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I Make $5M/Year With 3 Businesses | Starter Story

19 min
•Aug 22, 20259 months ago
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Summary

Tim Stoddart, founder of Stozzi Internet Marketing, shares how he built a $5M+ portfolio of businesses starting from a blog about recovery. He discusses his multi-business strategy, SEO-driven lead generation approach, sales techniques, team building, and investment criteria for acquiring companies.

Insights
  • SEO-driven lead generation through targeted keyword research and problem-solving content is a scalable, low-capital business model for beginners
  • Building a portfolio of cash-flowing assets through reinvestment of agency profits creates passive income and reduces reliance on trading time for money
  • Effective sales closing relies on three core tactics: asking discovery questions, discussing price early, and confidently asking for commitment
  • Delegation and process documentation (per E-Myth principles) are critical to scaling from solopreneur to multi-business operator
  • Investment decisions should prioritize founder compatibility, cash flow generation, and evergreen market demand over growth potential alone
Trends
SEO and content marketing remain foundational for B2B lead generation and customer acquisitionMulti-business portfolio approach gaining traction among entrepreneurs seeking diversified revenue streamsCreator economy and email list building tools (Sparkloop, BeHive, ConvertKit) becoming essential infrastructureAI-powered content creation tools (Kappa) emerging as competitive advantage in SEO and digital marketingHealthcare and recovery-focused businesses showing strong evergreen demand and investment appealTask management and team collaboration tools (Slack, ClickUp, Loom) critical for managing distributed teamsFounder-market fit and personal alignment increasingly valued over pure growth metrics in investment decisions
Topics
SEO Lead Generation StrategyMulti-Business Portfolio BuildingSales Negotiation and Closing TechniquesTeam Building and DelegationContent Marketing and BloggingAgency Business Model Pros and ConsKeyword Research and Google TrendsEmail List Building and Newsletter StrategyCRM and Task Management ToolsBusiness Investment CriteriaSolopreneur to Team ScalingCash Flow vs Growth InvestingRecovery and Sobriety JourneyDaily Routines and ProductivityEntrepreneurial Stress and Worry Management
Companies
Stozzi Internet Marketing
Tim's primary SEO lead generation agency generating $2.5M annually, serving as cash engine for portfolio
Recovery Local
Parent holding company owning multiple recovery-focused websites and lead generation properties
SoberNation.com
Tim's original blog-turned-community that sparked his entry into lead generation and business
CopyBlogger
Content marketing education platform Tim acquired; teaches internet writing, SEO, and newsletter strategy
YourFirstStep.com
Recovery-focused lead generation website owned under Recovery Local portfolio
DetoxLocal.com
Detox services lead generation platform owned under Recovery Local portfolio
MedicallyAssisted.com
Medical assistance services lead generation website owned under Recovery Local portfolio
Moving Local
Lead generation site for moving services; one of Tim's early acquisition experiments
StemCell Authority
Lead generation platform for stem cell industry; demonstrates Tim's diversification strategy
Kappa
AI content creation tool focused on SEO; Tim is founding investor in this emerging technology
Sparkloop
Email list building platform; Tim is founding investor, integrates with BeHive and ConvertKit
Your Boulder
Newsletter for Boulder, Colorado residents; Tim acquired as local content asset
Digital Commerce
SEO agency Tim owns targeting creators selling digital products, courses, and subscriptions
Hey Creator
Creator studio platform for building creator-driven businesses; Tim's recent investment
BeHive
Email marketing platform that integrates with Sparkloop for list building
ConvertKit
Creator-focused email marketing platform integrated with Sparkloop
HubSpot
CRM platform Tim uses for lead tracking and network management across businesses
ClickUp
Task management software used by Stozzi agency for robust project and team management
Slack
Communication tool Tim uses for team coordination across distributed company locations
Loom
Video recording tool Tim uses for asynchronous communication and task assignment
People
Tim Stoddart
Founder of Stozzi Internet Marketing and Recovery Local; built $5M+ portfolio from recovery blog
Pat Walls
Host of Starter Story podcast; interviewer who built million-dollar business through writing
Seth Godin
Marketing expert whose Success Magazine interview inspired Tim to start blogging and discover SEO
Quotes
"The big goal is to build a portfolio of assets that essentially do all the hard work for me."
Tim Stoddart
"You don't have to build this giant media entity. You can tackle it one keyword, one article at a time. The trick is to be methodical about it."
Tim Stoddart
"I am in the way of everything. I am literally the biggest problem in the company. And the best thing I can do for the company is document processes, be organized about it, teach, and then get the hell out of the way."
Tim Stoddart
"Are you ready to get started? And then I mute my phone and I put it in front of me and I just sit there and that's where you close the deal."
Tim Stoddart
"I'm just going to get through the day. I'm just going to make it till midnight. So I really, really, truly live my life like one day at a time."
Tim Stoddart
Full Transcript
At Betway Casino, stake 20 pounds and get 150 free spins for new customers. 18 plus T's and C's apply. Bet the Responsible way. Gamble aware.org. This guy makes over $5 million a year running three different businesses. And the crazy part is, he started from nothing. I fled to Denver, Colorado to ask him exactly how he got started, how he runs all these businesses at the same time, and the marketing strategy he used to go from zero to two and a half million with his first business. We generated and still generate a lot of our leads. Tim started out as a solopreneur. He was all in on one business. But this business had a problem. The more it grew, the more hours he had to work every day. Then, one day, he stumbles onto an opportunity that would change everything. He decided to become a multi-preneur. The big goal is to build a portfolio of assets that essentially do all the hard work for me. In this video, Tim will share how he built a team to run his $5 million portfolio of businesses, how to find and close big clients, and the best business model to start as a beginner. I still think it's the best business for somebody to start. I'm Pat Walls, and this is Starter Store. All right, Tim. What's up, buddy? Thank you for having me. Sure, thanks for being here. And your amazing house in Denver, Colorado. Tell me about who you are and everything you built. Great. Well, my name is Tim Stoddart. I own an SEO lead generation agency called Stozzi Internet Marketing. This year, for Stozzi, we'll do probably like two and a half million. But on the side, and more and more throughout the day, I find myself running a personal holdings company. My guess is it'll be like 5.2 to 5 and a half million for 2024. Amazing. Can you break down each of the different businesses that you run within your holding company? Sure. Stozzi Internet Marketing is the main driver of everything else. That generates the cash and the revenue to make all the other stuff go. Subsequently, to Stozzi is Recovery Local. That's sort of the parent company that owns SoberNation.com, YourFirstStep.com, DetoxLocal.com, and MedicallyAssisted.com. Then there's CopyBlogger.com. CopyBlogger teaches people how to write for the internet, how to build newsletters, how to do SEO on websites, how to write on LinkedIn. So I've built up equity in like five or six other companies over the last couple years, but those three are the main ones. So you have all these different companies. What's the big goal? What's the strategy of running different multiple companies? Well, the big goal is to build a portfolio of assets that essentially do all the hard work for me. I had a real like click moment, like, oh, wow, I don't have to just work for a paycheck every week. I can use the money I make through Stozzi, through my agency, reinvest it into cash flowing assets and eventually build up a portfolio where the businesses, the company themselves, just do the hard work for me. I just made up my mind to do it. I've been doing it ever since. Yeah. So what's the timeline of how you got started and how you got into the business of entrepreneurship? I grew up a blue collar kid. I built houses for most of my childhood. My dad worked at the airport and my mom was a nurse. And so I just thought I'd be working my whole life. Got in trouble a lot when I was younger and I had a bit of a drug problem. So the time came when I needed to change my life and I went to rehab and I got sober. About six months into that journey, a friend basically a mentor bought me a subscription to Success Magazine, which had this CD in it and it was this interview and it was this guy named Seth Godin. He said, start a blog. Don't tell anybody about it and write in it every day. And there was something about that message where I thought like, you know what, I can do that. I don't know why it felt like it was a good direction for me, but I just, I knew I could do that. So I started a blog spot and I would just write random articles about like my day and what I was feeling and experiences I had. And there was other people that might have been getting sober or might have been going through a journey of themselves and they were saying like, oh, I really relate to this or like I felt the same way. But I was wondering how are these people finding my blog? Like I didn't tell anybody about it. So I started researching and I discovered SEO. I discovered search and then I would read copy blogger every day and just improve my skills of being an online writer. And yeah, eventually that blog spot account turned into sober nation and that's how I got my start. Yeah. I love that you found the skill of writing because actually writing was one of my skills that helped me build starter story. And what's amazing about starter story is there are thousands of case studies on founders who had some sort of skill like writing or coding or design that were able to take that one skill and turn it into a business that changed their lives. If you're looking to take your skills and passions and turn it into an online business, you should check out our workshop that we're running where I share the story about how I turned my skills, which was actually writing into a million dollar business, how I found that business idea, how I executed on that and built that business on two hours a day while I had a full time job. If you're curious about learning more about that, you can find the first link in the description and save a seat for yourself. See you there. All right. So you got this blog, people are reading your blog, they're commenting. How do you turn this into a business? All of a sudden with sober nation treatment centers and behavioral health care centers were reaching out to me saying like, how did you build this community? How did you build this audience? And so we took the traffic that was coming from sober nation and almost turned it into like a lead generation media outlet. I remember I got my first client. It was 2000 bucks a month. And we just kept doing it and doing it and doing it and it's scaling ever since. Give me a little bit more of a breakdown about how you built it. So you had your first client then, then what did you do from there? We generated and still generate a lot of our leads through SEO. It was one keyword in particular that I ranked for. It was just drug rehab marketing. And then we started writing for drug rehab SEO, drug rehab lead generation. So if there's like one message that somebody can get from me, it's that you don't have to build this giant media entity. Like you can tackle it one keyword, one article at a time. The trick is to be methodical about it. That's why I hate the advice. Like just make great stuff. Just be yourself. It's just being yourself is like terrible SEO advice. What you want to do is you want to know what people are searching for. You can figure that out. Just by going to trends.google.com type in a bunch of keywords, see what keywords are available and then write an article that best solves the particular problem that that person has. I always think of Google as a problem solving machine. You never go to Google for anything else other than a solver problem. And so if you can write an article that best solves that person's problem, you can generate leads and then all of a sudden you can build a business. Yeah. Can you tell me the pros and cons of building and running this agency? Agencies are great because there's no real upstart capital. You don't have to build anything. You just need to get a client and then all of a sudden you're profitable business. They're hard because they're difficult to scale. So like every new client you bring in, you have to do more work. You have to onboard them. You know, every like two or three or four clients or however many, you got to hire another employee, right? But nonetheless, I still think it's the best business for somebody to start because you just need a client. Once you get your first client, all of a sudden you have a profitable business. So yeah. Let's talk about sales and closing deals. Do you have any tips on negotiation and how to close a deal? There's only a couple of things you need to know about closing deals. One is learn how to ask questions so that the person tells you their pain points. You want the person to tell you their problems. When that's happening, I just write down what the person says and write down the problem and I respond with a solution to that problem. The second most important thing is to get like the price out of the way in the very beginning is what always happens. You go through this whole pitch and then people say, okay, I'll call you back. Let me think about it. And that's the worst thing that can happen. So that was starting a conversation by saying, like, hey, look, just do me a favor and let me know if you're serious about this. That way you get like a commitment and you actually get the deal closed. And then the last and absolutely most important thing is ask for the deal. Here's my line for this is the best line. It's are you ready to get started? So you got to say, you say, are you ready to get started? And the trick is you shut up. And so what I do is I say, are you ready to get started? And then I mute my phone and I put it in front of me and I just sit there and that's where you close the deal. So you build this agency. It's profitable. It's generating cash. And then you start buying businesses. Can you tell me more about what that looked like? The first one was a company called Moving Local. Again, like a lead generation site, people buy moving leads a lot. I built another one called StemSell Authority, which was lead generation for the stem cell industry. I've recently invested in a company called Kappa, which is an AI content creation tool. It's mainly for SEO. It's an SEO tool. I was one of the founding investors in a company called Sparkloop. It's a way for people to build their email lists. It works with BeHive and it works with ConvertKit. There's a website called Your Boulder, which I bought, which is a newsletter that goes out to the people of Boulder, Colorado. There's another SEO agency called Digital Commerce. We saw a big opportunity to do SEO for people that want to build email lists and sell digital products or sell courses or sell e-books or subscriptions, whatever the case may be. So we have another agency. And then most recently, I just invested in a company called Hey Creator. So Hey Creator is kind of like a creator studio, you could call it, of people that are all trying to build these creator-driven businesses. And then of course, I bought CopyBlogger. That's going really well, but I'm still running Recovery Local and I'm still running my agency. That's really where I spend most of my time. So you're running and have equity in multiple companies at the same time. What are some of the pros and cons of running multiple companies? Well, the cons is more mental. I think about how much more simple my life would be if I just had one thing to focus on and I didn't have to keep track of so much stuff in my mind. The pros are that I love hearing new ideas. I love researching new opportunities. And so that keeps me really engaged. And I really think that investing in private businesses, especially investing in cash flowing businesses, that's just a great way to make sure your money keeps growing on itself and growing on itself. All right, let's talk about tools and software that you run multiple businesses on. What are your favorite ones? Well, Slack is a must. It's just a great communication tool, especially now that we're all over the country. Underutilized is Loom. Like Loom is the best. You can just get your idea out one time and people don't have to stop what they're doing to know what it is that you need to tell them. To-do-ist is great for me. It's the simplest task management tool, but I write down all the tasks that I need to assign. I record new videos and then I assign them on to-do-ist. And then that's it. The rest of the day takes care of itself. Although it's the most expensive HubSpot, in my opinion, is definitely the best CRM. It makes it easy to keep track of your leads, to keep track of your network. And then ClickUp. I think if you're running a real established agency, to-do-ist isn't going to be enough. It's just not robust enough. And so to-do-ist is really where I manage my personal holiness company. But ClickUp is where StodZ runs. That's like our real task management software. Slack, to-do-ist, Loom, HubSpot, and ClickUp. And then of course Google Drive. Sometimes we laugh that basically every tool that anybody makes is just a modified version of Google Sheets and Google Docs. And so Google Drive is the must. So your goal is to build these self-sustaining businesses. And now you have a team. How was it going from just a solopreneur to building a team? I had access to a lot of young people that were just getting into recovery. I hired them straight out of halfway houses. And we've all built this together over the last 10 years. So in terms of managing a team, Read the E-Myth revisited. That book changed my life. I just realized that I am in the way of everything. I am literally the biggest problem in the company. And the best thing I can do for the company is document processes, be organized about it, teach, and then get the hell out of the way. Because I don't do anything except mess things up when I get in the middle of it. So read the E-Myth and read it again and then read it a third time and take notes on it and just do everything that book says and you'll be fine. So you've invested in tons of businesses and you built tons of businesses. How do you approach finding great business ideas and knowing when to invest and when to not invest in a company? There's only three things that I really care about. One, do I like the founder? Because if I don't like the person, it doesn't matter how great the idea is. Like life is too short to deal with people that you don't like. Two, is it cash flowing? I personally am not interested in betting on a thousand companies and hoping that like one of them turns into Facebook. I want to build a portfolio of assets. And then the third one, this is just for me personally, is it like evergreen? I want to find something that's going to be around forever, right? That's why healthcare is appealing to me because people are always going to need to take care of themselves. So that's it. Like is the founder cool? Does it cash well? And is it evergreen? And if it meets those criteria, I'll take it seriously. All right, let's talk about what a day in the life looks like for you. What are you doing these days? All my days look exactly the same. I've always woken up very early, so I'm usually up at like four. Chug some water, I get a cup of coffee, I sit on my computer, I record my assignments for the day. By that time, my kids usually wake up, I play with them, I take them to school around eight. And then I wait for when I go to the gym. I'm in the gym every day from eight, 30 to 10. Come back, I eat and then I work. The afternoon is usually deal making. So the mornings for me is like logistics and task assignment. And the afternoon is deal making. So I follow up with my leads, make phone calls, I write proposals, I write contracts. If I close a deal, I do all the onboarding. And then my kids get home at like five. We hang out down here and we play and we eat dinner and I watch fucking true detective. Like I do the same thing every day. My life is super boring. Throughout your journey, building businesses, you've been doing this for a while now. What have been some of the struggles or have there anything that's been hard in your journey? The hardest part about being an entrepreneur is that I worry all the time. Most of my time is just spent like, what's about to go wrong? What's a fire that's about to happen? Like, where can I see something coming so that I'm not blindsided and my life doesn't fall to pieces because of some problem that I couldn't control? So like, yeah, I worry a lot. Every morning as soon as I wake up, I'm thinking like, what's wrong? What's wrong? What's wrong? It's just it's really difficult to make that go away. Yeah, if you could sit on the shoulder of yourself when you're just getting started, just getting started with that blog, what would be your advice to young Tim? When I was getting sober, basically the fear is always how am I ever going to have fun for the rest of my life? Or like, what am I going to do when I'm at a wedding and then somebody told me all you ever have to do is get through the day. So you make it till midnight and then what do you do when midnight comes? You just make it to midnight again. And like it never, ever ends. The solution to every problem in my life is always like, I'm just going to get through the day. I'm just going to make it till midnight. So I really, really, truly live my life like one day at a time. I don't think too far into the future. I have no idea what's coming next. I just I make it till midnight one day at a time. That's great advice. Thanks. Thank you. Thanks, man. At EDF, we don't just encourage you to use less electricity. We actually reward you for it. That's why when you use less during peak times on weekdays, we give you free electricity on Sundays. How you use it is up to you. EDF. Change is in our power. Households are shipped weekly, peak usage by 40% for an up to 16 hours of free electricity for each subject to fair usage care. For all season series visit edfenergy.com forward slash power-hive and power. Thank you for having us. Of course. Follow this advice and you will have five companies making five million dollars a year. Hey guys, I hope you enjoyed the breakdown of all of Tim's businesses. This is an amazing story, right? If you want to do something similar, but you're struggling to find the right idea or the time to build it, well, I have something that might help you. I'm hosting a free workshop this week to show you exactly how I validated my own million dollar business and then exactly how I built that business on just two hours a day while I had a full-time job. Because I know from personal experience, there's nothing worse than wanting to start a business but not feeling 100% confident that you're on the right track. So if you're interested, click the first link in the description to save your seat and I'll see you in there. Otherwise, see you in the next video. Peace.