BREAKING! The White House Attempted To Rescind This E-mail. | Candace Ep 338
50 min
•May 14, 202617 days agoSummary
Host Candace Owens claims the White House attempted to rescind an email sent after an alleged shooting at the White House Correspondents Dinner, which directed staff to amplify a viral video of Erica Kirk. The episode explores alleged financial irregularities at Turning Point USA, connections between organization leadership and White House officials, and questions surrounding the circumstances of Charlie Kirk's death.
Insights
- Internal government communications employ 'canary tactics' with intentional variations to identify and trace document leaks to specific individuals
- Timing and prioritization of messaging strategies in crisis situations may reveal underlying motivations beyond immediate safety concerns
- Financial incentives and business relationships between political organizations and their leadership can create potential conflicts of interest
- Coordinated amplification of specific narratives through approved surrogates represents a documented communication strategy in high-level political operations
- Organizational leadership transitions occurring immediately before major incidents warrant scrutiny for potential connections
Trends
Government use of sophisticated leak-detection technology in internal communicationsRapid narrative control and social media amplification strategies in crisis managementFinancial irregularities and missing funds in political organizationsConflicts of interest in dual executive roles across related organizationsCoordinated messaging between political organizations and government agenciesPost-incident business acceleration and monetization strategiesInternational diplomatic appointments following domestic political incidents
Topics
White House Communications StrategyDocument Leak Detection MethodsTurning Point USA Financial IrregularitiesCrisis Narrative ManagementPolitical Organization Leadership ConflictsSocial Media Amplification TacticsGovernment Email Rescission ProceduresExecutive Role Conflicts of InterestBook Publishing and Political MonetizationWhite House Deputy Chief of Staff Activities
Companies
Turning Point USA
Organization where alleged financial irregularities and missing funds were discussed; subject of internal audit annou...
Turning Point Action
Subsidiary organization where approximately $10 million in funds allegedly went missing according to sources
America's Turning Point
Organization mentioned in connection with alleged missing funds and financial irregularities
Winning Team Publishing
Conservative book publishing company co-founded by Sergio Gore and Don Trump Jr.; Justin Strife holds position there
CNN
Sarah Seidner of CNN was first to upload viral Erica Kirk video to social media after alleged incident
White House Military Office
Sent communications directing amplification of Erica Kirk video and later attempted to rescind email
White House Communications Agency
Government agency mentioned in connection with email distribution and leak detection procedures
Salem Media
Media organization mentioned in context of financial relationships and money flows
People
Candace Owens
Podcast host conducting investigation into White House communications and Turning Point USA activities
Justin Strife
Promoted to COO seven days before Charlie Kirk's death; allegedly made calls about book orders and mysterious billion...
Erica Kirk
Subject of viral video; allegedly approved book order expansion hours after Charlie Kirk's death; now leads organization
Charlie Kirk
Deceased founder of Turning Point USA; allegedly discovered missing funds before death
Sergio Gore
Co-founder of Winning Team Publishing; allegedly had close working relationship with Charlie Kirk; appointed ambassad...
Don Trump Jr.
Co-founder of Winning Team Publishing which stands to benefit from book sales promoted by Turning Point leadership
Sarah Seidner
First person to upload viral Erica Kirk video to social media after alleged White House incident
Stephen Chung
Copied on White House Military Office email regarding Erica Kirk video amplification
Ryan Ripian
Copied on White House Military Office email regarding Erica Kirk video amplification
Gustav Anderle
Copied on White House Military Office email; works in Arlington, Virginia location
Tyler Boyer
Heads organization where alleged missing funds occurred; connected to superfeed backdoor payments
Lori Fransfe
Erica Kirk's mother; allegedly receives payments through superfeed backdoor at Turning Point Action
Nick Shirley
Subject of criticism for alleged gang infiltration claims in Brazil; defended by Jessica Reed-Crowse
Jessica Reed-Crowse
Defended Nick Shirley by sharing testimonials from his elementary school teachers
Blake Neff
Co-host of Charlie Kirk Show; subject of caution regarding Erica Kirk background information
Emmanuel Macron
Subject of alleged slap incident at Hanoi Airport; allegedly texting actress Gorshifte Varahani
Brigitte Macron
Allegedly slapped Emmanuel Macron over text messages to actress; subject of ongoing investigation
Quotes
"The reason why we were running late is because I do not particularly like playing trust me, bro. When it comes to the show, I like to show you the evidence and we do have the email."
Candace Owens•Early in episode
"Amendment to the Erica Kirk video clip, the video clip of Erica Kirk leaving the ballroom area and stating, quote, I just want to go home is driving our highest organic engagement of all incident related content across platforms."
White House Military Office email•Mid-episode
"Our recommendation forward is that all communication channels should amplify this clip further, coordinate with digital partners and our approved surrogates to elevate the reach and ensure dominant placement in the overnight information environment."
White House Military Office email•Mid-episode
"I could never imagine approaching a widow after what should have been a shock murder. I would imagine she'd be in a catatonic state, right? I just would imagine there wouldn't even be a person to address."
Candace Owens•Mid-episode
"It's not a Candice curse. It's divine justice. Those who are evil will be destroyed, but those who hope in the Lord will inherit the land."
Flame of Love Carmel (commenter)•End of episode
Full Transcript
All right, you guys, happy Wednesday. Sorry we're running a few minutes late. We were doing a lot of fact checking and I think it will be well worth the wait because about that White House Correspondence Dinner. I gotta tell you guys, a very curious thing happened. Afterward, I've learned that the White House attempted to rescind an email that went out shortly after the shooting, shooting. It was a communications email, which may go a long way in terms of explaining how that Erica Kirk moment went so viral. And on that note, I also learned an interesting thing about Justin Strife, the COO. He became the COO seven days before Charlie died of Traring Point USA. And I've told you guys he's the person who allegedly phoned the mysterious Pierre on that day. Well, not only did he make that rather suspicious phone call, but he also called someone else with an approval from Erica herself. I will just say when you learn who else he called, you're just gonna probably feel like I feel these people had some curious priorities that day, which seemed to center around making money. I'll say that. And across the pond over in France, Brigitte, I miss Brigitte, Brigitte and Emmanuel Macron have spun out a new explanation regarding that slap heard around the world. And I would say it's not that believable. Welcome back to Candice. Well, well, well, my friends. Seek and you shall find. You shall find fakeness and you shall find gayness everywhere. We are all living the Truman Show. So I'll just jump right to it. Apparently the White House military office sent out communications shortly after our alleged shooting, right? I feel like Austin Powers, the shooting, you know, the one that took place at the press correspondence dinner, which then everyone started speaking about how we needed a ballroom. And I will say we're off the bat. Of course, it's not exactly weird that they would want to coordinate messaging, right? Just to be clear, because if indeed the commander in chief's life was truly at risk, the president, as well as the number two, the VP also in the room, he gets taken out. If they're both potentially in the line of fire, then yes, it would absolutely be appropriate for our military to be coordinating messaging with the nation to the nation about their safety. Everyone's OK. You know, this has been resolved. But something else happened. So to jog your memory, the shooting took place at 8.36 p.m. Eastern. OK. That's when the Secret Service began firing at one another. It's who we've since learned. Then at 9.25 p.m., so a little under an hour later, Sarah Seidner, you will recall of CNN, she became the first person on social media to upload the now infamous I want to go home video, Erica Kirk. And we can show you that that's when she uploaded it. There is a tool where you can look at the metadata of Instagram posts. She posted it onto Instagram. Here it is in the corner there. It will tell you that she posted it at 1.25 p.m. and you are looking at universal time. OK. 1.25 a.m. universal time. That is 9.25 p.m. Eastern time. OK. What happened next? Approximately 9.49 p.m. So less than 20 minutes later after that video went out, the White House military office sent out an updated communication. Oddly, within that communication, they describe an amendment to the Erica Kirk video clip, OK, the traction of which they were monitoring. Now, I can get behind the military office wanting to communicate. Don't quite understand why this moment would be something that they were monitoring and then sending out language about how they wanted this to be the focus of the evening. That point seems to me to be a bit odd. So I will say right here, the reason why we were running late is because I do not particularly like playing trust me, bro. When it comes to the show, I like to show you the evidence and we do have the email. We have the email chain. But I am going to have to spend some of my earned credit with you guys and not show you a copy of this email exactly because we were very quickly able to determine that the Department of Defense is using what is known as a canary tactic to root out would-be leakers, right? So I think I've told you about this is shortly after Charlie's assassination. They similarly implemented this at Turning Point USA. What this means is that the IT departments are able to implement a strategy so that when they send out emails to everyone, you know, just going to send out a mass email, they are able to issue these slight variations to everyone's email. So the word might be different. The time might be different. Barely noticeable watermarks throughout the email, intentional typos. They can use AI programs that will do this so that every email that goes out is slightly differentiated and it helps them identify immediately the source of a leak. Smart for our military to be using that. But obviously we sat here and were like, we can't share this publicly because they will be able to determine exactly who sent around this email and people could lose their jobs. To prove to you that I am not lying, I can give you a few of the names of the people that were copied on this email. Stephen Chung was copied on the email. Ryan Ripian was copied on the email and a gentleman named Gustav Anderle was copied on the email. I actually do want to remember the title of Gustav Anderle because these are people that I wouldn't even know. He is the White House Communications Agency and it looks like it just says that he's the Information Systems Manager at the White House Communications Agency in Arlington, Virginia. So these people have access to the email. Feel free to not trust me, bro, and to go ask the press if I'm telling the truth. You just do that. That's easy. Anyway, I'm now going to read you the relevant portion of this email pertaining to Erica Kirk. Fascinating. Gaslighting us and saying that this was totally just organic. And no, they weren't asking people to boost this clip for any particular reason. It reads, amendment to the Erica Kirk video clip, the video clip of Erica Kirk leaving the ballroom area and stating, quote, I just want to go home is driving our highest organic engagement of all incident related content across platforms. The current assessment of that digital item is that it has generated the strongest emotional response. It is our strongest emotional response assets associated with the incident. It has high cross ideological circulation. So they're on the left or the right, wherever you stand. We're seeing this clip. That's good for us. It has elevated repost velocity amongst political commentary accounts, increasing the use as a symbolic framing device regarding media conduct and national stability narratives. Our recommendation forward is that all communication channels should amplify this clip further, coordinate with digital partners and our approved surrogates to elevate the reach and ensure dominant placement in the overnight information environment. The most viral engagement presently centered around the attendee reaction clip now is circulating across all platforms broadly. Wow. We want that to be number one amplified overnight in the information environment at our military office. I don't know. I just feel like this would not be the number one priority of these individuals in an environment where you don't have any answers. Again, I'm telling you, this is 949 p.m. This is a little over an hour after the shooting took place. Very little answers. A few things were known about who is this guy? Has he been arrested? Is there a further? Are there more shooters? No. This is giving us a good emotional response and we need to now reach out to our surrogates, approved surrogates and get this amplified and circulated across all platforms. We want to see, but by tomorrow morning, this is number one. It's incredible. That is absolutely incredible. Now, as we know, like this would be number one. It was something that we all said. That's kind of weird. Why is this the focus point? Who recorded this video? Who is passing around? I told you, I am told that this was not a video recorded by Sarah Seidner and that instead it was distributed to Sarah Seidner and that they had operatives record that moment. Does that make any sense to you guys? Now, in case you are thinking, well, it's possible that this just keeps happening to Erica Kirk, right? She's just being used. She just wants to go home. This terrible thing has happened and these snakes are the guarded at the White House. They're just using her against her will. I would like to strongly caution you, particularly you, Blakey Neff, what are we 41 days in? I'd caution you against making that argument, because I'm working on a background lead and it just won't be good for you. So just be quiet, okay? Probably we'll have that for you tomorrow. Anyway, what happens next? Now, if you're thinking, okay, well, maybe that's normal is that the White House completely panics because too many people were on this email. They just made a bit of a blunder. I guess you could say the White House military office panicked and they attempted to rescind the email. This is also a plausibility. You can get your IT person, if you make a mistake and send to the wrong person, they can reach in and literally take the email out of everyone's inbox. But for some reason that did not work or it worked too late. I don't know what the issue is, but it did not resolve the issue. They then panicked even further, I am told, and sent out multiple emails instructing the people that were on that email that they absolutely had to delete it. It was an order. You have to delete this. No questions asked. We'll be conversations about this. We need to make sure that you have this deleted. And then they brought in more IT to get involved to deal with this blunder. Now, there are other parts of this email I've read. There is nothing else here that would stand out as needing to become a White House internal emergency to get something deleted. The first part is talking about approved message emphasized. The president is secured. The VP is secured. Everyone's, you know, they're good. That's not problematic. Say that there's no credible, there's no foreign threats. We're going to make sure we monitor any misinformation that's on the platform. That makes sense to me. They also want to, well, they want to monitor adversarial state media framing to make sure that, you know, other states are not lying about what's happening and saying things. They want to monitor that. That all makes sense. The Erica Kirk video, asking to amplify that to make sure that's number one by morning time. That's the part that stands out in this email. Why would that be a focus? Again, just a little over an hour after the VP and the president are taking, taking somewhere secure because there's a potential shooting. I don't need to think about that. And like I said, we'll have more information about that and just put, you know, just keep patting ourselves on the back for the fact that they keep trying to gaslight us and to pretend that we are not living in an embarrassing movie and that they are not all just a bunch of clowns and characters trying to gin up our emotions to sway us one way or the other. And particularly over the last eight months, it's just been like, you need to feel bad for Erica Kirk. That's kind of been a focus of the White House. There is an unnatural alliance here between Turning Point USA and the White House. It's too much. It's feeling a bit squishy in here, which brings me to something else that I discovered. Okay. Let's just play a multiple choice game for people who have common sense. If you don't have common sense, don't play this game. This game is not for you. Okay. It's September 10th, 2025. Your company founder and your boss is tragically assassinated in front of the entire world. And there's a video of him dying, actually, as being spread across social media like wildfire. Do you on this very day, A, tweet something out about Trump needing a ballroom? B, phone Charlie's grieving widow and proposition her about how money can be made? C, call a mysterious billionaire named Pierre or D, none of the above. Now, if you answered D, none of the above and congratulations to your winner. You are not a robot. You know those little tests? You are not a robot. Congratulations. You had one of those CAPTCHA tests. By the way, in case you're like me and the team and never actually knew what CAPTCHA meant or stood for, we learned today that stands for completely automated public Turing tests to tell computers and humans apart. I'd like to, I think just more broadly speaking, we need to be able to tell if these computers versus humans is, I think, the droids are amongst us. But anyway, if you did pass our multiple choice test and if you are not a robot and you said none of the above, that's a win. Of course, if you were Justin Strife, you probably picked both B and C. Because we learned another totally wacky story from our tips line that we were able to verify because they provided proceeds. But Justin Strife, just to jog your memory here, he is the chief operating officer of Turning Point USA. That's a new position to which he was promoted just seven days before Charlie Kirk was assassinated. He was, as you will recall, also the person that Erica brought with her for our sit-down meeting. So we can surmise from that that there is some trust between the two. I remember that I had specifically asked Justin Strife about that audit at Turning Point USA, the audit that Charlie announced at the same time that he promoted Justin. Remember, that was one email before they were starting the Canary email process. We had scooped that and I was like, oh, that's interesting. Does this mean that Charlie trusted Justin? Because he was looking for money and I explained to Justin that I had heard at first what was an outside rumor. Someone outside of the organization that Charlie knew in a personal capacity told me that Charlie opened up to him and said that $10 million was missing from his organization. And that it wasn't Turning Point USA, but it was Turning Point Action and America's Turning Point, right? That tip to me felt solid, but it was very difficult given who gave the tip. But it was very difficult for me to trust an outsider's perspective, their word on the inner workings of the company. But then, lo and behold, someone from within the company, within the organization, confirmed to me. They said Justin was actually overheard on the phone yelling about missing money, that all of the money was missing from Turning Point Action. How curious. Now, it's worth noting, I'll say allegedly, but it's worth noting that Turning Point Action is headed up by Tyler Boyer and we have already explained to you that they have built that superfeed backdoor which pays Lori Fransfe, Erica Kirk's mom. So that would be interesting. That's a compelling lead. If I was the feds looking for things, I would probably go, well, that could cause some friction in your marriage. If there was money missing, if that pans out and that's true, and Charlie discovered there was money missing and then he established this doge to audit himself internally, you know, not the accountant's auditing, which they tried to then say, oh, the accountant's audit every year. No, this was not that. He was establishing a doge. I would consider that to be an interesting lead. Did Charlie suddenly realize that money was evaporating out of his company? I think he did. My personal opinion, I'm going to stick to it. Anyway, but what's fascinating in all the wrong ways is that we learned that on the day that Charlie died, Justin Strife made another phone call. He allegedly, I'll say allegedly, called a former U.S. Army interrogator turned book printer. And that's what Justin had on his mind. He wanted to take care of ordering a boatload more of Charlie's upcoming book. Let's get that to the printer. Let's plan on ordering another tens of thousands more of stop in the name of God. That's the book that Erica would then go on tour and promote. They had previously prepared to put in order, I think of 25 to 50,000 books, but just hours after Charlie died, Justin Strife allegedly, apparently, reached out to the printer and said that let's order some more books. I'm going to ask Erica, and I'll call you back, but we're going to need to at least double that order. And he allegedly did just that. He reached out to Erica and got her permission, and he immediately circled back to the printing agency and said it's a go. Erica says yes. Now, you know, I'm often told online, particularly by Zionists, that I'm demonic, I'm evil, all these things, but I can tell you I could never imagine approaching a widow after what should have been a shock murder. I would imagine she'd be in a catatonic state, right? I just would imagine there wouldn't even be a person to address. I could never imagine thinking, hey, I'm going to give her a call and ask if we can get those books going. I'm going to, and I'll circle right back. I've considered a definite yes, but I'm just going to call her real quick and I'll circle back to you. But as we've all learned throughout this series, Erica is just different. She was born for this role. She really was. She was able to just clearly and rationally handle some business on the very day that Charlie was assassinated. And like I said to you, those conversations even about her taking over the board and CEO, that happened early. In 48 hours, that decision was made. She just had that clarity. Didn't need time, understood that that was her focus. Like I will show you more books. And I will say what is especially curious is that I then learned that Justin was reaching out on, in his other capacity. He has a whole other job, a whole other full-time job that I had no idea about. He wasn't, he's not just the CEO of Turning Point USA. I didn't know that you could be in the C-suite and have time to have another full-time job, but Justin Schreiff does it. He's also running winning team publishing. If that sounds familiar to you, that's that book publishing, conservative book publishing company that was started by Sergio Gore and Don Trump Jr. Yeah, Sergio Gore. That's a guy, Israel's guy. The Trump whisperer, he was for a while. Also, Ike Promotter's guy, everybody knows that. Israel's guy, Sergio Gore. Stereous background. So a better way of saying that is that Justin is also receiving money from winning team publishing and would, I would imagine, stand to benefit greatly from high book sales. That seems a little bit too close for comfort to me. Don Jr. too, I would imagine, since he's the co-founder of the company, stood to benefit from those book sales. Sergio Gore at the time of Charlie's death was the White House Deputy Chief of Staff. And there was a lot of colluding between Charlie's office and Sergio Gore's office at the White House. They were sending even employees that were working for Charlie's office, were coming from Sergio Gore's office, vice versa. That's what I've been told. So in that capacity as the White House Deputy Chief of Staff, Sergio Gore was second in command to Suzy Wiles, but he was sort of unceremoniously kicked out, right? They kind of made it seem like it was like, hey, he's being upgraded by being sent to India. But the rumor, the down low, that I can tell you is that there was apparently a bit of a bust up with Elon Musk, okay? So Sergio Gore personally headed out for Elon Musk, he didn't like him. I'm not taking sides, I'm telling you the facts and the alleged facts. And apparently when Elon Musk and Trump had this falling out, Sergio Gore, the Trump whisper was largely behind this falling out, or Elon assumed or thought that he was behind this. And Sergio Gore personally put a stop to Elon Musk's guy, Jared Isaacman, being appointed. Then somebody found out about Sergio Gore and another donor's son, some sort of a relationship, I was told. And there was a little bit of time for Sergio Gore to go before this blows up in the media. And Sergio Gore then got moved to India as the ambassador. He was sort of like randomly named the ambassador to India. And you will recall that it was one of the more bizarre post assassination appearances that was made by our Dr. Kirk. She flew to Washington, D.C., so to the other side of the country, leaving your kids in such an emotionally critical time. You would not be able to watch me away from my children. Just to watch this guy, Sergio Gore, be named ambassador to India, like that could have been a text to Erica. Hey, congrats, Serge. Congrats, Charlie loved you, so cool. Wish you could have been there, but you know, my husband was just murdered. So I'm going to stay here with my kids. Like I said, Erica's different. She's different, she bounces back. And she not only went there, but she said some words, she shared some words with Sergio Gore as well. And here's what she said. Charlie loved you. It's hard not to get emotional because I know that he would have been the first phone call when he found out that you were going to be taking this position. And the way that I was able to witness the two of you work together for years and to champion and support the president was absolutely humbling to witness. And I am so proud of you. I always want to be with you every single day and spirit and I will be praying for you every day because I know that this is just the beginning of an incredible opportunity for you and, and sir, thank you for allowing Sergio to have this beautiful moment. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you, Charlie. And that man's watching over us right now, right? Okay. Does that appearance rank, like that rank high for you for needing to do that to just be there and watching the president sign something for Sergio Gore to go to, to go to India? I feel like these people know each other, like really know each other. We can confirm they're making money with each other. And it was a high priority to think about that money being made on September 10th. There just seems to be a lot of money flowing in and out. Just turning point USA, the White House, Don Trump Jr. We talked about Salem media, just a lot going on here. Justin Streif, how could you fulfill both roles? Could it be a conflict of interest? How about that? Like to become a chief, like don't you check for conflicts or something? I think it could be a conflict of interest. I wouldn't want that. Anyway, it's worth mentioning that Charlie, when I examine these contacts and the money being made. Had he have gone full anti-Israel, it would have been costly to a lot of people, to a lot of people if Charlie had gone anti-Israel. I would say including his wife. Definitively a lot of his sponsors, so many of them had an Israel bend. And it just sort of makes you wonder. I'll leave it at that. We'll be right back after a brief break. Alright you guys, time flies faster than we expect, but when it comes to your goals like building credit, it's never too late to start making real progress. Kickoff is the number one credit building app in the app store with plans starting at just $5 a month. There's no credit check, no hidden fees, and absolutely no interest. In fact, users starting with credit under $600 see an average increase of 86 points just by making on-time payments. Here's how it works. You make your payments, kickoff reports that positive activity to the credit bureaus, and your credit can grow really fast. 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The comments that were coming from the Brazilians were absolutely exceptional because it's just so beyond absurd that you can't even like, there's nothing to do. It's not even upsetting. It's just cartoonish. It's cartoonish is what it is, right? Cartoons don't accept you. They're fake. You just kind of move on. But Nick Shirley is really having a bit of a connipation. He's having a little bit of a breakdown about the fact that people don't believe he has what it takes to infiltrate gangs, the hardest gangs in Brazil in 48 hours with a camera and a microphone without any contacts or something. And this correspondence between him, it's just hilarious. He thinks that we're locked in like a beef of the ages or something. Biggie versus Tupac, right? Like he's just he's so tough. He's tough enough apparently to infiltrate a gang of 48 hours, but he apparently cannot bear the criticism. Totally fair and sensible idea that people who can think rationally and critically aren't buying this. I'm sorry. It's nothing personal. It's just dumb. So the internet drunk Jessica Reed-Crowse, known as house and drinking habit, came to his aid. Like that's what they do. They send out where they get real real reinforcements come in and she tweeted this. So I could not stop laughing. Two of Nick Shirley's elementary school teachers reached out to me recently to praise Nick, recounting what a smart, sweet, kind kid he was throughout his early years. If Candice's attacks on him don't raise your suspicions, you were never rooting for any side. And then Nick responds. This is like, okay, here it is. Here's the proof that I can infiltrate gangs. He writes back this. That's amazing. To this day, I still keep in touch with a few of my teachers on a regular basis. I had some great teachers growing up. And then she takes it a step further and she says, These are the type of DMs I occasionally receive from former teachers of Nick Shirley, glimpses into who he was long before we all knew his name. A driven, thoughtful kid who showed up to help wherever he was needed. It's why Candice Owens is targeting him now. Nick is wildly respected, wildly, widely respected, part of me among conservative media, carrying forward what Charlie Kirk led with, proof that you can build influence and make an impact without relying on crude, rhetoric, shock tactics and conflict. I can't believe this is coming from Jessica Reed. Instead of setting up in a sterile studio, ranting about the state of the country, he's on the ground taking action, infiltrating these scenes in 48 hours to uncover the corruption that the other media won't touch. And he's polite, lived experience lends itself to quality journalism, truth overspends something Candice is not capable of in the end. Old school pursuit of truth will always outlive scripted trash talk. Are you okay, Nick? We are not trying to get you into Harvard. We don't need letters of recommendation from your kindergarten teacher about the fact that you sharpened your pencil on your own and you learned cursive faster than the rest of the class. This is not what we are talking about. Actually, we are specifically speaking about lived experience. People who don't turn to journalists and reporters, it's not like a form of guerrilla journalism to go out there and understand how people live because they're living that way already. That's the point. That's why it's funny. That's why we think it's funny. We're not, I'm sure you're a great kid. I'm sure you were the best in first grade and second grade too. You're probably really sweet kid. I probably had adorable photos and all the stuff and all the things. This is just not at all relevant to whether or not we believe that you infiltrated the most dangerous gang in Brazil in 48 hours. Okay. Like I said, which you took offense to, oh, I didn't know your family reunions were so tough, Candice. Yeah. That's kind of the point. You don't even comprehend that there are families that are so dysfunctional that family events become dangerous after a certain hour. Like they're playing cards, throwing singles on the table. You're not sure what's in the solo cup. Like, yeah, that's kind of the point is that that seems crazy to you. Like that people have dysfunctional families that you kind of have a bunch of people that are after family, but you still love them. It's like a weird dynamic. You know, like they're your family, like they're a little after like they're your family. That's the point, Nick, is you're not accustomed to that. And those people are the ones that are just laughing at the premise, right? Just like I said, just go through the comments. You're not going to be able to sell it to people outside of like gated communities who have, like I said, never been anywhere and try to experience those things through a TV screen or through a cute YouTube channel. And that's great. Like those people will fund you. That's, but for people who have lived a little, it's just implausible. That's us. Nothing personal. You and I are not beefing. I just, there's no letter of recommendation from any grade of schooling that is going to make me believe. In fact, kind of the opposite, the fact that your kindergarten teachers are writing letters of recommendation make me definitely believe that you didn't infiltrate a gang in 48 hours. I don't know. It's just me, not just me. Actually, it's a kind of everyone, everyone who can think. Anyway, I wanted to show you this too, because I guess that everything is just so weird and fake and gay all the time. And so we all recall, of course, the notorious slap heard around the world for Jean Macron, massive hands. It's a thing. It's a like, that's the one thing the doctor can't work on, right? You can get, they get 1000 things, feminization surgery. Look at, oh my gosh, do it again. Let me see. Oh, oh boy. It's like, he's like those things at the gas station that like kind of bounce back. I'm talking about the car wash. I mean, that kind of were like floating like this. Anyway, he bounces back, pulls it together. I didn't expect Sky News to capture that. And then they started rolling out the excuses of what happened. At first they said it did nothing happened. And then they said they were just joking around. And that's what they do. They sort of just wrestle. Now they're rolling out a new excuse because they're realizing, okay, that was a little ridiculous. What can we say to back that up and explain that moment? And there's a new Times headline here that we can show you for Jean Macron slapped husband over text messages to an actress. So like everybody kind of knows Emmanuel Macron's gay. So this, this is just implausible, like right on its face that Brigitte Macron at the, and Emmanuel Macron are arguing because he's texting some hot actress. But that's what they're going with. And they're now saying that, okay, they weren't joking. You're right. Brigitte did give him the business, like, you know, shove the hands right into his face. It was a little embarrassing. We were landing in Vietnam, but we can shed a different light on this. And what you guys actually saw at the Hanoi Airport in May of 2025 is actually the fact that the first lady was angry, angry after seeing a text message to her husband from, and I am definitely not saying this name right, Gorshifte for Arani. They did okay there. Gorshifte for Arani, that is an exiled Arani and actress. And when they questioned for Arani, Varahani, Varahani denied the rumors of any sort of an affair. So that's interesting. It's kind of like two birds, one stone. We kind of want Aran's oil. Let's just go after an Arani and actress. I feel it. I like it. It's good. The West is doing good. This Arani and exiled actress almost broke up this totally normal family, totally normal teacher student family that's happening here between two men. So that's why I wanted to update you guys on that is what is happening over in France. And we got to return to our Brigitte series and, you know, just got court approaching. I think June is the meetup. I'm looking forward to it. I hope me and Brigitte get to meet one day in person. I think that should happen. Brigitte doll needs to be in frame, guys. You got to put Brigitte back there. Like, you know, like a wall. I got Blakey. I got Brigitte. These are the various items that we collect in the studio. People that inspire me. They are the muses of the Candice show. Anyway, you guys will be right back after a brief break. All right, you guys, you know that feeling when you're running on coffee leftovers from your kids play and just pure determination between family work and trying to keep everyone healthy. Moms are usually the last ones taking care of themselves. That's why I've been loving the 100% grass fed organ complex from Paleo Valley. It is an easy way to support your body with some of the most nutrient dense foods on the planet without actually having to cook organ meats. Each serving is made with real grass fed beef organs like liver and heart, which are naturally packed with nutrients that support energy, focus, skin, nails and overall wellness. And because it's from Paleo Valley, you know that you are getting high quality ingredients from responsibly raised 100% grass fed cattle. 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Challenge for you, Nick. Get that phone back for this lady that's called Mentor in the chat. You got it. You have absolutely got it. Okay. Other top comment from yesterday's episode is, do you think Erica watches Candace's show every day with her jaw on the floor? Like, how does she keep figuring this stuff out? No, I think Blakey watches the show every day with this jaw on the floor being like, how does she keep figuring this stuff out? He's just so random. I don't know. I've just grown to like Blake because he's just a disaster. You know, and I do like people that are just a disaster. Blake, yesterday out of nowhere, like just suddenly says on X, like, did you ever follow up and find Commander Neff? And I was like, you mean Captain Adam Neff? Yeah, we did find him. The one that Mitch Snow got questioned by when you guys were sending out a bunch of people, like Paramount, not so tactical to say that this guy was completely lying. It was never on the base and he made up the whole story. Yeah, we did find him and we determined that he was, like, did actually question Mitch, as he said, as the story checked out and he was the nice guy. I don't know why he randomly freaked out about Captain Adam Neff, but then he said that Adam Neff was harassed by my cultists. And I, but he doesn't know. He doesn't know Adam Neff, but he was harassed. And I said, well, that seems a little strange. How would you know that Captain Adam Neff was harassed if you didn't know Adam Neff? So I'm still waiting to hear some feedback from him. I'm sure there's going to be a brilliant answer. He's quite the strategist over there. Okay, comments from today's episode. This person writes, I never really understood the sixth amendment right to a public trial until right now. Thank God for regular people who pay attention. Yes, it is so important. And that's also why I am against all of these now court processes that you can agree to. Like I had agreed to with the Daily Wire, you know, a lot of people sign agreements with people and don't understand why you wouldn't want to go into a private court and have it not be public. Cause you just think, oh, it's just so like, you know, hash out details in the public and that seems sensible. But actually it just allows them to just harass you and they can get away with more when it's not public. And when things are public, the public can look in and they can see exactly what's going on. Flame of Love Carmel writes, it's not a Candice curse. It's divine justice, Psalm 37.9. Those who are evil will be destroyed, but those who hope in the Lord will inherit the land. Oh, I think you're referring to the fact, but I told you that, that time that was quite funny when we were friends, Andrew called me and was like, are you a witch? And like, I just know some people come after you. This bad thing you said to happen. Yeah, no, it's definitely not a curse. I actually, I actually have to endure it as well. Like if I do something bad to people intentionally, like really bad things happen to me really quickly. And that's kind of the reason why I conditioned myself to just tell the truth a lot all the time. Just tell on myself repeatedly, because I just, for some reason, I feel like I have a very fast Oomerang rate. Caroline Cook writes, Candice, have you had a chance to see the Michael biopic yet? It was amazing. I loved your Michael Jackson episode on packing the truth about the allegations and his death. Thank you for bringing truth into light with everything you do. Christ is King. I wanted to see the Michael biopic, but I'm not sure if the wrong people own it. His estate was basically stolen from him by the very people that he was fighting. And so I need to look into who makes money off of it before I promote it or I even see it. That's the most important question because he died and had his entire estate and the Beatles catalog that he owned taken from him. I'm not going to say who took it from him. Jay Lopez writes, May the sacred divine trinity and your angel guardian continue to deliver you and yours from evil. If you'll ask for us, ask of us one Lord's prayer and three Hail Marys daily for the evil ones will have no way out but to bow to the Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ. Every day of a Lord's prayer and the Hail Marys. I do that in homeschooling with the kids. So cute. There's nothing cuter than a bunch of toddlers doing their prayer hands and standing up and saying their prayers every morning. It's just so, so, so sweet. Stars writes everybody say hi to Blakey Neff. We know you're in here fangirling. He loves this show. Number one pod. He doesn't even listen to his own pod. Charlie Kirk show. He doesn't listen to it at all. But he definitely listens to this. And so for that we thank you for being our number one fan. Kelsey Watson writes, I personally find it disgusting that they are still calling it the Charlie Kirk show after everything we now know that they have done. They should rebrand to crashing out with Andrew and Blake. Stop smearing Charlie's good name. It is one long crash out. I have asked myself that question. Why are they continuing the show? I think at this point, obviously in the beginning they thought that it was going to be like they were going to be loved and adored by the people and no one was going to look into anything or ask any questions. And so they were just going to like, you know, slide into or slide next to Charlie's chair and everything was going to be all good. Well, obviously that is not the circumstance. And now I think the reason they limp on is because it would just be another check on the long list of failures that the organization has had since Charlie's passing and with Eric at the helm of it. And, you know, they're trying to get her out of all these events because people students don't want to go. They don't want to buy tickets. Chapters are closing. They actually now I can tell you are incentivizing chapters not to close by paying them. They're paying chapter leaders at universities, which was not something that was at all done when Charlie was alive and we weren't that people just genuinely wanted to join open a chapter. They didn't need to be incentivized by money to do so. And now if you're a broke college kid and you just have to like not close a chapter, I would have taken the money. I probably would have taken the money. I've been like, yeah, whatever. So that's what's going on apparently in the background allegedly in my opinion or something. Cece writes, I'm really curious how many times this administration has had to yell abort because of this podcast Christ is King Justice for Charlie. All I'm saying is I'm going to get another time. Oh, it's vile cover. I feel it. I feel it coming. I'm going to cover model again. He was another ugly picture. I got more Trump. You guys text me and tell me what you want. I got some from that same time period. Like I also had like a huge thing under my chin that looked like basically how my lips look crusted. I also had that here. It was on my neck. It was like all down my stomach. You know, just hit me up. What do you want? You need another time shoot done of that time that I was looking a little less than hot. I got you. I am unfortunately for you guys. I'm just not insecure enough to care about that. You get sick. Oh well. Looks you're not forever. You know, I'm not going to be hot like an 87. Just get you know, a girl that someone finds people that love you, find meeting in your life. Who cares? You want your health. That's what you want. That's what matters. Looney Tunes write the White House propaganda machine is really going strong with these emails. Oh, yeah. And there will be more to come. I just, I always want to verify these things when we go through great lengths. That's like today's episode. We were like really like, should we run it? Should we show it? And then okay, no, this is really not worth it. And it's like, we can't do a trust me bro on a White House email. And then it was like, okay, but like they are going to have to trust us bro because this is just a system that they have implemented. Obviously at that level, they have to have a way to root out leaks. And it was very obvious in this email what was done to sort of move things around. Jamie writes, I can almost guarantee that Nick Shirley probably thought he was infiltrating this gang because someone just took his money and told him he was. It was just some random dude looking for a come up LOL. Well, actually it's funny because some Brazilians wrote and said you can like the gangs do paid tours so you can pay them to just go on a tour. You know, infiltrators paying them to go on a tour and they will take your money and that money goes through nefarious gang actions. But if you want to go into Vavella as a tourist, you can actually somehow orchestrate that with the gang. I feel like that tracks maybe he didn't know. Maybe they told me he was infiltrating it. I don't know. His kindergarten teacher says he's sweet. So I believe it. I don't question it. There's no beef here. I believe it. Kelly Mariam writes, I kid you not make him a sandwich shows up the same day I get a TPUSA. Riley Gaines send me your money letter there. So lame. I bought all the merch and both books on your highest sales day. Thank you so much Kelly Mariam. That was amazing. Come back of them being like boycott our advertising. Then we had the highest merch day ever. Yeah, I just appreciate that. And obviously, you know, I'm really excited about this book. Friday, we start the book club. My book, first time I'm reading my book in the book club, Make Him a Sandwich, which you guys can buy. I don't know if you got it on Amazon or by going directly to Make Him a Sandwich.com, but you guys can do that. Also, new merch on the website. You know, I'm going to say that easiest way to support us is by buying merch keeps the show independent. So I'd never have to ever join a media news organization ever again and worry about my content. Making people angry because it does people just, you know, not bending the knee apparently makes a lot of people very angry, particularly Zionists. But you know, we're winning. That's what matters. Truth is winning. We will see you guys tomorrow. Bye.