Mike Vrabel and Dianna Russini Allegations // Jayson Tatum’s Return to MSG // James Hagens Won’t Make NHL Debut on Saturday - 4/10 (Hour 2)

We have a show to do today. The whole new acronym thing drives me every man. Can we call him by his name? A shelter in man. A 90-85, the sports hub. Let's go. Those pictures are totally taken out of context. We're with six other people on a vacation. Mm-hmm. Where are the other people? Which then begs to mind, huh, what's one of the biggest off-season stories in the NFL? And it's the possibility that AJ Brown's going to be traded from the Philadelphia Eagles to the New England Patriots. Well, who's the only reporter that's really been reporting that for the last month and a half? Diana Rusini. Interesting. Non-stop. Where would Diana Rusini have gotten the inside information about New England wanting to trade for AJ Brown? Huh. Huh. Inquiring minds. Oh, that's right. The guy she's allegedly banging. Right. No, might be feeding her that type of information. I think one of their spouses might have had a private detective trail on them. Why was somebody standing on their private bungalow rooftop taking photographs of these two knuckles? Well, you know why. You know why. You know why. Because one of the spouses might have hired a private detective to do exactly what he or she just did. And take everything. That last piece that Carton was talking about, where those pictures come from, I guess there's more clarity or at least a report anyway. Ryan Glasschbegel and Michael McCarthy of Front Office Sports report that the photos were shopped before being published by the New York Post on Tuesday. TMZ was also approached per the report by an anonymous tipster regarding photos of Rable with an unidentified woman. The tipster who was not from a known paparazzi or photo agency requested a summon the four figures and did not know who Roussini was recognized. Rable, the post declined comment to Front Office Sports regarding how it obtained the photos, including whether it paid for the images. Well, obviously they did. So does this do you still think it was a PI or someone calling in a dime or it was just a rando who recognized Rable recognized he was in an uncompromising position and decided to profit on it? I mean, sounds like a rando. But the fact that he recognized Rable, like again, I rule out nothing. Okay, people cover their tracks. So it sounds like it could have been a rando and they recognize Rable, you know, which is fine. And I'll tell you what else leads me to believe it's a rando. Four figures. Like five grand. Thousand bucks. Yeah, right. I would call it from more than that. I mean, I would ask for, you know, 50 right out of the game. We're not talking about super famous people there. It's an NFL coach and an NFL reporter who was unidentified at the time, but Rable was known in the photos from this tipster, according to what you said from Front Office Sports, correct? Yes. So what this leads me to believe is the PI hired potentially by Rable's wife. He's out doing all the time. I want to catch him doing. He's away. Hire a PI. Here he is with a woman. Oh, people now look at the photo and find out that the woman is Diana Roussini. Again, Rable was named in the photos by the anonymous source that reached out to TMZ, knew who Rable was. How does he? Because he's following Rable because he was hired by the wife. That's my gut feeling on it. Hmm. Interesting theory. I hadn't thought of it in those terms. So maybe it's a maybe listen. He's always out doing. It's my time to catch him. I hire the PI. He's out in Arizona. Click, click, got the photos. Is the tip tip off just that it was a professional telephoto lens from that rooftop? You know, again, that rooftop photo, I don't think you get that with an iPhone based on talking to a buddy who does some side work as a cameraman knows this kind of stuff. He said there's no doubt in his mind that that was taken with a high high end telephoto telephotic lens. What are you saying? Well, the listening to the photography class on the midday show today, they apparently think you can take it with an iPhone. Maybe you can. I don't know. I have no clue. I have no idea. But Murray's theory is a good one. In other words, look, I told you, I rule out nothing. I'm not totally buying in that it was some hack sitting by the pool saying, yeah, there's Vrabel. I'm going to make a grand. To me, it should have been a little bit more than that. I don't think you go in asking for five grand. I think you go in asking for 50. So there's another photo circulating today of Vrabel and her having a beer in India at the combine. Do we know that that one's legit? I don't know. Really? People might think it's fake. Well, I don't know. I don't know if that's from this past combine or if it's from the past. I don't know. That one seems semi unverified from what I see on these internet streets. Okay. So we got unverified there. But that one and something else just occurred to me because we've gotten a few calls on there's this email, adoka, and you know, is he going to suffer the same fate as email, adoka, and you know, some people think, well, you're going easy on him, but you took down adoka on this. So adoka has come up and a mass made this point yesterday and others have that there's a big difference because adoka was a workplace situation and this is not, which is true. Yeah. But you know what? I do want to point out this isn't in the workplace. I know what you mean, but it's kind of close. I understand. But like, don't we have to admit it's, it's not a Patriots employee, but it's sort of the next step down from a Patriots employee. In other words, she's in the workplace. Yeah, that's, that's fair. She's just not a team employee, but then when you're a head coach in the NFL, you work alongside journalists, you work with an alongside journalists and it's part of your job. She's league adjacent to it's adjacent. She's closing in on workplace. You know, it's not quite, you know, not in the stadium, but you know, he's conducting business. He's conducting company business with not a vendor, but you know what I mean? It's like the next step. It's closing in on it. And if allegedly or supposedly he's running around with someone who's adjacent, what do you know? Like all I'm saying is there's more meaning to those photos with him and Diana Rossini than if it was him with the girl work in the front desk of that hotel. Yes. So I guess in, in, in deference to a doka or that's that side of the street, it's closer to a doka than not. I mean, there's some linkage there. That's all I'm trying to tell you. He's, he's still crap in where he eats. In other words, I'm not, yeah, it's just not on the plate like Udoka was. Down the hall, but that, that expression, don't crap where he eat. He's still doing it. And it does show a lack of something on his part. So we didn't deserve that, that total free pass. It's not a workplace thing. It's close. That's totally fair. Just keep that in mind. All right. Back to your phones. Here's Dan in the car on this, I believe. Go ahead, Dan. Yeah. So I find it rich in summer commenting on this big, brable situation where a female member of the media may be getting inside information as a result of a personal or possibly romantic relationship with a member of the Patriots coaching staff. I mean, we here in Blossom have had a much more visible example of this in our own backyard from a year now. We have a very present member of the local media and a much publicized romantic relationship with a member of the Patriots coaching staff. That member of the media is routinely sitting on shows, panels and segments talking about the Patriots locker room, assessments of potential personnel moves, the coaching staff, etc. It doesn't take a genius to understand that that particular person has access to information behind the scenes that others wouldn't because of a personal relationship. This brable issue is not a new topic about Patriots coaches and female members of the media. So it's a fair thing to bring up. There's the ethical part of it in journalism, which frankly, the part that really strikes me is the business part of it. In other words, there's newspapers to sell. Like your business, the ethics of journalism. How about the business, the dying business of journalism? You have to sell a paper, you have to get views, you have to get clicks as they say nowadays. And the news outlets that aren't touching this, I want to say, do you want to sell a newspaper or not? We had this conversation on TV last night, Maz. If this happened when I was covering the Patriots, I think our editor would make me do something on this. Oh, I'd say the probability, yes. And if not me, and then it occurred to me, well, maybe it wouldn't be, maybe it'd be Gail and Laura, maybe it'd be the inside trackgales. Oh, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Like this would be a good inside track story. Definitely. But the Herald. Oh, they'd have been all over it. The Herald would sick someone on it. You know, they'd put someone on this story and they'd pound it to try and sell newspapers. Sure. I don't see anyone even doing that. Like we're so, the media is so in the bag of these teams that you won't even try and capitalize this to help your business. This is what we're here for. And that almost disappoints me more than the ethical part of it. Like Jesus, people care about this. The stories get read. And you know, the baby fan will say, no one cares about this. Lie. It's not true. You see where the traffic goes and what stories are getting clicked on and what things are being listened to. You can see it. This story resonates as people are interested in the story. And you're not going to capitalize on that. You want to sell a newspaper or not? Apparently not. Well, look, again, to me, I focus on the news part of it. That what now you don't have to put it on page one. If you don't want, I mean, then I wouldn't even do it. Okay. No, no. So I'm just saying, but, but how do you not? This is now not a matter of public record. No, look, the world has changed. Okay. But papers used to be or news outlets used to be public records. That's in part what they were created for. So you're telling me that nobody that works for an entity that is considered a public record in town will even mention this. Will even put it as a freaking dot, dot, dot item somewhere. Well, there are. There are the story I read in the globe was just his response to it, but it was a byline that I didn't recognize. It wasn't any of the football people. And there was no, you know, they weren't trying to do anything with it. But this were in New York and it was a New York post. Oh, they'd be all over it. What? We have great front page photos of Diana Rossini and her bikini and like they sex it up and sell it up. You'd think, but they're not doing any of that either, which leads me to believe on her end. Maybe this is this mutually assured destruction type of thing that you're not hearing anything from any reporters or anyone in her field because, oh, well, if you say something about me, then I know where the body's a very, there is some of that too. For sure. I'll start squawking. There is some of that. And once you start opening the can of worms, well, here it comes from everywhere. And so you stay away. I'm keeping my mouth shut. Self preservation. Absolutely. If it does make you feel better, though, someone did say to Pablo Tori today, hey, Pablo, at Pablo Tori, what are your thoughts on the variable Rossini situation to which he retweeted? I'm making calls. Ah, very good. He'll he'll get to the bottom of it. So he's got a business to run. His business is digging up dirt on stuff like this. And how did his business take off? What story? Bellagic. So this is what he does. I don't think people really care about the shell company that he covered in the NBA and the Clippers as much as that story. He knows where his bread is buttered. Get on this, Pablo Tori. There's a whole media ethics thing that the media columnists should be all over. It's a big story in the media world. It really is conflict of interest and relationships with the subjects that you cover and all that. It's a big thing, like real thing. That's a real story. But then there's just the scintillating thing. But, Maz, I know, and I listen, when I was covering the team, I don't want to cover certain stuff. They made me go to Terry Glenn's how he would. Terry Glenn went AWOL. I had an assignment like this to keep going. No, go ahead. I had to do with something with Larry Bird. I can't remember what the hell it was. Bird had had an injury. The people had sent get well cards into the office from Larry Bird. They made me deliver the get well cards to his house. I had to knock on his door so they could get a picture of him. Like the whole thing was a setup so they could get a photo or bird. So and this is I was in my early 20s. And I was in they told me I did it. So but yeah, and that's a small thing. That's not a big one. So but go ahead. Well, they made me just good. Glenn was AWOL. He had disappeared. They made me go knock on his door. His house and wall pole. And this weird little wooded area of I think I'm going to say like on a pond almost. I remember it and it walked down this like wooded kind of dilapidated driveway. They go knock on his door like I want to do this. The last thing I wanted to do and when I got there, there was a FedEx letter leaned up against the wall and I looked at it was from bear. It was there. Notice to him they had to report in five days or they were going to suspend him. He was so gone. He wasn't looking opening his door. He wasn't there. I don't know. But like if I covered the Patriots, I wouldn't want to cover this crap either. Cause then I got to go face these guys and Babel's going to, you know, I'll be on his bleep list forever and I don't want to cover this story, but they made me do it. There would be editors there and publishers trying to sell a newspaper and you'd, they go to the people covering the team and say, go knock on the effing door. You have to do this. And I don't think that exists anymore. No, no, no, definitely not. I don't even think there are there even editors like there's no editors anymore. Not like who edits this stuff. Who's running the department to say, let's win on this story. The editor now is pretty much just editing the copy and putting a headline on it. So it's like the whole landscape has changed for the worse in my opinion. Back in the day, this would have been a thing and whether it would have been an inside track thing. You're right. Oh, huge. Cause I know what I would have said if they said, go knock on the variable. I said, can you send Gail and Laura on this one? Why do we have the track if not for this? So good. Go send the track, the inside track. God, I miss the inside track. Well, and that's how you get away with the two of your paper because you have them do it. They take all the bullets and your people get spared. Tales from the naked city. Oh, the blind items. Love all the bad habits. Yeah, tales from the naked city. All right. Back to your calls right after that. I was one of the naked. Joe Haggerty here. If you were designing the perfect way to blow up a weight loss plan, my schedule would be a pretty good place to start. I'm in the car all the time running to ranks, juggling two kids in hockey, covering hockey myself. And half the time the day changes on me before it's even lunch. A few weeks into Awaken 180, I'm down 20 pounds. That's real weight real fast. And the only reason this is working is because I'm not trying to figure it out on the fly anymore. Crazy thing is I'd probably be down 30 pounds, but had a couple slip ups early because of my hectic schedule. Big mistake. That's why I've never been able to do it before. Now I give my coach my schedule. Where I'm going. What's coming up? And he helps me plan for you unexpected. Last week, I was going out to dinner and he gave me the meal options before I even got there. That's what I need. Not guesswork, not willpower, a real plan for real life. That's why Awaken 180 is working for me. Let it work for you. Online at Awaken180weightloss.com. That's Awaken180weightloss.com. I don't look at the small picture. I look at the big picture, right? This kid will be, I think, a boss room for a while. He will be a big part of our team moving forward. And I don't want to throw him in anything right away because you're the guys who are going to throw him under the bus, right? I don't want that for that kid. So whenever I feel like it's the right time to do, I will do that. And whenever I feel like it's the right thing to do for that team who's been battling really hard all year long, I will do that. So again, it's about us. It's always about us as a team and not as an individual. And I don't care how old you are. The kid shouldn't be up here. They shouldn't be burning a year of his service time. He's clearly not ready. They clearly don't want to put him into a high leverage situation. They don't think he's ready. They don't think it's fair to him. They don't think it's fair to the team. And you know why they don't think it's fair to the team? It's not fair to the team. There's no one, a kid who's not ready just because we just drafted him and the fans want him in. That's not fair to you guys who've been working hard and you might suck Lucas Riekel and you might suck Esimot. But you've done everything we've asked you to do. Now we're going to sit you because the fans want to see some kid who's not ready. So then don't bring him up in the first place. Bingo. So if that's the case, so this makes me wonder, are they all on the same page? In other words, is Sturm kind of like how, and I used the analogy earlier, not to cross sports, but Missoula has had reluctance to play younger guys at times. He likes these guys. Cora does the same thing for God's sakes with the Red Sox. My guess they're exactly on the same page. Sturm is in no position to feel differently or butt heads with the front office. But he could make the case of, look, I trust these guys. We're in a position to get into the playoffs. We need to win this game Saturday. So listen, I trust my guys better than this young kid that you guys brought up and you're forcing on. I don't think Nealine Sweeney want to play him any more than Sturm does. Then they never should have brought him up. Right. Well, explain that part to me. We've said it 18 times Murray, that you promised the agent is part of the deal with the kid is we'll let you burn that first year. So you don't have to wait three years. We'll bring you up year one. And it's sort of a business agreement and that happens with a lot of prospects apparently. And so that's that. So we'll live up to it. We told you we'd bring you up or bring you up, but that doesn't mean we have to play you. So I'm here to just hang out on nine. He's here to burn a year of his service time. So he does have to wait an extra year. Yes, exactly to piss off this kid potentially. That's why I'm off. He gets a benefit out of it though, Murray, because now he gets a free agency a year earlier. So I understand. I understand what you're saying. He's not playing. The other thing I would tell you is the way they're doing it. If they set it up this way, I'm not sure they did. But if they did, it gives Sweeney and nearly plausible deniability with the agent. You know, the agent could say, Well, wait a minute, you called them up and now you're not playing. And they'll say, Well, wait a minute, first of all, you're getting your service time. Secondly, it's the coach's job to decide who plays. We didn't have anything to do with that, even though the guy won't believe him, but he can. They can claim it. Let's do a lightning round. Shall we? I said, shall we? brought to you by Blue Sky Restoration Contractors. Thank you indeed. Spring weather here in New England can be unpredictable, but your restoration partner shouldn't be. Our guys at Blue Sky are always ready to respond 24 seven and they take care of everything from beginning to end. So visit go blue sky dot com no e blu sk y go blue sky dot com back to your phones. Max and go ahead. So what do you got first Max? Listen, I'm not saying John Henry doesn't deserve criticism, but the same shanting Adam to sell the team are kind of brain dead. Robert Kraft has a second most valuable franchise in the league and that cheap bastard is a last in cash spend. And they're gonna like Christian Gonzalez walk and will he get sell the team chance? No, so these people need to wake up in like just just be fair to all teams in town. Well, I will agree. Henry gets it worse than Kraft and it's not equitable. I would agree with that. So me too. And I don't know if it's because Kraft is local or what that my guess is it plays a factor in the minds of some people. So and I told you that one to me is always asking. I don't get it. So what will take someone that we think today hold just because he's from Quincy? I don't know if that's it. I think Max the whole all that winning for 25 years just softened everybody. You know what I mean? Definitely because I think Kraft dealt with a good deal of skepticism pre-Bellachek Brady. Good point. I mean he did. And then I think the whole thing got so honked out that Kraft just rode that wave and that that's what I think happened. Either way, the lightning runs brought to by blue sky restoration contractors, Anthony and Medford. Quick. Yeah, Mike, I think they got to keep on Hagins. He's like a Craig Janney Adam's out. He's like a past verse, but he makes every bow's limites better. He can fly. The only thing he's got to practice on is he has a great shot. He's got to shoot first, but I think they got to keep it. Okay. Well, I disagree that he can shoot the puck based on what I saw and heard. And I'm not sure what linemen linemates he's made. But how do you know where you go with that scouting report? Greg in the car brought to by goldbluesky.com. Go ahead, Greg. Hey, what's happening? I got two points real quick about Vrable. If I don't, I agree with math that the four, you know, the four figure is a joke. Why wouldn't you go higher to maybe this is just much ado about nothing? That's all. Thanks guys. Maybe it is. Maybe it is PJ on Sagamore or in Sagamore Beach. Go ahead, PJ. What do you got? Hey guys, there was a Vrable was on a one of them dumb podcast where they hang out in a bus and they would call Walker and talk if you want, but he was talking about he would castrate himself to win a Super Bowl because you don't need it anymore when you're married. I just, I'm going to just leave that there. Okay. I got it. So the first time we've gotten that still feels me like that point. I don't know. Okay. Call me crazy. Go blue sky.com. No, uh, E on the blue sky, BLU SKY. Louie and Ames where you're next. Yeah, whatever you do, Felga. Yeah, let's have everybody on hold and go to the lightning round. All right. And there's so much content here with all the malaki from you. Dope. I turned the radio on. I thought that was listening to porn serious radio. I turned it on and you're like, we got to sex it up and that's what we hear the fall of the gossip. And in the same sentence, you said, uh, yeah, something about being ethical. Are you serious? No, I'm not. I'm not worried about the ethics. Seriously, Felga. Seriously. Let me, let me just say this seriously. You just get the app and listen, I'll start with this. Who the fmi? I hope you guys start with the same. I know it's your radio station, but hopefully you start with the same. Start with the same. I don't, you just talked for a minute. It's a minute of gibberish. I don't really understand what you were doing there. Start with the same. What does that mean? You know what that means? He's saying something along the lines of glass houses. No, I'm an imperfect human being who makes mistakes. And if you followed me around, I'd make some kind of mistake. I wouldn't make the one label made. I'm pretty confident in that one. Follow me as much as you want. It's like one big fortune cookie is what that was. It's just gibberish nonsense. He will go to bed with itchy bum. Wake up with smelly finger. Here's Betty. You have your bed. Go ahead. Ben, go ahead. Okay, the lightning round brought you by blue sky restoration contractors. Anthony in Texas. Go ahead. Yeah. So with Ravel, he's had a history of bad decisions in the past. Remember that time guys forgot got swept under the rug. He stole a six pack of beer from a casino. No. And um, yes. How do you wait a minute? I gotta Google this. Hold on. How do you steal a six pack of beer from a casino? Very carefully. Well, they bring them to you for free. Yeah, right. If you're playing the table, the casinos, the ones I've been recently notorious for not having like a convenience store or anything like that. And you just go walk in and buy a. What? How does that make any sense? How do you steal a six pack from a casino? Still chief slimebacker, Vrabel charge with theft at Indiana casino. Oh, Indiana. Okay. Maybe an Indiana they have. Go ahead. Uh, hold on. I just had to click on like, Vrabel was released. From jail after six under all the cash bond. It was an unfortunate misunderstanding and I take full responsibility for the miscommunication. Vrabel said when was it? Uh, it was when he was with the chiefs. So 2011 April 4th, 2011 April 4th. Was he still even, but got traded in 08. Was he even still playing then? Good question. He was taking bottles of alcohol from a deli without paying for them. Okay. There you go. Probably thought they automatically get charged. She was room. I know guys who have done worse but you're nor would why don't you have mercifully and the lightning round here. Go ahead. I'm going to end it right now. Mike Vrabel, if he was three and 14 and Drake may sucked, would there be more light shed on this topic or not? A hundred percent butch love you, babe. Oh, it'd be in totally different context. If they sucked, you would sit there and say, this guy's a mess. You'd say this guy doesn't have a grip, doesn't have a grip on his personal life, doesn't have a grip on his professional life. It's a mess on the field off the field. Where's this guy head? Where's his head? What's he thinking? You absolutely would wrap it together if they sucked. You'd get the Terry Francona tree. It'd be part of the same piece. Terry Francona 2011 collapse that the hatchet job in the globe was certainly that it was a personal attack. It was a hatchet job. It was also true. So sorry, Tito, you're kind of a mess here at the end and it impacted the way the club was run and the it no one said that that story was false. So, um, Francona's story was part of that collapse. So sorry. If they still sucked, if that were dried male at four and 13, huh, you treat it totally different and you look at it totally differently. Definitely. 100% to great point. Here's an update from big Jermurray and we come back with the drama. The drama. Oh my head. The drama in the NBA and the Boston Celtics. That's coming up again after the headlines here. Joe Haggerty here between the car, the ranks, two kids in hockey and covering hockey myself. My schedule is absolute chaos, but a few weeks into Awakened 180. I'm down 20 pounds. Awakened 180 weight loss. Dot com. Why can Tony have a definite chemistry? Are they 100% are they? Yes. 100. Did I do a study? Do you consider them the periodic table of sports? Stop the pipe and smoke. But it's sorry. I don't mean to blow a gas. No, no, blow it, baby. Blow it. Belger and Baz Tatum with Boston now trailing 99 98 417 to go. Feels like exactly where we were in game four. Tatum falls down the exact same spot from last year and gets tied up for a jump ball and I'm telling you, Jason Tatum just fell down in the exact spot on the floor where it happened last May. That's hard to look at. Every member of Celtics Nation just had a flashback. It did not want Tatum is fine. I mean, he's up. He just fell down. It's gonna be a jump ball here with 410 to go. Same uniform look. Same spot on the floor. Tatum had a couple turnovers. That wasn't technically one of them. He basically tripped over the three point line. It wasn't really what he went down a couple times. He was lucky to get one call where there was a tripping file that felt like a phantom call to and then he went down on this one to no call. Ended up being a jump ball, but it was. It was like almost the exact same spot on the floor. The TV last night with Hurley birdies. Hurley said to me, you want to listen to that call from Grandi when he went down there? You want to hear that Felger? You'll like that. So I thought I thought Grandi was going to lay it on thick. I'm a little disappointed. I thought Grandi could have laid that on a lot more thickly than he did. I think Grandi showed tremendous restraint there. Given the drama of this guy. Yeah, that was a five out of a 10 on the grand scale on the grand scale. Yeah, definitely. I was expecting much worse or, you know, much better for my purposes. It'd be like Jackie going to the exit, Dealey Plaza. Yes, but the Tatum drama the last couple of days, Maz. I, I, I, I, I, I can't believe he really feels the way that he feels. Because if he does, then he's unlike most pro athletes that I know. So we never got to this yesterday. The whole, go ahead. But just quickly, you know, going into the game, but I'm not, I'm not looking forward to it. And there's a lot of things I got to overcome and going back there. I'm not, I'm not, not eager to do it. And then after the game, he's like, I'm glad I got, I checked that box. Cause I was, you know, and he like, just this, this overwrought drama of going back and playing in Madison Square Garden, like one basketball floor is any different than any other. It's just, right. It could have, it could have happened anywhere. As my, what I say is like, you know, if he got hurt on a baseball diamond where the wall juts out and now I'm back in that spot, I got to watch myself like, okay, or there's a specific football field like Heinz Field and Pittsburgh is known as really bad or the old vet, the old vet or the current met life turf is supposed to be really bad for injuries. And I'm leery of going back and playing on that surface or playing in that park with that wall, staring me. Sure. The basketball floor is the basketball floor, but this thing about facing the demons and the, but I mean, it's your, Maser thoughts. No. So look again, to me, I was, uh, well, let me start with the story about going back to the, to the place which he created. Okay. That's important to just put that to the side for a second, but that, cause that it, that's the only reason thing got as much attention as it did. Did anyone stop to say, so the, just what you said, they're all the courts are all the same. They're all the same. So it's, it's, no, if you want to say he had a mental block when he came back to play wherever it was that I get, that's normal. The arena, the arena after the game. He said, I'm just glad I'm walking out of here. Like he's returned to the battlefield. Right. Yeah. And he has somehow survived. Right. The, the enemy fire and he's just glad to be going home. Doing another tour. Nervous, anxious. He said about the game on Thursday. I'm glad I'm walking out of here. I'm glad I played. Hi, I, it is a tad overdramatic. It is. If he said something and had fun with it saying, yeah, what happened last year? It sucked obviously, but treat it like a dentist visit sucks, but I got to do it. So this is one of the reasons like I think on, on one level, I thought about this a lot yesterday. I like him as a guy. He's honest. He speaks from the heart, but as a competitor, what competitor would ever say this? So you think he really feels this way? I think he partly does. I don't think he's playing it up. It was a big moment, a big hurdle. I was nervous and anxious to come back here. Obviously I wanted to win and play crazy, but more importantly, I just kind of wanted to walk off the court. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's just, he's kind of like a parody of himself. So I, he can't possibly feel this way to be a high end pro athlete. You got to be tough and resilient and have mental toughness. And I think all these guys have it, even in the NBA, which they don't get enough credit for having those things. And I think they do. I, this feels to me like something you play up for a reality show. So is this like episode six? The mental anguish and hurdle of overcoming returning to Madison. So maybe I've never heard this before. Like I said, no, I've never heard it either. I, I, if Ty Law, when he went back to Heinz field, he ripped his foot on Heinz field and notoriously bad field said, I'm leery of going back on that turf. Cause a lot of guys get hurt on that. Like I'm sure that's been said and I get it. Sure. I've never heard a basketball player. I've heard a basketball player in general say, I have to overcome the mental hurdle of returning to the sport. That's legit. And putting weight on my ankle and lifting off of my ankle and going through three games and four nights and how I'm going to feel on the other side of it. And that's all cool. I get it. Going to a specific floor or building is to me concocted unless, if, unless he does, I mean, so like I'm puzzled. That's tell me that's part of your reality show. Cause that is nothing I've heard from a pro athlete before my life. And then did you hear the pregame interview with Tyler Rooks? Oh my God. Get a load of it. It's like a parry of itself. Give me, just give me number one here, Jimmy. We really took it slow in the beginning. We can't let other people put their like fear and doubts on us to stop just and again, no, listen to the way that scored sad piano. Listen to that. The drama of that music. I mean, I hate to break it. He, he just came back from an injury that pretty much everyone comes back from and he came back from the injury. A little bit ahead of the timeline that most guys come back from, but certainly nothing record setting. I knew nothing sent. You mentioned, I don't remember Gordon. Hey, we're talking about going back to Cleveland after he broke his leg there. It's just another basketball. Right. Exactly. Right. That was infinitely more gruesome. That was that was a tatum. That was ugly. It's just another Achilles injury that he came back from on the timeline that most guys come back from it on a little bit ahead of it, but not much. Listen to this drama. Go ahead. Yeah. We really took it slow in the beginning. We can't let other people put their like fear and doubts on us. Yeah. And again, nobody would have thought to me if I didn't come back. My return felt so far away. The data that felt real is when I got assigned to the G. Lee. I was on the bench. I was the next is the Xavier Tillman and I remember I said I took it deep breath. I'm like X. I've been afraid to have this conversation with you for a while. Do I still got it? X looked at me like. He like what if your name was John Doe and I didn't know you. I would have never knew you got injured. He's like, bro, you are ready. Listen to this. It was like a relief. I was afraid for somebody to tell me like you will show up yourself. I mean, you gotta be kidding. No, even Xavier Tillman agrees with us because he's like what the hell are you talking about? Right? Seriously, that's how the conversation went. Tell him and look at me goes, what? What the hell are you doing? What is this? What the hell are you talking about? It's a it's a parody of itself. It is. It was way too much. And so it just occurred to me though and listening to this, the interview with Taylor Brooks was earlier in the week. Right? Well, I'm on Monday. I think no way. It couldn't have been that early. I thought they ran a pregame last night. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I understand they ran it, but I think he sat down with it earlier in the week. Okay. So my point is I wonder if what he revealed to the media even was triggered by that conversation with Taylor Brooks. No, he had a script for himself. Probably. Yeah, probably. Ginning up fake drama. I hope you're right because I don't see any extra cameras following him right now. I think that series is over. I don't think he's filming anything extra. I think that's how he feels. Then he's just wants the storyline like the, you know, the NBA, you just can't come back from injury and play. There's got to be this thing. But it's, it's, I, you tell me if you've ever like, he's still on this thing. Give me the other cut. It's unbelievable. You were telling me so. You are going to play in Madison Square Garden, the place that the injury took place. What will stepping onto the court signify for you? Listen to the music. I'm not like over it. Like I still am a little anxious just knowing that like something I'd never thought would ever happen. It happened and it happened to me and honestly, like my life changed a little bit. I'm not like thrilled. It's probably going to be tough for me. Like emotionally, it was like the worst day of my life. What do you think you'll tell yourself before you step on onto the court? The hushed tone. It's the music too much. That is going to be okay. It's going to be okay. Like I'm nervous like talking about it right now, but I decided that I was going to come back and you know, just got to go do it. There's no way he's that soft. So he's not. To me, it's just, I think he is. I know. There's no way. He's deeply unserious league. You can't get to that. Maybe it's that. Okay. So that's two different things. So that's part of it. The deeply unserious league is it's all gender drama. It just, it's just not enough to come back from injury and play. There's got to be a whole thing around it. And that's just the way that that league goes. That's what it has to be because there's no way he's that soft. There's no way. He's to easy. We've worked. No, you, you, you don't get. To that level. Afraid to play on a certain basketball floor when they're all exactly the same. There's just no way he can't do that. And what leads me to believe it is the Murray told me about this Jalen Brown breakup piece in an ESPN. Yeah, the remote of Shelburne one that I couldn't. I'm sorry. You see how long this I know. Yeah, I'll be honest. I did scam it is. Yeah. So did I see the best stuff is at the very end. Yeah. So I didn't even get well. It's at the very end. Who said it? Okay, you tell me who said this. Quote, I was questioning everything he said mentally. Am I going to be the same? Is my athleticism going to be the same? Am I going to be able to lead this group and quote who said that? Well, I know the answer. That's Jalen Brown folks. Yeah. That's Jalen Brown to Ramona Shelburne. To which I had to go. What are you quite? What? Oh, it turns out he had a meniscus procedure in the off season, which like is really coming. For pro athlete. Sure. Yeah. He got his knee cleaned up. Friends and family were calling him teammates were checking in with texts and messages. He knew everyone meant well, but he didn't want their help. The pick me ups their empathy. All in all Jalen Brown wanted was space. Three weeks earlier, the Celtic swing man had undergone surgery to repair a torn meniscus and he was alone in his house in Boston. Yeah, there was a lot of similarities there. Meniscus. Is it now? So Jalen Brown's like, well, where's my injury recovery story? Where's my moment with Taylor Rooks in the music? So now he's got it. So like they all got to have their, you all got to gin up drama. You can't just get your knee cleaned up or have an injury and it's a bad injury. But let's see another Achilles. A lot of guys have it. They all come back from it. You just can't do that. It's got, there's got to be a whole soap opera around it. That's what it has to be. Jimmy, we get the traumatic music back there. The music would take them. But listen, I mean, read the shellborne piece. There's music playing in the background of this whole thing. Tonya, when I ruptured my man, I haven't gone back there. I'm not going back. I was at the Reebok facility in Stoughton. I'm not going back to that place. Too many ghosts. Oh my God. Wow. Anyway, we're from our sponsors and we're back with your phones. Gasper's slated to join us as well. It's an agenda free Friday continues right after this.