E1074 - TWINS, Summer House Premiere w Bailey, The Valley Persian Style w Amir and Natasha & Single Bronwyn

Okay. What's going on everybody? Welcome back to another wacky and wild episode of the Vow Files reality recap edition. I am your host Nick Joyne by my very pregnant wife. Woooow! Oh, that was great. Let's go. What's going on? It's twins. Can you guys believe it? No. That's awesome. But I'm a prince. Because I'm a prince. Neither can I. Shocking. What were you guys feeling when you found out that it was twins? Did you think it was gonna be twins? Oh my god, no. First time. Well, funny story. Was that a funny story? Funny story. Wait, you tell it. Sister, seven, six years ago. Oh, big win for the mediums. Big win for the psychics out there. When Nick and I, like, first started dating. Okay. He was like, I'm never getting married. Like, I don't even want to date you. And he's like, sorry. Or a harsh. But no, no, no. He's like, my sister, how funny is this? Like, my sister saw this psychic and she said the brother closest to you is gonna have twins. Brother closest to his sister, Maria, is Nick. Both in age and in relationship. Okay. There was no wiggle room. There was no way it could be. Yeah. Okay. And so this whole time since like, I'm like that, you know, it's always in the back of my head. I'm like, oh, that was so crazy. You know, I'm not really like a typical psychic believer. But still sitting back there, you know, still at the, still in the noggin. And so when I got pregnant with River, it crossed my mind. And now of course, I go to this ultrasound by myself. Why would it bite? I didn't want to come. No, where were you? I went with our daughter. By my self in studio. It's because it was so unfortunate that of course, this is the one that like, we don't, you know, rivers down for a nap. I think we had a flight to catch later that day. So we were like, we really need her to nap right now. Nick's home with her while she's napping. You know, can't like, leave her and just like, watch them on it or you know, so I was like, it's right up the road. I'll just go and FaceTime you all in there, whatever. And then of course, as soon as I enter the room, it's like no videoing, no recording, no phones allowed. Leave your phone in your purse turned off airplane mode. And I'm like, absolutely no exceptions. Yeah. Because like, you don't want to like, put out your own hip up. But like, you don't want to violate yourself. No, why they do that. Looking out for the. Like, I think it's like, is it the equipment and so maybe perhaps like the. It's like right under like the TV screen that you look at of your, I, yeah, I don't really know why they do it. But I had been a long time since I had gotten good news with an ultrasound, right? So I was very, very nervous and. I was already in tears by time. I'm like under the thing and she goes in and she's like, okay, there is one gestational sack with a baby. And I'm like crying, you know, I'm like, oh my god, I see the little heartbeat go. And then she's like, and there is another so twins. But I just was like, no, I wish my husband was here. Like I was just so heartbroken that he wasn't in that moment with me, you know? And so then of course, I'm like trying to figure out he's texting her. Like what's going on? Yeah, a little. Like how am I going to tell him? Literally, I'm like, why can't do this over text? So she doesn't reply to my text and I'm like, oh, yeah. Yeah, then I am like, I'm just five minutes from the house. I'm just going to tell him when I get home. I, of course, here's me pull into the garage. She comes out. I'm crying crying. Of course, so mix it about headspace. I don't know. I mean, not only. I told almost my other option. But yeah, you could have been like, everything's okay. I'll tell you all about it when I get home. That was her first guess. That was her first try. I was just, you know, not in that headspace. I was a little. Silence. Silence. And then tears. Yeah. To be fair, you did just find out you had twins. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. It was very shocked. Yeah. So I have to wait for the email. I'm like, I don't want to go home and not be able to show him the twins on the ultrasound. So I'm like waiting for the email to take a little extra time. I'm crying crying in the car. And if he's standing in the garage watching Natalie just sitting there in the car, the doors are locked. He's like, let me out of here. No, not yet. So then I just, all I do is show him the ultrasound. And he's like, what is this? I don't know. What's happening? What can you just tell me? What is this? Twins. Doesn't any ultrasound? They print out. She's crying here. She's like, but what is this good? And he's like, what twins? Because of course it says like baby A, baby B. Oh, so you noticed. I did. You noticed. It took me about 10 seconds. He read. I read. Look at you. Wow. Proud of you. Winning doubt, Reed. I mean, I was thrilled. Like what went through your mind like when you put it all together like honestly, I was just happy for a clean bill of health. Yeah. Well, then I'm like just making sure Nally's okay. I know there was, I imagine for the ladies out there, that's a lot of information to process. But a little, you know, I'm more just like, yeah, I'm kids. Like we got to catch up. But you know, I was kind of, I was curious how she felt about it. Did he do good though? How did you feel about it? I mean, of course, I've just like pure shock. I think honestly, I'm still in shock. The people that I've talked like my sister has twins, Nick's sister has twins. I know some people, some friends that have twins and I've kind of like reached out to them being like, I am a so scared. Like, I, you know, I crushed one newborn phase, you know, like one baby, two arms. I can do that. But like two crying babies plus toddler. I'm like, I'm so scared and everyone was like, I didn't fully grasp twins until like a year after they were born. Like it just is a process. It's a journey. But I mean, obviously we're just like overall so excited. 300, 300 like that. You guys are the new daddy and Mia. Leia's also has twin siblings. I do have twin siblings. They're best friends. It's really, it's such a beautiful thing to, as the singleton to watch your two siblings be best friends. Yeah, I'm a river. Um, first, yeah. Yeah, almost the exact same age difference too. Really? Yeah, they, I mean, it's awesome. They're, we're all super close because we're all really close in age also. And, um, I also do want to say like for all of the families out there who have struggled through miscarriages and are waiting on their rainbow baby, I know this is like, you don't want to listen to this. This is like hard to hear that, you know, I remember seeing that. I'm getting on Instagram and seeing everyone doing their pregnancy announcements. And it was just like, why not me? Why is this, you know, it's hard to, you know, you're happy for other people, but you're also like, I just, I want that for myself so bad. And so for anyone who's listening who's waiting on your rainbow baby, just don't give up hope. It's there. They're coming. I just don't want you to be discouraged or lose hope because I was there. I was in that tunnel and it was dark and you find a way out. And I just, yeah, it's, it was such a process for us. You know, we luckily had a doctor who was like, I want you to see a fertility specialist, three miscarriages at your age is not normal, especially having a healthy baby at home. And so we went to Dr. Carolyn Alexander here in Beverly Hills. If anyone is looking for one, she is truly amazing. And we ran a ton of tests, you know, we did everything that she could think of and everything came back very normal. Like has is exceeding expectations over there. So it definitely wasn't him. And you know, yeah, I think you were ready to take it though. Yeah, Nick got an A plus. And it was kind of to a point where it was like, I just want something. Like let's just find out what it is and everything just kept coming back normal. And then she decided to run a test that I think they stopped testing for. And found out that I have two blood disorders gene mutations. One is called PAI one. The other one is a tag is called tag to EG. And I had to go to a hematologist to run more tests about this. And they base basically my blood attacks the fetus. And so we that's why we always refer to River as like our miracle baby because it's like how did that not happen to her? You know, it's like if this is something that's in my blood that my body does, like it's crazy that she just had we had no problems with her. So our plan of action has been I take shots of blood thinners in my stomach every single day. Well, are you still doing that now? I still do it. I will do it my entire pregnancy. I also take an aspirin every day. So the aspirin helps with the tag, the blood thinners help with the PAI one. So yeah, it's been quite the journey. And I think Nick and I, you know, with River, I feel like we took it all for granted. Like in this one, it's kind of like every, you know, every cramp I feel or ever, you know, it's always like there are definitely some scary nights. Yeah, there's been some scary nights. Yeah. Very present and just very grateful for every piece of good news that we get. Like leaning on the scientific side of everything has made the losses feel a little bit easier. This one asks us how has it been processing the difference between pregnancy isn't especially having the to do these injections and whatnot. But I'm like obviously very much worth it. Totally worth it. Yeah. I think the shots early on before I was showing, you know, before I felt them kick or flutter or anything, it's like a still is, you know, a daily reminder of like everything that we've lost. But I think we see miscarriages and everyone sees this differently. Everyone processes this differently. But I've always seen it as like the baby wasn't ready to come. And so we got two of our three. So I think that makes it easier to process and kind of move through this pregnancy with a little bit more joy and hope. Well, listen, I think it's just, you know, kind of like I said on two days episode, you just never know what life brings you. And we wouldn't be in this position that we are today, you know, if some of these, some of these tragedies that we experienced hadn't happened. And it's not like you, you're not glad for those tragedies, but like it, you know, life has a way of working itself out. So I think we're just very grateful for, you know, the position we're in right now. I also think that information, I mean, it's going to be so helpful for a lot of people because I think a lot of the times you kind of, a lot of people generalize the ideas of miscarriages as if it's just something that happens where it's like, oh, there's the science behind it is like, oh, because of your blood type or whatever it may be where I'm like, I think that that's really pertinent information for people to know that it's like, hey, like maybe we do need to go see a specialist and figure this out. And it's not just a, a me problem, you know, and I mean that it's like, it is, there is a solution to it, you know, not only I think you're so, you know, you know, you're brave and it's so, you know, great that you are sharing this publicly because, you know, like you said, the doctor tested for something that they don't even test for anymore and you discovered this blood thing that you couldn't even have imagined existed. And it's possible that somebody listening here has the same thing and they would not have known to even test for it. So thank you for sharing. Yeah. It's hard not to make it feel so for two of us, or you know, twins, given everything that happened. I'm excited for the chaos happening at Y'all's houses. Yeah, my God. Are you prepared? Yeah. A little overwhelming. You know, it's like, I don't know how this might be far ahead. Are you going to like do the thing where you dress them all where you dress both of them the same? Yes. But like, are you going to choose like different colors for each of them? Are they going to be like exactly the same? We will be dressing the same constantly. That in rocks. You too as well? Yes. We have a choice. We have a choice. We will all be dressed. Five of them. The same outfit. The Von Trap family. Yeah. Same with Steven Jeff. Everybody even Jeff is wearing Steven Jeff. Steven Jeff will also be included. I'm predicting it here. What are they going to do? I'm predicting in your future a lot of trips to amusement parks. Oh my God. Tundee, you guys are going to be able to watch the Danny DeVito and Arnold Schwarzenegger movie twins with them. There she goes. There she is. Hi, Mayor. That's all I have to say. That is true. That is the Nevada reference thing, girl. My lips now. Sealed. Well congrats. Yes, congrats. So good to be with you all. So happy for you guys. I'm just, yeah, twins is amazing. I'm sure it's going to be a handful and a lot to deal with and not going to be easy. But. It's nice to be able to finally just tell people to. Yeah. Because at first it was like scary at first. We told some friends and then it's just like obviously with finding out. You know, twins are coming. It's like overwhelming and scary and how. You're you're excited, but you're just like how do we execute? Yeah, we're going from one to three children. I can imagine it's the only thing you're thinking about like. Yeah, I was doing the show and like we, you know, we travel a lot for work and we've, you know, we're very lucky to be as busy as we are. And we've really, especially with River, we really focused on obviously being present parents and being involved. But like continuing our very exciting, very busy life. Yeah. And to be certainly hope to do that is everyone does. But when you know, it's like, I don't, you know, you don't know how your life's going to change or how you're, you know, how you're going to be able to manage. You know, your current way of life with when when too much. I've definitely been like leaning on a lot of moms with twins of like asking them their processes and like what they're doing because it's like. It, it feels impossible, you know, it feels for someone who is going from one to three twins, like the idea of it in every video I've seen is like, I wish I could hug the version of me that was so scared of this. And it's like the mom like breastfeeding both of her twins or like just crushing it. She's got such a routine and schedule with them and like. She's like, I wish I could hug that version of me that was like terrified and thought I couldn't do this. Um, you know, and we were obviously just in Mexico and felt like everyone we talked to there randomly also had twins. And so we were like picking their brain of like a lovely couple on the beach who has to take a picture with us. They're like, would you like us to take a picture of family and she had her belly out my yeah. So she asked me when I was do I asked when she was do and then she was do before me and I'm like, well, I'm having twins. That's why I'm so much bigger than you are. She just said the sweetest, tiniest little bump. And she was like, oh my gosh, our three year olds are twins. And then we were like, what have you been doing? You're gonna start noticing this everywhere though. It's like when you're looking for a car and there's like a car on your mind. You just start seeing it everywhere. I was gonna say your ex boyfriend's heart yet to be like, what is everybody's car? A Ford Explorer from 2008, how original. I could give you my mom's number and I'm happy to talk to River. My parents got me a dog as my twin, but you already have to. So I'm actually getting that hamster. I think we'll get her a cat. We'll have to get her a cat. You're gonna have to get her own twin eventually. This will be good for her. Like my sister was real pissed when I showed up. And she still pissed that you're. I do think there is something so beautiful about like a family with siblings who have like differences or like for me, like there's such like a age gap between me and my siblings and it created such a different and special relationship with me in them. And I feel like with twins like to be the single person and to be like someone with twins is simply that also creates kind of like this really interesting and special dynamic where it's like River gets her like little twins. You know what I mean? Like it's really sweet. You're getting two baby dolls. She's so. She's so funny because she obviously like we talk about it. We tell her there's like the ultrasound pictures on the fridge and we'll be like, for how many babies are in mama's belly and she goes, one, two babies. Oh. And she carries two baby dolls around, you know, like she's, oh, did you get her little baby, baby twins? For her birthday, I got her the Barbie set that has two twins and it's like two cribs and it's two. It's like the, I think it's called Skipper babysitter. But yeah, she like will carry around two baby dolls and she's just, I'm really happy for you guys. This is so exciting. And now I can now, like, just, you know, she's been really sucking in on the show. I'm sitting like this. I've been like, let it all out. Let them out. Let it all out. Let them out. Let it out, mama. We are very grateful and appreciate all the support. We do have, once again, a fantastic, fantastic episode lined up for y'all. Bailey Taylor from the new season of Summer House. She is a new cast member replacing the other Bailey, the other Bailey who had a group boyfriend and Lexi who came and went with a bang. Love Lexi. I think she did it perfectly. She did it, she did it lovely. I kind of heard it. But now we have Bailey to kick off this season. It was a fun first episode. I think like all the new cast members. Kyle and Amanda really are going to give us their divorce season. It is hard. Yeah. They fucking hate each other. Like, I know it's always been like this, but it just now knowing that they're separated. I don't know. I've been pretending. It's just, yeah. And it's like the most uncomfortable. I can't imagine sitting at the table like being around them, let alone like us, like, worth watching it on TV. I can't. Obviously we'll talk about it. But is there a world where you guys are just grateful that Kyle and Amanda are really willing to show this? Absolutely. I want to see all of them. Are we willing to offer them both a little grace given just like relationships are hard and, you know, obviously we have our opinions about choices that some of them are making in the marriage. I think everyone deserves grace. Yes. But I just like, they're about to give us a great season. 100%. Via their pain. I mean, truly, like, they're, that's not, you know, a divorce hard, you know, well, they weren't divorcing while filming. They were still. I don't think that these things don't just happen overnight. I just, I don't, I don't see, I don't think that they showed up to this season throwing these types of jabs at each other. If they didn't really think this was coming. We did watch Amanda be like, I just want to have like a passion project. And then Kyle go on a full on rant, call her a bitch and be like, well, that I'm going to start a DJ as like as if it was some sort of facetious joke. And the next thing, you know, he's a fucking DJ. And he cares more about his DJ career than his marriage. To the next point though, there's a little bit of like a filter that's been dropped and you can see them actually like speak what they're both feeling. Yeah, they're not pretending anymore. No, for sure. I don't know. I'm still thinking season two. Summer should be fun. Amanda? Not fun while she's sobbing. Yeah. That's true. Because he has always been like this. I bet the only thing that is that now what we're seeing is that Amanda's over it. And she's not taking the shit anymore. Do we think next season it'll be single Amanda? And by next season you mean in the city? I was like, or do we think one will stay in the city and one will be in summer house? Definitely staying in summer house for sure. Well, I think Sierra and Amanda are kind of like, you know, I think they'll go out together or stay together. I think Sierra needs to make the jump to the city. I'm going to give us a modern day sex in the city for the women. Absolutely. Send it with Kyle in summer house. We also have a mirror in Natasha from the Valley Persian style to join us later this episode as well. The Valley Persian style is really, it's good. It's good. It's good. You guys are all catching on. We're very, very glad. We jumped on board fast. And it seems like most many of you are catching along to the awesomeness that is the Valley Persian style. And we are excited to have a mirror in Natasha to talk about their time on the show. So do not forget to check out Valfauss Plus. Everything is ad free now, including your update specials where you get updates on your favorite ethnic colors, your deep dives into your favorite reality TV shows and characters. Like who's brawin' fucking these days? You know what I'm saying? Which will get to you. God, she's brawin' is my hero. And they're your pop extras. Where we get into some pop culture topics that we didn't cover on reality recap. Go to Valfauss.com and check it out. You'll be glad that you did. Anyway, brawin' is out there. She's dating. She's got a man. Finally we have a single housewife who is out there dating some hotties, getting her groove on, getting her groove back. Also, I love that she is dating this model brand and good for a few weeks. And they're like in the comments, like back and forth to each other being cheeky, going out in public. She's like, I, sorry, guys. She's like, this may work. It may not work. I don't know. I don't care. I'm going out. I'm getting that deep. I'm hiding with him. I'm going out. I didn't see any photos of them until I saw it be announced. And then the second I got announced, it was like Christian Cereana posting stories. Everybody with both of them. I want to see brawin' sneak a couple hottie model men or women, whatever. Whatever she wants. Honestly, it doesn't matter. One, two, three. Into a girl's trip. I want that Bob coming out of whatever hotel room just dishevelled. Activated. Just activated. Yeah, fuck out. Just a little glow of sweat. You know what I'm saying? So what? What are you fighting about? She's going to do something Heather Gade never could. As excited as Nick is, Mary was devastated about this. Oh, when I got this information. Yeah, hey, listeners, by the way, I really want to get my, I made a brawn one in Whitney Good Luck Babe fancam. I'm trying to get it to 100K on Instagram. How's it doing? 95. Oh, okay. It's doing good. The people want to see it. And so I was kind of bummed when she did step out. Can we, can you make, can you make a new one for brawin' and her new man? Oh, it's going to come out. That goes against her, really. She did, it goes against her head. Her heart's not in that one. She said no. She said, right, her love. Mary, Mary, you can make a fancam about like how he came in and disrupted the relationship that could have been. No, what is going to be, it's going to be, Whitney crying in the corner. Whitney crying. Whitney crying in the corner. It's going to be, no, because this isn't about me, this is about Whitney. For sure, for sure. And so what it's going to be, is it's going to be Bronwyn and her new man and then, like, I'll cut to and edit it so it looks like Whitney is just like. Yes, that's what. Yeah, and then it's going to be the subway by the job. And then you have Nick being like. I'm just so happy for her. You know, like, up to four, separation, it's hard and fans can be mean. And I've seen some mean stuff out there talking about our girl, but brawin' and for her to just like embrace the single life, go out there, live her best life. Don't know what's going on with her and Todd, but obviously like, I think just say good for her. Like, I just, I'm happy that she's happy and she's having fun. And we just do not get to see a lot of housewives who are single, like, bring us into this part of their world. And I think it's fun. He said, Doreet, take notes. Yes, Doreet. You said, I want to know that the housewives are getting like piped down. Your words are fine. How do you think Todd handled the snooze? I mean, I do hope that he was on a date. That's what I think to, yeah, I hope that it wasn't his cousin. I hope that he was the first one to have to go out on a date. And that it's like they're both separated and moving on to their lives. I want them all to be happy. Yeah. Todd needs somebody that's not on reality TV and Bronwyn needs somebody that like, we'll go to every fashion show. Maybe he's even in the fashion show. I'm the man. She's first seen. Yes. I do think the Roni, the e-show that they just announced Golden Life is probably going to be this. It's in Palm Beach, but it's going to be them all. They're all single. I don't know if I'm not getting this. It's going to be awesome. It's going to be hot, rich people probably. It's going to be Mona and Sonia Morgan return. Angel. I am not a trophy wife. I'm telling you guys, after you watch this new hit show called Age of Attraction that's coming out in Netflix March 11th, we're really going to be supporting our adult queens who may want to dabble. So true. In the young hot model, men arena. So true. I mean. I think if that is for you, God bless. Get in it. Get in it. You'll have some fun. Go on. So what it's for? Let people have fun. Yeah. The boys have been doing it for centuries. It's now time. Exactly. Curlies have fun. That's about a while. Yeah. You know who's having a lot of fun right now? Who? Brittany Bateman on American Idol. Oh, yeah. What did she have to do? She said, and do you know who I am? And it was crickets. There's nobody though who could recover from that better than Brittany Babes. So true. She said, she loves a bit. Brittany is okay. She's going to commit to a bit. Being the butt of the joke. She said, I'm Brittany Bateman. You know who I am. She said, I have an announcement. And they were all like, okay. Carrie on the road said she has a knife. And she does have a knife. So we, God, say good thing. I bet you somewhere. Before she walked in, they were like, why do you have a glass? What? And she's like, you'll know. They're like, this is the wrong network. We don't know that. Do you think she has copyrighted? I have an announcement. Ting, ting, ting. She should. That might be tough. Ting, ting, ting. It is very vague. It's really common. And I'm also curious what she's going to do with this trademark of high body count hair. Probably nothing. Probably just nothing. She probably just got it to be petty. Yeah. Yeah. Sell it to Angie. She got it at her time. Yeah. Very fair. And I don't know. She was there with her niece who was auditioning and they sang together. But why did they sing together if her niece was auditioning? Yeah. I didn't feel like it was necessarily a duet moment. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I think that they brought her on for the bit. And she had to sing if she was going there. Yeah. Then she sang her name. I just kind of felt like Denise's auditions looked sounded really good. And she played the piano. But then there was moments where they were boasting together. And I was like, I don't know. That's how it's supposed to sound. I thought the tune was good. I don't know if that's how it's supposed to sound. It's not good. You know what I mean? Maybe it was just creative choice here. It was giving cabaret. It was giving live in the moment. It's giving kind of cheating too. You know what I mean? Cheating. Cheating, if she's not going to participate in it, I'm going to help you audition. Yeah. Well, this was really good though. I really liked her voice. Did she get through? I think she got the golden ticket and Ryan Seagress was like, you still dating Jared? No way. No way. Oh, so someone knew. May have to know. Ryan's giving it to you. Ryan's giving it to you. It's giving. I don't know who you are. I know who you are. Ryan Seagress knows who you are. Who is that? Are you going to be on American Idol now? We will see. I mean, we posted our cut down. We talked about it on pop and posted a cut down about it. Please tune into pop. We talk about fun things. We posted a cut down of our conversation about American Idol and American Idol got into the DMs. Well, American Idol commented and then I put on our story, how do we get on American Idol? Because a cut down play I'm trying to go to say can you sing? No, because I can. Then I can show up. Are you going to be a hush? I'm so excited. I'll be like, do you know who I am? And they'll be like, no. Yes. And then you'll sing with me. Well, then you have to say inside of Nick, Vy, all you'd be like, do you want to be writer? Do you want to be happy? Anyways, so we'll see. I don't know if I want to embarrass myself on TV. What's your opinion? What's your opinion? I know. Well, it is Celine Dionne. No. My karaoke song is. Can you sing a whole new world? What is that song? It's a system of a down. Oh, like a... Yes. That's your song? Yes, because they just like to joke around and have fun and I'm not actually ever like, you know, I'd probably do like a... We should do an islands in the stream, do it. I karaoke one time. That'll be really funny. We'll see. I don't know. We'll see where this plot goes. I'll keep you all a prize. Alright, well, we love a person with two first names like River Rose and Bailey Taylor joins us next. Listen, we all need a little inspiration in our life and I'm not gonna lie. 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And then like I went outside and I was just like shaking and then he just like wield the suitcases away and just kind of like walked away from me. It was like the lack of explanation. I just was like it was the most blind sighting weird thing. How long were you guys together? Two years. Wow. And have you heard from him since? We've talked since but it was such a horrible relationship that it's just it's not. Did he reach out to you after seeing the episode? Yeah. No. He will there's a zero percent chance you would ever watch it. I know that for sure. Well you know someone in his life. Yeah. He will be finding out for sure. He knows. He knows who he is. Well after my family and I went and saw the mighty duck set a budget theater. We got home and they played the answering machine. Yeah, I know. It was a while ago on your family's landline. Yeah. And the message was Nick. This is Kelly. Your dump. Not in front of the whole family. That might even be worse. Yeah. At least it was in person. I was in the sixth grade. So in front of the star. She. In front of the star she couldn't drive. She didn't want the drama at school. Yeah. And I like the Kelly knew what she wanted in sixth grade. You know, she was like, I'm not me. Not you. So, respect Kelly. And honestly, Kelly's loss is my game. There you go. Bailey, how did you being on Summer House come to be? So, one of my friends, I had known Amanda through our friend Dylan. And then another friend of mine posted something about like the casting and looking for best friends. And I was like, okay, this could be fun. I already know Dylan, I know Amanda through Dylan. This could be cute. And then they kind of were like, who was your best friend? Do you have someone that like you genuinely would want to be here with? And I was like, it absolutely would be Levi. It has to be Levi because anybody else would be disingenuous. Like this is my true sister in this world. And yeah, just kind of like, it came together very quickly and it was very exciting. And I was so grateful to have Kyle and Amanda there, just to like kind of ground it a little bit and just kind of like make me feel more comfortable. But it was such a wild summer. Oh my gosh, it was just absolutely wild. Well, speaking of kind of Amanda, obviously the news of their separation has been out. And then we get to see this first episode. And they really seem to be prepared to give us the divorce season. There were certainly some awkward moments watching it. I am curious what was it like for you being in the house and seeing your friends kind of, when he's like, she's not listening. And she's like, I'm so jealous. I wake up every morning filled with jealousy. And he's like, what are you talking about? I was like, this is crazy. Anyway, as well as it's like for you. It was more sad for me than like, than anything else. I feel like it's always sad. Just I don't know. You're watching two people that love each other, but it just like can't. It isn't clicking and working at that time. So it's just, it was more sad to me than anything. I just like, I felt bad. I want them both to be happy. And I just respect them and love them both. So it was just for me as a friend. It was just kind of, it's just more sad to watch your friends go through something like that than anything. Well, since your friends with both of them, we were talking about this before. People will obviously have their opinions and talk about this breakup and yada, yada, yada, and take sides as we do. And I think a lot of people, I think it's easy for a lot of people to empathize with Amanda's point of view. And I think a lot of people are struggling with Kyle's point of view, because it's just like, yo, you're kind of choosing this lifestyle. But like as someone who's friends with both of them, do you have empathy for Kyle's point of view or do you understand his position a way that made the audience isn't getting or are you kind of seeing what we're seeing? I feel like I'm just really grateful that they're in such a good place now that it's just like, I feel like everyone's kind of come to a mutual understanding at this point where it's like they seem to just be doing really, really well and kind of like come to a place of mutual understanding. So I feel like if they can come to a place of mutual understanding and be good together, then so can I. But I truly just want them both to be happy. And I love Amanda and I want her to thrive. And I got my girls back for sure, but if they're both good, there's really nothing. Well, we do see in the trailer, you and Carl, getting a little touchy feeling is there any moment that maybe you are nervous about airing? No, there's nothing I'm nervous for. Carl is a wonderful, adorable person. I am, I have nothing but so much love for Carl. So I love making out with Carl and make out with Carl anytime. So I am not nervous at all. I will scream my love for Carl from the rooftops. Well, it's a very single house other than right now, Kyle and Amanda, going into this house, were you hoping for a showman's open to a showman's? Were there any of the boys there that you were fancing at all? I was, I was just like, I've been single for so long. I've had this traumatizing break up that clearly was like, just ailing me. And I really hadn't dated at all since the break up. So I was just kind of like, I was just excited to like have fun and let loose and just kind of like rediscover that feeling. And I feel like I did that. And the boys are great. There was some that like definitely it was like, you're my friend instant vibes. And then yes, there's definitely some like, there's some hobbies in that house. So yes, I definitely have, there's a lot of flirtation in me learning how to like get back out there. I was very trepidacious to do so. And so I really like, I really try to like open up and let men in again and see the good in them. And Carl is just a sweet, sweet human being who I'm very lucky to have met. So you didn't want to just eat shrimp and die alone. There were times, great line. I just wouldn't have got overwhelming. Yeah, there were times when I was like, I can't handle this, but I was like, I just, there's too many dynamics, but I did try to put myself out there, but yeah. Sierra said on watch what happens live that West's ass looks really great in jeans. And I'm just wondering if you can confirm or deny. And out of West's ass doesn't agree. West's ass looks great all the time. West does have a great ass. Does he have the best ass of summer house? Ooh. Ooh. I might say yes. I might say yes. I think Ben probably has the best abs or KJ. Ben and KJ both, like there's some really major app moments going on, but yeah, West does have a really cute butt. And KJ is really giving Australian Matthew McConaughey. Ben Ben Ben Ben Ben Ben Ben Ben is literally the definition of Australian Matthew McConaughey. That was like literally, I had met him for five minutes. And I was like, OK, Australian Matthew McConaughey is looking at me. And I don't know how to handle it. Did you go back and watch his bachelor season? No. No. Because he said not to. OK. Wow. He didn't want us to. He said like it wasn't a strong representation of him. And so I wanted to be respectful. That's fair. Because it's like when you know someone in person, I know him. So I was just like, OK, if you feel like this really isn't a good representation, he said he kind of like froze up. And it just didn't. It wasn't him. So no, I did not watch it. You're a good friend for doing that. You're a stunning man. He's stunning. Did you? What else can you tease of this season? Will we? Are we bringing anyone home late at night? We get wild. I like that is the thing I can tease is that the season is truly just wild. And I was like a girl with a mission. I just was like, I need to make out and I need to have fun. And I need to hang out with boys. And so I really, I was putting myself out there. I was going into the house. Speaking of last season, Lexi and Bailey didn't last very long. Lexi had a phenomenal season, but it was kind of full of controversy. She didn't really seem to connect with the rest of the women. There was a lot of discourse about how, you know, whether the women could have been more welcoming to her. Going into this house, did you have any anxiety or fears about just, you know, this is an OG cast. Many of people, their friends. It didn't again go very well for the newbies last season. What was that experience like for you? And yeah, did you have any nerves going in? I was definitely very nervous and it is, knowing Amanda, I had a little bit of a leg up because it wasn't just like, like I said, I had that comfort of her and Kyle just kind of knowing they were there. But it's a scary experience just to go in and to go into a sharehouse with people who have known each other that long. And you're like learning this person, dated this person and this person like this person and this person doesn't like this one. And this is this and you're just kind of overwhelmed with all the dynamics. But I had a very positive experience with the girls. I'm just like a, I'm a girls girl through and through. So I just right off the jump was just like in there with the girls. And I had my best friend. So it was also like, I had heard a lean on. So I was very lucky that I had that experience of having Levi with me because it's like no matter what's happening, her and I can just pop around and dance and be silly goofy crazy. So I had a very positive experience as a newbie and especially with the women. Like we really bonded and kind of like look at the men and are like, well, they make some very questionable decisions. So I was really like with them and being like, yeah, no, that's they're insane. So I was, I was team girl very much. So so I had a great positive experience with all of them. Do you know why they did bring in more newbies this season compared to last seasons? I don't, that wasn't not told to me in any way. So I actually do not know we every, we were surprised with things and surprised with newbies just like everyone else is going to be. So we did not have any insight as to anything like it was a genuine surprise the entire time. Who threw the best party this summer? Ooh. The first part to be loved the first party because that there was so much more of like the pie, the pie was so fun. Everybody pie in each other was hilarious. And then just like there was so much dancing. But I would say Sierra throws the best party. Hell yeah. Good. Sierra, for the girls in West for the guys maybe. Maybe. That's not right. When I like to see. When the season comes to an end, what do you think the fans will be saying most about you? That I cry a lot. Okay. That's what it has up. I cry a lot and that I am truly an open book. I really just like have this thing where I compulsively say every thought that comes to my brain and I can't help myself. What are you thinking about right now? How amazing and fun this is. I'm not afraid of that. I'm just like, I'm thinking about it. She's telling the truth. She's telling the truth. So excited for everyone to see this summer just because I just know that like that was just such a taste of how crazy and wild and just like the I can't describe it to anybody. I'm just like, it was wild. Like we just keep the party going and we go out so much. And it was just like a non-stop party fest that I'm like, I'm just so excited for people to see it because I just think they're going to have a really fun time and there's just really like beautiful bonding moments where the house really like feels like a family and just really hysterical moments that are just outlandish that I'm excited for people to get to see. So I am. That's what I'm thinking about is don't spoil anything, but I just want everyone to know wild at all times. Before we let you go, Bailey, we're going to play a little game. And based on this season, give us one word to describe what we should expect from the rest of your cast members. Okay. I can just pick any word. We're going to go. Yeah, anywhere do you want? Just one adjective to describe these cast members and what and what we will think and feel or about their experience. Starting with Mr. Jesse Solomon. He's really one of the girls. I know that's not what we're girls. I know that's really just one for the for the girls in a different way this season. I feel like he's honestly like he learned his lesson. I love that. Yeah, I love that for Jesse's like I'm going. He was like a big brother. He was very much like there for everybody and just like, yeah, he's one for the girls in a different Jesse Solomon way this season. He walked in. He was like, fuck him. Yeah. Yeah, he's like these men are despicable. Sierra. Open. Levi. Fun. West. Crazy party animal. Lindsay. Milk. Oh, let's go. Hard milk energy. I can say that she is ready to like like she's a milk beyond. KJ. Sweet. Amanda. Vulnerable. Carl. Amazing. Mia. Collected. Dara. Flirty. Ben. Hot. And Kyle. Struggling. Bailey, we appreciate you. I'm really excited to see the season unfold for you. Please let our audience know where they can follow you and enjoy anything that you're doing outside of summer house. They can follow me at at Bailey T Taylor on Instagram at it girl the series and I have a fun little podcast surprise coming soon as well. I've heard well, check it out. Bailey, appreciate you and we'll talk soon. Good luck to rest the way. Thank you guys. Thank you. Bye. Love her. Love her. Yeah. Well, we do have a rapid recap for summer house. If you missed the premiere episode, we are back, baby, and Amanda already wants to drive out with Sierra instead of Kyle. There's a new guy who's also from Kansas City and is a skater. Welcome KJ. We all think you're really hot. And also two new girls, Bailey and Levi, who were immediate besties. Amanda is still pissed that Kyle is a DJ. Sierra has decided she's not going to eat West alive this summer because she's trying to be less rigid. Jesse wants to be a bed bug with Sierra and Amanda. Now that Paige has gone, Kyle lost his wedding ring so Amanda won't wear hers until he gets a new one, which could mean nothing. Bailey just got out of a two year relationship and got broken up with at a sweet green after the guy she did on her. But she is very excited about this summer. There's also a new guy named Ben. He's Australian and was also on the Australian bachelor, which is like regular bachelor, but instead of roses, you get to wrestle a giant scorpion. Whoever wins falls in love. Anyway, Carl feels like him and Kyle aren't close anymore because he's too into DJing. Him and Sierra are also still have that flirty thing going on. West wants to not put any expectations on his friendship with Sierra and see what happens. And it seems like so does Sierra. The internet is telling Amanda to divorce Kyle. And now she's confused. But then Amanda, skinny dips and Kyle freaks the fuck out. Welcome home. If you ever take a road trip with like a group of friends and we're all like road trip and you're like, I'm going to not ride with you. I'm definitely going to be worried. If you mean there's a guy's car, there's a guy's car and a girl's car. Why do I want to sit with Jesse and Carl when I do it with my girls? So true. I'm always trying to be with those girls. There's no way right now you would do that. Right now. If we were going on a road trip, even just with work, right? And it was you Justin, Jack and Kyle in a car. And then it was me, Sierra, Mary and me. You would be like Natalie, you need to ride with me. You would make me be in there with all these stinky boys. I mean, you're stinky. Corruption, I wouldn't be with the boys in the first place. Yeah, Justin. I don't know. Justin would be with you all the time. I don't know. Justin would be in our car and it would be. Y'all can take Mary. Trayvon. Trayvon. Trayvon. Kyle. Kyle, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would say with Nick. I have no issue with Nick. Oh my God. Whoa. I think it was valid for girls' car. I think if Kyle had to drive alone, then that's not very nice. You're going to make him drive alone for two hours sitting traffic. But he's got his friends with him. Especially for the first episode where you're introducing two new women. And it's like they're all going to bond. And girl chat. It seemed like all he cared about was his DJ set. Anyways, he was like, Amanda, can you check my DJ set? Okay, cool. I just can't have it touching anything. She really, really said it when she was describing how his DJ career started. And he's like, it's not who it went down. It was 100% accurate. The way that she turned to see her, did I lie? Like, no. And then they replayed the clip and it's like, yes, you literally started this DJ career out of spite. Guys, we talked about it when he started the DJ career. And we were all like, is he for real that he's doing? Like, we talked about it even. I mean, you got to respect his follow through, like, you know, playing. It's like, yes and no, because the whole thing was that she wanted to start a bathing suit line because she didn't wanted her own thing outside of lover boy. And he was like, lover boy is our everything. We need to invent everything into it. And you're not committed. I can't have you distracted and not focused on lover boy. And look who's distracted now. I mean, it's just the reality. It's like, you want to again have grace for both parties. But if, like, if, let's say a man a colon to ask Nick and she was like, hey, I've been married for how many years? She's four years. Four five. I think she said four in the four. She said, they've been together for years. No, she said four long years. Four long years. That's what she said. Well, son, like, yeah, my husband, she's like, I'm ready for the next phase of my life, whatever that phase is, which is like generally just maybe a little slower, a little bit more, like, connecting as far as a couple. And she's like, yeah, no, my husband just started pursuing a DJ career. And now he's gone, you know, four nights away. The fact that he's, no, no, the fact that he said he had been gone. What did he say? Like, every night for the past 11 months or like, and then he was like, and she doesn't do anything. She doesn't even try when I'm here. And that pissed me off so bad because I was just like, all it says is that you get to do whatever you want. And now you expect Amanda to be the person to hold your relationship together, but you put zero effort. You get to go fly parties, stay out late, do whatever you want to do. And then make her feel like shit because she stays home. Not enough Netflix and chill. Okay. And then it's like, then you expect her to come home and be laying on the bed on Rose Petals being like, oh my god, I missed you so much. And you can tell that his frustration also has to do with the fact that he hasn't gotten laid in probably a long time. See, or do you remember like two seasons ago when they were looking for houses for their family to settle down in the suburbs and like look where we are now? Exactly. And that's what he made that whole thing about her not being committed to lover boy, not being a good worker. And that's why she can't have, like that, why they don't have a family yet is because she's not ready. And it looks like the only person who's not ready to settle down and have a family is the one who just announced his DJ tour at colleges. It is. That is crazy. He is like doing a tour of colleges. The college is like, that is not. You got to start somewhere. I'll give him a play. No, it's not even about the start. He did use in Las Vegas. He did use a pretty big. He was not. He moved up quickly. Yeah. And then he was like, you know, let's down great and hit on college girls while we get drunk. Yeah, that parts a little. Yeah. It's not. It's lifestyle. It's like when they met and when they got married, this wasn't like, that's a big, this wasn't a part of it. It was a car of being like, are you still happy? And he's like, I'm happy when I'm entertaining people and I press play. That's when you're happy. That's when you're happy. That's when you're happy. Yeah, the happiest. It is. And seeing how. It's tough to see his side. And seeing how he like kind of paints it towards it. He can't wait to bad mouth the manda behind her back to anybody who will listen instead of saying it to her face. And then gets mad when she responds the same way. No. So I fear him in the master bedroom. Clearly, no one's in there. He's talking to himself. No, Z's mic deaf. Oh my God. Another time when she makes me feel invisible and I'm not heard and she's making me feel like, it's like, you're doing like, well, he clearly thinks of himself as a bit of a victim in the situation. I am genuinely curious on, on, on, on why and how? Yeah, it's ever, ever think he wants. I have a question for you. You opened this conversation by asking, by saying that if Natalie didn't go in the car with you, that'd be weird, right? So I have a question. Every weekend, what Amanda wants to stay home and spend a Friday night in bed and Kyle decides to go partying with the boys and the other single women. What do you, what, what, I mean, I think that's crazy. I think honestly just being a husband, it's, it's, it's about you made a promise. You invest in that relationship. You make sacrifices. Sometimes the sacrifices may be, you know, you might want to do something else, but for the most time, it's not like a, I can't do this. Like you, I enjoy spending time with my wife and my kid and I enjoy the lifestyle that I, I have now. And even though I've never been a big part of your, like, you know, I still went out plenty in my 20s and early 30s and now like I am glad life has slowed down and it's not for, I guess everybody, but like I, I enjoy doing things for my wife and I enjoy the, you know, my love language is acts of service. Clearly, it's not Kyle's. I don't know what Kyle's love language is, but yeah, it, no, it blows my mind. I don't know how, I don't know how you make a relationship. Definitely not quality time. Definitely not physical touch. But he thought she'd Kyle like spin it because it was like the original spin with like lover boy and why he was out all the time. It's like, Hey, I have to talk to people. I have to get them invested in the product. I, I need to be the face. I need to be there. And then it's like, as everybody said this episode, it's like you found another career. Yeah. That could legitimize why you need to be out. But then to Amanda's point is that somebody's husband, that's a DJ goes out, does his job and then goes home. He just works out in check. He's just like, it's a job. And then Kyle's trying to be like, no, it's a lifestyle. And it's like, bro, it's a choice. And you're making. But the way you get so mad, we're seeing clips of the upcoming season where Kyle clearly feels misunderstood, not heard, not seen, not validated. And I'm, I'm curious why or is it just he is, is he that selfish? And really thinks that like a marriage is about, you know, my wife sacrificed. Suppordinates writing writing writing writing writing writing writing writing writing writing He's gonna be on a sign up list for one of those AI robots then him waking her up after going out That night and being like do you have an eye mask? Oh, yeah You did not just do you pack me I don't get up and look for one. I don't know like why are you asking me? You also sighed didn't he yeah? And go all right. Well fuck me then. Hey, or something Did you pack and I mask also this the when she took off her shirt and went in the pool? Yeah, oh when you got mad I was like, okay, this is like way just like I did you notice how Ben was the one to give her a towel when she was like I need a towel I need to sit there with his arms there is well. There's something going on between Ben and oh the way Oh my god. Did you see the way he like picked her up and like that was hot as fuck? Yeah, I Like give me a hot like but wait going back to this this nude or whatever she's an underwear Okay, and and she gets wet sometimes it's a little see through who gives a fuck But I'm also kind of like Kyle I've seen more of your body on the ten seasons of this show Like I've ever seen of Amanda's boobs. I've seen Lindsey hockers. You guys played like like strip Whatever that game is where you try to put the bean bag through the whole cornhole Like yeah, like it's like I've seen them all like you've seen each other's body So for you to sit there all of a sudden ten years in He had a little cowboy hat over his penis on his like 40th birthday And I'm like and you're gonna sit here and be precious about this. I was just like since when are we that like It's summer house Literally, okay wait hold on you guys. Yes, West in Sierra. Oh God, I know nothing to do with it. Oh my god She was on the Mary go They love each other do you want to know what I did what I I mean When they were interacting and it was positive and good and fun. I went Mary there's your next fan cam It's totally a West to see your fan cam. I mean whatever I guess if they're if they're really happy But they really put us through it the past couple seasons God forbid it's a slow bird West put us through it He puts Sierra through it and for a whole season she made him regret it and now she's like She's gonna send her some Yeah, yeah, just send her a You should I kind of think they're endgame you guys. I just saw West POV a little bit more, you know, I look was coming back for seconds No, I just I can't it doesn't seem like it's still his POV. I can't I can no it's all West fault and that's I'm Nice, um, can we get that on the cut down? Yeah Um when Jesse that is for the preview of what's coming up this season when Jesse's like hey like do you mind if I make out with Sierra and Westman is that what is that in the works? I was like Talk about acceleration. I hope Jesse, you know how Bailey was just talking about how like Jesse's a girls girl I I hope that that's like planted that Jesse's got this plan where he's gonna be like I'm gonna make West jealous No, he knows people were saying that he's filling the gap with page because he was in the bed on his phone Well, yeah, when she was saying right he's one of the girls I was like I love that the tallest guy in the group went to like fill the shoes of the smallest girl I love Jesse being one of the girls. This is a perfect arc for him. It's where he needs to be we need that He needs that he needs to just take a break for a minute. He said that last season He was like I'm not gonna mess with any girls Lexi You know, there's nothing I love more than like the will they won't they and the West and Sierra storyline has been that and this season feels like Okay, I'm emotionally ready. Yeah for this to be like last season. I would have been like Sierra Please know I think if they go into it being like all right, let's not put I think what what's really working for them right now They'll be civil and it seems like Sierra made a point to be like I don't really have any expectations and so did West And I think it's like if you're going into it without any expectations It's just gonna pop up and you cannot find and I think that's what they should and on what's what happens live They did a poll about wanting West and Sierra together and it was like astronomical Yes, and like she was down with it. There's nothing I love more than watching a man win a woman back Right, he has to work for it. Yeah, like watching the gravel Yeah, she thought that the animals were and like he was like oh that makes me happy makes me feel like this is home again And also shout out to West because I was like so cute when he was checking on KJ and it was his anxiety was like man like okay, if like if I check on you like do you like that and it was just like Oh, okay, I like Oh also KJ making me feel very confused is all I have to say That guy's hot and he's a he's a skater KJ all right And he's like I was like I've only ever been like around women I'm just like so in tune with women and I love to hang out. I'm a model. I lived in Europe like I have anxiety You do cry it is okay So cute No one's literally ever said that to me a man with anxiety love Everyone's like what's the fuck is wrong with you? Why don't you have any fun? Well, he's turning out it sad boys are normalized. You know what that reminded me of back to My um gummy um balcony DJ You're party your party of once you know what some of the worst by advice people get what Just be yourself Oh, I've never had that issue that's always great for me because like I'm so freaking sometimes Like I've tried to be myself and people are like no Well then you don't want to be around them sometimes I will know sometimes I do tell Nick like when we're going into family events Okay, be a little less you today Perform you got this which I'm fine to do and listen I really think I think the key of life of how I'm like I'm like in awe by him He's like wow, you know, and how are you to Tony? How was your surgery? How much that are you recovering? Okay, and I'm like my man This morning he did bring my sister coffee and a breakfast sandwich And didn't even like ask if she wanted it. He just was like Access service. I you know, but that's a thing who who always has a good personality I think I think the beauty of KJ and his anxiety is that he's just like very um He's very vulnerable and open about it. You could be you could be more like guys. I'm just I'm anxious right now right? Yeah, yeah, I tried that voice it. Yeah, why don't you have any fun? I'm really anxious right now I'm just having a little So I'm like I promise I'm having fun. I just I just I'm just saying sometimes being yourself Is the bad is bad advice? You know, and that's your ass Nick advice for the day Be yourself. I did have a question about summer house too. You can go first What was it like seeing a fellow bachelor alum on there and like would you if you were in the Maybe I will say like that that whole scene was I something I really it related to the whole like did you know he was on the Bachelor when those two like two people are talking about you to your face right and then it's a whole like Oh, but you were the bachelor and what was that like and you're trying to like and encouraging people not to watch your season Yeah, yeah, so I instantly thought of you because he was like no, it's not me like that and I was like I wonder if this is how like How do I get out of this conversation without like sounding like I'm like like you're trying to be like no Look at it. Yeah, you're like seriously Don't you you admit that you're feeling anxious that they're having Like what would I do the opposite of what right instincts are like George Kastanza my question when they got So when they for it's a two-order when they first arrived at the house and Sierra's car left The trunk open for people to grab the two cases two parts the first part of the question Would you grab those two cases if you were coming after and the second part? I do I do kind of wonder if Kyle got the short end of that stick because all the other guys didn't grab anything from the trunk But like the heat came on Kyle Kyle's married first of all so that is kind of told Sierra to like get her own bags kind of in a way They all know and I'm doing devil's out to get a little bit of sasuke because what was crazy about that whole thing was that he sat there Fights with Sierra about going and getting the stuff because hey, we've got five minutes until the torrential downpour And then everybody's going and taking care of and stuff And then you have him popping open a lover boy alone in the kitchen And I was just like you are just that guy like instead of just grabbing the shit for your wife and her friend It's like let's put up a whole thing to not do anything also are you sort of water? Kyle does not do what he doesn't want to do he is he gets nothing out of It's hard. I was gonna say it's hard for me to believe that Kyle can put someone else first You know what I mean like without seeing how it would take something away from him Whereas even with the Amanda thing support your wife she can have a passion project But it was like no you're taking time away from my company You shouldn't be doing that you shouldn't even want to do that. Yeah, he doesn't that doesn't seem to excite him like nothing excites me more Then sharing the spotlight with my wife for age of attraction Nothing excites me more than seeing her star rise and her looking good like yeah, I could give yeah, yeah Together not apart. Yeah, it's It's not the Kyle does not seem to get that same joy. No, no I don't think he's been very supportive of Amanda really with anything So that's why I'm like it's sad, but it's like the scariest part of a relationship ending is when people don't want to fight for it anymore You know when people get quieter like what she said I'm numb to it and I know I should feel something I know that this is bad But like I just don't react anymore when you saw Amanda you still like call him 500 times and like smashing his shit in the bathroom Because she's so upset that he's still not home and still out farting and this was five years ago Yeah, you know what I mean? So the idea that she's married and he's still doing this shit the the snapchat so sad that she's like I used to not like I couldn't fall asleep without him next to me and now she's like I just Knock out. It's like that I'm excited to see them both date. I hope it doesn't get ugly like Jesse in Michelle got on the valley I I worry I don't think it will I want them to stay friends. I think they do have a good yeah Amanda said that On watch what happens live when she was asked who's gonna date first She's like I probably me. So I'm assuming that like Amanda Amanda's not gonna it's because everyone is seeing how Kyle is as a partner and it's not the most intriguing even outside of the partner It's like you see what he's like after a night out that I like who's signing up for that sorry I feel like that's actually really harsh, but like it is when you see somebody get to a point where they're talking to themselves in the kitchen to their snacks Like have his options Unfortunately, yeah, and we'll see her on the next season of summer house. I mean Yeah, I would have grabbed the luggage. That's what I was trying to get at with that conversation nice And I think everybody here would too bring it back. All right. Well up next. We will I will just say one gripe Jesse Solomon Still hasn't answered my DM about the party fools She's trying to get on the list for a party at summer house and just so you know that was filmed last summer Well Well, and it is February you still hasn't responded all right Well, it's time to get into a little valley Persian style and up next a mere and Natasha join us to talk about this season Every group has someone who insists on doing things the hard way and that friend still paying for subscription They forgot they had the one refusing to update their phone because it still works I used to be that person too, especially when it came to overpaying for wireless then We made the switch to mint mobile and we're so glad that we did stop paying way too much for wireless Just because that's how it's always been meant exists purely to fix that same coverage same speed just without the inflated price tag The premium wireless you'd expect unlimited talk text and data but at a fraction of what others charge for a limited time Get 50% off three six or 12 month plans of unlimited premium wireless bring your own phone and number activate with a e-sim in minutes And start saving immediately no long-term contracts no hassle with a seven day money back guarantee a customer satisfaction rating in the mid 90s mint Makes it easy to try it and see why people don't go back listen You can't beat the prices and the service so grateful We made the switch because we stopped paying so much extra on wireless and data and got some great coverage in at the same time Ready to stop paying more than what you have to well new customers can make the switch today for a limited time Get unlimited premium wireless for just 15 bucks a month switch now it Mint mobile comm slash V I 8 L that's mint mobile comm slash V I a L L up front payment of $45 for three months $90 for six months and $180 for a 12 month plan required $15 a month equivalent taxes if he's extra initial plan term apply over 50 gigabytes may slow win network is busy capable devices required availability speeding coverage varies additional terms apply Seat mint mobile com well when it comes to my health I want products made by people who understand women's bodies parallel is the first obgy and founded vitamin Actual doctors who specialize in women's health created these formulas based on the latest research and their own clinical insights parallel is targeted nutrition for every stage of a woman's hormonal life menstrual health fertility pregnancy postpartum Parimenopause and daily wellness they have comprehensive vitamin packs doctor formulated routines and convenient daily packets Daily powders including protein electrolytes sleep support and greens powder all powders are safe for pregnancy and breastfeeding But designed for all life stages. 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Thanks for having us excited to have you We really have been enjoying you know this season of the valley Persian style It's been really fun to watch the whole group It's a it's a very dynamic group and you're giving us a lot of entertainment But we certainly have really been moved by obviously you guys and in the vulnerability you guys have shared this season Just talking about your marriage and how you guys stay connected and and how you guys even discuss You know sensitive topics like loss and things like that. So first of all, I just want to say I appreciate you guys for For being so vulnerable on on television Opening up this very interesting and sometimes uncomfortable conversation, but we really appreciate it Thank you. That's that's nice to hear we're just You know, we're new to this so we don't know What is good? What's not good? We just kind of just doing the best we can so far for sure curious like going into filming this what conversations you do guys have as a couple About the possibility of addressing this story and talking about it because obviously It's very personal, you know, very difficult. I'm sure to talk about it at times And then you just invite you know outside opinions and outside of things are already difficult when it's just I'm talking about your new haircut You know let along you know something as personal as about what you guys have gone through yeah, I think uh You know, we knew it was a possibility Although when it started I figured okay like I'm just gonna be the husband in the background You know Helping with the kids and this is gonna be drama amongst the girls and then low and behold here We are sort of digging into it and as you watch the show you sort of are realizing that this isn't something that we generally dig into And we're figuring it out doing the show helped us to address this topic specifically That we were Too busy to address or maybe we were hiding behind the fact that we had all these kids and we're like I will just shelve it and not kind of deal with it And we decided you know as It was starting to unfold at least me. I was like If I'm gonna talk about this. I'm not gonna have acid. I'm just gonna You know really just dive into it and it is what it is. I'm not gonna be ashamed of whatever my feelings are And I really genuinely care about Natasha and I want to hear what she has to say And that's okay if it's not great. I'm scared by it, but I'll listen to it You know, and if it's if everybody's gonna hear about it everybody's gonna hear about it Um, but I don't know how she felt like I was when we I didn't see some of her scenes. Sure. So watching that back Was very emotional for me because I was like you know sort of not that did what did I make a mistake? Kind of like making this Storyline I guess you would say, but it's kind of hurting her and it made me feel sat You know that she was having those feelings and that I wasn't there to be able to be like no, no, no Don't feel that you know or not that I should say that, but just I felt bad understand. Yeah. How about you Natasha? I mean we like moved really fast in our relationship. We met we Got engaged six months later. We got pregnant like a month after we got engaged So we just kind of like it was like You know just fast paced and we didn't really have time to like sit in Really talk about this topic. I mean of course like when I first started dating him I was like asking like how he feels about that and like um where he's at Like if he's ready to take the next step with someone else, you know like obviously we had those conversations and um I was ready But you know like I said we just moved so fast. So it was It's not something that I was like sitting there dwelling on and then we It came up, you know within our friend group and my topic and so Then it just like opened it up again and I'm like wait like There are these feelings that you know I've had but like I just kind of like put Because we got married had kids back to back to back like we just don't have time to like sit and think about that But you know, it was just it was in the medium and all that like it just kind of was like oh wait like we actually never really You know got to the bottom of this and like how do you feel about that and how How are you feeling like every day and so it was It was nice actually to you know for sure That makes a lot of sense when hearing you guys talk I mean now and I have talked about this and in our marriage But I think for for married couples. I think sometimes you know, it's just like the you know comfort Not necessarily complacency, but like you know, it's interesting who you talk Natasha about when you guys first started dating And obviously this was a topic you guys talked about but your questions in your point of view That you're coming from a month in your into your relationship Probably aren't the same a year and a half later when you're pregnant, you know You're very much together now there's love there and it would make sense to maybe revisit that conversation But sometimes I think in a relationship. I don't know you just got to get comfortable with not bringing You know, you don't want to rock the boat you don't want to say something and so it's kind of like a lot I think a lot of couples experience this you almost like let the silence Just kind of can be consistent sometimes and I think as couples we take for granted the importance of like checking in With each other or revisit a conversation that maybe you had in the past But now that your current situation is different It might mean you need to be revisited whatever that situation is so it's makes a lot of sense and kind of Fascinating to hear you guys talk about it from that perspective. Yeah, I think like that underlying um It's I don't want to say uncomfortable, but like it's just out there lingering and we choose to kind of keep it Like suffer through the date like all these days rather than just take the bandaid off And now having done it it was like we could have this would have been we could have cut this out much earlier like this um unspoken sort of Under the rug thing that we were Avoiding out of fear that it would change things or I mean we were we were already like she was pregnant We were married like there's no going back. So it's like what's the point? But at the same time I feel like our relationship is better because of this Like therapy definitely went through on TV. Well, that's great to hear I mean often we hear how reality TV can can negatively impact couples So it's always exciting and Nice to hear stories where you know these situations will you know encourage or not necessarily force But yeah, provide a space for people to to get the word out and I I imagine you've heard from fans of people who have connected with your story Who have experienced some kind of loss that appreciate you guys opening up absolutely both of us I mean I get messengers all the time like my lost my husband I lost my wife Some of them are early in the grief journey some are further along, but they're just like thank you for representing the widows and widowers And for sharing your story. I have some hope some of them are asking for advice But I feel like Natasha gets a lot of messages to about being the person who's supporting yeah Um the the widower or widow Do you got messages right? Yeah a lot that we're like wow like I'm you know, so it's it's just It Helps to see that This like different view that I have because I'm like, you know, it's not she's not here anymore to it's not like it's an ex You know, so it's not someone that's like oh, you know like are they like texting or or does she does he think about like getting back with her or something It's not you know, she's not here anymore and it's not it's so different than like a break up. So Um, yeah, I've just had a lot of people were like like how does it feel to be you know second choice or whatever like I just I don't know how to feel about that and I'm like I don't think it should be seen that way I think like you are you know his choice now and I think like um, you know that of course the previous wife who um You know has she passed from cancer and like it's it's so devastating But like he has this teacher to look forward to and I think that's something worth celebrating as well. So I just feel like yeah Well said yeah, I mean as we know loss Loss affects us all at at various points in our life and and it is always important to move forward And it's great to see you guys do that in such a beautiful way um I'm curious that scene from last episode where where gg and sky really got How is it for you guys being there? Was it as intense and are you guys is personally offended by sky not living it wanting to live in the valley? Yeah, it was it was intense. I felt like It was it was unreal for a minute because I just if you noticed I'm like eating the whole time sort of like For a second, I was like Should I should I jump in here and then I was like no, I'm gonna let them sort of figure this out And I just want some of my food but it was When she got up and like you know because when you're filming to have these bright lights And it just kind of looked unreal for a second was as she was like standing over her And this was all I was I couldn't believe it. I was like what is happening Yeah, that's also on the other side of the table. I honestly missed the whole first half of that I was having a conversation me and tennine we're talking and then all of a sudden we hear people like Their voices raising we're like wait what's happening over here and then and then go on as it gets up and we're like wait Which is happening so like I had to get kind of a recap but Yeah, it was it was definitely Pretty intense I I was in the middle of it, but I was just more like You know sort of just looking back and forth. It was I mean I I wasn't like I don't care about What she said about the valley? It's just like it doesn't bother me her thoughts but there was just so much that led up to that moment and Everybody kind of had feeling oh there was That's the that's the straw. Yeah, right? So I think there's a lot more underneath the surface with Within the relationships, but that was sort of the catalyst that blew this up. Yeah, I mean if she is on like the valley like I you know I don't like you know I don't want to live in the Westside so I get it It's fine. I guess I people Who are from the valley who were born and raised in the valley? It could be offensive when you're constantly saying like oh this and that like the valley's like the food Like everything sucks and it's like okay, come on. So but I mean me personally. I'm not from here So I love the valley, but I'm from the Bay Area So I'm not like personally offended. There is an air one in the valley. So yeah, have you get to sportsman's? We live by alvash's wine. It's like five minutes up the road. So That's the only place that is worth eating at The best restaurant in LA is there one? Yeah, I mean we had Reza on a couple weeks ago And he kind of elaborated on on his point of view when it comes to sky But it sounds like you guys share his sentiment where it's like you know Sounds like she just gives that like a little bit. I'm better than everyone. I'm better than you and just hyper critical I guess of everyone but herself at least that's kind of how Reza put it I think she wants to feel better than everybody and that's probably why she says those things. Yeah, right? It's not even about us. That's more about where She is trying to position herself or at least in her mind make herself feel like she's above everyone We're a little bit more easy going as you can see while you're watching the show We're not like sort of in the throws but she's definitely making comments and putting people down in the group And the group especially a Persian group doesn't like to be Talked down to yeah Oh whose storyline are you most shocked by watching? Probably sky right yeah, I would say sky again. I was so Shocked when that went down. I didn't even know she had that in her. Oh Yeah, the with the tissues you know the tissue drop. Yeah drop her around the world Any other questions for me or Natasha? I think so it's been so fun to watch you guys and we're excited to Continue watching else journey on on the valley. Thank you. Thanks for having us. We appreciate the The support you guys saying nice things to us makes us feel better about At least me feel better about crying on TV Well, we really enjoy watching you guys and you guys have a special thing going and again It's not easy to be vulnerable and it's not easy to share personal stuff But I think what you guys say goes a long way and it's been fun to watch you guys and we're excited to see more of you guys So thanks for taking the time best of luck the rest of the season and Get some rest Thank you. All right, take care guys Well, and if you missed the most recent episode of the valley Persian style We do have a rapid recap so we pick back up in Palm Springs after Dennis the men is crashed the party It's a struggle, but they power through and shake their asses. Everyone is like okay I guess Dennis is here now and we're all gonna be nice to him except GG Then Dennis says GG is nothing and has made nothing and they're off again Adam thinks GG needs to set boundaries with him Then they race cars MJ won't drive because she's afraid of death RJ lost control and skidded the car But he's okay because he's gonna hook up with a hot waitress named Courtney to make GG jealous Adam did GG's dirty work and kicks Dennis out of the house Reset is over sky in her hatred for the valley GG is like girl. You're on a show called the valley right now also skies obsessed with air one But she doesn't think she's not be resolapsed in her face at this admittance GG snaps on her then sky calls GG a piece of shit that is beneath her I'm sure GG will take this very calmly. I mean, I don't want to like Like clearly this guy seemed wrong But like why can't she can't she does not like the valley Thank you strikes a chord. Thank you This this strikes a specific chord for me growing up in Los Angeles Danny grew up in the valley and I will say there is a thing about the valley that like people used to like You live so far the valley so far. I don't want to go to the valley like I'm here I'm sure we know L.A. and I'm sure of it But I feel like the valley has really upped its game over the past say 10 years. We just got a great white Even John and Vinnie's I just wonder for breakfast amazing breakfast And I think you know, I think compared to other parts of L.A. maybe 10 or 15 years ago the valley was easily maybe the The butt of jokes. Yeah, cuz maybe maybe they the Like glamorous, but like it's really up this game. I always been like the suburbs But it was always kind of like oh if you can't afford to live on that side of the hill you go and live in the valley Where I'm like I'm sorry the real estate and the valley now is surpassing should on the other side And at least you get free parking am I the only one who calls it the valley in the city? Oh, yeah, I call this city like downtown. I'll I maybe I think about the valley is lay out I disagree with you I think that when people live in the valley You can't get them out of the valley sometimes Cuz I don't know now that I live in the valley It's like now that I'm driving to the valley outside of work And I'm not getting a $80 ticket for being 10 Set five minutes past my time on my meter because I went to your house Okay, do you know how many street cleaning tickets I got when I lived in the city? I am the part of the hill Sorry, I have a parking space at my apartment No, the valley is awesome And I didn't realize it until I moved here and I lived here and now everybody better come to me Mary you're you're rooting for the side of the city that gave me a parking ticket for cleaning the street with When the city was on fire I'm not that side of As someone who's gonna convert to the valley Yep, I know I will never see the pros and cons I refuse I'm not gonna retire to the valley just yet so many pros I will say I do actually kind of like sky I think she should have known the room and she was being pretentious in the moment But I like her I like what she's wearing I think she just needs to work on the delivery Well also just listen There are people who just make better and smarter choices than others Yeah, it's okay In life Life's a journey of choices If you think that you are one of those people who makes better choices You just can't be the one You can't be your biggest cheerleader Better choices in regards to what? Anything Life decision making Business decisions I like it's sky I like it Where sky really lost me Tannen's version of the Joey conversation Where Tannen's like Supporting her friend Buying her jewelry Buying tons of jewelry And then skies like I'm giving you so many discounts That's it That's why I said delivery Because like even the skincare, skin oil thing Where it's like I'm a skincare holic I wouldn't do that with over-priced oil oils But I'm also like she kind of rubbed it on her dog when her friend wasn't there You know like I think she was like it's nice I'm putting it on my dog I think it's also partially just like even the need to feel better than people Because I need to buy a house and Beverly Hills Or Bel Air Where it's like your husband is literally sitting next to you saying It's not a good decision right now Which means you don't Financially that's not a smart move for you to do But it's like instead It's like I need everybody to know I just want a bigger house and a different zip code not in the valley And it's like even a bigger house in Bel Air Is going to be astronomically more than the house that you have in the valley An apartment in Bel Air Thank you like an apartment in Bel Air Thank you So that's why I was like it's it's the tone deafness for me No that's why I said like no the room Because like I do like sky but I think she's saying things around people that are like there's no way for it to not be offensive Also justice for Trader Joe's But she's literally what she say when a Trader Joe's catch a story I'm just saying nobody mentioned that when they were going to be Like Ralph's fun she was talking about airwaters like 10 steps below airwaters. There's galsons. Yeah, there's I was like now it is in today's economy grocery is expensive everywhere. Yeah, exactly So my my thing about sky is like there's a way to playfully make fun of the valley She's not making fun and she's not making fun. She genuinely hates it Like I love to make yeah like I love to make fun of the valley because I just down She wants to be up high looking down on that She didn't say the tissue thing and I was like yeah I love to make fun of the valley But just because like I think it's funny even though if no one else does but like for her To like hear any weird hate. I know that's the funny thing. I'm here all the time is why I do it But it's like for her it's like girl. You're on a show called the valley and went who didn't GD say that yeah I just I love the fact that sky is like GG you can't smoke here and then she's like I'm gonna go smoke with you Like I think that's just like this is TV gold for me But yeah, it was a lot of fun to watch Also Yeah big fan of Amir and Natasha Yeah, I like that. I think that'll do it for today's episode. Thank you to our guest Amir and Natasha as well as Bayley Taylor also don't forget if you want to check us out live on May 6 Myself my lovely wife in the cast of the upcoming season of temptation island It's gonna be scandalous wacky wild and fun and live and you can get tickets now Get them while they're available Go to our link in bio on our show description or just like our Instagram or something like that. Oh my god Natalie you're gonna be so pregnant by then. Whoa. Yeah Temptation island They're gonna be doing body shots off of each other and I like just gonna be like yeah Off and I like my belly button is super out. Yeah Did you think I'll bring a pregnant person on temptation island? That's crazy No, it's it is crazy It is temptation island. I'm sorry. I'm just saying that's an interesting car car car All right, well we will see you next week. Bye bye