Off-Air Show with Felger // Dating Advice with Alex Barth // Space Ships // April 1, 2026
32 min
•Apr 2, 2026about 2 months agoSummary
This off-air episode features hosts Felger and Alex Barth discussing dating app experiences, personal hobbies like golf, NHL fandom gatekeeping, and live coverage of NASA's lunar launch mission. The show balances casual relationship advice with sports commentary and space exploration updates.
Insights
- Modern dating dynamics have shifted dramatically toward app-based introductions, with traditional bar meetings becoming increasingly rare for serious relationships
- Sports radio audiences have narrow, local preferences—most listeners want Boston team coverage, not deep dives into Western Conference hockey or MLB prospects
- Private companies are becoming the primary drivers of space exploration, reducing the financial burden on government agencies while maintaining public interest
- Personality fit and time availability are critical relationship factors, often more important than initial chemistry
- Niche sports communities (like hockey) struggle with gatekeeping behavior that alienates casual fans and limits growth
Trends
Dating app fatigue and the paradox of choice in online dating platformsShift from broadcast radio to podcast-specific content allowing deeper, niche discussionsPrivate sector space exploration funding and commercialization of lunar missionsGenerational differences in how relationships form (apps vs. organic social interactions)Sports media audience segmentation by depth of knowledge and local vs. national interestWorkplace scheduling conflicts as a relationship barrier in demanding industriesSocial media as an alternative dating channel (Instagram DMs) competing with traditional appsVenue-based entertainment experiences (The Sphere) driving tourism and live event attendance
Topics
Online dating apps and relationship formationGolf as a competitive hobby and stress reliefNHL fandom and sports media audience preferencesNASA lunar missions and space explorationBoston sports culture and local media consumptionWorkplace-life balance and relationship sustainabilitySports radio vs. podcast content strategySocial media dating and DM slidingTemporary golf course conditions and seasonal playAthlete conduct and brand representationThe Sphere venue and immersive concert experiencesJaden Ivy religious commentary controversyTrayvion Henderson Bible verse tweetsPrivate space exploration funding modelsNews anchor personality types and public sparring
Companies
Shopify
E-commerce platform sponsor offering customizable themes, marketing tools, and shipping solutions for entrepreneurs
Miller Light
Original light beer brand sponsoring the Off-Air Show with 50+ years of brand history
NASA
Space agency conducting lunar launch mission with four astronauts, including one from Canada
SpaceX
Private space exploration company mentioned as example of privately-funded space industry
Chicago Bulls
NBA team that released player Jaden Ivy citing conduct detrimental to team following controversial statements
The Sphere
Las Vegas entertainment venue featuring immersive displays and hosting major musical acts
People
Alex Barth
Co-host discussing dating experiences, golf hobby, and filling in for Big Jim on the Off-Air Show
Felger
Main host discussing sports media strategy, space exploration, and athlete conduct controversies
Jake
Contributes questions and commentary on dating, golf, and space exploration topics
Big Jim Murray
Regular co-host absent from this episode due to memorial attendance
Jaden Ivy
Released by Bulls after making controversial religious commentary about Pride Month on Instagram Live
Trayvion Henderson
Tweeted Bible verses in apparent support of Jaden Ivy's religious commentary without direct commentary
Evan Bouchard
Example of niche NHL player knowledge that general sports audiences don't possess or care about
Conor McDavid
Elite NHL player that general audiences should know, contrasted with Evan Bouchard
Anthony Edwards
Used as example of star player who could express controversial views without being cut from team
John Morant
Example of player who faced conduct issues (gun incidents) but remained with team due to talent level
Kyrie Irving
Example of star player who expressed controversial views but maintained roster spot due to skill
Quotes
"It's tough out there. It's tough time."
Alex Barth•Early in episode discussing dating challenges
"If you have three or four people in a room who all agree with each other, that's terrible radio."
Felger•Mid-episode discussing show format
"Our sport is not popular. God, why can't people get that?"
Felger•During NHL discussion about niche audience
"The radio show is for the general audience. The podcast is for people who want to hear about Evan Bouchard."
Felger•Explaining content strategy differences
"He should have his say. Whether you agree with that or not, he should have his say."
Felger•Discussing Jaden Ivy free speech vs. team brand rights
Full Transcript
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So you always grill me about this, and I'm like, man, I'd love to be able to go in there and be like, yeah, it's going well. And then I'd seen somebody a little bit during the season. You did. I was. And then, you know, I'm like, well, I hope he asked me on the show soon. I can actually finally be confident about something. And then that ended. And now I'm back here with nothing to report. How'd you meet her? Apps. What app? What app? J-Date? Not J-Date. Come on. It's OK. No, it's not J-Date. No, because I'm unlike two of them. I think it was Hinge. Hinge. So you dated for a bit? Yeah, a couple months. And then what happened? Couple things. I don't think it was any one thing. It just clearly wasn't clicking. You know, on my end, one thing, she seemed like she had just gotten out of something. And I don't think she was totally over it. And so that's a little bit of a red flag to me. But she was still, she had her dip in her toe in a couple different holes. I don't think she was actually doing that. She was talking about them a lot. And I was just like, yeah, it's OK. Like I'm a rebate. Like if I'm a rebound five, but like that is what it is. And, you know, it's not it's not a little bit of a red flag for me personally. If other people are into that by all means, but. Oh, what happened to Big Jim? He had a memorial to go to. So he had to leave the show a little early and is Alex Barth is filling in for Big Jim. So that was that was one thing. Give me one more. One more. One more issue. Or is that it? That was kind for me, at least. Yeah. So we both worked a lot. So there wasn't a lot of like time. And I'm both busy. I'd be another one. Do you work that much? It was during football season. So it's. Do you work nights? Do you work weeknights? Tuesday, Thursday, always, sometimes. What do you do Tuesday and Thursday night? I do other like shows. I do other podcasts and stuff like that. So that's, you know, get home from Gillette. And I do one for Seal and S media. I do the one for Patriots. I was doing some stuff for Bleacher Report. So that, you know, that starts like six, seven o'clock. By the time I'm done with that, it's like eight o'clock and. You can't go out to dinner eight o'clock. Well, she would be working. She worked a night. Yeah. Sometimes. What did she do if you don't mind me asking? Like PR stuff. So she would have like events. And I see. So it's. Okay. They know his lineup. We'll stay at it. I'm staying at it. How old are you? Just turned 32. Come on, dude. I know. Clock's ticking. Jake, what's up with you? I got nothing to report. Nothing. Been off the ads. No apps. No, I mean, I sold the account in to lead them. I just have not been swiping or sending messages. And there's no chance that any of you can meet a human being through a human interaction. I will. I wish because I and this isn't relationships. This is just life. I am a shitty text. I don't text well. I don't come across well texting. I don't like doing it. I am so much more engaging in person. So when you have to go through the whole texting thing, it's like, and because everybody says I promise I'm better in person. It's like everybody's going to fucking say that. It's not true for everybody. It's true for me. Like I know that. So I wish everybody is there go out. You've got cards up and I'll find somebody on the apps or whatever. The like golden. They got to have a friend set you up with somebody. That's kind of the only way to do it in person. That's the only way strangers don't meet at bars. Of all my friends who are in like serious relationship, it's all apps are like introduced by somebody like going out of the way. They might meet at a bar, but it wasn't. They just showed up. Hey, let me buy a drink was, Hey, this, you know, we're all going to go meet, you know, we want you to meet this person, blah, blah, blah, that kind of thing. Where do you live? Quincy. That stuff just doesn't happen in Quincy. No, I guess not. I don't believe you. I don't believe you. I think there's people who go to bars and Quincy and meet other people. It has to happen. It has to. This is like a mythical world. You're speaking. I hope I find it someday. I feel bad for you and I feel bad for people of your. So the joke in my generation is like people who are in like relationships. It's like they must feel like they got the last life boat off the Titanic because it's so hard out there. It's just so hard out there. It's tough time. Okay. I can't figure out these comments. The comments aren't showing up or something. If I can get them. Oh, okay. Never mind. I got it. I got it. I got it. Strangers hook up at bars. They don't meet at bars no more. But you can go to a bar and hook up with somebody. But it's not like you're not meeting a potential significant other. Why can't it start? Well, sometimes it does, I guess. I don't believe you people. I think you're being defeatist. I think you just stick with it. You know, and I just think it's like every time you go or every 10 times you go, but whatever. But you just don't give up so easily. Go to the bar and meet people. Go to the wherever church. Go to your wherever you go to gather with other people. Go meet people. Come on, Jake. Go meet people. Your person will get it. Yeah, I'm working at it. I will say going off bars point though, through my best friends, one of them met through met his girlfriend through an app. They almost introduced to her by his cousin. And then the third one slid into her DMs on Instagram. Slid into the DMs. So the sliding in the DMs won. I actually do know somebody who met their wife sliding into the DMs. This is so sad. I don't want to do that. Just feels, I don't know, feels wrong. It is sad. You can say it's sad, but all through there are very good relationships. So it worked. Why is sliding into someone's DMs sad? It's sad that you have to meet online is what I think is sad. But specifically just I'm not on Twitter, obviously, but just explain that to me. I don't think it's sad. You I just thought you said it. It's sad that it's come to that. How do you slide? I thought you had to be don't you have to be someone's friend? Some people have open DMs. So open DMs like anybody can DM you. You can turn that off that only people who follow you can DM you. So what is the difference between sliding into someone's DMs and just getting their number and texting them? Because it can just be some like sliding into the DMs can be somebody random. It can be somebody you've never met. You've never interacted with. You get somebody's number. You've met them. You've gotten their number. If you slide into their DMs, you've actually met. You've probably met them as well. No, no, you can just find a random account. Oh, this person posted a picture. She looks hot. I'm going to shoot her a message kind of thing. Yeah. Oh. If it's somebody you know, that's different because that's just, oh, hey, you know, it's nice to meet you at this thing. That's that's fine. But it's it's people messaging like random people they've never interacted with. Bonnie get rosewater start off the same way. Say the chat by saying, why does Felger turn into such a loud infant when they bring in guests? If you don't like what he has to say, bring someone else in. Don't just talk over him. This was a bad show. Should have been a good show too. Since the Red Sox aren't floating. It's always funded justifiably criticized Henry, but it's distracting when being rude to one of your co-hosts and he's not rude ever. You don't take it personally, Barthi. Barthi, do you know if you have three or four people in a room who all agree with each other, that's terrible radio. What do you think this? Oh, me too. Great. Move on. Like I had a ton of fun and that's what it's discussion. That's what we do. It's discussion. It's debate. No, but we all at you. We pick pile on you. It's fun. I'm going to get follows up by saying it doesn't seem like good natured ribbing. It just seems like being a jerk. So I don't mean to be a jerk like you a lot, Barthi. Appreciate that. And this is my flaw. I don't have the ability to playfully ball bust. It just, I come on too strong. I just don't have it and it's on me obviously. Cause whenever I try and playfully ball bust, it's not taken as playful ball busting. It's taken as you're really digging and being a dick. And that's on me. And so that's why I do my best not to playfully ball bust. So with you, I don't even try. I might as well just yell at you. Cause if I, cause if, if, if my playful ball busting doesn't land properly, then don't even just, if you're going to be, if it was going to think you're a dick, then just go out and be a dick. Cause like, you know, you know what I mean? Yeah. But it is, I do have a, I, I'm not a playful ball buster. I try. I would like to, I would love to have the skill to playfully ball bust and it be okay. But I just, I don't have it. It's a fine line. It's tough to find. I don't take it personally. I definitely don't have it. Some people do. Sometimes people ask me like, why do you go on there and deal with that? I'm like, well, cause one, it's a big platform for me to talk about what I'm doing. I just, I enjoy it. It's challenging. Like a challenge. I mean, we could just say, what do you think, Alex, about this? Right. Well, what do you think about that, Alex? Oh, well, what do you think about this, Alex? It's much funner to, you know, I live in such the football, dork bubble that getting out of it and like on the contract stuff, because we don't talk about that. Cause we just want to talk about the depth chart and building the roster. Yes. We don't talk about dollars binded. So I go on. I'm forced to have a different perspective, a different view on it. It's about the dollars, my man. It is about the dollars. Okay. Here comes some Jake Seymour questions. Fish, the band fish are at the sphere. Would you go see them, Alex? I would not go see fish. I don't know that I've ever listened to a fish song. I would like to see somebody at the sphere. I hear the sphere is awesome. Fish doesn't do it for me. You should. What band would you want to see? Well, I know you two was there. That would be cool. Springsteen was there. I like springsteen. Really? Any, anybody that's like that big, that kind of bigger sound that stadium rock sound, cause it's the thing, right? The acoustics are like perfect. So I wouldn't go see like, I like no icon. I don't know that like the acoustic guitar that's, I want to see no icon outside. Right? Yep. So the who, I don't know how the who are now, but like in theory, a band like that, I'm not even a big cold play guy, but I feel like cold play at the sphere would be pretty cool. Somebody with that kind of sound. That just really fills the space. So my answer on fish is, uh, yeah, I would, uh, I don't, I wouldn't make a special trip to do it. If I were there or it were really convenient to me, would I do it? Yeah. You did a trip for it for the dead, right? I saw them eight times. Wow. At the sphere. So the, yes, I did it plenty for the dead. And it was great. So much fun. It was tremendous. And I'm not a big fish head, but it's the kind of music I like. I mean, and the, They're dead adjacent, right? Yeah. And it's a fun, you know, the, that day in Vegas is just as much fun as an adult can have. And I just love the, I love sitting in the pool all day in Vegas and then walk into a show and fucking getting after it. Like that's fun. You ever go to that? Uh, what is it? Stadium swim? No, where's that? I forget which casino has it, but there's, it's like massive screens all over the place. And it's all sports. It's supposed to be like the mecca for like March Madness and playoffs. And that sounds right. My buddy did radio in Houston for a few years and they used to, for any big event, like boxing matches, March Madness, they'd fly him out. I've always wanted to do it. He posted some awesome pictures. Barth, what do you do outside of work? What are your favorite activities? What do you do? I like to golf. I'm not very good at it, but I like to do it. Do you have a handicap? Yeah, it's like 30. I'm not good. Do you actually have a again card of G8? No. Okay. So you just say it's a third. We tracked it. I was in like, one of my buddies started a league last year. It was a bunch of us from high school and we go flat. Shoot over a hundred basically every time. Yeah. I get, I came close a couple of times last summer to breaking it, but I'm generally right around a hundred. But I just enjoy it outside. The big thing I put my phone away. Like I won't, some people have their phone on them because they used that like nine birdies app or whatever, which tracks you or they just want to like have it on. I put the music on and then it goes in my bag and I don't look at it for two, three, four hours, whatever it is. I'm just outside. I'm a competitive person. So it's like I'm competing against myself. I have friends that I know I'm not going to beat, but like I'm trying to be better. And I just, I enjoy it. If you're competitive and you're a 30 handicap, I have things that I'm better at competing. I think I'm trying to get better. Like I'm always just right. I've gotten better the last couple of years. Promise. I don't play in the winter. I need to go more in the winter to the range or the simulator. So like I get this progress. I'm doing better at the end of the year and then I don't play for four months and my game falls apart. You asked me that question. I have started to golf again and I golf a fair amount. How have you played outside yet? That was the next one. Have you gone golfing this season in mass? The answer is no. It's going to suck. Is it ever too early to go golfing? Fuck yeah. It's too early to go golfing. I mean, typically I like to be 55 degrees or greater. If it's 50 and it's sunny and there's no wind, fine. But I do have a line. Like I'm not golfing at this, you know, it was, I guess warm enough today, but the courses aren't in good enough shape yet. It's all, it's a mud track. So no, I don't like playing on temporary greens. That's the bigger truth. They spray paint the circle on there. So I'm not going to, I'm not going to play. If there's temporary greens, I'm not going to play. If there's a temporary T box, I guess you can get away with that, but temporary greens, even if there's just one, I'm out. I'm not going to play on temporary green. And if it's fucking cold, I'm not going to play. So, you know, define that. What's your definition of fucking cold? 45, 55, whatever that exists. So I'm not playing up here at this time of year. I will say the fault golf, you get out there like eight o'clock. It's brisk, like 45, 50. By the time you get a few holes in, it's up until like the 60s, 70s. Nice. Isn't it? I love fall. Fall is the best season of golf. The big problem there is leaves on the ground and you lose your ball. Good course. Make sure that the leaves are taken care of. Not necessarily in the rough. If there's a good big course, they can't blow all the leaves. They can't. Cheta writes in Felger, your Evan Bouchard take is a pink hat hockey fan take. Yeah. It's a pink hat, meaning pink hat, meaning a casual hockey fan or a guy that doesn't really know the NHL kind of take. Yes. Exactly. Which describes most of the odd. This is what bothers me about hockey, Krishna's and hockey fans, but Adam Jones would call hockey, Hardos. You all think that everyone either does or should know the NHL like you do. I'm here to tell you, pal, we're a niche sport. There's just a small percentage of us who like the game. Okay. And I like the game. I've always liked the game. I grew up playing the game. I love the game. I don't have the time. So that puts me in a rare percentage. Yeah. There's just a sliver of people who are like us who like the game. Now the percentage of those people who like the game, who have the fucking time or the interest to watch neutral site hockey and follow the NHL is tiny. So yes, it is a pink hat hockey take. That's most sports fans get it through your head. Our sport is not popular. God, why can't people get that? I have a question about the Western conference thing though. Is that a just cover the Bruins during the Eastern conference? That's what you're worried about? Or is it like a stylistic thing? It's Boston. And it's what I love about Boston. You also don't know who's on the California Angels. And God bless you for it. You barely still keep track of who's on the Yankees or the Blue Jays or the Orioles. What percentage of our audience could give you the top three starting pitchers of the Baltimore Orioles? Oh. Five percent of you could. Yeah, looking. Yeah. Like so. Yeah. Most the vast, vast majority of sports fans don't know who Evan Bouchard is. The vast majority of Boston hockey fans don't know who he is. So the percentage of people who know who that guy is is tiny. I'm not doing a show for that little tiny spec. And while the rest of you are going, who the fuck is Evan Bouchard? Sorry. But the hockey guy can't get it through their head that your sport is not popular in the broad sense. And why is it? And that's okay. Enough of us like it that we can talk about it on the radio and whatever. But God, it's like that thing like you all know who Evan Bouchard. No, you don't. You don't. You don't. No one has to know who Evan Bouchard is. You should know who Conor McDavid is. I know Daniel Nurse. Is he still, is he, is Bouchard even the number one defenseman in Edmonton? Maybe he is. Maybe he's not, but whatever. I'll fight that one to the, to the grave. And I'm sorry. I'm in a little bit of better position than you to actually make that judgment. As a talk show host, I'm knowing about what people want to talk about or not talk about or no or don't know. You get too far into the weeds. I mean, it's, there's all the love and respect in my heart. It's for guys like Barth and the podcast. And I, I took, you asked me that it was a setup today when I had a, do I ask you about all those prospects? Yeah. I told Jimmy beforehand, let's roll on all the names that he mentions. Oh no, that was great. And then at the end, let's do a montage of all the fucking names that he mentioned that. And because I did it as kind of a spoof. Right. The, that's for a podcast. The 14 right tackle prospects. That shouldn't be on the radio. Podcast with Evan Lazar earlier today. You should have heard how many names we went through like the whole running back class. It's not a very good running back class this year. That's for a podcast. It's not for a broadcast. What's, what's the thing about Bouchard is for your podcast. What's the thing about how like TV shows were hyper specific and movies were for everybody and then it kind of flipped. What was this? There's this like take about how like movies marketed everybody was like for the family and I forget which way it goes and like TV shows like hyper specific to interest and it's flipped in the last 20 years. But it's like that. Like the radio show is for the general audience. Yes, I like it to be the people who want Evan Bouchard, the people who want to hear about Keaton Mitchell are going to go to the show that's going to go that in depth because you're also you're hitting on four different sports, you know, plus any other big story that comes up. To me, what's even more important than that is being local. Boston. Just Boston teams. I think the vast, vast majority of people listen to us just want to talk about the in order, the Patriots, the Red Sox, the Celtics and the Bruins close. Our show, our station, Celtics, Bruins are close, but broadly speaking, it's more Celtics than Bruins. That's what they want to talk about. They want to talk about the Patriots, the Red Sox, the Celtics and the Bruins. They don't really want to talk about the NBA. They definitely don't want to talk about Major League Baseball. You couldn't go on there and do a segment on the, even the Dodgers are hard to do a segment on. You don't want to talk about Major League Baseball and you sure as fuck do not want to talk about the NHL. You definitely do not want to talk about the playoff picture in the Western Conference. A couple of you do, but that doesn't mean you do as a general you. So just stick to the Bruins. What is what my thing? So you didn't mention the NFL with the leagues. What makes the NFL different? They will talk about the NFL, but they won't talk about the NFL like you would want to. Like who's playing a good left tackle in the AFC West. Top five quarterbacks. They want a bitch about the Chiefs getting calls or Buffalo losing again. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Or Aaron Rodgers is a dick or, you know, that's the kind of NHL they want the NFL. They want to mock other teams or pick on a certain player or team, but they don't want to break down the, the race for the division lead in the AFC South. Broadly speaking, you don't want to do that. A couple of you do. Rest of you don't. So like just don't, don't bother with it. Patriots world according to Felger. Sorry. It's your podcast. You talk about whatever you want to talk about. Kick up your feet. This is the podcast. This is the Felger and Maz podcast. So it's the word world of Felger and Maz. Got a question on this and Jake put it in here as well. Thoughts on this lunar launch and the lunar thing. Do you follow it? Yeah, I think it's cool. I'm into that stuff. You know, I find that interesting. It'll be the next one will be cooler because so they're just going around the moon on this one. So it just went go for lunch. I did. So they're doing this. New York times are missed too is a go for lunch because it was supposed to be. I found out about the last one because Jake and Boston called my show Sunday morning for Patriots Texans and said, Patriots, we'll have a chance. League wants the Texans in the Super Bowl because they're supposed to be a lunar launch that day in Houston day, the Super Bowl lunar launch. I didn't end up panning out obviously, but I'm glad they're finally getting this done because I think they've delayed it like two or three times now. But yeah, they're just going around the moon. It's cool. We haven't been that far since, but they're sending people this time. Yeah. No, they're sending people. The first time people will be on the dark side of the moon. Right. So with it's the first time humans will see that side back. Yeah. We never went to the backside of the moon. I guess awesome. It's badass. I think it's great. The next one when they land on the moon is what really has me excited. I'm going to start reading about it a little bit more. I'm going to start reading up on it. I'll start taking it up as a as an interest. First round by Texan. When can we get an off air show featuring the wood? My wife's are underwood. Probably never. I'll give you a minute on this. I don't think she'd be good at it. You know, I know I say that it's not that she's not smart enough or whatever. She's a news anchor. She's a news person. And those people in their DNA, they're exceedingly careful. They're careful about what they say. They don't want to offend anybody because that's the job. That's the job of a news anchor is to be unoffensive, to be neutral, to be likable, to not say anything out of turn. That's what they want those local local news anchors to be. And I think that makes for bad. This, you know, so she wouldn't rag on me. She wouldn't tell you little details that would embarrass me and she's got a ton and she can do it. But she'd be reluctant to do it in front of the camera. She would be reluctant to make me look bad even though that would be fun. I'd be up for it, but we wouldn't spar. She wouldn't be good at sparring publicly, spar privately. She'll give me plenty, believe me, but in front of the camera, she just wouldn't. It's not in her DNA. It's not in her. She just doesn't want to do it. It's not how she's wired as a former news person. I wish, believe me, I think it'd be good. I think it'd be good to have her put me in my place and tell you embarrassing shit about me. That would work. People would want to hear that. We'd be a good morning show. I have the name for it too. You know what the morning show would be called? What? Morningwood. Nice. It's obvious. It's like a natural. And that's clever. I didn't come up with that. I can't remember who did it. It might have been Tang Wei. Someone came up with that. Not me. It would be good. I think it would be good if she had it in her to fuck with me. It would be good, but she doesn't have it in her. She doesn't want to do it. She wouldn't do it, which is too bad. People keep asking about our take on Jaden Ivy. This is the Bulls player who had some commentary about Pride Month and with the sort of religious overtones to it. Yeah. It being with, did he say unrighteous? Was that what he? I think he said a lot. It wasn't just the Pride Month stuff too. I know he went in on some other stuff. So I don't fully know what he said or how he said it. I just know vaguely of the story and I know vaguely that Trayvion Henderson, I only know this because I'd listened to the Vable Press Conference and he was asked about it. Otherwise, I would not have known. So I went back and looked at it that Trayvion Henderson, did he give it a thumbs up or a like or a quote? He tweeted it with the Bible verse, right? Right. And then he tweeted a couple other Bible verses. He didn't add any of his own commentary, but him responding in that way was viewed as commentary. The Bible verses made it clear that he was with it. In defense of, yeah, it was something like though, I don't know the Bible, but like basically something that was like those who were like attacked or, you know, on the right path or something. So, do you take? Um, well, I, the J. Naive situation is wild because you have a lot of people talking about, you know, the stuff he said about Pride Month when if you go, like he was doing Instagram live for like hours and hours, he's still doing it since he got cut. He's still going on live and there's these stories coming out. Do you know what NBA central is? Have you heard this? You wouldn't know this. Say it again. NBA central, not central central. No. So there's a Twitter account called NBA central, which just tweets a bunch of news aggregates it. Yep. Very reliable. There's another account called central, which is a parody account that tweets fake news, but it looks like central. Sometimes it'll get people, right? So there's a joke or running joke on NBA Twitter. It's like when something ridiculous. And central tweets it, it's like, I can't believe this isn't central. So there's been a bunch of stuff in J. Naive. Like there's one I saw, I guess he was, people thought it was so out there that people thought it was a parody. I guess he was asking reporters in the locker room. I think the exact quote was, did you fornicate prior to marriage and stuff like that? So just some of the quotes that are coming out of it are wild. So, uh, people should let him have his say is how I feel about it. Whether you agree with that or not, he should have his say the bulls releasing them. They're still paying them. I think the bulls are within their rights. If they don't want to be, if, if his views, and again, I don't know exactly what they are, but if the bulls view his, his views to be so odious that they don't want to be associated with them as a private business, that's their right then to release a player who they don't want representing them. That's okay. He's okay. The bulls are okay. In my mind, I can disagree with how he feels about the thing, but again, I don't exactly know, but he has a right to express it. And the bulls have the right to have those who they want representing them, representing them. What other take is there? I think he was also upset too, because the reason of the cause why the bulls released them officially, they said was a conduct detrimental to the team. So he was upset that him viewing his own point to your point was detrimental to the team, even though in, he was claiming that, you know, he was a teammate passing the ball, being at practice, playing in the games, being active. So then they could have called it something else. We just don't like you. We don't want you representing us. So they call it conduct. I mean, if he's getting a salary, there's, I don't know what recourse he was like fired for cause or anything like that. He's still getting his money and he was hurt too, right? We just don't want you in our uniform representing us because we think your views are hurtful to our brand. That's their right as a private business. And if you don't like his take, don't listen to it. Like, I don't know, but I'm not saying that to the bulls. The bulls have a business and a brand to protect, and they want to be represented a certain way. Now the question would be if he was really good, you know, is he, is he? No, he's not. But I actually saw this point on Twitter, people were debating about it is like, if this was say Anthony Edwards, Anthony Edwards would not have been cut for this. So someone posed the question, who is the worst player that could get away with this? Right. Right. So it's so named like, um, it's got to get away with this, you know, like sex man somewhere. So who, right? What's the line? Because right, it's always, how much you annoy us versus how good you are. You can be crazy, but if you're crazy, you'd better be able to play. You annoy the fuck out of us and you believe in some heinous shit, but you're really good. So we're going to, so it's a scale, right? Where is the guy? Who's the guy that pushes that scale the most? That's a good question. Any league too. I can think of some of the other extremes, like all the stuff that, that like John Morant has had with the guns and all that, and he's still there. He's a good player. Right. So that's a good one. Yeah. But who, like in terms of expressing their views, I can't think of an actual example. I'm just trying to think of the player that would be like right on that line. There's a lot of football players have gotten into domestics that they've stuck around. Yeah. Kyrie Irving. Well, that's, yeah. I mean, I'm just talking about purely espousing views that a team would deem bad for our brand, not the conduct, right? But Kyrie Irving. Yes. That's probably the best example. Is that? Someone just expressed here. First class dope. But I'm sure there's more. I'm getting text on here that says wrong about the dark side of the moon thing, the Apollo 13 slingshot. They went around the whole moon and came back. I guess that's true. I thought I just read briefly in just the 30 seconds I'd spent. Maybe it's the first planned one because that was the one where like it died, right? And they had that's how they got back. Yeah. Maybe this was in your story. I'm reading stuff from the New York time. Yeah. So here, this is what Jake from the New York times. If everything goes well, everyone in the crew will become the first humans to see large portions of the moon's far side. So that's where I got that from. Maybe they couldn't see it. Nepal 13. They had too much other stuff going on. I do. Do you think I came up with that on my own? I read it somewhere. So like, don't get angry. Well, four minutes to launch right now. The entire minute. So long just happened. Right now I'm watching it right now. I'm on the stream. That's badass. I think it's pretty cool. It is pretty cool. Space travel. I was really sad when I was a kid in the space shuttle program shut down. I know there was a lot of issues with that, but just the fact that we as a country got away from space shop for so long. I don't know. Like it was cool to go to space. Space shuttle was cool. I used to roll it out of that garage. I had the big, yeah. You know, and it's what's happening here is the right. It's mostly private, right? This is, is this Bezos or is this? No, this is NASA. I think they've helped, but this is like a NASA thing. Most of the space exploration we're doing now is privately funded, right? SpaceX. It's all this shit, which is what it should be. I mean, one of the reasons we stopped going to space is it's so fucking expensive and you should be helping humans on earth before you, you know, start shooting for the stars. Although I think it's worthy to get up there. Privately financed is the way to go. Yes. So there's four astronauts on this shuttle or shit, whatever you want to call it. Three of them are from NASA. One's from Canada. Okay. And Musk is, I believe, uh, funding it as he should. So I'm going to go watch the fucking moon launch. How about that? We're done. We gave it 25 minutes. I got this, there's stuff to watch and my daughter's calling. Hold on one second. We're done. Thanks for tuning in everybody. We're back at it next Wednesday. I assume, hopefully, uh, not that I don't enjoy the bartender, which we do, but Jim, big Jim Murray, I think we'll be back as well. Jake, thanks again for tuning in and we'll catch you next week.