Off-Air Show with Felger // April 8, 2026

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I'll just start with this one. Masters this weekend. Would you rather have lifetime tickets to all four days or play Augusta once? Is this really a question? What would you rather have? Lifetime tickets to all four days or play Augusta once? Tickets. Murray, if you had a choice, you could have masters tickets all four days for lifetime, or just get to play Augusta once. What would it be? Oh, just play Augusta once. Oh my God, it's not even fucking close. I don't want tickets really anything. I don't need tickets for anything. Yeah, I don't want to. My days are like going to stuff or over, so you can name just about anything. I don't want to go to it. But I would like to play Augusta once. Sure, just to say I did. I would do it, but I am not. I've been doing this a million times. If I don't play Augusta, I'm fine. I don't care. I'm not a bucket list guy. I'm not like a FOMO guy. Oh my God, I wish I could do that. There's very few things I feel that way about. Very, very few. And playing Augusta is not one of them. Like, for example, if I could play Augusta, but I had to go with some epic asshole and spend the weekend, or that would not be fun. Fuck it. I don't need to play Augusta. I'd rather go somewhere else with people I like and enjoy my day. I don't need to play Augusta. You're a your dinnertime laboratory you got over there. Just caught my eye. What are you eating that you're using soy sauce and Parmesan cheese on at the same time? Collarized cheese and soy. Yeah, those are too real. Oh, no, no, no. Cauliflower right here. That dish was cauliflower rice, chopped avocado, lamb meat, guero meat. Okay. And soy and Parmesan. Shoot the cheese and soy though. Cheese and soy. I don't know. There's the two things that wouldn't go together for me. Try it. Okay. Cheese and soy, Parmesan. Okay. Soy. All right. 100%. Yeah. 100%. So I thought another lesson could be learned from this whole Diana Roussini, Mike Vrabel thing. And I said this on the air. See the one photo to me that was the one that was like, you're not getting out of that one. That's the hand holding one. And I said, you could you could talk to 100 women, pull 100 women and say, what's the one one that was the real one that was the worst? It's the hand holding. And I learned this the hard way early on. 20s just was into this girl for banging. And I made the crucial mistake of holding her hand out once one night. And so, you know, the things you do to get done. And I kind of knew this might be a bad move, but whatever. You know, we're having a time we held hands a little bit banged up. Boy. So when I broke up with her, or just was like essentially saying like, hey, we're good here a few weeks later, I got read the riot act like you nobody's business. Saying you held my hand. Oh yeah. It was a whole thing. So for those, those of you young, young bucks out there that it might be viewing this and maybe you, you're just out there to get done. Don't hold hands unless you're serious. That might sound stupid to some of you. I understand it did to me at the time, but that was a real life lesson I picked up. Interesting. Do not hold hands with someone unless you're going to get serious with them. Because it turns out that is a major, major issue holding it. The Beatles wrote the song for a reason. I want to hold your hand. There was a reason that all those women in the 60s were the idea of holding a hand with the man that you're into boy. Oh, that's the most intimate. And so yeah, boy, oh, that was just like berated for the holding the hands on the rooftop of the bungalow that can only be accessed through the single room. Right. Yeah. But that was the one photo. I was looking, I was like, you know, not that you can really explain any of these away. If you're going to be in a pool with someone like that, like you'd want some other dudes around or other friends, you could maybe kind of explain that away. But once I saw the interlocked fingers, good luck with that to the both of your spouses. Because you are fucked. What else? Any other leftovers from that story, Murray? No, that was really the main one. I just, you know, he kind of comes on and I like him and I thought I've met him, but he, you know, I just like how he's carried himself. But for a guy to come in, and that's why I said, Belichick never really carried himself as like, I'm a good guy. He just was what he was a little sneaky, you know, obviously, but he carried that. Vrable came in and preached family and family values and all of that. And not to mention always purposely picking Karen. And when he was down in Tennessee, picking a female reporter down there first, there's like a whole piece that ran prior to the Super Bowl on that. And that's great. But if you're one of those women reporters now, don't you kind of say like, well, all right, this is all well and good and that you're giving us more shine, but you just might have stepped out on your wife. Like it all kind of feels fraudulent. Yeah. Well, I don't know how you don't look at him a little differently. Yeah. Again, we're human. We make mistakes. Doesn't make him the worst person in the world. You're not saying throw him in jail, but it just sort of preach all that kind of thing. That's just, he was really practicing it, you know, he was family values. And he is really on a pedestal and really sort of just like one of the football coach Murray, you know, can run for governor. Like we all know with Belichick around here all those years, or you win as a football coach, you're like lionized as a politician or a leader of men and a leader of society and a leading figure in town. Like that's how a football coach gets portrayed. And so when you're, you know, canoodling with a reporter in the hot tub in the rooftop of the bungalow, it's like, Oh, you know, like it's just, I don't know how you don't have a little bit of that. Of course you do. And if I was being honest, you do. Of course. And if I was a down the middle female reporter, I would be so pissed. I'd be like, you know, it's hard enough for us out there. And most Neanderthal dudes probably think like, how'd we get that scoop? We slept our way to the top. So on and so forth. Yeah. And now this, you're like, Oh, come on, you're just making this so much more difficult on me. Just quickly, Robbie buckets, one of the producers in NBC Sports Boston, obviously, obviously with you and then on the VST texting and to say incredible analysis today. Thank you, Robbie. I was saying earlier, the only time a man and woman interlock fingers on both hands and they aren't at the altar is when they're both deciding whether or not to make the bad decision drunk outside a bar, one trying to coax the other into coming home. Other than that, zero humans do the double interlock. Yeah. The double interlock is time to get done. It's a universally known George writes in big job. How much money would it take to send you to the moon on Artemis to? There is no amount. I don't I would never do it. Me neither. Yeah. I as much as I'm interested in it, I have no need to go. That's another thing. Like, I'm not a bucket list guy. Don't you want to go to space and look at the earth? Nope. I'll follow it. I think it's cool as shit. I'm into it. You could have. I do not need to fucking go to space. Why do I need to go to space to that comment or you could say a cruise to go to South America to get on a cruise line. There's no amount. Zero. I would never do it. Zero. I would never ever do it. Zero point zero. What the hell was the other thing I wanted to bring up? Son of a bitch. Damn it. I had something else. I'll figure it out in a second. Oh, well, while you're looking, so I'm going to put this on socials and whatnot. I'm going to tell the story of when I went to Alison chains unplugged how I came to go. What happened? Some ins and outs of the show. Well, anyway, that show is 30 years to the day on Friday, April 10th, 1996 broadcast on MTV broadcast and MTV on July or maybe a couple of months later, the album came out in July or June or July of 96. But yeah, one of the last flights out of Logan for those that may not remember people said, Oh, we saw snow the other day. We got like six inches of snow on April 10th, 1996. I remember they was able to get out of there. Anyway, do you have a favorite unplugged? Is it Pearl Jam? Do you like the Pearl Jam unplugged? I mean, no, I don't have a favorite one. I don't. It's pro choice on his arm and he gets up and almost falls off the store. That Pearl Jam. One's good. Yeah. Is it? So I've never seen it. I've seen clips of it. Oh, it's good. I don't really remember the show. I can't remember any other bands. I mean, the Nirvana one's probably the top one. Yeah, I remember the one that might be their best album, frankly. The Alison chains one's phenomenal. But boy, some of them like they did. I think the first unplugged ever might have been Rod Stewart like early on before they started doing those acts of the time. They were kind of corny. Fella Graham with you on pasta and turnovers, but all top five scores in the HL are top 10 in turnovers. Most turnovers in the league, McKinnon, Celebrini, pasta, McDavid and Nisas. I can't pronounce the last name. Let's see what the Carolina anyway. Oh, Nietzsche. I watch McKinnon play. I watch posture knock play. McKinnon stronger on the puck. Okay. So I don't know. I've said this a million times. I don't know how they log turnovers in the NHL because I'll watch a game where posture knock is given the puck away all fucking game all game. He's given the puck away and I look at the excursion. He's got two, two giveaways. So I don't know what technically qualifies as a giveaway or not. I think it's must be very loose, but just use your eyes. You are you really going to say that posture knock and Nate McKinnon are the same in terms of puck control and controlling the puck? They're not. No, no, they're not. So it's a Colin Kennedy in producing today. Hey, Colin. Thanks for the email. This was one I wanted to touch on. So the MBTA charging $80 for train tickets to Gillette for World Cup games. It's usually $17 on Patriot game days. It is a gouge, but he asks, do you have any interest in attending a World Cup game? Well, I had the opportunity. Our buddy Dana, my friend Dana, the pilot, he's the only person. Have you asked anyone if they've got tickets to this thing? Cause it was basically impossible. You had to win a lottery. Now the tickets themselves were face, I think starting at 350. Him and his wife hit the lottery and bought a slew of these tickets. I think they have seven matches that they got tickets to. And I told him, I was like, when push comes to shove, I don't want to take a Tuesday off in June to go down to this. The match he has here is England Ghana, I think it is. He listed those tickets. He's going to clear. They're going to clear over 10 grand on selling these tickets. And he's still going to go to three matches. And I told him, why, why are you going to these three? Cause he said, actually I could get the most money for it's Germany and Germany. And I think Curacao in Kansas city or something like that. And he's like, I could get 2,200 each for these. He has four tickets. I'm like, you crazy. Just go to one of these matches in Atlanta. It's a quick jump from Florida, Atlanta. Go to that one, sell the rest of this and go on a sick vacation, you know, in a year. But oh man, I love that kind of stuff. When you're able to like flip something for extra money, I'm so envious of them. All these tickets, you know, he spent probably four grand total, but he's going to end up making 10, 12 grand on these. Oh, I love that kind of story. I didn't need to go that bad. Once he told me what he could sell them for him, like, Oh, fuck that. Sell them. I do want to go. I've talked to a million times. And again, if I don't, if I don't do it, I'll die a happy man. I don't need to, but I'd rather go to an English Premier League match. Same in England than a World Cup match in the US. If I don't, if I'm going to do it, I need to see it in Europe or something like that. I don't need to see another you, another ballgame in a US stadium with other US fans. I know there's going to be people traveling from, but you know what I mean? I want to be in the belly of the beast of a European environment with a European match. I don't need to see a World Cup match in the US. Got some texts here and I'll just, on you, Big Jim, will you ever eat a fish sandwich from McDonald's again? Oh yeah. Something happened to you with a fish sandwich. This has actually happened to me twice. So I posted this photo some weeks back, three or four weeks back. I got, got McDonald's, got a filet of fish, love a filet of fish. It's one of my all time favorites. I brought it home, Mike. I still might have the photo in here. Anyway, I opened it and it was kind of one big FU. The, the, the patty and the slice of cheese were three quarters off the bottom bun. It was just rude, really. I still ate it because I'm a pig, but yes, absolutely. No, but it's offensive that that happened to me. It's happened to me twice. It happened to me on the, in 95 off 95 in Connecticut. I was going to say this happened to me in 1995. I don't know. You're that good of a member. No, a few years ago, you log it. I went to the McDonald's that's on the rest stop on 95 in Connecticut. Same thing there. And it happened at this local one. It pissed me off, but no, I'll keep eating them. They're delicious. I love the filet of fish is one of the great delicacies in fast food. Uh, Texter writes in, Hey, Felga, who do you think will be the first beat reporter to bite the bullet and ask the question to Vrable about Racini? Who do you think that will be? Volum? Uh, this is what, this is why you need the news guys by Rin Burnett. I think he's retired. Isn't he? Yeah. But this is when you need the news guys because they don't give a fuck. They're not the beat guys have to face Vrable every day and go to the stadium every day. And yeah, I can see they're going to tread lightly, but I wouldn't be surprised if Reese did it honestly. Um, but just cause I think he'll, I don't know who's in TV now that would do it for the, at these stations. It doesn't matter. Just send a news guy, send a news guy, let him ask the question that all the local beat guys are absolved. Uh, this was another one I found interesting news story. So this was in Collins email news story on Cape air plane door opening mid flight on trip from Boston to Ntuket Cape air plane on its way from Boston to Ntuket, Massachusetts after the door open up mid flight, the plane landed safely without further problems. I saw some of the photos. One woman was like, yay, the door is open. I, I would not be that calm. I would have lost my mind if that happened. Yeah. So then it's obviously, I think some of their new planes are pressurized, but the Sessons aren't pressurized. So it really doesn't, you know what I mean? It's not like you're in danger of getting sucked out or anything. Yeah. So it's not a pressurized cabin, but I'm surprised they don't blow open more often, frankly. And I'm not talking about like the jets. I'm talking about the Sessons. Yeah, they have because some of them are old and it's not exactly, you know, a NASA crew down there, you know, closing the door and right put them together. You would think stuff like that would happen more than it, than it does. But no, that one doesn't freak me out jets only for me. That's why I, I would not want to get on one of those kind of puddle jumper planes or whatever. Um, all right. Thoughts on the Pats possibly playing the Seahawks on opening night of the NFL. I, well, I don't love it, but that's a team obviously coming off, you know, the Super Bowl high. There's been some personnel changes there. Kenneth Walker gone. If you, you might want them earlier than later is the point. So I could talk myself into that, but doesn't that feel like championship night? That team usually doesn't lose. I know the Patriots did when they celebrated here and played Kansas State. They got waxed tough spot. Yeah. Tough spot travel across the country on a big night for them where they've had all that time to prepare. Like if you're going to draw Seattle, aren't you better off catching them in the middle of a, yeah, look ahead week, like they, you know, stay out in LA, and then you play because I think they have the Rams on the schedule or one of those LA, there are the charters again. So you don't, you bang out those West coast trips, those a couple of weeks in a row, and then you just stay out there. I'd rather it be part of something like that. First round by Felger. Would you ever go back in time to see the debt at Woodstock? No, no, it's not a full concert with a half a million people. And no, did the dead play Woodstock 69? They did. I guess I didn't know that they did. No, I would go back and pick a show in the mid eighties, which was my favorite time. And when I started going and listening and then I would go back and pick one of those shows, what's the go to show you listen to when you put on some dad? It varies. I don't really have one. I try and we have the serious channel, right? They do. They replay shows and they, yes. I'll listen to a lot of debt and company, frankly. I think that a more consistent take. Let's see. What else do these animals have? Anything? Um, Byron Burnett passed away. I thought it was, Oh, I thought it was just retirement. It was Jesus retirement. There was something like that. Oh, that's, oh, that's a bummer. Felger. Did you watch national championship? Any thoughts or don't care to discuss? I am proud to say I did not watch one second of that tournament. Same. The only, oh no, the tournament I did, but the championship game I didn't, I watched the red socks that night. The only thing I saw, I was in a bar taco place bar restaurant watching the Bruins on my phone when the entire bar went, Oh, and I looked up in a Yukon Duke game and it was Yukon Duke. And I'm like, Oh, I didn't even realize that was on. I was watching the Bruins on my phone. I went right back to watching the Bruins on my phone. Maybe I looked up for one replay because everyone was losing their mind. I'm like, I still don't care. You can't make me care about college basketball. You can if I bet on it, but I didn't bet on it. And it's, if one of my schools, Wisconsin Marquette, I'll watch, I guess, but other than that, you can't make me care about that shit. I just don't care. Yeah. The champion took me out and watch one second of, and I was, you know, it was a bitch fest on my usual text chain and my buddies are, how are you not watching this because I want to watch the Red Sox crap all over themselves. How can you, it was actually kind of compelling to how they've started this season, but you want to watch them trip over their dicks and see if they can figure it the hell out. And the thing about Yukon is like, I really don't care. They could have won. I don't care. Like there's definitely teams and it's not a big list, but I'll root against the Montreal Canadians. I care about the Montreal Canadians. I hate them, but if they're on, I will watch and root against them. Boston College, Boston College is on TV and anything. I will root against them. I care. I hate them, but I care. Yukon, go ahead and win. I just, I just do not care about fucking Yukon. And I just do not care about college basketball. So when you combine Yukon and college basketball, it's just like a total tune out for me. I college is just tough for me. Not really is not care. Let's see. What else do we have at Collins email? I'll look here. Do you have any more thoughts on the, on the Artemis Murray? Do you still not care at all? Yeah, I just don't. I mean, it's great that they're coming back. I'm glad it worked out well, but I just, I'm not, it's just, I don't really care. I'd be lying otherwise if I said otherwise. Yet you're not a denier. Like you're not one of these people that no, no, no, no, they landed on the moon in the first place. No, I think it happened. It's an incredible feat, especially if you, I mean, if you go to the Kennedy museum, I felt, wow, I felt like we were just in Dorchester again, go to the Kennedy museum and you see they have one of those pods on display that they were, you know, that the NASA was using in the sixties. It, it's, I get claustrophobic even looking at the things so that they did it then. I mean, again, it's an incredible feat of mankind that we've achieved these kinds of things. I just, I've said before, I think there's bigger problems down here that we should be worrying about. Why do you think this is the one moon landing take that I've just haven't expressed yet? So I'll do it here. Well, why do you think we did land on the moon and that was all legit? Why do you think it's not a hoax? Um, why do I think it's not a hoax? I think I just choose to believe it more than anything else. I don't know if I can explain it beyond that. Okay. So here's my, I can understand why people look at it and say this was one big Hollywood production and Stanley Kubrick. Yeah, they hired Stanley Kubrick to produce it. Yeah, I got it. So, and it served our national interests and security and everything to win the space race against the Russians. It was the biggest TV audience in the history of the world. So it couldn't fail. Like I, I get all that, but here's my answer to that. And that is, it's been 50 years, right? You understand that's 50 years of the space program that have quite literally, I think the best that humanity has to offer. The, I think the space program is a combination of just about our smartest people on the planet and some of our bravest people on the planet, meaning a lot of those astronauts are former military pilots. So the bravery taken to be a military member or fly, fly in combat or fly in hostile territory, the bravery that it takes to do that. And then these space missions are really, really, really risky. Like the Artemis was one in 50. There is a chance of failure, catastrophic failure that was one in 50. So you have to be incredibly brave to do that. That's on the, that's on the astronaut side. The whole other side is the science behind it, the astrophysicists and the orbital mechanics and those people are just about the smartest people we have to offer. Okay. There's also in that group of the brave and the smart who are contrarians over the past 50 years of the most brilliant people on the planet, combined with the most brave people on the planet, there have been many in both of those groups that would love nothing more than to look at the history and say, that actually didn't happen. And they have the smarts to do it. No one knows what no one has ever done it. No one. So if we've had five decades of the brightest, smartest, bravest, most intelligent people looking at this and studying, because they do, they must, you study the moon landing, you spuddy, you study all the stuff that happened in Apollo. None of those people have said, this doesn't add up yet. You have figured it out on the internet. I'm supposed to believe you and not all those people in NASA for 50 years. Fuck off. Like, I mean, really, like, give me a break. Though the reason it happened is because no one with any credibility or backing has called it out. It's just internet. Yeah, no fair point. I mean, wouldn't, wouldn't there have been one high level scientists who ran the numbers or looked at the video and said, this actually didn't happen because of bulu. No, no one's done it. No people who've done it are fucking assholes on the internet. So I'm going to believe you and not all those scientists, never mind the ex military people who are now astronauts who would love, I'm sure love of them. I'm sure a lot of them would love to say, yeah, I went to aeronautics school and then I went through the NASA program and we studied all this and I looked at and said, no, actually, no, there's no way we did this. Not one has done it. So now the Kennedy assassination. Now that I think something's up, but that said, that's different. The first time I went to Dealey Plaza, even if you stand on that X, I could make that shot and you go up there and the car does come around slow, which again, curious that the car does slow around coming around the corner. He was definitely up there. And he definitely had the gun. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I do think there were more than one shooter, but for years I'm like, no, there was multiple shooters in it. And I do think regulation or crossfire, but you do look at it and be like, I could probably get off two or three shots with the 30 odd six bolt action up there. Like it's not the point is you stand on the the exit, Dealey Plaza, you look up and ain't that far away, you know, growing up reading about it, they make it, they make it seem like this nearly impossible. No, no, no, that's a, that's definitely it's a doable shot. Oh yeah, definitely, especially for a guy that was a, you know, a, a, but a marksman. The most suspicious thing in that was he then got killed by a mobster. Well, right. Yeah. What would Jack Ruby was some sort of political activist or it's like, he was a hit man. Yeah. So a hit man took him out before he was able to really talk to any like, so like that one was the one that the, if you're ever bored, you probably wouldn't do this, but those of you that haven't seen this because on YouTube that you can actually, I don't know how crazy that people would be able to hang on to this. Maybe it was someone that worked at CBS or ABC NBC at the time, but Mike, you can find a almost four hour block of what was on TV, watching it get interrupted on all those three major networks at the time on YouTube. Like once they break in during the daytime soaps to, you know, special news bulletin from Dallas and you just watch it. I watched it took me weeks, but I watched the whole thing, at least the CBS one. It's just fascinating to watch in almost real time. What it must have felt like watching this for our parents at the time or grandparents, because those were the three channels. That's all you had. Not everyone had TV at the time too. Yeah. My parents always talked about that as like the cre maybe the craziest thing that they lived, lived through that and 68 big Jim, would you rather go to a Bruins game seven in Montreal or a Red Sox game seven at Yankee stadium? Oh, not even close. The Bruins game seven Montreal. Me too. Yeah. That's just that's not even a any playoff. He's infinitely better than playoff baseball anyway. And I like playoff baseball in both cities are fun. No, I don't know. I'd rather go to Montreal. That's not a bad barn either. Have you been there? To the Bell Center or one? Yeah, many, many, many, many times. Do you ever go to the old forum? I didn't know. So it's a bummer when I first, you know, I went a couple of times in the late 80s. It wasn't totally the way it used to be, but I, it was still, I think I wore a sport coat like you wore. Oh really? Yeah. They would wear sport coats at the old forum and it was changing when I went. So it wasn't totally like it was in the old days, but I want to say I wore a sport coat because you wore, you got it dressed up to go to the forum. That was a thing. I think I've mentioned on here before that I got, I was, I'm glad that I got to go to the old Nassau Coliseum because that was a throwback that felt like going over to the old guy, the Nassau Coliseum in Long Island. So it was like thunderdome people acting like it was 1988. It was incredible. Guys saying the most offensive stuff to big women. Oh, I laughed my ass off that night. I felt like I was 10 years old at the old garden with my dad again. And, and, and there's a, another one, the textual points out about the moon landing. Russia would have said we didn't do it. They, the Soviets had a lot of incentives to say you faked it because there was a massive space race and not even the Soviets said we faked it. So it's like, no, listen, the, the, the, the one thing I would say, did they dick around with the telecast? Okay. That I don't know. That I don't know. And that the scientists wouldn't know the military, the scientists and the military people, they'll give a fuck about the TV show. I mean, like they care about the orbital mechanics and the technology and how we did it and how it performed. And that shit's been studied for 50 years. No one in the scientific community or the military, uh, astronaut community has looked at all of that data and said we didn't do it, but would they know if they dicked around with the broadcast? I don't know if they would. So I don't care about the broadcast. Like, uh, but I've seen other things that is that poke holes in all the people doubting that the telecast and the shadows on the moon and this and that it's all fucking bullshit. It, it's, it's brutal and it's dangerous because of all the misinformation that the internet has spawned. Like it's just, you can just get people to believe something because they want to, because of internet clips. Yeah. It's fucking scary. You know what? I think the moon landing is a big one when it comes to that. All right. I'm done on that. Um, do anything else? Um, are you taking any April vacate? Well, no, your kids are Michael. Do you have any advice on visiting the World War two museum in New Orleans going soon? Oh, just go give yourself at least a two hour block. Um, it's one of the great museums in the country. I've been twice. I love it. It's an incredible museum, but this is what I would say to anyone about any museum. I think people get the idea. Oh, it's amazing. You got to go. It's still a museum. It's not a roller coaster. You know what I mean? Like, I, I, I, if you're into it, if you're into history, I think you'd like it though, but I think people sort of expect some sort of like thrill ride. And it's like, no, it's a museum. You walk through exhibits and you read plaques and you read write ups next to some sort of, you know, demonstration and some sort of presentation with artifacts. And then you go to the next room and you do it again. And it's a museum. It's not a roller coaster. So don't like get your hopes up because it'll be something different or transformative. It's just really well done for that period of history. It is. Yeah. And some, so, you know, I recommended someone go to the 9 11 museum once. I think it's a really incredibly well done museum. It is heavy as hell. Great. But this person, my friend was pissed at me afterwards because they're like, you didn't tell me it was going to be that sad and that they, I think they've since changed this, I might be wrong, but you know, used to walk through and you'd hear the calls like people and you know, this my friend was really, you know, taken aback by this. And I was like, well, would you expect like I told you, like it's real heavy? Yeah. I mean, but I thought they were tasteful in the 9 11 museum and some of the things they did like you, the, the piece where people were throwing themselves off the building. And when the fireman came into the lobby, you could hear the thump, the bodies hitting. They put that in the corner of a room or a space where you had to work your way back there. Yes. Right. Want to watch that. Yeah. And want to see it. It wasn't like the thing that you're talking about where you heard the calls as you walked through the hall and you couldn't really avoid it. You had to go through that spot. No, this, there were some parts of the 9 11 museum you had to sort of get yourself back into the corner. Yes. And so it was the calls were unavoidable and my friend, my friend, and I found that sort of traumatizing. And I think they've since changed that. I might be wrong, but I remember reading being like people that like, this is too much. Like, well, the calls weren't that I didn't feel the towers been hit. You know, like, I mean, I remembered vaguely, but no, the one that stood out to me was the video of the firefighters in the lobby with the thumping on the outside of the bodies hitting the, but that they didn't put that in your face. But listen, you go to the Holocaust museum, you go to the 9 11 museum. Like what do you go to the ones? I mean, I'll tell you, for me, the ones that I've seen in this country, the heaviest is the Oklahoma city. Oh yeah. Yeah. And then you get to the little chairs. It's not great, but it's, but well done. Like it's in the tours tough because you can also listen to the people in the building. They have recordings when the explosion happened. These poor people just regular going about their work day. Yeah, that one's heavy, but really well done. So I guess it's weird sometimes recommending certain museums to certain people because they again, they think people like, Oh, it's like a ride. It's definitely not a ride. It's a somber quiet. And you got to be able to read and want to read. A lot of people don't like reading, you know, and you have to be able to. So my wife, not a good plus one for museums. So I, no, I've been three times to that World War two museum because I dragged her and about a half hour in. It's like, you can, I can feel the tapping of the foot. It's a lot of looking at and I'm like, you know, you can go back to the hotel. Like I love this shit. Like I want to sit here and take my time and read. All right. I get it. You want to have brunch. Who doesn't want, doesn't want a mimosa. Let's try to get rid of the night before I hang over from New Orleans. I get it. You know, it's a lot going on here. Colin, thank you for your help. We appreciate it. Thanks, call. Okay. Next Wednesday, same time, all fair show. Murray, thanks again. See you. Bye. Bye.