1436 - Fun Charlie is a Unicorn into Swinging, MFM Threesomes and More

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You get a link to my Discord or get my book or join my Patreon. You get it from all that. Last thing I want to tell you about is if you are looking to get into the lifestyle, the site I recommend to everybody is SDC.com. SDC.com is like the world's largest online adult dating site. It's so much more than a dating site. It's more than a pickup place. You go on there. You're going to learn everything about the lifestyle. They have live events. They have educational stuff that you can learn on there. They also will tell you where all the gang bangs and swinger clubs and orgies and parties that are going on in your area and your neighborhood. Or if you're traveling, you can find out what's going on there too. That's what's great about SDC. It's like a one-stop shop for the lifestyle. And if you use my code 37712, you're going to get a free trial so you could check it out. Go to SDC.com, use code 37712, or just go to the description and click on the link. All the links, everything I told you about including my Patreon is in the description. So anyway, today I have on Fun Charli and she was fun to talk to. She's got a super interesting story. She's done a lot in a short time because really her entry into the lifestyle didn't start until COVID. She was in a long-term relationship. She was married and she got divorced. And she started to do all the things that her and her guy talked about doing but never did. And she wound up meeting a guy on a site and he got her into the lifestyle and she got into BDSM and she talks all about it. She talks about that first night, all the first that she did, you know, threesomes. She got into couple swapping. She does call herself a unicorn. She did a lot of unicorning. If you call it that in the lifestyle, she talks about all of it. She talks about the very specific hot stories. She talks about the things that, you know, happened while she's in the lifestyle that were great. She talks about the couples that she met. And she also talks about the things that weren't so great. She went into the lifestyle within a relationship and that relationship didn't work out. And she talks about why it didn't. And she also talks about why being a unicorn sometimes can be lonely. I've heard that before. She explains that as well. She's in a new relationship now and we talk about that and who she's with is super interesting. But her whole story is fascinating. Eventually she wound up doing OnlyFans because she loves being in the lifestyle. She loves everything that she does and she, she, and so that was a natural fit for her. And she's on there. She gives out, she gives a shout out to her OnlyFans. You'll hear that in the episode and all of the information for her will be in the description. She's super hot. I have pics of her over on my Patreon, but all of her links, like I said, are in the description. You're going to love her story. So I'm going to get right to it and be right back on with Fun Charlie. Hi, Fun Charlie. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. How are you today? I'm good. Thank you for having me. No, thanks for calling in. Listen, the way I met you, Fun Charlie, a little backstory, which was kind of funny, is I was taping with Doc Chocolate, who was recently on my show. He's got his own podcast. He's a content creator and we were about to tape and then he starts talking about this chick that's like over in the bed. I mean, I'm sure you guys just fucked or I don't know if you got done doing content or whatever, but that's how I met you. You were at Doc Chocolate's house in his bed. When I spoke with him, I was like, why not come on my show? You are in the lifestyle. You're a unicorn. You're also a content creator too, which I think is cool. Why not? I'm assuming the lifestyle and being a unicorn and having all this kind of crazy sex we're going to talk about came before and then you just decided to do content creating because that's what started to be the thing to do, right? Absolutely. Years ago and so you did that. So let's, we'll work up to that. You do have an only fans, right? I do. Is it Fun Charlie? It is fun underscore Charlie underscore XXX. Okay, cool. We'll give a shout out again at the end, but anyone driving, don't worry about all the links and everything. It's got to be in the description, right? Yes. And like I said, we'll work up to how you started that and why, but let's go all the way back. I'm just going to tell you Charlie right now. You're a unicorn, which means you're a female that likes hooking up a couple solo. How did you get, did you get into the lifestyle first? Did you become a unicorn first? I don't know what started first or where it started and when. What comes to chicken or the egg. So I was married for about 18 years and divorced and spent like four years on my own trying to figure things out, settling things. Were you vanilla in your marriage? Yes, we were very vanilla, but when I left, it was kind of a weird thing. It was a toxic marriage. And so after I left all the things that he wanted me to be into that I would have eventually gotten into myself, but it was more from a forced aspect. I all of a sudden became very interested in, in and into. Oh my God, you're like me. You're a contrarian when he wanted you to do it. You're like, fuck you. But then when you're free to do it on your own, you're like, I'm going to try that. Exactly. Exactly. I like that. And there was like this feeling that he was asking me to do something. And then once I did that, he would try to see what else I would do and each thing would be more degrading and more what he wanted, nothing what I wanted. So even me trying to figure out what I wanted, it wasn't going to get done because he wasn't into what I wanted. He was into what he wanted. And so I lived by myself during the pandemic, which gave me a lot of time on my hands and I took a deep dive into kind of what I liked. I kind of went into the BDSM lifestyle because I already had spanking and choking and hair pulling and stuff like that. And I was like, okay, let me see if there's anything to that. If I'm just kind of a visitor or do I like all that stuff kind of more hardcore. So I did, I took, there's a lot of tests. There's one really good one BDSM test.org. That's a very good, very thorough one. And it gave me a very good idea of what I liked, what I might try to get into and stuff like that. And that kind of led me to online forums and I got into online dating a little bit. I was, I was trying to avoid that. I just was not into the apps and stuff, but I did get on one. And I met someone, we met on OkCupid. OkCupid at the time. I've heard it's changed a little bit since then, but at the time you could answer all these sex questions. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah. And connect with someone else who liked the same type of sex you did. And that's how I met my partner or my ex-partner. And I was complaining about my experiences with vanilla guys and vanilla meaning not in the lifestyle. Yeah. And he was like, well, you need to get into the lifestyle. And I'm like, well, what's that? He's like the swinging lifestyle. And I was like, you mean key parties? And he's, no, that's like 70s old stuff. And he's like, no, this is totally different. And he explained it. And I was like, okay, sign me up. You know, you've got people who understand that you want to have sex and it's fun. And there are rules and etiquette. You know, for the most part, people want to be safe with sex. And that's one of my big things with vanilla guys trying to get them to our condom is like, it's insane. That's what I always say. Because a lot of times I get people making really sort of to me to be judgmental rude comments to my people in the lifestyle. Like, do they use condoms? And I always like news flash. No one uses fucking condoms. And probably they use them more than the regular people. Okay. Because I fucked a lot of guys in my life. And most people, and I'm a hypo-conjurect. So I'm very into safe sex. I'm always like, that's the best partner to get another hypo-conjurect. Because those are the people that put it on, right? Everybody else doesn't want to fucking use a condom and they don't. Okay. It's just the way that it is. So this guy though tells you like, you ask about that and he tells you it's all good. Like you have control over all of that. And that was super important to you. So it was appealing to say, get into this. So what happened after he tells you about everything? So we meet and have a date. And then we have a really great, like we were meeting as friends with benefits. We neither one of us wanted a relationship. So he came down for a weekend and we had a great like first weekend and we played and it was just like, okay, awesome. This is great. And after I would say a few weekends of that, a few, maybe a month or two of him, because we lived a few hours apart. We accidentally met because I forgot to change the distance. So but he was like, Hey, there's this lifestyle pool party. I'd love for you to go. And I'm like, okay, let's let's do it. I'm just going to jump in. And I'm so glad he came to pick me up because I think I was taken down driving up there. But he came to get me. We had a really cool. It was a very, it was a great first experience. The people were awesome. I got to do a lot of firsts. And before this, I did have some experience with new nudists. So I wasn't totally afraid of being nude in front of people and I wasn't weirded out by people being nude in front of me. I just had not seen sex in front of me. That wasn't me. What were the first that you encountered that night then? So being naked wasn't a first in front of people, but what was your first? Well, being naked in front of that many people was definitely a first. But I, you know, I got to watch people fucking. I got to, we, we fucked each other in front of people. Yeah, that's hot, right? We just didn't join in. Yeah, it was just like, okay, he's, he's baby stepping. We're doing this slow. But then that night, so we left a little earlier from that party than we normally would have because that was more of a play party, late night running party. But we had plans that night with another couple, but then the woman dropped out. So it was the three of us and I'm like, well, we can still have fun. And so I had my first MFM for three hours that night and had a blast. And so it was like the first day into the lifestyle was like a huge, a huge, awesome beginning. And I was like, sign me up. This is, this is amazing. And I think for a lot of people in the lifestyle, once you find it, it's like this is filling a huge void in my life that I didn't know was there. And now it's like, I feel complete. Like I found my people. Wow, that's interesting. Yeah. Yeah, it was definitely an awakening. It was for sure. And I grew up very strict Catholic family and it was very kind of pushed upon us that life doesn't start until you get married. And, you know, there was kind of an idea like you can be a slutty, but you have to be that with your husband. And so I was on this like major quest to find my husband. So I do this, but, you know, that's not the only reason you wanted to get married. So that did not go well. But yeah. So finally, I'm getting to be. 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Now, I'm assuming because you're a unicorn that you hook up with women, too, was that like your first time doing that, that first night, or just you're done, like the two guys? No. So yeah, so that was my first time being actually, yeah, it was my first time with you guys. I hadn't, I still had not at that point. I didn't know I was fully by then. Yeah. And it took me another, I'd say almost a year in the lifestyle to really like, I had, I had, I think up to that point, I had played with women a little bit, nothing more than kissing or whatever. Yeah. And, but I don't know, I think most women, it's just, if you are not sure, and the goal is, okay, I'll know when I eat a pussy. Yeah, totally. I was like, yeah, when I go down to somebody, I'll know that'll be my telltale. Yeah. And it's so daunting at first, and it took me forever to get the courage up to do it. And then when I did it, it was with a friend and I was just like, in the moment, and I was just like, I'm going for it. And I was like, fuck, yeah, I'm, I'm totally, I'm totally by and I'm really good at this. And it was really fun. And so yeah, so since then it's been like, oh yes, this is, this is the whole thing for me. And then that's when I started kind of pursuing couples. But let's go back to the, the guy experience. He did the two guys. That was the first time, right? And what now did the guys do each other or was it? No, it's M F M, right? So no guy and guy. Yeah, it was M F M. So they didn't touch each other. Now the guys I was with, they're fluid so that, that usually means that they're not opposed to Dix touching for the sake of DVP or DP and stuff like that. Did you do that with that? Not that night, but I did have anal for the first time. Uh, willing, not, I say willingly, I wasn't ever forced into anal, but it was coercive, you know, please do me. Like begging anal, very reluctant anal. And, but this was the first time I had done it because I wanted to do it and I was like, fuck yes, I love anal. Yeah. So it was like, that was probably more than half of the night and blowjobs and spit roasted and just, I was, that is my jam. Like I really love, I found that I really love being the only woman with two men. That's like a, some kind of a power trip situation, I think. But yeah, I really liked that dynamic and that was, I was like, hell yeah, let's, yeah, let's do this. And he was eager to set anything up for me that I was willing and wanting to do of course. Cause. Oh yeah, he had the jackpot on, okay, cute too. Exactly. Right. So now, so what happened after that? Did you and him just continue to play in the lifestyle together? Did you continue to hook up with him or did you go solo? So I lived two hours away for a little bit longer and he would hook me up occasionally with people that he knew closer to me. And it was kind of a cool dynamic and, but then I moved closer to him. And then we started dating and going to everything as couples and I still worked. I still did my own thing as a unicorn separately, but we also did things as a couple and swapped and went to parties and stuff like that. And that was a lot of fun. It was, it was nice of a little bit of both worlds because I really like being a unicorn, but it does get lonely and the lifestyle is set up very well, much for couples. So yeah, I do like the couple dynamic. Yeah, that's interesting because I remember having, I had a lot of unicorns on and then I had one on who spoke to the negatives about being a unicorn and how like sometimes couples, because they're in the primary relationship, they're don't really understand or take into consideration that unicorns feelings, right? She just brought up this whole other side of things that I was like, oh, I couldn't, I would never even have thought of that. And I bet you the people that do that have, it's not their intention, but they don't even consider it. But when you hear it, you're like, oh, why wouldn't we consider it? And we should, you should consider it. And people don't know how to fucking treat a unicorn. Yes. And that's, that is really the problem when people are like, when, when unicorns and other people are like, don't say unicorn hunting, that is the, that is the basis for unicorn hunting. You're not caring about the, you're not seeing them as a person. You're seeing them as a, as a sex toy. And we are people and especially if we're single, you need to recognize that we don't have that other person to lean on. We don't have that other person to get our emotional needs met. So especially if you start trying to date a unicorn, it's, that's a very uneven, it starts out uneven. So as long as that is considered and, you know, thought out, I think it can work really well, but a lot of couples don't think about that. They only have their uses in mind. They only have their thoughts and their needs in mind. And they're not think, they're thinking, oh, we're in this and we get to fuck this couple. So everything is fine. And, but no, it's very emotional and you get, I picked my couples very carefully and it's still, you still, you can't be totally 100% sure that negative things aren't going to happen. But you, I think being picky is, is the first course, first step to make sure that bad things aren't happening. But yeah, it's still going to happen. Yeah, of course. And I think sometimes the best way to figure out what you do want is to figure, is to sort of experience what you don't, right? A lot of times that's just the way life happens, right? You can't sort of foresee everything ahead of you, right? But you know from experience, I'm assuming. So now, because you do say, you did say, I mean, you're not in a relationship, you weren't in a relationship that time, but that guy was kind of like a partner for you, right? Like a booty call guy that you were sort of seeing sometimes that whole year while you were like doing all your stuff. And when you became a unicorn, were you still seeing him? So yeah, so the first six months in the lifestyle, we were friends with benefits and he was hooking me up and kind of leading me through the lifestyle, but we were still not dating. Then we started dating, I would say six months into knowing each other and we're together for about two and a half years and did a lot of stuff in the lifestyle. I learned a lot. I played on my own as a unicorn, but I also did a ton of couple stuff and which I think also gives me a good perspective as a unicorn. Yeah. And you know, because I see, I can see the things that are happening between the couple and I'm like, I've been there. I know what that feels like. So it's I'm a little bit more able to be considerate of those feelings and stuff. But yeah, and honestly, the couple really has to be very honest with the unicorn. Otherwise things can go badly fast. Excuse me fast because it's because if you don't, if you're not giving a heads up that you are having an issue, if you got any jealousy problems, if it's been a problem in the past, the unicorn can treat you differently and will treat you differently and check in a lot more if they know that you are apprehensive about this. Either one of you. And so it's please be honest. I'll just be honest and everybody can have fun. You're not going to you're not going to ruin a fun time by telling someone that you maybe take this slow that you're really going to have a bad time if you don't. And they go, oh balls out there. They've been in this for a while. They know what they're doing. So yeah, these are all the things that can go wrong and do go wrong because people don't know this shit. You know what I'm saying? Yes. That's why I think these stories are super important. Let me ask you a quick question though, because you are like you did tell me, oh, I love the MFM stuff. That's kind of like my fave for some reason. You do love the couple swapping, but you do call yourself a unicorn. Why do you label yourself a unicorn? Do you like if you is it because you just because that's what you did when you were a content creator or is there something about that? Well, yeah, it's tricky because certain people you ask will say that because if I'm in a relationship, which I am again now, but and but we do play separately, totally separately. So he still considers himself a bull. I still consider myself a unicorn, but we also play in the lifestyle as a couple. So it depends on what we're doing. Oh, is Doc Chocolate your guy? I could edit that out. You could tell me that you that's your guy. He told me he's dating someone, but he couldn't tell me who it was or some shit like that. That's you. Yes, it is. Are you guys out and proud or do I have to edit this out? I'll ask. We were going to. Yeah, we were trying to figure that out and we weren't making any big announcements, but people are going to figure it out. Yes. So you're with him. He's a bull. You're and you consider yourself a unicorn because what you do solo mostly is like hook up with couples. Mostly now. Yeah. And that's or I'll just go. I've gotten to the point where I will go to the clubs alone, but I know only because I know other unicorns and I know other people. But yeah, I go in and out. Sometimes I go through phases where I want to play with couples and I go through phases where I'm like, I don't know if I want to deal with that because there is an extra level of anxiety and trying to figure them out and not step on any toes and stuff. Yeah, it's we've been doing a couple of things lately. I haven't been doing many couples with by myself lately. Yeah. So it's more in the couples mode at the moment. But that's your current partner now and we'll work up to him. But let's go back a little bit to the beginning. So you're with that guy you dated him for two years now the whole time while you guys were playing together. Did you have the same kind of setup that you have now that like you guys played together you played solo, right? That's how it went with them. It started. Yeah. So it started out as us playing together mostly and then he okay so he wanted a lot more solo time. I was still I so this was also my first non monogamous I was very much into non monogamy before him but I had not actually had the experiences. So he we were taking it slow on that course. But I did I would say another year and a half I'd say after I figured out that I was totally by that's when I probably started venturing out into a couple and doing couples, not full blast but I would occasionally if I found a couple that I liked or somebody hit me up that I might be interested then I would pursue them. But yeah so it wasn't as open I'm probably way were way more open than I've ever been but it's also a different dynamic with the current person. Yeah I got that. And now with that guy because he played solo you guys played together I'm assuming did you get off seeing him with other women did you realize oh that's like super hot to see him or was it kind of like it didn't matter or because I call that being a cuck queen right. I don't think that you have to be like tied up to be like have a cuck thing going down. Yeah girls I sort of like seeing their guy fuck other girls I call them cuck queens. Okay I like it. No so no I did not start out that way he was very much that way but this was my first non monogamy and my first situation where we're where I'm having sex with my partner or in the same room as my partner which is not necessarily a normal non monogamy thing. It is definitely a swinger thing so it did not start out that way I was very nervous about seeing him. Of course yeah it was it was scary but I did get used to it and I I started to kind of I'm very much I can change I can lessen something and I think a lot of people can do this if they put their mind to it but you can change something in your head if you just practice. If I just practice wanting to see him have sex with somebody else I feel it's way more comfortable for me to watch him. Now we had a lot of ups and downs that and the communication wasn't there with us so it was rocky and trust was broken so it was a little it was very different for me than him as far as me feeling comfortable watching him and watching him go. 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People have when they're married to their person and then they come into the lifestyle as you've known that person for so long. You've got trust down to a T you've got you guys are teammates and as long as you guys are in a good relationship and you're just wanting to add some more spice like it's like you guys have great sex and you just want to. Have great sex with other people and add this then you are in the right place. So with that guy did it end because of be when you say it ended because of like your communication problems and stuff. Absolutely we were not seeing eye to eye on communication and that was the the biggest part of everything and so it's and I am someone who definitely I need to talk things out to an extreme so that I and especially now so I've had all my. Experiences with him so I'm a little raw and trying to heal all of those and then I got into a new relationship and it's okay just to just a heads up I'm broken on this these things and I'm while my brain wants these things my emotions are a little crazy over these things so. Be considerate and just have some patients with me because but that's the thing is just like talking that stuff over so freaking important yes so so important and and learning also learning how to give your partner the reassurance that they need. I always say a little reassurance goes so fucking far so far why couples and people in like relationships sometimes are so fucking stingy with that blows my mind right it's because that which it's like a game changer yet so many people don't want to it's like a tit for tat or petty thing I don't know why but like that little thing goes so fucking far you would still be with your guy if you had gotten it right that's what he wasn't giving you that's what you needed you were probably. Telling him communicating and he wasn't giving you what you needed which is reassurance that he's still there everything's going to be okay when you're in you should be allowed and to me and listen just like. These other guys that you're with like that other guy was just like not well suited to be in a relationship with someone in the lifestyle maybe he's a great solo lifestyle guy but he is right so solo but very much yes but I know guys plenty of guys that are. Professional lifestyle people in a couple there's so many guys that would that are smart enough to know to do all that so I feel like you're just haven't met the right person and hopefully the guy you're with now is that right person but there's plenty of them out there you know what I mean and I think yes any guy would be stupid not to be that way because. When you get a girl like you or anyone and I always say this like why would you look a gift horse in the mouth it really is at the end of the day in the lifestyle it's a woman's world I mean you have to go and she does kind of rule it right and when she doesn't look it doesn't work out because I think the woman is more likely to maybe have some feelings were a little wired a little bit differently when. Yes you don't tend to that it's not going to be good and it's going to be exactly yes and and to that point it I've also ran into so I'm on all these forums for lifestyle and stuff and people right in and I have seen so many it's got there the thing that I think a lot of women are afraid of especially unicorns it's like. You can get into a relationship where the guy is using you just to be as a couple because it's hard for a single guy to get to function well in the lifestyle so they latch on to women and it's are you using me just to get other women or are you actually wanting to be with me and do this together and that's a huge hurdle of trying to figure out sometimes when you do get with someone in the lifestyle. Oh that's interesting yeah I could see yeah but yeah there's a lot of guys that don't know what the hell they're doing. Yeah I call them so okay so let's so now okay you've done you you eventually like you said did DVP I know you did spit roasting the first time have you ever done gangbangs what are some of the things that you did over all those years of being in the lifestyle. In the lifestyle okay so I've never done DVP I've done DP multiple times which I love that but yeah so I did I really liked the group stuff I really so what I found is I as especially as a couple I am very bad at meeting people from online and then go in person and I'm usually the last person to go yes I want to fuck these people yeah and so I really hate the pressure so if if we got to a point where it's like okay if we want to meet a couple we're going to in a group. Invite them to either like a club or something to where there's other people they can fuck just in case it doesn't it doesn't happen because I just yeah I really in person person so if I haven't met you if I haven't smelled you. I need to know what you smell and stuff so that that that was something that I figured out so I but I also do really like the spontaneous situations I really do not like setting up play dates for some reason I like just for things to happen and some of the best group things have happened in spontaneous situations you cannot plan that shit out. And so yeah that I would say group stuff and to where there's like I mean there's one night where we went to a meet and greet and everybody ended up it was like four couples to unicorns ended up in someone's hotel room and we all fucked for hours and it was like you could not have set that up you couldn't have I mean you may have you maybe could have but there would have been people cancelling and get backing out and stuff but when it's when it's spontaneous like that it's just. It's really hard to argue that that's not a better situation but yeah so some girl on girls stuff. Do you do solo girls like just you and a girl or is it always typically with a couple. It's you I would we would end up with big unicorns and stuff but there's always usually like I'm by and I would say I'm on the I would say 40% by because I there's usually a dick I need to end with a dick. I just like I need a dick in the mix I haven't had one girl on girl only experiences but I've been and I don't know what you call it it's not pegging when you get fucked by a girl on a woman but yeah I've done that a couple times it's okay it's not my favorite thing but we've done ffms mfms I have not done many I've done like almost a partial mf which is hot to and its own aspect. Yeah are you into that because a lot of girls wind up seeing it because I've heard from a lot of women and and some of them were like they were never and I mean some of them were like yeah I was totally into that I think it's hot but some of them even the ones who were like I never looked at it or never thought that they would when they actually saw it in real life they were like holy shit it was like the biggest turn on like. When you have seen it did you get turned on. Yes absolutely yeah it's definitely a turn on and I was like oh I didn't know I was gonna be into that but yeah absolutely. Yeah that's interesting. Yeah you you learn so many things that you're just and God with the lifestyle and especially crossed with BDSM on a Monday you could be like oh that is there's no way I'm gonna be into that and then by Friday you're like I might try that out. No way I forgot about the whole BDSM angle are you a sub or a Dom. Yeah I'm more I'm a switch technically but I am much more comfortable in the sub in the sub than the Dom when I a Dom I do it and it's fun for five minutes and then I run out of things to do and I'm I don't think anymore. Oh my God how far have you taken it as a sub. I have gone as far as like looking for a Dom for like regular play stuff I was not interested in the 24 hour lifestyle giving up all yeah that's not doesn't. People don't understand there's a lot of mental stuff that goes down sometimes. Oh yeah that's what you mean right you didn't want to sign up for all of that. Yes no no I did not win because mainly because I have not met one person that has presented it ethically to me. Yeah I have not met a man at least that has talked about or presented things and didn't give show any red flags basically so I was definitely not interested in any 24 hour all day every day. But I did dabble a few with my my last partner we did dabble with finding a couple Dom's and played some and learn some stuff that I liked and didn't like and and but yeah so and there's a weird mix there I would say there's a good percentage of people that in the lifestyle that are into BDSM but then there are definitely people that are split that are absolutely don't want anything to do with it so. Yeah for sure I mean they typically tend to be two different places right like even the meet and greet is for like swingers and munchers or meet and greets for BDSM people right I mean it's kind of like a two separate world sometimes there's BDSM nights at a swing or party right but typically they're not intertwined that much. No I would say at a club more places like secrets that's where I frequented they've got a dungeon and there is a there's there are more BDSM people there I would think or that I have noticed then other parties and stuff like that so I think it depends on where you're going to. And how much pain are you into. I love so I found out during the pandemic that being raised by an authoritarian is definitely the situation that built that can make a masochist. Definitely a masochist and very confused at the beginning of how in the world I could be because I don't like all pain but turns out masochist don't like all pain they like specific types of pain and I was like the same kind of pain. Yeah and I'm very much a study person I like the impact I can take that all day long you can you can go pretty freaking hard on me with study stuff but if you do stingy stuff I am a little baby. I can see how that there's a difference and you figured that out through trying stuff. Yes yeah you just start trying and I honestly during the pandemic I did it by on my own I like I did it myself I started you can there's all kinds of kitchen utensils you can hit yourself with the see if you like. Stingy or study what's a study versus study is more like a flogger heavy spanking like a heavy spoon or. You'll like as soon as you get hit it if there is it's like a hard impact it's more study yeah if it is a light I would say like whips and tiny devices. Yeah or more stingy those things are like that hurts immediately and I'm like nope I'm out stop but study I can do I like it and I do it and there are there's some. Other medical reasons also like I was in a car accident so I've got fibromyalgia and I've got a lot of nerve issues and there are a lot of people that get into flogging to help reset those. Intentions to help you brain. Yes yes and it has and it can really kind of reset that and it's it's very interesting. Yeah that is super interesting but it makes sense mechanically it does really. It does think about it right. Nerves can always rejuvenate sometimes they just take really long and they need help sometimes and that helps it. Exactly and there's a big discussion about fibro and how it is and this communication between those nerves and the brain and so flogging especially there are people that man have it down to a specific you you flog me this way this way this way for five minutes and this way you do it and they've got it down to where they put their fibro endorphin. And then you have the recession or remission for weeks on end and it's wow it's insane. Yeah it's so fascinating. I could talk to you about that for an hour. I love medical stuff. So you break up with that guy. I mean we're talking about a very short time here because you even mentioned before like I still have that trauma and everything because it's not like you're 10 years out of that relationship. You're still stuck on him. I mean you only started in the pandemic then met him you were with him for two and a half years. When does the whole content creating and then meeting your new guy take place. OK so at the end of the last relationship and I say trauma and it was Trump traumatic but we did have a lot of really good. Of course still friends with him. We're still you know talking and and friendly. He's like the first guy that brought me into lifestyle. It's hard to not to end that without just like saying goodbye and not staying with at least a friendship in that course regard. But of course. So so yeah I mean I think you get to a point and you're like I'm doing this and this is so much fun and I feel like I could do this for content. I already had an only fans but I wasn't showing my face. I was still trying to figure out if I could do it if I was going to be good at it or whatever. And then my my partner and I were still together and we went to a lifestyle meet and greet and met a couple and they were like oh my god. We're doing this. We're it's working for us. We're making great money. Let's come to a dinner and we'll we'll talk about it and whatever. And so we did and they were like you've got to do this. You'll you'd be great at it. They come to a shoot house. You can we've got a shoot coming this weekend. We run a shoot house. You can you don't have to do anything or you can shoot a couple things and see how you do. And so that's what I did and they kind of showed me the ropes a little and I took to it very well. And I was like immediately. Yeah this is freaking awesome. I want to get paid to do this and so that started me. I mean I started showing my face on Twitter and that was just in February. Calling London's one million small businesses is now one place to get free access to all the support you'll need. 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I did have a few family members that I was like that may not be the greatest but at this point I because of other health issues. I was having a hard time like working outside of my house on a regular basis and needed to work for myself and then I was like OK but I can also do this and paying myself to take care of myself which is ideal. Like yeah and then they came along and I was like OK so I didn't have to worry about having a big career that could have been outed. I didn't have to worry. No kids right kids. OK no kids so I didn't have to worry about that. I had a family member or two but it was like I got to do what I got to do and I got to make money so I'm going to just I just did it. I was just like screw it. I've done it for a year with no face. It was kind of working for me but not really and then that happened and it was like OK I'm going to do this and I did it and within a month after my face was on Twitter. My pussy was out on Twitter. I am out there and there is there is definitely a freedom that comes with that. It's what is someone. No one can do anything to me now. What are they going to do. Put me out. Put me up naked on. I've been doing way more worse things than being naked on the Internet. So at this point I feel very it feels very invincible to a point and free. Yeah. Yeah. It was very nice. I started doing that and they they kept showing me a little bit and a little bit and I was like oh my God this is great. It's working and it's there's so much more marketing and I have a graphic design background. So I was using all of my schooling and stuff. That's what I find actually it's it's so there everyone has school. Most of the people I run into have some kind of schooling that they are using. They're like they come from a marketing background design background business background. It's like all over the place but everybody's using the knowledge that they have and it you know the people that are doing well with it. Well that's what I was going to say. That's because the content creators that are doing it consistently. Exactly. I have people and what what people don't understand because everybody wants to start an only fans anything. Oh I'm going to make like millions of dollars. Why not like a minute but they don't understand that it does. There is marketing graphic design. There's so much more to it. Oh man. That's just having fun and 90% of it is. Yeah. I get so mad when people are so rude when you know when only fans like going to be shut down like people are making jokes like oh all the people are going to have to go back and work at McDonald's it's please like anybody that's making any kind of money doing anything. I don't give a fuck if it's only fans or podcasting or they're working in a bank like they're working their fucking asses off like nothing like you don't build an only fans account and then and then you don't ever tend to it and just makes you thousands of dollars every month like you're tending to my god. 2047 all the fucking time and that's why half the time when I like repeat episodes of people with only fans accounts people will be like where's the only fans like I clicked on it they're fucking gone. Oh what happened to them like what happened to them they realized like it's a lot of fucking work and they didn't have the time for it that's what probably happens. Yes. Yes exactly. It's an insane amount of work and yeah you really. Yeah and I still wasn't doing and it's overwhelming to because there's so much information online and stuff and that's actually so I was with them for about a month or so and then there was this telegram group that I was trying to get into because there's a lot of creators swapping tips and stuff and I got into that and I hit up the guy that runs it and we got to talking and he's got a podcast and so he's the only podcaster in the lifestyle this is perfect I was like great and then we did the podcast and hit it off really well and he was like let's do a zoom date and I was like I didn't know people did that still okay. So we both had our glasses of alcohol and we just chatted for four hours and the first night and a couple we did a couple more times and he was very just very open and we had a lot of similar experiences with the lifestyle and what went wrong in our last relationships with the lifestyle and we had a very clear picture of what we wanted in the future and that was very similar and I still was like adamant because I had just gotten out of a relationship not too long before and I was like I am not falling for this person and I am not getting a relationship but yeah he was awesome and won me over so now we're dating but we have done a couple lifestyle things already and it has been a completely different experience. But do you like him yet? That's what I was going to say so you already have feelings for him and you know because I don't know really the timeline how long you've been with him but like with this guy it's different in that even though you have serious feelings for him you're seeing him doing stuff and you're cool with it it's all good. I am so much it's a totally different thing when you've got open communication from the very beginning and he's been very clear about he is with me and I come first and he backs it up and it's not just talk that's what has happened and if I have an issue or if he has an issue we're able to bring it up and resolve it within a few minutes instead of blowing up and fights and all this stuff. Listen I think the difference between your guy now and your other guy is he was a guy like you said he had been in the lifestyle in a relationship right and you had to the other guy was always a solo guy right and that's why this guy is more considerate you know what I mean I think he's that's the kind of guy you want to be with like he's already navigated right the lifestyle as in a relationship he's not like a single guy in there. Well the other guy was also in a relationship but you know it didn't yeah and I guarantee you it probably ended the same for the same reasons because the communication issue and unfortunately it's probably going to be that way for most of his relationships but yes it is definitely and the thing about and I just we're recording right yeah. Yeah I could add it out if you want to say something. Oh Doc's cool with leaving in the part we didn't want anyone to know until we knew we were good as far as if we're going to be in the relationship for good or if we announced it and then a week later we're like oh we're not going to be together and it was embarrassing. It's okay to leave it in yeah. All right but let me just add like all right because we're going to wrap it up anyway in five to ten minutes but let me just say something that brings that back since now that I know. So okay so I think it's different because listen I know who you're with right we were going to edit out of the podcast but you were told you could leave it in so we left it apart where we outed it is Doc chocolate and I know it is because I just interviewed him that he was in the lifestyle before with a partner that's how he started so he's like a professional more probably more knows the lifestyle with a partner than not because so I think you're in good hands now. Yeah no and actually he he was with his partner but they didn't play together and so he had a different dynamic but he did have other partners that he played with at parties that he go to parties with. Yes and I think he's also seen a lot of other situations that didn't work and why they didn't work and stuff and yes very considerate and very communicative and that was the biggest thing the communication and being able to talk about your feelings and stuff that's that's huge you gotta be aware of. How you're feeling about stuff so we can work it out and because listen it sounds like you navigated at some for some time solo do you prefer being in a relationship in the lifestyle. I do I get lonely as a unicorn but also I have also realized that if I have a night of really intense sex the next day I really need to have a person to be touching and to get that I'm very much. A touchy person and if I don't have somebody the next day I drop badly and I've I've found some things to mitigate that but I definitely I really like the the teamwork and the going in as a team and having like a social person that is my social buffer. I'm not a big social person so going to party and having somebody who's very extroverted and able to do a lot of the talking for me is huge. Yeah I love that it's I didn't know when he's like oh I got this girl here just thought it was like maybe you guys just filmed the scene but you know yeah. It started that way. Yeah I feel like I could talk to you for another hour and get so much information I'll probably have you back on when we talk just like about unicorns and navigating the list I'll do girl talk episodes but why don't you do me a favor and give like a shout out to all your stuff again so people could find you and just to tell people what they see and get on your only fans. Thank you. Yeah so my only fans is fun underscore Charlie underscore XXX and at this point you get a video a day and I usually release like one full length collab a week. Sometimes it's a couple sometimes but mostly it's like once a week and then I also am checking in and post pictures and random stuff and then my Twitter and Instagram are both fun Charlie for 20. And then I also have fun Charlie dot com that you can find all of those links also great so send me whatever you want me to put in the description right so people can find you and thanks so much for calling in and can if you can for my Patreon if you could send me like hot picks from my Patreon I love that you're out and proud to be anonymous right because you're not anonymous for sure. 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