PMS 2.0 1538 - LIVE from the NFL Draft in Pittsburgh, Peter Schrager, Kendrick Perkins, Adam Schefter, Nick Saban

Hello beautiful people and welcome to beautiful. I mean, absolutely glorious Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. The home of tomorrow night's draft in our show is live right now. Football. This magical football is celebrating its next generation of greatness tomorrow night in this beautiful city. And I was very fortunate and lucky to grow up in these hills of Pittsburgh. And I'll tell you the weather that has been forecasted not only since yesterday where we had a full Kennywood day, we will certainly talk about that in a matter of moments today, tomorrow, Friday, into the weekend is superb. The vibes are immaculate. And what's about to happen tomorrow night is Roger Godel is going to list off names that will potentially be launching themselves into a Hall of Fame like conversation or career. Obviously, NFL careers are very difficult. There's going to be a lot of guys who are ass that are drafted tomorrow night in the NFL. Then there's going to be a couple of guys that are going to surprise people. And then there's going to be a story that's going to come from tomorrow night from this parking lot right here. The gold lot outside of Ackershire Stadium. If you're a yinzer, you understand that obviously this parking lot is home to a lot of festivities before Steelers games, before Pirates games, after Pirates games, after Steelers games. I had a friend that was pronounced dead in this parking lot after chugging a bottle of vodka. Then he was taken to a hospital promptly here in Pittsburgh and was resuscitated. I watched a guy ask a lady, very intoxicated, if she was pregnant when she was actually just a fat. So right here, right here in this parking lot right back here. I've seen a guy with a fishing net, okay, that he was taken into PNC Park, catching Natty Light from 75 yards away. Okay, nice. Boom. Problem goes right through net, explodes off ground, hits car. Okay, I've seen this happen. The gold lot is home to great times. The gold lot is home to a lot of chaos. And tomorrow night, the gold lot is home to dreams coming true. I do believe because the weather is so awesome that the city is going to show up. There had been a lot of talk about yinzers maybe saying, that's too much work. Yeah, I was supposed to be talking. Fuck it, two lanes in, two lanes out, 700,000 people. Yeah, right. Can't get down there for a Pirates game. There's 13,000 people in PNC Park. Why would we ever go? A lot of negativity early from a lot of the old head yinzers. Also a lot of positivity, obviously a lot of people want to celebrate ball. They want to celebrate the city of Pittsburgh. But it felt like it was getting a little bit loud because of the inconvenience that it's going to be to get down here. With this weather being the way it's been, with the way it's being covered, the people that are showing up, we got a Wizz and Brett Michaels concert coming on Friday night. Tomorrow night, we got everything pop. It's going to be a special weekend here in Pittsburgh. We're very thankful to be here. It's not just me. Obviously the boys are here as well. The toxic table at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt. You guys got a chance to experience a little Pittsburgh heaven yesterday. And I don't know which one of you wants to start. Conner, you're the bigger hater. So I think you could maybe mention what happened yesterday. But in Pittsburgh, every school, like we had five elementary schools, I think, right? Is that how many we had? That's one half of the hammer. Dad, Cowboys, AP Town. We had five elementary schools. I think there's now there's two junior highs in a high school. Each school has like a Kennywood picnic day where everybody goes to Kennywood. They charge it for it. Okay. So you certainly had to pay for it. There was a couple of times where maybe early, the Mac, if he's decided not to pay, it's literally ghost time. Okay. Everybody in Plum picks up and goes to Kennywood and every town has one of those. Yesterday, the program had our own Kennywood picnic day. And I want to let the people at Kennywood know Lindsey, Ricky. Yeah, Ricky. Okay, Ricky, a GM in there. Kenny to kangaroo, brand new. By the way, doesn't look like a puppet that has been maybe, you know, here. It's true. Okay. Kennywood swinging a hot bat. Geno to maintenance crew. Geno to maintenance crew. I can't thank you boys enough. Tony, the Paul of Tannery. I mean, the entire crew took care of us yesterday. We had our, we had Kennywood to ourselves. Not normally open during the weekdays at this stage of the spring because you don't know what the weather is. So opening it all up would be crazy even though the weather is awesome. Got chance to experience Kennywood yesterday. You've said a lot of things, Con man. Yeah. I would just like to kind of get your thoughts on what Kennywood was and Pittsburgh being a whole site for this draft with perfect weather. Yeah. Pittsburgh's been amazing. Walked around a little bit yesterday in the city after Kennywood and it is just beautiful. It's clean. It looks fantastic. Saw Mr. Rogers little neighborhood thing. Also very cool. Kennywood as a whole. I mean, look. I did say a lot of things. I thought the woopty woos were not going to be woopty woos. I thought the roller coasters themselves were going to be cropped in shite and made out of wood. They were made out of wood, but it was still solid. I'm just going to say that now. Six flags I've always held in high regard. I'm going to put Kennywood right up there with it. I mean, not to mention the racer and the Phantom's Revenge, the fanter. They had some coasters that delivered. Phantom were going what? 95, 200 miles an hour. Yeah. Coming around there. The steel curtain, I think had nine or eight or 10 woopty woos, which was very, very good. I was scared going up there for a little bit. And typically I, you know, I don't love roller coasters. Don't hate roller coasters. Yeah. In this moment, I was very nervous. You're going up this, I don't know, 150, 200 foot kind of climb. 229 feet. 229. Yeah. And they're playing. Oh, mama. I'm in fear for the life, for my life. And I was like, there was a lot of this that I wasn't completely ready. Actually, unfortunately, yeah, the, but on the ride itself. I think D-but my anxiety might got to D-but a bit. I actually passed out here on the steel curtain. I was not ready for it. My entire body just kind of gave out. My hair was going everywhere. This is actually our second run, the first run. I did your loss. My glasses. So I took them off for run two. I'm glad I did. Cause as soon as I go out, I would have completely lost my shades. I wouldn't be able to see anything. Oh my God. You actually went out right there. See you guys later. Wake them up teacher. I don't. Nope. Still out. Oh my God. This is my first time seeing it. Oh my God. You know, are you all right? I'm okay. I'm okay. People are trying to end up there. Still out. Still out. Oh my God. Still out. This is my first time seeing it. Yeah. And we came back. We came back. Still out. So boom. Yeah. Back to life. So look to say Kenny would. I'm happy you're out. I'm good. To say that it delivered would be an understatement. It did. There's a few things we should address though. One, I think it motivated a lot of us to make sure we fit in the coasters. You don't have to do that. All right. Myself. Nine year NFL vet. The Butler is here. Debut was right next to Conner there as Conner left, I guess, civilization as he was on a steel curtain. Nine whoop-de-woos, which is the most in North America, highest whoop-de-woo in North America as well as steel curtain. And I believe Phantoms Revenge is voted the number one coaster in America or something like that. It gets up to, like, they say 85, 86 miles an hour, but the maintenance guy say, they got that dialed in pretty good, right? We'd say that's probably close to 90. No pull. That's all gravity. The steel phantoms revenge is just gravity. And it gets you to, like, 90 miles an hour is what they were saying. It doesn't have any whoop-de-woos, but it's just speed and twisty whoos. And I'll tell you, they brought their fact. I talked a lot of shit for Kennywood on this show. And then night before Kennywood Day for us, which came together late, shout out to Nick, Steve Littleman, by the way, kid from Plumbwork, that Kennywood our entire lives was the connection for this entire thing. Everybody that works at Kennywood's been there for 25, 30 years. New ownership, same workers. Okay. And they love that place. Night before we have our Kennywood picnic day, because Debut was like, hey, I'm telling the truth when we get on air about this Kennywood. I'm doing journalism. I actually thought to myself, like, maybe Kennywood, last of its kind, this particular coaster, it's called a fly coaster. It's the last one operating in the United States of America. There's like three different coasters that are over a hundred years old there. I mean, they all still work, but I was very worried that it was going to suck. Okay. I was like, man, I haven't been there in 20 years. I mean, who knows what this thing actually is. Maybe Mandela effect, about how nice it was, especially because I was a kid, the amount of things that happened in there. We walked by the old mill. So many moments in my life happened at Kennywood. It was a big day. So I started to get a little bit worried that maybe it was going to get crucified. Nope. Now granted, it was just us there. That helps for sure. It does help. Much better. But it delivered. Much better. Had some yinzers respond to a couple respond to my picture of the old mill. And they go, let me guess, you're getting a VIP treatment. Kennywood. Yeah. Very relatable. It's like, I was like, let you know, not relatable at all. All of these things in two and a half hours, even stopped by the potato patch. Well, we had the greatest. Hold on. It's called the potato patch. It would take that fucking time. It's called the patch. No, it is not the patch. It's a nicotine thing. There was signage for both. Yeah, but they covered the potato patch. Ricky made a mistake. He's going to fix it. He is going to rectify. He knows that he's going to, he's going to fix that. But I would say I was worried going in. And then once I felt that jackrabbit, I was like, yeah, feels like the boys are throwing their fastball today, you know, because the maintenance crew matters. And I think what I remembered is 100 year old coasters, wooden coasters. So if you zoom in on the wood, there's a chance it looks shitty. Sure. Old moldy. It's old wood. Yeah, very old. Pittsburgh is a blue collar union labor city. The amount of pride that the maintenance people have in the thunderbolt, in the jackrabbit, in the fucking kangaroo, in the racer, in the phantom's revenge, in the steel curtain, it was like, we got a chance to talk to all the maintenance people because they had to open their rides for us. Yeah, sure. Thought they were going to hit our guts. We weren't the first people to ever have this happen to. We were told that, which was good because I did feel terrible that these guys had to come in on their off day and open these things. But the amount of pride they all had in all their rides. And then once we get on there, I'm like, Kennywood does have its fastball. I was very excited about that. I was worried you were going to have to kill it. I didn't remember exactly what it was. The expectations were very, very low coming in. You guys, you Pittsburgh guys have defended it. I'm from Florida, so that's where Disney World is. So that's where I got to compare it to. And they say comparisons are thief of joy, but comparing these things, apples to apples, I mean, it's right here. It's right here. And we had the phantom's revenge, steel curtain. Now you guys did, it's in pros and cons of having a part in yourself because I don't know if the human body is built to just go from phantom's revenge twice, steel curtain, jackrabbit, back to back to back to back. But it was unbelievable. And then the top of the off, finish it off with the, what is it, the patch now, right? That's what we call it. The patch. Okay, the patch. That was, that was fries, pulled pork. They had the lorries over there for the whole magic. It was top notch A1. A1. Pittsburgh's been delivering, we will say, and they'll do it for the draft. Now let's go to a man who's a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner, AJ Hawker is here. Hawker, good to see you. Hawker. Discipline is the reason why you've been so good at everything. Connor was about to mention it there. The bone couldn't fit on two of the coasters. So I did hear about that. Is that really true? Are we just doing a thing where we mess with the bone? It was not good. Did he get into hate? Let me try to get this thing over my lap. Oh, I cannot do it. It's like a movie. On the steel curtain, there was six workers trying to shove him in the seat. Look, I was trying to get out of his way. You know that's true. This is actual. We're telling the truth. I didn't want to get into this this early. Is there weight limits or is there size limits? Is me next to the ramp? Is me next to the front in the first? What if you rode by himself? Could he just take a cart? No, because there's no parts. There's dividers. And we're trying to put more weight. This was the racer right here. So it was the blue ride versus the red ride. Oh, yeah. Kings Island has a racer too. Yeah, that's what he is. He said he was motivated though. He said this actually genuinely now gives me a goal. This the kickstart he needed. Two roller coasters. What did he do? Did he stay in there and wave at you guys as you went by? Yeah, it was more uncomfortable than anything. He had his hands in his face because he was crying after he couldn't ride. I didn't know it was that serious. It started off funny. It got sad. It got real sad. Because no one thought of it. Hey, DeBone. DeBone. I'll stay with you. It's okay. Well, they have a sign at the beginning that says like, oh, well, Gumpy wasn't riding a lot of these rides because he took two drinks. He's awarded only. It wasn't enough. Bailey, Bailey on the ride that has the most whoop-de-woos in the United States of America as it's going. He looks over at Evan Fox and goes, I fucking hate roller coasters. He goes through it. He gets up and gets off of it. There was a lot of observers and DeBone. I don't think he wanted to be one, but the coasters kind of said not today to him. And I'll tell you what, you saw what happened to Connor. Oh, yeah. If that would happen to DeBone, we're having a memorial right now. Because he would have been falling out of that thing. There's nowhere close to getting that. All right. Let's move off to Kennywood. Thank you, Kennywood. Thank you, Kennywood. Bring Italian Dave back, Kennywood. The fact that Italian Dave has been lost at Kennywood is pretty crazy. Spicuzzi was walking us around. Napolitano is one of the head maintenance guys. DeGiulio was there. Morodo was there. Gino was there. I mean, what I say, what? Every day at Kennywood's Italian day. We don't need our own day there. There's a guy three times the size of bone and his name was Tony, something that ends in I or O. And the guy couldn't fit on the rise. He said, that's it. We're pulling Italian Dave. We ain't doing Italian Dave at Kennywood anymore if I can't fit in that. All right. Let's move to the draft, shall we? Thank you, Pittsburgh. The Penns, thank you so much for the hospitality at the Playoff game on Monday night. I don't know if they'll be back in that building. Yeah, it's probably us. She wrote there. I'll tell you what, did we know the Flyers were as big, strong and as talented as they? They're bigger, faster, stronger and more talented than us. That's ever good. There's a guy named 74 on the Flyers. He's rushing dinner. Oh, and Tippett. Stu is all goalie. Tippett, this guy, 74. He's as orange as the fucking Jersey. He's everywhere. This guy is everywhere and he's massive. Okay. And what was the other guy, Sanheim? Hey, you're lucky that glass was there, Sanheim. I bet. You're lucky that glass was there, Sanheim. I almost, I almost climbed it, but I didn't want the LA Kings thing to happen. Yeah. With my neck brace. I was actually told just moments before, or I guess a day before the LA Kings glass shattered into the bench. I was told many times, stop banging on a glass because it was hard not to just make some noise. It's the best way to make noise. The players can touch it. Yeah. I think the Flyers did see this tweet and they have heard what we said. There was a lot of waving after the game to me. Hey, hey, see a bum. They cooked us. They're a good team. You got backup goalie too. How many times is the backup goalie going to come in and pitch a shutout? Guy was standing on his head. On his head. I'm seeing what goals are going in for the Boston Bruins last night against Buffalo. We couldn't buy one of those things. What happens when you're an original six team? Okay. The hockey gods look fondly upon you. All right. Let's get away from this series because the Flyers are going to win it. It feels like, so I don't want to talk about it ever again. Hockey had a hell of a year. Good job. Hockey. Basketball's heating up. Hockey had a hell of a year. Was it my first round? Two. Yeah. And we're going back to Philly and I'm going to tell you, I had eyes on the guys. They're bigger, stronger, faster and more talented than us. It's tough to compete with that. It's a long series. Not really. It could be quick. It's a long series. I still got faith in Sid. I love Sid. Geno was everywhere. Yeah. Geno, I love you. Tanger was after. We got a couple of guys on the ice that I don't love. A couple of guys that I could hear. This guy stinks. But on the other side to Flyers, everybody was good. So they're winning it all then. Flyers going to win the cup. It feels like. No. We're going to talk it over there. There's Penguin Legend. There's a chance that they could do that. It was fun. We appreciate it. Great to see everybody. Let's move to the topic of discussion and why we were so fortunate to be here in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania on maybe the nicest weather I've ever seen in Pittsburgh, especially in April. Joining us now is the man who released his most recent mock draft. This, some guy, you, some guy attacked me for saying that you're the most accurate mock drafter. He has a website. I forget his name. I don't know if anybody's visited a website, but he told me it was documented. He might have outperformed you. He said, okay. No, I don't know if anybody saw it. He did. It wasn't met. It was somebody with a website. I got him. I got better score than him or whatever because there is now a scoring process for these mock drafts. There is an actual score accountability that we're doing. Shrager, every time we followed along with you, we feel most informed. We appreciate you so much for joining us. It's been a straight. Come on out. Shrager in tone digs will be live from the football IQ draft IQ trailer that I just saw. It's 45 degrees in there right now. Your conditioning is working boys. Now Shrager, you released your most recent mock draft. Let's talk about the storylines. I know a lot of things had to change after your first one. What did you kind of put into this one that you think is maybe most set, most real? And then maybe what are you still questioning? The last 72 hours I've been on the phones with just about every NFL team and have someone in at least every building and I'm trying to piece this thing together. And remember, it's very hard to do it because if one team does something in the third overall pick that you don't expect, it all trickle down effect. It makes it very difficult to be accurate. I will say this, this draft, three things to keep in mind. One, positional value does not matter this year. There are not the blue chip players at our traditional positions of offensive tackle, wide receiver quarterback and at defensive end that they're usually are. So when you look at a Caleb Downs, a sunny styles of Jeremiah Love, three positions that you don't typically see go in the top 10. Those guys will go in the top 10. That's one part that I would say that is worth noting. The other part that I think is really significant here, Pat, is that at number three, the Arizona Cardinals are sitting there and there are teams that have been calling and there are teams that have been listening and there is an opportunity to move up to three. And if they don't trade out, we might see a running back go as high as third overall. Jeremiah Love, the running back and another game could go third overall to the Arizona Cardinals. So you're saying there might be some moves at three. That would be for a quarterback or your same positional value doesn't matter. Somebody can get to three for something. That would be for whoever the Jets don't take. Okay, so let's talk about, oh, like R Valry's, but that's three instead of David Bailey. Okay, so I know that Jimmy Johnson create the trade points book. Yes, the trade value book, yes. Does this year's mean the same as other years in the past with the way everybody's talking about these particular drafts? Great question. No, because also the other piece of this draft is one to 20. We have 21st round picks in this draft and I'm not knocking the kids who are going to go from 21 to 32. But traditionally, the players that you're seeing on this list from 21 to 32 for the most part might not be considered first round players. They could be considered second round players. This draft is a little different in that you've got your few blue chip players up top. You've got your next year that are first round guys, but it kind of falls off a cliff after 20. So the trade value of a first round pick at 28 or 29 is a lot less than it might have been in previous years in this year's draft. The tackles are going to go, the wide receivers are going to go, but there's not your group of corners. There's not your group of defensive tackles and there's not your group of quarterbacks that typically are. Okay, last question for me before town will definitely have some in the boys will. From my understanding, from my source says around the league, everybody's trying to get back. Is that accurate? Not everybody. Not everybody. But there's a lot of people trying to move back. I think there is a lot of value in trying to just collect as many picks as possible in this draft once that first wave of talent goes. I want to tell you one corner Mansour Delain is expected to go in the first round. That's the only one that's guaranteed to go. I'll tell you one corner. That's shocking. There's other guys who can go. Four and a half. But like this is the only surefire one that is going to go and it's Mansour Delain. And that is usually a position where we see six, seven, eight maybe go. And then after the wide receivers, you've got the big three. And then there's a bit of a question on Cooper. There's a bit of a question on concept. See, I'm a bit of a question on Denzel Boston. You don't have your typical, oh, these are six first round guys are definitely going in the top 15 makes it a very interesting draft. Okay, Shakes, when I look at it, the first thing that popped out to me, Maui Noah from Miami has been the favorite to go first offensive alignment off the board for a while now. You do not have him go the first off the board. Is that because the Browns need a left tackle for Noah's Play-D-Left-Tackle or do you think, are you hearing that for Noah going to be the first offensive alignment off the board. It'll be one of those two guys. guys and I would keep an eye on Caden Proctor as a late rising prospect the six foot seven mountain of a man out of Alabama, I have him the lions trading up to 13 to get him Maui Noah Fanot is a conversation everyone's having in the league right now Fanot where the captain see on his chest at Utah can play right Cambly left tackle can also play inside We know that Maui Noah had the bigger games. He's a right tackle I just saw the Phenos like he did have the shortest arms I believe as an as an offensive lineman at the Combine but he said he doesn't give a shit like put him wherever you guys think I'm gonna be the greatest I will play that position took snaps at center at the combine said I'll do whatever just get me there I'll play all five positions culture guy and everyone writes about him. I'm thinking he doesn't have an Instagram. Is that a clear? That's a great question. I wouldn't imagine there's a very vibrant I don't think he's doing tic-tac dances I mean if you started all five positions or played at all five positions and willing to play at all five positions He said I'll play whatever and he's got short arms too, so maybe can't even That's that guy we want on team D but as a question for you guys on the team and that box draft for the Giants I mean, I'm sure every Giants fan probably hit you up in relation with Reese and then Tyson, you know five and ten What are you hearing about Tyson post product? I only saw a few clips but he looks phenomenal ways moving as far as I think Dr. Child came on and say a lot of teams won't even have a red mark next to him What's your thoughts on Jordan Tyson being you have him obviously second after take wherever she was coming off the board What's your thoughts what you're hearing on him? He's the most fascinating prospect in this draft and John Harbaugh's the most fascinating person in this draft The Giants have a new coach who is making estimated hundred million dollars in their building right now and their their decision-making Process will now be really funneled through Harbaugh's vision the five and the ten They like Jordan Tyson a lot of people in the league like Jordan Tyson is five too rich to take a receiver who Pat We've talked about it miss all those games for three different injuries But his lights out and if healthy is viewed as the number one prospect I believe he could go as early as Five to the Giants. I think he can go Seven to the commanders eight to the Saints or nine to the Chiefs in this mock draft I have the Giants just sitting pretty holding the line and getting the guy at ten I noted it I broke the news that he went to dinner with Joe Shane last Thursday night. They went to a place called Uchi in Arizona I don't know A lot of places in Arizona Uchi is the spot. I've been to a Twin Peaks in Arizona was lovely Are they still serving ice cold beer they got ice cold candy invitation There's a lot of love for Tyson in that Giants building I'm not sure he is gonna go at five especially if Arville Reese is on the board Let's talk about Harbaugh having two top ten picks So Hembo sent over some stats here about his highest drafted players under John John her six Ronnie Stanley 14 16 17 18 Obviously whenever you think about Harbaugh trying to build a new culture Isn't that a big deal here now with his draft picks and what he does with five and ten isn't sending a massive message His brother draft to Joe Alt first draft pick remember there was a lot of conversation on who's gonna take And he said we're taking offense alignment. Yeah, we are just gonna let everybody know that we're taking an offense alignment Harbaugh gonna do that with the Giants as well. I don't see wide receiver five for Harbaugh That seems out of character, right? It does and then yet you look at what this what this team is built at Yeah, neighbors coming off the injury don't have Wandao Robinson anymore Darius slayton's the number two Are you gonna compete with the Cowboys the Eagles and and the commanders with what you have on offense? Or do you go and get the guy if he's the number one wide receiver to value position? I I would add all those players that Harbaugh got with the exception of flacco who was the 18th overall pick and went to Delaware We're talking Alabama Notre Dame. You're talking about a big program guys who've produced so all these Ohio State guys whether it be Caleb downs sunny styles Arville Reese carnalty like Feels like a horrible there is a body of work that they have done in big spots from big programs Where when you're looking at a Jordan Tyson and say okay? Well Arizona State he did play well in big games Maybe that's not the feel at five overall. Yeah, and for Jordan Tyson. Dr. David Chow kind of talked me out of the hole I'm never trusting that guy in a 17 game season him saying his hamstrings back hamstrings get healthy The shoulder or what was it? He said he plays? Yeah, all about a place football like that's gonna happen Hopefully doesn't happen in the NFL again or whatever you know for a way Lance and then knee ligament stuff is knee hit like the the highlight hit the Internet again this week of his hit in Colorado when he did we all would have torn everything on it was it was a submarine safety right to his knee just Yeah, it was it was tough Football is a low tackle straight. Okay, but you know, it's 32 teams So it may be 22 that say hey no issues, but 10 say no way I'm taking them because 100% in the college the likely if you get in injured in college It'd been healthy on the NFL level to some guys Just take them all the other one that's interesting is Jermad McCoy at a Tennessee who you're gonna hear a lot about He had the best film at anybody in the 2024 season January of 25 had a knee injury missed the entire college football season Everyone said he'll be back. He'll be fine Combine, okay. I'm not doing much fine pro day runs a 40 looks good drills They said not a hundred percent and you're hearing back from teams that like Whereas Tyson is well on his way like McCoy still might need some time and they might need to do some more work So you start so I got them all the way down to 30 It's a guy who might be the best corner in this draft And if you look at the 24 film might be the best corner in the past two drafts But that might be a value pick for the Dolphins over there at 30 if teams are just scared to say okay He might not be a contributor right away or we're only gonna get this many years out of them Outstanding kid outstanding talent, but I haven't gone 30 in the second corner off the board Remember all it takes is one person to like a player. Yep owner GM owners wife owners kid Uh Owners husband. I mean Carly's husband might be really intrigued but draft night can change 100% owners can literally say we like this guy, right? No doubt. No, we kind of like the other no now we do I think we like this guy especially in this where it seems like it's a lot of yeah Well a lot of one of these like 31 flavors is what I was told this draft is like Baskin Robbins like you like this guy You got this guy pick one of them like their recent Bailey For the jets is a fascinating debate and to their credit the jets are lock and key right now There's no leaks coming from their building and what about the jets canceling his top 30 Do you get any feeling from they canceled David Bailey's top 30 visit? Is that a good thing for them? Go Bailey go the jets are having going number two I've had him going there for a month and and Pat we talked about it. Everyone was on Reese I was on Bailey and then everyone went back on Reese. I've stayed on Bailey Very unorthodox that they canceled a top 30 visit. Hey, that's jets football, but The the the explanation you will get on that is we met with him extensively at the combine We met with him extensively at the pro day. We've done face times with him. Why are we wasting his time? We know the kid he went from Stanford to Texas Tech is as clean as a prospect off the field as you could imagine He's a wonderful young man had 14 and a half sacks. What are we getting from him touring our facility? That said our velrice went on the thing and did the same stuff and toward the facility So you take what you want from it. I've got him going Bailey, but like you just said I have been wrong before and things can also change from now until the draft on Thursday Did you did you have anything like that happening you leading up to the draft because you know you kind of in the same So these guys top five pick you know Packers were kind of in on you I did not I met with them the combine everything but I took those I think I did five or six visits around and the Packers didn't bring me in they didn't cancel a visit I didn't have something scheduled and cancel. They just had no communication So I really had no clue until they call me 30 seconds. Is that right? My name came on the team crazy Where'd you think you were gonna go? I was hoping to go to Green Bay because it was close It's the Packers, you know everyone I feel like at least in the Midwest grew up a Packers fan I was hoping to go there, but I don't honestly I was so young and naive and stupid. I didn't care Did anybody take into the old mill though a little bit more than everybody else? You know talking about a Kenny would anybody really show you love maybe a little over the pants Over the pants maybe but Mike Nolan was actually out in San Francisco. He was the head coach Yeah, he was awesome. He was he was a great deal. I think I said on this on the show before He's he old school wrote me a handwritten note and sent me ten bucks back because he didn't have any cash When he was trying to tip the guy at the restaurant He took me to in San Fran. So he's all I'm sorry. I got any money I gave him a 10 and then to my my scrubby little college house I got old school mail and it was that's a coach Mike Nolan with a $10 bill and saying thank you I That's amazing AJ top five pick is crazy to think about Draft week was obviously huge for you and I always asked you the corny sports media question. We're like How does it feel to be this close? Your life that you got to experience all those years ago draft week is special. It's a lot of dream I mean I was picked to 22 I cried, you know like obviously I couldn't imagine a five and nowadays all the kids are rich though So I guess it kind of takes away for I don't know. I still think it's a huge. It's still huge It's definitely still a huge deal, but I mean I don't know I think there's something to there's something about being young and naive to the process and not really sure what the whole future holds But what I always struggle with is when people say like oh, I'm certified. I made it now mama like no I'm like no this is just the start like I agree. It was a very it's an emotional situation And it's a dream come true, but I was like, okay now I have a chance like now it's time to go to work You didn't you know if you're drafted you're not you have not arrived You have you got a chance to go live your dream now, and that's where they're trying to draft by the way Yes, that is all we're trying to draft that guy Can I share a story about Pat McAfee's draft day? I don't know if I've shared on the show And I think I told you in person once Tom Talesco is a friend of mine He's with he was with the Chargers and the Raiders He worked for the Indianapolis Colts and he was a scout now Pat Tell me the actual bowl game it was you guys played North Carolina My Mickey car turbo was the my Mickey car terrible and Tom Talesco who was a scout for the Indianapolis Colts Said before the game there was a guy hooting 60-yard field goals blasting punts and he said who is this guy? That is the number one punter slash kicker I've ever seen in like a pregame workout You were there for an hour beforehand and Talesco is like this guy is amazing We have to get this guy goes back to the Colts organization and they're putting the boards together And he's like that's my pick Maca Fietta West Virginia. That's my pick They also thought they had a chance that they could also get this guy who was a receiver out of Akron Who was a Kent State? I'm sorry a nice player who can do a couple things and was returning kicks But was really a quarterback and he was a quarterback that they had their eyes on their plan all along Was to draft both Pat McAfee and Julian Edelman. Oh, that would be great comes up onto the clock And it was a debate in the war room Do we take the punter kicker or the quarterback that we want to convert to wide receivers the punter kicker won the argument? By the Indianapolis Colts and Edelman goes undrafted in the news science the Patriots as an undrafted free So even more so I was supposed to go to Kent State. Is that right? Yeah? Yeah? So I was committed to Kent State. So I would have been teammates with Julian at that thing. Yeah I know broke ended up being both one helmet guys though. Yeah the whole time Wire to wire and both media superstars. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep. I'd say that's case euphoria Is kind of the feeling that we both got you know in like eighth or right AJ that is you're right Yeah, I got chances. I am a huge fan of Julian Edelman and Peyton of Julian Edelman would have been outrageous He should have gone off the table when he was Young young awesome in the fourth, I think the ground out of why was he your comparison he played in a slot No, he didn't know the reason Austin was I was led up across Austin today move Reggie in there to brought me up Who was the Ohio State got Gonzalez He was the answer. He was politician. Politician now, right? He had a hell of a t- Man, Anthony, Julian Edmond, Austin, Colleen, Reggie Wayne. Wow. That would have been... Oh, you had Garcon. And Dallas Corp. Yeah, yeah. Oh my God, we would have scored a th- They would have scored. I would have been on a different team. Hopefully, actually, I probably would have been flipping- Had you heard that story before? No, I did not. They traded with the Eagles. I do believe to get up to pick 222 to make the pick. So I had no idea, I had no contact with the Eagles. So what I got to call is watching him at my house. Because I thought I was going to Cowboys. I was told before draft by Joe DiCamillo, Special Teams, say, hey, you're going to be a Cowboy. You're going to be kicking for us down here. I was like, sick. I'm going to be a fucking Dallas Cowboy. We partied hard. I mean, we had a great weekend. We had a lot of fun. Then when it came Sunday to get drafted or whatever, we were like, all right, let's settle in. They draft another guy, kid out of David, out of USC. Oh, the lifter. Yeah, because he did, Jerry loved him, I guess, because he did 225, like 20 sometimes, 28 times or something. So Joe DiCamillo actually told me like, hey, man, I'm so sorry that happened. And I'm like, well, no other team really. There's your example with the owner, by the way. Yeah, no, no, exactly. Special Teams coach only has so much of a voice. No other team was really that interested there. So it was like, Still on the table for you. I don't know if I'm going. I think this might be back to school days. And then, yeah, I get to call from Bill Polian. That was so cool. Hey, we think you can figure out punning is what he said. I'm like, yeah, man, absolutely. Of course. Can't wait to do that. Plum High School's football field. Then next day with Tim McAfee, I'm like, hey, we got to figure out. Is that right? You ever hold before? Yeah, absolutely. Hell, I'll hold all the time. I kicked four years there. I never held in my life. But yeah, I lied to my ass off. Very lucky to get in there. They wish they would have taken Julian Edderman. And I think that would have been a smart decision long-term. And it would have been nice to be teammates with Jules. But on that note, lucky, luckiest phone call I ever got. And I tried to fuck it up there too, getting arrested. I tried my best. I was nowhere near good enough at kicking balls when I got arrested to get arrested. And I knew that sitting in that jail cell. This one's over, boys. You know, one of those moments. Cause you know, once Tom Thalesco looked into West Virginia, I had a couple of underages. Yeah, there was a couple of red flags, we'll say. Hey, it was a Tuesday, it looks like. Why? Teammates' birthday. Teammates' birthday. I had to be there for the teammate. Okay, this next one. Wednesday night. Penny pitchers, I think. Yeah, well. Penny pitchers. They're in a more good town, I don't know. But my entire process was very nerve-wracking and very scary. That's why like, whenever people get drafted in the first round, like super pumped for them. But I feel like AJ's draft experience is vastly different than mine. I thought I was going back to school, maybe going back to soccer for a little bit. So getting drafted was like a huge anxiety relief, I would say. But to AJ's point, I didn't make the team then, you know? Like I'm not on the team at that point. They had four punters on the team. Did they really? Yeah, I think so, yeah. And the Special Teams coordinator told me directly to my face that he did not want me. He wanted the other guy. Which was Timmy The Mass Day. Yeah, Tim Mass Day. He still played the living packers, yeah. Yeah, he was in training camp with us though. I had to compete with him. He was a part of helping teach me how to punt like a month before training camp. And then he's in there and we're competing with each other. And it's like, I'm so sorry, Tim. I'm so sorry. And I was not good. I should not have made the team, but Bill Pulley had my back and I'm very grateful for that. Very thankful for that. But the draft is a special time. And Shregs, we're very thankful that you're joining us. Dude, I can't wait. I predicted four trades in my mock draft. I've got Detroit coming up. I've got the Cowboys coming up. It's all fun. Enjoy it. Do what you want with it. Again, it's a guide. I do ask you though at home, choose your entertainment value wisely. Put the Twitter away. Watch us on all the channels. Watch the draft spectacular. We're gonna have an absolute blast tomorrow. Yeah, you're right. I do like you taking your high horse stance. Can I explain the high horse? Hold on though. It's more against reporters than- No, I wanna let you know though. You've done this for the last few years. Okay, to us, you've actually told me like, I don't like when people tip picks. And I go, well, we definitely tip picks. Because that was kind of where the draft spectacular started. We were all wearing, I was in a Canadian tuxedo. Aaron joined us. And we were on the internet. So any information that the internet had, we were certainly, but we were like seven picks ahead of the NFL. And we started gaining some steam with this draft spectacular. People actually like started watching our shit. So people started getting real mad. You know, these people down here still don't love us. Those people over there, the guy that sits on that stage up there. So then we started getting like messages like, hey, please don't be tipping picks. And then you gave me a full speech about it. And you're like, hey, this is not impressive. There's no value. You're not winning. Okay, let me explain. You're not winning a Pulitzer prize for tipping picks. If you have a pick on Thursday morning and you're like, I know the Jets are taking David Bailey, or I know everyone, God bless you as a reporter, go. The NFL gets the picks before you see them on TV. You have to submit them. All 32 teams get the pick. Every coach, every GM, every... So if you have one source in any building at the league office, an agent, everyone gets it 90 seconds before the pick is announced. All it takes is to just be told, oh, they're taking this guy, and you're just spoiling it. So if you have the pick day earlier or you're a reporter and you want to break it, great. But after the pick is submitted and the pick is submitted and in, there's no valor. There's no awesome honor. Sorry, Shraig, shouldn't you be talking to these coaches and people that are snitching, letting these reporters know? So, Gidell should be, I think... They're trying to crack down. It's hard. There's 32 rooms with 9,000 people. There's too many people. Think about all the people in all those... Hey, listen, Mike Greenberg will know, Rich Eisenhower, everyone knows, it goes through, it's a production. So I'm not trying to say, like, hey, protecting the shield, I don't give a crap about the ratings. I'm saying there's no... And then the reaction when you just see it on TV and Gidell says the name and didn't expect it to be happening, that surprise is cool. That's one of the lawyers... Do you see Mad Mel last year, whenever Golden... How good was that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That still exists. We'll have that. And to be completely clear, I do think Commissioner Gidell loves the draft. Oh, yeah. Like, he is very, very, very big fan of the draft. Future of the NFL, future generations. This is the baton passing of the NFL almost and it's become a spectacle. I think he's very proud of what it's become. And I do think they like him being the one. Oh, yeah. He's gotten that message a lot and clear. Okay, now we don't get same emails that Rich Eisen and Greeny get. I don't know. No, it's not emails. It's not emails. The production of it all, like right before the pick is up, they have to know because they have to have the B-roll ready and all the stuff and they have to get it going and they do. So you're... Yeah, Foxy made the B-roll. Your actual reaction though, finding out who it is is great though. Yeah, I enjoy who it is. It's better that you don't know. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is the man who's gonna be picking at the end of the NFL draft tomorrow. Maybe, maybe he trades up the two. He could. Maybe trades up the one. I don't know if they have the capital to do that, but maybe. Ladies and gentlemen, the general manager of the Buffalo Beans. Brandon B. Hey, Bino. Bino, how you doing, pal? I'm good. Good to see you guys. Everybody good? Yeah, we're fantastic. How are you obviously on this draft Eve? You have a late pick, but on that note, are we already locked in at this point? Where do teams kind of sit? Whenever we're the day before the NFL draft. Are you reading Shrager's mock and going, ah, that changes, like legitimately, how do you guys operate this close to when the draft starts? Yeah, after we see Peter's mock, we kind of rally back up as a group and see like where he ranks, how we rank him. And so we have a conversation. We don't necessarily take Peter's guy, but we at least want to talk about it before we dismiss it. Well, congratulations. You're taking Peter Woods out of class. There you go. Let's go. All right. Congrats. We'll go ahead and get him on an airplane, get him up the bump. Okay, so what have you guys been doing? Obviously that late in the draft, so many things can happen. And obviously trades take place on draft night and surprise picks happen. Are you just running through all the different situations? How do you, can you take me through late end of a first round and kind of strategy at this point? Yeah, I mean, you kind of just use what you know, use what you hear. Obviously you study mocks, not like the actual order, but you know out of enough mocks that Fernando Mendoza is going to be gone, Reese is going to be gone, you name them. You kind of just write down, all right, I'm just making up a number. These 12 guys are 100% barren, like I said, a gas mask or something. I don't even know if you might care about that, but barring something like that happening, these guys are going to be gone before we pick. So after that, you're just then kind of looking at names, you're looking at positions, position value, and then you look around you. Like, what do you think the teams, you know, three, four, five in front of you? What are they going to do? You know, do you want to move up with one of them? Where we have draft capital, we don't have a two, we traded, we did a two, five swap for DJ Moore. So it's not like we're loaded with a lot of ammo to kind of jump way up the, you know, up the line. You should think about that. That'd be cool for us. Yeah, you might as well. Yeah. Just use your 27 picks. Everyone said that draft's going to stink. Yeah. Yeah, I think it should, maybe the whole fleet of 20, 27 picks to move right up to two to three, so we can get a little electricity. You're going to start this entire thing. D-Bud has a question for you, being old. Yeah, being, I want to ask you about players with injuries. Now, I'm not specific players in this draft, but how do you balance, I guess, the talent of certain players at certain positions and then the injuries? Like, if it's the same injury year after year, if it's just random injuries over three years, how do you balance that as a front office? Yeah, great question. You know, we do meet with our docs and our medical team, and you know, you have their talent where they're out on the board, but if it's a longevity issue, all right, is this a one-contract guy? Do I think he can even, is this something I'm concerned that guy can even play four to five years on? And then you kind of make it, am I taking them all the way off the board, or am I moving them down, saying, hey, you know what, I wouldn't, I had a first round grade on him as his talent, but I'm very concerned if he can make it four or five years, but maybe I say, you know what, a fourth round pick, he may not make it four or five years either, so you're just kind of measuring risk, the risk of the talent of the player, first the risk of what the medical concerns are. You look at past history as well, what players have come out in the draft at this position with something similar, how did they fare, or did it go well, did it not? So you're just, you're trying to put as much info as you can and put them in the spot that you're most comfortable taking. Tyson is obviously who we're referring to here, because he's potential top. Oh McCoy, I mean, it happens every year. Corner, I guess, yeah, also there, McCoy, but Jordan Tyson is the big convo because he's potentially top 10 pick. Now, on that note, I haven't asked you this, you know, because I don't want you to be put in a spot, but I'm definitely gonna do it now that people are watching him or the day before the draft. How do you feel about this draft class? What do you think is the read on this draft class here as a whole? You don't have to talk about just first round, you can do the entire, what do you think about, because there's been a lot of shade during this draft class, I think, strictly because there isn't a bunch of quarterbacks. What are your thoughts on this particular draft class? Yeah, I mean, I think it's not as top heavy. You were alluding to it, like at the top, whether it's quarterback, edge, tackles, things like that. I don't think there's just as many surefire, you know, top 10, top 15 guys, but there's still really good players. There's depth at various positions and you're just trying to see, you know, as you look what positions have depth, what do not? Because if they don't have depth and you feel like that's a need, you're like, man, we better find a way to get that guy early or we're gonna leave the draft, you know, without filling that position. But I think there's guys, Pat, that we can, you know, maybe they're not a starter, you know, for us, but a guy that can fill a depth role. I think there's still plenty of players that will help, you know, all 32 teams, you know, throughout the draft. I like to hear that. There's been a lot of negativity about this draft class. Con man, New England Patriot, Die Hard Fan, has a question for you. Yeah, being shot to your Buffalo Sabres, good game last night. But back to football real quick. Josh Allen's chugging beers. Maybe you need to look at Ty Simpson. Yeah, I don't have that guy. I don't have that guy's fully committed. Yeah, that was tough. Great beer chug. Fantastic. Josh, great beer chug. We love what you're doing for sport right there. And congrats on the kid. Yeah, and also people were judging the drum. He nailed the drum. He just wasn't hitting it as hard. He was going for the beat, not power. That's something you need to look at. And it's 1-1, so don't get too ahead of yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll see. One team is bigger, tougher, more physical, on his pad than the other team. But that's fine. B, when it comes to trades in the draft itself, Shraig's had four of them in his mock, one of them being the Cowboys switching picks with the Chiefs. But for you, you've traded up. You've traded back. Kinkade, you went up and got him. At what point are you starting to talk to GMs? Do you think these guys are talking now about, like, hey, can we move up here? Are you waiting till the draft starts? And if your guy starts to fall a bit, are you calling other teams? Like, what is kind of the strategy when it comes for some of these GMs trying to trade up and trade back? Yeah, I mean, I think you kind of check with how far are you realistically, wherever you're at in the first round? How far are you willing to go up, knowing, you know, generally speaking, what that draft capital would cost you. And listen, if you're willing to go in the top 10 and you feel like you got the capital to do it, you're checking in saying, hey, what is your interest? Or you guys think you would have an interest in moving back to our spot? Is this too far? You kind of want to get a feel. You may be, I'm just making up, you may be at 20. Well, I know this, the year we took Josh, okay, we were at 21 and 22, and I was calling. No one, you know, well ahead of time, hey, we were going to need to get into the top 10. I'm calling teams, and no one was interested in falling all the way back to 21. So I traded a player with Cincinnati and went from 21 to 12, and now teams were interested in moving. You know, we ultimately went from 12 to seven. I don't think I could have got that deal on draft day going all the way from 21 to seven. So you kind of get a feel of if those teams up there, however far you want to go, are they willing to drop back as far as you are, whether it's three spots or whether it's 15 spots. Guys, they're little deal makers out there. I like what we're doing in real time. Speaking of time, Shraig says the last question for you. By the way, that Cordy Glenn deal, I think I broke that one. Let's ask about the change in the draft because Pat brings up a big point here. It used to be 15 minutes, then it was 10 minutes, but now it's eight minutes for first round picks. I mean, you kind of got to be a little quicker and a little more nimble. What does that do to a GM, and how does that affect you when you're on the clock? Listen, at the end of the day, it's one round that you're doing it. We speed it up to seven minutes in the second round. You're prepared, we've been preparing for all this. So, at the end of the day, I know it's a TV production and all that. I don't see any issue with it. I think you're gonna kind of know ahead. If you're wanting to trade up, or if I'm sitting at 26, and I think I want to trade back, like I'm lining for the most part those up. It doesn't mean when you get on the clock, that you don't check with a couple of teams before you either make a pick or take another move. You have to have your ducks in a row. You can't sit there for five minutes before you start that process of making a trade. But I don't see it impacting in really shrinks. Are you gonna win a Super Bowl or not, dude? I'm sick of it. That's the goal, buddy. That's the plan. That's the plan. Too good at golf. You might have to get worse at golf. Yeah, that would help. I don't know how it's gonna go. I don't know how it's gonna go. You're so good at golf. So good at golf. Not really, not really. Yes, he is. Foxy, will you speak for the congregation here, Foxy? Yeah, Brandon Bean's incredible at golf. He will hit a four iron straight down the middle, driver straight down the middle. He will chip it on close and he will make that putt. He is absolutely nails. Yeah, he's been doing it since he's like a kid. Just ride the bike to the golf course. Let me play like a 90 year old and then he starts smoking the ball. He's a player. He's got a real stick. And tomorrow night, we'll see if he can get one pick, maybe two picks closer to that Lombardi. We appreciate the hell out of you, Beano. Good luck tomorrow. All right, buddy. Thanks guys. See you. Beano. We'll give it away from the draft. Let's head to the playoffs, not the NHL because it's tough to talk about that without having to bring up that the Flyers are just fucking dismantling the Pittsburgh Penguins. And I don't like it. Funny time. We're on the glass watching that ass get kicked the other night. And I'll say it, the Flyers bigger, stronger, faster, more talented. That's normally a pretty good little recipe to win. Yeah, stuff matters. That's tough. Sid can't just play all five positions. I wish. I wish he could. People aren't happy with Tanger on the internet. They need to relax. Tanger's done a lot of good. He is the least of our worries. Nah, he is one of our worries. But he is not the least of our worries. He'll get it figured out. Let's go to the NBA. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a dude. Obviously, we all love 15-year NBA veteran NBA champ, Stutt. Kendrick Park is where are you? Where are you? Where are you? You see it. Hey, I'm in the NYPAT. How's the Nick doing, man? I see the Nick Braceoff. How's the Nick doing? Everything good? I got my scans back, my C2, C3, C4, and C5, all 100% somehow. It might have been just in my mind that I maybe had a broken neck, but I'm happy that the doctor's here in Pittsburgh. UPMC took care of me. And thank you for checking in on me, Perk. I was in a bad spot out there. I saw you. You was in the club with 50. You weren't too bad. You weren't too bad. You was in the club with 50. You weren't too bad. 50, Cameron, Tony Yeo, onk murder was in there. I mean, we were doing it. It was 2005 in there. Bam, bam. Yeah. Bam, bam. Bam, bam. Bam, bam. Pup, pup, pup, pup, pup. I mean, it felt like I was 18 years old again. Angers. Anyways, let's talk about the NBA. We only got six minutes. It's on us. Thank you for joining us. Feels like the NBA had a big bounce back in game two of all the different series. Is who caught your eye this weekend? What do we need to potentially change our opinions on in your eyes? Oh, you know what? Man, I would say I got to go towards the Lakers. OK. Ron's going to win another one. No. No, no, no. Will not go that far. It's more so in the indictment of the Houston Rockets and how horrible they are. When you think about the position at their end, now you get back Kevin Durant and last night was a complete embarrassment. Marcus Smart showed up. Luke Connard is looking like the second coming to Larry Bird for some reason in the series. And you have Jackson Hayes, who numbers didn't pop out box score wise, is outplayed after Shangoon. And when I say outplayed him, Jackson Hayes was he did a lot of little things that was like winning plays yesterday. And it raised a concern and put a bigger scope on the Houston Rockets and how disconnected and dysfunctional they really are. OK, so let's talk about your comment about LeBron at the beginning of this series. I know you're turning it on to the Houston Rockets being ass and everything like that. But at one point, you said, if LeBron's able to do this at this stage of life, this first series against the Rockets, go conversations over. We've had what seemingly is 15 guys who play in the NBA are all from Chicago. They have all come on our show. And they just biased opinions. The conversation is over. 41 years old doing what he's doing, worthy of the respect that he's getting all across the board right now. It feels like people are finally feeling OK giving him a little bit of love for what he's doing right now. And rightfully so, look, Bron and I, AAU, battled in AAU, played on the same team with the Oakland soldiers, McDonald's All-Americans together, drafted together. He is still going, and I'm in the next chapter of my fucking life. OK? He is still going, and I'm in the next chapter of my fucking life and doing it at the highest level. Can you explain to me how 41-year-old God, his 23rd year in the NBA, is still looking like a top five player in the NBA? That's what he looked like last night. Now I get it. My God, Q Rich, he was on here a week ago. And I know how Q Rich stands. You could just go look at his IG page and when he posts all his shipments of Jordans that he get in every month. And you know he goes staying 10 toes down with MJ. My God, Shump was on here. He's from the shot. We know he goes staying 10 toes, although he won a championship with Bron, which is kind of crazy to me. But listen, what Bron is doing right now, you just have to. I sat back in my hotel room last night and I was just like, man, this is unreal. When he rejected that screening role and went down the lane, this play right here and rocked the cradle, he didn't have to show off like that. But he did that for the neighborhood. Yeah, he's. He did that for the neighborhood. Yeah, the Oakland soldiers, you know, yeah, back there doing it. OK, we got like two minutes left on this. We have to hit something other than Bron. Go ahead, D-Bone. Go to the East. We got the best and favorite Celtics. They took an L to the sixth. You just gave VJ Aircom, stepped up. Maxi stepped up. Are you concerned with the Celtics at all coming out of East now? Absolutely not. Hell no. You know why? Because listen, the Celtics shot 13 for 50 from the three point lines. They're not going to shoot that poor little again. And look, VJ Aircom, he cut them everywhere, but loose. He had the game of his life. 30 points, 10 rebounds in the garden. That's a hard thing to do. The one thing I would not do is question the Joe Missoula system. Amen. Like this is their offensive system. The one thing I would not question is, is that is Derek White and Jalen Brown. They will lock in and they will be better defenders in game three. So Tyrese Maxi, VJ Aircom, Paul George, they did their thing. They stole the game on the road, but I'm not concerned about the Celtics. They had the most championship experience in the East. Huge day yesterday for the underdogs in the NBA, which has been abnormal this season. Maybe the playoffs, just like we thought, are heating up. Yeah. Shout to the NBA. Shout to you, Perk. We wish you were here in Pittsburgh maybe next time. And thank you for everything, brother. Oh, you got to do a send the invite, Pat. I don't want to hear that shit, Perk. Sick of that. I'm sick of you talking like that. Ladies and gentlemen, that's Kendrick Perk. Yeah, Perk. He should be here. He's big enough. I felt draft guy. Nah, just him around. Yeah, good vibes. Now he's a slow mover, though. He does not walk fast. No, he does. No, those old school basketball guys, those knees. We're slow talking. We're slow moving, but the vibes through the roof. Immaculate. Love, Perk. Love that he's back. Shout to the NBA. Shout to you, Shraig. Yeah, brother. I love it. Guys, can I wait for tonight and tomorrow? Oh yeah. Tonight's a big one. Awesome night tonight. 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Football is spectacular. And obviously the four men on this stage that chanted the sport that has changed all of our lives and will change the trajectory of families tomorrow night here as Roger Goodell will announce 32 new NFL superstars. Football is the greatest sport on earth and this is a massive celebration of the city that embodies it as a whole. The football town, which is a NFL film. You got it. He's got it. Sitting on the wire. Yep, don't mind me. This guy's playing bongos on, listen to it. The wire's stuck on the microphone. Carry on, Pat. There we go. There we go. OK. Are you good? I think so. Ladies and gentlemen, senior NFL we're inside of ESPN. We're inside of ESPN. We're inside of ESPN. We're inside of ESPN. We're inside of ESPN. That's an entrance. That's an entrance, man. Shetty, will you break this news? Tomorrow, 7-pm, to start the draft spectacular, the seventh-annual draft spectacular, we'll be running the football town, which is the movie got- which is the movie that NFL films piece together alongside Lionsgate film, I do believe. I think Skydance was probably involved, Hitchcock Steelers were involved, and I was the one that was chosen somehow to voice it over in honor of a lifetime. I've only seen the first five minutes of it. I'll be watching all of it tonight at the Rangos giant theater that the Cayman Science Center has. This movie was made for the Science Center, literally for the theater that we're going to, it's massive screen. So we're having a little event tonight to watch it. It'll be my first time seeing it. Pretty emotional when I saw the first five minutes, they sent me over as a teaser. The fact that I'm a part of it was pretty emotional day for me actually, because there's so many people from Pittsburgh that could obviously be the voice of this particular thing. Tell us a story of Pittsburgh, tell us a story of our people, tell us a story of everything that these Hills are about, and we'll be playing it live tomorrow to kick our Thursday to, oh yeah, it is tomorrow. Jay, it's our Wednesday. That'll be tomorrow to kick off the draft spectacular at seven PM. So we're very thankful for the opportunity. We'll be watching it tonight. And yeah, I think it would be a good little precursor for what's about to come here in Pittsburgh as the next generation of draft pigs get announced. Tony Diggs is here, Ty Schmidt is here, AJ Hawke is here, Darius J. Butler is here. Shephter, that's who you'll be speaking to on this particular stage. Let's talk about the draft. Let's talk about some moves that are potentially being made. Right now, what are you doing with your life? We just talked to Beano. Beano's going through some mocks, trying to figure out what he could potentially have to do. Shrager just launched his last mock into the sun this morning at ESPN.com. So he's getting a lot of follow up there. What are you doing on this day? And what do you think we need to keep an eye out for? You know, it was about this very time last year, I got a call that the trade between the Browns and Jaguars was being discussed. It was like literally at this time, somebody called me like, you freed about 1230. I'm like, yeah, I'm free. And you don't forget these things. And every year, there are events that happen that you're not expecting. It could be a video of a prospect that's unveiled with a gas mask. It could be a trade that comes down that you get wind of in the works 24 hours in advance. It could be that we're trying to figure out where a certain quarterback is going to go. And lo and behold, he goes in the fifth round with the 144th overall selection to the interest of everybody. You never know exactly what is going to turn into the story of that draft. And that is waiting to be written in this particular draft. We just don't know what it's going to be yet. And so honestly, I've made some calls, calls coming in. We'll see where it goes. We're just waiting to see which is the issue that takes off. Where there won't be, say, water under the bridge, like Connor likes to say. You know, there'll be a live issue. You could turn your mic on, Connor. I think you do have one over there. I don't know who is in control of that particular microphone. But only so many seats. One of the boys has to get up. Connor's over in the corner, has a headset on. Can chirp in at any time. I do believe if they were turning on. Shut up, Shefty. There it is. Thank you. He passed out on Steel Curtain yesterday. We have it on camera. He's actually dead body on a roller coaster yesterday. We're happy he's okay actually. It's kind of a modern miracle that he's here to be honored. That's Kennywood, baby. They deliver. That is Kennywood football and always delivers just like you do, Sheftor. Okay, so you're saying the pen is yet to write the story of this particular draft. Correct. Is there any inklings on what it could be? Could it be a team trading a player? Like AJ Brown, I know it's not until June 1st. But is there any other potential trades that are maybe being cooked that we could foresee? Are there any players that maybe will be on the move as somebody much like Beano just brought up? He was at 21. He had to move up to 12 to be able to move up to seven to get Josh Allen. So he had to trade a player during the draft. A lot of people seemingly want to trade back. Do we have any superstar trades potentially on the horizon on draft day or any big time announcements on draft day ahead? Well, that's what we're waiting to see. Oh, so you have no idea. Right now, you can't say there's some huge event that is waiting to unfold here. No, we have the draft. We have the draft. And then there are all the things that come from that, off that. I don't know what that's gonna be. And I'm sure there's gonna be trades this weekend. Like could Keshavn Booty get traded? That could happen. This weekend could Keon Coleman get traded this weekend. That could happen. There's always veterans that could be traded in a weekend like this, always. But those wouldn't qualify as the storylines that steal the weekend. It's gonna be a certain player. It's gonna be a certain team. It's gonna be a move somebody makes. That's what I'm talking about. Now, I know we've talked a lot about the Dallas Cowboys coming up. I think they could wind up coming up, but it's cost prohibitive to come up to a spot like three. Say, I just don't know. I don't know. Addressor, what are they coming up for? I think there will be two guys that they come up for. Arvill, Reese, Sonny Styles. I think those would be the two guys that would interest that franchise. Are they gonna be around those players long enough for them to be able to make a move to come up high enough? Say it's six. Say it's six. And? And Cowboys have done that. 2012, they trade from 14 to six to get D.B. Morris Claybourne out of LSU. So maybe the Cowboys make a similar move tomorrow night. That would be the storyline. If Jerry Jones was wheeling and dealing in Pittsburgh. For that to happen, you'd have to have Styles and Reese Lastel six. I don't know that that's gonna happen. How about Caleb Downs? Caleb Downs, I think will be a top 10 pick. Does he go five, as high as five to the Giants? Does he go as low as 10 to the Giants? I could see. That sounds like Caleb. The Giants? Okay. I know Giants, they want Styles at five. They want Downs at 10. Depending on how the draft goes. I think if Love goes three, if Arizona can't trade out. Yeah. If Arizona can't trade out, and Arizona does go Love at three, then Tennessee's sitting there. I think Styles is a logical pick there at four. So you see him go four, and then Reese is there at five. And then that's interesting. I have a question off of that. So that's what Shraig's had mocked this morning. Does that mean Tibodeau is on the trade block then, if that happens? I think if they get Reese in the draft, I think they'd be listening. Okay. I think they'd be listening. Chef, what about the Chiefs? I know we're not used to them selecting. They have two first rounders. There's a chance that they try to make a splash and jump up there for somebody. I had that conversation with a few people yesterday. They have looked as much at going back in the draft as they have going up in the draft. Even though they right now have nine and 29, they have made calls and gotten calls from teams behind them that have just checked in about coming up and they don't know how it's gonna go yet. Right? Like which team would it be that would come up? I think we're gonna get a lot of activity in the second half of the draft. There are a lot of teams willing to move out. Second half of the first rounders. Second half of the first round. It's because they don't think there's 32 first rounders. So you're just back at the world. And everybody's got their own desire. Everybody's got their own desire. Oh, there's the text. That could be the story of the weekend. It was 80 Reese. No? I don't know. I'm trying to see what this is. We got something going on here. Let's see. It's just disgusting. Okay. There's gonna be a whole run of offensive linemen that come off the board tomorrow night. A whole run. What are you looking at me for like that, Pat? I just looked over your shoulder. I was looking at your phone. Over under seven and a half. I feel like I saw a lot of things. Seven and a half? I take the over on offensive linemen. Offensive linemen? I would as well. Over. So there's seven tackles plus Vega from Penn State. How about corners? What's the over under? Four and a half. Four and a half. That's interesting. That's very, and it's just. Everybody thinks they're gonna get it. But the under is minus 700. So why don't they move the line? I assume they think four is gonna go. So they can't make it three and a half. Cause then they would just have to make the over of three and a half minus. Are we getting a crown there? Cause we're of age. Like Colton Hood. I think he'll go. Mansour D'Lene. Mansour D'Lene, we know. I think that Demond. McCoy. Demond McCoy. Demond McCoy. Chris Johnson. Chris Johnson. Chris Johnson. Chris Johnson. Chris Johnson. Chris Johnson. Who would be the fifth? When they say four and a half. Who's the fifth quarter? Pounds? Ponds. Ponds? Ponds does pound people. Like if I saw Ponds play, I'd say Ponds. I'd say Ponds. I'm blinking on it right now. Chris Johnson. Maybe on Tyrell or something like that. But he's kind of falling back. I think. Why don't you figure, you're the one that's supposed to be giving these answers. I think. Hope he goes. Offensive line will be the most drafted position in the first run. Boy, that's a lot of cornerbacks for one and a half. That's why it seems high. Under's minus 700. That seems high to me. A little high. But it's such a coveted position. It is a coveted position. Quarterback coveted position as well. Everybody's telling me Ty Simpson's a cardinal. It wouldn't be a shock if that happened. I think going in, that's the most likely scenario. But I will say this. Last year we would have thought that Chidore Sanders going to the Pittsburgh Steelers was probably the most likely scenario. They're New York Giants. It didn't happen that way. So teams aren't showing their full cards to you. You don't know exactly. There's a lot of noise in the echo chamber that we're all hearing. People are hearing the same things. And what I love is Thursday night, Friday, Saturday, the moment of truth. We get to see if the Cardinals really are into Ty Simpson. Like a lot of people think they would have some level of interest. You are the echo chamber though, aren't you? You and Shragues and Daniel Jeremiah and Rap Support teammate. Rap sheet. And Palo Sero. Palo Sero. You guys are kind of the echo chamber. We've asked you about this every single year, like how do you know you're not getting played just for draft week? And you go, I think I built up relationships with the people. That they won't just lie to me. Isn't that kind of the case though? Because everybody just assumes that the game of the draft now, because everybody kind of understands draft a little bit more, is that people are working. And the way they're working is getting messages and narratives out and everything like that. And that would be through you. You have to really monitor that, don't you? I mean, we're talking about careers and public stories. Again, I feel like. You say, I don't want to have to go ahead and tell you about my credibility here. No, no, no, no. I just feel like people are going to talk to you. And the things that they want to hold close to the vest, they just won't share. They're just not going to tell you sometimes. But they're not going to lie. I don't think they're lying. What about CJ Stratt? What was that score? The S2. Yeah, S2. Yeah, S2. That kind of disappeared a bit. It has stopped kind of being talked about. But those things that are kind of leak, like the negative stuff. Like if it's coming to you and you picking and choosing on what you want to break, do you have to think like, whoa, this might be a ploy right here to potentially get something? Does that make sense? I don't know. Yeah, I know exactly what you're saying. Yeah, I think you have to be selective. There's a lot of stuff you hear all the time about players. And I would say almost always I don't use the majority of it. I just kind of hold on to it. Because I always feel like these players should go where they're going to go. And then after, like I remember as an example, Shack Lawson, Rex's coach. I think Rex was coaching there. I knew he needed shoulder surgery. They drafted him. I popped on the camera. I'm like, hey, they drafted a guy, great talent, has a chance to get. He's going to need shoulder surgery here at some point in the near future. And they asked Rex about it. And he's like, you know, shoulder surgery. A week later, he had the shoulder surgery. I mean, I want these young men who have worked so hard for this moment to go where they are. So if you're hearing things, and there are a lot of things you hear a lot of different people, I don't, I generally speaking, don't use that stuff. I appreciate that. I think as a former player, I appreciate that. Because if the team didn't find that out, why are you ESPN insider being the one doing the research review? This is on you. Is it your job now, precedent every single year that you have to tell everybody about everything? That would be a weird precedent. I like that you did that for him. Thank you for that. Now, did you do that for Alec Pierce on our free agent friends? Yeah, I knew that he needed ankle surgery. Did you really? But I don't want to do anything to damage his earning power with Indianapolis. Of course. And so we left it alone. You actually knew he needed that ankle surgery? I might have known. You let me do a full dance, didn't I? Open show? I did a full song of dance. He's going to be fine. Did you tell me? Three minds. Did the coach know? Did you tell me that you were coming on to use that information right away with the contract? I did. I did. OK. OK. And I'll say, other times, I put the eyeballs out. I think I make it very clear whenever I know something's happening. OK, so maybe turn on the notice, pal. OK, for those particular tweets, as you potentially. We have something here. Oh, oh, oh. Send it out. Send the tweet. Oh, boy. Steven Jones just announced that they will make George Pickens planter the tag this year, and that there'll be no long-term deal. That's not good. Oh, here. By the way, here we go. There's one storyline for the week. That's a big one. OK, because if they're going to trade and move. If they trade him, though, is he a trade candidate during the year? Yeah, if they want to move up high, right? If they want to trade. Hold on. You can't trade George Pickens without him signing the franchise tender. And he's not going to sign it unless he agrees to go somewhere else that would potentially reward him. So he could definitely get traded. So they got eight minutes to figure that out somewhere. Why wouldn't he sign it? He's pissed at them for not giving an extension. He could easily sign that. So yeah, ship me out of here. I want a long-term deal from someone else. Who's his agent, Mollaguetas? Yeah, Mollaguetas. Mollaguetas is his agent? Yeah, but he'll get a deal before he gets traded. Yep. George Pickens bank account is about to be gigantic. And this news right here just kind of certified that for me, because now there's an opportunity for there to be a little competition for his thing. Congrats to George Pickens. OK? Hell yeah. Maybe. Huh? Maybe. I mean, that says you're playing under the tag. And Mollaguetas is his agent? Yeah. So I would tell you he is not playing under a tag. That's kind of what I'm saying. He might not play football this year. Oh, he'll play football. He'll play football somewhere. And I think he's going to get paid somewhere, probably if I had to guess. And I think Jerry, who says, we have Maka, he's one football player. We trade him. We're able to get more football players. You see? That's Jerry's go. That's how Jerry does it. They got Maka. We don't. We tied. Yeah. OK. I don't know how much more I got to say. He'll do that with George, too. Oh, yeah. Oh, he'll do it with George. You don't want to play with French hashtag? It's a lot of money. You don't want to be a cowboy? They'll trade him. Will they not? I'm going to say this to you right now also. OK. Yeah. Your journalism here, we are punditry right now. I feel like George getting traded to somewhere else. Mollaguetas is the agent. There's no way he's going to play under a French tag. So there's no way he's going to take a year off. So that sounds like George. They traded a third round pick from last year. And there was not a lot of teams out there that were willing to compensate the Steelers. So what can you get back for a player that right now isn't going to be signed to a long-term deal? Again, this just became the first interesting storyline of Draft Week right here, as we're sitting here with Stephen Jones saying that. And so that brings back up the possibility, if we go back to Draft about five years ago, Dallas Cowboys had other needs. CD Lamb was sitting there. They had at that time a Mari Cooper and Michael Gallop playing wide receiver. And they took CD Lamb because he was the best player on the board. They'd love to go defensive players. But I will say this, I think they like Jordan Tyson too. And if Jordan Tyson were to make it to 12, that would be an interesting decision for the Dallas Cowboys to have to make. Yeah, especially because for top 30 of his, they brought in about every defensive player they could for that could potentially go in the first round. George Pickens can get open, right? Oh yeah. Yeah. George Pickens potentially on the move with the noose that he is going to be asked to play under the franchise tag, which we just assume would not happen. By the way, and I love this. This is one of my favorite things about doing the show. NFL executive texts me right now. It must be watching this show. I would bet my life savings on under four and a half quarterbacks. Yes. OK. OK. All right. OK. One of them I thought trained Stu, so I know you're a big fan of Shetty. Maybe he sneaks in the last one. But yeah, everyone's thinking under four. I guess President Bill Clinton showed up at the Cowboys pre-draft press conference. Really? I guess he just popped his head in as they were kind of doing their thing. From my understanding, this is what Ari Mirov has tweeted. Yep. There he is. The hell's he doing there? President Bush was at the Bocco's game last night. Yeah, I saw that. The Rangers. Yeah. Yeah, I believe I was watching that. President Clinton just walked into the Dallas Cowboys pre-draft press conference. I wonder if he's making any decisions in there. A lot of news. A lot of news happening over there. OK. Let's ask some more information on the man who has all the information. D-butt has a question for you, Chef. I just want to ask you. You talked about the Cleveland Jacksonville trade kind of brewing up at this point in time. How much has it changed for you and how the teams operate behind the scenes leading up to the draft stars action, trades, information? How much has it changed, I say, in the last 20 years in 2006 and now in 2006? Well, I think that teams have begun to operate knowing that as soon as something is in place, they know that it's not going to be long before it's out there. And part of these discussions is figuring out how you're going to handle the fallout once it gets out and how it's going to get out and when it's going to get out. So I just think with all the attention, that may be the only change. And there are more trades than ever before. By the way, I think there have been so far this year since the start of the New League year when we were in Indianapolis, 23 trades. More trades this year from the start of the league until now than ever before. So I think teams are more willing to make trades. There's more. People are used to making these trades. They're preparing for these trades and the fallout that comes along with it's just a much busier time. How do you think Gidell is going to do tomorrow? Got any tidbits on how he's going to speak? Is he really flowing right now? Chest bumps and good daps, you think, with all the players? You know, I'll say this. This morning, I could not sleep. I was just kind of wired. Yeah. Of course. We went to the gym about 5.15 this morning. No big deal. 5.30. There's only one guy in there. 2.25. 2.27, I heard. Roger Gidell. OK. In there. Oh, different hotel. Did you spot him on the bench? AJ was in at 4.30. Yeah, he was done. AJ was done. He had come and gone. They don't put us in your guys' hotel. That's what I've learned over the last couple trips. Yeah, definitely not. Keep them in there. Keep them in. Oh, Rodges at this hotel? Let's put them in that one. It sounds like I think we're in the opposite hotel normally of where? Yeah. ESPN. Royalty. Yeah, there you go. There's what? Smart decision. Smart decision, by the way. I didn't know that the hotel that we're staying in existed. I should have been staying in that hotel since the day I left Pittsburgh. It's a good hotel. I was staying in Super 8's and shit. OK, I was staying in shitty hotels. That's kind of on you. I mean, there's a Weston down here. I stayed in them once or twice. And there's a couple. This hotel, we're in history. We're at a place. Yeah, I know you are. Beautiful. My senior problem was there. Wow. How'd it go? Not great. Building was maculant. It is. I've learned a lot about Pittsburgh history that I didn't know before coming here for this draft week. And then also with the football town, which you're coming to tonight. I am. Can't wait to see you there. Hopefully by then you have a little more information. Hopefully. Under 4 and 1 half cornerbacks. All right. Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Sheftan. Ladies and gentlemen, Chef D. Chef D. Chef D. Chef D. Chef D. Chef D. Chef D. That was a crazy ride there, looking over his shoulder. Thanks, Chef D. You know what I mean? I bet. Thanks, Chef D. What'd you see? So what he's, yeah, what was? Just like before he opened, he's trying to open up another conversation right now. Just to knock Coach Saban's bottle out of his hand. Bunked heads almost. Yeah, he did absolutely in this entire thing. I looked the convotes before he went into the, so I could only see the first sentence of a lot of different convos. I'm like, wow, is that what it's like? Everything. Just the amount of people that are just kind of getting. And he's got to have name, affiliation. Team. You know, he's got to, there's so many. And the first sentence, it felt like it was a lot of chef D. Alts. Yeah. It felt like there was a lot of lines in the water. You know how we done? How we done? A lot of those types of things. But he's definitely working. Big game hunt right now. Yeah. And right now he's asked Coach Saban, he ties it. You hear anything? Tell me about. We're about to do it a matter of seconds. Yeah. Connor's listening in literally right there next to him. Yep. Connor boots on the ground in the conversation between Schifter and ladies and gentlemen joining us now is a man who's considered the greatest of all time in college football. When it's all said and done, he might be considered the greatest television personality of all time as well. He sells Benzos. He sells lambos. Yeah. Benzos or Aris. Probably. Benzos may be the most sought after speaker in the entire United States of America. He owns the Nashville Predators. Yeah. What? Ladies and gentlemen, an icon of a man, somebody that we are lucky enough to call a friend of the program. He looks lean. He looks mean. He looks tan. He's the man on college game days. He has a lot of coverage on ABC. Schifter's Relightly. Oh yeah. This conversation doesn't look like anywhere close to over. Ladies and gentlemen, Nick Saban. Go away. There he is. You're the man. Coach, you got some drunk toes over here. Lads, lads, lads, lads. Good to see you guys. They're doing it already. I love it. That's a draft. Hey, here, let me fix that. Yeah, Shefty had the same issue. Boom. All right. All right. All right. All right. Hey, Shefty was pretty relentless right there. Wait till you hear the intro I just gave you. I had to fill and fill and fill and fill because he was killing you over there. Was he asking about Ty Simpson? Because I want to ask about Ty Simpson. Ty Simpson, number two quarterback in the draft, everybody thinks he's going to Arizona, but they're saying he's not worth the high picks, so they think they're going to come in the tail end of the draft. How do you feel about Ty Simpson? How do you feel about kind of this entire draft process for him? And what do you think stands out for him that maybe says he is going to be a great Sunday guy? Well, I think Ty Simpson is a guy that didn't play as much in college as a lot of these quarterbacks as they developed. So he's only played, what, 15 games or whatever. And I think maturity would be the word that I would say is important in the development of his game. I think he can throw it well enough. I think he's athletic enough. Decision making, processing, drifting in the pocket. I mean, things that you can improve on with experience because maturity is nothing more than making the right decision at the right time. And that comes with experience and repetition. He doesn't have enough of that, but he will get it. And I think be a very good player, but he needs to go someplace where he has a chance to develop and not play right away. That's just my opinion. But let's talk about every quarterback maybe needing that. And the greats of the past outside of Peyton. Peyton has the rookie interception record, but Tom was behind somebody. Aaron's behind somebody. Was Drew Brees? He, no, Phil was. I don't know. Whatever the case, there's a lot of case studies that say if you're able to watch somebody do it, you'll be able to get better. But there's also a conversation about we, he needs reps. He needs reps like Anthony Richardson, whenever he got drafted number four overall to the Indianapolis coach, there was a lot of talk about him never playing football, like really never playing football before. We've seen the highlights. That's all he's played football. So they're talking about, well, he needs to mature. Maybe he needs to watch somebody, but then he also needed reps. It's kind of a, I don't know. I don't know what the right answer is. I genuinely don't know what the right answer is. You would know better than me, but I like somebody seeing it first before they get to go do it. Now that turns to Fernando Mendoza. Okay. Tell me about him going to Las Vegas and seemingly going to start after Kirk Cousins gets in there. Do you think that is a sustainable style of play the way Fernando plays? Everybody talks about the option shit that he didn't offer our RPO stuff in college. For some reason it hasn't been like, Hey, this guy is a guy convo. What are your thoughts on Fernando? Yeah. Well, I'm big on making comparisons. So you go through the scenarios where quarterbacks got to sit behind somebody. And I think the biggest failure rate in the NFL is because quarterbacks play before they should. But if you look at the three guys two years ago, Caleb makes an impact in Chicago. God makes a big impact in Washington. God makes a big impact. Great makes a big impact in New England. So those guys played pretty much right away and improved dramatically quickly. But a lot of failures in the NFL play before they're ready at the position, lose their confidence and then over go to pot. It's over. So I do think if you were going to compare Fernando, you would say he fits more into comparing them to those three guys we just talked about than he does to some of these other guys. He would be in the conversation if he was in that draft. And I agree with you on the RPOs and but the guy is sneaky athletic. He doesn't look athletic, but probably better than he is. He's accurate throwing the ball. He's smart. He's a good decision maker and he's accurate. So those things are really, really important in my opinion. And I think he's got the right mindset and he's improved a lot through his college career. So I'm not saying he won't have some bugs in the road. But I also think that he could be pretty damn good. He has beers with the boys too. I think that's a big deal. No question. I genuinely think that is a big deal. And I assume a Cali maybe wasn't doing that because he talks about how he had to grow as a leader and everything like that. Beers with the boys is a huge sign of success in my eyes, especially if you're able to perform on the field and he's tough as shit. Feels like he is wildly tough. I like Fernando a lot. I like him a lot, but there seemingly hasn't been like a parade for him coming in here as the number one overall pick outside of the Raiders organization. Yeah, well, but but I also think that quarterback position is always going to get pushed up if there's a good one. So you could always kind of make an argument maybe for that. But I'm with you on the leadership part of it because I think quarterback is the is the position that's hardest to play if you don't have good players around you. So if you're not a quarterback that takes responsibility for being a leader to impact the other players on your team, then I think you're hurting yourself. And I'm so far from my home. You hear that? Yeah. Oh, they're going to play that when they're on the clock. Aren't they? Yeah. Yeah, that's supposed to be the plan. Oh, so you know, you know, you probably got a little run through on how this draft's going to, are you excited for the game day draft? I'll prep. You're you prep, you over prep for everything. So whenever there is potentially, how many days are you doing this? How many days are you doing the draft? First and second. Okay. So that's technically what 64 picks? Quick math? No. Second has how many picks? There's three rounds. Second, second, third. Three rounds. First round. I knew that. I'm doing the second and third picks on Friday. I knew that. Obviously I knew that. Okay. So that's what 96 picks total. You did research for what? 500 guys. How do you feel? I probably looked at 150 guys and I'd look at them just like if I was at the dolphins or the Browns or whatever. And I still have the sheet that we used to evaluate them on, critical factors and all that stuff and put all the information on one sheet, try to condense it. So but there's always guys that pop up that you didn't do. I'm bummed out that our draft spectacular happens at the same time that you're on there. We'll watch on Friday night. Get to do it. I assume you crush the draft coverage. I mean, you're perfect for it. D-but has a question for you. Yeah, you talked about you being big on comparisons because you've been around so many great players. I want to ask you an example of yours from the past, maybe a player you coached in college that when they went to the NFL, they kind of hit another level because the NFL game was more geared to their talents. Any personal players that you've had that experience with and then is there a guy that you see in this draft maybe that will get drafted and really take off at the next level? I think Jamar Gibbs is one of those guys that he was a really good player at Alabama. Good receiver, productive. But I mean, when he went to the Lions, he was, he did more for their team. And he played great for us. I don't mean this in a negative way. No, no, no, no. And he did for our team. Yeah, he became the guy. I mean, he became the guy. I see Jeremiah Love as a weapon that, you know, maybe at Notre Dame, he did great things. But on an NFL team, because he could be such a good receiver, and a runner, and used in so many ways. I mean, you don't have to just play him in the backfield. You can put him out there and make him a wide out. So I think that guy is a guy that, you know, could do those kind of things. Caleb Downs. Well, Caleb Downs made more players at plays in college than anybody in the draft. All right. So he makes that many plays in the NFL. I mean, what's what's what's the capability gap? I mean, how much better can he get? Okay. So that was like when he got to campus. Obviously, he's gotten better. He works his ass off and being with you and Matt Patricia and everything he's been able to do, obviously makes him an incredible player. A week ago, the convo was, what positions he going to be? Now it's like he's definitely going to be a top 10 pick because of how talented he is. Josh Chapman told us today he walked onto your campus. He was gold jack. It was obvious that this guy's a gold jacket. What have you seen through his college career and what are you excited to say about him tomorrow night whenever he gets drafted in the first round? Well, I would say that when he played for us as a freshman, he would have been the first safety taken in the draft. I mean, the guy is so instinctive. He's got really good ability. He is a phenomenal person and he is a football junkie and he is just so instinctive on the field and such a fast reactor. Now he plays better. Everybody's questions whether he can play in a deep part of the field. He can play in a deep part of the field, but when he's in a deep part of the field and he comes downhill, he's going to bust your ass. Yeah, he thumps. He's a thumper. Now, and the only negative I would say to him, I talked to him on the phone the other day and it was the same thing when he played for us. He tries to butt him to the ground. He hits him so hard. I said, how about trying to wrap him up? Go ahead, Ty. Coach, what about another guy? You had Caden Proctor, who I want to say you only had him his freshman year and then you're retired. But early in the draft process, a lot of people, you know, killed him for whatever his weight at certain points last year. He's obviously an athletic freak when you look at his measurables. And now as we get closer to the draft, he's kind of gaining a lot more. People saying, hey, he could be the first or second tackle taken off the board. What do you expect out of him? And why do you think that kind of change has happened this close to the draft? I think people get a little bit more tolerant of these small issues. You know, people look for reasons, not the pit guys. All right, that's how it starts. I mean, like players used to tell me all the time, I'm going to combine and improve my stock and improving the stock. They're looking for reasons not to take it. And they're going to find one. All right, so. So do not work out. But anyway, but I think the thing is this guy is so talented, big, physical, can move and has power. He's got range. He's got good feet. Now, the issue with him is he's not a bad person. He'll do whatever you ask him to do once you get him in the building. But when he's not in the building, he might get a little overweight. He might not come in in the best shape. And those are the kind of things you've got to manage with him. But I think they're manageable. In other words, he's not really a self-starter that's going to go out there and, you know, get in great shape and come to camp like you want them. But if you can get him to come to camp, if you got him there and get him ready to go. So I don't think that's a huge negative for the guy. And I think he's going to be a really good player now. And if he can't play tackle, he would be one hell of a guard. So there's no downside in taking the guy. Andrew Whitworth, obviously, LSU legend alongside you. He told us at the beginning of his career in Cincinnati, he was playing guard. And he said he was coming out of the huddle laughing because it was the easiest thing of all time because bodies are just getting sent to your way. So when you have a tackle body and then you don't have to go get people, they're just kind of getting filtered to you. That's dominance. That's why Mackay Bekton, whenever he moved to guard, was such a successful player. That's a huge transition for players. And like, this is a big part of why it's a crapshooter drag because you mentioned, you know, when you're outside of the building. I know for me, I don't know about you, for you, AJ, that was the biggest adjustment for me because in college, everything was so structured. You knew where you need to be, when you need to be there. And it was a pro once that season ends. It's kind of all on you. Hard times. When you schedule your workouts, when you schedule vacations, family time, all these different things, then you got to show up at this time of year and OTAs and stuff and be in shape because you don't want to be there tired of having soft tissue or having something like this. Can't figure out and get on the field and get those valuable reps. So that is probably the biggest adjustment for becoming a pro. You hear beer pro, beer pro, beer pro. And it takes a lot of guys a couple of years, a few years, maybe some good vets in that room, good coaches to kind of really bring them along and teach them. That same word, maturity. Mm-hmm. You know, make the right decisions and the right situations. Yeah. And you're going to make the right choices and decisions in those situations to put yourself in the best chance to be successful. Yeah. Maybe don't get arrested on a Tuesday. It should happen. Yeah, it happens. It was by we coach. Talking about the draft being a, like a crapshoot. First round hit rate, Hembo kind of gave us a stat. Hit rate means second contract with the team in which you draft. Interior offense alignment, 60%. Offense attack will 60%. It feels like if you're going with a big guy, you can kind of tell if they're going to go six out of 10 though. Yeah. That's not a, that's not a definite, you know, 60%. Whenever they talk about going for it on the little graphics, they act like that's 100%. It is not. That is a quarterback less than 50%. Limeback are less than 50%. Edge defender, 40% roughly. Defense attack will 40%. Running back, 37%. 34% tight end and wide receiver both at 32%. You're not guaranteed a good player. And that's kind of the craziness of it all. Yeah. Especially as of late, it feels like the wide receivers have gotten better. This is from 2000 to 2021. I assume if you were to do the last seven years, maybe six years, the hit rate on wide receivers would be way up because of seven on seven and the way everything kind of went there. But over the last 21 years, since the history of the draft, everybody says that the player is going to change their team. Being in a locker room, being a punter on special teams, depending on a lot of these guys that get drafted together, there's a lot of ass football players somehow getting into the NFL. And whether it's off field lack of work ethic, or if it's not understanding ball at a level in which it has to, and maybe just not physically being able to keep up with what the NFL is, there's a lot of misses coming out of this draft tomorrow night. And I don't think it's fair that we just call her by a bust. It's really hard to make it in the league, even if you're drafted in the first round. And I think that the perspective needs to kind of get shifted a little bit when everybody's just like, we'll get this guy. We went in Super Bowl. It's like stats tell us this guy and could be on your team in four years. So let's go ahead and just remember that. But also there's a chance you find Hall of Famer in there. There's a chance you find a staple and a pillar in there, which is why it's so damn special. And it's like, how do you classify bus? Because you know, Darius Hayward Bay gets drafted in the top 10. And yeah, he may not have been the receiver everyone expect, but you talk glowingly about him all the time about him being a Pro Bowl special team. Or, you know, so it's like, where, where is that line defined? You know, yeah, by that account, he wasn't a Pro Bowl wide receiver, but he was crucial to you guys. He played a long time. Exactly. He went to Pittsburgh. They paid him like a lot of money to be a team. Yeah, but they would consider him a bust for sure. Yeah, definitely. Love what he did there. He was the first Super Bowl. Yeah. Excellence is success over time. And you know, when you're a college player, your whole goal in life is to play in the NFL. So you have this built in motivation. So it's about getting in the NFL or is it about a standard of excellence once you get there? And I think that's what differentiates a lot of psychological disposition that these players have. So they don't disbust because of their athletic ability. They bust because they don't have the right psychological disposition to be motivated to be what, what they're capable of being. They lose their motivation because they just wanted to play in the NFL rather than being great in the NFL. And there's a difference. Oh, definitely. Definitely a difference between having a cup of coffee and actually being a part of the NFL family forever with how long you're able to play. Do you think the NIO now, the kids are rich as teenagers? Changes that a little bit? Because I think it used to be goal. Let's get to the NFL and get a bag. You know, we get money for the first time in our lives, especially if you're a first rounder. AJ Still. My God. AJ Still. Have you seen his house in Ohio? He's number five overall pick. Old, old CB8. Old, old CB8. They gave him. He has this. Yeah. This is his house in Ohio. Yeah. Right here because number five overall. But nowadays these kids are making what, six and a half million dollars? Some of these first rounders are making at this point. Is that a good thing or I think it's a good thing because we know what people would do with money. Right. Don't you think that is kind of a, I think that is definitely, you asked me about a guy like Proctor. You know, there would be a bigger question in my mind if he never made any money in college. So how does money affect a guy like that? Yes. There's no question about that because he already has money. So I think that's a good thing. I do. I think so too. But I also think that there's, it's kind of a two way street. This is one of the older drafts because guys stay in college longer. There's less juniors that come out because they're making money. So you take away the whole financial incentive to come out early, which used to be financial, which no longer exists. Does that make sense? Fascinating. Yes. Definitely. So now you've got some 20 year old guys in the draft and you've got some 26 year old guys in the draft. And I think that's a huge difference in who you want on your team and how you want to develop them. Now the good news is if guys are staying in college longer, that's good for their development because they're obviously, they're down the line guys are going to play and develop more in college than the opportunity they get in the NFL. I think the NIL Trans Reporter Era is having a lot of ripple effects that we're only going to continue to see. Thank you for going to White House and saying, we got to fix this shit. All right. I do appreciate you doing that. AJ has a question for you, Coach. Yeah. Coach, you were talking about evaluating players. Obviously back in college, I'm sure you're evaluating these high school players. You're evaluating the high school guys when you're in the pros, you're evaluating college. And you mentioned critical factors. What are some of those critical factors you do evaluate? Have those changed over time? Yeah. Well, the first guy that I really learned this from was Hal Belichick sort of when I was with him, how we evaluated players and he defined the kind of players that we wanted in the organization. Character, intelligence, size, speed and what are the critical factors that play that position in our system? Now, I always coach the DB. So I'll give you that because that's what I'm more expert at. So a guy's got to be able to tackle, play the ball in a deep part of the field, play man to man. Those are three critical factors. Now, you may have 25 things that you evaluate. Quick feet, change of direction, burst out of a break. How does he open his hips, all this kind of stuff to determine those three things. But if you watch the film and a guy misjudges the ball on the deep ball, all right, or he's missing a lot of tackles. Can't have it. Those are all big plays. You know, and if you can't play man to man, you can't get your ass off the field on third down. So can't have it. Walt win with it. So, but every position had that kind of, now that's not all you looked at, but those were like killers. You know, if we got to play a guy that can't judge a ball in a deep part of the field or corner, he's going to give up a lot of the best stuff. We don't want that guy. Disquadron. And then, you know, Bill Parcells, Bill Belichick, they were big people. You know, you've heard me say before on TV, you know, football is a great game for little people until you put a big guy in front of them. Yep. You've heard me say that before, right? Oh yeah. It's the same way a corner. I mean, you got a little corner and he's playing against a big receiver. It's like a pop. They play that shit in the NBA, man. As soon as they come across half court, if a big guy is on a little guy, they're giving the ball to the big guy, right? Yes. Same thing. How do you feel about ponds? Feel about ponds? Ponds is a great football player. He might be pound for pound as good a football player as there is in the draft, but he's going to have a hard time playing corner in this league because of matchup issues. But I think the guy would be a really good star. You know, Javier Arenas was that kind of player. He played for a while in the league, but he was a good star. He was one of those five, nine guys that was explosive, powerful, good tackler, smart, aggressive, good blitzer. Ponds is all those things. But if you put them out there at corner, somebody's going to try to figure out how to take advantage of them. Yeah, I feel like that is the game ultimately. Debut, you had, you got drafted at a high second round, the Belichick three disqualifiers I just learned you ain't have. They didn't worry about the weak ass hands. No, I agree. They ran my workout. I actually did a workout as a corner first. Then I did a wide receiver workout. So they knew the hands were elite day one. Maybe they call digs has a question for you, coach. Yeah, coach, you just brought up coach Belichick and we had him on here two or three years ago and his big thing for the whole draft was sticking to your horizontal draft board. Okay. So you being obviously you've looked at all these players and you've been a coach in the draft room and how important though, is it the dynamic with the head coach and the GM and then sticking to the board when you're on the clock and not doing something stupid? Because I know there's a lot of voices in that room. Yeah, well, I think it's really important. I've all you've heard me talk about vertical integration in the NFL from the owner to the president, the GM, the coaches to the staff. So you get the right kind of players. If the GM wants this kind of player and the coach wants this kind of player, it's not going to fit systematically and somebody's going to get fired. Most of the time it's the coach. All right. So because the GM's sitting in the press box telling the owner what he wants to hear. I mean, I mean, I mean, and you're on the sidelines as a coach trying to win the game. Yeah, of course. Good luck. So all the taking is always happening. Uh huh. So it is critical. And look, one thing we never had to do in college is we just had to say these are the five best offensive tackles that we're recruiting. Here's the five best corners because we could take more guys. Yeah. But in the NFL, having the board horizontally, is this offensive tackle better than this corner? And you did that by having a nine point grading system. This guy might be a seven point five. The corner may be a seven point two. So who we picking? We're going to take the tackle for value because he's a better player long term or we need the corner. And those are the kind of decisions you've got to make. And when you're not on the same page, they get really hard to make. We've got some hembo stats here on the history, uh, or on this particular draft for most amount of picks here. The Jets are the only team with four top 50 picks. They can really do some damage. I remember they did not take David Bailey on one of their top 30 visits. They said they knew everything about him already. Fascinating. The dolphins are the only team with more than five top hundred picks. Good luck to them. They're going to need them. Ain't that right? Gumby. Sully's at the wheel. We're good to go. Coach Saban also pulling for the dolphins. Obviously always will be seven starters. Yeah, maybe it could be, should be. Ha, gonna have to be probably for your guys. Team, you got rid of all your good players over the last couple of years. The Broncos are the only team without multiple top hundred picks. Sean Payton sitting there on the ice yesterday. Yeah. Hey, right there on the ice. He's got nothing to do for a couple of days. He almost got glass on him. He almost got shards on him as he's hanging out watching the Colorado avalanche, who might be the real deal. And the Predators are Predators in the playoffs. Nope. I had a chance to get in, went four, five and one in the last 10 games. And missed it by, you know, two points or however they do it in hockey. How'd you feel about the season? How'd you feel about the hockey season? Were you in the building? Hey, I'm anxious to see how we can build the program, just like we built programs in other places and we get the right people in the organization. It's kind of exciting. Have you shot a pocket? No, I haven't been to a game yet either. Can you skate? No. Have you tried? You've been to West Virginia, man. Where would you stay? We ain't got, what is he, a speed skater? You gotta go straight down the hill. You're gonna have to stop. Jump and do jump. Could have at some point. Can't wait to see you at a Predators game. Can't wait to see you do your thing for the draft coverage. Thank you so much for taking time out of your life to join us today. You look good. You're super fit right now, huh? You feel good? Yeah, I'm playing a lot of golf. How's the game? Nice. Sometimes good, sometimes bad, man. That's a metaphor of life, that game. I mean, you know, I mean, you hit a good shot. You got to deal with success. You hit a bad shot. You got to deal with failure and focus on the next shot. If you don't focus on every shot, you get punished. I mean, it's a damn dis thing. That's right. That's golf, baby. That's golf, baby. That is golf, football. What's bad for you though? What's bad? You said some days good, some days bad. What's bad? Oh, well, some days I can't putt, some days I can't hit straight off the team. What do you mean? 80, bad. I've shot my age three times. When's the most recent time? You've shot 68 recently. About a week ago. 73. I'm 74 years old. Oh, you get the easiest. I thought you were running. Hit the number. I thought you were late 60. You're 74, you know? I actually shot 82 with Augusta about a month ago. That's pretty goddamn good. I was nine over on the front and one over on the back. Wow. The second. The second. Went through Amen Corner one under. Wow, that's cool. Would you birdie to part three or would you part? Birdie to 12. Yeah. Wow. Second nine, not back nine. I think you're good there forever because of who you are, but if I was to get that wrong, I'm potentially, you know what I mean? So let's make sure we get the words right. Patrons don't have that kind of expectation for me, though. Yeah, you're a southern God. Yeah, I understand that works down there as they should. You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, the goat coach Saban. Thank you. Thank you guys. Good to see you all again. Good to see you coach. Love you coach. You look good. Hey guys, we're stand up. Yeah, boys. Good work there boys standing up for the coach. Miss Amy. See you later. Great seeing you. Yep. You're the best. Thank you so much. Feels like the draft is really starting to heat up. We had Brett Michaels playing earlier. We had sick. See a coach. How about coach? See a coach. How about him coming in here and just shifter just going. Let me stop you right. Let me pick your brain for one half of the talks at the table at Boston Connors back. You were right in the middle of that convo. Was chef for trying to get as much information as possible out of coach Saban right there? Yeah, after seeing how shifter works, I have a completely different perspective on him. He's a true shark eye to eye. He got real, real close to Nick Saban's face. So you know the information that he was looking for was serious. But yeah, that was a high football IQ conversation from one side. The other side was just questions. Hey, tell me more. Yeah, he was kind of downloading everything. Exactly. That's kind of what shifter was doing. Speaking of high football, something Saban said when he was talking about the star position. Black people at home probably don't know that is kind of like a nickel slot defender. So think Derwin James, Cooper D'Jean, Nick Mawry, Devin Weatherspoon out in Seattle, who I think him being as successful as he's been will help DeAngelo Ponds probably draft stock tonight or tomorrow night. Troy Palamalu, original. Troy. Troy played everywhere. Seewood. Those guys and Caleb Downs, I can see him playing his position as well because those guys can just impact so much of the game. They communicate with linebackers, corners, safeties, linemen sometimes. They can blitz. They're immediately, they're going to make your brink game and your pass game better. So you get a guy like this in the building, obviously never going to come off the field. You can, they're like a chess piece on defense. So you see the last two Super Bowl champs, Cooper D'Jean and Nick Mawry, that was two of their best players playing at one of the most critical in my opinion positions. The queen chess piece. Yeah. Yep. Yeah, it's not the stupid horse one that's an L. No, not a night. Sneak up on you now. Not a rock. Yeah. Careful. But I'm saying that one's just running in a route the whole time. We're talking that these, these stars just need to go everywhere. Yeah. Yeah. They go a lot back off the field. You don't have to, yeah. Yeah. It's the best in, with the game now, they have to be able to thump. Thumping is back in football and we love that. I'm excited to see Gadel thump a couple of these big guys tonight. As we wrap up here on ESPN, let's make sure we cover all the news stories of the day. Brandon Aubrey, highest paid kicker ever, four year, 28 million, 20 million guarantee with Cowboys. Congratulations, Brandon. Well done. You earned that, pal. Remember, there were some rumors going around about what he was expecting and wanting and thinking and all that stuff and then his agent said that's not real. Got a transition tag that I believe somebody else could have made an offer for him through that point. He ended up being definitely back with the Cowboys. They get to deal done with the most accurate kicker maybe of all time if he's to go. Guy never misses. It doesn't make any sense. He hit, I think two cross our uprights in the same game last year. It was his only like, and it was earth shattering headline news. Brandon Aubrey missed the kick. Okay. That when you get to that point, Tucker was there for a little bit. Yep. Boswell got to that point a little bit. Obviously, Vinitari lived in that moment for like 20 years. If you're somebody that they make a big deal out of you missing anything, that means you're a guy. Aubrey's been that literally since day one. He got in the NFL and he might hit from 75 yards. Weapon. Absolute weapon. And when you talk about the salary cap going up and to the right to have a guy that can make a kick for you, priceless. They put a price on it. It's about 5 million a year. What else happened around here? Shane Steichen says Dan Jones is back to throwing and performing his drop. And we saw him walk in broken leg and an Achilles and enough to slow Daniel. Dimes down. Now he lost a receiver, Michael Pitt. Sure. Tough to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Uh-huh. Kept Alec Pierce, who he made definitely his absolute best version of him. He's out for three months. Dimes is back. I'm excited about the future. I love where we're at, D. I love where we're at as well. We're obviously moving on, I think to kind of a new chapter with Kenny Moore moving on, Zaire Franklin moving on. Do you really love where you are though with all these great players leaving? We got, look, we still got a GM. What's that? We still got that. I just wonder if you're true, if you guys really are excited about the future. We got our quarterback. Yeah. We got a great player. You see our quarterback walking in. Alec Pierce, he signed him $150 million. He's got ankle surgery three days later. He'll be all right. It was a week and a half later. We hope. Yeah. Multiple weeks later. Did you know about Pierce's surgery before the cold sign of the extension? That's what he was kind of saying. He kind of is what he was saying. But I think he kind of has to say that. Isn't that kind of like a thing? I knew. That's kind of what he was doing. It's like, I don't know. Did you? You looked over his shoulder on his phone. You think you knew? Based on what you said. Yeah. What was that? What was on his phone? A lot of shots. Got anything for me? Shot. Shot. Shot. Shot. That's what it felt like. It felt like, you know, everyone's wanting you see those boats that those super rich old go on out in the sea. And there's just like 30 fishing lines. Oh, yeah, yeah. And then they got like workers standing there telling them, this one, you get my fat ass over through the entire thing. Sure. That's what that text message kind of looked like. OK. That's why I was scanning it out. I'm like, oh, that's a shot. That's a shot. That's a shot. And there was a lot of names that I definitely knew. And I'm like, that could be a cool thing if that was to happen. And then he comes on and goes, we don't know anything. Yeah, nothing's going on. Got any more for me? Ain't no stuff. I don't know. Everything. Ain't no stuff. Well, now that him, the superpowers have combined. Yeah. Him, Rappaport, Palisero. They meet everywhere. Field Yates, I think. Is Field an insider? But have they combined? I think a little bit. Yes, I think they have. Shifty's retweeting those guys' stuff. He's never doing that before. I think Shifty's giving his stuff. Hey, I got this. I'm going to gift it to you. You can break it. No, they're meeting every morning, giving everything to each other. I do think Shifty this many years into the game, I think he probably only knows one way, which is like, go, go, go. Rapp, same way. But I think Rapp has been very open about like, hey, would be honored to be a part of Shifty's team. I don't think Shifty has ever publicly come out and been like, can't wait to have these guys part of my team. Because I think Shifty is an actual machine. Shifty fucking hates it. No, I think at this stage, I think at this stage, I think he'll be excited to add members to team. Like, I think he'd be happy to bring members of team. And because it's not like he's ever going to be viewed as not the guy. Right. And he's already proven, I think. And I think that's what bothered him is I think he does want to add people to the team, but it was the notion that this is his heir apparent. Like, this is the guy that's going to replace him. And he obviously is not thinking about stopping anytime soon. Hates it. Yeah. No, I think it is forced upon him. And I think now he's like, how do we make this a better game? Yeah, I'll play ball. He's the old franchise quarterback. You draft the younger for exactly. You are right. But I'll play. I'll play. I'll be a team player. All right. We will see you tomorrow night for the draft spectacular 7pm. It starts with the football town. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice about change your life. Goodbye. All right. Clock's were off a second. I think I nailed it. Lot of activity brewing behind. Oh yeah. Lot happening. Big time. I'm being told in my ear, how long is this? Lot of that. Okay. You know, because the music was starting. Sure. So I assume somebody was like, hey, can you not do the music? And they're like, no, actually kind of music. That's kind of a thing. It's not just music. I guess it's going to be on that stage. I think if we were to wait two minutes and 30 seconds, we would potentially get something that I'm sure they do not want us to show. Okay. Okay. Okay. We need to get out of here. We can't tip what it's going to be. I don't think we can tip the open of the fucking. Yeah. That's probably they have almost started at about three times. To Brett Michaels. They were playing some a little bigger. All right. You're not showing it. Foxy, we're getting out of here. Okay. We're out of here. That's not possible. Back to Mark. Foxy was like, oh, we got a really good shot of this. Foxy, he wants to tip the whole draft. Foxy, show the shots that we have of the stage. Be Mac. I know you're probably watching this. We could get the whole thing. We could get the whole thing. Yeah. That would really do it. We're not going to do it. What I'm going to do, we are lucky and thankful to be here. Hey, somebody tell Oni or Oni, whatever the hell his name is. We are very lucky and thankful to be here. Okay. And on that note, we're not tipping shit. No. Okay. We're going to get, we've come this far. We need not. I want to see what it is tomorrow night. Thank you, Shrager. Tomorrow night, draft spectacular starts at 7 p.m. with the showing a debut premiere of the football town. A, I'm going to say it's maybe the nicest thing I've ever been. I mean, it is. It was so cool to watch like the first five minutes and the way people are talking about it. I think it'll be something that'll be well worth your time. And also a nice prep for what's about to happen. The next generation of NFL stars are going to be drafted on this stage tomorrow night after the open that has a lot of really cool stuff happening. Roger Godel will come out here. We're going to celebrate the hell out of ball. We can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living. We will see you then for myself, D-butt, AJ, con man, con man, good to see you with a soul. Yeah. As we saw you on steel curtain without one. Yeah. That was alarming footage. I did not see that before. It was happy both times. The first time the first time was a little worse. I was concerned because I knew it's glass. Yeah. And you was concerned about that. It was a little quicker, but yeah. Yeah. It was tough. I mean, that's Kennywood. 40 seconds here. Ty, Tyrone, truck. Great work, truck. Very truck. Good boys. ESPN crew. Thank you so much for setting this all up. Barcode and then Faso. Miss Karen's here doing logistics for life. And tomorrow coach Cowher will join us. AQ Shippley will join us. Surprises will happen. Dreams will come true. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. My change of life. We're gonna sing together. Team on me. Let's have a hell of a week here in Pittsburgh. Perfect. Come down and see us if you're in time. We appreciate you. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye.