Mercedes Javid & Reza Farahan: Book Launch & Shakeups

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Money doesn't make you an asshole, but if you're an asshole and with a ton of money, you're gonna be a bigger asshole. Why are you looking at me? No, I didn't mean to. I didn't mean to look in that direction. Why are you looking right at me? Jeff Lewis has issues. Hey, welcome to Jeff Lewis has issues. In today's episode, Mercedes Javid and Reza Farhan joined the show. We talk about Reza's book launch, work travel and office shakeups. Wow, you've been all over the world. I just love to see you two back together again. That too. I love it. And can we talk about how hot Mercedes looks? I mean, let's talk about it. Yeah. Did you do your own makeup today? It looks good. I did. He did. Did you say the same thing? Yeah. Are you serious? I looked at her makeup, I go, oh, I wonder if she had it done. No. 100%. Yeah, I'm trying to learn. Wow, are you doing YouTube tutorials? So I was gonna do, I was also saying, I wanna do more content. I wanna like close my escrows and just become like a content creator. You did a great job on your makeup today. She did. She looks, she's in her like hot girl era. I'm a mess lately, but no, thank you though. The story is around yourself. I know it's been a minute. You and I talked this morning and I called her and I said, hey, I wanna say to you, I wanna schedule a dinner one on one with us. I miss us. And you know, now that I'm, and you guys know this, when you're done with filming, first of all, you lose touch with all your friends when you're filming. And then when you're done, it's like you kinda wanna start to reconnect. So I called Mercedes today. I meant to call you Reza. And I said, let's schedule a dinner. Yeah, and Leon has been wanting to too, but tomorrow night is gonna be such a great reunion because we're all gonna hang out. All right, so tomorrow, your new book is released, correct? Tomorrow is the release day. The memoirs of a gay shot comes out. Yes. All right, so we have tickets to the book signing. It's sold out. Oh, you sold out. We sold out. Oh, congrats. Yes. Yeah, I bought two tickets to just have like in my pocket, just in case. Yes. And I gave them to Judge Lauren Lake, who's gonna come, because it is sold out. Does she wanna come to Cheesecake Factory? Yeah, I have her come to Cheesecake before. Yes. So what's the plan exactly? Can we talk about what the logistics are for tomorrow? We're going to Cheesecake, at what time? 5.30. The book signing's at seven. Crystal's moderating. Yes. God, I can't believe you sold out. That was a hard sell. It was. It was. And I was scared because Mares told me she had gone there for another book launch. Yes. I'm not gonna mention the name of the person, because they're also from Bravo. Oh. They're also from Bravo, and it was sparsely, like it was not sold out. And I was having a nightmare that you guys would come to support. Was it Derit? On Bird Ends. It was. It was, she was Crickets. Nobody came for her. Nobody came for her. Oh my God. Who was it? It was Derit. No, it was not Derit. Signing was Crickets. No, it wasn't Derit. It was not Derit. She's gotta finish that book because she spent the advance on that Kelly bag. Yeah, she should get it. I just watched that last night, and I was like, what is she saying? So she was like, I need to shoot the covers. I can put out the cover so I can write the book. I was like, what are you talking about? You think you're going like 10 steps backwards. But that's why she got mad at Amanda. I'm sorry, I'm team Derit. I'm team Derit. Oh, okay, I have this situation. Am I the only one here? Yeah. Why? Why would you be posting the cover before you have someone else write the book for you? Well, it's to get hype and excitement for the book. I didn't do that. My book was written a long time ago. My show got canceled, so they didn't want to put it out. Yes, but I mean, you have, your book is interesting and has content, it has substance. I mean, obviously you're leading with that. The cover is, you know, that's secondary. That doesn't even matter the cover. Not only that, but I used an old photo from childhood for my cover. That's also not why we're team Derit, because we're not team Derit because of the way that Derit acts. People got mad at me on my pod because I was team Kyle. Because I said, I think that Derit throwing PK under the bus week after week and calling him an alleged full blown alcoholic and now saying he doesn't want to be involved. I thought that was gonna be bad for her. And Kyle was saying that's gonna be bad for you. And then everyone got upset that they- I think she's just completely self-involved. She refuses to hear anyone else's opinion or narrative. She shuts people down. I've noticed she distracts, she walks away. Like she has no interest in hearing your opinion. The late thing, the keeping everybody waiting on a tarmac. What about everyone- Erica's going to trial. What about everyone ganging up on her though? And the thing that's driving me nuts is- It's a long time coming. We're all, we all feel this way. We all, we all, we all. Everyone is saying it. Most people do feel that way. Everyone is saying it. Most people do feel that way. Well, the montage that they put on every single person that Kyle had a scene with telling them one by one, she's so late, she's out of it. I'm worried about her, look at her spending. She's unraveling, she's unhinged. I don't think the producers did her any favors when they- Come on, Raza. She's shopping and she hasn't made her house payment. I mean, that's kind of nuts. I mean, it doesn't seem rational, right? But if you're my friend, you're not talking to everyone. I might be, it might be my therapy, retail therapy. It might be helping me going through a divorce right now. Well, if I'm your friend, I'm going to tell you to stop shopping because you need to make your house payment. But tell me to stop shopping. Well, I will, and if you don't listen, I'm going to say to the other chumps, Res is not listening, he's going crazy. Well, the person that does not, that takes her side no matter what is Bo's and- Oh, Rachel Zoe. Thank you. Yeah. Those two are always like, yes, whatever she says. Whatever she says. But I'm surprised that she didn't react, Rachel didn't react when Doreet made it all about her and what she's going through and that she's late. And I'm looking down the table and I'm thinking, Erica's going through lawsuits, Rachel's going through a divorce. All these people, I mean, Sutton's going through things, everybody's going through things. But see how her problems are paramount to everyone else's. She has zero respect for everyone else, zero. She's only concerned about herself. Yeah, she actually- Sutton's not allowed to be upset. She gets 300 grand a month. No, Sutton also said to me when we were at that Threads Dinner that she was like, I didn't get any sympathy from Doreet about her separation, her divorce. Like they wouldn't acknowledge it. Back to your book. Yes. I'm very excited for the release tomorrow. Thank you. Now, I know that tickets for Barnes & Noble was $34, but how much is the book? If people just want to go on Amazon and buy it? It's like $27.99, I believe. Okay, all right, so Annie read the whole thing. And she sent me notes a few weeks ago. So I went through all of it. I mean, it's juicy. You do not hold back. I did not. I mean, at all. No. Is there anything that you're nervous that will come out? Are there conversations you're gonna be happy to have next week? There's a lot of stuff that's coming out that I'm nervous. And I didn't realize how honest and raw, because I wrote it literally several years ago. We tweaked the final chapter, the last page to include the Valley Persian style, but the book essentially was done in 2022. Speaking of. It's gonna be a big event tomorrow. I know. It's gonna be- I mean, a lot of people tomorrow. Yes, a lot of people. My mom, brother-in-law, sister, nephew are supposed to come. Should I bring my mom? She's gonna wanna come. Seriously, my mom. I don't know if he has any extra tickets, but I'm sure we could find her. She can have my seat. I can call and see. No, no, I'll call. I'll stay at the Cheesecake Factory bar. So how many of us, because we bought 10. We bought 10 tickets. Wait, do we get the books though? Yes. They all come with books. Okay, good. And they're signed. So who's going? Ian, Doug, Crystal, I guess won't need a ticket. Jameson, MJ, Lea, Ben, Mando, Kerr. Okay, so we still have two tickets, right? Yeah. So we need to give those two tickets to Chumps. And then I'll text all these people in front, but yeah. Okay. I'm sure Ryan would wanna come. Yeah, do you wanna just text them right now? See if he wants to come? All right, and then we have one other ticket to give away. Mm-hmm. All right, we'll figure it out. Don't worry. Amazing. I'm excited. I'm so excited. I'm nervous. Now, Crystal's not gonna put us to sleep, right? No. Oh my God. Crystal is definitely not gonna put us to sleep. She has a robust list of very intriguing questions to ask me. I have to say, Crystal, she posted something this weekend with her dancing with her daughter. I was like, damn, she's hot. Yes. Crystal's hot. Yeah, she is. And very tall. Very tall. Very impressive. I'm a shoddy. Yes. Yeah. Oh my God. So, am I allowed to ask about last week because last week in every episode that I listened to Amanda Hirsch, Todrick Hall, the comedian. Whitney. Whitney Cummings, and all this stuff was going on about Annie. And then I asked Kean last night during the pre-show interview that he does, tell us about anything interesting that you did this weekend. I said, he goes, what would you like for breakfast? And I said, why are you asking me what I want for breakfast and not Annie? And then he left me on red. Oh, you didn't respond, Kean. Oh, you did respond. I think he responded with, thank you, got it, can't wait. Are you following all this, Reza? Yes. Okay. She is working from home this week. So, about two years ago, I had fired someone who worked for me an employee and I very much mishandled it. I was very angry and I was upset, really disappointed in the employee. And I should have taken a few days before I had the conversation. And I didn't. And it turned into something very dramatic. And I very much regret it. So I told myself, moving forward, that I do not want to handle any sort of employee write-ups or when I'm reprimanding people, I want to make sure that I handle it correctly and professionally. So, when all this stuff came to light, I had walked in on Friday and I very calmly, very calmly just told her, obviously, I want you to go ahead and take down the cameras, go back to the, and I literally was talking like that. Go back to the hotel and this is what I expect of you. And this is what I want done by today and this is what I want done by the weekend. There was no discussion, really. I just gave her a directive. Then my attorney called her, had a long conversation with her, wrote her up. And then Shane, I asked Shane, I said, look, I think you should just tell her to work from home this week while I really kind of sit with this. And I want to make sure that I don't make a rash decision. I want to make sure that I don't make an emotional decision because bottom line, I really do like Annie a lot and I've had a lot of fun with her. So, I want to handle this in the best way that I know how. If you asked me today, I would say that I would tell you she's fired. But I'm giving myself until the end of the week and I really want to make sure that I'm not in a place, in an emotional place because I'm extremely disappointed. And I'm very upset with her but I don't want to make any sort of rash decisions. So, I thought it would be best because I also don't want to have any altercations. I don't want to talk about this right now. I'm not in a place to talk about it. So, I feel like I'm going to wait till Friday and then we will see how to proceed. I'll figure out how to proceed. Okay, as a fan of the show, can I ask you a couple of questions? You can ask me whatever you want. Okay, so when Kean worked for you the last time that he worked for you, he would make Reels on every single episode when I would open up Instagram, there would be a great soundbite that would then make me tune in and watch the show if I didn't listen live, okay? Yes. And when he left, those kinds of Reels left. And then when he came back, they didn't come back and I asked him, why aren't you guys doing that anymore? You know how some people were upset that Sirius took cameras away, which for that I understood it was like a liability for their budget, but this time that this has all come up, I'm curious about what happened to that? Well, we have obviously, when you hire a different social media person, they have a different style, right? I do like any style. I think her Reels are good, but you brought up a really good point that it's funny that I was thinking about over the weekend. Do I want, rather than, do I take the money that I've been paying her? And do I put that towards video, videoing the show again? And I thought about maybe having a conversation with Jim Thompson to see if that's even an option. Can I spend the money that I would otherwise spend on her salary and put it towards video? Because that's what people really want. They want the video of the show, not a Reel. So that is something that I have considered. I will tell you that it's more than just the infraction itself. So obviously I deal with a lot of different employees and people make mistakes and they're written up or they're reprimanded. I think it's very telling on how someone reacts to the infraction, how they respond, or how they react. And I think that's very telling. And I will tell you, she didn't do herself any favors. After my attorney spoke to her, she said, she goes, it looks like you posted 11 times on your own Instagram, but you haven't done any posts for Jeff, which is what you were paid to do. Now, people need to understand, I spend a lot of money taking her to New York. So I'm investing in her. And I don't believe I got any sort of return on my investment. And this is the second time it's happened. This is the second write up for the exact same thing. So that's upsetting. But even then, you and I, Reza, talked about a little about accountability this morning. When somebody comes to you, there's no such thing as I'm sorry, but. And so when someone makes excuses, exaggerates, lies to cover their own ass, that's a problem. When someone is not truly apologetic, when they're not accountable, that's a problem. Cause for me as an employer, I think you haven't learned and you're gonna do it again. So unless you say, I fucked up, I thought of this as a vacation and I didn't do my job. And I'm extremely sorry, whatever. That's not what happened according to my attorney. So my attorney kind of relayed all the responses. Lot of blaming other people and some flat out exaggerations, if not lies. So that's upsetting. I also think when she had said that she was gonna take down her New York posts, which we didn't ask her to do, but she had volunteered to take down her New York posts. Not only did she not take them down, she doubled down and did another post from New York saying that New York's not the vibe and she's upset and she was very much trying to solicit condolences, which I think backfired on her. And I thought that was a really bad move. And my attorney called me and she said, have you seen Annie's Instagram reel? And I said, no, she goes, I mean, this is just self sabotage at this point. So she's not helping herself. That was my next question is that when you are, you make it really clear that your job to be around you guys is like a pinch me job because you're really generous with the perks and it's a really fun lifestyle. So we all see it, we watch it, that's why we tune in is to Arizona and New York and all of these fun other things that we all get to live vicariously, but we know you're generous. We know you're in restaurants that they would never go to. And then when I was listening last week about the whole Michael Beck part and Todrick Hall, I was like, yeah, what was her reaction? Because usually Jeff, if somebody apologizes to you, like that's where you are like, okay, you're reasoned with that. But that's why I was curious what the reaction was to like, we're getting the drink order and the little things and the big things. It's, I'm waiting for a text from my attorney any second, but the excuses were crazy. Like I didn't, I wasn't able to work on the plane because Jeff insisted I watch Ladies of London. That's a flat out lie. I was on, I have my own iPad. I don't give a fuck what you watch. We don't have a Ladies of London cast member on the show this week. Otherwise that could become mandatory. So I say to Shane, I say to Kean, even Annie, hey, I've got Margot coming in from Ladies of London. We need to watch the shows. That becomes a mandatory thing. That was never said because I had my own programs to watch. I don't give a fuck what you watch. That was why we didn't do the reel on Tuesday. We didn't do the reel on Wednesday or Monday. We didn't do the reel on Tuesday because at the American Dream Mall, I forced her to drink. That is also a lie. So I, when we sit down at a table or a bar, when anyone like a drink, you can order whatever you want. You can have one, you can have five. I don't give a fuck. I certainly am not forcing anyone to drink. But she wasn't able to do the reel because she was forced to drink. She was forced to drink on Tuesday. She was forced to watch Ladies of London. Then we started, there was a whole victim. Basically what happened is the hotels, at a certain hour, I don't feel safe, not dead bolting and locking the hotel room doors. I just don't feel safe. I've got a nine year old. I've got a very attractive nanny who someone could follow back to, who knows. But when she disappeared on two nights without letting us know, and this is my hotel room, right? It's my hotel suite. I have a second bedroom she's sharing with the nanny. I just found out yesterday that she had someone to the room. Now it wasn't a hookup, but it was a friend, a male friend. I have a nine year old daughter sharing that room. I didn't know. I had no idea someone was in that room. But that room adjoins to my suite. And apparently this guy was there for an hour. I knew nothing about it. This was Impanada night, the night that we got hungry and we walked to Impanada's. She had someone at the hotel room. I don't know if it was a pre-party situation. I don't know, but I just found this out yesterday. This is a fucking work trip. Then she tells my attorney, I felt unsafe when they locked me out of the room. Well, if you felt unsafe in a five star hotel, then maybe you shouldn't be walking around the streets of New York at 1 a.m. in the morning. But I locked those doors to protect the people that were staying there. And so she texted Alyssa, listen, unlock the door. It wasn't a big deal. We didn't lock you out all night. You didn't have to sleep in the hallway. All you had to do was text Alyssa when you got home so she could unlock the door and let you in. And we did that twice. The two nights she disappeared. One night she was in a robe. She said, good night. And then that was the night. Apparently she had a guest at the hotel. I did not know that. Then they went out. That was night number one. Night number two is we went to family dinner and I turned around and she was gone. Never said a word. Went out with Michael Beck. Never said a word. This is a problem. And then does that mean that Alyssa has to stay awake and make sure that she can unlock the door? I don't know. I did not. I would not be to be relied upon. Because we have those same rules when we go on a Bravo trip. When we're on a cast trip, we have rules. Once I go to sleep, you may not knock on my door, send me a text message because I cannot wake up. Mayor, it's true or false. And be relied on for that. When we're in a cast trip for Bravo, they don't, we are to be, we have obligations. I was listening and you had Andy Cohen or you were with Andy and he was talking about like, oh, let her go out. As long as she's getting her job done, let her go out and have fun in New York. That was that same day that he went to the, you were talking about the Empadonna Place. But like, exactly. Like I would, if I were in her shoes, I would enjoy my job more and take it more seriously than any experience, especially with Michael Beck as someone that you can hang out with in LA. But when you're young, sometimes you don't realize, you're saying it's a pinch me situation. But sometimes when you're young and you're in the pinch me situation, you don't have perspective. You don't realize until it's too late. I, you know, and that's, you know, I've had a ton of comments, you know, let her go, don't let her go, give her another chance. And I've really thought about this, am I doing her any favors? Because I've had pinch me situations that I've fucked up and I have learned. And I mean, I still screw up. The difference is, is that my work ethic was never been in question. It was my mouth, right? My mouth and my attitude that has got me in trouble repeatedly. I have fucked up a lot of major opportunities all through my 20s, through my 30s, through my 40s, through my 50s. And, you know, it's, it's learning. Now some of us are a little hard headed like me and it takes a long time to kind of learn, but I have learned, I have learned. And, Right. Well that was some, yes, you're right, I fucked that up. I also think the challenging thing about your office in general is that the lines are very blurred. And I think what I'm hearing you say, correct me if I'm wrong, is we can have fun, we can do all these things, but I need to know number one, you're doing your job first. That's what I'm hearing. I don't think that's blurred, right? Because Jeff is serious, like he's really strong about, you get to have fun while you work, but you have to get your job done first. I think that's what Chris said. You know what Kean was talking about that, Kean, are you and Mike? It's okay. Where you were saying that, you know, it's hard for some people coming in because they don't really understand the priorities. The priorities are the job. How can you not understand that though? This is a work environment. You're not my, we're not here because I'm your best friend. But when we're in New York, the show, we're done at two and then we go to the mall and then there's something else. But then the separation is that Kean and I then get back to the hotel at 10 p.m. We open our laptops and that's when we are starting our day. It's easy then to be like, okay, I've already had two drinks, I'm gonna go on and do this. It's 10 o'clock, work is over, but it's not over until your shit's done. And that was there. 100%. But there's a certain amount of autonomy and if you're not good without structure, without a supervisor breathing down your neck and letting you know to submit your whatever. You guys talk about it all the time that you are working late and that you're staying there and doing your job. The two of you guys talk about that on air. I'm not with you, I know. She also said, which infuriates me because this is a situation, I have mishandled a lot of situations with employees. This is one that I really finally feel I've done right. She said to my attorney, I don't think it's okay for a grown man to be attacking a woman. I'm sorry, what attack occurred? Because I calmly told you to go back to the hotel and then I refused to speak to her. I said, hello, that was it. I refused to have this conversation because I didn't think I could control myself with my anger or disappointment or whatever, hurt. So I had Shane communicate with her and then I had my attorney communicate with her. I've had zero communication. This is the concern I have. So far I'm hearing I couldn't do the reel on the plane because of Ladies of London. I couldn't do the reels of American Dream Mall because she forced me to drink. I felt unsafe in the hallway. Do you hear any accountability here? I felt attacked by a grown man. I'm not hearing any accountability at all here. I think the content that you and Kean used to do should be the stuff that I wanna see. Like, because you were saying that you couldn't do BTS while you were doing principal photography. So I miss the content that you guys used to have. I think, I mean, she does do good work and I think we've been happy with the clips. That's not the problem. And she did, I mean, over the weekend, she did a lot of work. She sent a lot of clips and a lot of notes, but I was really sad to hear about all the excuses she had with Marlowe. It feels very ungrateful to me. It feels very entitled. It feels very spoiled. I'm really bummed out. And I will tell you, I love to train and mentor these kids, but when they don't learn or grow from the experience, I get bored real fast. But to play devil's advocate, Jeff, sometimes when you're young and someone is pointing out certain things, you go into this protective defense mode and you don't realize, you just wanna mitigate and you think by denying or deflecting, you're helping to bring the situation down, not realizing that there's no accountability and you're making the situation worse. The response is worse than the infraction. Totally. And when you're young, you don't realize that trying to minimize it is making things worse. That video on Friday kind of was like, I don't know, like a last straw. I very much like watching Annie as her own content creator. That's where I think she shines. She's great. I love Annie. And maybe that's what she should focus on. If I could only follow one person on Instagram, it could be Annie. And I think she's really entertaining. On the show, you had an issue before. This was maybe last year, months ago, and it bothered you, you guys talked about it. And then you said, since then, there have been times where you've said, I know Annie's doing her own thing. I at least know now. I don't feel like it's being done behind my back. But now at least I know. And maybe it's just sounding like a lot of confusion is what I'm hearing. I said to her, my Instagram followers have plateaued. I said, we were growing, growing, growing. What happened? She said, when we stopped doing behind the scenes, we stopped growing. I said, well, we fit, because Brava would not allow me to do behind the scenes. So I said, okay, we're done with the show. This is an important week coming up. We want to, I want to start behind the scenes again. I want to start getting engagement on the Instagram because we all know that Instagram is a big source of income for us, right? Otherwise, they wouldn't even be on Instagram. So then, you know, to find out that, A, I don't have one behind the scenes reel posted. I don't have New York. Oh, here was, this was another excuse too. That every day, and people were saying, oh, well, she doesn't know the rules and you should have a handbook and you should set up boundaries. And she absolutely does know the rules. So what happens is we filmed today, I have a reel from today by the end of the day today. Because she didn't work at all during the week, she was sending me archived reels. So now archived reels, we have about seven, are for rainy days, right? If we're traveling, if she's sick, they're archived for a reason because they're not our strongest reels, but we do have something in our case. She's saying, I did do the work because I sent you the archived reels. I said, well, we've already done the work. You've already done the archived reels. So that's not doing the work. So look, I couldn't be any clearer about what is expected of her. And remember, she was written up for this exact same thing, two trips ago. Exact same thing where nothing, I didn't get much, you know, I'm paying all this money to take her to New York. I get very little and she gets 11 posts on her Instagram and builds her following. So my feeling is, I think maybe that's what you should focus on, right? This is clearly where your passion is. Maybe that's what you should focus on. And maybe I need somebody who's not so interested in being in the spotlight, who can help me work on building my social media. And, you know, again, James said, I didn't have a problem with the fact that she wants to be an influencer and that she wants to build her Instagram just as long as it doesn't conflict with the job. But don't use my platforms and my money to build your own platform. It's sounding like possibly she felt her role in New York in addition to capturing footage was maybe like to be fun. And that was not what you were expecting. I think what you do is you shoot the content while you're there. 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Let's take line five, Ken in Salt Lake City. Hello? Hi. Oh, why does it say Ken? That's weird. Are you Ken? It's Kim. Oh, Kim. Kim. I'm sorry. Hi, shout out, Shane. Shout out, Ken. Sorry, Ken. What's your comment? Totally fine. So I have a comment about Annie, but I just have to say I'm so excited for tomorrow night. I bought tickets. I'm flying in to come see Reza. Oh my God, thank you. I had, I'm so excited. I had never seen Shaz and Funset. I know you and Mercedes from this show, because I'm an avid listener. And I just fell in love with both of you. Like, I love your soul. It's good people. So I'm so excited. You have to fly out just for that. My comment about Annie is, Jeff, I feel like you take such good care of your employees and they have so many good benefits and perks like Mercedes was saying. And we all love Annie. Annie's super talented. I think she's gonna go super far in life. I don't think you'll be doing for any favors. Like, she's not gonna grow. She's still young. She needs to know what consequences are. Because otherwise, it's like, oh, it's fine. It's okay. You're doing the same thing with some other employers. She may get a great opportunity and she'll be ship tanned in a minute. I know, Kim. But again, there's the other side of me that really cares deeply for her. I enjoy working with her. We have a lot of fun together. She's on, she's on. So that's kind of what, that's where I'm at. I'm really kind of undecided at the moment. I can see how you're torn. I see they are like your kids. Yeah, yeah. I kind of feel that way, you know? So I appreciate your call. Steve in Chicago. I believe that's line six. Hi, Steve. Hey, Jeff, how you doing? Good. I will say that I think that since Annie has been on the show, she's kind of evolved into her own person, which is good, but I think she's taken a lot of the opportunities that you've given her and kind of ran with that and expanded perhaps the initial runway you've given her to be more than possibly it should be at this point. Now, I'm not saying that's bad or good. I'm saying she's taken those opportunities and she's making her own. But I think if we look at the Trek history, not only with Annie, but let's go back to Joey. There seems to be like this alcohol thing that happens when they're out with you. And it's not you. I think it's just that they get so caught up in the environment and living a life with the chumps that are outside of the station, outside of the show, that sometimes that line gets blurred for them to go back to being professional after they've just had four or five hours of fun with people who aren't necessarily doing work for the show. Well, first of all, I do wanna tell you, Steve, this has absolutely nothing with alcohol. Like I don't believe Annie, I've never seen her over in Dolce. I don't think she takes advantage of that in any way, shape, or form. It is Joey reminiscent, but I feel like it's a little different. I think what's Joey reminiscent about it is that it's the same mistakes over and over and over again. That's the Joey reminiscent part about it. That we're acknowledging it, we're apologizing, but there's a lot of butts and a lot of justifying. And I'm not seeing a lot of change. Well, I think that she is a good part of the show. I do. But I think like anything else, I think that at the same time, you are an employer and you do have an expectation. And I think that if you feel that your brand ultimately is suffering or is going to suffer, I think that you have a responsibility to yourself and to your family to do what's best for you. And again, I hope that this second chance is the learning experience, but if it's not, I think that you know as a grown individual and the things that you've gone through what you have to do to help her further down the road for herself. Thank you, Steve. I appreciate your call. I think she's gonna do really well. I agree with all the people that see her talent. Well, I disagree and I'll tell you why. I mean, look, this is what I'm hoping for her, but we have a whole history of chumps who have had opportunities that screw up and they've just disappeared. I hope that's not the case. Hope she's young enough where she learns her lessons. Maybe she'll learn a lesson with me. This isn't absolute. I have not made a decision, but I will say that the terms of our agreement will change. If I elect to keep her, the terms will change. I think maybe I gave her too much too quickly. That is my fault. I think for now I would keep her out of the studio and off radio and I would limit her opportunities outside of her job for now because she has blurred the lines. So, but she may not like, because I've kind of thought about what, okay, if she stays, how do I structure this? She may not like the new agreement. She may not like the new terms. I do think, I try to think about my mistakes and I've made a few recently, so I think I have like an HR appointment on Wednesday. I made a big mistake. It was my fault. I mishandled a situation and I'm gonna go into that appointment and I'm gonna apologize. And there'll be no buts, there'll be no justifications, there'll be no, I mean, that's what I've learned. I don't, and hopefully everything will be okay. Oh my God, when is this? I think it's Wednesday. But then, you know, with the Andy Cohen thing too, I fucked that up, right? I've got a whole history of fuck ups. I don't expect, you know, I'll be fortunate if I'm asked back to BravoCon. I don't expect to ever be hosting a panel again. But here's what I did. I was able to repair that damage with Andy because I went in truly, you know, apologetic and accountable and I didn't blame anyone else. And I think people receive that well. Well, can I ask you a question? Did you watch it back in full? I never watched it. I didn't need to watch it. Okay. I didn't need to watch it. It would just probably have tortured me a little more about how I handled things. So I knew I fucked up and I apologized without excuses. And he, you know, and I believe he's assured that I won't do that again. I think when you start to make excuses or blame the other person is when people think that you haven't learned your lesson. I have learned my lesson. So if- It felt like it came out of nowhere. It didn't seem like you were intentional. It seemed like you were actually more just putting on- I was unprofessional. I was unprofessional. Didn't seem like it was rooted in resentment. Like, you know, it started off good and then it just went left. I had a situation when we were filming the Valley Persian style. Tenine disclosed to me that she was really upset that Skye rubbed her serum on her dog. And although I felt like outing Skye was the right thing to do, I realized that I put Tenine in a compromising position and it upset her. And even though I felt like in the moment it was the right thing to do, I genuinely apologized. Like, I was sorry I upset Tenine. I was sorry that I disclosed something. She didn't want me to disclose. Mind you, I was inebriated. I didn't say, but I didn't do any of that. I was genuinely sorry. Tenine was gonna come for me. But because I apologized to her wholeheartedly, she really didn't have anything to say. If you hadn't said it, then everyone would just be thinking it. And it's like being in a chokehold is not how we wanna watch reality TV. Right, but she deserved a genuine apology from me because she didn't want me disclosing that. Let's take tests in New Jersey line five. Hi, Tess. Come on. Hello. Hi. Hi. Oh my God, first time on the radio. I'm like nervous. Oh, don't be nervous. Don't be nervous. You know us. I know. I do. I've known you since the garbage man on the first flipping out got fired. So you've known me a long time. We're good. We're old friends. I do, my sister and I wanted to apply to be the new garbage people back then. And we're like professional people. We were gonna take a demotion to taking your garbage out. I really would love a shout out chain. A shout out to us. I would like to be the unofficial HR consultant. Okay. Thank God. Because you're hired. I've been, thank you. And I'll do it Grotis. Or you could buy me a drink at American Dream. I live like five miles away from there. So what is your comment, Tess? My comment on this, I have a lot of comments, but on this particular situation, cut your losses professionally. It's not gonna work out. She's already using language like she feels attacked and you're, you know, plying her with drinks and that's why she can't do her job, which Housewives have claimed, and Housewives that are in lawsuits with Bravo right now have claimed that their behavior happened because they were given drinks. So it's already, she's already laying the groundwork for, you know, hostile work environment, harassment, blah, blah, blah. If you wanna remain friends, then that's fine. But professionally, I just think you're putting yourself in harm's way. She's not that, like, she thinks she shouldn't be attacked by a grown man. How old is she? Was she 26? Yeah, 26. Yeah, 26. You know, I just felt that was kind of a, again, excuses, deflection. I don't think she's litigious. And to be honest with you, I never really got worried about that because I have so many witnesses and there's a big file. And, you know, so I've documented everything. And so I'm less concerned about that. And I kind of feel like that's an empty threat. But I understand you're former HR. Yes. Yeah. I mean, I understand what you're saying. Fortune 500, Fortune 500 company and lawyers, even if somebody sends a letter, we would pay them just because it costs so much money to go on. She's a grown woman. I was a director when I was 26, 27 year old. I mean, since she, and as a fan, in the last couple weeks, I've noticed less posts on her posts on her personal page have exploded. I mean, I don't know what the numbers are, but if you tallied the number of posts on her personal versus on yours, it's gotta be two to one. Yeah, at least. Can we take a line one, Christine Baltimore? Hi, Christine. Hi, Jess, how are you? I'm good, thank you. So here's what I want to say. Okay. You and I are the same age, but how old is Annie? 26. Okay, my son's 27. These kids today, and you call them your kids, you know what I mean? So I just would really love for this to be a learning experience for her to get another chance maybe. Is she an elevator? Who, me? No, it was the ring. The ring thing. Oh, okay, go ahead. Sorry, I unplugged it. Nevermind. I just really would love for this to be a learning, growing experience for her. Like, we don't need another jump to bite the dust. I know, I know. And like, I just think about how much you giggle when she's on the air. I know. And the thing she says. She's funny. She is. And she's, hey, Razla and Mercedes. Hey sweetie. Hi. How are you, congratulations. I love listening to her. This is why I haven't pulled the trigger. Let me say this, Jeff. I'm very, very young. If I were Annie, and I would want to keep my job no matter what restrictions, modifications, alterations, whatever new work environment you set up for me, my personality, I would come back, I would kill the game, I would regain your trust and regain all of the perks and everything that you used to give me. I would win you over and gain those things back from you. I would prove myself to you. I like this scenario. I do. I do think that's her intention. She sent, you know, like 10 clips in the last two days. I mean, she is. I hope that that's her intention. I would come back and kill the game for you. On the positive, like what we love about Annie is her personality and I feel like she makes you happy. Like just having her around. And you enjoy her so much, she makes you laugh harder than anybody. I know. I love those one-liners that come out of the corner. Yeah, one word. I do love it. Yeah, there's not even a whole sentence, just anything she reacts to. But I thought about this too. It's like, am I hiring someone to entertain me or am I hiring someone to work? Maybe a little bit of both. Yeah, well, we need a little both. We need a little both. It's gotta be the same thing. Exactly. I got that from Shane, I get entertained. And I get a lot of work out of him, same with Kean. For sure. But. It's harder to be a woman though. You know, she has her glam, she has to get herself together, but now she has to pull herself together and get things back on track with you. That's why I'm very torn and very divided and haven't made a decision. Cool. I'm very excited about tomorrow night. Thank you so much. I'm excited for the book signing and the crystal, I think is gonna do a great job. Yes, she is. He's not, he doesn't mean that. I do mean that, I do mean that. And then are we all gonna be able to ask questions too at the end? Yes, yes. Oh, is it a little Q and A happening? Yes, yep. I'm thinking of something juicy. Q and A. Oh, you think you're gonna ask a question? For sure. Don't get too drunk. Shout out, Shane. I'll drink a lot of cheesecake factors, I'll have the confidence in the world. Now, Annie can come tomorrow. She was planning on coming, I think she was, I thought. When we spoke last week. I think we're gonna, I think tomorrow we're gonna take that off. 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