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That was a clip from this week's episode of summer house episode 11 of the season. There's a lot going on on screen. There's a lot going on off screen. I don't know if you saw this but Amanda this week posted on her Instagram stories. It was the first time since the joint statement that her and West had put up and she had posted like a new Instagram story that was basically like I'm going to get back to my regularly scheduled programming on social media for my mental health. You know, it was like and I'm paraphrasing you go look at the sort of statement she released on her Instagram stories was not an in feed post. And then first of all, I read that and I thought like what do you mean for your mental health? You need to be on social media like if anything, except fucking nuts. If anything, you should get off social media when you're going through a mental health crisis. Now I'm no expert, although I have had my fair share of mental health issues in the past. So I do feel like I could speak on this. And to anyone out there, I would say like if you are, if you are going through it and having some struggles with the pressure and anxiety, any sort of mental health struggle, you should definitely get off social media. You should not go on social media and say, I'm going to start posting again because I'm mentally going through it like that's the last thing that you should do. But anyway, I come to find out. I think the reason that she was doing that is because then she went bar hopping with West in New York City. And so I think she probably recognized like, Hey, we're going to go out on the town and people are going to be sending in pictures and stuff to do more or wherever. And everybody's going to be seeing them on social media. And so I'm going to get ahead of this. Now that wasn't the only reason because I also noticed that she posted a collab with a company called Jimmy John's. That's right. Now you know, I love a sandwich. And so I think this was also probably pre-planned and she thought, Oh, I got to get my coins from Jimmy John's. Cause we're going to post this. It was like a video of her and Cal Penn and was it Cheecher Chong from Cheech and Chong's? And so it was like a four 20 marijuana weed. Like the, the concept of it was like watching that 70s show, but it was like an ad for Instagram and it was like the three of them and maybe somebody else. And they were alluding to the fact that they were high, but it was an ad for Jimmy John's. And look, it was absurd to me that they went ahead with this collab because I would think that they wouldn't want the heat because every comment under the Jimmy John's post was like, what the heck are you doing? It was like, girl, what are you doing? Girl, I even posted girl. How is this? This is not a good idea for your business, for your brand. And obviously there was something that was probably in the works ahead of time. Uh, but I don't really feel bad calling out Jimmy John's at this juncture in time because of all the people for summer house that you're going to get for an ad and you didn't get Lindsay Hubbard. How many sandwiches have you made for, for Lindsay Hubbard? You should be making sandwiches for her, get her in the Jimmy John's ad and pivot the creative so that you're highlighted and Lindsay Hubbard and her sandwiches because she's the sandwich queen of the summer house. I've never seen Amanda eat a sandwich on summer house. She's never referenced a sandwich in a fight with Kyle. So, uh, what kind of branding is this? And so they posted this. I was so shocked. And so then for Amanda's Instagram post, it was like, oh, I got to continue posting for my Instagram claps, but I just thought it was all in weird taste. Because, oh, you have to post that you're going to be getting your mental health in order and you got to continue posting. But then it was like an ad for 420 Jimmy John's. And look, I love a Jimmy John's sandwich. I do. I'm not trying to hate on the Jimmy John's sandwiches because I love me at Turkey Tom. I have since college. There used to be a Jimmy John's over in, um, Northeast Ohio, there's all sorts of Jimmy John's and I love to Turkey Tom. I'd go there, hungover, not hungover. You go get a Turkey Tom, but they should be hiring literally anybody else, anybody else besides Amanda for the Jimmy John's sandwich posts. And I'm not trying to take away her, her businesses or anything like that. I'm just saying like as a consumer, it seemed like in poor timing and poor taste. Um, but anyway, they did it. They did it. And so that's, that's the Jimmy John's update. Also in social media, I got to point this out is that Sabrina, Sabrina, Ben's gal, Sabrina, we're going to talk about on the show this week, but she had posted something on her story about the way she, I think came across. And you got to look at the post because I'm going to paraphrase it and get it wrong, but she essentially was saying, again, I hope I'm not getting this wrong, but it was something like along the lines of I don't watch much TV. Like I think she realized she came across maybe a little. A lot for her first appearance, but she said, I don't watch TV except for, and she posted this on her Instagram stories except for entourage. Now this was a big red flag for me. And I say this is someone who watched every episode of entourage. I even went to the movies with friend of the podcast, Ira Madison, the third. Him and I saw the entourage movie in theaters here in Los Angeles. So I do think I can also speak to this because I watched every episode of entourage, but if somebody came to tell me that the only show they watch on television is entourage, I'd say, I'd say red flag, red flag, news alert, news alert. I'd say, you know, that's a big ass red flag. If I've ever heard one, because especially a young gal watching entourage is the only show they watch. Like unfortunately the depiction of women and gay men in a show like entourage was not great. Obviously there's been a million articles written about it. Now that doesn't mean to say that it wasn't a product of its time and there wasn't good in the show. I watched every single episode and I enjoyed it. But if that was the only piece of media I was consuming, then I might be a different person here today. That was just part of my media diet back when entourage was airing. It was like I'd watch entourage, but then I'd also put on desperate housewives or what else was going on. I'd be watching brothers and sisters on Sunday night. My Sunday night was packed. I was watching a Sally Field vehicle. And then I was catching up with Ari, Vince and Chase and the turtle and the gang drama. I remember actually, this is a little detour, but I remember watching entourage. It was like my brother's when I was in college, my older brother would have a bunch of people over for entourage night. I guess it was Sunday night. And so we'd all go over there and we'd all be sitting and watching entourage. I remember one time I was probably like a junior and senior in college. My brothers were in there very early twenties. And so it was like their friends and we'd all go to the house and watch it. And I was like almost ready to come out of the closet. Like I knew it was gay at that point, but it wasn't fully out or no one knew that I was gay. I was just sort of sneaking around. And I remember thinking at the time I was like kind of tipping my toe out of the water to come out of the closet. And then we go to entourage night and I'm watching with all these straight guys, straight guys and some gals, girlfriends and stuff like that were there. And I remember it was an episode where Johnny drama went to Vegas and he was getting a massage and the massage, uh, Maseur thought that Johnny drama was hitting on him. And so then sort of like made a move or on the, on Johnny drama and then Johnny drama like freaked out. You like had this homophobic panic, you know, and everybody we were watching it thought it was like the funniest thing. And also like they, it was like this a glorious laughter that Johnny drama was like so disgusted that a gay man was hitting on him. And then Johnny drama like leaves the massage and like goes and I don't, he like punches a guy cause he's got to get out of all of this aggression, you know, and I remember watching with all these people and I thought like, Oh fuck, like I'm never able to come out of the closet. Now the way that everybody was watching this episode of, and of course you're hyper aware of it at that time of like how everyone's reacting to anything gay. And so I'm watching all these straight guys and people that I love and still love, and they didn't know any better. They were in their young twenties and when I did ultimately come out of the closet, my brothers were more supportive than anyone. They were great. Uh, but at the time I just remember looking around that room and being like, oh fuck, like, I guess I'm never, never coming out of the closet. If this is the way everybody's watching this episode where a man, it flirts with another man and he freaks the fuck out. Oh, anyway, so it worried me about Sabrina, but I do also have to say that I have to support Sabrina. Because I also learned this week that Sabrina's from my hometown. That's right. She's from, I think, or as people told me in the Instagram DM, so I don't know that the sacred, I didn't look this up, but people told me she's from Orange, Ohio, which is like right where I grew up. I grew up in Solon, Ohio, and it's in Northeast Ohio. So I'm like, I guess I got to support Sabrina and she was better this week, but I'm concerned at the fact that her media diet is just entourage reruns because that's an, that's an issue. So Sabrina, I'm just going to need you to put on that TV, put on some other things, you know, just expand your horizons, watch an old episode of Designing Women or, or another reality show, pick another, like a wholesome reality show, maybe Love on the Spectrum's got a new season out or, you know, watch our Housewife Gales, whatever you're going to do, but we need you to tune into something else besides the entourage reruns because that's not a steady media diet. We need you to have some, a well rounded thing. Well, and, and, and maybe entourage will be rebooted one of these days. I kind of would like it to be rebooted if I'm being honest with you. And I don't want that repeated back to me at any time in the future. So if you see me, if you see me out and about in public, do not remind me that I said on this microphone that I would like an entourage reboot, but I would like to say that here. I wouldn't mind seeing what they're up to now and seeing how they're dealing with the moment. I don't know. I think it'd be interesting. So I'm not saying that you cannot watch entourage. I'm just saying maybe have some other things, have some other things to watch. Yeah, I've been watching a lot of TV too. I got to say, I am currently on the brim. I'm already on the brim of freaking out. I'm going to get back to somewhere else, but I am on the brim because my son, baby's got his first cold this week. We haven't done it. I was shockingly, we made it to 10 plus months with no cold. And then a couple of days ago, he woke up with just like snot ever. I didn't even know that much to not get out of baby. And it's cute because he's like wanting to be more cuddly and stuff. Normally he's a record Ralph just crawling all over the fucking house, knocking everything over. But he's a little more cuddly now. And so he still is like wanting to play, you know, but he wants you close by. So I was kind of snuggling up near him and he was playing with his toys. And he had one of the little people figures and he just like bang me in the nose. And I'm already running on very little sleep because we, we've been monitoring his fever and he's been coughing at night and all that stuff. So I'm already on the brim and then he knocks me in the bridge of my nose. And I just yelled, I try not to swear in front of the baby. You know, I get all my, I get all my F words out here on the podcast, but I was like, Oh fuck, fuck. You know, I shouted. And he's also at the point where he's like, he's babbling a lot. So he's really only saying like, ma, ma, ma, ma, which I have to remind him. Like, you don't have one of those, unfortunately, baby, but we're trying to get him to babble other words. So he's like, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma. But then, um, he's sort of imitating. So if you say like ball, he'll kind of move his mouth and be like, bah, bah, bah, but he's not saying the word yet. And I just shouted like, ah, fuck. And I saw his little mouth go like, bah, bah, bah, bah. And then I'm thinking, oh, please don't let his first official word be fuck. I'd rather go back to mama, you know, rather him say mama than anything else because, uh, we can't have, we can't have him saying that for it. But you know, I'm trying, we're doing our best. And so it's hard with a, a sad. Sick baby. You know, you don't want him to be sick. It breaks your heart, breaks your heart. But so anyway, I'm holding it together together as best I can. But if I sound tired or, or if I'm getting things wrong, I also want to try to keep things positive. I'm so tired that it's like, I don't want to come on the microphone and just, uh, talk shit about Amanda and Wes. But honestly, they were really pissing me off this week because there was even one point in the episode, you guys, where West was sitting on Amanda and she's like, are you farting on me? And Kyle's like right there. And I'm like, why is West just sitting? I mean, I was like laying in a pool chair and I granted everybody was around. There was like a big group of them around, but like, why was West just like sitting on her stomach? And we recall member Sierra said, if West sits on you, then it like means he likes you. And I was like, there's the smoking gun was West sitting on Amanda and farting on her, which is like the least the idea of like a West farting on me. Like there couldn't be anything less sexual to me than that. Nothing, nothing is less sexual than West Wilson farting on you. While he's sitting on you. I, I'd be like, get the fuck off me. But Amanda, I guess likes it and she's out bar happened. So obviously that means they're together in real time. I don't think this was like a fling. They're going to come out swinging at the reunion like, oh, we're together now. And I'm going to be like, get the fuck out. I don't know if I could see it. Cause even this episode was kind of disgusting to me. I don't know. We'll get to it. Anyway, we open with them on mini golf. Ben and Amanda are talking. That's the clip I played at the beginning of the episode. Amanda says she should have thought about her words better with Sabrina. And yeah, she's like, Amanda says, Ben has been all single all summer. And then in that confession, she's like, how dare you, sir? And he says, she says Ben wanted to fuck her in Italy, which I just have to say, justice for Bailey, because Bailey was the one who said at that dinner table that Ben wanted to fuck Amanda. And now Amanda's telling us Ben wanted to fuck her. And so it wouldn't put a past either of them. I don't trust Ben either. As far as I could throw them. I don't trust that, that water bottle man, because I don't trust him. I just don't trust him. And so Amanda, even though I also don't trust her, her saying in the confession, like Ben wanted to fuck her, I do believe. And so Bailey was right. But when Bailey said at the dinner table, everybody looked at Bailey, like she was fucking nuts. She's like, oh yeah, Ben wants to fuck you, Amanda. And she was spot on. She was spot on. They want to fuck each other. Actually, that was the only thing she got wrong. I think they did want to fuck each other. So I'd use that kind of language. But there was a group chat even that Amanda says there was a group chat from Italy where they're all talking about how Ben wanted to fuck Amanda. I'm like, what kind of group chat is this? Is Kyle in this? I don't know. Is everybody looking at Kyle differently too? Cause I'm like, is Kyle not to say that that man's by any means a saints, but I'm like, what does it, what do you mean? There's a group chat of talking about how this person want to fuck your wife. It's crazy. It's crazy. Do you ever hear about like, I don't know. Do you ever think like sometimes is everybody swingers like, I don't know. I used to think like swingers are just a made up thing. Like they're not actual real. But now I don't know. Recently I'm starting to think like our swing is everybody's just swingers and like, I'm not aware of it. Do you ever get that feeling like everybody's doing something or you find out like everybody's been doing something different? Like I remember when people, somebody had told me like you leave butter on the counter. Like you don't have to put butter in the fridge. Like I grew up where we always had the butter in the fridge. And then somebody's always like, no, would you keep the butter out? So it's soft. If you want to bread your butter or but butter your bread. I just went to this place. There's this breakfast burrito place here in Los Angeles called bread and breakfast. It's got the, one of the best breakfast burritos. I could do a whole segment on breakfast burritos in California here, but bread and breakfast has a good one. I also like the Sobuna one. I don't know if I don't know if I'm saying that name correctly. And I like the eat in North Hollywood. It's called EAT. Eat is the name of the restaurant. And there's some, a few other ones. Maybe we'll do a, oh, cafe, Felice. Is that what it's called? They got a great breakfast burrito. Anyway, what was that? Bread and breakfast is the name of the place. And it always kind of screws me up. But, um, yeah, I found out like everybody would be keeping their butter out. And I'm like, wait, am I supposed to keep the butter out? And then I started putting it on the counter and it does make a big difference. It's nice having soft butter when you need it and you get one of those butter dishes. But I found that out. And I'm like, oh, is everybody just been doing that? And I, I didn't even know everybody's been doing that. And that's how I feel about swingers. Like, oh, is everybody swinging? And I'm just not aware. Like maybe we're a Kylan, Amanda swinging. I don't know. Who's to say? I don't want to start rumors here on this podcast, but maybe I'm going to start a rumor. Anyway, it changes the subject. I have to change the subject for a minute. Amanda, we talked about that. Then we got to the house. Everybody gets back at like 10 30 PM and some of them are getting ready to go out. And I thought, what? 10 30 PM. 10 30 PM. You're getting ready to go out on the town at 10 30 PM. I'm, I'm asleep by 10 30 PM. Granted, I do have the baby, but it's like 10 30 PM. I'm not, I used to say nothing good happens after two AM. Now it's like nothing good happens after nine PM. Like I need to be in bed with an episode of television at nine PM. Otherwise my whole next day is ruined. But Sierra and Amanda, Amanda's being sneaky cause she see it says she feels icky about the Sabrina conversation. Sabrina conversation. And so she's confiding in Sierra. And every time I see her confide in Sierra, I'm like, just get away from her girl. Get away from Sierra. Not today. Not today. I don't like it. I don't like it. Meanwhile, Kyle's over in the corner feeling hoped, hopeful and optimistic about his relationship with Amanda. I'm like, you need to go figure something else out. DJ cow cook, because this woman is not going to be with you for much longer. She's going to be fucking West. He's sitting on her ass and farting. And so we know what that means. You're fucked, Kyle. But West is being not only to touch you with Amanda when he's sitting on her, but he's also, I thought, being too touchy with Bailey. Did anyone notice this? It was like they were in the kitchen or something. He was like, I don't know. He kind of has that energy to me of like, you know, when little toddler kids, when they flirt with each other in like kindergarten or something, and it's like the boys pull the girl's hair or whatever. And everybody's like, oh, that's so cute. It means they like each other. I feel like West does that as an adult where he's like, he was, he was grabbing Bailey's arms and like pulling them behind her back. I don't know. I was just, maybe I'm like looking into it too much, but I don't like it. I don't like it. And then he was also given people his old pants. I'm like, who wants to wear West's dirty pants? Is that he's farting in all day. We know he's farting. And so then I find out they're all getting ready to go out and he's like, you want to wear my pants? And Jesse's like, I'll wear your pants. Let me give me your pants. And I'll put on those pants. And then Jesse puts them on and there's like a condiment. I'm just, what's this? And somebody sees in, these are West's old pants. You know, Jesse's like a six feet taller than West. So why is he wearing those? They look crazy. Get off. Was it him wearing or somebody else wearing the pants? I don't know. But I'm like, nobody should be wearing West's old pants. And West even had pointed out, got to give him credit where credit's due because he said something like, oh, they're not clean. And then they're still wearing them. Like, I don't care how drunk I am. I'm not put on West's old pants. And you know, he's hotboxing in those things, those dumb ass pants, just with his old, his condoms in it. For it gross. Get out of here. Ben meanwhile is ready to be all in with Sabrina. He's calling her on the phone and he like says, oh, I'm staying in tonight. He wants a medal for it. Like he deserves a medal for staying in at night. Meanwhile, I feel like he's been playing this gal. He just showed up to the summer house. Obviously what I think happened was like Ben got, Ben was dating Sabrina, liked her. But then he got the show. Bravo's like, Hey, you're on the show. So he thought, oh, I'm going to be on TV now. I'm going to go on the house and we meet and all these new women. And I got to keep my options open. So then he's like, oh, Sabrina, I'm not ready for a relationship. And then he gets to the house and realized like, oh, they're all either coupled off or he's not interested in anyone and it's not working out the way he thought it would. And so he's like, oh, Sabrina, I really want to date you. I want to go all in. And then he stays in one night and wants a medal for it. I was like, get the fuck out of here, Ben. I don't like that Ben fella. Anyway, they all stay out till like what one 20 and we see Carl come home and then everybody else comes home. And West in Sierra, they make nachos in the kitchen and the cheap nachos. I do like a cheap late night nacho. Who doesn't love a cheap? I'm talking the one where I like just like a tortilla chip and then whatever cheese you got in the fridge and you just melted on the chip in the microwave. They're like disgusting nachos, but they're also the best nachos. And West in Sierra, I feel like every single episode, they're like, oh, we're making nachos in the kitchen. But Jesse is seeing the two of them flirting and Jesse's like, West isn't West isn't ready. And I got to be honest with you. Should I even say this? Let me work on it. I'm going to say this and then I'm going to go to break so that you can all think about it. And this is another situation that I don't want to repeat it back to me. But I think that are you ready for it? Are you ready for me to say this? This is, oh gosh, should I say it? This is sad that I'm saying this. This is where we've gotten to on summer house. This is the fact that I'm going to say that I think Jesse had a good episode. I know, I know, I know Jesse had a good episode this week. He was saying things that were intelligent, um, emotionally regulated. His one misstep was of course, putting on West's old dirty, farty pants. But other than that, I think Jesse was like speaking in his confessionals and in real time, he was making sense to me. And he seemed like he had shown growth. And I know I'll regret that. And I'm embarrassed to even be saying this and I'm sad about it. I'm sad that I have come around to Jesse Solomon. That doesn't mean I want him singing. That doesn't mean I want to go see him on tour, but I do think that Jesse was speaking facts. And so I'm going to go to break. I want to thank ACAST and I'm sad to be saying this. You know, maybe, maybe I shouldn't come back from break. Maybe this should be that. Maybe this should be my last appearance on everything iconic because I know I'm going to come to regret this in the coming days, weeks, months, years. Saying that Jesse had a good episode. I, I'm not proud of it, but it's my true. 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He stayed in one night, although again, I'm not ready to give all these metals for staying in one night and the weekend. I'm just not. Mia was there and I'm, you guys, I'm kind of, I'm obsessed with Mia right now. I do think Mia is the future. I believe the children are the future and I believe Mia and KJ and Bailey are the future of somewhere else. And I'm okay with that. Although I know everybody hates Bailey. I'm not, I'm the one person. I'm the one person rooting for Bailey. You know, I love an underdog and so I'm rooting for Bailey and Levy Levi. We don't know her name. Um, okay. So then, um, Mia had a dream though that both her parents were alive cause she lost both of her parents. And I, do you think something happens in your dreams? Like, I don't know where I stand on that. Like, do you think people can visit you in your dreams? Is that a crazy thing? Or I guess it's just your subconscious. Like, I don't know the exact science behind it. But I do know that I have reoccurring dreams and it's like the same or same nightmares too. I always have the nightmare that I can't get my locker open in high school and it's like I'm late for class, which I look back at that dream. I'm like, who the fuck cares if I'm late for class? Like, if I can't get my locker open, it's not like they would have expelled me for not making it to class on time because my locker wouldn't open. But for some reason I wake up in like a night sweats, not being able to get my fucking locker open. Anyway, that's not the point. Mia's crying about her parents and she's looking for guidance. And so she ultimately says she needs a medium, which I'm like, maybe that's, maybe a therapist before medium. You know, it got blessed me up, but it's like maybe therapy before the medium, but who knows? Maybe she's got the therapy. She does. Did she say she's got the therapist? I think, right? Anyway, we love a medium around here too. You know, I'm not above a medium. If you want to communicate with the dead here with me, Sylvia, you know, call them up, put them on the line and I'll chat with whoever. I once had Teresa Caputo on this podcast and I sobbed through the whole interview because she called upon my grandmother. And so I'm not above it. I'm not above it. You know, you talk to whoever you go to talk to. Sometimes you just need someone to jail with. And so if I need a YAP, then maybe I'm going to call up a medium and say, Hey, get me somebody on the line on a curudus from the beyond. But let me know, you know, call them, call them up and let's have a chat. Let's see what's going on on the other side. I don't know. Um, but then we have Jesse and West and talking about Ben and Sabrina and they think it's a weird and Jesse is describing Sabrina and he's like, she loves rock and roll and she gives hippie chill vibes. And West is sitting across like, no way, dude. I was like, what did Jesse even do? He didn't say much. He just said she likes rock and roll. And West's like, that's a red flag or that's, oh, I can't wait to meet her now. I was like, what the fuck are you saying? West, like, cause she likes rock and roll. Doesn't everybody sort of likes rock and roll? Like, isn't that I just sort of assume rock and roll is basically like, it's like pop me. I mean, I guess. Does he mean like lead Zeppelin or something? Nothing wrong with that. I'm not judging. You should see my Spotify playlist. Just me listen to Addison Ray's diet Pepsi over and over again. Like Melissa ethridge. I've been on my Melissa ethridge kick lately. You know, I go in these moods where sometimes I'll, sometimes I get in like my evanescence zone where it's like evanescence Lincoln park and I'm doing like those early 2000s kind of angry music or, or what I thought of as goth, but really it was just evanescence. Uh, and then he's sometimes I'm in my Melissa ethridge era, which is what I'm at now where I'm just, I'm shouting come to my window and I'm the only one. You know, that's the kind of mood I'm in. I'm in my very, um, Melissa ethridge vibe. Anyway, that's not the point. The point is, I don't think it's a problem that Jesse and West or think that Sabrina's nuts for listening to rock and roll. I got to support my North East Ohio sister now Sabrina. Get behind me. Get behind me. And, and don't be watching entourage behind me. Put on something else. Um, okay. So then, uh, by the pool, they're doing a Vegas style pool party, which is Jesse's theme and I'm liking Jesse even more too, because I like that this theme is just sort of loose and we're not doing a big costume party. We're not having prosthetics or having them act like old people or doing their improvs. So I like that he's just like, yeah, we're going to do a Vegas night and that's it. And this is where, as they're getting ready, West is sitting on Amanda electric chair, fart and honor and Kyle's right there. And Sierra, this actually, see, I'm like, she's got other fish to fry, but she was mad later in the episode that West was a tongue kiss and some gal at the party. But she was the one who pointed out earlier this season that when West sits on you, it means he likes you. And so she should have known that West was sitting as dumb ass on Amanda and fart and honor that means he likes her. So in Sierra, we unfortunately need to say open your eyes because West was sitting as dumb ass right there on Amanda or what do you call it? Mandy, Mandy, Mandy, get the fuck out. Anyway, then we cut to Amanda and Bailey talking about Carl. Amanda supports it. I do too. I don't, I don't think, uh, how do I put this? Bailey and Carl aren't going to have a sexual relationship. That's my inconvenient truth, but I do want them to be together. I feel like they can have a great, polytonic marriage where it's like they never, they, cause I just don't see like, I don't find either of them having like strong sexual energy, but like that's okay with me. What do they call that? Not, is it, it's not a lavender marriage if they're both straight, right? Is it? I support it though. If they want to have a lavender marriage, so be it. Like I'm fine with that. I don't think that's what it is. If they're straight, it has somebody has to be gay if it's a lavender marriage, right? I don't think Carl's gay, but I would like them to have a lavender marriage. Okay. So then we cut to Sabrina. She arrives with Whole Foods bag and does anyone else feel like Whole Foods has really gone downhill? It has moving on. Sabrina, she's coming on strong again with Sierra, but I sort of like it. Sierra says they're opposites. And yeah, Sabrina's a chatty Cathy, but you know what? She's from Ohio. I also got to support her. Amanda pulls Sabrina aside immediately. And she's like, I apologize. It feels so bad. She's like, oh, Sabrina, I feel so bad. It, she says it's been making me sick. And I'm like, Amanda, girl, you're lying through your fucking teeth because I just saw you in your confessional. I played the clip at the beginning of the episode saying like about how Ben's lying to make a big deal. And you're like, don't do me like that. And now you're telling Sabrina to her face like, oh, I've been, it's been making me sick. I'm like, that's a bold ass lie. You bold ass liar, bold face, liar, liar. I'm sorry to get worked up about it. I don't know why I did. Anyway, you just have to promise we're going to have so much fun. Sabrina says to Amanda and look, I want to drag Sabrina for again, being kind of aggressive in the friendship now with Amanda and say, you just have to promise me we're going to have so much fun girl. And I wanted Sabrina to tell Amanda to shut the fuck up. But unfortunately that's not the Sabrina we're getting. Uh, then we cut to Carl and Bailey talking. And this is where Bailey is like, I like straight whiskey. And Carl said he sort of misses. So Carl sober now. And he says he would like to, he says, when he was drinking and doing drugs, he would get a, be an asshole. And we saw a flashback to him being an asshole with one of them twins. And this is the car that I remember from the early seasons. Obviously he's changed and grown and that's great. But we must remember that Carl was such a dick, like such an asshole, I thought in those early seasons and great. He's making some amends and he recognizes the behavior of his ways or the ways of his behavior. I don't know. But he, um, yeah, he's always growing and we applaud that. Uh, but he says, he's like, sometimes I wish I could have some alcohol or something so I can be honest because he says he has trouble with Kyle and particularly wants to say how he feels, but he has trouble without the booze or the Coke and he's overly sensitive because he was mean on substances. So he's like, yeah, he says he was spanked and belted by his grandpa and lived in fear of tougher men. And Carl says he should bow down. He feels like he should bow down to Kyle and Kyle helped save him, not only with the drugs and alcohol, but I, I also feel like maybe there's something, I don't know, that's to be true, but is there something where Kyle kind of kept Carl on the show or got Carl on the show? And so he feels like he owes him a little bit. Ultimately, I think Carl and Kyle are end game. Maybe those two should have a lavender marriage because he doesn't want, he doesn't want distance from Kyle. He just wants to be honest with Kyle. And this is a very mature way of looking at a relationship. So you can really tell that, I don't know if Carl's gotten therapy. I'm assuming he has, because you could tell that Carl has a lot of growth, I think. But I hope that him and Kyle are end game and I hope they work it out. I know they did work it out because in real time they're friends. Um, but then we cut to everybody getting ready for this Vegas party. Again, I like this looser theme. We're not staying so rigid about the theme. And then Amanda's getting ready. She said she feel bad and guilty. And this is when she's sitting down with Sierra and Mia. And Sierra says Amanda doesn't realize her magic and Kyle beats her down. And Sierra's like, half of what Kyle has is because of you. And Sierra's really hyping up her friend. And meanwhile, Amanda is sneaking, is sneaky behind her back with the West. Mm-mm, mm-mm. Electric chair. I hate to say it. I hate to say it, but, uh, it's kind of diabolical that Sierra is just hyping her ass up and then Amanda is letting West fart on her and do whatever else they're doing in the sack. Cause now that I'm watching them thinking they are, I think they work it up at this time. I do. That's my truth. That's my other inconvenient truth. By the way, I keep saying inconvenient truth, but I was just talking about Melissa Atheridge and didn't she have a song from the inconvenient truth soundtrack, which is an absurd sentence to say. Remember that movie about global warming? Remember that documentary about global warming? Wasn't there a song? Didn't she do like a song on the soundtrack for the documentary about global warming? Like that was a different era. Like the idea of Melissa, it's so absurd. What a weird sentence. It was a good song though. Um, I would think it was called like, I need to wake up and we all need to wake up. We need to wake up, wake it up. We need to remember the Lorax and just care for the trees. Oh goodness. That's true. If you got to care for the trees, the Lorax was right. That little orange yellowed mustache demon or monster. He was onto something. He was. Um, okay. So then, uh, yeah, Mia and Sierra are comforting Amanda and I'm like, oh, you got to get away from that, that, uh, Amanda demon because I feel like she is just watching it. Whoo. And West invites, um, West, Jesse thinks that West is being a dumb shit and Jesse's right. Again, Jesse's right. Now, Dara invites her bestie over and I got a man, I got mad at Dara Dara. I'm going to keep screaming up these names. I'm people are going to be mad at me, but Dara invited her bestie over and open the door like she owned the joint. And I didn't care for that either because I was thinking like, Dara, you're holding onto this cast, uh, by the skinnier teeth or whatever this saying is, by hanging on by dental floss, because, uh, you are barely in this cast. And so you're inviting best friends over to stay for the weekend and open in the door like you own the joint. I didn't care for that. It was like she, her friend came over and I don't know. Maybe it was just, maybe it was cause I'm running on very little sleep and I got a sick baby in my arms, but I was not caring for the way that Dara was opening that door for her friend. Cause I'm like, you're barely in this cast. And she's like, Hey friend, it was like she was, uh, well, welcoming architectural digest or the MTV Cribs camera crew. What happened to MTV? Why is it like MTV? How did they fuck up MTV where it's like not even existed anymore? Moving on, uh, let's see. They have a sign. So it's a Vegas party. So they have all these like, uh, bottle service people that come over and they have a sign for Ben's last ride. They're going to make this party like a, a bachelor party for Ben. Thank God. No costumes, no costumes. Bailey wants to talk to Carl. But it's being nice. We can deal with Kyle. Yeah. Excuse me. Feel like I have to burp. Do you have it? I'm not. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I should probably edit this out of the podcast. Me talking about my burp, but I didn't burp ultimately, but it felt like I swallowed a burp, which I don't know that could be. Is that good for the system? Unclear. Um, anyway, so this party, um, Kyle, uh, he has gone viral this week for his skincare. Did anyone see this? People are wondering like, what's cause skincare routine? And did you go to say after seeing Kyle up close, he does have impeccable skin and he is aging backwards. And I've always said that, uh, but he is aging backwards and I don't know how it's happening, but you know who's aging forwards is West. I mean, that man, he's leaping into the future with his aging because I'm looking at him and maybe it's just because of what's happening offscreen. But every time I look at West and like, he's definitely aging forward because he is skipping time and he's taken a DeLorean to the future because that man is aging quick, quick. And that's what happens when your insides are rotten. I think, you know, your skin either ages well or your aging forwards like West. And so that's how I feel. I hate to talk about someone's looks, but I'm seeing him and I'm going, uh, get out of that DeLorean and go back to the, back to the past, not the future West because your agent forward, it's like, what is going on? What is going on? He's like 24 and he looks 65 to me now. That's it. Nothing wrong with the 65 year old, but I don't think that West, how old is West? He's probably 30 or something. He acts like he's a toddler. Okay. So Sabrina, uh, let's see. We talked about her watching on trash in my notes. It just said Sabrina posted what about watching entourage red flag, but we already discussed that at the top of the show. Um, okay. 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You couldn't bring the guy out of the room and tongue kiss her there. And he couldn't even see Sierra to sit next to him. And Sierra says, if you can't see me sitting next to you, how could you ever see me for the human that I am? And that's true. And I feel the same way about now. That's what that was the thing that I held on to most when Amanda was having those heart to heart with Sierra. It was like, I was just thinking of that line that Sierra said, if you can't see me sitting next to you, how could you ever see me as like a real human or friend or partner or romantic interest, whatever. And I was thinking that with Amanda too, because I'm like, oh, Amanda's looking for sympathy from Sierra and Sierra's hyping you up and saying, what a great person you are and how Kyle wouldn't be where he is without Amanda. And like you're just hyping her ass up. And then I'm thinking like, oh, Amanda's not even seeing Sierra because if she did see Sierra as her friend, she would see that she shouldn't be having sex with West. Do you know what I'm saying? Like that made me sad. It made me more sad than anything. But whatever, I guess that Jimmy John's spokesperson is going to do what she does. I can't get over that. The sandwiches, why is she plugging the sandwiches? Jimmy John's, call me up. Call me up. I'll plug your sandwiches. I'll get on a microphone and a screen and I'll tell everyone about how good the turkey Tom is. I'll be telling everybody about Thomas, the turkey. It's one of the only times I care for is the turkey Tom, because the other times that I know Tom, Sandeval, Tom, who is the other Tom? Tom from the Regency, remember Tom from the Rony Housewives? It's like the Tom's on the Bravo Network aren't so great. And so you can hire me. I'll get some good creative. Or if anything, maybe they should do that. They should get all the Toms together. But also if they do that, they better pay me because this is my idea. But they should get all the Toms together, all the demon Toms. Tom, even they could throw in Tom Calico, get all the Bravo Toms. Tom from Top Chef, Tom Sandeval, Tom Schwartz. Just I hope they put some shoes and socks on Schwartz. But get all the Toms together and have them promote the turkey Tom. That's the kind of branding you need to be doing. Not Amanda Petula, smoking a joint with Cal Penn. Like, what is that? What is that? In this in this day and age, in this economy. No, thank you. OK, what's going on next? Jesse's not flirting because he's he's like, all of a sudden dating someone named Maggie. Like, who the fuck is Maggie? Does anyone feel that way about when Jesse was like, oh, I'm not flirting with anyone. Because now I I want to be with someone and I realized if I want to be with them, I shouldn't be flirting with other women because it's going to prevent me from settling down with Maggie. And I'm thinking like, OK, great, you're acting mature and in making smart decisions, Jesse. But I also don't know who the fuck Maggie is. Did anyone do they expect I take notes on the show every week? Every fucking week I got a laptop on as out as I'm watching it. And I'm tip typing away on my computer taking notes. And he's talking about Maggie. I'm like, I going through my notes and like going through my word documents from prior weeks thinking like, who the fuck's Maggie? Did they ever tell us who Maggie is? All of a sudden he's got a girlfriend named Maggie. Who the fuck's Maggie? Who's Maggie? Where'd she come from? Who is she? All of a sudden he's like, I'm no, I'm settled with Maggie. And meanwhile, him and West earlier in the episode, we're talking about how Sabrina came out of nowhere, the relationship with Ben. And it's like, at least we know who Sabrina, at least we've seen Sabrina or heard from her at a housewarming party at Lindsay Hubbard's house. And but Maggie, who the fuck is Maggie? Maybe maybe I missed it. It's possible. Sometimes I miss things. I screw things up. So some people are probably going to reach out to me and be like, Maggie's been in every episode, so. Sometimes I get on this podcast and it's so funny to me. I'll be like, I don't know, you know, who this is or what happened. And then I'll get like a million DMs from people be like, how did you miss this, Danny? And it's like, well, sometimes I'm typing and I miss things. But Maggie, if I find out that she's been in every episode and I just like blocked her out like a trauma response, then I'm going to have to talk to my therapist about that actually, because I don't know who this Maggie is, but maybe she's been around. But anyway, I'm happy that Jesse's maturing. He seems like he's doing good and he's not flirting, which is good. So then we cut to, oh, there's the weirdest fucking. I have the chills just even thinking about this. You got the fucking chills because Amanda sees West on one of those big ass chairs, like a chase lounge. Is that what you call those outdoor chase lounge? It was like a big couch outside. Anyway, Amanda sees West Cuddlin with the scale that he was making out with next to Sierra and Amanda's like, oh, I'm going to go crash this. And so then she goes to cuddle with West and this woman. Like Amanda girl, like, oh, what the fuck are you doing? Like this is so weird to me. Knowing what we know now to see like Amanda, because I'm looking at it like, oh, Amanda was like jealous that West was flirting with some other woman, even if her and West weren't fucking at this time, which I kind of feel in my gut, they were, but what do I know? It still was like a big red flag, smoke and gun weird thing that she was just like, I'm going to go cuddle with West and she was like doing it in the name of Sierra of like, oh, I'm going to, I'm going to go break that up because he was just making out with her in front of Sierra. And it was like, no, actually, Amanda, this is so fucking weird. And then as if it could get any weirder, you guys, I, I already thought like I got, I literally got goosebumps watching. I was like, this is so fucked up. And then as if it couldn't get any weirder, then Sabrina was like trying to be part of the in-crowd or something. Like that's, that's how I took it. Sabrina's like, I'm going to go do that now. And so then Amanda left West and the woman and then Sabrina was like, I'm going to go cuddle with them now. And then Sabrina went and did it. And I was like, everybody is like so fucking weird right now. Like nobody's acting normal. And everybody needs to read the room or I guess they're outside, but read the room metaphorically because Sabrina, her then cuddling up with the West. I was like, you don't even know West in this person, but she was just trying to like be like Amanda or something. I'm like, the last person you need to be like is Amanda Petula. And so when Sabrina did that and she was crashing like Amanda did, I was like, this is so like, and granted, I want to stick up for Sabrina because she's my Ohio sister, but she didn't know that Amanda was doing it because she was jealous, I believe. So Sabrina was just doing it to be cool, which is not worse, but it's not great. But anyway, it was weird. It was also weird. And it was like West is falling asleep outside too. Cause he was so drunk. Mia was ready to fuck him up. And I was hoping that at the reunion, who do you think is going to fuck him up the most? Like who do you think is going to let him have it? Remember at the, the Scandival reunion where it was like everybody's going after Tom Sandoval? It's like, I don't think they're going to come in because it's very different than Scandival. So it's not like they're going to come in with that level of energy, but someone I think is going to come in hot against West. And I don't, I actually don't feel like it's going to be Sierra. I don't think it's going to be Kyle. I don't think it's going to be Carl. I think it's might be Mia. And I hope it is. Cause me in this episode was ready to fuck him up. Amanda said she wanted, um, though the thing that confuses me about the way that she's wanting to be with the West now, and we're seeing them out in public and stuff. And even if you kind of get over what happened, it's like, you could say, oh, they, they might've just fallen in love. But what I don't understand is that ever since we've known Amanda on the screen, or at least for the past few seasons in particular, she's been wanting kids. And then then I think in interviews, she had been saying like she wanted to get her mental health in order before starting a family with Kyle. And then for a while though, she was saying like Kyle's not ready, but then she had said she wanted a mature guy and she wanted a guy who doesn't go out at night and, and she wanted kids and all this stuff. So it's like of all people to pick her to go out with, then you're going out the West, like that doesn't make any sense because the least mature person in the house probably is West. So, uh, what, if you wanted someone who's not going out at night, and then it's like she was so mad at Kyle for going out and partying, which I was on her side for, I thought it was weird. That he was going, I still do. It's like, get home to your wife. But then now I'm like, well, she was saying she wanted a guy that's staying home at night, but then she's posting that she's got to get better back to her mental health. And then she's going out on to New York bar hop and with West. It's like, well, what, what? She needs to love herself. She does. She needs to, and maybe that's just it. She just doesn't, maybe she met Kyle pretty young. And so maybe she just needs to learn and grow. And we hope that we hope that for everybody. We do. I pretty makes mistakes. Everybody does dumb shit when you're in your twenties, but she, she is fully formed. So I don't want to like infantilize her, but it is, we hope that anyone grows much like we just said with Jesse. It's like, yeah, everybody wants, needs to show growth and stuff. But none of it adds up to me because I'm like, girl, we've been seeing you on screen, say you don't want Kyle to go out in the town. And then you, now you're settling down with the West of all people wet him, him, him, him, him, him. No, no, absolutely not. Okay. So then she writes Dick on West forehead and she was just being really weird about the West and Sierra thing. It was like Amanda was acting more jealous than Sierra. I don't know. Kyle sticks up for West though. So this was so layered. This whole thing was like so layered. This is drama. And when he does Amanda got out of the town, he's like, oh, I'm going to get out of the town. I'm going to get out of the town. I'm going to get out of the town. I'm going to get out of the town. And when he does Amanda got like extra mad at Kyle and Amanda's like, this is the battle you want to choose. And Kyle's like, you're being unreasonable Amanda. And it's like, yeah, she was being unreasonable because she was in love with West like this was also weird. And Amanda eventually walked away and Carl was chiming in and Amanda goes to talk to Mia and Sierra and she can't tell Sierra that she was jealous about West flirting with this other gal at the party, but it was like, that's what it was going on. And then she was like masking that by saying she was mad at Kyle for chiming in. I was like, this is all so fucked up. This is Shakespearean, I thought. Um, and also diabolical that she was like then going to Sierra. I was like, what the fuck are you doing? And then Bailey even said Bailey's like, she didn't think it was a problem that West was like making out with this other woman because she's like, oh, yeah, West and Sierra aren't together, but Bailey does even say she's like, well, the same chair is a problem because like Sierra is next to you on the chair. And that, to me, was also this situation because I'm not someone who doesn't, I don't, I don't think West should not be with another woman or should not flirt or hook up with other women on the show. Like even taking out where the man to situation that's happening in real time. Like I was sort of of the opinion like, yeah, him and Sierra weren't working out. So like it's okay for him to date other people or whatever. There he's, he's single. She's single, whatever. But it is fucked up to like make out with some woman sitting next to Sierra. Like that is fucked up. That's not normal. And Bailey agrees with me. My girl Bailey agrees. So just this for Bailey, just leave I even there this week. I don't know. I'm West complains though, that Sierra only flipped through like every 48 hours and everybody there is like, that's pretty good average. Like that's pretty good. Meanwhile, Sierra is crying to Amanda and me about West and Sierra says West is back in jail. She's like, yeah, I'm putting him back in jail. She doesn't trust him. She doesn't want to be friends with them. She says, he doesn't see me. How can you be friend to someone who doesn't see me? And she's saying this to Amanda, who doesn't see her. Oh God, this is diabolical. That's where I was like, Amanda, you need to come clean. Like Hillary Duff in the early 2000s, you need to come clean girl. Because that's not okay. Sierra's telling you that she's hurt by West and then you're going to go fuck West. That's fucked up. Next time in the show, we get Scott shows up at the house, Levy or Levi is there. Amanda's not there. West and Sierra talk. Oh, you guys, the show, the show. Sometimes these Bravo shows, it's like you get rewarded by watching these over so long because I think like you learn the mechanics of the show. And so you understand the behind the scenes nature of things. You follow these people on social media. So you know things that are happening in real time. And then you, when you're with this show so long, you have history with these people. So then even sometimes when the shows are boring, I think we got to stick with them because something could happen like on Vanderpump rules, summer house or even in Miami, you know, I'm devastated right now because Lisa Hoxstein and the, the boyfriend, they're under like criminal investigations. And the Miami cameras are not up and it's devastating to me because it's like, we've been with these people. That could be something that's so great to watch. Unfortunately, like their trauma is entertainment for the rest of us. And it's entertainment in a way that is great because we've been with these people for so many years. And so that's like the payoff. And so now it's something like Miami, we're not getting the payoff, but you see summer house, we've been with these people for years. And so we're from an entertainment level. Granna, we don't want them to be in disarray and their personal lives, but I guess that's the job they sign up for when they go on reality TV. But it is a payoff. And so sticking with some of these shows, some of these people, even in the down times, you think I got, I got to stick with them. Got to stick with my people, even when the shows are bad. That's Miami or Beverly Hills. I'm watching every single week, despite the fact that I think it's one of the worst shows on TV because I know that one day in my payoff, maybe this week, maybe it would be this week for the finale, maybe it'll be three seasons from now. I'm not sure, but I can't give it up because I don't know when that point will be and I need to be ready for it. I need to clock in to work. You know, watch, watch my stories and clock in to work. Anyway, thank you all so much for listening. We'll be back later this week with the Valley recap, or at least that's the goal and the plan. You know, we got a sick house, so I'm trying to fend off the germs and take care of the baby and Matt and I are, we switch off. So we, we, but we're trying to deal with colds in the house and snot and flim. There's the baby too, you know, you can't control where that's not going. So he's crawling all over the place, just snotting on everything, just everywhere, every single thing. I don't know where this not coming from, but it's going on all the furniture, all the surfaces, so be it. And even, you know, he's also at that phase, my son, he like, he puts everything in his mouth, of course. And then he's now also doing that thing where he like hands you something. It's like he wants to give you something, but then, and then he wants it back. So he'll put a toy in his mouth and then he gives it to you. Or he also will do that where it's like, he'll put something in his mouth and then he'll just jam it in your mouth. Or sometimes when I'm feeding him at night, he's before he's going to bed, he's got, he'll put the whole hand in his mouth and just slobber all over the whole hand. And then before I even have like a chance to move my head, quickly take it out of his mouth and put it in my mouth. And it's like, I don't want your slobbering, but you can't do anything. It's a baby, you know, like, but he'll just shove something in your mouth and just shove the toy that he's been drooling all over in your mouth. And it's like, okay, well, I guess I got those germs now, unfortunately. And you can't do anything about it. What are you going to do? It's a 10 month old baby. Bebe. Anyway, we're all doing our best. Shout out to all the other parents out there who are going through the sickness with a kid because it really is tough. And it's also so hard to watch a kid be seen. And this is just a little cold. I can't even imagine. I think about people who go through, I don't even want to talk about it. It's like devastating. If anyone out there is going through a tough time with their little kid, I just um, sending you all the love, need the love, need the love. Hopefully find some laughs in the podcast or somewhere else because it's hell, it's hell. And we're all in the brim. I'm already on the brim of freaking out on the brim of freaking out. Okay. I love you all so much for listening. Come back later this week for the Valley recap. Hopefully fingers crossed and find me on social media at Danny Pellegrino. Get my books wherever books are sold. Go to everything iconic.store if you want March. And then also I'm doing the Sex and the City recaps on Patreon. All the information that I try to put in that description. Does your day move faster than you can keep up with new Gatorade lower sugar? My family and I can stay at the top of our game. No artificial flavors, sweetness or colors, 75% less sugar and all the electrolytes of regular Gatorade. Now available nationwide. 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