A Ho-Hum Ending to the Mexico Trip (Southern Charm Full Recap)
43 min
•Mar 9, 20263 months agoSummary
The BravBros hosts recap Southern Charm's penultimate Mexico trip episode, analyzing Craig's continued volatile behavior, his deflection tactics using therapy language, and the group's exhaustion-driven decision to avoid confrontation. The episode features a healing retreat with sweat lodge and massage activities that provide minimal drama and character development.
Insights
- Reality TV cast members develop learned helplessness around repeat offenders—group chose avoidance over accountability despite having built-in narrative opportunities
- Weaponization of mental health language: Craig uses therapy concepts (perfectionism, imperfection, addiction) as deflection tools rather than genuine accountability mechanisms
- Viewer fatigue with unresolved conflict cycles may signal franchise sustainability issues if cast members continue enabling rather than addressing problematic behavior
- New cast additions (Sally, Charlie, Vanita) are driving narrative momentum more effectively than legacy cast members showing disengagement
- Physical exhaustion from multi-day alcohol consumption directly impacts cast ability to engage in conflict resolution and emotional processing
Trends
Bravo franchise cast members using therapeutic language to avoid accountability rather than enable genuine growthReality TV sustainability threatened when legacy cast members show visible disengagement and resentment toward production demandsAudience polarization around problematic cast members—devoted fan bases rationalize behavior regardless of objective evidenceNew cast member integration as narrative refresh strategy when legacy cast dynamics become repetitive and exhaustingHealing/wellness retreat segments as filler content when primary conflict narratives stall or become unproductiveReality TV cast member business ventures insulated from on-screen behavioral consequences due to devoted fan basesRomantic subplot abandonment as consequence of behavioral red flags—younger cast members setting boundaries older cast normalized ignoringGroup dynamics shifting toward selective engagement—cast members strategically avoiding specific individuals to preserve trip experience
Topics
Reality TV cast member accountability and conflict resolutionMental health language weaponization in interpersonal conflictBravo franchise narrative fatigue and cast member disengagementHealing retreats and wellness activities as reality TV contentNew cast member integration and narrative momentumRomantic relationship boundaries in reality TV contextGroup dynamics and selective social engagement strategiesAlcohol consumption impact on emotional processingFranchise sustainability without legacy cast membersFan base polarization and parasocial relationship dynamicsTherapy and recovery language misuse in conflictReality TV production demands versus cast member wellbeingGaslighting and deflection tactics in group settingsRepeat behavioral patterns and viewer fatigue
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People
Craig
Southern Charm cast member whose volatile behavior, deflection tactics, and disengagement from show are primary episo...
Sally
Southern Charm cast member who was verbally confronted by Craig; demonstrates compartmentalization and emotional resi...
Charlie
New Southern Charm cast member dating Craig; establishes firm boundaries after witnessing his behavior; praised for s...
Austin
Southern Charm cast member with long-standing toxic dynamic with Craig; appears happier when avoiding Craig-related c...
Whitney
Southern Charm cast member attempting to mediate Craig conflict; realizes Craig lacks perspective or accountability
Shep
Southern Charm cast member strategically avoiding Craig to prevent escalation
Vanita
Southern Charm cast member credited with driving narrative momentum forward this season
Steel Russell
BravBros podcast co-host providing episode analysis and commentary
Quotes
"I'm perfectly imperfect. Hey, man, you screamed at a woman two inches from her face last night. Like, can we just chalk it up to like bad night?"
BravBros host analyzing Craig's deflection•Mid-episode
"They are pampering booze the whole time that they're there. So they are genuinely on like, they three of a vendor for the most part for the entire group."
BravBros host•Early analysis
"I just, how do we handle this? Just don't fucking talk to him anymore. Just leave him alone on an island and then maybe he'll come back and start being nice to people."
BravBros host summarizing group strategy•Mid-episode
"Craig goes, all of us an apology, but I want him to come to that on his own. One, that's never going to happen."
BravBros host on Charlie's statement•Late episode
"It feels like this is an irritant for him. Like, I don't want to fucking do this. I don't want to be here. Then don't."
BravBros host on Craig's show engagement•Late episode
Full Transcript
Well, in the words of Whitney from Salt Lake, let's do some healing. Yeah, I mean, it felt kind of weird for this to be the pen-ultimate episode of the season to do basically nothing and not really have a whole lot of fallout, but hey, we gotta get through the season and it's gonna be okay. As here's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos, it will be 8 o'clock. And so that'll make it a f- I don't need this spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm Karma and yes, I am a bitch. Braav Bros. Everybody, welcome back to another episode of Braav's Fit Podcast from the Bros for everybody, for whoever wants to listen. I'm your co-host, Steel Russell joined as always by our favorite sound bath maguets. What's up, dude? Yeah, this was, uh, this was like the extreme version of sound baths. This was taking it to the next level. This actually peaked my interest a little bit. We get to have a lively discussion about whether you would like to go get a massage or sit in apparently the hottest sauna in the world. Um, but aside from that, this episode didn't really play out how I thought it was going to. Now, I expected a lot different, obviously, you know, we were waiting for the fallout from the Craig crash out from dinner the night before. I think what you're seeing. And I think it's a reason that this season did not get hung up on it. Everyone's so used to this part of Craig. Yeah. That instead of addressing it the next day, I feel like we got to figure this out. I think everyone's like, I'm not fucking dealing with him today. Can we just go about our day and not do this? Yeah, it's funny. It's one of those times where you would imagine it's such an easy thing to do, especially on a show like this. Like, okay, Craig just handed this, uh, this whole situation on a silver platter. Let's talk about it all next day. And we just have built in storyline after built in storyline. And we don't really have to do a whole lot of work. We don't have to do a whole lot. They're actually exhausted from all of this. And that's the other funny thing that goes into this. They are pampering booze the whole time that they're there. So they are genuinely on like, they three of a vendor for the most part for the entire group. And they do not know what to do. And they do not have the energy to talk about what Craig was doing the night before. Most of them are probably just like, I, I want to go home. Let me just find find a more early flight to get the fuck out of here because I just can't handle this anymore. I've done that move. Definitely done that move. Yeah, change the flight. Move the flight up. Get the fuck out of the odds. Yeah. I think it's a combination of that. I think one there. They're done with this version of Craig. I just don't think they have the time and energy for it. And on top of that, they physically do not have the energy because they've been crushing booze for three days. So somewhere in the middle there, but the episode starts where it ended. And it doesn't get better. It gets worse because Sally's crying now. And Craig goes to his bag of things that he always says to try to deflect and to try to gaslight. And that's, you're dead. They'll get punched back and we already know what the issue is. He says three things pretty much when he's backed up against a wall. Beget punched back. I'm imperfect. And then he'll use addiction or alcoholism to try to really get out of a tough situation. So that's the main plan we've seen. Yeah. And like to a certain extent, obviously, you know, it's not like we're going to sit here and condone any of his behavior. But it is kind of funny to watch them all kind of fall out where, yeah, I mean, you have people like Austin and Shep who are, you know, in very different ways trying to stay away from it to try to not provoke Craig, because they don't want to deal with this. There are people in the group who are actively trying to provoke Craig in that reaction. And then they're like, what are we supposed to do? Who saw this coming? It's like, come on. If you're going to poke them like, again, we're not talking about his behavior and saying it's a great thing. It's not in this instance either. This is that no, no, he was not hooked, prodded or nudged. He just fucking lost his mind. Yeah, he lost his mind and who knows why he lost his mind? Who knows if we can even do a good job in the reading into like his behaviors. I don't think we can because I don't want to understand it. And I don't want to go down it. It's a lonely dark road. But yeah, I mean, it's just really funny to watch them because they're like, I just, how do we handle this? Just don't fucking talk to him anymore. Just leave him alone on an island and then maybe he'll come back and start being nice to people. When he realizes that he has to do his job at the end of the day, instead you poke and prod the guy a lot and you know what kind of reaction you're going to get. And then when it happens, you're like, who could have seen this coming? All of us. Everybody sitting at home. Well, yeah, but again, that's not applicable to this instance. I mean, if you want to add up a time after time. So it's almost like I'm not, I'm not excusing him blowing up, but like you can't be surprised when he blows up. I'm not, I will not cosine that the shit that he pulled in that band's fucking said that was insane. I'm not talking about just the van. But then you said the build up, you can see how he got there. Like, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. And that's not, again, I started it by saying I'm not excusing the behavior. But you can't look surprised when Craig does this for the 50th time in like a two-year span, even though he says, Oh, yeah, it was my first bad night and two years. Like, no, no, sure, that was wild when he said that. And his just it's pretty, it's the same thing you know what it is. It's Kyle saying to Amanda on summer house. Yes, the last two weekends are the drunkest I've gotten in like a year. Okay, I'm sure, but I think whatever you say, that's exactly it. That's a great point. And honestly, watching him spin this and like deflect and duck, deflect and dodge just to himself is alarming to me. Like the way that he's able to talk himself down that he's not being an asshole was genuinely concerning. Like we'll talk about that later on. But actually, you know what? We're just going to jump around since not much happened this whole episode. Yeah, because it was a 42-minute episode and like 28 of those minutes were them sitting in a sauna or like not talking to each other. That's just where we are at this point in the trip. They don't have anything left. They've got nothing left in the chamber. They are sitting in a sauna and we have to talk about that for about, you know, more than half of this episode. So let's just let's hop around. Let's talk about what I thought. So watching him try to explain it away or just try to all he does is soften the blow. He's talking to himself in the confessional pretty much. I mean, obviously he's talking to a producer. But it to me feels like he has used what he's learned in therapy used what little he has learned about recovery and the mental health game and the all encompassing because you know they're all on it the same umbrella. So to speak, nobody was doing actually. When she went to go knock on his door, he was probably just sitting like Randy Marsh looking at his phone on chat GPT. Like tell me that I'm a good person. Tell me that that blow up last night was warranted. Yes, it was Craigy Poo. It was definitely warranted. Wow. I'm so surprised. You're so strong that you held out for that long. I know I am chat GPT. Like he probably was not GPT Charlie do. Oh, yeah, for sure. Charlie tell me again. I'm not in the wrong. Am I? No, you're great. If she put his ear up to that door, he would have heard. They're all just jealous of you, Craig, because you're so successful and nice to everybody. It's not your fault that you have meltdowns. I love you, Craig. They don't know what it's like to go through a breakup. No one goes through breakup. The way you go through breakup's Craig. That was the worst breakup in the history of all breakups. And it was on TV, Craig. Come here. Hold me. Gosh, you're so strong. Tell me again how strong I am, Charlie. Show me that video of you working out again. I put a new edit on it this time. I hope you like it. Sad thing is guys, we could do this for another 30 minutes. And we would be completely content. But anyway, back to my point, it feels to me like he's taken what he's learned in therapy and everywhere else in the mental health world. And uses it to not only enable himself, but like weaponizes it in a way to like point it back at other people. It's like, whoa, whoa, you can't take this healing shit and flip it to attack. When he says later, too Whitney and he says these lines all the time. I'm perfectly imperfect. Hey, man, you screamed at a woman two inches from her face last night. Like, can we just chalk it up to like bad night? Hey, I'm sorry. Not I'm perfectly imperfect. I did not see any of this coming. I did to a certain extent think that there would be a lot of cope coming from Craig. But I didn't see him going that far. And I also didn't really see the majority of the group just being like, you know what? Yeah, we're not going to talk to Craig today. We know what he's going to be doing today, but somehow he made it even worse. And I just don't understand it. And obviously, you know, the majority of the group except for him and Whitney are going off to go. Well, I guess Whitney was where were they in the morning? I don't remember. They were somewhere in the morning. Yeah, Whitney was on the ship. Yeah, he was sitting down to talk about a new show and he needed a finance here. No, so yeah, they were ship ship went fishing. That's what happened. So I'm milling around going to the pool or whatever. Craig waits for everybody to leave the suite. Finally comes out. You would think he even looked hung over and he doesn't even look hung over. Like he doesn't look like he's regretting any bad decisions with the guy before. Right. Yes, that's because he looks a little, you know, blah. But I agree. There's no. You know that feeling. And you know the face that comes with it when you wake up. I thought he was going to do that when he was in his room by himself. Like I assume in pure darkness. I assumed he was going through it and trying to figure out a way to like show face to the rest of the group. But no, he pops back out. And I'm like, this guy doesn't even think about it. Maybe he doesn't remember it. Maybe he was that blackout. So whatever he does remember the bits and pieces. He's like, she must have provoked me and I got her. I told her she doesn't come for me. I mean, yeah, like the way that when he's talking to Whitney because even Whitney is like, all right, I'm going to go real slow here. I'm going to lead this horse to water and we'll see what he does. As he's talking to him, Whitney very quickly realizes like, oh, he doesn't see your perspective at all. He doesn't see Sally's perspective at all because as they're talking about the whole thing, he's like, man. It always ends up with Sally there. Am I right? What? Craig, this is a different thing. Not Sally popping up when you and Charlie are hanging out. This is you yelling at her on the van. That's not the same thing, dude. And that's what I'm saying. Like he's so, and it all comes down to one thing. He's incredibly selfish. Like he's probably the most selfish person on this show or on a lot of these shows because the only thing that he's actually focused on right now is how are Charlie and I doing. How will this affect me and Charlie? Not what's my standing in the group? Did I make an ass out of myself? Should I go apologize to Sally? None of that. It's, I hope Charlie and I are okay. Yeah. Which they're not as we quickly find out very subtly if you want to too because you see Charlie and Sally kind of talking. And I was kind of happy to because when they're talking about things and trying to figure out what happened the night before. There wasn't like an air of Sally looking at Charlie like I told you so I knew we were going to do this. It was, it was really just like I can't fucking believe that that happens. And Charlie's like I don't want to be around that. I have to distance myself from all this like no, I haven't texted Craig. I haven't said anything to him. I think Craig said at one point that he did text Charlie or something but like he's just I don't even know. I can't even figure out what he's trying to do. What he's trying to accomplish. What do you think is going to happen? And he's not, he's also like not walking over and acting like nothing happened. He knows that everybody's looking at him like that. He just doesn't care. There's just like I don't give a fuck what you people think about me. That's kind of the vibe that it's giving, which is not great considering one of the big things and issues people have with them is that he thinks he's better than because of sewing on South and all that other stuff. So now to walk around with your nose turned up a little bit and and act so ho ha. I'm like you didn't try to burn the world down last night is weird. And that's like again, we've all been there. Not I've never done what he did to Sally, but we've all had bad nights. We've all had the wake ups where you like shake off the rust and you're like, oh God, I can't leave my room ever like for the rest of my life because I'm I embarrassed myself too much. No, none of that. Actually, it's it's somehow the rest of the groups fall in some way shape or form because when Whitney's like you should apologize to who? Brother, they should apologize to me is what I got from that. Yeah, same like they provoked me again subconsciously. You knew she was doing when will they learn? Yeah, chat GPT tell me when they'll learn never Craig nobody understands you you're too complex with your wisdom. You'll be able to take them to the promised land of trusting you. If they only listen to you Craig, they'll be rich and wealthy too, but they don't that's why they're all poor. That's pretty much wraps up the morning. I mean more or less you get people bopping around like there's yoga. It's the whole thing is just kind of setting the scene of like what the feeling is where it's like we're just ignoring this elephant in the room that is Craig. And we're all going to try to have a day. We're going to talk about it ever so slightly. So one thing I have to call out here and I know that you know she had a tough night. I just when she's sitting with Austin Sally and Austin are sitting there. Rod comes over and he's like she's like we're on a date. I'm like don't do that joke right now like just you guys are making out your smoochin. I have so much respect for her ability to compartmentalize everything. She is in sun she's like head over heels with Austin you would think that's the only thing she's thinking of. And then she'll bop over and have so much energy for Craig and Charlie and it's like what you should be happy over here. Why are you worried about Craig and Charlie and it's almost like the other thing doesn't exist. So yes when it comes down to it even though you would imagine she should be going through it in the morning like trying to figure it out. And obviously she was in the right so everybody should be coming to check on her. She still has that ability to be like we're on a date guys come on get out of here. You know what we're having Miami vices we're going to smooch a little bit. Rod get out of here. Come on don't do this. Wait, didn't you just get yelled at last night and then like two minutes later she'll talk about that as if it's like the deepest most haunting thing she's ever come through. It's a great talent for reality. Yeah, it's awesome. Like it really is but it just it made me laugh like as a come on dude right now you're still okay. You know what respect. I believe it will respect but let's get to the retreat the healing retreat the overlying sentiment in the group is pretty much what we've already talked about. Craig's not going to understand he's not going to listen if we all try to talk to him so we're just not going to talk to him everybody. Let's go sweat and we get to this this healing what do you call it temple. I don't know. Yeah, we'll call it temple. Okay, so you get to the healing temple and there's a whole list of activities planned. Sweat lodge. Massages and then we're going to do a big sound bath healing circle at the end of this whole shindig now where are you going. I mean I'm going to the massage is once I heard that it was an hour and ten minutes in the sauna. I'm out. I'm not doing that but you I don't it's not a sauna. It's a sweat lodge. No, it's not it's more to it. No, it's not semantics. Don't play the semantics game. I'll semantic you right now pal because there's not in the mood. Here's the thing. I think you would actually have. I don't know if a good times the right word in a sweat lodge. I think you would gain something from it on a suit. Dude, we've been drinking for four days in Mexico nonstop. We're all sweating out disgusting toxins. What do you think it smells like in there? I don't care. That's not the point. I'm saying let's take the point for me. It's not the boost out of the fine. Yeah, I would go to the to the sweat lodge. That's always that's all right. Yeah, no, I'm just saying in this instance the first thing I thought of was oh my god. These people have been boozing heavily for days and they're eating berserk food, which is some of the worst food you could ever imagine. And they're sweating it all out together in a sauna or in a sweat lodge, as you said, for an hour and ten minutes. And that guy that probably seen there also probably stinks too. No, I would throw up. I would immediately probably throw up. I would be. Yeah, I mean the circumstances obviously make it a little bit more daunting, but yeah, I would obviously I would be in the sweat lodge. That kind of stuff I do believe works. But yeah, you get one crew there. You get the other crew getting massages. Now Craig bounces early, which I actually loved that the guru checked them because it was actually it was deeper than the guru even thought or new because he has no Craig. But to say like now you're battling with yourself. I was like, yeah, he fucking is you fucking tell this guy. You slipped in there and was like, hey, if this guy leaves early, you got to check him a little bit. So here's a good line to use. I have no idea, but I love that it happened. Oh, terinobley. That's what it's called. Terinobley. There you go. But you know, we were doing the the drums in there and everything and everybody that left the massage. Sorry, the sweat lodge. I had a had a moment. They're all like, wow, I have no thoughts in my brain. I feel completely free and absolved of everything. I'm okay with that part of it. But then when they started talking about like we just went through a lot together guys. Like we are so much closer. We are bonded. I'm like, shut up. See, that's where you that's such a bummer that we that's where we lose you. Because it's true. Like this stuff works if you just lean into it. No. Here. Okay, listen. I'm really good. I'm really good. I'm really good example of Sally by the way is. I've got nothing in my brain. I feel so good. I feel cleansed. Wow, we're so powerful as a group. We went through so much together. I want to go see Austin show Austin's in the show. So I got to go check out that D. How did you do that so quick? It's the Sally compartment in her head. Her her head looks like the container store. And it's just like open that one, close that one, open that one, close that one, open that one, close that one. But what I was saying since we have a little extra time since not a whole lot happened this episode. I think that it's borderline ignorant, not you, just in general and arrogant, not you, just in general. Just give me out. This really is not an attack on you. To think about from a scientific standpoint, okay. How interconnected everything is. So I think that's the most important thing in the universe, all of that on a quantum level. This is science, baby. This is astrophysics coming at you, quantum physics. That is all proven to be true. So I think that if we have been around for hundreds of thousands of years or 2000 years, if you, you know, believe it, different book. I think that to say that none of that stuff is real. I think it's kind of ignorant. 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But back to my point, at what point do we meet an immovable object on this show? At what point do we look at and go, fuck, people are starting to tap out when it comes to Craig, is that going to be a bigger issue moving forward? Oh, I don't know. We've been in this situation before. We've thought about it. And a lot of times we've talked about the Austin and Craig fight and how it seems to be something that will just never go away. People are going to get tired of. And for whatever reason, people still aren't tired of it. And I don't really get it. But for Craig, I don't know. I mean, I could see a world in which he just stops going. He's so good at. He cancels the show. And I think that that is a time to have that conversation probably. Close. I think they have one more run through. So where I think next season, he's on the outside the entire time, either of his own volition or the whole cruise volition, whatever it might be, then yeah, I mean, that's obviously the end of the road for Craig. He doesn't need the show anymore. He can still do whatever he's doing with everything else. He's got enough going on. And it seems like the show, like, that's the vibe that I get from Craig the most. And that's where I question it. The show seems like such a hardship for him. I'm like, I know you're getting paid pretty well for this show. But do you need it anymore? And like, I'm getting a little tired of showing up going to the show and then talking about like, oh, yeah, you know, I filmed like so many different scenes and all they want to show is like, Austin and me. It's like, dude, they've been doing that for 10 years. Of course, they're going to do that. So like, if you're going to show up to work and be like, I don't even understand why I do this, then don't do it anymore because it's translating to like, to through the screen to us, thinking like, what are you doing here? Like, you're not making the show better. Yeah, I mean, if people really want to watch that chaos, but like, I'm tired of watching that chaos. I want to see what else is going to happen. And then if you want to get rid of somebody like Craig, yeah, obviously it's going to be a big pain to move forward without one of your OGs. But it'll be fine. Like, you've got enough people down there where you can plug and play. I think that's the vibe I've gotten from this season as well between, you know, Sally, lover or hater, she's, she's good for the show. She moves the show forward. Charlie's been a nice addition as well. Vanita, similar lover or hater, you can't argue that she's driven the needle forward the season. Austin, Craigless Austin is probably the happiest Austin that we'll ever see. Honestly, I mean, shepp, shepp and Austin together will probably be great. Like, they don't have to worry about tiptoeing around Craig. Yeah. So like, you look at, I'm not saying, I really, I'm not saying get Craig off the show. I'm not. No, no, I'm looking at it. Could you have Craig off the show? Yeah, you could. The show would be okay without Craig like 100%. And more importantly, I think Craig would be a lot better without the show. I think everybody involved. I think it's a win-win when you look at it. That's, that's funny. You said that it feels like this show is just a drag form. That's, that's the best way. And I haven't been able to put my finger on it. That's exactly it. It feels like this is an irritant for him. Like, I don't want to fucking do this. I don't want to be here. Then don't. You know, it's cool. Come with you. We're good. But I mean, yeah, that's really the whole episode other than, I don't know if this is a potential backdoor. Or if this is just a generality, but Charlie saying, Craig goes, all of us an apology, but I want him to come to that on his own. One, that's never going to happen. Yeah. Two, is that Charlie saying if he does do this, I'll consider romance again? No, I think Charlie's done. And the things that we've seen online too, it seems like Charlie's fully removed from all of it. Like there is no romance left. This was like the strongest, like non vague feeling that I've gotten as far as any cast mate or really anybody on Bravo. Where it's like, no, like this is whatever the supreme version of an Iq is. She's just watched it. And like I do fully believe it. It's a yacht. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody yacht, somebody's Yums. But yeah, and obviously we're going to get a conversation next week I would imagine where it's just Charlie and Craig kind of talking about things. I still think she's going to be in the same realm of I hated watching that. I don't want to be associated with somebody romantically that's going to do that ever regardless of the situation. So no, I'm going to move on. And that's the vibe that I was getting from the entire episode. Also, they've been what dating going on dates for a couple of weeks at this point. It's not that big of a deal. Like you really don't have to have some deep conversation about this. It's just a move on and just hoping pray that it doesn't come back. Yeah, it was actually funny to listen to her explain away some of the other ones in this episode. She's like at least like the last times you freaked out like at least there was like kind of a reason like even she has been rationalizing his behavior because like at least he's mad for a specific reason even if it's a stupid reason this time. I don't know what he's pissed off about. I agree though that was the firmest we've seen someone stand and be like, nope, I'm done. And I do believe yeah, I just didn't know if that last one was like, uh, if he does this maybe. But I agree with you and I was actually I was like, hell yeah, Charlie put that foot down. Fuck that guy. Not literally. Well, yeah, very good. Literally, but figuratively and then move on and look at the end of the day if we're going to look at Charlie's first season two like this is a good intro. I think it was we had a couple of questions about what you were doing romantically with Craig and how you were handling your friendship with Sally and how you're being very secretive about it. But it seems like you're learning a little bit and honestly at the end of the day, not a bad first season from Charlie. That thought she held held her own very, very well. I think she's a good addition to this show, but let's get to some questions. Uh, first one up here from Nicki Mano 23. This is more of a statement. Charlie watching Craig go off from hiding me a page in Winterhouse watching him be an asshole. Yeah, that is actually pretty good. That is great. And I have somehow been logged out of broth bros. So yeah, that's all right. I'll read the questions. I saw something pop up while I got into the Instagram. Um, from Paterson. There you go. Brian Scott Patterson. Why do we keep allowing adult man babies like Craig to be little women? That's a good question too. I, you know, I, I, it's a valid point. But if you ask him, it's because he's perfectly imperfect. So yeah, he did nothing wrong. Uh, from Courtney Adele, 316, as straight guys, why do you think Craig and Austin's friendship is so toxic? I don't know. I can't, I mean, we know that like reality TV and stuff does a number on you and it is what it is. But there's so much more to that. And I think if they've gone through different phases of being like circumstantial friends and then having to deal with each other over and over again, it's just like, it's just gotten way too far gone where they have to be in each other's lives. There's love there in some way. But it's sort of like the friends that you would have moved on from that you're like, oh, yeah, I want them to do well in life. And I hope, I hope the best for them. But you don't hang out with them anymore. Yeah. I mean, pretty much that, you know, like there's, there's this weird thing with dude friendships where you feel, I guess responsible for certain people in your life, you know, like you either it's an older friendship or you had a deeper connection and so for whatever reason, those ones are really hard to get rid of. Yeah. That is a couple people calling for Craig to get fired. Boy, this is an interesting one from RM, RM lays. Can we get a power ranking of the boys? Oh, sure. That's an interesting one. I mean, this season, I'm putting a ship at the top. I'm fine with the ship. The ship's been great. I'll put Wittner off and tied, Craig and then Whitney upstein. See, you missed because my number one is Rod. Oh, I forgot about Rod. Rod had a great season. Number two for me is ship. Three, I actually go Austin slightly edging out over Wittner. Wittner is a close fourth there. Whitney upstein and then Craig is somewhere way down there. Yeah. From Vesna basic, how do Craig's outburst not affect his businesses? That's one of those questions that I know exactly. It never it never works for Bravo. It doesn't matter. Like people will I'm sure like I've been seeing reports and stuff online of like Kyle Cook is being mobbed by women in New York, like trying to hook up with him. It's like they watched the show. They see what happens and they still will show up and try to make out with this guy or you know from the dude's perspective, it's like guys will watch Sally's crazy behavior and then I'm sure as soon as you pop some of the audience. Let me go. Let me go talk to her. Yeah, come on. It's just a really weird thing with Bravo. It is and I think that with Craig in particular and we've seen it a lot this season because obviously we've been talking about his behavior. There is a large group of Craig fans that he does no wrong. They rationalize everything. We can have such a black and white straight forward point and they're in our comments telling us that the Craig hates insane. Craig's the real one in this group. Austin wishes he could be Craig. They just blindly support this man. It's fucking nuts honestly but good luck getting them to stop but yeah, it's very strange. So that's why his business isn't affected. I imagine those people are buying his pillows. Yeah. From its Clarissa, why did Wittler sign up for Southern Charm? Girls, lonely, fame, money, influencer biz, all of those seem to not apply. That's a good point. I really don't know. He's not like really close friends with anybody there. He knows who they are. He's going on these trips. He just seems like he's a pretty mellow dude. I don't really think that he's got a whole lot going for it in terms of why he's on Southern Charm. I think he's got an awesome gigantic ranch that they can go to. I think that he probably genuinely hung out with these guys frequently and they're like, bring him on the show. I think that's honestly as deep as it goes. Now, if in this last episode we see this other alleged side of Wittler, that may tell us everything as to why he's on this show. There's a big outlier still out there somewhere guys that apparently Wittner's a psycho have not seen it yet. So stay tuned. I can't see that. And the last one here from Kelly Lee Ray. 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