had no idea why my father was sick and dying. And to tell my back story is that I've met a young woman who was a 29 year old doctor of chiropractic. And she told me all the reasons why my father is sick and dying. And I listened, I changed and now bring the message of natural heart health and longevity to the world. Yeah. So, okay. And your your father was a medical doctor as well. And you know, a lot of medical doctors, unfortunately, are dying early. They should be the ones leading when it comes to health, right? And they should be the ones living and having great lifespan and health span, right? And you were talking about that lifespan or lifespan is a certain amount, 78, 79 years or whatever. But the health span is typically like 55, right? After 55 people are typically on a lot of medications, surgeries and that health span is shrinking. And so, uh, so it's definitely scary. But yeah, your father was eventually trained medical doctor. So he should be leading the way when it comes to health and unfortunately got sick at a young age. Yeah. Yeah. But he was, he was just indoctrinated in the mainstream medical model, which is of pharmaceuticals and surgeries. And I like to think about this, uh, David, that when I was in my mother's womb, I'm listening to the conversations that are going on. And I was born into the medical matrix into the medical paradigm where I'm hearing again in utero of my father talking about cardiology. And then I'm a baby and I'm hearing this. So it's like I was just indoctrinated it from day one. So I really understand all of those nuances and all of the, uh, methodologies of what they do. And of course, I would, you know, work in the biggest group in the state of Arizona as a hospital-based cardiologist for 10 years up until 2012. And I just saw all the failures in there. And to your point, the medical doctors, they buy into this whole thing too. And they don't last long either. So they take all the different pharmaceuticals, they take the statin drugs, they take the aspirin, take the blood pressure drugs, but, uh, at best, they are minimally effective at worse. They kill people. And I think you can find arguments certainly on both sides. And I will tell you that ultimately and tell your audience, because I know you know, this as well as I do that the pharmaceuticals are not the answer. God bless the men and women who work in emergency rooms and trauma centers, but for everything else, we got to go at things, uh, naturally. And I'm proud to, you know, and, and thankful for you to, you know, put off this message with me. Yeah. And that's what you and your team do. Natural and integrative cardiology and what, what sort of lab testing? So if somebody comes in, they bring in labs or if they want to run labs, what are some biomarkers that people can look at that really help them understand a little bit more about what's going on in their body and in particular, their cardiovascular health? Well, our methodology and natural heart doctor is eat well, live well, think well, and then all the different components that would stem from that. But where I think we help a lot of people is in the test, don't guess methodology because a lot of people believe they're living this healthy lifestyle. And that's great. But we need to trust, but verify. So let's verify what their numbers are. And I know you're a big proponent of this and you've written books on this as it relates to inflammation, measuring the markers of inflammation and oxidative stress are the ultimate, uh, guide to, to kind of where you are status wise. It certainly is not total cholesterol or lipid ratios. That really has little to do with what we are trying to accomplish. Now, if you see abnormalities there in the lipids or if you see abnormalities in the inflammation markers, you need to find out why now the lipids react to inflammation. They're part of the anti-inflammatory mechanism of the body amongst all the wonderful, beautiful things that LDL and HDLs do for us. But we need to figure out the source of why there is all this inflammation. 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But it's all about trying to figure out the why because when you have the why and you can reverse the why, that's where it becomes very special. Now, real quick, when you look at people with high blood pressure of which 47% of adult Americans are labeled with with hypertension, what we find is that there are really four groups of people. So let me try and break this down real quick. So the the healthiest people are people with normal blood pressure, no pharma. The most unhealthy people are people with high blood pressure, still with high blood pressure on pharma. Those people die the quickest. Now, the next category is kind of tied where we have people with untreated hypertension, basically equivalent to the people with normal blood pressure because of pharmaceuticals. So what I'm trying to say is that if your blood pressure is normal and you're on pharma, don't think you're at the same risk as Dr. Jack Wolfson and Dr. David Jockers, because you're not. They have falsely lowered a number and it does not lead to significant benefit by any stretch. And that's looking at the benefit, let alone the side effects. So ultimately, if we're looking for longevity, pharma and longevity, it's an oxymoron. They do not exist together in the same sentence. Yeah, so that's really interesting to hear. So basically if somebody has high blood pressure, they want to figure out why is a blood pressure high and address the root cause. You talked about think well, move well, eat well, we're going to go back to that. But just taking a pharmaceutical to get the blood pressure normal. Now the blood pressure is good. The cardiologist looks at and says, okay, great. We're the drugs doing its job. Blood pressure is normal. Now you're heal. He might think he or she might think you're healthy, right? And that patient could walk out of the doctor's office thinking, okay, great. Blood pressure is good. I'm healthy, but they never actually got to the root cause in the research shows that they're still as at the same level of risk as when they had the blood pressure high without the medication. You know, there you go. And I think that's why I'm not that I think I know that's one of the reasons why I say that I blood pressure drugs kill millions of people. Statin drugs kill millions of people. Now why would I say that? Where's the evidence of that? Well, the evidence of that is this fact. If we take someone who we put on statin drugs, for example, and according to their data, and we could talk about is their data real or is it not or could could money influence the creation of data. I think everybody knows that is certainly a possibility. But let's just take it on face value. The goal is not to reduce your risk of having a heart attack over the next year from 2% to 1.8%. The goal is to reduce it to 0%. The goal is not to reduce your chances of dying of cardiovascular disease over the next year from 1.3% to 1.2%. But yet these are the numbers that exist. And why would I say that we're killing millions of people because millions of people are still part of that percentage on pharma who are still dying. And they die because they think. And really because they've been told, just take this pharmaceutical and you'll be fine. You can eat whatever you want, live however you want, think however you want. None of that stuff matters. Anything. Take the drug. And that's why I would say that over the course of the 40 years of statin drugs have been around as the number one revenue generating class of drugs of all time that it has been responsible for millions of deaths. Yeah, and there's so many reported side effects with statin drugs on top of what you're talking about where people just kind of get this false assurance and never really change their lifestyle. So let's talk about what people need to do to be healthy. Let's talk about start with best foods for metabolic health, best best foods for cardiovascular health. Well, I think that in the in the in the concept of of what kind of food, feed and stuff like that, I do want to be clear about one thing is that because you know, we can argue about vegan vegetarian paleo keto carnivore. All these various things that people would argue about, but first of all, let's get the chemicals out of our food and make our food organic. So no matter what you do, right? So if you want to go vegan, just make sure it's vegan organic. And if you want to go keto, just make sure that all your stuff in there is super clean. And that's really is clean meats, clean poultry, clean eggs, clean seafood, clean produce as well plant, you know, these type of things. Let's all agree on that. If you're like, hey, listen, listen to Wolfson and Jockers right now. And I feel like having some ice cream. Hey, listen, I'm not going to promote it, but if you're going to go do it, just go get organic ice cream if you're thinking about organic cookies or cupcakes or whatever. And I think you and I both as parents of four children each that that really stems into the childhood as well, just making sure that, you know, the kids are going to a birthday party. Okay, listen, go to the birthday party of the good time, but we're not eating the Costco cake. You know, we're bringing our own gluten free. We've done that many times. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's just I think the beautiful thing about that too is yes, we're supporting our children, but we're also sending a message to the world like, hey, this is doable. It's not it's not easy in this world. There's a lot of things that can inhibit that, but this is the stuff that we need to do to protect our children and promote health and wellness to the world. So on top of the organic story, I do believe that seafood is the healthiest food in the planet, people with the highest levels of omega three from a consumption of seafood, the lowest risk of everything, heart attack, stroke, cancer, dementia, Parkinson's, illnesses and stuff like that. On top of that, and where do we go with that wild salmon, sardines and chowies, clams, oyster shrimp, lobster, crab. I think that's ancestral food. It's common sense and, you know, again, makes perfect sense to me. Next, I would also say that knows to tail nutrition is critical as well. So my favorite animal for that sense is bison. We honor the bison. We honor the we honor everything that we eat. We pray over everything that we eat. We're thankful for everything that we eat and that that free range grass bed, really just a wild bison that exists inside of, you know, miles of fencing, but nonetheless, is wild and really untouched by man that. 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We're gluten free I profess that to my patients as well it's just not something that we need whether or not it affects you you know we could debate all day long we could test on that there's some phenomenal testing that we do on all of our patients but. There's really no need to eat gluten containing grains so we keep our grain intake to a minimum hunter gatherer that's the way to go from the nutrition side and then again what you know certain you're one of the worldwide experts as it relates to fasting and. Fasting is a wonderful way to you know to to be healthy we include that of course in the eat well conversation I guess of the times when you don't eat well because you don't eat and all you're maybe doing is is a water fast and I do think and you and I've discussed this before and i've seen this in my patients that once you get to that really extended duration of fast once you get out to that 48 and certainly 72 hours that's when we're starting to see plaque reversal or the body is saying I need nutrition. And i'm not getting it orally and I don't have much fat stores to break down at this point so therefore i'm going to start breaking down scar tissue and scar tissue in corner arteries is plaque and we have seen a lot of people reduce and reverse their coronary plaque and coronary calcification although I do not recommend a CT scan another conversation but for those who did we are seeing reversal and i'm excited about that and ultimately. It just it makes it makes perfect sense when you look at it that way yeah it's amazing when the body goes into that mode when insulin really really drops when you're fasting like that your body needs that you know needs protein right because you got to you got to continue to build white blood cells album and you know for for pulling things around in the blood I mean you constantly need a renew supply of protein and if you're not consuming it it's going to pull it from somewhere and the innate intelligence understands that the plaque should only be there for a temporary period of time. Right and it's only patching up a wound but it's not the ideal tissue so that's the perfect issue to use to build new healthy more stress resilient proteins so it's going to start pulling it out and yeah it's it's amazing that you guys are seeing that with those those kind of results and so. And so fasting can be really key obviously we're talking a lot about that on my podcast in my summits and so super key what other lifestyle strategies I know you talked about move well think well how does that play in here yeah the and there's so much debate always right about the eat well part but the live well and the think well it just important so looking at the concepts inside of live well and really this is just common common sense type things which the medical doctors do not get trained in the common sense methodology. There are thousands of studies that show the benefits of sleep and good sleep and quality sleep going to sleep shortly after the sun down and waking up before the sunrise which is truly how how we live you and I are recording this and as we speak you know that you know it's you know we go to bed typically around 8 8 30 of the latest and naturally I'd wake up around 4 30 and I start my day and I believe that's totally ancestral. We also talk about the importance of sunshine so getting our solar panel aka our skin and our eyeballs getting that out into the natural light so as I record this with you right now i'm daytime i'm sitting in the sun. In an outdoor area i'm you know getting shade at this moment but I embrace the power of the sun obviously we know that it increases vitamin D and interestingly enough the way that we make vitamin D is the sunlight hits the skin. And cholesterol coursing through the skins of vessels is turned into vitamin D therefore vitamin D goes up and total cholesterol goes down but not only does the sun create the vitamin D but it also creates nitric oxide which is a phase of dilator and it's anti platelet and improve circulation and flow. And one of the other amazing benefits of force of sun is that it helps to create melatonin so when you get sun exposure during the day melatonin is released at night when you go to sleep and melatonin is the master hormone. That controls everything else going on in the body you know it's not master hormone is not thyroid and you know it's not the ACT age and it's not testosterone estrogen progesterone it's all predicated on healthy melatonin levels so we want that all right so we talked about sleep sun movement physical activity the more we move the more physical we are outdoors the longer we're going to live. And then big category in the live well are the environmental toxins and pollutants and first and foremost first and foremost in that area is built beans on that one is mold mold mycotoxins bacterial toxins from water damage in your home. You may be sitting there thinking my home doesn't have that my home is brand new I don't really care about what your opinion is on this people you need to get tested your life depends on it the families life depends on the dog and the pets and everybody's life depends on that home not having water damage leading to mold and bacterial exposure lots of new information coming out on this every single day. In addition to all the other things you know the EMF and the pesticides and all these things that we talk about and then to kind of wrap up the live well everybody has to be under car practice care the caripractors are the neurologists they are they're the real neurologist they're the real neurologist specialist because not only do they diagnose neurologic related and bring related issues but they actually have the ability to fix them neurologists in the MD version don't they're just a bunch of pill pushers and they recommend CTs and MRIs. But the caripractors not only they phenomena must go skeletal but they are the neurologists to make sure everybody's under car practice care and finally holistic dentistry just really make sure that your teeth are are in good shape well taken care of again hundreds and hundreds of studies that link dental sickness or oral health issues to cardiovascular so very very important to make sure you're you're taking care of there and then you know you wrapped that up with think well. Yeah I mean it's so key so for a lot of people that are listening if you tried if you're following nutrition strategies you are exercising regularly you're sleeping you feel like you're sleeping well you feel like you're following all these things and you still have chronic symptoms you still not feeling good you have to really have to investigate what's happening in your mouth your oral health what's happening with your spine nervous system that's where car practice comes in what's happening in your house right as far as household mold or other toxins you may be exposed to you got to go through that that series and an assent of the medicines address all of those areas and then when you put all that together you're going to have a plan for for the 100 year heart. 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My friend was healthy, and then they had a stroke or had a heart attack. Here's the thing. If you are healthy, truly healthy, through the lens of, well, live well, think well, and test don't guess. If you are truly healthy in all those facets, you can't die. You can die of age-related, again, when you're 120 years of age, but you can't die of a heart attack. You can't die of a stroke. You can die of trauma, obviously. But you're not going to be a 50-year-old man running, going for a 5K and all of a sudden, dropped out of a heart attack. That's not going to happen if you're healthy. Exactly. If you are truly healthy, that wouldn't have. So whenever we think about someone who died of cardiovascular disease or cancer or some kind of autoimmune, or even stemming that into suicidal behavior, certainly which I'm not going to profess to be an expert in that area, but a healthy person in the lens of, well, live well, think well, doesn't have anxiety, stress, or suicidal ideations, and they don't. So the idea is, is that if you are truly healthy, you never get sick. Or let me say, it's not that you don't get sick. You're not going to die from any of these things now. A truly healthy person. I mean, certainly, if you are exposed to some kind of environmental talks and you may manifest the symptoms of your immune system kicking in to heal. But let me also stem into, think well, so I make sure that I hit this topic, is that the think well may be more important than all of these different issues that we talked about, the eat well and the live well. So the think well, as we look at the literature, we know that people who have anxiety, stress, depression have a much higher risk of cardiovascular disorders. We know that people with depression actually had a 10 times higher risk of being hospitalized for COVID over the last several years. So we need to really make sure that people find their happy place. And I think that happiness really stems from these areas inside of think, well, where we focus on our spirituality. We focus on our purpose. You know, what do we hear from? I'm here to change the world of cardiovascular disease. You know, you have all the different things that you're here for. We're also here to be, you know, husbands and fathers. And again, wrapping that back into spirituality, what we're here for to serve our creator. But that passion and purpose, having that sense and having gratitude is huge on self acceptance. And then the sense of community, social isolation is a massive, massive killer. People who identify themselves as socially isolated, they don't have a good community friends, family, support systems. They die very young. They die much, much, much quicker. And then ultimately our sense of security, safety. Do we feel safe in our homes? Do we feel safe in our job and our workspace? Do we feel safe in our relationships? Safe financially, you know, as well. There's a lot of things that go into that. So we want people to really take a focus on that think well aspects. Certainly as a cardiologist, we've never got any training and any of the things that I discuss right now, but certainly not in that think well space. But you know, there's a lot of different people out there who can help in this arena as well. But I just want to really identify that this is a problem. And it needs to be taken care of to preserve your longevity. Yeah, for sure. For a long-gen, Jeopardy perspective, just understanding you have a purpose. A lot of people, especially as they get older, they retire, whatever it is. And they lose that purpose. And I always say, you've got to have a why that makes you cry, right? So a purpose statement or a why that really inspires you to the point where you can get in tears. And then that's going to drive you and it's going to drive good behaviors in your life that help lead you towards a really healthy, long life. Yeah, because not everyone is maybe going to have the purpose or the why to want to change the world. You know, I'm a global level, you know, as my goals, you know, would be in yours as well. But maybe your why is, yeah, to be a spouse, to be a parent, to be a brother or sister, to be a friend, to be involved in charitable, you know, causes, to again, be a steward of, you know, religion and spirituality, to be a steward of the environment. And that really is, is available to anyone and everyone of every single age. Yeah, it's, it's, it's the best antidepressant ever studied is when you go out and serve somebody else, right? If you're depressed, if you're anxious, if you're feeling these kind of this, this sort of like troubled mood, right? Just going out, taking your mind off yourself and just going out and serving, helping other people is the greatest antidepressant. So really powerful stuff. Well, great, Dr. Jack, I know you've got a, obviously you've got your bestselling book, the Paleo cardiologist where people can learn more about this and also naturalheartdoctor.com. Where are they going to find them when they go check out your website? Yeah, we're trying to, you know, just identify to people that hey, we are the worldwide leaders in cardiovascular health, Mayo Clinic, Cleveland Clinic are the worldwide leaders in cardiovascular disease. But, you know, we know your cardiovascular condition and that we want to be able to help you with that particular condition and that's what we do at that natural heart doctor. And it really is just, I've seen so much pain and suffering from unnecessary pharmaceuticals, unnecessary surgeries, unnecessary sickness from people. And I've been on the, on the wrong side of this equation, God bless them and a women in working emergency rooms and trauma centers, but for everything else mainstream medicine is not your answer. I promise you. Yeah, absolutely. Total agreement. And thanks so much for your time, Dr. Jack, you're always well-then-along. Always enjoy our conversations. Guys, check them out, naturalheartdoctor.com. And we'll see you on a future interview. Be blessed, everybody. Well, that's all for this show. And I want to thank you again for spending your valuable time with me today. 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