The Toast

You're Seeing Trouble: Friday, February 6th, 2026

75 min
Feb 6, 20264 months ago
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Summary

The Toast hosts discuss celebrity news including Molly Mae and Tommy Fury's pregnancy reconciliation, Utah Leardom's private jet controversy at the Olympics, and ski jumpers allegedly injecting hyaluronic acid into their genitals to gain competitive advantage. They also recap Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and Traitors episodes, analyzing relationship dynamics and game strategy.

Insights
  • Relationship reconciliation narratives resonate with audiences when framed around personal growth and second chances, even among high-profile couples
  • Gender double standards persist in sports and celebrity culture—male athletes' individual choices are normalized while female athletes face 'diva' criticism for identical behavior
  • Reality TV success depends on casting aspirational wealth levels and authentic conflict; low-budget or parody-like casting undermines franchise credibility
  • Strategic gameplay in competition shows rewards sociopathic behavior and manipulation, creating viewer fatigue when morally questionable players dominate
  • Consistency in personal branding (hair color, presentation) is valued by podcast hosts as a marker of reliability and professional integrity
Trends
Celebrity reconciliation narratives gaining traction as audiences embrace 'second chance' storylines over permanent breakupsGender-based criticism of female athletes' personal choices (travel, appearance) while male counterparts receive minimal scrutinyReality TV franchise expansion into smaller markets struggling to compete with established franchises due to casting and production qualityPerformance-enhancing body modifications in niche sports (hyaluronic acid injections in ski jumping) revealing loopholes in Olympic oversightPodcast hosts emphasizing personal consistency and reliability as core brand values in competitive media landscapeReal Housewives franchise fatigue with pile-on dynamics; audiences preferring nuanced conflict resolution over group attacksWag culture reclamation—reframing WAG terminology from derogatory to aspirational career descriptorPeacock streaming platform's selective greenlighting of reality content creating perception of inconsistent decision-makingInfluencer pregnancy announcements strategically timed to control narrative before paparazzi or social media speculationOlympic travel logistics and team cohesion debates reflecting broader athlete autonomy vs. institutional loyalty tensions
Topics
Celebrity Relationship Reconciliation and Second ChancesGender Double Standards in Sports and Celebrity CultureReality TV Franchise Casting and Aspirational Wealth LevelsOlympic Performance-Enhancing Body ModificationsReal Housewives Conflict Dynamics and Friendship LoyaltyPodcast Personal Branding and ConsistencyWAG Culture Terminology and RebrandingStreaming Platform Content Decision-MakingInfluencer Pregnancy Announcements and Narrative ControlAthlete Autonomy vs. Team Cohesion in Olympic TravelSpeed Skating Individual vs. Team Sport DynamicsReality TV Editing and Narrative ConstructionCelebrity Fitness Tracking and Wellness CultureMusic Video Casting and Celebrity CollaborationsMahjong Rules and Game Integrity
Companies
Bravo
Network greenlit Real Housewives of Rhode Island but passed on The Golden Life, sparking criticism over franchise sel...
Sports Illustrated
Published February 2026 digital swimsuit issue featuring NFL WAGs and athletes, reframing WAG terminology in editoria...
Delta Airlines
Official charter airline partner for Team USA Olympic travel, providing customized flights with business class seatin...
Peacock
Streaming platform home to Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and Traitors episodes; hosts discussed exclusive content ...
NPR
Mentioned in context of hosts receiving packages and merchandise during podcast recording
People
Molly Mae Hague
Love Island star expecting second child with Tommy Fury after reconciliation; discussed pregnancy announcement and re...
Tommy Fury
Love Island personality reconciled with Molly Mae after 6-month split; hosts praised his personal growth and sobriety...
Utah Leardom
Dutch speed skater and Jake Paul's fiancée facing criticism for flying private to Olympics instead of with Dutch team
Jake Paul
YouTuber and fiancé of Olympic speed skater Utah Leardom; hosts discussed his relationship and potential Olympic atte...
Taylor Swift
Released music video for 'Opalite' featuring star-studded cast after Graham Norton Show appearance inspired concept
Dorit Kemsley
Real Housewives of Beverly Hills cast member dealing with divorce; hosts praised her openness and criticized Kyle's p...
Kyle Richards
RHOBH cast member criticized for publicly siding with Amanda against Dorit despite long friendship history
Rachel Zoe
RHOBH cast member who defended Dorit at dinner; hosts expressed admiration for her involvement and emotional authenti...
Garcelle Beauvais
RHOBH cast member providing moral voice and friendship support to Dorit during conflict with Kyle
Brittany Mahomes
NFL WAG featured on Sports Illustrated Swimsuit cover; discussed WAG terminology and role as NFL player's wife
Normani
Performer and fiancée of DK Metcalf featured on Sports Illustrated Swimsuit cover; discussed WAG culture redefinition
Rob Marsi
Traitors contestant playing dominant strategic game; hosts criticized his manipulation while respecting his gameplay
Candace Cody-Consuelos
Traitors contestant eliminated after strong gameplay; hosts praised her composure and strategic thinking despite loss
Steven Colletti
Traitors contestant positioned as potential hero who could expose Rob; hosts identified him as show's last hope
Katherine O'Hara
Actress and Schitt's Creek star who passed away; hosts awarded her Queenie of the Week posthumously
Quotes
"You're not seeing double, you're seeing trouble"
Host (Jackie/Megan)Opening segment
"Nothing's perfect, nobody's perfect, everybody has their trials, even like you know idyllic relationships like they're literally royalty in the UK"
Host discussing Molly Mae and Tommy FuryMolly Mae segment
"If a male athlete forsook his team plane I would be like that's so lame, like whatever. Utah obviously needs to fly private, she's a celebrity"
Host discussing Utah LeardomOlympics segment
"You can't win. If Dorit was putting on a brave face, they would say you're not being real. But she's being honest and they pile on her"
Host analyzing RHOBH dynamicsReal Housewives segment
"Rob's great at the game but like at what cost? I don't like what he did but I respect that he's playing well"
Host discussing Traitors strategyTraitors recap
Full Transcript
I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Friday. Hope everybody's having an amazing final day of the week. congratulations we made it to the end of the week i'm so um honored and scared to be joined by my co-host today jennifer jennifer yeah it's like that megan fox movie jennifer's body where minka kelly or whoever the other one is that your intro that you were working on what were you working on you're not seeing double you're seeing trouble let's take that later yeah i came in in an outfit that like i worked hard to procure it's a matching set and jackie was like oh i just got that set And she happened to have just picked up her mail and she has it here because we got an NPR. So she's like, what if I just put it on? I thought, first of all, it's sitting here. There's one package here. It's the same outfit that Koji has. And like, we're so cute and adorable. We've been so simpatico. It's such like Friday vibes. It's giving like middle school when it was like pajama day. And we're like those girls who synced up. Yeah, I feel like we're bananas in pajamas. It's also giving Merriam-Webster to find stalker for me. But you went with Jennifer. Yeah, I had three seconds to come up with something like, sorry, I'm just doing my best. You're not seeing double. You're seeing trouble. Those two moronic twins who made quite literally no impact. Can you say it and go cross-eyed? Let me get my solo camera ready. You're not seeing double. You're seeing trouble. Going cross-eyed is my party trick. It makes every joke so much funnier. And I'd like to thank the Lord for giving me that ability. I've been doing it since I'm a kid. And I used to do it for the sisters as a kid to freak everyone out. And now I do it to get a chuckle. it's really like one of my talents it's a beautiful thing to be and when i do it on the toast or like colloquially i don't go full because i'm like afraid to go full yeah yeah you know i was always told as a kid i get to get stuck that way so if you want to i can show you because people are like you don't really look that cross-eyed well you haven't seen me yet ready what'd you just do do you that was like my joke cross-eyed this is my joke i can't see you oh sorry but this is my full-fledged 100 cross-eyed ready i'm scared i get scared to do it okay I'm not don't do it I can see you in the reflection yeah go back you're not saying double you're saying so yeah we're wearing matching outfits and for that alone I'm so glad that we are yeah we're just adorable wait you know what's so funny what's so funny i can't hear anything i don't know why i'm wearing headphones hello hello hello hello hello i thought you just wear them for the look like well some days i didn't have like a ton of time to run the dyson through my hair this morning and i am on day like six hair so i didn't do like when you have a hundred thousand dollar hair i don't wear the headphones so just know if i am wearing the headphones it's because i feel insecure sometimes also i feel like a big pair of headphones just makes my face look really small yeah like it's called contrast you know but it doesn't really matter like what's coming through the headphones is all i'm saying like it's not about but i do like to hear like both of our voices in my ears i feel like it fuels me to be the best podcaster i can be okay i feel like you are a fantastic podcaster i definitely agree with that um also i'm also a pulsey podcaster because we're so on the pulse real hot spots beverly hills traders episodes both dropped last night jack and i stayed up late watching them both so we can recap them both for you today so that will be today's episode don't Don't do not worry. Yeah. At the end of the show, we'll recap. I'm excited. But we also have a lot of really good stories today. Thank God. Like random for a Friday. Good. That the stories are a sleigh. Sometimes like, you know, Fridays is the perfect time for like random tech news or like. Oh, yeah. Like we almost had some food news yesterday about how like McDonald's is giving out caviar in the kids meals or something. Oh, that's weird. I didn't read it in full. But no, none of that today. None of that nonsense. Okay. just pure pop culture oh yeah all the time um oh yeah we played mahjong yesterday after the toast i won three times some days you have it some days you don't yeah yeah and i i happen to have had it that's always a good feeling that is a good feeling i'm excited for the new card to come out yeah everyone in the i have like my favorite like runs i just feel like the people who have been playing all year like they like the way that i have like three or four runs like booked and i can see them in every hand like they have that for so many hands i feel like it will set the playing field so it's my understanding that the cards aren't that different like that's what i thought i thought just 2025 becomes 2026 it might make a couple of adjustments but for the most part like i couldn't really tell which year the card is from like it's pretty similar that's what i thought but then someone said no it's not well maybe the person you were talking to was like they had the card like someone forgot i forgot my card and they only had 2024 and it was like no no know it's so different really yeah yeah let me just look i just hope my personal favorites like make what is your first personal favorite mahjong sequence oh i don't want to say i feel like that's like puts everyone on to me i know you love like a two four six eight oh i don't that's not what i was gonna say you do okay i'm looking at the 2024 card um it's a lot of the same stuff some new Let me see if my favorite one's in there and then and then I'll know. I want to know what your favorite is like. I feel like I can't tell you because then you'll always know I'm playing it. It's just hard enough to like consider your own tiles before everyone else's, you know. That's always what you do. Oh, no, my favorite's not there. OK, so now I'll be able to deduce based on what's there and what's not. And that person is going to jail because you're not allowed to take a picture of the card. Yeah, you're not. So don't even bother photocopying it. Oh, no, jail. The rules for Mahjong are so strict. I actually appreciate that they've like kept the sanctity of the game. Yeah. And that's how it's been passed down from generation to generation. Yeah. Of the young. I keep singing this morning. And my mama told me it's all right. You were dancing through the lightning strike. Because I'm sure we have a story about Taylor Swift's new music video. We don't. Oh, okay. Let's talk about it really quickly. Right. It was a star studded ensemble because it was actually really cute. I guess she wasn't even supposed to do a music video for Opalite. But when she went on the Graham Norton show, which is like this turn show in the UK where they have like six celebrities being interviewed at the same exact time. And she was with this like group of actors, musicians, things of that nature. Someone, Dom Hall Gleason. What is he from? I was going to say Ron Weasley, but that's not Ron Weasley. Whatever. He made a joke about being in a Taylor Swift music video and she said it gave her this idea. So she cast everyone from that Jodie Turner-Smith, Killian Murphy. he was in it like very little like i got the vibe that like he was just doing it so he wasn't the only one not there but his participation was a photo of himself and voiceover so he like didn't leave his house um but it was super cute i loved it and i love the concept of like including all these people i'm not gonna lie if she didn't put at the very end um she put a clip from the gram norton interview where domo gleason says that he wants to um be in a taylor swift music video a louis capaldi's in it your boyfriend um i might not have i will i might not have noticed i might have recognized domino gleason i'm like oh that's cute you cast this one random guy because i can pronounce it and i'm better than everyone what is it how is that spelled d-o-m i feel like there might be an n after that yeah h-a-l-l oh man i'm literally so smart domino gleason but i think it's domino i don't know him yes you do what's he from is he from ex machina ex machina yeah okay can we talk about time of course um let's also talk about ex machina did you ever see it no it was like a movie that i don't know the lasting impact on culture or cinematography but the lasting impact on me was insane like i just kind of accidentally saw this movie and the way i never forgot it alicia vikander she's sort of like dropped off yeah um she like is a robot and then dom hall's like obsessed with her and they're like locked in this house together or you know they're just like living in a house together um and dom all falls for the robot and then the robot ends up locking dom hall in the house for eternity like he's still in there right now he probably died but um spooky movie i'm just quite sad like i want to say like maybe like a precursor to the dangers of ai oh for sure sure though anyone could always that's like so low low hitting so like the robots are gonna kill us yeah and it's like no if only we should be so lucky that that's our fate yeah we'll end up killing each other it's true well he was great in the music video and it was super cute um it was like very 80s opalite is like a product like windex and it like solves all your problems like it like it makes the only people not only she becomes friends with damal um it was really cute you just want to say damal and i'll pick more stories about him in the future the morning domal okay she also um has brown hair the entire time it's like meant to be like an ugly wig but i actually thought she looked amazing oh cute yeah i like when she changes up her hair in music videos of course babe comes to mind when she was a sexy red-headed secretary oh la la and all too well of course like a very sophisticated author yeah yeah must be fun yeah if you could have any other color hair what would it be i don't know brown oh really not like you not brown that oh you hate my hair okay no no i feel like like an like a darker version of my hair like an auburn brown i would go for like a blonde okay but i would just have to be tan all the time okay do it should i no if it didn't you know i really care about the integrity of my strands we can't just be like people who change their hair Like we are beacons of consistency and reliability. And if we're showing up here all the time with like different colored hair, like that's just for the community, not who we are. Not only that, I think that people value different values. You know, I couldn't have said it better myself. Yeah. And I think for us, like something that's really important, I think that's like integral to our success is just consistency. and not to say that people who change their hair a lot like are inconsistent but you do have to have this sort of i would say joie de vivre i would say people who change their hair a lot are inconsistent with their hair color that's beautiful i think that's fair i think that's fair to say that's absolutely sick i agree like like so much of jacks and claude it's literally like changing your name at this it's jackson claude we're brown and red like so true it's so true we couldn't like the the future of this show sort of depends on the consistency of our hair It'd be like you got a dog that wasn't a King Charles. Well, that would actually just be funny. Speaking of dogs, Romeo was up. I felt like I had a newborn up every three hours having diarrhea. Thankfully, that was not my problem. Ben had to go take him outside. It's like freezing here at night. I was already sort of on the fence about Romeo, but him messing with my sleep. Oh, no. Yeah, no, my eight-month-old slept through the night. My two-year-old dog did not. And that affected your sleep score. Yes, this is my first. My Oura Ring is back. Is that why your sleep score was like not partial? 79. 179. I imagine it had a lot to do with. Romeo. Yeah. Romeo, wherefore out thou? Yeah. I'm not loving the aura ring. I think like it's nice to have an aura ring when it's a means of a bragging. Last time I got an aura ring, I was at my peak physical health. It's hard when you're in a bad spot. No, I'm not in a bad spot. I'm just not in an active spot. And I refuse to like consider that bad. Well, I feel like you're more active than you think that you are. Well, yeah, I would have thought so, too. I thought that once I had my aura ring, like I'm up all day. Like I'm taking here. We're going to music class. Like it's not, you know, the gym, but I'm doing stuff all day. And before I became a mom, my activity score like was never below a 90. That's because it's easy to get an aura ring when you're in the most active phase of your life. It's not even helping you at that point. It's just bragging. Yeah. So and what are your goals for getting an aura ring now? That's a really good question. I did really like when I got the aura ring the last time around, I got it to track my body temperature for when I wanted to get pregnant. Of course, I'm not there yet. But I did wish that I had had like years of data or a new clogged cell. Exactly. So like it took me like two, three months because I needed to get my own data. Yeah. So I'm hoping to have like years worth of data when I'm ready to go. Okay. So that's what I'm doing. Although I hate sleeping with a ring. I forgot about that feeling. Yeah. And then the green light and I kind of nightlight in my room. It was weird. well that's exciting that you're on your aura journey i'm not though you know but you will be the aura just takes over you think it's going to encourage me to be more yeah like you'll want to hit your activity so like okay let's go for a little walk like it doesn't have to be insane you don't have to train for a 5k but like just little bits and bobs yeah i guess let's get into the stories we have a lot to do today and we don't have any time to waste so without further do that do that do it is time for the fast five stories that you that do need to know and the fast five stories that you that do need to know are brought to you by graza everybody knows this is a homemaking show where a couple of balabustas and what's really taken our balabusting to the next level is graza so it's our olive oil of choice it's delicious it's easy to use it's extra virgin olive oil at an affordable everyday price so you've probably seen the iconic green bottle all over social media people love it as a finishing oil as a cooking oil um it's always fresh. 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Molly Mae and Tommy Fury are expecting baby number two after their reconciliation. so Molly May Hogg and Tommy Fury who fans love from Love Island are now expecting their second child which is major news because even if you don't follow the couple you've probably been following the toast and in August of 2024 the two who were engaged actually split up yeah they were broken up for like six months before they started to like ish get back together now they've been it was also like sort of insinuated at that time that there was something really nefarious going on Like that awful dreadful looking woman said that she you know hooked up with Tommy in Dubai But it it since been I think realized by people that all of that was a lie They never spoke on it but it was clear that Tommy was going through like you know just kind of fighting some personal demons yeah and for Bambi and Molly Molly self you know she decided to step away from the relationship at the time but it seems like he's done a lot of work on himself yes there wasn't they maintained that there was never any cheating that it was more so just like alcohol issues right like him just being like a completely different person when he drank one that they didn't and couldn't be around um but they've been taken back together for probably on it like total like a year now and they're expecting their second child she posted a video of the two of them and bambi bambalish saying she's going to be a big sister oh she talks like peppa pig i'm going to be a big sister and actually big news with peppa pig was that her brother recently shared he's been diagnosed as partially deaf yeah he uh her brother george is moderately deaf he shared his truth um so that was big for the peppa stand no that's really beautiful i feel like as a deaf child like that must be awesome i just feel like everyone's moderately deaf or nobody's listening to me i just want to say i never heard of moderately deaf before yeah but listen it's important for that's george's truth and i'm not stepping on george's toes i didn't mean to no um really quickly so i don't follow molly as closely as you do um but i feel bad for her because and I'm not even on like Molly talk but she had posted she has been consistently vlogging while hiding the pregnancy and a lifestyle influencer and a designer and she was filming herself and there was an oven behind her and like in the reflection of the oven people saw a bump and I don't know that was like two days ago and then she shared the so maybe that was like an well I just want to say as a Molly stan that didn't make its way to me yet so I feel like they were probably going to announce soon but maybe she wanted to get in front of it before like everybody knew and then she announced so i was still totally surprised now of course i've wondered will bambi have a sibling and on her documentary she talks about how she really wants to give bambi a sibling how she's very close with her sister and like that's very important to her but you know the last two years have things have been up in the air because her and tommy weren't even together so this is just a beautiful next chapter for this beautiful family and you know what it goes to show nothing's perfect nobody's perfect everybody has their trials even like you know idyllic relationships like they're literally royalty in the uk um even they so maybe you should text him back maybe you should text him back yeah or forgiveness you know it's a beautiful thing it is and and i forgive you i didn't say sorry i know but i know you are because i know you and one of my you know being too good of a sister setting the bar too high you know other bitches yeah for what you know why you forgive me for i forgive you for what for throwing that ass in a circle like that like that wasn't cool um but i know you know that now i am who i am i know you know that now and you didn't do it to hurt me just hurt you correct anyways so thrilled for the furies now i don't want to like put pressure but let's get back to that engagement at some point yeah even though like being in a long-term like committed engagement is a very chic thing to do Although I do believe that they will get married. It seems as though she's wearing her ring in this video. She had like stopped wearing her ring. It's not like they got back together and engaged. As Beyonce. It's also weird. Like, does he have to propose again? That's a great question. When you break up temporarily as an engaged couple, where does that leave the pending engagement? Yeah, I think he should have to propose again. Yeah, why not? It's always fun to get a piece of jewelry. Yeah. Yeah, the other, this one's tainted. I mean, yeah, agreed. now when i wasn't like a conscious you know mother when she announced her last pregnancy and then the name of her baby and bambi's definitely like unique and different um so i'm really curious did she say what it is i don't know i feel like it's a girl the video was black and white yeah maybe she didn't say i wasn't a conscious molly may fan i didn't even know who she was when she had bambi so i didn't get to enjoy her journey through motherhood so this will just be so much fun yeah and i guess she'll probably be due like summerish or whatever we're not really on the same time like she'd be a fun one to be pregnant with yeah zach get over molly may's pregnant you know what that means like to me that would be like the same as when i was pregnant with kylie which yeah i feel like i was so cool pregnant with a hailey bieber which was obviously really special for her um who else was i pregnant with i was pregnant with a lot of girlies. I was, of course, pregnant with Lauren Alaina. Like, we literally had, like, had sex the same day. And I went, like, a week early, and she went, like, two weeks late. So, like, our babies are, like, actually quite far apart. But I do believe conception was on the same day. That's beautiful. Yeah. Mazel to the Furies. Really? Mazel. Like, it's nice to work through things and come out on the other side. They must feel very, very happy yeah our next story some olympics news tonight's the opening ceremony i forgot we have a bit of olympics drama that i need what time is the ceremony because it's obviously french canadian time but then they'll stream it like for prime time okay okay yeah okay they always do that you might see like snippets beforehand okay but it'll probably be at like eight o'clock on peacock or whatever thank god my peacock subscription is currently active because of traders oh thank god Yeah, or else I would have had to miss it. Our first Olympic story, Utah Leardom is getting flack for flying private to the Olympics. Oh, who gives a fuck? I forgot. I'm like, who's Utah Learman? And why do we care? Of course, it's literally the love of my life. Jake Paul's fiance. Jake Paul's fiance, Utah Learman, is a Dutch speed skating star. She's going to the Olympics again. Is this like her big... This is what she's been waiting for? Because it's like her and Jake can't really live in the same place until X. Yeah, I think she was at the last Olympics and this will be her last Olympics. Oh my God, is Jake there? Did she fly with Jake? 1000% Jake will be there. I don't even know that, but of course he will be there. I don't think she flew with Jake. Give us Paul American season two now. Do you think that that show wasn't renewed? No, I think it's, it could be. I think it could be. I think they're definitely filming it and then they'll see, we'll pick it up. Maybe you too. But that's what's great about the Pauls, they're filming everything all the time. Yeah, like the way I need to see, first of all, like the way you feel about Bambi and Tommy Fury is how I feel about Jutta and Jake Paul. I never even thought Jake Paul was cute until I saw him like being such a loving and supportive. And you know what? Our faves are actually connected because you know that Tommy and Jake. Of course, of course. And actually, I learned about Tommy through Jake. Yes, you did. When I watched Jake Paul Untold. I need to watch that. Oh my God, Claudia will love it. And then he was fighting Tommy. and then I had seen so much stuff about Tommy and I just had Charlie and I was like you know what I'll watch their season no I love Utah I follow her on every social media platform and she's been crushing it she had an injury though at like the the worlds yeah and she almost didn't qualify but then she got a spot yeah she had like a freak accident at worlds that put her out of like contention but she's okay but because she's such a star there were like you've made the team yeah and like and I think they saw Paul American and they saw the sacrifices like she's actively been making because she could just like you know be a kept woman yeah right in puan rico laurels but no she is in amsterdam turning it out okay so she flew private from amsterdam to milan yes instead of making the trip alongside her fellow compatriots people are calling her a diva arrogant um it's just so funny because like if a male athlete like forsook his team plane i would be like that's so lame like whatever um utah obviously needs to fly private she's a celebrity she can't be sitting and coach with the rest of these slobs um i actually like do agree that she should have flown with her team like even like the biggest and bad like tom and giselle like when they went to the super bowl you just you do fly with your team yeah or like when lebron went to the olympics he flew with his team but does the whole team fly private well team usa you know we take care of each other like it's a big ass plane i think it's like i think i've seen videos it's like a sick they trick out like a huge 737 i also feel like different athletes get like i feel like the basketball team they get a plane i feel like some of the lesser outfits they get a seat on Delta and you know they say we move you before you move us how does Team USA travel for the Olympics I feel like every sport travels differently like sort of based on what they're used to okay thank you to this avid aviator this is how Team USA flew to the Paris Olympics they have a video oh you didn't ask chat no I didn't oh wow is it something happened either in the airport like just show us the plane oh Delta's the partner you're right yeah they charter like a delta flight for sure but who gets first class and who well i just feel like it's based on what they're accustomed to so team usa travels to the olympic games primarily via customized delta airlines charter flights which serve as the official airline for athletes staff and equipment often red carpet send-offs involve specially branded team-only aircrafts ensuring comfortable tailored travel including business class seating for the athletes okay beautiful oh so maybe like coaching staff gets coach maybe but i just i feel that's what we do here in the u.s like i don't know what goes down i'm sure everybody does something similar the teams the netherlands do normally travel together the dutch is the netherlands right yes this is do you find me confusing as well that was between dutch and denmark no that netherlands like dutch is to netherlands as the danish art of denmark yeah which like you should be in nevandish a neanderthal you obviously one thousand dutch i feel like every time every four year or every two years it's like when our like global like not like education like is really put on blast um agreed how we got to be dutch people from neanderlandin is insane to me but yes like amsterdam is and you're loving saying amsterdam that feels safe to you yeah right right amsterdam is in the netherlands and people who live in amsterdam are dutch um yolanda hadid is a dutchman is a dutchman yeah okay and she's from the netherlands yeah yeah same with utah yes and like i will be fully tuned into speed skating the thing is speed skating is mostly like a single person sport right they do have like realize it's like running yeah but it's like everybody is running their own race literally until you're a part of like a four person if she were but even still like you're responsible for only yourself really so i feel like you don't get the medal if your team loses but you slayed your quarter of real life but it's like they're gonna lose if they're gonna lose they're gonna lose yeah and you need to protect you to self and be comfortable and this is her olympics and like she needs to win the gold so she can feel settled in her life and move to puerto rico with jake if she does not win gold like claudia she might try for the next Olympics and we'll have four more years of long distance. Okay. The Grand Hague saw four more years of long distance. We need you to win. So she needs to be comfortable. Yeah. She needs to have extra leg room for sure. But she also needs the support of her fellow teammates. But not really if it's a single person sport, you know, it's not like basketball. Nobody wants to go to the locker room and have everybody, especially with the girls. Girls can be so bitchy. But you know, she runs that town. She runs that locker room like a ship, like a thousand percent. I wonder if she brought any friends with her on the plane. It's very, very Stephanie from Real Houses in Miami. It's very Megan Fox from Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen with her Sid Arthur tickets. Also, us going to the Rascal Flatts tour is us seeing Sid Arthur. One thousand percent. Like the farewell tour for the band like that they've loved their whole lives. I was thinking that the other day that we're like so Sid Arthur. We're so Lola. Yeah. And what's the girl? The blonde friend. Is her name Ellen or is that? Oh, yeah. Like it's Ellie. Ellie. Ellen. Ellen. or is that her actress name like no you're definitely onto something you're so ellen i'm so lola step i'm so lola you would never wear that necklace actually your bottle cap necklace is like lola step yeah with your teddy bears um you're megan box fine yeah i'm like the rich cool girl ah no um so yeah you know what you're not gonna catch us clowning on you she She did what she had to do for herself to win gold. Eugene needs to win gold. Whatever it takes to get there. Yeah. I support. And by the way, I won't say this for everyone. If LeBron doesn't fly with his team. Yeah. But also he needs his teammates to pass to him is what I'm saying. Like when it's a team sport. Like that. Those dynamics matter more. Of course. But also like I think it's just gendered as well. Like yes, Diva. Take your plane. Mm-hmm. The man. Like it's yucky. Yeah. Like it's for girls. Flying private is for girls. Yeah. Also, I see that Team USA really does the most for their athletes. I don't know how the Netherlands sends their athletes and if it was up to her family. Honestly, I could see them sending them on a bicycle. That's so Dutch. 1,000%. And she's used to the high life with Jake. Like, I'm sorry. This bicycle's not going to cut it. Yeah, no, she's not going to slum it. They probably took the train or something. Okay, so it's from Amsterdam to Milan. Yeah, you could probably take the train. I think it's all land. They love taking trains in your house. love yeah so no thanks you think yeah um also some other olympics drama olympic officials are investigating a claim that ski jumpers are injecting acid into their penises yes i heard about this acid makes it seem like even crazier than it is it's hyaluronic acid um and apparently it will enhance their performance so it turns out that size matters in ski jumping before each season starts competitors go through a 3d scanner wearing only tight body tight underwear their crotch height is also measured in their body suits, which can only have two to four centimeters of excess material are designed based on these figures. The hyaluronic acid can increase penis circumference by up to two centimeters, which would then give them bigger body suits, which adds to their weight, their ability to jump like the measure the meters of the jump. I don't fucking know. Well, I just feel like if you're actually injecting a foreign substance into your penis like you obviously want it more than everyone else and i admire your commitment to the craft and i'm really not bothered by it like if i don't believe that the margin of like difference between a gold medal and a silver medal is penis size yeah you you have to be that much greater you're saying yeah like you didn't win because you have a better but like cheating is cheating and sorry wrong is wrong i take it back um just like who was looking that closely that Like, who's the freak who figured this out? Yeah. Or they just like heard whispers of people doing like it's a known secret in the game. Is that considered juicing? And it's like hyaluronic acid. I don't know. I put that in my face every night. I don't know. But you guys don't do it. You know what? Because of the Zet bound, I do have a couple of spare needles and I put hyaluronic acid on my face every day. So maybe I'll experiment this at home with Ben. So that to what end? Is he going to the Olympics? Just to see if there's a big difference. It sounds really painful. I agree. You obviously want it more than anyone else. Yeah. But you've lost sight, I think, of what's important. And what's the sport? Is that when you go down really fast and then up and you, like, land a trick? Yeah. Ski jumping. Oh, and that's the Jessica Chastain movie, right? Yeah. Molly's Game. I watched that, like, a couple weeks ago. She was like on track to be like a professional ski jumper. And then she had an injury. So she became like she was at the Olympics. Right. And then she became a pimp. She had a freak accident. Maybe she had too much hyaluronic acid in her regime. No, it was the the pine. Oh, yeah. There was a twig in her. The twig in her mitts. And she went over a twig as you know, there's just that's normal. And the what the angle that it went unclipped her ski. Do you know how bolted those skis are into those boots are into your skis? now is that a true story yes oh wow yes molly's game's a really good movie molly's i i feel like everyone has seen it but if you haven't you have to see it it's amazing yeah it's really good yeah molly's game um so good luck with that sorry that happened no i mean personal accountability they did that i wonder if they'll be disqualified i feel like yeah they should be like i feel like if the Olympics doesn't have like insane integrity when it comes to like rules and stuff. Who will? Yeah, they sort of set the standard. I agree. Our next story, Brittany Mahomes, Normani and more NFL wags are making a splash for Sports Illustrated Swimsuit. Yes, I love this concept. I saw at first I was confused. I didn't realize that Normani was a wag. Yeah, DK Metcalf is her fiance. And then also we haven't even talked about how I'm pretty sure Normani is on my season of the Masked Singer. really who is she um hold on let me look it up i haven't heard that i have only heard anthony ramos it's not anthony ramos and i just did like a little personal um like investigating and i don't believe that chase stokes cordover street is pug casso based on just like the clues i know based on some i also did some like personal recon okay yeah i don't think he is either so who the hell is it philip phillips people said that's not his voice i did listen to phillips phillips on the way home last night it was a man's strongly suspect former fifth harmony member normani's competing as the crane show me the crane what has she sung that would be really crazy it's kind of like whoever cast this season of the mass singer is putting like all of my ops yeah first allegedly Matthew Morrison. But not. Maybe. It could be. Normani. Teddy Mellencamp's not an op of mine. Neither is David Ortiz. But the Chrisleys kind of are. I need more clues about Normani. Okay. So. I don't think it's her. Based on voice. Do you want to listen? I want to hear what song she's saying. It's not right, but it's okay okay by whitney houston is what she performed okay clues references to the 90s oh so why would that be normani billions of streams working 10 times harder and pink ballet slippers wait why do people think this is normani this person said she brushed wings with janet michelle and even angelina as a fan Paula Abdul The panel and fans have suggested Maya Normani Ashanti or Misty Copeland Oh, ballet slippers, yeah. Okay, so not Normani. No. What a fun game. I know. Well, Normani is, she might not be on Mass Singer, but she is on the cover of Sports Illustrated. So the February 2026 digital issue of Sports Illustrated Swimsuit. Oh, I forgot how we got here. features a bunch of wags on cover. So we have Brittany in the Homes, Normani, Claire Kittle, Ronica Love, Kristen Goff, and Haley Cavender. I love this concept. And Ronica Love is pregnant. And you know I just want to see a pregnant woman on the cover of Sports Illustrated. I just feel like that's unfair. I didn't even know she was pregnant. I love this. I feel like at one point we did girl boss away from the wag terminology. terminology i think like some people were like it's offensive to minimize them to their husband's jobs but like i'm just i really hope we've sort of reverted back i love wag culture i don't think it's demeaning i think that it's a full-time career being like a supportive ass wife um and mother and like holding down the fort while your husband just sort of like throws a ball around um so i'm so back on wag i hope we all are yes me as well this is really cute and your money They look sick. Everyone looks sick. Yeah, this is a great concept. Yeah. So this was like the. Was it you time? I'm not seeing like a mention, you know, was this like a. What do they do this for? Like February, February digital issue. OK, so it's a digital issue with seven covers. Always doing. No, I know. And it's like, is this the one is really more homes on the cover of Sports Illustrated? Like she was last year for the big one. OK, but this isn't she was. Yeah, but you know they have like eight. It's so crazy how quick. Oh, yeah, they love eight covers. So we have eight digital covers. Is there anything in the magazine? Yes, like all the girls. Do they just make covers? So there's like four or five covers. And then, you know, it's like all the girls' spreads are in there. So what's going to be in this one? Is it going to be like more wags? I wonder why they didn't have Olivia. She's sort of illustrated girly. She's so SI. I actually could see her turning down. she's been like she talks a lot because she does all these get ready with me's about how like she hasn't bounced back in the way that she wanted to um which is insane because she looks perfect um so i actually could see her turning it down like be like not yet yeah like because she's done it before and i think like she'll get it offered it again yeah that's just conjecture based quite literally on her get ready with me's yeah that's like molly when she didn't want to walk in the l'oreal fashion show and like that's real yeah that is so real yeah and just like the confidence knowing that they're going to offer it to you like another time there will be another if i got it once i'll get it again yeah not like oh my god this is my one chance i have to do it even though i don't want to yeah if you got offered to like walk in sports illustrated swim week or on beyond right now no like that actually sounds off not one part of me would be like oh yeah so guys please don't offer it like yeah don't waste your time give it to someone who really wants it after my children my breast lift my reduction and my tummy tuck give me a call maybe like i'll see you in in actually 10 years yeah but this is a great concept yeah i love it and i just like i really love wag culture and i know like maybe it's not woke or whatever i just like it yeah i do feel like they don't like the term but that just doesn't work for me i know i actually the last time i was hanging out with kristen use check i was like do you like hate wagon she was like yeah like they do find it to me and like i get it but like i love it it's so it's so cute think of the joy that it brings america yeah but they don't like it and you notice the word wag was not on the cover like and they don't say wag it's just sort of now it's implied that implied wag but like what did they say then you know they didn't i think we all just put together like six is saying wag but si is i just put it together and then i was like oh wait it's a bunch of wags and normani The new era of NFL wags. Oh. It's wagalicious. I didn't know that was happening. Oh, here, this is what they said. For years, wag has been a word used about women. Rarely won women. Rarely won women were invited to define. Rarely won women. For themselves. Wasn't Sports Illustrated the one that was accused of having, like, AI write articles? Let's see. Let's see if this is giving chat. It came loaded with assumptions. Glamour over grit. Proximity over purpose. But that version of the story is obsolete. I'm sorry. It's so chat. Yeah. In today's sports culture, the women on the sidelines aren't waiting to be seen. They're already leading. That's true. Our February digital issue spotlights six women who are doing exactly that, reshaping what it truly means to be a so-called wag by simply being themselves. I want to see if there's a name associated with this. With the article? Yeah. Or is it just written by chat bot? Batista. Chat Batista. it has like photographed by swimsuits by i'm not seeing like an author 1000 they're never beating those chat alligators and i actually appreciate like them not spending wasting money on like writers because quite literally nobody's picking up this magazine for the words you know what i mean oh like i'm looking for some thought-provoking you know reading material for my flight let me pick up sports illustrated swimsuit edition wait this is so funny the entire article is about wag and they asked each of the models what does the term wag mean oh so funny i like how we're sitting here being like i wonder this is a wag i wonder how they feel okay so what do they say okay so normani said i feel like the term wag definitely needs to be redefined i feel very sexy i feel like i'm in my divine femininity the photographer is incredible this is going to be iconic okay thanks for not answering the question although i do feel like wag wouldn't need to take back the term but wag would mean different things to different people like normani is obviously like an accomplished performer at like she has so many different things going on outside i think where it becomes derogatory is where it's like you know we wouldn't know this person unless they were a wag yeah britney mahomes said i think being the significant other to an nfl player is an incredibly hard role and we take on a lot of important stuff it seems that people don't get to see agreed but we also get to enjoy life and do things that we love too yeah no britney mahomes is kind of like the quintessential wag right like we she's on the cover of sports illustrated because of her husband we wouldn't know her or her work if it wasn't for you know the job that her husband had so like she's someone i find it like normani's not a wag yeah kristen goff's got the right attitude she's a wag she said i feel like the word wag has gotten such a bad rap of over the years i just think being a wag is so much more than being the wife of a football player yeah yeah and but she's the quintessential wag yeah okay i feel wagged out now i'm like saying it's so much the word wag it's like we're all saying the same thing like everyone's afraid but like it sounds like everybody likes being called a wag and like it's very convenient you know yeah it's a convenient descriptor and it's it's so um like embedded in culture now like good luck not saying it you know yeah you sort of just have to let it go. 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They're teasing fights affair rumors and more so the smallest state is ready to prove its home to some of the biggest drama the first trailer for the real houses of long island of rhode island fans got a taste of what they can expect from the new bravo show so we got a bunch of cast members including ashley from the bachelor and one of dolores catania's friends a former miss rhode island a pizzeria owner a town gossip you've got it all so the trailer looks horrible like literally so like lowbrow and i was like it's just annoying because like rhode island itself is so pargy and like they open up the trailer you know drone footage of these insane waterfront estates and you just know none of the housewives that they've cast live there i just have quite literally no hope for this franchise the trailer looked it just looked like um it actually looked like you know a parody of housewives like something snl would put together like a bunch of women who all look the same arguing with each other about nothing i could not tell and like trying to have like iconic sayings like it was so like cringing cliche and like nothing new or never been done before and it's really crazy to me that bravo would pick this up but not the golden life a thousand percent also and i really don't mean to be mean or like um holier than thou in any sense or like i don't know what the word is but like a pizzeria owner is just not going to cut it for me personally you i i judge housewife franchises um on the level of wealth i'm sorry it is an aspirational show and i do think they have found success in certain markets not just going for like the uber uber wealthy like i think you know salt lake city none of the women are particularly wealthy um but it works this is just giving like really it's supposed to be a aspirational show show also actually i posted like her cast photo which by the way i think she's a great reality tv um person and but it's almost like they have eight ashley eyes yeah no because her caption was from roses to pearls and let me tell you i'm clutching those pearls that i don't own because it's scary over here so it's like she's obviously coming in as like the one of lesser means and it's like just so contrived and i i'm it looks really bad and i'm always really open-minded i love a new franchise i actually love like a franchise in its infancy more than i i you know then a few years later when i sort of yeah especially if they live in an interesting location they keep saying the smallest state with the biggest drama like they just keep saying the same thing i'm like this is fake yeah it being a parody of an snl like that's a great way to put it it's like what everyone thinks housewives is and like we know housewives is so much more like you don't even know the first thing about housewives oh i literally got emotional at last night's episode i started crying when bose was having that like it is such a dynamic what people think and like this is just seriously a slap in the face like it's hard like if you had to ask like someone who's never seen housewives to put together together a trailer of what they think housewives is that's what it would be yeah it was really disappointing yeah like i don't think i'll give it a shot yeah and i just can't believe that they would pass on golden life and go with something like that because the bar is obviously in hell yeah like we're picking up tv shows give us a tv show yeah and like with p it really is the more i think about it like so crazy that they let the show go when they have peacock like i understand maybe at one time when they were just a cable network like we only have so many slots the amount of crap on peacock throw one more on there yeah you never know what's going to take off that's what happened the real housewives of miami yeah it was a peacock exclusive because like somebody pitched it and they were like sure throw it on peacock and it became so popular it became it started airing on bravo bravo yeah yeah so hopes are not high no hopes are not high and it was it was disappointing to see now let's talk about the real houses of beverly hills uh episode that was on last night that was so amazing i felt so i felt i don't know maybe i'm like in like a luteal phase but i was feeling very strong emotions like i felt very angry on dorit's behalf like i literally thought like i think kyle's disgusting based on her behavior like i don't know if i was just like having an outsized reaction to it but like her like publicly taking amanda's side like in front of the whole group this girl she's known for five minutes i guess her and dorit have you know they're in a bad like not a great spot but they have so many years of friendship and history like i thought it was so disgusting i am a little conflicted and i got like when fucking rachel asso stepped in on Dorit's behalf. And Dorit was like, thank fucking God. Like, yes. Yeah, because Dorit was no one was floundering. Yeah, I'm a little conflicted because I'm team Dorit all the way. However, Kyle's point that Dorit talking about all this stuff on TV might come back not be the best thing for her in the end is correct, obviously. But quite literally, nobody's even disputing that. Like, it's just it's not the message. It's the delivery. Like to say it to Amanda like weeks ago is so disgusting. also i i i am kyle did lead that conversation amanda did just agree agreed like so by the way we're not even talking about amanda anymore like as we shouldn't be because all she was said was like yeah agreed yeah her problem is with kyle and she hasn't seen that she was just given information by sutton a little bit misleading and get that information the dinner at kathy hilton's house under the gazebo amanda told amanda just regurgitated what kyle like sort of made it her own thought and it sounded like an amanda original yes i think at the reunion everyone will have a little bit more clarity that it's kyle's original thought and she's by the way she's so valid like anything you think yeah and this is serious like a good friend would say it off camera alone but a fine friend would say it alone period um saying it in front of everyone multiple times like and they're just in a bad spot and it's true like anything kyle's like bose could say it and dorit would be like yeah of course and then kyle could say the same thing and it's because kyle is coming from a bad place. It's true because Bo's only has Dorit's best interest in mind. She doesn't even know PK. She doesn't talk to me. Hey, when something comes from Kyle, you have to question what her other motives are because like she has other irons in this fire. And Erica's been like pissing me off these last like two seasons because she says what I'm thinking in her confessionals. And yes, she shouldn't like call out Kyle in front of everyone. That's like a bad look. But she doesn't ever like tell Kyle that she's wrong. And I don't know, like there's something to be said yes Dorit is saying too much about PK but like Kyle's not saying anything about her divorce like at least you know Dorit's having like a human reaction to it and it's like well it's nice that you're not fighting about finances and it's like that you're not fighting over custody your kids are all grown like how nice for you and that's your experience and there's clearly a lot going on behind closed doors with Mauricio and Kyle like that we don know about obviously and like you not just best friends and then just get a divorce and everything like totally fine So at least like Dorit being honest with the group And it like if Dorit was putting on a brave face and acting like everything was fine and not opening up, they would say you're not being real. We feel like something's going on. You can't. So you can't win. Yeah. And like Amanda is really annoying. But like this really wasn't even about her. She's being very Crystal Kong. And I like that everyone's just like sort of brushing it off. Like we really can't entertain moronic. We can. This franchise is better than that. Like we don't have to stoop that low. Maybe the Real Housewives of Rhode Island do, but like we don't have to stoop that low. There's enough meat here. I'm so team Dorit. Like it's insane. And I was getting so annoyed. Like it's like slowly becoming a pile on. And then thankfully Rachel Zoe stepped in. And I just I love Rachel Zoe. And like this Rachel Zoe Dorit Bose triangle. Dweem team. Dweem team. Dweem team. Yeah. Obsessed. no i was happy for dorit that like rachel stepped in and i think i just think it's awkward i think that rachel doesn't like kyle it's just like the vibe that i'm getting oh and she's really good friends with kathy yeah even when she went over to kathy's house i was talking about like the group the group she was talking about kyle yeah but kathy is oh like she she won't like jump in but like you can like remember when kyle had renna over to like with kathy unforgivable like seriously the unforgiveness so like there's not that that line for them i got really really choked up for bows when she found out that like both of the like the two eggs that they made into embryos like just didn't take um like that was really sad i know it was sad to watch but i do have it in the back of my head that the rumor we heard which is like booing me because i think that it's going to turn out okay right like i guess she does go and do it again yeah um or the the doctor has suggested like using someone else's eggs. Right. I'm sorry. Bose is just firing on all cylinders as a housewife. And I do think it's a real testament because a lot of times housewives come on and their personal stories and like the first early seasons of their life, whether it's about like a family thing or, you know, trying to have a baby. It doesn't always hit for me. I'm like, I don't really know you yet. Bose has had such a stellar. What is this? Her second, third season. That's insane. Like I got so emotional for her and yeah, I think it's just her second. That's so crazy. Her impact is insane. And me and Ben were cackling. She just makes us laugh. She makes us cry. She's such a voice of reason. And I know a criticism of her is that she's just like blindly team to read. But like, I'm sorry if you're a moral person, like you are team to read. And I think when someone is your real best friend, that's how best friends act. Like, oh, you're fighting with my best friend. I have my best friends back because I know my friend. I trust my fave. Like, it's not just a blind loyalty. It's like, that's what friendship is. Any ever heard of friendship? Kyle was being really crazy. Like, she was getting so angry. it was like a really bad night for kyle you're really angry yeah that's what it was she was just like like oh my god no i'm wondering and i hate when everyone says to you talk too much it is tired it is tired and you know what like everyone's always coming for dorit and then they're like well you're talking too much how the fuck is she ever supposed to respond yeah i hate that shit i like that she said that's old because i think it is old and like i'm just i'm like triggered by it her title should have had to do with something about talking to her tagline you mean her memoirs yeah what's her memoir title like an unmemorable memoir memoirs of a dorit i know that would be memorable memoirs of a kemsley i wonder if she's gonna change her last name i feel like that's something you do when you really fucking hate your ex-husband it is called unburdened yeah and we said that'd be a better title for kamala you're right than 107 oh yeah but that wasn't her memoirs that was like the day of her campaign yeah but that but she should put that in her back pocket one day to do unburdened yeah that's her word yeah and i feel like she actually is burdened by a lot like i think that whole thing was traumatizing for her so to read is unburdened and then there's a there should be a subheader that's bad yeah it is it should have been like talking too much right or just like something yeah different and better it was a great episode i guess not my job right like literally this is not my book this is not my place um yeah they're a great group of women. I love Rachel Zoe. I love Rachel Zoe. And I always I just feel really like shocked and grateful that she's on the show. And she's getting like she cried to what do we owe this pleasure? But I actually think it's very good for her. Like I think her business is successful. Like I don't think she's in the growing stages anymore. Like it's a billion dollar business on its own. I think financially she's set. So I think this is very much like for her public image. I think maybe people would consider her like cold or but no her fifth episode and she's crying love that um i think this is a great thing for her you know q score yeah i think also when she was talking to kathy about how she usually goes to europe and the hamptons during the summer and the summer she's not working it's because she's doing the show yeah but she makes him go to the hamptons next weekend okay good she needs a vacation yeah yeah yeah that was funny it was um now let's have it to the recap of the greatest show on earth which is traders last night's episode spoiler alerts coming in we had two people go home two kind of firecrackers like we are really left with the worst people yeah and that was my fear with this show like the worse and more boring you are the farther you will go with the more of a splash that you make the harder you play the game you will be eliminated with the exception of rob we are left with just like the big group of losers that's eric and this is not personal they're just boring eric christine mark ballast johnny and tara steven like everyone who's been mora during honestly i'm putting all my all my eggs in this basket everyone's saying there's no one left to root for like all the more interesting people are gone now it's like we're rooting for dorinda which yeah even i feel that way i'm rooting for steven coletti well the only hope that we have of someone figuring out it's rob is steven coletti because candace told him on the way out he's gonna have to do a little bit of mental gymnastics to be like is it possible that rob turned on all of his traitors yeah because usually when up until a certain point in the show, if a traitor is throwing out a name, they're throwing out the name of a faithful. They want to kill the faithfuls. So at what point do you think that the traitor is throwing out the name of a traitor? It could really you can make both arguments. Yeah, they just have to sit around and be like the thought process of like traitors backing traitors is kind of not possible anymore. There isn't someone left here who has backed up Lisa. They don't know Donna was a secret traitor and Candace. So maybe we need to rethink. and so he's not the hero we wanted but he's kind of the hero we need steven colletti he's our only hope yeah um i thought johnny i'm sorry eric being like i know whose handwriting this is it's johnny like magical ears you mean he's got red he's so dumb and like when i saw him walk through breakfast i'm like fuck and i actually i believe and then and then when spoiler rob chooses him like recruits him as a traitor i'm like fuck more eric now i do believe that this show is very difficult when you're in it so like yeah eric's dumb but like i don't think that i would be doing any better i have no issue with someone being dumb shout out to tara fucking lipinski for being like wait i'm terrible at this game like yes queen you are and i imagine i would be too and you're right it does take a very specific type of sociopath like rob to be succeeding in the way that he is and it's i feel like almost like a sealed fate at this point like he's got everyone on lock he's got the double dagger um nobody thinks it's him more is in love with him the women think he's hot they're not going to come from the men respect him so much because he's the only like alpha in the group now um so like are we just gonna watch five more episodes of him like playing everyone like a fiddle like it's boring yeah and i'm like mad at him i don't feel like warm and fuzzy towards him i don't like what he did but i respect that like yeah no he's great at the game but like at what cost okay i don't like what he did to lisa and candace it didn't have to be like that maybe for lisa like you and i disagree yeah i don't think he had to go so hard at least i think he could have let her be banished and not coming to help her i would have been fine with that he didn't need to facilitate it in that way but i don't fault him for not saving her yeah i do wish him and candace could have continued to work together because people were not really saying candace yeah except colton and then he got murdered that night like it was safe yeah no rob killed candace yeah is that blood i was just thinking is there blood on this tissue no um i cleaned off my lip gloss earlier but is there lip gloss on my face i just used the tissue okay i was like am i dying she like coughed blood no it's just just my lip gloss it's like a victorian yeah like when you cough it's like in the movie you know when they go yeah blood that person dies um back to traitors yeah rob facilitated the banishment of candace he could have easily swayed them one way or the other so yeah everyone is eating out of the palm of his hand even though candace like you know she did everything that she could on her way out to point it towards rob that night they're in the library kristin and eric are like could it be rob no oh my god i'm so excited for rob for eric's reaction to realize eric's they have to post the video of colton now yeah let me see if they post it And that's a fault in the show. We need to see on camera these people who got murdered finding out who the traitors are. It's just this little series they do on their Instagram like a day or two after the episode airs. And it's not working for me because the way I needed to see. Let's see if they posted it. No. And I will say that Candace was great at this game. She got screwed. And I understand why she's like not following Rob in real life and why there's beef. yeah she was very good he let her kill colton knowing that he had already threw thrown her name out there yeah that's just like backstabbing and what's the point like at a certain point the show becomes pointless do we want the traitors to win as a group right yeah what is the point now what is the point i guess the point like that we're all championing is for everyone to figure out that it's rob or what would be and then what a bunch of losers win and we have like four winners of traitors and it's like i guess like we could be happy for steven and dorinda dream team i feel like they're gonna get killed it's gonna wind up being like mark kristin oh i had hoped that he would this would have been interesting if what's the name rob had chosen john recruited johnny because everybody has the heat on johnny um but then tara yeah so that's the only way that or one way that johnny and tara's best friendship would have actually made the show interesting because rob said he almost chose johnny to be a traitor with him because everyone's going to kill johnny anyway and then you're getting rid of two people right but if johnny's best friends with tara rob doesn't know that and then johnny tells tara listen rob just recruited me i'm a traitor right now are you allowed if you're a traitor can you tell someone you're a traitor like and form an alliance or something but that's what colton tried to do with lisa renna i think you can okay so that would have been really interesting they should have encouraged him to choose johnny yeah and then it would have all been for something he couldn't have chose someone less interesting which was his strategy um i'm watching a television show i'm trying to be entertained and like eric's not cutting it no and we were open with eric like oh how interesting they casted a music producer like he's a songwriter but okay you said like they really cast a wide net and we like we have eric and that's very exciting um but my my time with eric has come to an end my time with eric came to end weeks ago like i literally forgot he was still there and now it's just like pissing me off maura yeah she gives nothing she's i i loop her into like the group of losers um and i don't really she i guess she like did sniff out candace like but i don't really agree that like because her throw away was rob right why that and then now she's going for him what does that mean why is that weird okay so candace's only problem at the round table was her evidence against rob was so weak like him dropping the fork she i kept thinking she should have brought up something else wait hold on when it comes to rob oh she should have said like everyone thinks colton dying is like a reflection on me i feel like it's a reflection on colton like i mean excuse me on rob like it's so obvious like that's your best friend in the game no one would think you it is you right like she could have gotten more creative with her rob accusation but i do think just to leave it in the minds of people because now her dumb fork thing is not impactful yeah i do think she did as good as she could at the round table kept her composure she kept her composure she threw out good arguments you know unlike lisa rena who just kept saying i don't know who said she was going to come to the round table and you know lisa fucking rena and there was nothing so i think candace played the game amazingly like i have mad respect for her there's nothing more that she could have done yeah because she was screwed yeah i just hope somebody puts together that they're probably at the point now where one of the traders has turned on the rest of the traders so everything we thought up until this point about like who voted for it's kind of over and so if they get rob out now then like they win yeah and they've split the money got it um i liked the challenge i feel like we were talking last week about how like less physically demanding challenges and more like this one wasn't intellectual but it was funny um i liked it yeah it was funny christine know that the shield was in that thing it was the only one that had a backing all the other pictures really smart canvas yeah where has that sort of intellect been this whole time i was shook yeah so they'll kill someone tonight eric and yeah and rob unless eric says he doesn't want to be a traitor and he just leaves then he's dead okay i feel like so either it's no eric or someone else dies i wonder who i think eric's probably going to accept the traitordom um and maybe he'll be the hero like he'll sacrifice himself i feel like they'll kill johnny or tara because they were close to Candace. Yeah, but that's good. They shouldn't kill because Johnny's a great distraction until Johnny gets home. Like, right. They won't kill Johnny. Right. Or Tara. Why? Why not Tara? Because Tara's close to Johnny. Like, that's just they're like a good distraction. They're so crazy, too. Like, they are so inconsistent. Yeah. But they're not going to kill Mark because he just goes along. He's a follower. Follower. Yeah. Maura. Stephen. Stephen is a threat. But Stephen's also a distraction. Yes, he is. Dorinda but also the theory that it's a turret of housewives like it's still possible so that would be a good theory too okay see you next week oh we will Queenie and Weenie Queenie and Weenie our final segment of the week where Jackie and I create two awards Queenie of the Week and Weenie of the Week and it's just like it sounds if you did something Queenie like you'll be the Queenie of the Week and if you were a major weenie this week you will be Weenie of the Week my Queenie is Candace yeah you know and i've been hard on her and i do feel like tabula rasa and she did so well that i've come back from any like negative opinions i held of her i thought she played a great game very respectfully very and she made a lot of great friends she seems like a great girl and i think overall trade is was really great for her agreed team monique always and forever to eternity but i'm separating in that situation exactly but in this situation team candace yeah and i had low expectations of her you're right i mean i was wrong and i'm a woman enough to admit that yeah my queenie goes out to moira rose herself katherine o'hara devastating week for the for the community um she's a queen may she rest in peace and i mean that you know all capitals yeah and then my weenie goes to the person at bravo who chose to green light real houses of rhode island instead of the golden life and my weenie goes to the person at bravo who passed on the golden life right right yeah i think hopefully they're the same person so they can be one weenie or be a shared title it definitely was a group whoever said yes to Rhode Island and no to the golden life you know I heard that and this is just what I read in a TikTok comment that Ramona is banned from the network why um I guess like you know some of the unsavory things of like the last couple of seasons not being like so woke or whatever I just feel like like oh like everyone at Bravo's like has a little bit of that and why Ramona would be banned from the network does she go to bravo con i was gonna just ask you that i feel like let me ask chat is she on watch what happens live i don't think that's true and i also feel like those women when was the last time ramona singer was at bravo con those women would have dropped her in a second they would have said i can't be on our show if we can be on bravo yeah so i i'm gonna say false you read it in a tiktok comment yeah yeah i read it in a tiktok comment um the last time ramona singer actually appeared at a bravo con event according to chat was bravo con 2022 she was scheduled to tell oh she was scheduled to attend bravo con 2023 in vegas but was disinvited from the event amid controversy over resurfaced allegations and a publicized comment and therefore did not appear in 2023 okay the most recent bravo con was 2020 and when was the last time she was on watch what happens live when was the last time she was on watch what happens live as a guest or like you know you know doorbell or whatever and i feel like avery bartends really i feel like you're thinking like a while ago maybe i'm living in the past and you're right like they would have dropped ramona off that show they have enough like 1000 there's no widely reported extremely recent watch what happens live appearance by ramona singer in 2024 or 2025 she was a freaking guest through her time as a ronin cast member through 2021 oh so you could be like banned from the network and then be unbanned like meanie yeah so she has not been on watch what happens live in 2020 so it seems like the last time she was something happened in 2023 bravo con cancer and that was like the last time she was on watch what happens live and she hasn't been at the network since okay but she also hasn't been on a show there since like 2020 yeah like so what could she have done but also like nini was suing bravo and now she's back on bravo it's true they could unban it means nothing it means nothing a lifetime ban is not a thing it's not a thing they can be mad at her and then be unmad like yeah i'm sorry tiktok commenter i'm yeah sorry i just feel like um recently i've been like reading a lot of tiktok comments so i just wanted to know like everything is a lie or just just everything is just you just can't take things at face value i'm sorry yeah you cannot from a tiktok comment or tiktok okay like otherwise you think i have beef with natalie right when that was not the case no sending peace and love so much love guys that's our show that's our week hope you had a fabulous week had a great time thank you guys so much for listening to the gentleman i want to show you the fastest racing every minute through friday and youtube so you're watching us on youtube please subscribe to subscribe and give us a thumbs up also by the podcast and where podcasts have been on so that's what i do to your public radio i already cast all the places where we sit on podcast videos so don't see you five-star review about a beautiful 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