Hour 2 – Chris Mannix, Who Cares about the NBA All-Star Game?

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Chris Mannix from Sports Illustrated will join us. 877-3DP-SHOW. Email address dp at danpatrick.com. Our Twitter handle at dpshow. Stat of the day is always brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the DP Show. Keep your friends close, your neighbors closer. Kiki Palmer stars in The Burbs, a new original series streaming now only on Peacock, which is where you'll find this program. Also, the NBC Sports Network, 877-3DP-SHOW operator Tyler is sitting by. At the end of last hour, I had a phone call. Rich in Chicago was basically telling me to stay in my lane, talking about C.J. Stroud with the Texans, and I wouldn't extend him. Not now. I want to see another year. Because do I want to give him $60 million, or do I want to bolster the offensive line? Because you might not be able to do both. But they've got a couple of skill position players. Mixon got hurt. But Tank Dell, you know, Nico Collins, Schultz, you know, they have some players. And they were a playoff team. And they are a really good defensive team as well. So they're not that far away. But we had a caller who thought that I was casting aspersions on C.J. Stroud as if I was making this personal. I'm just telling you what I feel when I'm watching this. I have no bias whatsoever. Hey, if he's great, pay him $60 million. Couldn't care less. Yes, Eaton? The best part of that discussion is that it's essentially no one wins. No one's wrong. You know, all right, you're going to pay him, pay him, see what happens. Yeah. Or don't. Okay, and then don't. There really is. It's almost like there's no point to it in some regard other than, like, do you like C.J. Stroud as a quarterback right now or not? Yeah, and I brought up Bryce Young, that I wouldn't extend him either. That's not a great comparison, by the way, if you're like, CJ Stroud is one of the best quarterbacks in the league. What are you talking about? What are you going to pay Bryce Young? Ah, man, that's not who you start with when you're comparing him to great quarterbacks in the league. Well, Bryce Young did make the playoffs. That's all. I mean, I get why you would compare them, but that's not the one that you want to make. But if you're at that point where you've got to make a decision, I'm not extending either one of those guys early. I want you to prove it, and it might be prove it for two years, but he has shown glimpses, certainly his first year, but 19 touchdowns, maybe eight interceptions. That's not a franchise quarterback. But blame the Texans. Blame the front office. They're the ones that didn't bolster, fortify that offensive line, and that goes back to what I've said about Andrew Luck. If you spend $100 million on your quarterback, and you spend $100 on your offensive line, we know how this ends. And I kept saying it's malpractice what the Colts were doing. They didn't build the offensive line when they got Andrew Luck. This is what Vegas should be doing. The cautionary tale for the Raiders should be Andrew Luck and the Colts. Yes, Marvin. And back to your CJ Stroud point, Troy Aikman was talking about this during the playoff game. Like, look, the Texans have decisions to make going into the offseason. And if you want to pay this guy $60 million after throwing four interceptions in a playoff game. What's Troy know about playing quarterbacks? And money. Yeah. Yes, Todd? I don't understand how he got so crazy with you like that. There was no bashing involved. You were just, you know, giving your opinion like you're supposed to. I think because I brought it up to a couple of different guests. But, you know, this is a fact-finding mission that we have sometimes, where we actually try to get answers from people, analysts, experts. and that's why I asked the question. Somebody may come back and say, you know what? He's one of the best quarterbacks. They'd be crazy to move on from him. They'd be crazy not to extend him. Okay, then I give you that opportunity. I don't know what your answer is going to be. You may fire back and say, that's ridiculous. Okay, but I ask the questions because I'm curious about what the answers are. All right, Seton, poll question for hour two. Man, I'm fired up and ready to go. Yeah, I think it might be. Are you paying C.J. Stroud or not? Actually, I think we are going to do that. We have up there right now, would you rather a player 60 games for 15 years or 82 games for 11 years? Right now that's hovering at about 69% with 82 games for 11 years. Of all the jersey numbers that Todd got with the San Jose Sharks, he got the number 69. It was fun. Yes, Marvin. And also when, so Joe and Rachel, who got everything together for us, they were like, hey, what jersey numbers do you want? And I said, can you give me 13? And Todd said, hey, can I get either 10 or 69? Do you really think they were going to give you number 10 if 69 was the other option? Yeah, the fact that I just put that out there as an option, I guess they kind of ran with it, as producers should do. But why did you want the number 10? Because I'm 10, 10, 69, and I like the number 10 a lot. I had number 10 in Little League because I loved Chris Chambliss growing up, and I played first base. There's a lot of connections to 10. It's a nice round number. Not as round as 69, depending on the situation. Oh, nice. And that led to the inappropriate text message that you sent to your wife with your kids on the text mail chain. Yes, I sent a photo of my Fritz 69 jersey on the ice at the SAP Arena at the Sharks Place where we were doing the shooting, riding the Zamboni. And then I said something along the lines of, you know, I'm sure you missed me this whole week that I'm on the road in San Francisco, so maybe we can incorporate my jersey in some fashion. I kind of left it at that, and then I realized that she was not the only one on that text, and Mario helped me delete the message as soon as possible. But your kids did see it. It's quite possible. They have not brought it up either out of embarrassment, shame, not put me on the spot. Oh, they're not bringing it up. They're just pretending they didn't see it, or maybe I deleted it in time where they didn't get it. I don't even know. Joe and Rachel, they were responsible for our sets. You know, the look of the show when it's on the road, they do a wonderful job. Again, shout out to Rachel, who is pregnant with twins, but they are wonderful people, and whenever you see the show on the road, they're responsible for that look. All right, 877-3DP-SHOW. We'll talk to Chris Mannix about tanking and the All-Star Weekend. Chris in Syracuse joins us now. Hi, Chris. Thanks for holding. What's on your mind? Hey, thanks, Dan. Yeah, I got a couple things for you. You know, leading up to and before Super Bowl 60 was even played, ESPN had constant self-serving promotion in Super Bowl 61. It was kind of embarrassing. And a couple NBA items. I think James Jones may have been a little light with the suspensions he handed out for the Pistons-Hornets melee. I mean, you can't have players throwing punches. I mean, someone's going to get seriously hurt. I mean, just look at Kermit Washington. Rudy Key is a prime example. And the NBA is really trying to find ways to increase the interest in the All-Star weekend. but what they really should be worrying about is increasing interest in the regular season. And I don't think the NBA Cup is the answer. And another thing Adam Silver should be worried about is Giannis being an investor and public partner with a gambling site. I mean, the optics on that look awful. Yeah, I saw that. Not good. By the way, I did see the ESPN promo, the commercial for the next Super Bowl, Super Bowl 61. Countdown's on I'm going to guess I'm going to find where the Super Bowl is At some point I don't know if I need a heads up now Where is it going to be, just for the record? ABC and ESPN So not ESPN though, but ABC ABC and ESPN But I already saw it The commercial for the Super Bowl Yes, Todd So kick off in 361 days? Is that where we're at? I just want to make sure my math is right Pre-game starts next week Josh in San Antonio. Hi, Josh. Hey, Dan. As a longtime Spurs fan, I just want to call in. And even though it did work for us in extended careers for the big three, especially Tim from 99 to 14 for those championship years, I want to solely take responsibility for load management in the NBA. You can blame us and you can blame Greg Popovich and Spurs franchise. On a second note, as men of culture usually do, I was scrolling through Facebook watching highlights like you do, and I came across an old SportsCenter commercial where Stone Cold Steve Austin is sitting in the break room, and you smack him in the back with the steel chair twice. And I was curious if you could kind of take us behind the scenes. How many times did you have to hit him? Were you worried about the force you had to use? I'd love to hear your take on that. All right, Josh. Yes, you can go on the Internet, and you can see that commercial where I'm at my desk, I get up, it's late at night, and I go in and Stone Cold Steve Austin is sitting in the break room and he needs to pick me up and he wants me to grab a folding chair and smash him in the back. And I thought, okay, I like the premise of it, but then he put a small pad in the middle of his back and he said, just hit me right there. And I said, I don't swing a metal chair very often here, Steve. He goes, just hit me. You hit me right there. I'm okay. Well, the first time I did it, bang. He goes, you got to hit me harder than that. I go, okay. So then we do the commercial again. I grab the chair and smack him. I'm going half speed. And he said, you got to make it believable. I said, okay. So I grabbed the chair again, three quarters. And he goes, harder. I go, oh, damn it. Okay, here you go. and then I swung as hard as I could and there was a bulletin board there and the papers were flying because I created some pretty good force there smacked him right on that pad and he goes, hey, Dan but then there was one where he said, can I have another? and I'm like, alright and he was great but Wieden and Kennedy, they take all the They deserve all the credit. They came in and just said, this is what you need to do. And this is the premise of the commercial, and they did a spectacular job. And those live on. They're evergreen. They live on forever. They're always fun to revisit. Xavier in Tampa. Hi, Xavier. What's on your mind? I'd like to give you my idea about ending tanking in the NBA. All right. You're away with the lottery. You're rewarding teams who don't want to get better. 16 teams that make the playoffs, 14 are in the lottery. Again, get rid of the lottery. Give the number one pick to the best record that didn't make the playoffs, and so on down the line. That way teams are trying to get better constantly. Yeah, I've offered that up to the commissioner before, Xavier, but thank you for the phone call. Backroom guys just sent me a list and said, all right, what quarterbacks would you take over C.J. Stroud? So I got 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. Let me see are there more than that So there 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 Wow Okay. So far you would take 20 quarterbacks over C.J. Stroud? No, I'm looking at the list here. Because if I said, all right, Matthew Stafford, you're taking Stafford. For how many years? One year. Josh Allen. Dak Prescott. Drake May. Justin Herbert. Trevor Lawrence. Sam Darnold. Caleb Williams, Jared Goff, Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, Got Love, Purdy, Baker Mayfield, Bo Nix, Jalen Hurts, Jaden Daniels. Anybody, is there any quarterback that you would remove that you would not take over C.J. Stroud? There's Cam Ward, there's Jackson Dart, Kyler Murray, Bryce Young. Those would be questionable there. Yes, Paulie? I wouldn't take Jordan Love over C.J. Stroud or Baker Mayfield. or those off the top of my head. I think if he was on a good team, C.J. Stroud, with some blocking and some talent around him, a decent defense, he would do great things. Well, he's got one of the best defenses in football. Yeah, yes, he does. He gets the ball back a lot. But, like, it's been brutal. I would just say, like, when his rookie year looks so good, it's still got to be there. There's something still there. And a guy like Jordan Love, I don't know if I've ever seen him max it out. Well, you know, Chris Sims came pretty close to saying that he would take Malik Willis over Jordan Love. He wanted to. He came pretty close. He knew that was going to go viral. Be like, and I like Malik Willis. I think he's a starter in the league. I do. Yes, Marvin. Just the last group of guys that you mentioned, those are the only group that I would take over. I would take CJ Stroud over. The rest of them, toss up maybe. Well, you'd take him over Cam Ward, Jackson Dart, Kyler Murray, Bryce Young. That's what you're saying. Yes. But nobody else on that list. You would take Bo Nix over him? Baker Mayfield over him? Like if they just switched quarterbacks? If those teams switch quarterbacks? Is that what you're saying? Yeah. Well, I might take CJ over Bo. Okay. Yeah, I'm not saying they give up on him. I'm saying I wouldn't extend him now. That's it. It's just a business decision. I couldn't care less about the Texans. If he plays well, great. If he doesn't, great. It's content. I don't care. But if he gets the opportunity to go back to where he was. I'm awfully upset for somebody who doesn't care. I hate when people do that. You just played right into that dude's hands somehow by getting upset and then listing 35 quarterbacks you would take over him and be like, see, he told you. It's the beauty of this show. I never know what direction we're going in because it's not scripted. Okay. Take a break. Chris Mannix is going to join us. We'll talk about something exciting like tanking. Yay. And we'll ask him the poll question. We'll take a break. This is hour two on this Thursday. Dan and the Dan. That's Dan Patrick Show. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick Show weekdays at 9 a.m. Eastern, 6 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio app. Stugatz here. I have a podcast empire. It continues to grow. And I have brought it here to iHeart. 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Listen to Valley of Shadows on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Now I'm being inundated with C.J. Stroud stats. Just to let everybody know and give you a refresher, I wouldn't have extended Kyler Murray. I said that in the moment. I wouldn't have extended Danny Dimes with the Giants. I got to, you know, there has to be a proof of concept here. I've got to realize or find out if this is sustainable. How good are you? I'm going to give you $300 million. Sorry if I wait a year or two. Now, you can extend Josh Allen because you have confidence in Josh Allen and Joe Burrow, and that happens after, like the Patriots, after next season, will probably extend Drake May. They would probably be happy to do that. There are certain quarterbacks where I say, just like Tua, Never would have extended him. But I said these things in the moment. Just so everybody knows, I'm not picking on C.J. Stroud. Chris Mannix, Sports Illustrated senior NBA writer, and he contributes to NBC Sports covering the All-Star Game this weekend. Seton, you want to give Chris the, do we have an NBA poll question today? We do. We do, in fact. We have, would you rather a player 60 games for 15 years or 82 games for 11 years? Right now, we're at about 70% of the audience would rather 82 games for 11 years. What would you do, Chris? We know load management is here to stay, but if I can give you your guys, let's say your star, he's going to play 65 games, but that extends him four more seasons, or are you getting for 82 for four less seasons? Well, the 65-game player, does he get the playoffs too? Yeah. Because then that's the ball game there. I would much rather have the guy for four extra years playing 65 regular season games if I can get him for the postseason. For a contender, the regular season is close to irrelevant when it comes to that. How did we get to this point, though? the tanking point of where teams are just load of the league no just load management that but also load management ties into tanking as well uh so how did we get to this what came first load management or tanking i think load management came first and a lot of it begin began if you want to find a spot in history with the Greg Popovich San Antonio Spurs who were aggressive in resting their stars we all remember that great I think I still have a picture of that stat sheet where it said Tim Duncan DNP rest which is one of the early days of just straight resting guys and that was what the Spurs did in the early 2010s and teams quickly adopted it after that you know with the back-to-backs if you get an older player you you're going to limit his minutes that and then Kawhi Leonard comes around 2019, and Toronto wins a championship by load managing him. So I think the success of one team begat more teams doing it. The success of the Raptors begat more teams doing it, and it became part of the fiber of the NBA. Who is going all-in tanking where it's not reading between the lines, it's just blatant? There's more than one. I mean, Utah to me is really curious about. So, yeah, Utah is the most glaring example because of how they're doing it. Like Utah is trying to throw games at the end. Like simple as that. Like that game they had against Orlando on Saturday, they were up by 17. I think it was at one point seven at the end of the third. And they tried to throw the game and succeeded against Miami on Monday. They tried to throw the game and failed because Kyle Filipowski and Bryce since Bob made a bunch of shots, and that was how that went. But they have tried multiple times in the last week to lose games in the fourth quarter. Now, last night, I hate-watched the Kings-Jazz game last night just to see what would happen. Of course, they boat-raced Sacramento. That was predictable. But the way that the Jazz have been doing it has been the most egregious. But they are far from the only offender. Like people know Trey Young could probably be playing basketball at this point. Indiana, which is just as egregious right now as Utah. I mean, Avika Zubak gets acquired. He had been playing through what was determined a mild ankle sprain and now that ankle sprain is so serious that he got to sit out for an extended period So the Jazz because of the fact that they playing their guys and then benching their guys they are front and center, but they are far from the only offender. Dan, this is the first time in league history that we've gotten, we're before the All-Star break, and roughly a third of the league does not care about winning games. That is a five-alarm fire for Adam Silver to address. Okay, what's solvable? What's a solution here? Well, let's unpack it from a couple of ways. Short term, one thing that the people in the league that I've talked to have been pushing for is a fine with a warning, right? So you go to Utah, Washington, whoever, and you say, all right, $750,000 for trying to lose games. If you do this again, we're going to dock you a couple of second round picks. If you do it again, we are going to reduce your lottery odds. This is something that's come up from a couple of executives. If you finish the season with the 14% chance of landing the number one overall pick, we're going to slash it. We're going to take away some of your ping pong ball combinations, which is within the purview of Adam Silver to do. He can unilaterally do stuff like this. So short term, they want to see him threaten a big stick to some of these teams because there is 25-plus games left in the regular season. As far as fixing the problem, there are two camps in this. One of the camps says, let's just keep putting Band-Aids on these bullet holes. This is what they've done over the last 10 years. They've tweaked things. They've added the play-in tournament. They've flattened the odds. They've done things to try to save the system. And those people say, hey, if you eliminate lottery protections, good luck getting that past the general managers, but if you eliminate lottery protections, that's going to take away a lot of these things. If you say a team cannot draft in the top four for two consecutive years, that's going to solve a lot of problems. There's some people that believe that. There are others that say the system is broken. It needs to be taken out into the woodshed and shot. Like just blow up the whole system and let's all get into a room this summer and figure out something else. Those are the two camps right now, and those are the two sides that are, as we speak, lobbying Adam Silver about these changes. But how do I know if somebody is tanking? How do I know if Trae Young is not hurt? How do I know, you know, Anthony Davis can't play the rest of the season? I mean, what does Adam Silver do? How do you, you know, do something in a clandestine way that, ah, you're healthy enough, we saw you doing yard work here? Well, I mean, it doesn't take Inspector Gadget to see, like, some of these guys are, I mean, Trae Young had a quad strain in early January. Like, Anthony Davis, fine. Giannis Tendekumpo, if he decides to set up the season, I would say the same thing. The Jazz, again, are playing their guys. And look, the Jazz, one of the problems that people in the league have with the Jazz is that right now they're a pretty damn good team. They've got three guys that are borderline all-stars, like Jaron Jackson Jr., Lowry Markin, and Keontae George. They're not all-stars, but they're on that next tier. So if these guys were all playing, could they make a run at the play-in tournament right now? Probably not. They're like nine games back of that 10 spot. But the teams above them, Memphis, the Clippers, they're not very good. Maybe if you really put your foot on the gas that you can go and get it. So you have to almost put that on a shelf. I think you've got to use common sense in these situations. You've got to make teams, if there are injuries, you've got to report it. You've got to have medical evidence. You've got to give the league a chance to review all of it so they can make an informed decision. Talking to Chris Mannix, Sports Illustrated senior writer. The All-Star Game coming up this weekend. You okay with the format, even though we have some stars not playing? No, no, no. I don't like anything about this, anything. Let's start with the dunk contest, which, again, needs to be destroyed. Nobody cares about the dunk contest. But nobody knows who these guys are. Two of them I had to go look up. Like, I wasn't sure who they were off the top of my head. Like, this, we have gone from being able to get Dominique Wilkins and Michael Jordan to being able to get Blake Griffin and a bunch of guys that were top-tier guys to having guys like Vijay Edgecombe and Cooper Flagg say, hell no. Like, this is where we are. We can't even get the top young guys in the league to play. I think that's going to be pretty bad. Kevin Durant said something last night, and he's dead on about this. like the the usa versus the world can work in some context it could it could work in an olympic setting where there's a medal on the line you're playing for your country out there but the greatest offenders of all-star indifference are the europeans like nicole jokic can't get him to care about an all-star game luka donchich if he plays can't get him to care about an all-star game there's that alprin singun alprin singun is not going to care about the outcome of the all-star game i think it's it is but it's not the outcome chris it's the style of play in the all-star game it's just running up and down and dunking and shooting threes and you know yokich and luka that that's not their style that's why they don't care nobody cared more about the olympics than those guys did joker did so i i think if you attach an actual game to this instead of just a pickup game, those guys will care. I don't think they'll care. I think you're still going to get them shooting like half court shots. You're never going to get like high. You're not going to get like early 2000s All-Star. We've all seen the clips of those games in the early 2000s. You're never going to get that again. The NBA is searching for a way to just get something more than what they've gotten over the last few years. I can't see how this is going to be successful. I mean, the one thing the NBA could have done, Dan, that would have added a level of intrigue. And they should have done this, and maybe there'll be an opportunity in the next couple of days. I don't know what Luka's situation is going to be. Put Dylan Brooks on the All-Star team. Put Dylan Brooks on the world All-Star team. Like, you want to get people to watch? How about you add a guy that's competitive in, like, warm-ups onto the All-Star team? How about you put a guy that has bad relationships with, like, every star player in the league, including LeBron James, on the All-Star team? You want to get some intensity? Put Dylan Brooks on the world team. I'm begging the NBA. They passed on it with Kawhi Leonard. They blew an opportunity putting Shangoon on it over Dylan Brooks. Make Dylan Brooks an all-star if you want to make this game interesting. Nobody cares about Dylan Brooks. But the way he'll play. You keep talking about the style. I'm not saying they care. Do they care about Shangoon? Do people really, are they focused on the game for him? So let's just add something that maybe mixes it up a little bit. I want to see LeBron and Dylan Brooks in the same locker room. I want to see them kind of going at each other during practices. Give me a little bit of spice to this All-Star game. I have the betting lines here, so they expect a competitive game, according to DraftKings. USA getting two and a half against the world. That's the Stars team. and then the Stripes getting one and a half against the world, and then Stripes is favored over to the Stars by one and a half. So they're expecting a competitive game, Chris. What's the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over again, expecting the same result. I don't see it. Look, it could be interesting because of the format. Maybe you can get some guys to be more engaged, but I don't think a format change is going to do it. I just think there's nothing. We are on the path to the Pro Bowl is what we're on with the NBA All-Star game, and I don't think there's anything that's going to stop it. Is this LeBron's last season in L.A.? That's a good qualifier. Is it his last season in L.A.? I'm going to say no. There are options out there for LeBron James. It's not just Cleveland, although that's obvious. I think Golden State is another great opportunity. if he wants to, and that's another way to stay in California as well. What we have to remember is that LeBron James, when he signed with the Lakers back in 2018, it was about more than basketball. It was about lifestyle. It was about business interest. I don't think a lot of those things have necessarily changed. Now, two of his kids are off to, are gone. Bronny's playing with them. Bryce is in college. So that dynamic has changed to a degree. But I think that his desire to be in L.A. goes beyond basketball. Now, what will the Lakers be prepared to offer him in the offseason I think is going to be interesting. They are pretty committed to rebuilding or retooling, I guess, around Luka, Austin Reeves, a prototypical center that plays well with those type of guys. Will they be willing to make him a competitive offer, or is it just, hey, we got the mid-level exception at $12 million or whatever it may be, and we want you to stay? That, to me, is the big question. I do think there's part of LeBron that wants to stay in L.A., but he's not going to stay, I don't think, if they lowball him. Who is more likely to be playing their last games with their respective team, Giannis with the Bucs or LeBron with the Lakers? I'm going to say Giannis with the Bucs Milwaukee they entered these negotiations with other teams in good faith, nobody really denies that there was some uncertainty about whether or not they'd pull the trigger on a deal but in the week before the deadline they were talking to teams making counter proposals they were engaged in all this there just wasn't a deal that made sense for them to pull the trigger right now when the expectation is more teams can get involved in June and the offers from the current teams are going to be better. That being said, from what I hear out of Milwaukee, they're not going to spend the next few months thinking about what offer they can get. They're going to spend the next few months thinking about who they can get to bring in to convince Giannis to stay. They could have, I believe, three first-round picks to deal around the June draft. They've still got some movable contracts. You don't know what's going to shake out in the postseason, and who's going to wind up becoming available that you don't expect right now. So option A for Milwaukee is still to find that player, find that Drew Holiday, find that Damian Lillard, find that guy that can make Giannis say, you know what, I'm going to sign my name to an extension right now. I don't think they're going to find it. That's why I think it's more likely Giannis is gone at the end of the year in some kind of blockbuster deal, but that's going to be the priority. I love Dan seeing Cam Thomas last night going for 34, and there's that clip of Giannis, like, big smile on his face coming off the bench. If Cam Thomas winds up saving Giannis' future in Milwaukee, that will be the greatest plot twist in NBA drama history. Not good enough to play for the Nets, but good enough to play for the Bucs. 34. Yeah. Thank you, Chris. Have fun this weekend. You got it, Tim. That's Chris Mannix, Sports Illustrated senior NBA writer, and he'll be out there for the All-Star festivities. We'll take a break. More of your phone calls coming up. We're back after this Dan Patrick show. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at FoxSportsRadio.com. And within the iHeartRadio app, search FSR to listen live. I'm Nancy Glass, host of the Burden of Guilt Season 2 podcast. This is a story about a horrendous lie that destroyed two families. Late one night, Bobby Gumpright became the victim of a random crime. He pulls the gun, tells me to lie down on the ground. He identified Jermaine Hudson as the perpetrator. Jermaine was sentenced to 99 years. 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Hi, Collins. What's on your mind? Good morning, Dan and the Danettes. Hey now, hey now, Fritzie. Hey, CJ Stroud, he's got the yips. If he comes back with the Texans, it'll probably be the Nickelback, a.k.a. Rick M. Keel. Got a question for you. Yeah. Which NFL or NIL jersey would you like to have following the 2025-2026 season? Sam Darnold had a great chance to not necessarily a campaign but had a great sales pitch opportunity week 16 when Phillip Rivers came out of that tunnel as the comeback player of the year Sam Darnold should have come out with a jersey with a space between the darn and the old wore a darn old jersey and had a legendary jersey exchange at midfield with Phillip Rivers Thank you Collins That's a deep dive Yeah, if we go back to the All-Star game again real quick. Sure. I think that there's one part of the Americans versus, or the United States team versus the international players that I think we're missing as to why the international players don't care about the All-Star game. It's because All-Star games are a uniquely American experience. We're really the only people that do that. And if you're coming from an international experience or background, those teams would be like, why would we do an exhibition game and risk our top talent getting hurt? It doesn't make any sense. It's so stupid. We don't do all-star games. We might have all-star selections, but we don't do all-star games. You want us to play our best players in a meaningless exhibition game? Why would we do that? But here, it's baked into the fabric of our sports. Like, ah, who's going to be in the all-star game? We've got to make the all-star game mean something, and it really shouldn't. It really shouldn't mean anything. And I think that there's a cultural difference between those two things. Well, I don't think it's fair for Kevin Durant to question Joker and Luka and do they want to play hard. I can't sit here and say, boy, those U.S. All-Stars, they play really hard. They don't. It's all kind of fun and silly and shooting threes and dunking, and that's it. You'll get an interesting pick-and-roll combination that you wouldn't expect, but there's no real drama with that. No, oh, my God, that guy dove on the floor for a loose ball. But the reason Kevin Durant is being asked that question is because nobody wants what you just described. People don't want the silly, like, throwing up threes, maybe a decent pick-and-roll, like whatever. They're like, no, you're supposed to play hard. Why isn't anybody playing hard? And Kevin Durant is like, what are you talking about? I want to play hard. These guys don't want to play hard. They don't want to play hard in that format. Nobody should want to. There's no reason for anybody to actually want to play hard in that game. There's no reason for the game really to exist. Well, that's the only reason why they're trying to bring the world against the United States, hoping that you get some kind of pride that that would carry over. But I don't tune in to go, man, is he locking down such and such, or he is lighting somebody up. But there's really, all it is is you get to see them and you get to see some interesting matchups or combinations that you wouldn't normally see. That's all. But I don't know who won last year. I don't know who won the year before or the year before or the year before. Yes, Marvin. Yeah, to your point, I always disagree when you say the international guys are going to play hard, so they're just going to play for the world across their chest. To me, that's not important to them. Serbia is important to them. Canada is important to them. But the world, okay, we beat you guys in a meaningless game in February. Yeah, but this is a last-ditched effort to try to bring some eyeballs to this where you go, boy, that was fun. I'm not saying it's going to work, but I'm saying this is the last opportunity to try to get something that does sort of resemble an actual game or the spirit of a game. Yeah, Seaton. Right, and in a league that probably already has too many games, we're trying to make a meaningless one mean something. Yes. It's a fool's errand. Yes. You can't. You can't, especially now when maybe back in the day when you got to see one game and you're like, dang, imagine if these guys all played against each other. That'd be crazy. It was probably really special, but that's not the case anymore. Yeah, but you weren't facing each other as many times. Like, there's no novelty in any of these sports anymore because, you know, baseball, American League, National League, and there was pride, and they played hard in that game, and it mattered in that game. Like, I hate interleague play. Yeah, I do too. I hate that. Yeah, but that's what ruined that feeling you had in the baseball All-Star game. Yeah, Paul. I agree with everything you guys are saying, but it's what the NBA got because of this as the decades go. But then you compare it to the Four Nations NHL thing last year where that was compelling TV. People were in bars rooting on their thing. And that's a sport that's way more physical and more chance of injury, I think. and you compare that four nations to an NBA All-Star game with this one being international, I don't think it's going to compare. Yeah, but they dropped the gloves before one of the games. Yeah. I mean, that's how intense that was. But, no, you're not going to get that with the world against the United States. All of a sudden they go out for the jump ball and then they drop the gloves. Well, they don't have gloves on. That'd be wild if they had a glove. Yeah. Dave in Cincinnati. Hi, Dave. What's on your mind today? Hey, Dan. Thanks for taking my call. Just a couple things. First thing is you really ought to merchandise stay in your lane week if you're going to have all these guys on you this week. Secondly, with the All-Star game, you're not going to get these guys motivated by money or anything like that. I think maybe what you do is say the winning team has to make the losing team wear their signature shoes. All these guys get shoe deals. and if contracts negate that, then maybe the team that wins gets to doctor up the losing team shoes with like Dora and the Explorer stickers or something like that. Yeah, you can't force somebody to do that. Medical issues there with your, imagine if you got hurt in somebody's shoes. No, no. I can't make you care. You either do or you don't. It's just like you as a fan. I can't make you care about the All-Star weekend. There's nothing to care about. Yeah, well. You know, I mean, like even what? West side routes harder for the east side of the country? There's nothing to care about. It's an exhibition. Well, let's see how it plays out. In fairness to the format, let's just see how it plays out. If it was sort of like Paul was saying, the four nations, and there was four nations playing against each other, that would be awesome. But it's us versus everybody else, and that's not awesome. David in Ohio. Hi, David. Hey Dan Just had a quick comment from that Rich in Chicago guy from First Hour I think he's I think he's just mad because Survey says Dan Patrick Show beats people named Rich on Family Feud on the regular Thank you, David There won't be Any rematch In Family Feud, Celebrity Family Feud There won't But because we won That's it one and done W-O-N and done. Yes Marvin Well what if we move up against like Good Morning America or CBS This Morning? No You're done? Yeah. John Calipari one and done? No I'm good I got more stressed out doing Celebrity Family Feud than I ever thought that I would because I thought we could really go viral here in a bad way. You were nervous there I was I screwed up the rehearsal I got yelled at. I mean, that's not my lane. So, yeah, I was nervous as hell up there. All of a sudden, we walked up on the stage, and I was like, oh, crap, this is really happening. How do we play? What are we supposed to do? We're just supposed to stand there? So instead, I don't know why. For some reason, I was like, you know what? I just need to start dancing. And I just started dancing and smiling the whole time I was up there until the camera started, and then I stopped. But right up until that moment, I was dancing the whole time. No, I'm not nervous. Hell no. Look at me. When I screwed up the rehearsal question, and I'm like, oh, my God. Like, we're going to get boat raced here. Dude, you good? No, I wasn't. You weren't. And I'm trying to, you know, I know it's coming back to me, and then I'm trying to nudge Marvin and say, you know, you got anything for me? And Marvin goes, yes. He had something for him. He wasn't sharing it with me. But I couldn't because, look, they were on people. I know. You can't talk. That's against the rules. I know. I know. Eyes in show, they would have been apoplectic. They're cheating. They cheated. Right there. Final hour on this Thursday. Dan and the Danettes after this. I'm Nancy Glass, host of the Burden of Guilt Season 2 podcast. This is a story about a horrendous lie that destroyed two families. Late one night, Bobby Gumpright became the victim of a random crime. The perpetrator was sentenced to 99 years until a confession changed everything. I was a monster. Listen to Burden of Guilt Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What if mind control is real? 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