Classic #446: Anderson Cowan

And here's a throwback episode number 446, Anderson Cowan. Oh, Engineer Anderson. That's October 30th, 2016. Me and Drew discuss our Halloween plans and past costumes. Enjoy. Recorded live at Corolla One Studios with Adam Corolla and board-certified physician and addiction medicine specialist, Dr. Drew Pinsky. you're listening to The Adam and Dr. Drew Show yeah get it on got to get it on thanks for tuning in thanks for telling a friend we love seeing the ratings go up every week and we love reading all the tweets and we love all the good stuff about you guys and you guys spreading the good news what's going on Drew? the gospel happy Halloween everybody right? yeah happy Halloween y'all what are you doing? And I will be probably trying to talk my wife into marching in the Greenwich Village Halloween parade. Really? I will be heading, as we are taping this, heading out to New York virtually that day. And, yeah. Does she not want to march in the Greenwich Village? I mean, there's nothing more prestigious than the Greenwich Village, although I've never heard of it. It's a gigantic Halloween parade, costume parade. She got caught in one year and was so traumatized she never wants to go back. It's like one of these things in New York City where people are like in the streets, shoulder to shoulder, and you're pumping up against the people in front of you, and you can't get out. People are just a mass moving forward. Don't all things involving costumes that end in Village eventually get usurped by the gay community? 100%. So this has to be a gay thing? Of course. Oh, okay. Full on. Pardon me for sounding 1,000 years old, but I was just hearing your wife, who's not gay, is going to go march in a parade in Greenwich Village. Which is – for a second there, I didn't think it was gay. But people pull their kids out. It's marching it too. I mean it's not exclusively a gay thing, but they add the important color. And what – it's weird. You know, actually, I must say I think a Halloween costume is one of the few things which is to say that I don't think I would – If you just said, hey, here's a fella or a gal, you've never met them before. You said, look, here's what you got. You got one fella, one gal, doesn't do anything for Halloween, sort of refuses to participate. I'd go, I don't think I'd have a good time with that person. The person just shuts their porch light off on Halloween. Particularly if you're a young adult, particularly. Not even young adult. I don't have, don't get into qualifying. I don't have time for that person. and then you tell me this person treats it like it's the fourth of july their birthday and the super bowl rolled into one they start prepping weeks in advance i'd go i don't think i can hang out with that person either so it's a weird spectrum thing because i can't hang out you think well look then if you can't hang out the guy goes all out balls the wall then you're gonna love this guy because he doesn't do anything no don't love that guy either yeah i gotta find And someone in the middle. Which you just reminded me. I'm a middle guy. I like putting in some weird contacts. That's always a good move. Or some weird teeth or something, and that's it. Just leave it at that. I don't even know where you get. See, I never wore glasses, so I don't know how to do contacts. They've got some crazy stuff. I've got stuff that makes my sclera black, everything black. Oh, really? Maybe a white. Something only doctors can get? No, no. Anybody can get them. I put them on once. I don't know if you remember. Back when I had that daytime show, I put them on for that. And they're crazy. They cover your whole eye. I mean, getting a contact in that's that big is a chore. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. You've already crossed my threshold for calorie burning. Yeah. All right. Well, I've got another one that's just like a cat eye. Put that in. The other one's more comfortable. I had. I got what I've really come up with is sort of diabolically simple, which is I now realize I have fire suits, racing fire suits, cool racing fire suits, more than one and all I gotta do is get into them like they're coveralls and zip it up and I'm not even gonna bother dragging a helmet around under my arm or anything, that's too much, maybe I'll put the shoes on. I used to wear surgical greens. Yeah, there you go, just done. Tennis shoes, yeah. Done, I like it. So, uh, I am going to and went to Cousin Sal's party, Jimmy's Cousin Sal's party. And I had this. What I didn't realize is, and this is unfair. Don't you think this is unfair? Yes. Thank you. Good training. Halloween is its own theme. Yes. Sal and his wife, Melissa, pick a theme in the Halloween party. Oh, my gosh. And because I don't read down the emails that closely, I was saying to Mike August, hey, you going to Sal's party? And he's like, yeah. And I said, yeah, I'm going too. And I said, I got a diabolically easy idea. I just get my fire suit. I just climb in. It's actually, he's over on the west side. It's usually a little cool at night. Yeah. And it actually kind of feels good to be in your big onesie. Sure. Standing outside with a cocktail. And he goes, oh, how's that fit into the Olympic theme? Oh. I said, what? And he said, there's an Olympic theme. And I was like, oh. Bizarre. I mean, you would hope they would like it. Oh, it's Frankenstein or it's monster or it's a spider or something. Something Halloween-y is part of the theme. Well, this opens it up, but still, I would argue that we're already theme. You see what I mean? You can't pick a theme on a theme. The theme is Halloween. We already got it. We already have a reason to dress up. Oh, I hate that. Now, here's the best part about it. Because then you have to be creative. This is the best part about being American and white and a male. Mike and I then had a 11-minute conversation on, well, racing should be an Olympic sport, shouldn't it? I mean, you could be there as an ambassador at Choo Choo Racing. I mean, and I'm like, hey, Formula One's a huge sport. I mean, internationally, I mean, you know, the Olympics are international. Ayrton Senna, I mean, that guy, he was Brazilian. Well, that town loved him, boy. They closed the whole place down when he won an F1 championship. So this is an international sport. So I guess if I went as an ambassador, an Olympic ambassador, representing the racing community. And not community, but for a new Olympic sport. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Yes, Drew, you're saying exactly what I just said. And then he jumped in and went, oh, yeah, for sure, that would work. And we got very earnest about it for several off-ramps talking on the phone. And then I realized, what the hell are we doing? or I could just show up and no one would care. Right. I want to understand why they would go for something like the Olympics. Are they going for like Olympic gore? Like, you know, somebody. No, you could be. Well, they have fun. Do you actually get shot? You could be. No. Well, Drew, I don't know where your head's at, but you're allowed to dress as a scarecrow or a clown or something. You don't have to be shot. You don't have that blood sticking out of you. That's my point. It seems weird to just go as I'm going. as a soccer player. No. Unless there was something Halloween-y about the soccer player. You know what I'm saying? No, no. No, I don't. Because if you go as a gymnast, then that's your outfit. They don't need to wear a pumpkin on your head and go as a gymnast. That's your outfit. But what they're trying to spawn is some sort of creativity, whereas you go as whoever. Look, I'll give it, okay. All right, hold on. Give me an example of creativity without the gore. Why are you even asking? I was the rock last year. You were the rock. Yeah, but it was like an old photo of that one where he's wearing, he has a fanny pack. It was fanny pack rock. Yeah. Yeah. And that was a huge hit at the party. All right, you go. I'll give you an example. I'll guarantee one person is going to go as Oscar Pistorius' girlfriend who got shot. Okay. There you go. Yeah. See what I mean? Yeah, yeah. That's an Olympic theme with some blood. Yeah. You feeling me? Yeah. You smell what the rock is cooking? Oh, there we go. We're looking at Max. That's pretty funny. What was the theme? Real cheap gossip, too. There was no theme. It's called Halloween. It was a Halloween party. It wasn't one of these. It wasn't Sal's thing. No, no. The theme was Halloween. There was only one tear at this party. Yeah. It's Halloween. The only reason I asking this is that it such a generic and wholesome sort of everybody like I a gym you know it so generic I wondering if they calling out for a Halloween element to us what I'm asking. I'm just asking. The Halloween element is getting in an outfit and showing up at a party. Okay. That would be the Halloween element. Then they're aware that people will choose different outfits and add their own creative elements to them. Fair enough. What was the last thing you wore for Halloween, Drew? Again, I would wear the weird contact stuff. The last thing I really was dressed up for was for a talk show where I was Dracula. Really dressed up. That's got to be the worst part about doing any of those good morning shows. Because you have to dress up in your stupid outfit. It's some weird competition. And you can't just mail it in like I would do. You have to get the guy's got to get the airbrush out and do the stenciling and put the weird prosthetic nose on you. I could only imagine. By the way, you're filming four of the shows that day, too. Right. And it's August. Right. It's like, oh, crap. Yeah. Well, it's not August, but it's hot. But you know what I'm saying? It's hot, yes. It's way before Halloween. Huh? You're often... No, I'm talking about good morning. Oh, I see. But well, the talk shows... Good morning. All right, listen. The talk shows do it, too, right? The daytime talk shows have competition amongst themselves. Oh. And they're often weeks ahead. Oh, are they? Yeah. No, I did not. I didn't. I'm disappointed. But I don't know. Like Ellen is day in and day in and day in and day in. Yeah, they are. Some of them are day in and day in. Some are. All right. What's a good weeks in? What's a good weeks out show? That's syndicated? That engages in that stuff? Well, you're paying yourself in a corner here now. 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From kickoff to final whistle, BetOnline gives you live betting, instant updates, and in-game predictions that move as the action unfolds. Plus, elevate your play with BetOnline Casino and VIP rewards built for serious players. Prediction markets follow the conversation. BetOnline defines it. BetOnline, the game starts here. Hey, Mike, 47, Chicago. Adam, Jude, thanks for taking my call. Before I get to my question, I just got my shipment of Onnit MCT emultified coconut oil today. That's what I'm talking about. Use the promo code Adam. It's good, right? Yeah. You had it? Yeah, it is. Yeah. I'm going to go get some now, actually. You can't take more than a tablespoon, otherwise you're going to be spending a lot of time in a john. You could. Some people. It's true. Yeah, Drew. Everybody, it's funny. It's such a weird thing, and we'll get to your question in a second, but people in their gut, there's such a spectrum. There's such a spectrum. You know, there's so many people like, oh, spicy food. Oh, boy, spicy food, you know. Chris Locks Aman over there is the top of the food chain. Literally eats the shrimp tails after they've been discarded from your tempura platter. I am amongst the top two. It's like I can pretty much just put anything in and don't worry about it. But Drew... I have some weird stuff and it's gotten worse as I've gotten older and I hate being that guy. Can I say this, Drew? Yeah. You know how I like to say you're basically wired like a chick? Yeah. Women in general, a little more sensitive to this stuff? Yeah. A little more? Okay. Especially older women. There you go. You're a physician. You hear that stuff all the time. Well, you're becoming an older woman. That's what I'm saying. Mike, go ahead. Okay. So a couple, I don't know, probably about three weeks ago, my high school girlfriend hit me up on Facebook. And after 27 years, she wants to know why we broke up. Wow. And I pretty much told her because I was a 20-year-old inconsiderate asshole. I didn't know no better back then. And since then, we've been talking, and I don't know what's happening. But I guess you think I'm going down a road of reminiscent or unacquainted love, or I don't know what I should be doing. Are you looking for a relationship now? Well, she's currently separated from her husband, So we're just trying to keep this as a strictly platonic friendship thing. But, you know, the what if is always in our mind. It's really— I don't know if the what if— Yeah, it's pretty common for people to rekindle intense relationships from adolescence. That happens a lot. In my experience, those don't work out great. I'm not saying they can't, but they're sort of built on an adolescent feeling and fantasy of intensity already. and you're sort of finding that intensity that already is kind of abnormal, you know, how adolescent stuff is already too intense. And that I'm sure feels good, but really assess whether you two belong together. Like, do you really have things in common at this stage of your life? She called you after separating with her husband? Yeah. Well, actually, she messaged me on Facebook two years ago, and I just saw the message like a month ago. There's something I got to say, Drew, and I don't know, but there's something I don't like. I don't like the way this smells. Yeah, it's about right. She's desperate for relief from this misery she's in. Oh, absolutely. There's something going on. And, Mike, I don't know what your status is right now. Single? Divorce for the third time. I'm starting to think it's me. Well, it is. Maybe you don't got such a great picker yourself. That's right. Yeah, yeah. Dr. Drew told me before my pickers broke. All right. Go. I would, I would, I'll tell you what I would do. And it's easy to do. And I don't know if you guys live in the same hometown or if anyone moved away or proximity. But, you know, I got to say, like, people do a lot of stuff where they're kind of like, well, she keeps texting me. What do I do? You know what? It's pretty simple. there's a pretty simple way to kind of keep people at arm's distance. You know what I mean? They go, hey, what are you doing this weekend? And you go, oh, I'm traveling this weekend. And then you open-end it. You go, hey, I'll hit you sometime when I get back in town. You know what I mean? You just kind of, there's a way to not, you know, so everyone goes, well, I don't want to call her and be rude. No, you don't have to call her and be rude. You don't have to do anything and be rude. There's a way to kind of take people. It's kind of an interesting thing. My grandfather used to do this sort of parlor trick, which was he'd say when we were kids, he'd say like, place something in the room. You go hide something in the room and then he'd leave the room and you'd go hide something in the living room. And then he'd go, and then I'll come back in the room and I'll take your hand and you'll lead me to it. And somehow through you walking you around, he could kind of feel that you're pushing the wrong way or leaning the wrong way or whatever it is. It's a parlor trick. Anyway, there's a way to kind of guide people even without them knowing it, like feeling dissed or cut off or cut loose or something. You just kind of – we all have those people in their lives where you blink your eyes and you go, I haven't talked about that guy in two years. And by the way, if they're not responding to some pretty sort of aggressive vibes that you're putting out, then you really have a – then you know you're dealing with a problem. Well, that's a good point. And even if they're not aggressive, because I'm not suggesting aggressive. No, no, but aggressive, like clear, clear vibe. Yeah, if they're putting the message out that you're just not available and they're pushing through it, now they've self-identified at this point. Yes? Yes. All right. We're going to bring Engineer Anderson in in one second. I just want to – let me just – I'll tell you what. Since we're not going to do any more calls, I want to mow through a couple of quick calls and we'll bring him in. I would love to bring him in for line three though because that something we used to hear about a lot on Loveline I interested to hear if he still remembers All right Well let me do this Let me mop up line five and then we bring Anderson in Frank 30 Detroit Hi Adam and Drew I'll make this quick. About four years ago, back when you guys were just doing the podcast intermittently, I called you right after I took the bar exam. And at the time, I was on food stamps, and I was in a pretty bad spot, and I was convinced I hadn't passed it. And you guys provided me some very good advice that allowed me to hold on. and I eventually did pass, and I got into a good law firm, and I built my practice. And just this last week, I just got recruited to one of the world's largest law firms in Chicago. Congratulations. And they're moving down there. That's fantastic. And I wanted to let you guys know that you guys asked me to keep you posted, and I want to thank you for the advice you guys provided. It meant a lot, and I still remember it to this day, and I'm in a great spot now. Well, what was it? Because we have no recollection. No, I remember the feeling of this call. I don't remember our advice, but I do remember a call about the bar. Yes. But yeah, what was the desperate he was? Yeah, go ahead. Well, at the time I was I was in a really bad spot mentally. And I was contemplating, you know, things like suicide and things like that. And you guys told me just to hold on and wait, just wait, at least. I think Adam told me just wait to leave the results at least. And then tell yourself. Well, hey, listen, Frank, bless you. Good. Good on you. And thank you. And, you know, earlier in my career, I used to get a lot of, oh, so funny. That thing you said, so funny. It was funny. It made me laugh. Now what's much more rewarding to me is people go, hey, man, you really changed my life. You made a difference. I was in a place that was a bad place. And now I'm in a better place. And you helped. And now I can't absorb any of it. But I still like that. Do you think the humor was a surrogate for that when you couldn't really access this other service? It was a well, first off, I didn't feel like I had as much advice to give. Yeah. Number one. Number two, it wasn't really my job. It was my job to try to be funny. But I'm just asking emotionally to serve as a surrogate for the same experience. The comedy. Yeah. Did it did it did you make did it feel like you were helping and being a service to people? I'm saying. Yeah. I never you know, I've heard a lot of laughter is the best medicine. And I've heard a lot of, hey, I was really feeling down. And then all of a sudden you said this and it made me laugh and I felt better about myself. But I never really I've never bought into the, you know, like sometimes every once in a while I'll be talking to some doctor or something. And I'll go and he'll go, oh, we get together and we go to Nicaragua and we help the kids with the cleft pounds. I go, hey, you're really doing, you know, you're doing the Lord's work over there. I'm just doing a podcast. And those doctors always go, oh, no, you're doing something very important. You're making people laugh. You're making them forget about their troubles for the whole time or making them think or something. They don't mean it. I know they don't. I know because I don't feel. I always go, yeah, okay, please. Now, how much money do you want? But I never think of it that way. But if it did turn out that way in anyone's life, then good. Yeah. Okay. It's an important thing. Well, speaking of the old days, we'll take a little walk down that memory lane. Anderson, producer Anderson. Anderson Cowan is going to be in here in one quick second. Yeah, we're back. Anderson Cowan here, producer, director, wait a minute, engineer. Anderson, you know him from way back in the day of Lovelines and way up in the day in Lovelines. He's crowdfunding a project. Way up and way back. Way back and up. How many years in total, Anderson? On Loveline? Yeah. Just shy of 17. Jesus. Drew, what do you have? 35. He's got me beat by a little bit. I had just a little over 10 maybe. Think of it. I've been there 18 years when Anderson got there. Anderson's there 17 years. Is this a clean show? No. Say whatever you want. Anderson's doing a movie. He's crowdfunding a movie. It's called Groupers. I saw the online ask. It was well done. Most of those things are not very well done. Oh, thanks, Adam. So you can go to groupersthemovie.com. I didn't – now, is it through one of the crowdsourcing companies? Yes. Which one? I chose Seed and Spark, which I had never heard of before, but I stumbled across them because I thought that – we just had a baby. My wife and I just had a baby. That's what I'm going to talk about. And we had a registry, right? And I was thinking about the movie. I was thinking about the baby. We had the baby registry. And I was thinking all these crowdfunding campaigns that I've seen. I've never seen one where you could actually register for a movie. Like, we're looking for this amount of money to be able to fund the actors. I thought that it was really interesting, and I thought that I created this whole new thing, and I was excited about it, so I did a quick little Google search. Turns out these two ladies already invented it five years ago on a site called Seed and Spark. So I ended up falling in love with them and going with them. So it's like we need to pay for a lighting package. Yes. And so it is like, yeah. We need a crockpot. That's an interesting, that's a very interesting thing. I thought it was genius. I thought I was on to something, and I thought it was going to be a whole other revenue stream, maybe down, like a whole other business model that I could do. But it turns out usually good ideas have already been created by somebody else. Yeah. I've found that as well a few times. So the movie's already raised quite a bit of money, like 50-something thousand bucks. Yeah, we're a little bit past the two-thirds mark. We're going for 75K. Nice. And what length is the movie? It'll be 90 minutes. So it'll be a full-length movie. Yeah. Give us the premise. The premise is it's all about bullying and homophobia and group mentality and mob mentality, which you guys know me. You know that I absolutely can't stand mob mentality. I don't think any of us can. And the premise, the opening of the film is a younger woman in her mid to early 20s. She goes to a bar. She picks up on these two young kids. They're probably 19, 20. We find out later they got into the bar with fake IDs. And she lures them back to her van. They're thinking threesome time. They're thinking this is awesome. She ends up overpowering them with some really fancy driving and a gas mask and a canister. It's going to be a fun action scene to shoot. And she subdues them, and then they wake up strung together face-to-face at the bottom of an empty pool in an abandoned house. And they're facing one another. They come to. She uses some smelling salts, wakes them up. And she says, hey, you two have been torturing my little gay brother for years in school and saying that homosexuality is nothing but a choice. Well, here's your chance to prove your little theory. You guys have to be gay for one another before I let you go. That's the jumping-off point. I don't know if you saw Drew in the Olsen twins movie, but he's got chops. Yeah. And I'm thinking for him as one of the guys. Can we make him look young enough? I like the I like I like the premise. And for you, 75 grand is a good chunk, but it's not a lot in the movie making world. No, it's not at all. How do you budget this out? If I was smarter, Adam, I would have come up with a cheap idea to shoot a movie probably 10 years ago. But I'm not that bright and I just write whatever comes to mind. And I just started writing this one, and it occurred to me on page 30. I'm like, oh, my God, I'm writing something really cheap for the first time. This is the first movie I've ever written, first script I've ever written, where I could actually make it with just people helping. How do you budget it, though? You get people that are smart with numbers and crunching it. So the first thing we did is I put my script into a producer who budgeted it all out. He gave me a budget from $65,000 to $105,000. What are you going to shoot it on? A lot of leeway. It's digital, right? Probably an Alexa. I would love to shoot some stuff on actual film. That's a goal for later down the road. It's a camera. It's a camera. It shoots 2K. It's what I shot on my shorts on. It looks good. It's a theatrical release. It looks really good. How about those new red cameras? Red cameras are good, too, but my DP is really proficient on the Alexa. My DP, fortunately, has been working in the business forever. He works on all the Christopher Nolan stuff. He just got back from Europe. He worked on the new Dunkirk movie in the camera department. Director of Photography. Director of Photography, yeah. Oh, there's a Dunkirk movie. Yeah, it's coming. It'll be here next summer. The red gets hot. That's one of the things. That's why they call it the red. You've got to stop because it overheats. So it's hard to sometimes shoot. All these cameras are so big and bulky and 10 years from now they're going to be a joke and they're going to be free essentially. So what are some of the rewards then? Having some fun with some of the rewards. The $25 one is essentially just like you want to see this thing and you're going to buy a ticket and a digital link to it beforehand. So $25 gets you a ticket to the first screening for the supporters that I'm going to have once it's done as well as a link to the actual movie. And then the $50 range will get you a T-shirt. Cold Cockle Productions is my production company. Look at that. I brought you one, Adam. Thank you. These are very cool. These are great T-shirts. Cold Cockle Productions T as well as an embroidered patch and some stickers Just a little how do you do I am ironically this week on Friday I will be finishing the last of whatever the crowd promises I did on my movie. Wow. You still haven't done all that? Well, what would happen was is they go like, hey, we're coming to Chicago, we're doing a screening in Chicago, coming to the screening in Chicago, and then you get an email from someone and they go, I moved to Dallas. and then you go well technically this is on you but if i'm coming to dallas and you'll you'll get this too at some point at some point you'll you'll make another movie and you'll do another one of these things and you'll want the person from dallas thinking well he did come out and we had drinks before the show in dallas and he did fulfill this thing even though this person i think moved from one of the towns we're in but you do the best you can well when you did yours i mean how do you do Do you even know the number of people that actually contributed by the end of it? I don't have the grand total. We could figure it out. I think it was – for some reason, I have the number like 13,000 or something. That sounds about right, yeah. It jumps into my mind. Drew, it's totally insane, especially if you come from where I come from, when you crowdfund one of these things and you go online, you go hot. You know, you put it up and you want to talk about the funnest thing in the world. I mean, if it if it's going right. Yeah. You'd look at the thing and it'd be like, oh, we're at sixty one thousand dollars. That's cool. And then you'd go out and kind of go about your day and kind of forget about a little bit. You'd come back and it's like, oh, we're two two sixty seven. Jesus. Like we just went out. You're like, oh, my God. And then you'd wake up the next morning or five fifty five. Like you're like overnight, like crazy. This is what really rich people who play the stock market must feel like, I think. Every time I'm looking at it, I'm thinking, this is what people who have a lot of stocks are feeling. Yeah, it's just you've never seen anything like it. You don't have anything to compare it to. But, I mean, we raised like $1.4 million or something, and it was a fairly short period of time. And there was some times where it'd go up $100,000 or $200,000 in a day. Crazy. It was crazy, but we did have to fulfill. which is like me standing in someone's backyard doing stand-up that wasn't did you agree to that i came up with that i can't picture you sitting down coming up with the perks who came up with your perks i basically said uh whatever anyone else did before us is fine with us but i don't have i really have this thing where it's and i've done it i've done it way more than once like i come to your house i'll stand in your living room and i do a 45 minute comedy set and my whole thing is sort of like i am not put off coming from where i come from that somebody goes it's my husband's it's his 40th birthday i bought the ten thousand dollar perk it's huge he's gonna go nuts like i can't be put off by that yeah yeah feel the stress of like wanting to deliver no i can i do the idea that somebody would care enough to do something so thoughtful and interesting adam that blows his head up right oh yeah it did mind exploded well what i mean it's like i don't want to spend friday night in your living room and yes i do feel a certain amount of pressure like there's a bunch of in-laws standing around who have no idea who i am like i can't just show up and keep it clean there is that but there's the part where it's like where the wife is going thank you thank you thank you and i'm like thank you thank me thank no i got to eat for free you paid me a bunch of money like who for a birthday present like who i sat at a table where people are like be quiet don't talk like my whole childhood who could do this so some of the some of them are basic what's What's the most exotic reward? 10 grand, which no one has gotten. I don't expect anyone to get it, but that gives you full. In the movie world, producer is the number one. Bigger than executive producer. Producer is number one. And if this movie goes on to win an Oscar, which I intended to, they actually get the Oscar. So you go to groupersthemovie.com for the crowdfunding? I was joking there, by the way. I don't believe this movie is going to win an Oscar. Groupersthemovie.com, right? Yeah. But certainly Sundance, not out of the question. No, no. Depending on the timing. This is the kind of movie that, yeah, Sundance, this is the first thing I've written where it's like it's definitely got a cause behind it. Yeah, if you got a good theme and a good cause and a good anti-gay or anti-bullying or anti-gay bullying or whatever it is, it helps. You guys ever see Black, I know we're going to go to a call, but you guys ever see Black Mirror, the show out of the UK? No. It's like the closest thing to the Twilight Zone. It's a great show. season three just got released on Netflix. It's a fantastic show. It's a very dark dystopian future about technology really taking a turn for the worst and screwing us. And it occurred to me that Groupers is a cross between Black Mirror and South Park. It's definitely like those two are the major influences. Maybe a dusting of red state in there? Dusting, yeah, and definitely years of experience of working with you guys on Loveline and hearing the calls and hearing all the issues that are going on out there. There's no way I can write this thing if I wasn't sitting there for all those years with you guys. Well, you know, it's weird. We always had this thought of the future with the robot that was going to turn on us. Yeah. But it's not the robot. It's us turning on us using the technology. Yeah. Right. Communicating with the technology and then us turning on us. That's what Black Mirror is all about. You got to watch that. I think you'd really like it. All right. One more. Have you seen Westworld yet? I'm not. I have not gotten into it. I shall. Chuck, 34, Cleveland. Hey, Adam. What's going on, man? Nothing. I love you guys. Anderson, it's great to be on the phone with you guys, too. You guys really have, like you were just talking, you changed my life, Adam. Andrew, your show has been phenomenal to me. I was introduced to you through Howard Stern. I listen to him every day religiously, and now you have taken over that mantle. I wake up in the morning listening to Adam and Drew, the Adam show. Everything you do has been phenomenal. I love you guys. Thank you so much. You have literally changed my life. Thanks, Jack. Quick back story. When I was 19, my mom killed herself, so I've dealt with major abandonment issues. I was celibate for probably 12, 13, 14 years. After listening to your show, I kind of snapped out of it, fell in love with my best friend, a female friend of mine. She's not interested in me other than just being friends, but we spend a ton of time together. She sleeps at my house on the couch all the time. And you're in love with her? Oh, absolutely. How old are you? 34. I'm 34 now. Yikes, dude. And she knows this? Oh, absolutely. Yeah, we deal with it constantly. I step over the line all the time. Yeah, I get it. I question her sleeping on your sofa and knowing what's going on, and then it also makes me question, not that she's into you, but question what her motives are. Well, how cruel of her. Well, she needs that around. That's what I'm saying. She needs the constant adoration. Yes. But she's willing to sacrifice his happiness for that. It does not make sense to any heterosexual guy that's not attracted to a woman to have her around to make us feel better about ourselves. But women do do this. So, Chuck, you've come a long way since your mother's suicide. Why don't you keep going down this road and get into a real relationship? And honestly, if you want this girl to like you, the best move it is possible is to bring a girl home and take her into your bedroom. And this might make that one jealous. Tell her you need the sofa. It must happen. It must happen. And, you know, I had a relationship going for a few months, but I broke it off because I was hoping to get with Dominique, you know, this girl, my best friend. I, you know, kind of broke up off a decent relationship I had going because I was hoping she would, you know, can challenge and come after me. I think you actually like this limbo you're in because in this limbo, you don't have to be vulnerable. If she actually were available, then you'd be vulnerable to loss again. Absolutely. You guys have talked about that all the time. And I've never dealt with the actual law. I've never gone to therapy. You guys are my therapy. Well, no, this is not therapy. You need to go do some grief counseling. This is unresolved grief. And it's got you locked in this terrible relationship with a person that's not good. She's not good for you. She's not treating you reasonably. And years are slipping away, man. You're 34. You don't want to wake up at 42 and go, what have I done? I agree, Drew. At Pluto TV, we're celebrating Black History Month with our free curated collection of black entertainment. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. Catch award-winning films like Dreamgirls, Monsters Ball, and Selma. We must make a massive demonstration. Iconic hits like School Days and Set It Off. Plus full seasons of shows like Tyler Perry's Sisters and Power. I got you. It's star-studded brilliant black entertainment, and it's all free. It's getting good. This month and always on Pluto TV. Stream now. Pay never.