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INTRODUCING: I Need You Guys with Gabe Liedman, Jenny Slate and Max Silvestri (w/ Sean Hayes)

35 min
Nov 6, 20257 months ago
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Summary

Sean Hayes joins the hosts of the new SmartList Media podcast 'I Need You Guys' to discuss friendship, comedy origins, and advice-giving. The episode features banter about childhood jokes, social media etiquette, and listener questions about nose-picking norms in Colorado.

Insights
  • Long-term friendships can withstand professional entanglement and monetization when built on genuine connection and willingness to have difficult conversations
  • Content creators should avoid engaging with bad-faith political messaging on social media, as responding amplifies the trap and distracts from substantive issues
  • Anxiety-driven behaviors like nose-picking are normalized in certain geographic/climate contexts, suggesting etiquette standards are culturally relative
  • Early comedy development often stems from physical mishaps and commercial parodies that children observe and replicate for social validation
  • Therapy and self-processing during waking hours can reduce dream activity, indicating psychological work happens continuously outside sleep
Trends
Podcast monetization and brand integration within friend groups creating new dynamics for long-term relationshipsSocial media platforms being weaponized for political messaging using entertainment IP without creator consentMental health awareness and therapy normalization among comedy/entertainment professionalsNostalgia-driven content about pre-internet communication (landlines, AOL, chat lines) resonating with millennial audiencesRegional anxiety epidemics and stress-related behaviors becoming normalized in specific geographic marketsPhysical comedy and slapstick as foundational comedy training in educational settingsCreator disengagement from personal social media accounts while maintaining professional presence requirements
Topics
Friendship dynamics in professional creative partnershipsSocial media harassment and political misuse of entertainment contentEtiquette norms and cultural relativism in public behaviorChildhood comedy development and physical humorMental health and therapy in entertainment industryAnxiety management and stress-related behaviorsPre-internet communication technology and nostalgiaPodcast production and monetizationParenting and work-life balanceContent creator boundaries and public engagementRegional cultural differences and climate impacts on behaviorSleep disorders and ADHD in creative professionalsMedication use and dependency in entertainment industryFood safety and home cooking mishapsPolitical discourse and media literacy
Companies
SmartList Media
Production company behind the new podcast 'I Need You Guys' featuring Slate, Liedman, and Silvestri
Netflix
Mentioned as platform where Sean Hayes worked on animated show Q-Force in March 2020
White House
Posted meme using Jenny Slate's Parks and Recreation character for political messaging without consent
Parks and Recreation
TV show where Jenny Slate played character Mona Lisa Saperstein, whose image was used in White House meme
Sesame Street
Referenced for Super Grover character that Gabe Liedman mimicked during childhood school bus incident
SmartList Mobile
Mobile service offering $10/month plans for 10GB, mentioned as sponsor/product at episode end
People
Sean Hayes
Guest on episode; co-founder of SmartList Media; provided advice on maintaining friendships through professional coll...
Jenny Slate
Co-host of 'I Need You Guys'; actress/writer; discussed White House meme controversy and personal anecdotes
Gabe Liedman
Co-host of 'I Need You Guys'; actor/writer; shared childhood comedy origin story about school bus incident
Max Silvestri
Co-host of 'I Need You Guys'; writer/performer; discussed sleep medication use and ADHD management
Henry Winkler
Actor who played Jenny Slate's father on Parks and Recreation; image used in White House political meme
Nick Kroll
Guest on 'I Need You Guys' podcast episodes; mentioned as special guest contributor
John Mulaney
Guest on 'I Need You Guys' podcast episodes; mentioned as special guest contributor
Will Arnett
Executive producer for SmartList Media; co-founder of production company
Jason Bateman
Executive producer for SmartList Media; co-founder of production company
Richard Corson
Executive producer for SmartList Media
Quotes
"This show is like their group chat come to life. You get to eavesdrop as they ask each other for advice on existing in the world."
Sean HayesOpening segment
"Don't do anything. That's how you just let it, you just let it go. And I know because you feel when you're the person that the thing that is being exploited for whatever, for a missed message or whatever, and you're the kind of face of it, you can't help but internalize how personal it makes you feel."
Sean HayesWhite House meme discussion
"The thing is we all live in the same city and we all hang out even when we're not doing the podcast. But we've also, we really are like brothers and just like you guys are brothers and sister. Of course, we've gotten an argument. And of course, we've got, it just makes you closer and it makes you stronger and it makes your bond tighter."
Sean HayesFriendship advice segment
"Try not to do it in public. Yeah, you know, just try. Just try."
Gabe LiedmanNose-picking etiquette question
"I have a gym membership just to pop in and absolutely rip ones in the locker room, you know, like I pay for it."
Max SilvestriNose-picking discussion
Full Transcript
Hey Smarties, Sean Hayes here and I can't wait to tell you all about the new show from everybody here at Smart List Media. It's called I Need You Guys and it stars Jenny Slate, Gabe Leedman and Max Sylvester. Oh my gosh, they're all hilarious people. Jenny, Gabe and Max are well-established actors and writers, but they've also been best friends for over 20 years. And now that they live in different cities and have kids and responsibilities, they need each other more than ever. Get it? This show is like their group chat come to life. You get the eavesdrop as they ask each other for advice on existing in the world. Remember crazy dinner parties they threw in their 20s and make lots and lots of Jurassic Park jokes. Plus every episode they welcome a special guest into the group. People like Nick Kroll, John Mulaney, Michelle Butot, Kate Berlant and many more including me. I'm going to play you my segment from this week's episode. We spent a lot of time goofing around and just maybe a little bit of time answering a listener question. This show is a ton of fun. I hope you enjoy listening to it as much as I enjoyed doing it. Subscribe to I Need You Guys Now, new episodes every Tuesday. Find it anywhere you get your podcasts. Oh, you guys, this is so exciting. You're the best. Can we just say that? You are the best. Great. And that's all our time. That's all our time is over. That's right. Sean, I don't know if you remember this, but we, me, you and Gabe, we're working together on Q-Force in March 2020. You would have loved having me on here. I remember this. Yeah. A powerful month. But I remember right before we had to go remote to make the show over some app called Zoom we'd never heard of. You were setting up this like mic setup, I think in this room and you're like, I'm about to start this podcast with friends and we're setting up so we don't have to be in the same space. And I was like, why are you wasting time on this for? We're making an animated show for Netflix. You don't need to do this below. You don't need to do a podcast buddy. You're doing fine. I know. Really was. Miss Marlis was just born out of the, like you guys, it's like we've been friends for 20, 25 years, something like that. And we're just like, we can't go anywhere. So let's just do this and hang out. And then we're like, oh, well, let's instead of Zooming and hanging out, let's do a podcast and hang out. And then two people listen and then 10 and then it's like, well, a ball some shampoo. Anybody? Do you remember that? Do you remember those commercials? I told they took told two friends and they told two friends and so on. And so it's old commercial from the 1970s. Yes. Yes. Well, this was shampoo, it's shampoo, it's shampoo. You know what commercial from the 80s literally made me want to eat the soap and still when I think about it, my mind is like, I know exactly the one. What do you think it was? Mr. Bubble? No, Iris Spring. Iris Spring. Oh my God. Wait, why? It just seems so good. Do you remember the commercial for gleam toothpaste? No. Do you remember gleam? And she held it upside down. She's like meagle. And there's like no gleam, right? And then she and then she licked her lips and she's like, oh, it was so gross. But I was like, I'll try it. That's an artistic commercial. I wish there was more stuff like that where they read it wrong and then. Yeah, so we're playful with how reading upside down works, which actually does reverse the letters. Right. And we shoot it in the back of an ambulance because everything's backward and on the front of an ambulance. Well, one thing I was going to say is so one of the things that I think is one of the cutest things about Gabe when he was a little boy actually gave I thought about you yesterday because my daughter was like, why don't I take the school bus? And we live like four blocks from her school. I was like, I don't know. I can't even explain this to you right now. You're four, but you don't need to. Bus is like a big car, Sean, that takes kids to school, but it can be for others. I need pictures. So this. So the bus went by and what I remembered, which is one of my favorite stories from Gabe is that when he was a little boy, he was on the school bus going down the center aisle of the school bus and he tripped super hard and like fell like all the way down and then got up and went, super grover. That was what I considered to be my first joke. Super grover. He had like, yeah, yeah. And Sesame Street had like, uh, super. Yeah, super grover. And what it was was I was sitting in my seat, the bus, break super hard and every other child was totally fine. But for some reason, I like when flying like a rocket up the aisle, landed at the front of the bus, everyone was looking at me like, is he okay? I must have been like five and I had the wherewithal to be like, super. And I, that was like a real triumph for me as a comedian. People laugh. People laughed. And I came home and I bragged about it. And it was your first joke. And the reason why this is not just me having like an ADHD flare up ruining the entire podcast is that one of my first jokes was about a commercial that I saw on TV and I would go up to like adults for no reason and raise my hand and push my armpit out and go raise your hand if you're sure. Because I remember that. I remember that. I used to do shit like that all the time. Yeah. And I was like, everyone fucking loves me when I do that deodorant thing. I better like do this. I used to do a bit in high school where I would, I would have a backpack on and I would open it just enough so that when I reached to the top of the stairs, I would on purpose trip on the top of the stairs and all my books would go flying everywhere. And people would think that was the funniest thing. So I was voted senior, most likely to trip at graduation. So in the line of the 2000 people graduating, I had people like do it, do it. I'm like, I think I'm going to do it. So I got up there and he goes, they're like, Sean Hayes and the dean hands me my diploma and I tripped and purpose every step. Oh my god. I love it. Did you like take down the podium like when football players are practicing and they have to like run really hard into the thing? You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I'd swipe it kind of spear it off the top of the thing is what you're thinking of. The podium out and the principal. I was basically the podium. Have you guys ever seen those videos where like, I think it's a thing more in the south where there's a day in like pee wee football where the kids go up against their parents and they're just for tackling. It's like kind of like a tradition. So they're mostly moms. Yeah. There are some dads, but it's the kids are in full pads. So they're like absolutely cushioned like Sumo at a climbing gym. They look like comically and then it's just parents exactly and the parents just themselves just smoke their kids. So it's just their kid running and they run and it just they explode. But like nobody gets hurt and you just can sense the like catharsis in relief. That must feel so good. In being like the mom of a 12 year old boy just absolutely laying in black. Wait, that is genius. I thought where I thought you were going was that the kids were going to do it that the parents were all wrapped up and the kids get to tackle the parents. You would think all the kids have it in their head that they're like, I'm going to be the one that can take my own dad down. Like I'm actually like, I do football. He's an old man. And then yeah, every single one gets smoked. I need you guys. This is a paid ad by BetterHelp. You know, you've heard me talk a lot about my mom and how funny she was and how much we love her. But boy, was she a huge inspiration to me. 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Your emotional well-being matters. Find support and feel lighter in therapy. Sign up and get 10% off at BetterHelp.com slash smartlist. That's a better H-E-L-P dot com slash smartlist. Jenny, I think I feel like we should get Sean's input on your conundrum this week. I don't know if you heard some of it as you were coming in. I just heard the tail end. Here was my conundrum. It was a fresh I need you guys meaning I asked them for help with something which was that Did you have your period? I got it due on Saturday. Did you say I got my period? Oh, well, yeah. I thought you needed help with. Champagne? Like what do you do? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What would you guys do? Cup? No, sorry, sorry, go ahead. Yesterday the White House official Instagram, which I am not aware of, weirdly don't follow, and I don't use my Instagram at all. It is like my Instagram still, but three years ago I was like, I actually can't interact with this at all. It's bad for me. I know I need to have it for like, when I have a stand up show or a podcast or a book coming out or I wear it dressed as someone was like, you can wear this, but you better post it if you wear it. Like that kind of thing, whatever. Yesterday the White House posted a meme that is like Mona Lisa Saperstein from Parks and Recreation show that I was on. I played Mona Lisa and it's me and Henry Winkler. He played my dad and it was like my character saying like money, please. And he's like giving her the money. But underneath the image of me saying money, please a moving image, it said illegal immigrants being like money, please. And then under Henry, it said Democrats. And I was like, Gah! Well, you know what to do, which is nothing. You don't do anything. That's how you just let it, you just let it go. And I know because you feel when you're the person that the thing that is being exploited for whatever, for a missed message or whatever, and you're the kind of face of it, you can't help but internalize how personal it makes you feel. But know that everybody on the outside understands that this is unfortunately the norm and has nothing to do with you. You were just a pawn in their messaging. And I think even Republicans, even Democrats, I think everybody goes, oh, it has nothing to do with Jenny or Oh, for sure. Henry, right? You know, but I know it's weird. No, I'm just kidding. I'm the nicest man in the world. The nicest. Oh, God, I love him. I love him. But what about, what do you feel about the pressure? Like for me, I was like, oh, I shouldn't, I shouldn't respond to this, first of all, because the trap will work. Like they have like a million traps to just like suck in anyone for attention so that we're not thinking about voting rights or whatever. But yeah, measles. Right? Yeah. Can you believe measles, you guys? Measles. Jesus Christ. The marvelous Mrs. Measles. The marvelous. Yeah, that's what Cheryl Heinz calls herself. Damn. Yeah, that's what Cheryl, Cheryl Heinz is called now. But you know, isn't it kind of amazing there are people in the world and this country that have A, the time to write nasty things and B, the inclination to write nasty things. Oh, God. I mean, don't you have, isn't your day busy? Like, don't you have to work? And then what does it do for you to just write these bad things? So like, yeah, got them. And then they go on, I don't know. It's just, I've never written anything bad on like anything about anybody. I mean, just give it a, take a sip from the fountain. You're gonna want to, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, it's like popcorn. You're not just having one. I always imagine they are busy, but jobs that are, I feel like there's a lot of jobs where you got a lot of downtime. And I feel like damn sure your boss is mean to you. A customer sucks. Go on there to get a little endorphin hit by writing something mean, anonymously. Like it's just, it's, I think Sean's advice is the right to just let it, this is it and let it metabolize through. And outside of social media, there's also like the weird, like dorky second wave of like, you would get like Parks and Rec star Jenny Slee tells White House, you suck or whatever. It's just such a dorky next thing. It's like, right. But let me grow up. Like star. I was, I was, I did, I did like five episodes. How many more were there? Because I only checked you out. Jenny, I know the desire to, the desire is so strong to when somebody does you wrong or somebody lies about you or whatever. There is this, there is this incident in my life where this one thing happened and it got blown out of proportion and this one person completely, totally just lied about me. And yeah, and it was, it kind of grew and grew. And, and all you want to do is show the receipts of like, I have this email and I have this correspondence and I have this that would destroy this person's life in the sense that they would just be have egg on their face. They're like, everything you just said is completely not right. But on the advice on the great advice of my lawyer and my publicist and friends and family are like, don't do anything. I'm like, yeah, but what they did was wrong. That's not right. What that's not right to just go ahead and lie. And they're like, no, no, no, and I did that and it still kind of bothers me. Yeah, but it was the right thing to do. Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah. You know, and I really had like raw chicken on my hands while I, while I got the text, like I opened the phone with like my knuckle. I was like, my daughter loves a drumstick. I had marinated it all day. I'd never, I would have never guessed. Oh my God. She loves a drumstick. King Arthur. She just, yes, I made her like these gorgeous marinated drumsticks. Did you eat them as well? I did. And I felt great about them. So did my husband. But I had made a bisque that while we were recording our podcast actually yesterday, I guess it maybe it sat on the stove at room temp a little too long. And then I reheated it and I mostly had that for dinner. And like when I say, how do I put this? I had diarrhea all night. Sure. So to speak. Stop speaking in code. So to speak. Stop speaking in code. So to speak, you know, like translate that how you will. My husband was also ill to the point where this morning I was like, Hey, and he was like, Jenny, last night I googled, apparently he googled, what is heart attack? No, because he had such bad like heartburn and gas from the brisket. No, it was a bisque. It was a bisque. It was a bisque. It was a bisque. I like let it get cold. Then I reheated. I think I think that was it because she, because her daughter didn't have it and she's in great health today. So anyway, you should combine them and call it a biscuit. A biscuit. Okay. Love this. That's brisque. Do that. Right. It gives you both diarrhea and heartburn. It's a biscuit. But it's nothing like either the British or the American biscuit. Because a brisket bisque is one of our favorite dishes. There just hasn't been a name for it yet. And if you're hosting a bris, you could, you could have a catering service called brisket where it is, you do a bris, then you have the brisket. You spell it, B-R-I-S-K, new word, I-T. Brisket. Yeah, yeah. And then we get brisket. And then you chop off the top of the baby's penis. I need you guys. Sean, before we get to our like, um, the audience question we get each week. We haven't started yet. No, no, we're not recording any of this. No, this is right. Okay. This is a catch-up. So it feels natural. Yeah. Yeah. Now. I wanted to ask you because you're uniquely positioned to give advice on this and we need it. Do you have any tips on how to let a strong and long friendship flourish while putting it on the air and professionally entangling yourself even more, even though it is just about the friendship? Like you guys are doing fantastic. In the same vein that I had to interpret, Diarrhea, I'm going to interpret your question as how do we stay friends through all of this? Yeah. Yeah. First of all, you don't have to talk so close to the mic, Max. Second of all, I'm kidding. I'm totally kidding. At the first, you're like, no, that's a good question. Well, the thing is we all live in the same city and we all hang out even when we're not doing the podcast. But we've also, we really are like brothers and just like you guys are brothers and sister. Of course, we've gotten an argument. And of course, we've got, it just makes you closer and it makes you stronger and it makes your bond tighter. So I wouldn't be afraid to, and I'm sure you guys aren't because you know, forever, to have heated discussions about topics you feel passionate about and you get through it. And on the other side is just a closer relationship. And not that we have really. I can think of like one or two times that we've all kind of gotten into it. And that was like decades ago. Who won? Definitely not me. No, but it was all sibling stuff. And then you realize, oh God, that was so dumb. Our dynamic is a little more sexual tension. But not in any of the directions you'd think. You know, Gabe and I have been staring at each other since Y2K. Who's going to make the first move? You know, days like this, when I show up in both a turtleneck and a full length corduroy jumpsuit, you know, both of these guys are going crazy. But you guys are having a good time and you guys are going to do this forever, right? Yes. Yeah. I mean, truly, like when we got to record in person, whatever last week, maybe, I was like, oh, the more we do it, the more energized I get. I could talk, I mean, I could talk all day anyway. I kind of do walking around mumbling. I know me too. I told my therapist, you know, that she gets a break because I just lay it all on Scotty. Like, I don't stop talking during the day. I'm like, what do you think? Wow. Do you look at those mountains in Burbank? Do you think that like they ever had a snow cap on top? Like just endless dumb shit. Yeah. Jenny doesn't have dreams because everything gets processed while she's awake. There's nothing left. That's funny. That's what my therapist told me is the reason why my dreams are so boring. Like the other night I had a dream that I was taking the SATs and I was waiting for my result. The reason why it's so boring is I'm waiting for a sandwich or, you know, just stuff like that. So you dream in black space? I just process so much during the day that when it's time for me to go to bed, it's like my psyche can't even think of anything. So it's just like, SAT. Jenny used to fall asleep in cars pointing at herself. It was such a weird, like weird rigor mortis, but also just such like a weird, like a baby I'm unplugging, but I'm still here. But yeah, it just was fully. What does that mean? Why are you driving? We were in a van on the way to do an improv show somewhere in college. But this that was probably when I started screaming about it. Yeah. Yeah. So good. If I were flying even five degrees, I'm out. No one's really no one falls asleep faster than me. It's crazy. If I what about you, Max? I have to be put down like a wild horse. Yeah, you gotta get tranked, right? Okay. Yeah, I'm ambient and and, you know, all sorts of real. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's for 15 years. That's great. Wow. Yeah. And and and you think you still need it, ambient? You know, whenever I like once a month, try to take a night off and can but have like the worst night like wake up like I just, you know, cross the Delaware by boat. I have messed up. I have ADHD. So or something self diagnosed. Yeah, same. And so if the second I watch a movie or TV show, I'm out in like two minutes because I have to focus on something. But then if I take that nap, I'm up, I can watch the whole thing. But it's just like the initial or reading a book. I'm like one one paragraph I'm out. We should take our voicemail, right? We have an audience question and Sean, we would love people ask us for, you know, advice because we're we have everything together figured out in life. Yeah. And we're saying I was going to call and leave one leave a message. You should. You should please do. Yeah. Where should you point when you're sleeping? Yeah. You already know. That's a good one. My grandmother, Nana Connie called the Boston Globe one time and told them they should do more more stories about that actress, Jenny Slate. She really did. And then the reporter told me. Did you say my anaconda? My Nana Connie, my grandmother. Oh, Nana Connie. Yeah. And they were like, is this because they could see the call or color ID? I love that. That's funny. And it says Jenny's Nana is what her color is. Okay, okay, let's listen to this question from a listener. Hi, I just saw your post on Instagram. And here's my question. Is there any amount of nose picking that is acceptable in some kind of etiquette idea, idea? I live in Colorado and almost everyone here picks their nose because it is so dry. And you always have stuff going on. And then it's also an anxiety thing. And everybody's anxious. And I would rather someone pick their nose than like do other bad things that come from anxiety. But when I see people really going at it or like cranking up their elbow, it really bugs me and I cannot, I cannot tolerate it. And there's all kinds of things around that. Like what do you do with what you get out of it? You know, out of your nose. Oh yeah, what you do with what you get out of it. It's a beautiful put that on a month. Yeah. It's what you do with what you get out of it feels like an inspirational saying or like a pillow. But wait, what? So this is these are the high bra questions we got here. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's a pretty easy one. We probably shouldn't do it. That was Dostoevsky herself calling in. I don't know that it's easy. I don't think it's easy. Okay, wait, what's your answer? So I realized as I was listening to this question, there is something weirdly, I think worse about working from the outside in than working on the inside. Does that make sense? Like a little pinch in the middle. A little pinch in the middle kind of feels like, like you're managing. But when you know that better. The vaudeville hook. You can't have that. If you're working on something in the like the lobe, I don't even know what you call the larger. I'm like, well, that's gross. That's gross. The nostril, like if you're on like the side of the nostril picking something. Yes. Weirdly in my head, I'm like, I wouldn't do that in public. I wouldn't want someone to see me in my car doing that. But it is an incredible feeling once you clear that out and you can breathe. Do you ever watch videos where they pull out massive amounts of mucus from noses? No. My mouth waters. Yeah. It does. My mouth waters. Oh God, that that looks like it feels so good. The satisfaction of clearing out your nose. I mean, I've definitely seen people like going crazy on their noses in their own cars. And I understand that, you know, like there are people doing, you know, they're like popping pimples and stuff because they feel that they're alone. That's fine. It's your car. You know, don't do it when someone else is in it. But when you're free, when you're out in the world, I really, you know, this is interesting. I think because I think it's the car thing because people feel more confident because if if somebody sees you do it, you're like, fuck, I don't care. I'm going to drive away and never see this person again. But if you do it, you know, in public or like in a house with other people watching, you're probably more discreet about it because you're stuck with that person in a room. Yeah. Oh yeah. Of course. I don't know. What do you think about that? I have a gym membership just to pop in and absolutely rip ones in the locker room, you know, like I pay for it. And so I have a couple around the city and I'll just just park, get the validation, go into the locker room, absolutely get screwed up up there and then and then just go. I was such a nose picker when I was little. It like that was something I really had to like learn to like knack it off. Did you flick it or wipe it? I flicked it. Oh yeah. Yeah, you gotta flick it. And I remember having to be like, okay, this is unacceptable to other people. I still think it's normal and fine. I think I knew not to let people see me doing it, but I do think it's really satisfying and that it's okay. It's your own body. You find a private space to do it. Like if you have like a dry booger and getting it out, that feels great. I think the answer is you should really try to know. Well, this is what I would say. Try not to do it in public. Yeah, you know, just try. Just try. Yeah, don't do it in public. I don't do it in public and definitely don't like it. Yeah, I'm sorry about Colorado's anxiety epidemic. I know it's tough to pick which brew house and pizza place to go to or whatever because there's four on every block, but you'll figure it out. I saw the clip, the promo clip for I Need You Guys and Jenny, you brought up such a funny thing about getting your own phone or something. You're like, remember when you got your own phone it was such a big deal and Gabe, you said, and then your family would listen in or something? Jenny's dad listened in. Yes. All the time, right? My mom would do that too. I remember that as a kid, like the landlines. And one time I went down to the basement and I called some gay chat group line. You know, remember those from the 1980s and the 1980s or whatever? Singles are waiting to party on the landline with you. And you're like, oh, I'll try it. And I thought it was being real discreet. And then my mom got the, it was like $3 a minute or something. And then my mom got the phone bill and she called it before confronting me. And she was like, what is this? And I was like, I don't know. I mean, I was like, I'm trying to call, I'm trying to call my friend Randy. Yeah. And I must dial the wrong number. And she's like, dialed it five times for an hour, you know. But you could never get away with anything on a landline. God, no, no. Well, before Caller ID, you could definitely prank call. You could do that. Yeah. Oh, that's right. You could block your number. Block your number so you could get away with anything. Can you do that on cell phones now? I don't know. I think so. I mean, there was a time when I asked you for a friend. Yeah. My friend Randy wants to know. Randy needs to know if he can block. Yeah. Because he likes to party on the phone. We're gonna get a number. With a block number. The number we knew about that we would call it like if we were like there was a pay phone somewhere and you could only listen to like 90 seconds before it made you pay. 1-800-RED-TITS. And what? I don't know who like knew that, but it's like also why is that? Why not red nips? Why are all the full titties all red? That's they're all red. That's the whole thing. They're red. They're bright red. They're the same. So there's no change in tone. It's just an absolutely fire engine. The whole thing is red. Oh, I once got a $750 AOL bill because I thought I had and my parents were like, why do we have a $750 charge? And it was because I would we had a second line that I quietly co-opted for AOL. And but I didn't know that the 43 hours had run out or whatever because we would get those discs in the mail. Yeah. And truly it was because I would leave my computer on overnight to download a .jif of like Tiffany Amber Thiessen, you know, like sitting on the hood of a Porsche, but it took 15 hours for like a half a megabyte file and cost my parents $800. Sorry, mom. By the way, before we go, if you're looking for affordable plans for anything, SmartList Mobile is $10 a month for 10 gigabytes. You're kidding. Thank you guys. What a pleasure to be on your show. Sean, thank you for coming on our show. It was so good to see you. I miss you. I love you guys. I miss you too. Oh, come on. Thanks. You guys are cheese. I love this so much. We do too. We love you. We love you. We'll be doing it. Okay. Bye. Bye. What an angel. That was so fun. I love Sean Hayes. He is one of one of the greats. Boy, I think that's this the living room he or the room he was setting up in at the beginning of the pandemic. Great bookshelf. Great setup. Beautiful bookshelf. He also had a sort of a kitchen island moment too for table reads where you could see like a living room behind him. I don't know. I would suspect that you guys feel this, but like there are moments in like, I don't feel that it's normal to be able to talk to Sean Hayes. I know. Like, to be like, oh, yeah, like look into my future and be like, yeah, I get to talk to one of the funniest people on TV. And he knows my name and in fact has like helped me have a podcast. That just was like kind of blowing my mind. And I didn't want to say it to him because I felt like I would start crying. So I'll just tag it on the end here. But it's just like, you know, remember that like episode of Will and Grace where it was like the real share? Of course. Oh my God. Like I just remember being like, yeah, he's like a gold medalist of comedy. Jenny, that is great. Okay. I so Daniel and I, my husband and I, we've rewatched the old Will and Grace many times over our tenure. So like, and he always makes fun of me because while we're watching it, I will mumble under my breath. Olympic level. Olympic level. Whenever Sean lands a joke, it's just like, it's crazy. The writing is hard to say that character is like hard to play. And then he was doing like backflips and all this physical stuff. Absolutely crazy. Like sometimes like the first time I went to like a table read for a show and was like, oh, you like, I didn't really know what it was. Like get what? So if you don't know, like, if you're on TV, there used to be a time they don't really do it a lot now, but it used to be especially on like a sitcom, but also animated stuff before they would film or record, you would all sit around like a table and everybody would like perform the script and like for the executives and you would like really want people to laugh and like see if it works. And it was kind of a lot of pressure. And it was really important. And anyway, the first time I did one, the thing I thought and it was a six successful table read on my way out, I was like, Oh my God, the people that got to see Sean Hayes and Megan Mullally do table reads must have like been crying. Like they must have like known that they were like a part of something. One story I meant to tell earlier just to wrap it up to let you know how where I am as we head off into our days is that you were talking, you mentioned, you mentioned Dean Cain, Jenny. Yeah. And a month ago, I was looking at my phone and I said to my wife, Oh wow, Trader Vicks is reopening in West Hollywood. And she's like, what's Trader Vicks? And I like love like Tiki cocktails and love kind of like LA divey spots. And so I started explaining to her, I was like, well, it was kind of this like, now there's a lot of them, but it was sort of this hot spot in like, I think the fifties sixties and it was like, you know, Dean Martin and his crew would be there. It was sort of like, you know, Dean Martin's hanged, but I accidentally said Dean Cain. So she was like, I'm excited about Trader Vicks. She's like, what's Trader Vicks? I was like, it's the sort of like Tiki lounge. It like, we're Dean Cain used to hang out and it was kind of like Dean's crew. But I'm saying she, but she, and to her credit was just like, Oh, cool. Yeah. I would be like pretty excited about a restaurant where Dean Cain used to hang out reopening famously his crew of lounge lizards. The coolest. Yeah. The coolest. And coming up next, Dean Cain will be batching up some Tiki drinks. Riding in here on a big old lounge lizard. He's sitting on one of the big stegosaurus spikes. This was fabulous, you guys. I love you. It really was. Gosh, I love you guys so much. And is there anything cool you're going to do before you see us all next? I'm going to send the White House some memes. Oh, we're taking our baby to a pumpkin to like a big light show at the Skance of Gardens tonight. Pumpkins Halloween. Yes. You might dress him up in his costume. Yes, you should. That's so nice. I'll send pics. Wow. Bye guys. Bye. This show is called I Need You Guys and it starred us, Gabe Leedman, Jenny Slate and Max Sylvesterie. It's a production of Smart List Media. I Need You Guys is produced by Ann Harris, Josh Richmond and Devon Torrey Bryant and edited by Josh. Music is by Devon. Executive producers are the coolest people in the world, Gabe, Jenny and Max. 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