Summary
The Cinephobe podcast hosts discuss their top 5 co-workers from film and television, debating what makes an ideal workplace colleague. The episode features extended discussions about character selections from movies like Waiting, Rocky IV, The Goods, and Final Destination, with hosts disagreeing on definitions and qualifications throughout.
Insights
- Co-worker quality is defined by reliability, work ethic, and ability to maintain positive energy under stress rather than job title or seniority
- The distinction between 'boss' and 'co-worker' is contextual—supervisors who maintain peer relationships and social connections function better as colleagues
- Humor and personality can compensate for workplace stress; naturally funny people who handle pressure well are valued co-workers despite chaos
- Team dynamics matter more than individual talent; supporting colleagues through their struggles builds stronger workplace culture than individual achievement
- Audience engagement and community feedback, even when off-topic or tangential, indicates strong listener connection to podcast content
Trends
Workplace culture increasingly values emotional intelligence and stress management over pure technical competencePodcast audiences expect hosts to engage with community feedback, even when critical or off-topicCharacter analysis from film provides framework for discussing real workplace dynamics and professional relationshipsListener participation in podcast debates drives engagement and creates parasocial investment in host opinionsComedic reframing of workplace frustrations (service industry, corporate hierarchies) resonates with broad audience demographics
Topics
Workplace Co-worker DynamicsTeam Building and Workplace CultureLeadership vs. Peer RelationshipsStress Management in High-Pressure JobsCharacter Analysis from Film and TelevisionAudience Engagement and Community FeedbackService Industry Work ExperienceLoyalty and Reliability in Professional SettingsHumor as Workplace Coping MechanismSupervisor vs. Boss Distinctions
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NBA
Referenced as employer of podcast hosts discussing co-workers in sports context
People
Zach
Co-host debating co-worker selections and defending picks throughout episode
Maze
Co-host making picks and critiquing co-worker selections with focus on team dynamics
Amin Assen
Referenced as co-host of NBA conspiracy podcast mentioned in ad read
Tom Haverström
Referenced as co-host of NBA conspiracy podcast mentioned in ad read
Mark Stein
Debated TV theme songs with Zach, defending The White Shadows as superior to Golden Girls
Robert Sarver
Referenced as example of boss who inappropriately tried to be co-worker with team members
Robin Lopez
Anecdote about anger management issues and interaction with team owner during inappropriate conversation
Dave Chappelle
Referenced for example of audience making off-topic references to his comedy material
Quotes
"I need a ride or die. I need someone who is there no matter what. I need someone who is loyal as a coworker, who is ready to get the job done."
Zach•Approx. 1:45:00
"They had to deal with Tom Cruise and Coglin not doing their fucking jobs. They had to take the brunt of all the people trying to get drinks. They had to be patient."
Zach•Approx. 1:50:00
"It just has to fit. It has to make sense and have a tie into what was posted."
Maze•Approx. 45:00
"You're not wrong. You're just an asshole."
Zach•Approx. 35:00
Full Transcript
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Do you want the truth? Do you think you can handle it? Welcome to basketball Illuminati. I'm Tom Haverström. And I'm Amino Assen. With over two decades of experience navigating the shadowy depths of the NBA. We'll peel back the curtain and show you how the hidden cabal really operates. Are you ready to be enlightened? Basketball Illuminati podcast. Join the illumination and keep your third eye open. Got a lot of compliments this morning at the coffee shop on my summit ice hoodie. If you remember from Nathan for you. Did people recognize it? Yeah. Oh nice. I feel like that's more of a dumb Starbucks crowd. You would think you would think, but no, this, this place, both, both baristas and two of the guests. Summon ice. The. Denied. Denied nothing. Right. The Holocaust. Denial. Denial. Anti-anti-Holocaust denial. Anti-denial. Yes. A denier of the denier. Denier. Nope. Deny it. Deny it. I used the term socially redacted on the radio today. He sure did. He sure did. Time line. I was. I felt it. Zach. I was like, Oh man. I want. I want to take it to this place. Do you know why I. Do you know why I sent you the gong. Jeff. No, I don't. I thought it's because the social redacted. No. It was something else. I was like, Oh my god. I was like, Oh my god. Do you remember what. Do you remember what they were calling. Mr. Miyagi and credit kid three. No. Yes. Word. So might put a slippery in front of it. Oh. You. You said it. Without the. Dipper. I said slippery slopes. after but that's why I sent you the card. Wow, I didn't even pick up on that. Yeah, my eyes went wide when it happened. I was so in the middle of making my point. Yeah. I forgot. I stopped listening to what you were saying. Sounds like rewatch Karate Kid 3. We should wait. Next one. What's the next one? Next one I have penciled in passenger 57. Then Lionheart then kisses. Lionheart. You remember Lionheart, man. So you want Karate Kid 3 in there. I say we do Lionheart Karate Kid 3 passenger 57. What? But Black Man's got to take a backseat again. Stop Asian hate. It's a slippery one. To get to that point. When we're choosing between which minority we want to prop up on this podcast. Let's play them both at the same time. Wow. What? Hold on. I can't believe it's taking it a 73 Cinephone. Hold on. Rewatching Tids to try to do a double feature but not back to back. Idea. Okay. Hold on. I got, oh man, I'm cooking here. I am cooking here. I'm just making sure I got the run times for this. I'm cooking. All right. Can we do like dark side of the moon style where we play? There is no 57 backwards. Wait, wait, wait, wait. There's only three minute difference in runtime between PB one and PB two. I knew he was going. I know he's good for Bart, man. Come on. That almost lines up perfectly. And both on mute. We just stack them. So it's tough to stack him, but you know, I think the structural integrity of. If he's stuck, we might order it at IHOP. That's a good joke. It's a good joke. You know what else is a good joke? He's suck my dick. Oh God. Yeah. I'm the only one who thinks so. Well, T's for. That's what the time on further few weeks from that's going to be introduced to that. Right, right in the game for the NBA finals. That's when Zach's going to learn about. That's right. Suck my dick.com. The fourth game of the NBA finals. Yeah. Seventh game time. Time line is really fucked up. It's super fucked up. Yeah. That's what happens when we take a two week gap here. I mean, like I, I realized we were still working on fucking black history. Much shit, man. I was like, what? Are we? That last episode. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the fun one was. My boss's daughter. Yeah. Amin is talking about Ramadan starting. Yeah, that's right. And it dropped. As Ramadan came. That was ending. That's right. Yeah. And, and that was a, then the next week, this week when we're recording, that's when people had a problem with our schedule. Oh, here we go. Over there for Zach complaining about the audience. No, but I'm going to tell you what, Zach told me a couple of new stories that have happened that like, you know what, he's got a big, he's got a point. I'm not wrong. I'm an asshole. Fine. But I'm not wrong. So, Maze, you remember the story of the guy? That's, that's a very Walters sub check. No, Walter, you're not wrong. You're just an asshole. That's Zach Harper right there. I don't know who that is. Think Lebowski, John Goodman, my dad, Walter. So, so Maze, remember the story that Zach told about the guy who left a comment under a series, six, seven radio post? Mm-hmm. Yeah. That's really not into any xenophobe inside joke being dropped without any context or if it applies, if it applies, fine. I'm fine with it. It applies. So fast forward. And I guess Zach and Mark Stein, I got the, I pulled up the exact one. Yeah. I had a little debate. They were debating what has the best theme song in television history. Mark Stein, if you don't know, is a huge fan of the white shadows. This is a show about a white coach that goes to coach in an inner city school basketball, right? But it was like for, for I, I've like, like 78, 79, there's nothing about basketball on TV ever, not like in public culture or whatever. So this was a massive deal. So he loves that show, the white shadow. Zach counters with golden girls, which of course is a tremendous theme song. Right. And you know, like it's a nice, you know, sometimes you take a break from the hard hitting news and all that stuff. Yeah. Zach, what would you guy respond? The same guy might I add from the same guy? Yeah. Oh, I repeat. I repeat. Yeah. Yeah. You dissed my comment about what kind of a deal and then talk two segments about golden girls. I don't think I was that far off with some laughing emojis in there. I said normally, normally I wouldn't engage, but explain the connection. The unserious conversation that lasted two segments is no less mature. I said, wow, you had a whole day to think of something and you landed on mature as the best you could come up with. No response. It's just amazing. He was too busy logged on to his suck my dick.com. I love the people love the show. Make the reference. If it fits, if I'm like, I was going to say Simon and Simon, you want to be Cinefo relevant and get in on this TV theme song debate? You bring up Simon and Simon. You see what Mace did there? You see what Zach? I mean, he made it. Yes, you rift, you rift by making a comment relevant to the conversation. I've been diagrammed. Yes, not be not being your feelings because I was like, yeah, that doesn't apply what you said before. Like it doesn't like it's like, yes. I told Zach, people went to see Chappelle in the in the in the art shows to stand up and he's talking about, yeah, San Francisco, hell of a town. I'm like, Rick, yeah, bitch. Yeah, like there's nothing to do with what he's talking about. And I get it. Like I always think about that Chappelle, him saying that people coming up to the Disney world. Yeah, I'm rich. And he's like, could you please not call me bitch in front of my children? And it's the thing, like I love the people love the show. I love the people connect with it. But if I post a picture of my dog and then you're like, oh, what does that think? Like, what do we do? Like that doesn't apply. That one's a little closer though. What is it? It's not. Ed's not a pet. It was a bit of Mickey Mantle. I mean, you know, you know, he's fucking pissed if Ed isn't even like, I would think referring to any context. It just has to fit. It has to make sense and have a tie into what was posted. And I love that you love the show, but man, that doesn't make like, yeah, it's like, it's like Zach was talking about Las Vegas expansion team and someone said they should name it. What? The Las Vegas cinephiles slash cinephobes. One, so the files like our fucking podcast. You can tell because people listened to ours. Number two, it still exists. Number two done. Cinephiles been done for like almost two years, I think I would know because no one listened. Yeah. If a podcast folds in the woods, does it make a sound? I'm never going to be okay with the way he was addicted to us at Moss Miami. Well, at least he wore that hat. Yep. The hat everyone thinks he wear. Oh, right now, Adnan sitting in the audience of the court. Where in that hat going, what the hell? Safari flaps on him. Don't fucking touch him. I like like the the high. It was at least be funny. It may turn you off and now you're like, well, no, I'm gonna go listen. Okay. Then thought like. No, those two examples, I'm 100 percent supportive of you. The guy who said I enjoy the deep dyes on the script. Breakdowns. I'm not. Or like, no, because the follow up, because the follow up, the next thing. Well, it was like, and yeah, there's some jokes too. Bitch, it's all jokes. Well, did you listen to my boss's daughter, Zach? Oh my God. Did you like what I did with that? Zach, he fucking beat that. I did. Because you gave me a new job. You just needled me the entire time. You know, the funniest thing was it took me like three of them to realize Maze doesn't make it fun of me. I'm like, what the fuck did I do now? Like, oh, oh, it's Zach. Oh, all right. Wait, you thought it was your voice? No, I thought you were making fun of him. Like, what do you mean? Yeah, no, he's just blocking me constantly. Every time we talk about script writing, I'm going to have to point it out. There was a point. There was a point in listening to it. This was maybe four into it. The fourth time it happened, I was like, fuck Maze. Like he's been a bit and then by like the seventh one, I was like, all right, this is funny. Everybody's come back around. It's the desperation in your voice. The fake desperate. Oh, we have to break down the script writing. Oh, you know, I guess there's some jokes too. Fuck off. The comedy podcast. What are we doing? Well, I was going to do the code workers. Yeah, there you go. This idea is just straight up bad. That algorithm is busted. It's among the worst ideas I've ever heard. Top five. Easy. One, two, three, four, five. One, two, three, four, five. One, two, three, four, five. I mean, struck this evening, y'all, but he's got five CT five. Welcome to Cinefob Top Five, AKA CT five. This is the companion podcast to the top 10 in the world TV and film review podcast, Cinefob. What's Cinefob? That's the one where we watch movies. You both looked at the same. You're doing both. My dick dot com. They both were doing other shit. And then the way in unison, you both looked up. We didn't even interact. You were going to let you push through. I thought you both. I'm not talking about the way in. I don't know what the fuck you was saying. You both looked up and Zach's eyebrow arch like fucking Charlie Day in a hospital bed. Cinefob, we watch movies that are poorly rated, rot tomatoes. Try to ask where they're accurately rated or maybe they get a fair shake. If you haven't listened, go listen to an episode, preferably of a movie that you've already seen and familiar with and then listen to the glossary episode. And then you'll get all these inside jokes and you start to notice something. There is a theme that happens. There are certain things that we seize upon and we start to rank things that come from the canon of Cinefob. We rank them as top five. We have characters as guests. We have worse cops. We have best resumes. We have most respectful villains. But this week we're doing top five co-workers. Guys, is your boss a co-worker? No. Oh, good question. I said, I said no. Bosses feels like a different list. I know. Bosses on the other hand, that's a co-worker. Is that it? Oh, that is that we all really listen to. Time line got fucked up. I'm so tired. With that bell, it's going to be on the board soon. Don't worry. Of course it is. Put Rantlers on the board. Yeah. That's what I need the whole experience though. Put the whole thing on. Put the whole thing on. It's a long drop. It's like eight seconds. I don't care. I want it there. Boss as a co-worker is interesting. I've had some jobs where I feel like the boss is a co-worker and had some work very much not. I think what it depends on is is it like your manager or is it like the head of the company? If it's the head of the company, that is not a co-worker. Got you. Got you. So Mr. Magoo cannot be on the list. I'm about to have coffee with the head of the New York Times. Are you? Yeah. Janet Maslin? No, that's. We're going to break down the script writing. Drop. I got some bad news for her about your history with that. Oh, it's going to be tough. That's very exciting. That's not your co-worker though, right? Yeah. No. No. No, no, no. I mean, your co-worker you can shoot the shit with. Right. And some bosses like to think. No. That they are cool enough to have the shit shot, but then Robert, Robert Sarver, then they have to, you know, give you an order or tell you the ultimate of that list. Definitely not a co-worker. No, but he thought like he could shoot the shit. It's fine. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, I like the story. Again, this is slight diversion here, but when they had the story about like him talking about lewd sexual action for the team, I was like, this is not the story. Like this is such a tame down version of what it really was, which was him going from talking about this heart transplant survivor who pioneered the first like backpack heart you could wear until you got the transplant. It was a firefighter. And it was like all about perseverance. It was the best speech he'd ever given the team. And that transition, I swear to God, in real time to who here shaves their balls. Man's game. And then that turned into a straw poll. Like you say you say the balls, Steve, you say your ball like, Graham Hill, you say, Graham, you say your balls. Like, and then he got the LB. LB was like, nope. No, LB was LB said, yes, LB said, yes, man, every week, man. And then it was it was Earl Clark who said, I've been growing them shit since the day I was born. A classic line, a classic line. And then like, so he's going through the room. This is not like one or two just to be the point. He's literally trying to find out, by the way, he also devolved to us that he started shaving his balls and his he found that his wife was a lot more willing to go down on him after he shaved his balls. And then he also had this shit. You ever have this where she puts a peppermint in her mouth and what like, I'm like, your wife that we see every day, dude. We see her all the time. She's a lovely lady. Well, fairly. So he starts going and it happened in slow motion. He's pointing his finger and I'm like, don't go to Robin. Don't go to Robin. Don't go to Robin. Don't go to Robin. And then he sees Robin and I see his eyes go up. It's Robin Lopez. Robin Lopez at that time. Now you see him. He's funny. He messes with the mascot. So at that time Robin had anger issues straight up, dude. And I'm not talking about little anger issues like yelling or whatever. I'm talking about like physically breaking things. So his finger starts going into Robin. How about you? And I look at Robin and the steam is coming out his ears and the fucking mushroom cloud at the top of his hair. And I see that he's sitting in the front, by the way, because he would sit in the front because his legs was long, whatever. And I see Alvin judges. The greatest thing Alvin ever did. He fucking tackles. He dove in front of it like Secret Service. Oh, no, he tackled Robert. Oh, hey, give it up for Robert. I was like, boom, out the room. Wow. Not nobody. Only the that's a co-worker. Yeah, yeah, I'm a gentry. That's a co-worker. Robert Sutter. Boss. Not a co-worker, exactly. I bet Matt Espeyette carries that over. I bet he carries over the over familiarity. Oh, he's worse because he actually can hoops. He actually thinks he's one of the one of the guys. Also, he's littered the entire company with all the Michigan State boys. You have to. Oh, Charlie Bell and Matine Cleese and like and and B.G. Brian Gregg, like everybody there has some sort of Michigan State time. I don't have any bosses on my list. One is debatable, but yeah, let me explain how the list goes to the people. We give everyone our top fives. And then we also include an additional two outside looking ins or O.L.I.s. And we get the order we go in and go, Zach, first I go second and Maze goes third. Zach, what is your first outside looking in or O.L.I. Biggest thing for me with a co-worker, I need you to get your work done. Right. I need to be reliable. I need to make sure you're getting shit done. I don't want to have to like pick up the slack. I also don't really want to talk to you all that much at work. But at the same time, you can dazzle a little bit. You got some charm to you in the moments I do talk. That's great. Maybe even you can do a card trick that'll blow my fucking mind. It's Mr. Dunstan. Nowhere to run. That's right. I swear to God. I swear to God. For just a half second. I thought you meant the right. I said, why did he do card tricks? Private named Dunstan. I mean, they were back to back. Yeah, Mr. Dunstan contractor. Outside. Yeah, yeah. I had questions about that, too. But he but he's working with these people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. That's good. I like that. Yeah. But he got he gets it done and like does some cool card tricks. And I like that. I don't I don't want a lot of card tricks, but every once in a while, break the tension. Yeah, for a bad guy, not a horrible vibe. Right. Yeah. Not a horrible vibe. It seemed very pleasant. Kind of like until you have to be like a lower level. He would have been happy to schmooze his way into getting JCVD out of there. That's what he was looking for is just schmooze. It did not work. Yeah. Mm-mm. Because apparently JCVD went to law school in prison. But he did. But did he did he? Well, that's what the movie said. Most of you are about the law. If it wasn't in Billy's tape of exposition, then I don't know. Hey, man. I hear you getting your law degree, by the way. Congratulations. All right. My first O.L.I. All right, Zach, your description actually is really good. Unfortunately, I don't think my first O.L.I. fits that bill as far as they help me get my work done. This guy actually pretty shitty at getting the work done. But a real fun hang. And also a guy who tried to look out for me, but I had other visions of myself. It's Dennis Chavante observing report. Really thought about it. He's a mercurial man, because he's a supportive co-worker, but then he also submarines the whole operation. But he wanted to he wanted. What's his name, Seth Rogen, to be in on it with him? He's like, well, let's do it. And that's it. Yeah, flipped. And that's what he does. He does invite him to a life of crime. Yeah, be a co-worker over there. What I fully admit, what I text you guys is this best or worst co-workers. That was this is who I was. He was the line. He was like, oh, wait, are we doing best or work? I literally put it in my nose trying to bring into a life of crime. That's a good friend, man. He's a great friend. We're not doing friends. We're doing co-workers. We've got friends. He was supportive. Remember, he was like hyping him up the whole time. Look, Dennis Chavante, he's a dangerous guy. Absolutely. He's an ultimate dangerous guy. He's a supportive person in whatever environment he's in, but he also has a nefarious agenda and he'll turn on you if you're not a part of that. Instantly. Well, he gave him a chance. And then I'll write you a nice postcard later. That was nice of him to think of you. Yeah. So there's courtesy, but he's still. He's still tough. He's tough to pin down courtesy Jackson. Is it Desolation Williams brother? Cousin. Forty three cents. Mace, your first Oli. I got really excited when I thought of this one. The guy Scarface says you're cool to when he's quitting his Royal BC. Yeah, thought about that. But then I reviewed the tape and he's talking to the old lady, freaky old man customer with extremely long nails. Oh, not an employee. What thought it was an old lady. It's an old man. Oh, wow. I reviewed the tape and he's he's got extremely long fingernails. He actually says fuck you to all the employees. Yes. It's just that this gentleman happened to be in the way. So I included it because I love that I thought of it. It is going to get bumped from this list. Okay. By the end of the episode. Got it. I like it. It's not your Ola. It's a placeholder. It's all alive for now. But you'll see why don't don't take your fucking head at me. But then this is down script writing. We're making jokes. I like how Zach feels this violates the rules. The spirit of the laws. Just because he didn't make a pick. He just talked about something he liked. He did. I did a loophole. You're cool. Look, yes, go. Zach, your other Ola. Again, I like I like people who get work done. They're brought in to get a task done. We've got this big project where I'm going to oversee it. And even though it kind of makes them a supervisor type and an executive, they're not the boss. This person works late hours. They're willing to be. They're willing to be a good coworker to whoever they're talking to. They're very good at talking just in general, right? And they got interesting ideas of champagne bottle usage. It's Demi Moore in disclosure. Run that sound back. Because my other Ola, I was going to say someone who gets the job done is very qualified technically is my boss, but we hang out. We do things socially. So I was this is not a Robert Sarver. This is not a Matt Eshbia. This is someone that I do hang out with socially and consider ourselves somewhat equals, especially when my dick is in her mouth. It's Demi Moore. Reagles. Is suck my dick dot com. Hell yeah. Correct me if I'm wrong. Yeah. Isn't she like sabotaging people at the other place she comes from? Before she shows up at the company with Michael Douglas? Debatable. Look, I know what you you think you and your chauvinistic ways that we couldn't get ahead in life without stepping on other people. And the excuse me. Chauvinistic. I'm not a chauvinist. I don't tell her to come down here. That's that's the housekeeper. I have a patriarchal urge. I think we finally figured out what it would be. It is he's a chauvinist. Yeah, that's right. Okay, so you're not answering the question. I'm pretty sure she's screwing people over. I'm just wondering if like at her last place of business, what does that have to do with our current place of business? You don't think she's trying to do the same to Michael Douglas before the whole sexy time situation? She is following what Donald Sutherland wants her to do, but she's still a good coworker in the process. Great coworker. Yeah. They're trying to make sure this billion. Well, it was the 90s. So it's like a four million dollar. Yeah, massive tech money. Yeah. I don't know. I'm not convinced. I think that she can be if she wants something from you. I think if you're in her way, she will absolutely discard you and get you fired. And I don't know if that's a coworker that I'm looking for. So she's not on my list, but I respect it. I get it. I just wanted to see if, you know, maybe there's a little, a little more than meets the eye. Well, it's time for you to make another pick that isn't actually on your list. No, this one's on my list. Because sometimes it's personal. Culture of hostility. Nothing's getting in. None of your lists count. I'm not writing it in the spreadsheet. Not doing it. If the guy at Scarface says you're cool too, isn't on the list, nothing's good again. I just, you talked about him and then you're like, he's not really in my pick, but we'll see later. Well, he's not an employee, but I wanted to mention him. Yeah. Sometimes you need a coworker to do all the heavy lifting. You want a guy who's willing to, you know, risk his back to set up sensors, perhaps, or maybe carry things or maybe, you know, knock down walls or barriers in your way. You want somebody who's not going to ask too many questions. In fact, he might not be capable of really saying more than one word. And he looks amazing in a hat and trench coat. It's Bane. For a second there, I thought you were going with thing. I thought you were going with Gertie. Be respectful. Also, it will talk to me. Gertie didn't make my list, not a chord. I mean, well, we had this argument. No, he was a coworker. He worked with him on the truck. I went through the Friends episode and jotted down all the times we said coworkers and Gertie was on that list. Busy routines can make it hard to focus on your health goals, but MedExpress offers a simple way to explore weight management treatment online. Complete our short eligibility consultation with no need for face-to-face appointments or travel. If eligible, treatment is delivered discreetly with UK registered clinicians offering support along the way. Visit medexpress.co.uk slash podcast to get started today. Zach, we're to the top five now. What do you got, number five? Okay. I like a coworker who is not trying to entertain me, but does entertain me, right? Just a naturally funny person, unintentional comedy, but still like hard worker gets the shit done. And I can kind of observe and like, all right, that's a funny person. I like being around her. She's like, she's just our shifts line up. Now, I never worked in food service, but had I, a lot of you, Bac, would have absolutely been someone I wanted to work with. Dude, I thought about it and I was like, no, cause she like, I don't want someone who's going to stress me out. But I don't, but I don't, but I don't get stressed by that. Like that doesn't permeate me. Like I, like I can just observe that and go like, that's fucking hilarious. If you like put the thing in the wrong place, like just buy a little bit off you, you don't mind getting chewed out. No, cause I don't take it seriously. Like I had, I had this coworker at Oakley. You never worked in food service, huh? No, never. I had this, I had this coworker at Oakley. Her name was Alicia and she was hilarious in that way. Like she was just always super funny, stressed out, pissed off or whatever, but in a way that like, even if she like threw something at, like not physically, but like through a comment or something mean at me, it was in a funny way. Yeah. Alicia, you buck. I defend. That's a really good pick. Yeah. I think I identify, I think she's more my spirit animal and somebody I want to work with. That's why I want to work with her. Yeah. It's like, wow, look, I mean, I wish I could do it like her. Yeah. I think the best thing about her is the, the immediate switch flip. Yeah. That's super entertaining too. Watching someone in her job. Absolutely. As soon as she's off the court, as soon as she's backstage, she's like letting it fly. I did, I did data waitress who like would do that, you know, when the, they ordered dessert, like, oh, maybe she's like, this girl would do this to people all the time in a very so cast away. It was so fucking funny. Oh my God. That's a really good pick. I like that one. I thought about everyone and waiting. I'm like, I don't want to work with any of these people. She's the only one I want to work with. We're about a foist. No, he doesn't do his job. He just sits there and gives life advice. Whoa. You don't think he's watching dishes? How is that not a good coworker? Because I've heard like the him of like, or you could watch the fucking dishes. Just the two of them together, you know, they're really balancing out that energy. Yeah. Yeah. All right. My number five, I wanted a coworker who was competent, right? Accomplished, right? Not, not like, no, no, if it's a lot of you, but you know, you're waitress, right? Like, I want someone who's like actually worked in a chair. Like actually worked and achieved and moved up in the hierarchy of things that are good job at the same time. Good dude. Great dude. Involves me in family events. Even, even if I'm in an alternate reality where he doesn't even remember who I am. It's Matusak from time cop. Outside looking in the thing that kept him off our list is or outside, outside looking at the thing that kept him off my list is like, man, I just don't want to bang. I don't want to bang his wife. Yeah. Like it's just too much of like trying to get me to come over. You know what? Worst case scenario, you guys get some good goulash. I think he's a great, I think he's a good coworker. Damn. He's a good example of supervisor, not boss. Yes. And like very pleasant to be around. Good joke. He's the type of supervisor that would cover for you. For sure. And like, he has definitely gotten himself in some hairy situations and Matusak has smoothed it over with the paperwork and made sure the higher ups didn't know what was going on. Now you know who I don't want to work with? The lab tech who keeps jerking off to the simulator. That guy, no way. You've got that department covered. You don't need to go to the robot simulator. Yeah, that's way better. Or the NBA finals. That was research. I was doing research. My number five, the ultimate caboose, the guy you want to hold in the tail of an anaconda. It's Mateo. Oh, God. Outside, outside. I didn't even think of him. I struggled. I had the wrong person from that movie. Because I didn't know if Mateo was like resentful of his job. Pretty stressed. It's a stressful environment. And also Paul Serone is a unhinged lunatic. So yeah, I would say that he's, he's going through it. That doesn't mean that he's not doing his job, right? Which is driving the boat and leading them driver to Paul Serone. Now I, I will, I will consult perplexity occasionally to see if perplexity has any thoughts on what's going on. And I got into a full on argument with perplexity about what happens in anaconda over this. What the fuck is perplexity? What are you talking about? It's an AI. Oh, look, look who's come to the dark side. Oh, no, but it, it, it makes me crazy because much like a mean, it's stuck to a point and refused to concede. And it told me that, that they were not coworkers that that Mateo and Paul Serone had no start to a point and refused to concede. Well, I was right. And I would say like, well, what about the photograph? You like that? That is interesting that that does tie it in as a reveal that they were working together, but I'm going to stick to my story. Okay. It said, it said, it said, it's my story. I hate this. Yeah. I know you do. I hate this. Stop using chat GPT. Stop using perplexity. I've never even heard of folks stop using that stuff. Zach, your number five, four, four X me number four. As I've mentioned many times here, work ethic, hard work, big things for me in a coworker. I like people to just get the job done. They're focused on getting the job done. No matter what the job is, I like ambition. I like people who are, you know, not necessarily like trying to weasel their way up, but they're just trying to work hard to get higher in the work, you know, the workplace, the workforce. I like all that stuff. That stuff is that matters to me. Also got a cool way of talking. I'm into that too. And I need someone who has a desperation where no matter what they need their fucking job, man, it's Lewis Pinnock. Wow. Never. What? I never want to work with that guy. Racist. He didn't seem great at home. He seemed great at the job though. What was his actual job that he wanted the form and job? I think he worked in like a tomato packing plant. It was a chocolate factory. Was it? Yeah. Cause remember, don't you remember this? The B roll. The B roll. Oh, that's right. Chocolate being coated in white. The other way around. It was like white chocolate being coated in black attention to detail. That is attention to detail and autumn years in a factory. All that time I put in and I'm the fucking delivery boy. It wasn't. Oh man. They made him a fucking delivery boy. He fucked that up though. We got to do. Well, not his fault. He did. Kind of fucked it up. Kind of his way. He didn't get good direction. And you know what the fucking made at the mansion? She's the one that fucked it up. Not a good coworker. Not a good coworker. That made. Nope. She's not really a coworker. I both work for Harry Belafonte. Yeah, but I will. The business. I wouldn't say Anthony Edwards and I are coworkers. Yeah. Do you work for? I work for the NBA. Adam Silver. That's the boss for both of you. NBA TV. He could take me off if he wanted to. I guess so. Yeah. Okay. I think you should say your coworkers. Me and Adam Silver. You and aunt. You and aunt on the same field. For sure. Different jobs. Different jobs. Same field. Different day. Different day. A little bit. Not quite. Not quite as well. It depends on taxes. I don't know what the taxes are. We don't know any of Louis Pinox coworkers. We talk about he's the guy he's talking to in the beginning of the movie. Well, Lionel is a supervisor. No, no, no, no, no. No, but isn't he like he's walking out of the building? He's like that's like three seconds with some. I'm saying we don't like know them seem to seem to have a good rapport. They weren't wrong. You're saying that you're saying that in the sense that we don't know. We just don't really know what he's like as a co-worker as a co-worker. You can't always a hard worker. I know he's I know he's a hard worker and always got ambition. I want more. That's all I'm really getting at. I want more. I want to see. I want the deleted scenes. I want to be a prequel. Yeah. Sequel be tough. Hmm. No. Stranger things. Yeah. Like my man from dead man on campus. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Caramel co-worker, by the way. Yeah. Bad friend. Let go worker. Bad. No, you don't even bad a dangerous night. Yeah. Two dangerous wild card. Dangerous days as well. It's dangerous. Period. I mean your number four. My number four. Again. Emphasis on being good at their job. Again. Emphasis on would love to hang out after hours. Again. Emphasis on. Oh, she's gorgeous. It's Jennifer Lopez and money trained. I thought you were going to say Mike from the chair company. I did too. That's a great co-worker. I thought I'll allow it. J. Lo from money train. Are they co-workers? Yeah. I don't remember that. They're all cops. They're all, they're cops. Yeah. Transit police. Transit cops. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I thought about Wesley or Woody for that. I didn't think of J. Lo, but I was like, nah, maybe it may be Wesley. The first person I thought it was J. Lo, what are you talking about? You're not going J. Lo from Anaconda. I thought of her as a boxer in that movie. Her and Anaconda, not a great co-worker. Why not? How is that any different from money train? What do you talk about? She's got a lot of range. She was more about the job in, in money train. Just like, Hey, she's new here. She's trying to get her, you know, her bearings and everything. Like she was, she was a good co-worker money train. We should rewatch that. Yeah. I don't remember it. So I'm, I'm open. Oh, it's good. My number four came up in the best friends episode. Didn't make anybody's list. Cause I think we decided that this guy is a co-worker Eugene Levy as the rat man and bringing down the house him and Steve Martin attached to the hip. They'd be closing deals. They're both lawyers, tax lawyers. Are they co-workers or they just in the same? Yeah. No, they're the same firm. I think that, that counts a little bit more than me and aunt. A little bit more. They, you know, they, they don't, I don't know how many cases they work on together, but they are familiar with each other's cases. And this dude is really encouraging and supportive to Steve Martin. Like, yo, you got to get back out there. You got to get in the game. Let's go out after work. Let's get some drinks. Let's get some dinner. He's also a complete pussy fiend, you know? And so there's that. He doesn't really discriminate about what types of people he's after. You are describing a lot of my next pick. I mean, no. Oh, Oh, Oh, the good. Yeah. You just said about her. Yeah. Roll it along for me as well. Number three. I'm bringing the whole team. I got my guy. No, I don't want the whole team. I don't want the whole team. Absolutely. That's your last man. Um, Catherine, on great hang at work. Great hang outside of work. Very funny, very creative. And how she's going to get like, I would watch her sell cars all day. How are you going to get to me? Oh, God. Yeah. I love about the goods. You can't walk. It's too far. Get too far. Work hard, play hard. Okay. Like they, they bring the same energy to the dealership as they do to the karaoke bar. Incredible team building and culture. Absolutely. They're welcoming, but also they protect their own. They take a notoriously despised profession of being a used car salesman. They make it fun. They do. Absolutely. And also they're, they'll go anywhere. They'll sell cars anywhere, man. It's a road team. Yeah. Love me some Catherine on. She's ended up on my list more than just about anybody. That's why she's a Hall of Famer. Yeah. Sorry. My number three, you know what? I feel bad. I really do feel bad earlier in my top five. I, when I was praising Matuzak, I feel like I took a swipe at, you know, people work in the service, food service industry. Yeah. That's not right. You know, that's not right at all. The people's past lead them to where they go. And so to make amends, I would like to nominate as my number three, Daisy Duke from Dukes of Hazard. It works hard. She takes no guff from the customers. I don't know that she worked hard. This is developing. So what's the fuck Matuzak's wife? And then Shavante, I guess, take it or leave it, but. Good guy. Everyone else has a good guy. Similar energy so far. Yeah. See how the list goes from here. I hated that. Zach, your number two. I need a ride or die. I need someone who's there no matter what. I need someone who is loyal as a coworker, who is ready to get the job done. And I need someone who I know I don't have to worry about if we're in the sun. Like they forgot their sunglasses. They're okay because he's squinting. It's when spaghetti. That was one of those. Someone's going to take care of this. I don't know. He is an all timer. I can't believe you fought me on whether or not he's a Hall of Famer fucking insane. Did he make it? No. No one's making it from now on. You won't remember this the next time we do a Hall of Fame. You just asked. You just asked if he made it. Squints. Also squints and babs where your O Li's for all fame. That's not. Make it. Can't wait for Terry Silver to be number one. That's not a coworker. That is right there. You're great. I see. You have a posted pad. I use post. Everyday. I got a posted pad. I read down the segments of the radio show. Everyday. There's only four. Why do you want to post it? Because I got the chalkboard. I got posted. What I like doing. I like physically crossing things off. Once they're done. It is something I really enjoy. So segment done. Boom. I got three things crossed off. Why don't you write in a notebook? Wait. Why does it have to be posted? Because a notebook is too much. I can just. Boom. That's for the show. You feel really accomplished. In the trash can. You're not keeping the rundown every time. No. I already have to keep my fucking xenophobic notes now all the time. Like now I got to. Come on. It's the best way to do it. All right. I'll take your word for it. My number two. This one is probably the loosest definition of coworker. Uh oh. Like I feel like. Oh definition. Yeah. I really stretch to make this a coworker relationship. But they do work in the same field for the most part. And they work together. Although not in this movie. Or no they do work together in this movie. I'll take that back. Yeah. They work together. And I often think to myself. If he hadn't died. Would he had saved Rocky from dying. They are coworkers for sure. If he had died. Would you have saved Rocky from dying. Yeah. Yeah. Rocky doesn't die in Rocky for. What he does. Apollo. No, no. If Apollo doesn't die. Then he doesn't fight. So like remember there was a version of the script for. Apollo's in a wheelchair. As opposed to dead. Oh you're saying. Okay. You're saying if he's in a wheelchair. Rocky doesn't die. Yeah. I think so. Yeah. Because like he. Look, he's the guy that fucking taught Rocky everything. Because Rocky would be. Well. Everything Rocky could possibly retain at once. Rocky would have been taken care of Apollo. He wouldn't have time to like. Fight him or whatever. Yeah. And he wouldn't have done it. He would have like. He would have probably like leave it alone. He wouldn't have been like, he wouldn't have let him do it. Yeah. It's an interesting sliding door. Listen to Apollo. But instead Rocky dies and then we get Rocky. Yeah, I think. Yeah, I think. They I mean they've run the gamut right. They've been they've been rivals. Yeah. They've been friends. In Rocky for he's in his corner. So they're working together. Okay. Here's one for you. If you don't like the whole Rocky died in Rocky for Rocky would have never gone broke. If Apollo was alive. That's true as well. He wouldn't. I don't know anybody could have stopped Paulie. No. In a way the power of attorney. 81. Apollo could. Apollo's on his ass. Apollo's on his ass. Yeah, he would have never. Hold on. The moment Apollo died. All of a sudden. What happens? Paulie has all free reign. It's not like it. Okay. All right. I'm with the main on this. I do think Paulie is more powerful. You think Paulie's inevitable. Yeah. Paulie is his fucking. He's he's he's nonstop. The train movie story. My number two. It's what they do for a living. They take boys. Come on. Again, another one. You ever had a better group of coworkers? What are you going to pick? Yes. All of them. Literally every job I've ever had. I've had a better worker. Better. If you have to pick one, who would it be? Come on. It's got to be how else are you going to? Who can replace the civil engineering specialist and helicopter pilot dog? That's a pretty good co-worker. Two jobs, baby. If you're doing civil engineering training and schooling. What's civil engineering? What does that even mean? Well, you know, it's engineering that's civil. Do you remember when they it's not it's not rude? Remember when they blew up the street and the truck fell through? It's fucked up. That wasn't the civil engineering specialist fault. I didn't get to listen. In case you forgot, Michael Ely is the explosive specialist. Chris Brown is the daredevil escape artist. He's expendable. That's not a job. He's the daredevil escape artist. You repeated it. That doesn't make sense. I don't know. He's the daredevil escape artist. You repeated it. That doesn't mean it's a job. Well, what if I told you that Paul Walker is both the marksman and the muscle? Is that your attention? He's not the muscle. He can't be the muscle. Well, T.I. is the slick planner with connections. Okay. And what about Idris Elba? Well, he's the boss, but he's the tactician, strategist and leader. Got it. And none of this happens in Kosie's crew without him. Is there a difference between a tactician and a strategist? Yeah. What are the two different words? Tactical redundancy. The other one does tactics. There is the source next to each other. Strategic. You know, but yeah, it's obviously, it's obviously Hayden Christensen. I have to pick one, but I'm taking all of them because they're a team. They work together. Zach, you're number one. I'm also taking a team. Yeah. This is, look, I could admit in my jobs over the years, I'm not always at my best. I'm not always doing my best. I'm not always accomplishing what needs to be accomplished. And so to have episodes. Yep. I'm fucking nominating the shit that should be in there. I'm getting messages left and right that actually apply to what's happening. All those messages. I like the ones that agree with me on these that are not replying to something that's like a picture of a fucking rock. I like all the ones that agree with me. Did you post an Instagram story that says I agree with me? Yeah, I do that. I do that all the time. If I link to something that I done, I say that I agree with me. And so to have a group of coworkers that are willing to just kind of like eat shit in that moment as you're not your best and you're, you're maybe trying to catch up, but not really. I don't think there are better coworkers than all of the waitresses in cocktail. Whoa. Because they had, they had to deal with Tom Cruise and Coglin not doing their fucking jobs. They had to take the brunt of all the people trying to get drinks. They had to be patient. This is a very bar rescue influence. Pick doesn't matter. It's my pick. You're thinking about, you're thinking about like this. None of these people have drinks. Management material. Incredible coworkers. They were joking with him. They were never like on his, like, hey, man, fuck you. Like it's only at the TGF Fridays, right? Correct. Yeah. After that, they don't really have a cell block. I don't know what the fuck's going on. There's no, there's no waitresses at cell block. There's no drinks being served. The Jamaican beach bar, no cocktail waitresses. No, no, you have to sit out. You have to sit up to the bar. What about the new spot? That was more of a restaurant. So yeah, there were, they were waitresses. Yeah. We didn't really get to spend any time with them. Yeah. And I'm talking about the Fridays began in the movie. One of them, one of them doesn't tell Tom Cruise that a Cuba Libre is a rum and coke. Yeah. They're having fun and then they enjoy the dancing. Yeah. Absolutely. They are supporting me in my dancing. They're supporting me and not doing my job. Like, they're great coworkers. Number one. Yeah. Absolutely. First one I wrote down. I thought for sure Ed would be number one because he was a kind of. No, we established that last episode. Doosan Ed coworkers. No, they're coworkers, but I don't think like he, he didn't, he kind of just did his own thing. Right. Like baseball, you're really just doing your own thing in a way. So he's got a lot of little individual performances disguised as a team. The clubhouse culture is important. Yeah. Clubhouse culture is important, but he also got, um, he got kidnapped and no one seemed to care. Right. So while I think he's a great individual talent, and I think he's a good friend, he didn't really seem to be like, Oh, no, Ed's gone. They're like, all right, next game. Yeah. Next man up. Yeah. Next man up. Yeah. All right. So this is another one. It's like, we said, if you're contracted your coworkers, right? Yeah. Like Mr. Denson. Well, in that case, yeah, man, like you look, we all work together, whatever. How can I not? What else is he going? It's your number one and he walks away. Couldn't wait for the natural break in a second. I'm in a good coworker. No, you're not. This is my voice. This is my voice. You left your coworker, I mean, hanging here. You've crushed his confidence right at the bigger deal. Right as I was going to reveal that you guys are not anymore. Not anymore. Not anymore. Got up to go take a piss on my pig. So instead I'm going to go with swordfish. The chick who had to blow Stanley Jopsson is technically they both work for Travolta and you can find their company website at his suck my dick.com. Great coworker. Great coworker. Blue Stanley Jopsson. Yeah. That's what he says. That's what I said. That is what he said. How long is this? How long is this? How long is this? How long is this? How long is this? How long is this? How long is this? the silence is Zach yells while he pisses in the other room and if you're not watching on YouTube go to YouTube and Watch Zach walk. Oh, now he's going down the hallway He showed me his hands show me your hands I Want you I want you to sit the fuck down for my pick because I'm proud of my pig this really nice lyre soap acorn spice Oh I can't remember what what the name of the shit is but it's like yo I've never thought I'd pay extra for a hand soap, but I have now because it's fucking miss this mrs Myers the one thing I don't like not a foaming soap You need it to be found. Oh, that's the foaming mine isn't my my Is that no man, we've been on this we've been on this. No, that's not just anything Yeah, this might have predated xenophobic to be honest. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, it's like if you're in a spot in the in Public in private where the soap foams at like before you even touch it man. That is elite hand soap. Yeah Okay, my number one It's a small organization I love the pic I Don't want you to feel unsupported. I love the pic I think you were lying about it would have been us, but now it's Yeah We did a whole foaming soap it I'm starting mine now actually is what I was being a supportive co-worker Which is what I'm always on your own time My own time yeah taking turns here with like For him to ask what he's like putting himself out there and you need support. Yeah, you know you weren't there for him At least it's not a fucking hand massage. Oh It's charging it's charging right now My number one it's a it's a small organization Okay, but this this co-worker is extremely reliable High-impact collaborator always on time highly versatile can work anywhere Doesn't really need a lot of notice Can show up very quickly. I don't know where Doesn't need to make a lot of sense Okay Don't do the possibility under the stream line execution Particularly strong at prop manipulation and chain reaction facilitation. It's the wind from final destination That's not where I thought you were going yeah, you got worried I thought you're going on moose. Oh Not even close Both did some pretty heinous things. Thank you very much highly versatile could work anywhere. You're like, yeah That's where I thought you were going But the wind in final destination Co-worker. Yeah, that's co-worker. What does it do? It lets us know the death guy here It lets us know the death here it moves things into place It's in a place Listen take it easy. It's not a means pick I heard the whole thing I was hype man The thing about the wind might not be a good co-worker because Started tipping them off like hey what death is coming You know, you know what? Unless death likes that. Yes, like yeah, let him know I'm a I don't think so. I think death is like a stand-up comedian and the wind is like in the crowd like oh Oh, this is a good one guys. Oh here he goes Oh, hey, I know this one. He's he's gonna he's gonna kill somebody now like oh, yeah I like it to be a surprise you guys don't like the fact that we're inside a house a Closed environment and a gust of wind can come out of nowhere to shut a door and start a computer fire Yeah Does that new final destination qualify bloodlines? I don't think it does And not everything can be bloodlines wasn't there a fucking Final destination bloodlines is 92 May's recap the top fives for us Zach picked a lot of you buck from waiting Louis pinock from white man's burden Catherine Han as babs from the good squint spaghetti and the waitresses at TGI Fridays in cocktail. I mean had Matoo Zach from time cop J Lo from money train Daisy Duke From the Duke's a hazard Carl Weathers is Apollo Creed and Rocky for and the chick who blew Stanley Jobson in swordfish I had Matoo from anaconda Howie Rotman from bring it down the house Babs jibby and Brent gauge from the goods the takers gents and The wind from final destination So that the person from half baked is your first Oli. Oh Well, that's because I mean didn't pick so then I will adjust and put the dog and the horse from the phantom As my co-workers bumping Scarface off the list. I was I was doing it out of respect Got it. I wanted I didn't want to put it too low for me He's not gonna put the the dog. I didn't want to fuck the horse the horse. Oh, I didn't make his list Yeah, the horse the horse was I'm like it was originally in the top five and then just kept getting pushed out The wolf or whatever the fuck his name is never never Terrible co-workers there their co-workers, but are they co-workers of the phantom? They're his subordinates. No, they work for the phantom They work for him right, okay? When the horse catches up to the fucking plane and catches them. I'm like, yo, that's a great co-worker, but you're right That is a that is a subordinate. Yeah, okay We should probably do no we should probably do the outside outside looking in the cutting room floor Alright, so I just told you I had the horse No, this only happens on the patreon Wow, how do I get access to that? 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