Alysa Liu, Jutta Leerdam & Sturla Holm Lægreid?
61 min
•Feb 13, 20262 months agoSummary
Who? Weekly hosts Bobby Finger and Lindsey Weber discuss celebrity news including Christine Quinn's potential return to Selling Sunset, the Ritz Super Bowl ad casting controversy, and extensive coverage of Winter Olympics athletes including figure skaters Alyssa Liu, Jutta Leerdam, and biathlete Sturla Holm Lægreid. The episode features listener calls about Olympic athletes and celebrity culture trends.
Insights
- Celebrity comebacks are strategically timed around competing projects; Christine Quinn's potential Selling Sunset return coincides with her House of Villains appearance, suggesting calculated career moves
- Olympic athletes are becoming primary celebrity content drivers, with parasocial relationships forming around individual athletes rather than traditional entertainment figures
- Super Bowl advertising relies on celebrity typecasting and established personas; casting mismatches (like Jon Hamm in a 'salty' ad) undermine campaign effectiveness
- Social media amplification of athlete controversies (cheating confessions, theft) creates secondary fame cycles independent of athletic achievement
- Gen Z celebrity culture values authenticity and lived experience; athletes who took breaks and lived normal lives (like Alyssa Liu) resonate more than those with continuous pressure
Trends
Olympic athletes as primary celebrity content during Games; parasocial fandom replacing traditional entertainment celebrity focusReality TV cast member departures due to legal/personal complications; shows struggling to maintain viewership without original castCelebrity apology culture and public confessions as relationship recovery tactics; social media as platform for personal redemption attemptsAthlete-influencer crossovers; Olympic competitors building secondary brands through social media and entertainment partnershipsBiathlon as cursed Olympic event; multiple athlete controversies (homophobia, theft, infidelity) suggesting sport attracts or produces problematic behaviorSuper Bowl advertising strategy shifts; celebrity-driven ads underperforming when casting doesn't align with established personasInternational athlete dating American entertainment figures; cross-cultural celebrity coupling increasing visibility for non-US athletesAthlete personal branding through aesthetic choices; tooth gems, hair modifications, and styling becoming part of competitive identity
Topics
Reality TV Cast Member Returns and DeparturesOlympic Figure Skating and Athlete Celebrity StatusSuper Bowl Commercial Strategy and Celebrity CastingBiathlon Sport Controversies and Athlete BehaviorSpeed Skating and International Olympic AthletesCelebrity Apology Culture and Social Media ConfessionsAthlete-Entertainment Industry CrossoversOlympic Athlete Personal Branding and Social MediaReality TV Production and Netflix Series StrategyCelebrity Name Confusion and Search Engine OptimizationSelling Sunset Cast Changes and Show ViabilityPeloton Instructor Controversy and Social Media ManagementTree Law and Property DisputesQuiz Show Celebrity AppearancesFaye Dunaway Real Estate Client Relations
Companies
Netflix
Selling Sunset production company; considering bringing Christine Quinn back for upcoming season
TMZ
Reported on Christine Quinn's potential return to Selling Sunset with multiple sources
Peloton
Former employer of viral instructor; subject of controversy over username interpretation and social media management
Oppenheim Group
Real estate agency featured in Selling Sunset and Buying Beverly Hills; employs Alex Hall
Vulture
Publishing platform for Who? Weekly book cover reveal on February 13
Ritz Crackers
Super Bowl advertiser; subject of discussion regarding celebrity casting and commercial effectiveness
HBO Max
Aired Paul family reality show 'Paul American' with one season
Eurosport
Sports broadcaster; covered French biathlete's post-Olympic interview and comments
People
Christine Quinn
Selling Sunset cast member; potentially returning to show after five-season absence; currently in Dallas
Chrishell Stause
Selling Sunset cast member; reportedly quit the show; subject of discussion about cast departures
Alyssa Liu
Olympic figure skater; retired at 16, returned to competition; won world championship; part of 'Blade Angels' trio
Jutta Leerdam
Dutch speed skater; engaged to Jake Paul; won gold in 1000m speed skating at Olympics
Sturla Holm Lægreid
Norwegian biathlete; won bronze medal; publicly confessed to cheating on girlfriend on live TV
Jake Paul
Boxer and entertainer; engaged to Olympic speed skater Jutta Leerdam; featured in HBO Max reality show
Ilya Malinin
American Olympic figure skater; won gold medal; nicknamed himself 'Quad God' at age 11; previously made homophobic co...
Amber Glenn
American Olympic figure skater; part of 'Blade Angels' trio with Alyssa Liu and Isabeau Levito
Isabeau Levito
American Olympic figure skater from New Jersey; part of 'Blade Angels' trio; named after Lady Hawk character
Philip DiGuglielmo
Figure skating coach and choreographer; convinced Alyssa Liu to return to competitive skating
Arthur Liu
Alyssa Liu's father; fled communist China after Tiananmen Square; invested approximately $1 million in daughter's ska...
Alex Hall
Olympic skier; shares name with Alex Hall from Selling the OC reality show; causes Google search confusion
Farrah Aldjani
Real estate agent; Kyle Richards' daughter; posted Faye Dunaway voicemail criticizing her real estate work
Faye Dunaway
Actress; left voicemail for real estate agent Farrah Aldjani criticizing property presentation
Kendall Jenner
Peloton instructor; viral for bike performance; responding to social media commentary about her presence
Michael Shannon
Actor; featured in previous year's Ritz Cracker Super Bowl commercial with Aubrey Plaza
Aubrey Plaza
Actress; featured in previous year's Ritz Cracker Super Bowl commercial with Michael Shannon
Jon Hamm
Actor; featured in current year's Ritz Cracker Super Bowl commercial; known as social/party person
Bowen Yang
Actor; featured in current year's Ritz Cracker Super Bowl commercial; known as social/party person
Scarlett Johansson
Actress; featured in current year's Ritz Cracker Super Bowl commercial
Quotes
"She quit five seasons ago. She said, fuck y'all, I'm out of here. Then she moved back to Dallas."
Bobby Finger•Opening segment
"I want to be famous when everybody and nobody is a celebrity."
Lindsey Weber•Book announcement
"I feel like it's like if you're under the age of 20, you really can't retire. That's where it's not really meant for you."
Lindsey Weber•Alyssa Liu discussion
"I want to be like a tree. So every year she adds a new like colored ring to her hair."
Bobby Finger•Alyssa Liu interview discussion
"I don't want to do this on TV anymore. She left when that news came out."
Lindsey Weber•Christine Quinn discussion
Full Transcript
welcome to who weekly the podcast where you'll learn everything you need to know about the celebrities you don't i'm bobby finger i'm lindsey weber in my left hand i have one bit of breaking news in my right hand i have another bit of breaking news which one are you going to choose left or right left okay well i'm going to lie and say that i had something in the left hand that i didn't originally the left hand was the old french clown died philip gaulier but actually i wanted to talk about the fact that christine quinn is going to come back to selling sunset maybe that's so much more relevant than the old french clown from the viral video that we love died comedy is okay but clown is more difficult what's crazy is that the caption is that hillary clinton interviews a hundred year old french clown but he died at 82 so he was not a hundred he was never a hundred he He was only like 79 in this video. He was a young man. Right, and you're making him this elderly ass clown. He was a young clown. Maybe he was old for a clown. This isn't even relevant to us at all. This is just a video you like. What's relevant is Christine Quinn, and I believe this. I believe that it's like something being considered because TMZ has all this sourcing on it. She quit five seasons ago. She said, fuck y'all, I'm out of here. Then she moved back to Dallas. It's crazy. We've had five seasons without Christine Quinn, and we're still watching this goddamn. I know. Well, now, Chrishell allegedly seemingly quit. She was like, I'm not doing this anymore. No, she did. She quit. I don't think she does the thing where she changes. I think she quit. I hope that's true, because I'm sick of her ass. You really are. And so I'm thinking, what are they going to do with this show now that Chrishell's gone? Nicole, number one freak show, moved to Nashville. It's like, what's happening here? They might bring Christine Quinn back. the number one diva from Selling Sunset. Multiple sources familiar with the situation tell TMZ production for the Netflix hit series is gauging Christine's interest. They should be gauging it every day of her life. They should be calling her, asking whether she'd consider coming back. We're told the premature conversations have taken place and are ongoing. Yes, but nothing is official and no contracts have been signed. Wow. We've reached out to reps for Christine and Netflix. So wait, but she lives in, doesn't she live in Dallas? I think she at one point lived in, she's from Southlake, I think. I'm trying to remember my presentation on Christine. Me too. That's how I know. I think she has been living in Plano or Dallas because remember she dated that like random rich oil guy. I know whenever they speak to her at some event, she's like, I love living in Texas. I'm so happy to be back in Texas. And her voice is different. She's gotten different. So I grew up here and I went to Southlake Carol. So my family still lives in the same house that I grew up in. And I live in the area. I'm a suburb gal. Yeah. Dallas is like my home in Fort Worth as well. So, yeah. She is trying to get back into reality television because she's going to be on House of Villains. Oh, okay. Well, I forgot about that. That says everything. So, it's like she already is signed on to be on a reality TV show. She just is like unclear whether she should come back to Selling Sunset. But it's like obviously if you're going to do that like shitty show, you should do your show that you came from. Yeah. That you aren't done with. I agree. I think for her it got too personal when the husband, the marriage, and the stuff blew up. She said, I don't want to do this on TV anymore. Yeah. Or I don't want to do this on TV at all. She left when that news came out. I think that guy was considerably worse than we realized at the time. Well, I think it was like, I don't want to do the legal stuff on TV. Yeah, yeah. For sure. I'd rather not. Which makes sense because you see Chelsea this season. It's like nobody wants to do like – Right, she was barely in it. Nobody in some sort of legal battle wants to be on TV at the same time because you could really get in trouble if you say anything. That's not actually our breaking news. There's got to be better breaking news. There is better breaking news. And the better breaking news is we wrote a book. We wrote a book. We wrote a book. There's a book. There's a Who Weekly book. We wrote it. It's already written. In fact, it's called, guess what? I want to be famous when everybody and nobody is a celebrity. That's such a good title. I want to be famous. It's such our show. You're going to love it. If you listen to the show, you're going to make you feel smart. And if you don't listen to the show, you're not listening to this. So I don't really care. You'll buy it and you'll learn. We didn't want to tell anyone until not only it was written. We wanted it to be edited. We wanted it to be fat. We just got it fact checked. We wanted it to be fact checked. And it has a cover and the cover is fucking stunning. And you can go see it literally right now or actually like at 10 a.m. this morning on the premiere is on Vulture.com. Mm-hmm. 10 a.m. EST, Friday, February 12th? 13th. 13th. The 13th. Friday the 13th. And you could even pre-order it. And you're going to read a book of essays about celebrity and fame, and I think you're going to love it. It will be available to purchase in bookstores, and you can also have a chance to come see us personally, IRL, shill the book. So if you want to do that, stay tuned because we'll be releasing some book tour dates. It'll be fun. We'll do like a hybrid. We're doing like smart, stupid, you know, like the stupid shit you expect from us, but some smart book stuff too. Yes. We can't wait for you to read the book. We can't wait to see you in the fall when we tour with it. And we're so excited. Thanks. And you are listening to Who's There? A weekly call intro where we take your questions, comments, and concerns at 619-HooThem. Let's start with comments. hi lindsey bobby i'm just calling because of a quick correction on the tuesday episode you said that the um teleton lady got mad because of the username pedal file uh that was just something someone made up she actually responded to a tweet and said that it was like a horribly racist name um so i don't know if you'll add this in the show but i just think it's important to get the facts right that like she got mad for a real reason all right crunch crunch bye Like she got mad for a real reason. Kendall is really loving her virality. Kendall is commenting on every single thing that anyone's ever said to her. This was in reporting. So this was in like page six reporting that I read that she was responding to someone who used the username pedal file. So I just took that as truth. But because that reporting was then disseminated, you know, and then got believed by a lot of people. she responded to a tiktok comment and said people think it was pedophile but it wasn't that dude john pruitt spread that rumor it was actually a heinous racist slur that shouldn't have been made past the username rules but it did and i shut it down so she's trying to like characterize herself as this like hero this like diva this person who's fighting for good and also she's really really loving everyone's commentary about her on that bike saying get them banned well i feel like it's very it's it's a universal win for her and also she has to like because she's not actually working at peloton anymore she really has to like drag this on as long as possible i'll tell you who won't be dragging this on me i'm like this is the last you'll hear from me about this there's nothing else to say i do like that she has told me that she was a film student at usc she has a degree in film from usc so she's commenting on people's comments where they're like she's giving the kubrick stare when she's on that bike and she says honored as someone who went to film school I was going for the Kubrick stare here. Love you for knowing that. And then she says, Hi, lovely. Former Peloton lady just launched my own wellness app. But yes, I got a degree in film from USC. I'm a huge Hitchcock fan and love a good canted angle and film noir. I'll talk cinema all day. God, I'd love to talk cinema with this lady. It's like the way that the interest is draining from my body. It's like it's insane. Like I'm like I couldn't care any less at this point. you have to do it i think she understands that this is only good that like lindsey's interest is waning and she has to pounce as much as she can our poor brains though because we were done recording on when on monday i could not stop saying get a man to you and then you said what did you say you were like i have to hang up you're on repeat i was like yeah you're right you're on repeat okay but and it's sort of like whiffed out the window already i just am kind of like we were late to it and i feel like now it's over and she is dragging it out and that's good for her and i hope she gets some sort of you know deal with like nike for this but it's not gonna be it's not gonna be a deal with who weekly i'll tell you that to keep covering her she'll get a deal with like asics i don't know i don't know it's not gonna be nike drag her okay next call i love this call i cried at this call when i watched the video I had to call in about the Ritz ad. Technically, it's under embargo, but by the time this airs, it won't be, so I'm clear. The thing about the Ritz ad is it's building off of last year's Super Bowl ad where Michael Shannon and Aubrey Plaza, two famously salty celebrities, were too salty for a party, but they were, like, salty enough for Ritz because Ritz are salty. So, like, fine. It was a fine enough ad. But then they're trying to build on that this year. But there's absolutely nothing characteristically salty about Bo and Yang, Scarlett Johansson, and Jon Hamm, of all people, like Hollywood's good time guy. So the ad no longer makes any sense. As for why it was mysteriously deleted, that is because PR reps send the ads under embargoed links and, like, anonymized YouTube links before the Super Bowl. so that you can watch them. But they always mess up sending the secret preview link and then not fixing it for public facing communications. So they accidentally like post the full instead of the teaser or they post the private link instead of the public one. So that's probably what was going on there. But it's just as well because when you see the ad, it will irritate you to no end. That's all, Crunch Crunch. God, I love being in the weeds with marketers. That's not the wrong embargo link. Well, they probably sent the like pre-embargo, like no embed, like link only, right? Video first so they could preview it. And then when the real upload happened, they re-sent it. But the person had already embedded the like non-embeddable one. So then it like just showed up as non-existent. So it was never deleted. It just was a mix up of embeds. Again, like the most boring version of what the answer was. But I just think it's so funny that like last year there was a concept. It was like, let's get two celebrities who are famously like kind of in bad moods all the time. And then it did well, so we'll repeat it. And then they like somehow forgot the equation of the original concept, like why it worked or like what the kind of point was or whatever. I don't remember this commercial, but here it is. It's Michael Shannon and Aubrey Plaza. I don't need to say that. I would say famously salty. and you'll hear them, you just have to hear them introduce themselves as like a character actor, Michael Shannon, and TV star, Aubrey Plaza, who is kind of typecast in everything, kind of in a complimentary way. He's salty, but I'm the saltiest. Oh, saltier than me? When I smile, people assume it's a glitch. Please, I'm the human version of Monday. My personality cures meats. You are a salty freak. If you had to cast two actual salty celebrities, who would you do? I have one, Chapel Road. Miss Queen Salty. the saltiest of salty. I mean, I mean that as a compliment. Who else would you get? You want like grumpy celebs, like Jack Nicholson now, you know? Like you want like famously grumpy, like I'm grumpy, you know? I'm salty. Dakota Johnson, maybe? No, no. I just think that like Jack Nicholson isn't salty. He's just like old. Oh, Harrison Ford? Harrison Ford and Chapel Roan. That would be perfect. Get back to me on that one. Harrison Ford and Chapel Rhone. Ritzcracker can afford them both, I'm just saying. Big Ritz. But instead of getting Harrison Ford and Chapel Rhone. They got the two most party-minded celebrities I could think of. They got Jon Hamm, Bowen Yang, and Scarlett Johansson. Well, Scarlett, I don't know what her deal is with partying, but Jon Hamm is like a social guy. And so is Bowen. Another day, another Ritz party. Why didn't they invite us? Well, we're salty. We hate parties. Mingling. Nyapping. They do have all the Ritz crackers, though. That's salty, buttery flavor. Let's go for five minutes. I'll only go if my feet don't have to touch the sand at all. Hey, salties, what's the holdup? I don't need her to be there. She's, like, barely there. She's not there to do anything. But do we know Jon Hamm and Bowen Yang as, like, two people who hate parties because they're salty and mean? Well, the reason why this is relevant is it's, like, when a commercial like this plays off a celebrity's actual personality versus what a character they're playing, It's like, that's when I'm like, it's time for me to get involved because I feel like it's like, you can't tell me that they're playing characters when they're playing themselves. You know, they are playing themselves in this Ritz Cracker commercial and the idea is that they're supposed to be salty. Like, this is like when there was that state format and then there was an actor in it who was not playing themselves, but then other people were playing themselves. Remember that pissed me off? Or like an entourage where like some of the actors are themselves and some of them aren't. And you're like, I'm so confused. Oh, yeah. Like, corporate enthusiasm did that. It can be kind of frustrating because you're like, am I supposed to be going off of the personality that I know you to have via press and interviews or something? Which I don't know you in real life, but that's what you're trying to tell me that I'm allowed to do. Like in this ad. But it doesn't track. Nope. Okay, next call. So many new Olympians today. I'm so excited. Melissa Lu. Is she our first Olympic who? She's so cool. Gave herself that piercing. just found out about her retirement post at like 16 or something that started with hey i want to know more about her the rest of the blade angels and ilio what's his face quad god crunch crunch i have pneumonia what have you been watching on the olympics mostly pairs ice dancing that's like what i keep getting trapped into watching not trapped like i turn on the tv and that's what's on i'm really obsessed with the kind of the rivalries between the pairs you know the french ones and the american ones and the uk guys i just am like i'm into the i'm into the pairs what about you i haven't watched enough skating that's the problem i've had stuff that i can just have on mute so it's like like lugeing i'm really obsessed with the lugeing drone i'm really obsessed with curling like are there things that are on during the day no and that that my issue like i not really i watching it muted so i not really ingesting it the way it should be ingested It more like screensaver but I appreciate it as screensaver And I only watching the figure skating post the actual competitions like afterwards the YouTubes and stuff So you didn't see Alyssa Liu. So I didn't see her live. I only saw it after the fact, after she won. Well, the team won. We haven't gotten to the individual, I believe. She's youthful because she has a funky haircut and tooth gems, but she is actually in her 20s. She's 20. She retired at 16, which is crazy. It's crazy to be like she retired at 16, but she was like, got stressed out and was like, don't want to do this anymore because she'd been skating since she was like five or like, and then professionally skating, like not much older. And then won all these awards and was so like promised. Everybody was so excited for her. And she was like, I can't handle this. I got to go to college. I got to be a real person. I'm quitting. Yeah. And it actually gets like really interesting and sort of dark. If you read into a lot of the reporting at the time that she quit. When did she retire? What year? 2022. Because her father, his name is Arthur, Arthur Liu, he fled communist China in the early 90s. It was after Tiananmen Square. And so he flees, establishes himself in the Bay Area. In 2022, there was all this reporting about how they were kind of scared for their lives, meeting the Liu family, because they were afraid that they were being targeted by the Chinese government in a sort of like stalking harassment scheme. There's a lot of reporting about this at the time. And that just happens to coincide when with the time Alyssa was like, I don't want to do this anymore. You know, like, I don't know that they're necessarily related. And I don't think as far as I can tell, she's ever said, this is one of the reasons why I stopped skating. Point is, she retired that year in 2022. Like a month after this reporting that I was reading in ESPN that says U.S. Olympic figure skater Alyssa Liu and father targeted in Chinese by case. Like, I don't think it's a coincidence that one month after that, she was like, I'm out. Anyway, that's a random side note. So tell me about the decision to retire. It was a crucial time in my life. I was 16, and college was coming up. Like, I wanted to do so much. I went to Nepal, and I trekked to Everest Base Camp. Me and my friends would do tons of road trips. Yeah, I mean, I was really just living it up. I would say it was my best life. At any point, are you like, gosh, I kind of miss skating? No. Not at all. You're not thinking about it at all. I feel like it's like if you're under the age of 20, you really can't retire. That's where it's not really meant for you. You can say I'm taking a break. You don't get to retire. I think when you were a child star and you have been put through the ringer as a kid, like with demanding coaches and public attention and your parents who were overbearing, like it can feel like more miserable soul-sucking work than even work adults do, you know? Oh, obviously. I'm just talking about the word retire. It's a little bit of a misnomer when you're under the age of 20, you know, because there is like a good chance you come back and do something like this along these lines. And she did. First of all, there's a really good 60 minute segment that I'm completely obsessed with, not just because it tells me about Alyssa Liu and her father, who was like a single dad lawyer. So he made good money so he could spend a lot of money on her, even though he had other kids. He clearly gave Alyssa most of the money. there's one point where the interviewer is like how much money do you think you've spent on Alyssa throughout her like training and career and he's like I don't know about a million dollars and the interview is like what so he invested a lot into his daughter's career and she is extremely good but I thought there was something really interesting I don't know if it was in this or the Elle piece about her or there was I think a New York Times piece about her but there's one part where she's like when I retired again at 16 years old I got to do stuff I wasn't able to do even though I was a child. She's like, I'd always wanted to go skiing, but I'd never been skiing because it wasn't allowed because it's so dangerous and they thought I could get hurt and not be able to compete anymore. So she got to go skiing for the first time. Then she goes to college and she like goes hiking with her friends. She deletes Instagram. She's like, fuck Instagram forever. And then when she meets back up with her old coach, who's this like hilarious gay guy, I have to play this clip. He's like, oh boy, like, oh, here we go again. But you can also like make the rounds and do skating like in the professional circuit without actually competing for the Olympics. That's my thing. And that's kind of what she says she wants to do initially. That's why him being oh boy is very interesting because it's like unless she went back being like I want to win a gold, which maybe she did. It's kind of like you can just like get in the circuit and dance to Lady Gaga and like tour throughout the country and the world and just do that. and it's low key and you don't have to hurt yourself and you can be very much like in the realm of impressive to a normie but not actually competing for an olympics medal and like that's a great life i think like a lot of skaters do that after they medal too she tells a 60 minutes journalist i keep forgetting her name i'm so sorry but she's like i really just wanted the dopamine rush of skating like you can't get it anywhere else and i just wanted to do that again and then she was like uh-oh i mean you could also like join frozen on ice i'm not saying that's beneath her But I'm just saying like there's lots of things that you could do like as an ice skating, ice skating performer or whatever. The coach and choreographer are like absolutely iconic. Just watch. She pestered one of her many former coaches, Philip DiGuglielmo. And so I call up Philip and I tell him like, hey, I think I want to go back to skating. And I said, oh, that's fun. And I thought like, oh, you want to do collegiate competitions? And she goes, no, I want to compete again. And I said, let me call you back. I go and I grab a bottle of red wine and I open that bottle and I pour myself a really big glass. This is a terrible idea. Terrible idea. Two and a half hours later of conversation with me trying to talk her out of it. And everything I said, like, oh, I said, you're, you know, other people have tried this and they're, it was hard because they're older. She goes, I'm only 18. This is like the storytelling of a diva. No, I know. It's just like this. I'm sorry. This, not that he's that much older than me, but like this generation of gay man, this is just going to activate me. Like Corky St. Clair talking about talking to a 20 year old figure skater. I'm just like, yes. You see that in your future. That's you. You see a call from a young person. You're like, here we go. Here we go. I had to pour myself a glass of red wine. To me, it's like her first part of her career, she'd been training since she was a child pressured by her dad. That's like the wrong – that's the worst headspace you could be in. Like it's just like I don't think working with that type of person is going to be very like inspiring or fun. You're going to kind of maybe always feel a little bad even though like the talent is there. Someone who you know to be talented taking a break, like living their life, like having a slay college experience and like skiing and doing all those things and then coming to you and being like I want to compete. That's the dream. And then they're like the natural talent is still there. They have the motivation. They're like excited to be there. It's like, that's like what we should be shooting for, even though obviously this is all happening before the age of 20, which is crazy. But like, that's to me why she's doing so well. Because it's like, she isn't this sob story about being a young child who's been doing this with no life. Because it's also skating. It's like, oh, the emotion. Oh, the like, the performance. Like, and you need to live a life to like have that type of ability to perform like that. She says something in this interview. She's like, the pandemic was a bomb for me because the figure skating rinks were closed. She was like, I literally couldn't go there anymore. And I loved not having to go practice anymore. And it was like actually quite heartbreaking. Then later on when she gets back into it, everything was on her terms because she's like, I'm now good enough and have the freedom where I can just do what I want. I happen to be amazing. And then the journalist is like, so do you consider what you're doing like more art or is it a sport? And she's like, it's art. It's art. I'm it's art. She's Gaga. It's art ice. Well, she's like, right, because she's having fun dancing to like Donna Summer. That's when she won her world championship, I believe. That was for the MacArthur Park one. Yeah. Last time America won the world championship. She won in 2022. Oh, 2024. she's doing a performance to Leve's promise which Leve has posted about on her Instagram TikTok she's doing the MacArthur Park thing with the Donna Summer song people are speaking of her as part of a trio which usually happens at the Winter Olympic Games we like fall in love with three or four Olympians typically women and this year it is the American Olympians Alyssa Liu amber glenn and isabeau levito which is a fantastic name and they are going by they are going by the moniker which i think alissa came up with blade angels stylized like charlie's angels but they're blade angels uh-huh one tiktoker described them as this and now they're being described as this everywhere alt gay and from new jersey the u.s women's figure skating team for this olympics is really like it's almost like it was like made for me it has some of my like favorite subgroups of people which is of course alt gay and from new jersey like wow i feel so seen you know like that's sort of perfect for me it's alissa alt ember's gay and isabeau is from new jersey is from is her name isabel it's isabeau and isabeau is a name that her parents took from Lady Hawk, which is the character Michelle Pfeiffer played. Okay, sure. Sure. Great. Love that. Love to see a good Michelle Pfeiffer movie that I've never seen Lady Hawk. Have you ever seen the movie Lady Hawk starring Michelle Pfeiffer? Yeah, it used to be on VH1 a lot. So that's why I've seen Lady Hawk. Wait, is it about a woman and a hawk? It is. Yeah, she's like magical. She like becomes a hawk. Broderick plays a young thief who comes to the aid of tragic lovers. is a bow who's cursed to become a hawk every day at sunrise yeah i gotta be seeing this movie why haven't i seen this movie i don't know pauline kale called it disco medieval that sounds fun okay so she's like lady hog i'm sure i would so the blade angels are alt gay and from new jersey all gay from new jersey alissa alt amber gay is a bow from new jersey and i will say i haven't seen the other girls as kind of getting as much attention as alissa but then again like i'm sure true heads now. I also think like based on the performances that I've watched and based on her history and based on the way people talk about her, I think Alyssa is like far and away like the best one. Objectively, like the fucking best. No, she is. She's got tooth gems. She's got piercings and she has this hairstyle where she adds a new like ring around her hair every year. She's like, I want to be like good. She told someone in an interview, I want to be like a tree. so every year she adds a new like colored ring to her hair she's she's alternating between blonde and brunette and there's like a stripe there's like a stripe of blonde in her brunette hair every so often so it's kind of giving this this um what's that animal that kind of has this get this pattern on there's on their fur like there there's like maybe a lot like the lemurs around the tail that has the the stripes yeah that's what i was thinking of too lemur tail yeah lemur tail I go and I grab a bottle of red wine and I open that bottle and I pour myself a really big glass. I want to be famous. I'm really excited to tell you about one of our sponsors, Koyuchi. They're in a league of their own when it comes to bedding, bath and home products. And their organic sateen and flannel sheets are the key to more comfortable, healthier sleep year round. 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This season, we're bringing back some old friends, a Radiotopia buddy, and for the first time ever, a Nobel laureate. That's right. We have Malala on season nine. Normal Gossip is out on all your favorite podcast platforms. I want to be famous. Hi, Lindsay, Bobby, Timmy. I am calling because I have a new favorite. Well, I wouldn't say favorite. I don't think we like this guy. I'm sure I'm not the first. Sure, I won't be the last person to call about this guy. But my new fascination from this Winter Olympics, which is the Norwegian biathlon bronze medalist who, after winning his bronze medal, proceeded to then did a public confession where he admitted to cheating on his girlfriend and then was like, I'm committing public suicide, social suicide to do this and basically hoping that she would take him back. Absolutely deranged. I am just so fascinated by this. I need to hear you guys talk about this, especially because apparently they were only dating six months. Anyway, crunch, crunch, you know, I'm Canada down. You know, I'm Canada down. I love you. You know I'm Canada down. The Olympics brings out things in people that truly I don't even think they know about themselves. Like it really is something where it like you just become kind of insane for two weeks and then like you like oh that totally not a part of my personality the rest of the year Do you know what I mean like i not a soccer hooligan or i not watching football or i not engaged in like sporting in this way just for these two weeks i feel so crazy about this right and i do want i do feel very much as you're very responsible to be rooting against the united states as a country but for individual athletes yeah and if they happen to be american that's cool but like i'm you know i'm i'm rooting away from the body as a whole i'm like go i am like I'm rooting for Canada down. You're like, y'all know I'm Canada down. Absolutely. You know I'm Canada down. Yeah. Especially after Heated Rivalry. I'm like, they gave us Heated Rivalry. We're Canada down. Canada down. And it's cold. That's their shit. Not ours. Still on my grid. Yeah. Where he was on TV being like, I cheated on my girlfriend. I'm so sorry. Did you know that they only knew each other for six months? Six months. I'm like, get my name out of your mouth on live TV. Don't drag me through the mud. Like you already cheated on me and we broke up. And now you're like begging for my forget. get this is a bit i'd be embarrassed i'd be like get the hell out of here with this he wins bronze in he didn't even win gold sir take gold before you apologize he wins bronze in biathlon which biathlon i feel like did i know this and then i forget it every four years they ski and they shoot every four years you say they shoot they shoot you're like they shoot And biathlon is crazy. It's like, it's, I believe it is like a Scandinavian, maybe a Nordic thing. It combines cross-country skiing and rifle shooting. Two things that like, honestly, I feel in my heart do not need to be combined. Well, the reason they were combined, and this is me doing like a teeny tiny bit of research. It was a creation meant for training soldiers who have to shoot in the snow. We're going to teach you how to ski and then shoot. Sure, but I'm like, we are not training soldiers. How did we get this to be an Olympic event? You know what I mean? Like surfing was just added and yet we've had skiing and shooting for decades. Get out of here. And apparently he is like alarmingly good at shooting. Well, I don't want to hear that. Right. The last time he was in the tabloids, which I'll skip ahead very briefly before we get into like the meat of this. I was like, has this guy ever been mentioned before? Because sometimes I'll be like, I'll search Daily Mail and other random tabloids to see if he's ever been mentioned in the press before. And he actually was. Usually it doesn't come through. But in 2023, he received this headline in The Sun. Gun scare. Five-time world champion and Olympic gold medalist banned after shooting gun in his hotel. It says, Olympic gold medalist Stühle Ulm Ligrid has been banned from the Biathlon World Cup after firing a gun in the team hotel. The 26-year-old has been disqualified from the upcoming competition after he broke international biathlon safety regulations. While preparing for today's mass start event, Legritte is said to have accidentally discharged his rifle in the team hotel in Switzerland instead of performing a safety check without live rounds. Clearly he's not that good with guns. These are the risks of being in a competition where you literally have to carry a gun around. So he accepts his bronze medal for biathlon. And when he's talking to his hometown press, because this is all in Norwegian. I might play a clip. I might not because who knows if anyone could understand it. He's telling this journalist unprompted, and I just want to do something a little crazy. I want to beg my girlfriend to take me back and apologize for cheating on her after three months of our six month relationship. And the journalist is like, okay. And then he mentions it again, a couple hours later at the press conference. And it's like, I had to do it. Maybe I was wrong, but I had to do it. Like there's something very like inverted, fucked up, dark, straight version of episode five of Heated Rivalry going on here. It's very weird and like a romantic. You talked in the mix, Joan, about meeting your love of your life and cheating on her. But how do you feel about it right now? Really, I don't know if it's the right choice or not. But it was the choice I made. We make different choices during our life. and that's how you make life basically. So today I made the choice to tell the world what I did. So maybe there is a chance that she will show, see what she really means to me. And maybe not, but I don't want to think I didn't try everything. And then they like reported it out and it's like he knew her for six months only. Six months. You thought this would be some sort of like lifelong romance that he was like doing this big apology for. Then they go to her. This poor girl has to then comment. So she's like, I can't believe he said this. She said his infidelity was, quote, hard to forgive even after a declaration of love in front of the whole world. Quote, I did not choose to be put in this position and it hurts to have to be in it. We've had contact and he is aware of my opinions in this. She wants to be anonymous, too. Yeah, she has not been named. She's I'm grateful to my family and friends who have embraced and supported me through this time. She's like, I literally needed support from family and friends because it's so traumatizing. Also to everyone else who thought of me and sympathize without knowing who I am. Yeah, I'm sympathizing with this anonymous woman who is being called out to say, I forgive you to a man we don't even know the story about. Six months. Six months. Six months. French biathlon winner. Also credit card scammer. Please investigate. Crunch, crunch. You can do credit card fraud and be an athlete, you know? You can do both. And be a gold medalist. You could be a fraudster and a gold medalist simultaneously. That's amazing. I think that that's rights. I don't know if she's gay, but that's gay rights. Like, you can do whatever you want. She's biathlon too. Is she shooting and skiing or something else? She's biathlon as well. She's got a gun. I was going to say. I think this actually tracks. She could do a robbery. She doesn't need to do credit card fraud. She could just walk into the bank with the gun. I just think that like we're in a position where it's like maybe we valorize criminals a little bit too much in modern culture. Like we kind of think criminals are a little bit slay. But she's not helping the cause of people who are like criminals are not slay. Stop trying to valorize criminals. When she steals like $2,000 from a teammate to buy a GoPro, she gets in trouble for it. Can't compete for like three months. It's like a suspended sentence. Like she is convicted. And then she goes to the Olympics and wins gold with a gun. this is so when like the footballer who's really good in your high school like they're or they're like you can't graduate your grades are bad you can't play on the team but then like the teacher's like here's an a just like please compete on the team you know like it's very like yeah they're very like we don't really care that you stole the credit card like we just need you to like win gold for our country here or whatever is she she's french she's french and she stole her her teammates credit card and spent $2,300. She doesn't remember doing it. I can't explain it. I don't remember doing it. I can't make sense of it. All right. Well, the shoppies do change you. Sometimes when I drink a Celsius too late, I also want to steal a credit card and spend $2,300. Well, I think the thing she bought with it was a GoPro and the way that they proved that she used it beyond just like her getting the GoPro and using the credit card, she had photos of the credit card on her phone. So it's like she took photos of the credit cards that she could use the credit card later. But she's like, I don't remember anything about this. It's like a blackout. She got a three-month suspended sentence. She got a six-month ban from competing. But it was also kind of perfect timing because the bans were such that she could still go to the Olympics. Yeah, it didn't really matter. The ban didn't seem to matter. She said, I'd like a Winter Olympics thief who stole from her teammate beats her to gold medal, then rants. I'd like to be left alone. Unfortunately, she's really funny. Where did she do this to? Where did she rant to? Speaking to Eurosport today after her triumph, she pleaded to be left alone regarding her past indiscretions. She said, quote, now I'd like to be left alone, honestly, because I read some things last night that weren't pleasant. It's like, yeah, well, because you stole money from your team. Also, mama, you can't like win the gold and be like, leave me alone. You get to choose, you know, like. I proved I belong here today and I had even proved myself before. I don't have anything left to prove to anyone. And now I'd like to be left alone to do my biathlon. biathlon. OJ Simpson was a great football player, but he still did murder. So it's like, you can do both. And it's not like you didn't prove yourself otherwise. I just love this. I'd please like to be left alone to do my biathlon. It's like, hand me my gun. Hand me my gun and I'll shoot you in the face. Hand me my gun. I guess what we're saying is now that I've spoken about two athletes that happened to both do the ski and the shooting, I'm like, the biathlon is a cursed event. And And this is like, and the aura and the vibes are bad. And they should take this sport off. Because you're getting like cheater guy and you're getting like credit card thieving girl. It's like, seems like we shouldn't be doing this. It seems like a sign. Yeah. If you think about it, it's like these people are not even that, they're not even the best at those individual skills. They're just good at them together. That seems wrong. You're so right. I just feel like it's like, this isn't even the best skier or the best shooter. It's the best person who can ski and shoot. And I think that's a cursed person. Like, I just think that that's the kind of person that would steal a credit card from a teammate or cheat on their girlfriend and then call them out on live TV six months later and embarrass them. Don't mess with a European person who can ski and shoot. It's very scary. Exactly. Jake Paul's fiance is an Olympic speed skater? What? Okay, crunch, crunch. We've talked about her, but people, it's like people forgot, but that's fine. I couldn't find it for some reason, or I missed it in our transcripts. transcripts. Maybe we've only referred to her as like a speed skater. There's a good chance I cut a segment about Jake Paul and Logan Paul's family reality show. I wouldn't put it past me to cut that. Or you cut it. Who knows? Maybe it got cut. It's like we're trying to search transcripts and it's like we're not finding them, but I know we talked about them. All American. Was it called All American? Paul American? Yeah. On HBO? Did it get a second season? Is it even like, I just remember it had one season. I don't even know if it's coming back. It was on HBO Max. It got one season. They have not renewed it or canceled it. I bet it will just sort of disappear. But she's in that show, as is Nina Agdal. That's why I brought it up. I wouldn't have brought it up otherwise. So in that show, that show is very much insistent on reminding you how important you to Leardam is in the show, which is funny because it's like this show is telling you people who are not important. But this show is also trying to be like, you don't understand. Like, this is like a world class athlete. Like, she's really famous in the Netherlands. And at first you're kind of like, sure, then why is she engaged to Jake Paul or whatever? But now in the Olympics, which is nice, it's being flipped where it's like she's getting the chance to be the actual famous one, win the gold medal. And he's in the audience screaming and crying, like in a good way, like supportively, nicely. There's a siren happening. And they're engaged. And she is Dutch. And his brother's girlfriend is Danish, in case you're wondering. Her sport is speed skating. She won the thousand yesterday. I did see her win that. That was fun. And I think people are just gagged because they're like, why is this athlete who we clown and make fun of, who is, I think, objectively good at his sport, but it's a sport that's very easy to make fun of, somehow aligned to someone who does more prestige-y sports, you know? Like someone who we can all rally behind. Well, the Olympics is always going to be more prestige than a boxing match that you have on HBO Live and you're doing gag fights when you're fighting Mike Tyson. Do you know what I mean? And like that's like that's going to always be kind of connected to more nefarious things or just feel cheap. Even if Jake Paul, even if people are out here being like Jake Paul is actually a great boxer and he works really hard. I'm like, I believe that, too. But I also believe that it's like they're still like in a world of promotion, like like his his fiance, Utah Leardam, who we were talking about, who just won gold in the 1000 speed skate. It's like that's a totally different level of athleticism and like prestige than what he is doing, even if like they both work hard. Yeah. You know, what I think is actually charming, though, is how they met, which is very Gen Z of them, which is like he saw her on TV was like, she's so the most beautiful person I've ever seen in my life. And he slid into her DMs and she for some reason saw beyond the the atrocity and responded. and then they were like facetiming because they were long distance i mean i can there's a clip here about how they met you should put it here it's very cute saw beyond the atrocities i try not to judge other people because i'm like one of the most judged people i feel like in the fucking world um and i guess yeah like i dm'd you to be on this show that's how it first started no yeah first your management dm me and then they dm me that you dm me and then i saw your dm like a week later and i thought but it was just like excited for you to come on the show yeah of course but like i didn't want to give you any hope so i was just thinking about like just ignore you like a little bit more and then like then just be friendly i already knew we were gonna date before no yeah you knew i manifest i already knew i already i just i swear to god like i already knew i just knew our vibes were gonna be like boom to the moon yeah i can just tell like when I know something, I just can feel it in my soul. I'm really glad that you or Timmy did the research and searched who are the most famous people born in the Netherlands, according to famous birthdays. Well, who? OK, did you know who the who is the most famous speed skater? Apollo Ono is the only other speed skater I could have named. Right. So she's kind of the and she's the number one other. She's the other name brand speed skater now and has been for a little bit, too. She's beautiful. She's an influencer. She's also speed skater. Like she's like kind of doing a lot of stuff that keeps her like known, you know? And if you had said, Bobby, for a dollar, like Billy Eichner style, name a famous Dutch person, I think I would have only been able to name two. And it was like Nikki Tutorials and Vincent van Gogh. And they're both below her on the Netherlands list on famous birthdays. This is only because of the most recent, you know, who knows? It might shake out differently. But yeah, Nikki Tutorials and Vincent van Gogh are also both Dutch. i want to be famous i want to be famous who is ilia malinin the gold medalist olympic figure skater who is not to be confused with the other ilia from heated rivalry who he looks a lot like that this person's a real skater. Crunch, crunch. This is like we meet two men named Ilya in culture. We like Short Circuit. That's like what's going on here. There's two Ilyas who are too close together in timing and both men on the ice. Okay, they're both men on the ice. All right, they're both men on the ice. They also, when you... But I will say the vibes are so different. But he does speak Russian. He's not Russian. He's from Virginia. Wow so does Connor Story Conor Story Canadian speaks Russian whatever But from Texas He from Texas A 21 American Olympian named Ilya is watching Heated Rivalry Spelled differently. Is watching Heated Rivalry. I don't think that there is a question. What? Have you seen him skate? I think if you've seen him skate, you'd know that I don't think he's watching Heated Rivalry. Because I think he's focused on one thing only, which is skating. and the quality and style of his skating leads me to believe that he'd rather would not be something that he would be engaging in really and caring about. The vibes are weird. Yeah. Too professional? He nicknamed himself the quad god when he was 11. I'm just like, I'm just sensing, I think it's too easy to be like, of course. I think it's a little bit, I don't see it. I don't see it for him. Oh. This is not, this is an intense person. If you've seen him skate, this is a really intense person. I don't think he has time for frivolities, frivolities, frivolities, like watching He Did Rivalry. Okay, I just cut myself doing some Googling to find more evidence of this. And after a very quick Google, I found out that people are mad at him for being homophobic in the past. Here's a tweet or a thread from someone who said, So Ilya Malinan made homophobic comments about male figure skaters two years ago, and the U.S. figure skating sent him to sensitivity training. So maybe let's not do this. So it's like, okay, maybe he hasn't watched Teeted Rivalry because he may have some issues with the content. Maybe. I don't know. I just – I'm not going to give that reason because I don't know that to be true. I didn't read that. But I am just like I get the sense from this guy that his vibes are not somebody who's having fun watching fun television. No. Yeah, he made a homophobic remark during a performance and then he had to apologize about it on Twitter. You can't be a male figure skitter being homophobic. Sorry. He said, hello, everyone. As you might have heard, what I said during my live was a joke. I just wanted to apologize to everyone who was affected by it and hope to understand that there was no intention of disrupting anyone and anyone of my fan base. So he's like, attention all the gay people. I wasn't trying to offend you. You can't be out here saying that. Yeah, you can't be out here saying that. So maybe he isn't watching He Did Rivalry. Fascinating. Okay, is that the last call? Because we wanted to do all Olympics calls. Are there any more? Yeah, there's one more. Wait, there's one more Olympics call. Hi, Lily. I'm doing my biannual care about sports with the Olympics. And there's a skier whose name is Alex Hall. I just have to know. Does Alex Hall the skier know who Alex Hall, the alleged real estate agent, is? or if it's more interesting to do with the other direction i don't really care crunch crunch me not in lalano cortina funny thing about alex hall the skier and alex hall the selling the oc cast member real estate agent i guess alex hall is such a common name that both of their instagrams have to like explain their job post the name alex hall so oc alex hall is alex hall oc on instagram and the skier alex hall is alex hall skiing on instagram they're both like name plus job really wait alex hall skiing really alex hall oc yes they both have to say what their jobs are they both have to say what their jobs are outside on their youtube on their instagram handles yes is there an alex hall that's famous than both of them or is just the confusion between the two well i think alex hall was just taken instagram.com slash Alex Hall takes you to just a normal person. A normal person, private account, 30 followers. If you search Alex Hall on Google, the top result is Alex Hall skier. But then what Google does is pull up photos of Alex Hall selling the OC. So it's like Alex Hall skier and then all this information about Alex Hall winning silver. And then on the other side of Google, very confusing, it's Alex Hall and beautiful pictures of Alex Hall, 37 years old, selling the OC. like google doesn't even know how what who we're talking about it's funny that like when you search alex hall again like you said you get the skier and then it says people also search for and it's just the entire cast of selling the oc it's not right and then people also ask who did alex hall have a baby with like it's like then it's like very google does not know what to do with the olympics it thinks we're still looking for alex hall but right now it's very much like alex hall skiing also alex hall skiing he goes by a hall on a hall on he's a hall and everything he's just a normal guy named Alex it sucks that he has to be in competition with Alex Hall who's very well you know I'm team Alex you know I love Alex Hall on OC now I used to hate her but what's great is if you get to the when you get to the bottom of the page it's Alex Hall from the us ski and snowboard dot org and the next link is Oppenheim group Alex Hall so it's like they literally they are neck and neck in Google's like they this is not this is not a competition either of them are going to win they are so neck and neck. It's incredible. Alex Hall age, Alex Hall Reddit, Alex Hall skier, Alex Hall skier wife, Alex Hall husband, Alex Hall Olympics, Alex Hall selling OC. Those are all the related. Do you know what I mean? It's like they're even. Yeah, I like it. Damn. I think Alex Hall from the OC definitely has. Okay, it's not who's more famous. Alex Hall from the OC has more followers on Instagram. Also, she's famous for a television show. It's way more famous than just a skier who's famous like every Olympics. But I don't think they know each other either direction because if Alex knew who this guy was and was like, oh, that's interesting. We have the same name. And also he's hot. She would follow him on Instagram in two seconds. She doesn't follow him on Instagram. And I think Alex A. Hall, the skier, is not the type of guy based on my Instagram. He's an athlete. He's constantly traveling. I think he's quite Christian because he posts a lot of stuff about like, I don't know, I'm seeing a lot of crosses. I think that this is not the audience for selling the OC. No, they don't. They're not even. He's a guy skier and she's a woman reality star. It's very rare that they're overlapping. She's a real estate agent, Lindsay. Okay. Sure. Sure. Well, if you love the Olympics, you're trying to buy a house in the OC. Maybe you would understand both of these to be important to you. did you hear the video of faye dunaway yelling at um what's her name kyle richards daughter who's the real estate agent no i guess farrah is kyle richards's daughter yes and she works at the agency with their husband with the dad who owns the agency who is the stepdad called the agency and they also had a reality show on netflix called buying beverly hills which i don't know if it still exists guess farrah is selling faye dunaway's house and faye dunaway is mad at farrah for like leaving the front kind of dirty. And so Faye Dunaway, the real Faye Dunaway, not Bowen Yang, the real Faye Dunaway left Farrah a voicemail and Farrah posted it on her social media. And I cannot believe she did this. No. And listen to Faye. You didn't hear this? Listen. No, I need to hear it. Yeah, Farrah, why does that not surprise me that you aren't available and you're out somewhere in your bikini and we are here with an absolutely filthy carport with people coming to see it and then lied to and told, oh, they're interested. They're not interested. Curb appeal is important. And I called you the other day and then talked me out of it. And I'm very, very upset with you. I'm very disappointed in you. I mean, you must be, you must understand what it takes to sell a house. It's certainly not some dirty old stupid farm, you know, carport somewhere. And he's tried his best to clean it. And I haven't been told in time. I mean, what kind of attitude is that? What kind of approach is that? What kind of campaign is that? I mean, you have to have curb appeal. You have to look great for the people. I don't understand why you don't feel that or understand that you're supposed to be one of the best realtors around. He thinks that anyway. So why didn't you make sure that house was impeccable before the first person put a foot in there? Why didn't you? You did call me back the other day, but now, you know, I'm at my wit's end because I really feel awful. Don't you understand that, you know, someone who's well-dressed doesn't want to walk through all of that shit and dirt and dust? Why don't you understand that? I mean, it makes me very suspicious, and I'd like you to call me as soon as you can. I don't know why you're doing this. so that is a 12 year old voicemail from faye dunaway so she's she's posting it as a throwback but she's saying that this voicemail from faye dunaway when she was an early client of mine taught me how to be better at my job so i think it's it's funny i'm like that's makes you look so bad it makes you look awful dunaway look fine it makes her look makes you look like faye dunaway is yelling at you for not doing your job yeah you probably weren't doing your job i also love that she's sort of like, and you're probably out there in your bikini and not answering phone calls. Well, Faye Dunaway has checked the Instagram. She knows. This was 2004. I'm like, I would never post this. Over my dead body would I post Faye Dunaway yelling at me for a good reason on a voice note from 10 years ago. I have to hear the beginning again because getting a voicemail from Faye Dunaway that begins with her berating you for not being available is so funny. Want to hear again. Yeah, Farrah, why does that not surprise me that you aren't available and you're out somewhere in your bikini and we are here with an absolutely filthy carport? Why does that not surprise me that you aren't available? So I guess she says in her voicemail, Hi, this is Farrah. I'm not available right now. If you'd like to leave a message. Oh yeah, you're so right. That's probably what it said. Why does that not surprise me that you're not available? Why does that not surprise me that you're not available, Farrah? Alright, you know what? If you get yelled at by Faye Dunaway and you post it, that's on you. Because I think that makes you look terrible. I mean, she did call that one person the little homosexual boy. Well, she could be right sometimes and wrong others. And I'm sure he was. Not for me to say. I'd love to hear Faye Dunaway say, where's the lie? Right? She's like, and she wasn't available. And she wasn't available. It's not defamatory if it's true. 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So historically, when the show was on in the, like, noughties, it was always normies on the show as standard, and then they would do the occasional celebrity special, often with a theme like Doctor Who or EastEnders or something. And then the show got cancelled, and then it got rebooted a couple of years ago with a new host, Ramesh Ranganathan. And in this new format, it is always celebrities. So that is the standard. However, her being on it is still an anomaly because she is definitely a tier above the very middling gang that are normally on it. We're talking reality stars, noughties, nineties pop people. That's kind of it. Soap stars. So having on it is strange. However, you do get people popping up because we as Standard just have so many quiz shows shows that have celebs on it like i'm talking daily and on a Saturday night you've got ample shows with celebs on it like blankety blank um catchphrase all that stuff and sometimes people just want to go on because it looks quite fun and obviously our girl is an intellectual girly with the chess championship etc so i feel like she just will have wanted to have a crack and sometimes these kind of more famous people do pop up. Okay, I hope that was interesting. Pop a no. Hey, Lindsay, Bobby, Timmy. Very long time, very first time, but I had to pause the pod and call to confess that I have been walking around this earth thinking there was a pop girly who called herself pink parentheses. And I don't know why. I guess until now I never, I hadn't heard anyone say her name. I just read it. And I love her song with Jade. But, yeah, Pink Panther is, that makes more sense. That's a real thing. Thank you, as always, for your service. Love you guys. Crunch Crunch. Aviyatiyong and blah. hi lindsey bobby timmy um i'm just calling to say that um today a limb from my neighbor's tree fell into our yard and blocked our driveway so we can get out and when i thought the first thing i thought was oh my god this is what lindsey and bobby warned us about like this is tree law and it just felt a little scary to be honest, but we called the city and they figured it out. But I just want you to know that my first thought was you guys and all the lessons you've taught us about tree law. So thank you for that. Crunch, crunch. My hooligan husband is at Super Bowl Media Week asking podcasters if they're hooligans. Um, some of them are. Crunch, crunch. I just listened to the whole Tuesday episode and not one mention of Jigglypuff. Put a quarter in the jar. Doshi has had her jorts on. And today she attached a carabiner of her keys to the front of her jorts. Crunch, crunch. BEEP.