Go Birds! Daily, Feb. 27th: AJ Brown’s agent talking to teams about trade; 9 safeties for Eagles to sign

What's good, y'all? It's Vaughn Miller, Super Bowl MVP, SAG Master, and now your host of Free Range. This is where NFL meets real talk. Every week, I'm bringing you inside the game, from locker room stories to league-wide headlines. You want football IQ, locker room insight, and real conversations with the people shaping the league? Welcome to Free Range with Vaughn Miller, where nothing is off limits and every down counts. New episodes every Wednesday. Listen and follow Free Range with me, Vaughn Miller, wherever you get your podcasts. Go Birds! February only has 28 days. Like I know, obviously, it's always been like that, but it just is kind of weird to think that they decided one day should have less months and they pick the second month. I'd be curious to know why that happened, actually, now that I think out loud about this. I mean, why not pick the first or the last month? And then there's leap years, too. It's just as weird to pick the second one. I feel like if you know going into a year, you need one month to have fewer days. Why not pick the last one? Why is February got to get punished? but regardless I hope you all are ready to enjoy your weekend that was probably an all-time random rant to to start the GoBirds pod but we don't have much more time for rants because we got a lot to get into today as always as the AJ turns there's more news coming out on Thursday was a big actually big day for news with the AJ Brown saga saga as we got to update a report on what's been happening in Indianapolis. Howie talked to Mike Florio, gave some interesting quotes. And then we're going to continue our free agency preview with a look at the safeties. And if there's any position the Eagles are going to spend money at in free agency, I think safety is that position. I don't think they're going to sign a big time free agent receiver. I guess AJ could change that a little bit. I don't think you'll see them spend big at offensive line. I think you probably won't see them spend that big at tight end. Obviously not linebacker. Jalen Phillips will qualify spending big, but that's their own guy. I'm not sure if that would count. So I think safety is the spot where you could see them add a player for a lot of money at the position. So we got nine safeties I want to talk about with you that I think would make sense for the Eagles to pursue. So let's get right into it because February is short. February is almost over. So let's start with a bit of a report that came out on Thursday. Not a shocking report, but it's probably the beginning of N'Kobe's time with the Eagles ending. Clarence Hill Jr. of All City Dallas has covered the Cowboys since 97, a name I see all the time covering the Cowboys, does an awesome job, tweeted out on Thursday, quote, look for the Cowboys to pursue Eagles linebacker N'Kobe Dean in free agency. He knows Christian Parker's scheme, end quote. So I think, you know, when we talked last week or earlier this week about when Howie talked about the fact they're not going to be able to resign all their free agents. They're going to have to make tough decisions. It felt like he was talking about N'Kobe. Now, the only way I think N'Kobe could come back is if his market just completely craters. Even then, I think they're going to want Jihad Campbell to play. So even then, I'm not sure they would bring N'Kobe back. But if there's going to be a market for N'Kobe, then he's as good as gone. And it's going to sting watching N'Kobe play for the Dallas Cowboys. Eagles fans know how much he does for the team, how much he does for the team on the field and in the locker room. He's a leader of the Georgia players. He adds a toughness to the defense, and he'll be missed if he leaves, for sure. And I'll also say from a personal level, like N'Kobe, it'll be nice to see him cash in a big check. Fell in the draft, which cost him money. Has had some injury concerns, obviously, throughout his career, some major injuries. So for him to cash in would be, just personally, you would feel really good for him. but it would be a loss, no question. And it would be a gain for the Cowboys. Like he'll add a toughness to that Cowboys defense. It'll help Christian Parker build his defense over there in Dallas. We know that the Dallas offense isn't the problem. It's the defense that has struggled at times. If they get a good defense in Dallas and Dak and George Pickens and CeeDee Lamb, and like they play well, the Cowboys will compete for the division. So definitely would be a big loss if N'Kobe goes to Dallas. And then, you know, we'll talk about the safeties here, but Reed Blankenship makes a ton of sense to go there as well. You would think that Christian Parker would want him to go there. I know they have safeties there, but he knows how Christian Parker likes to run his secondary. He's a free agent. So, you know, getting to Kobe and Reed is kind of the, you know, parts of the backbone, like the spine of that defense would be big. And so as free agency begins in a week, a week and a half, yeah, like a week and a half, I'll keep an eye out obviously for N'Kobe and Reed ending up in Dallas, which is obviously going to sting. What else is going to sting is what feels like impending notification that AJ Brown has been traded. And it feels like it is certainly leaning that way. So Diana Rossini of the Scoops podcast or Scoop City podcast for The Athletic, who has just, you guys can all pretend to hate her, harass her online, which is obviously messed up, but she has clearly been all over this AJ thing from day one. So Diana Rossini was talking recently about the AJ Brown situation and reported a new nugget that nobody knew, which is that AJ Brown's agent has been meeting with teams at the combine to see if they want to trade for his client, his client being AJ. So here's what Diana Rossini had to say. Just the way Max Crosby's agents and teams are talking about that that's the same thing that's happening here so jimmy sexon his rep is meeting with different teams to just get a feel for who's interested what this would look like i think there's been a lot of conversations that have been happening over the last few weeks so i don't truly know the difference between like well i should take that back i do know the difference like clearly aj has been given permission to seek a trade there is no way this would be public if the eagles were unaware of it and honestly i don't even think the agent would do it without the Eagles permission. So obviously the Eagles are okay with the agent doing this. The agent is going around trying to see what teams will trade for his client and trying to see what teams will pay his client. And at the end of the week, the Eagles will get all this information or early next week or whatever, and they'll make a decision. And I think the decision is going to end in them trading AJ. But the fact that the agent is meeting with other teams tells you that this is really real and that there is a very real chance that AJ will be traded. Me and James talked about it on the pod on Thursday. AJ wants, I mean, James wants AJ gone. I'm not in that camp yet. I think losing AJ is going to be a much bigger loss than people make it out to be. I hear a lot of, well, the passing game wasn't that good last year. Yeah. Now imagine it without AJ. And I know Devontae had a great year. Devontae has never been a number one receiver. He's never had to deal with the coverages that AJ deals with. And not to discredit Devontae, I'm truly not trying to do that, but like Devontae's job is easier because AJ is out on the field. I think even he would tell you that, right? So if they lose AJ, it's a big, big loss for this team. It's a big loss in how teams play them. It's a big loss in not having a true number one receiver. And everybody's like, well, if he doesn want to be here he should leave I get that And I get like I truly do understand that thought that if he not happy here it bad for the vibes You got to move on Like I get it but man replacing AJ is going to be much much tougher than people think Now how he a great GM, he could possibly do it. Maybe this is the time to cash in on AJ when they trade AJ and we talk about it. Like there will be some positives. They will likely get a really good asset back. they'll save a ton of cash which they can use to do other things but A.J. Brown his arrival to a certain degree started this run right 2021 they were a fine a fine team they get A.J. Brown in 2022 they go to the Super Bowl um and obviously Saquon has played a big part in winning the Super Bowl and Jalen and the defense and all those things but A.J.'s arrival started this run of dominant Eagles football and when he leaves it will not be easy to replace him so I think they a aj's agent is going to find the teams are interested i think the eagles will set a high price and i think a team will come close to matching that price maybe it'll involve a player a pick and a player but i think you're going to see aj likely traded and this is this is again i hate to always use this analogy but like if this was happening with a player that eagles fans wanted like let's say max crosby and you know diana russini mentions him in there everyone thinks that Max Crosby can be had via trade. Everyone thinks Max Crosby is open to being traded. It's only with the AJ that you get denial from some fans because they don't want him traded. And I get that, right? Like he's been an awesome player, but it's very obvious AJ is open to being traded and leaving the Eagles. It's obvious the Eagles are open to trading AJ Brown. And it's obvious the agent is looking for a new landing spot for AJ, which will likely include a new contract. Now, another Diana Rossini thing, and we won't play it because it's not great audio. But she was on part in my take and was asked essentially to kind of rate different teams AJ would go to based off emojis, which you know I love, right? Like love myself a good emoji. So basically she went through a bunch of teams and said no to a few, yes to a couple. And the common theme was she said AJ wants to play with a great quarterback. Read into that what you will, what AJ thinks, not what you think, not what I think. What Diana Rossini is being told is important to AJ is clear why he does not want to be in Philadelphia if he is traded. It's clear. All right. So Howie Roseman was doing just the masterclass work how he does in Indianapolis, where he has been trying to convince everybody they're not going to trade AJ Brown while the agent meets with teams about trading AJ Brown. So he was on Pro Football Talk. It was asked by Mike Florio flat out where he'll be trading AJ to. And here is the full soundbite of that. Who are you trading AJ Brown to? Excuse me? Who are you trading AJ Brown to? Yeah. You know, I think that when we talk about getting back to a Super Bowl and winning a championship, that's really a great credit to the amount of players we have who can play at an incredibly high level. And AJ is one of those guys. AJ is a great player. And I think that when we talked to Sean and talked about his system, his vision for AJ is a huge part of that. And, you know, we got to get better and you don't get better by just sacrificing great players. And so I think we look forward to improving and to adding out. So a funny question is someone that asked questions in interviews, like a short, quick question does get the best responses. You don't give the person time to think like often when you hear Howie like joke around at the podium, I think it's because he's stalling to figure out what he needs to say. And you can hear him there. He kind of jokes, right? Like the excuse me thing, like he's thinking, right? But what I think was noteworthy in here was he says, when we talked to Sean Mannion about his system, his vision for AJ was a huge part of that. So here's what doesn't really add up to me, right? If Sean Mannion thinks AJ is a huge part of his system, then how do you then justify trading him for a second round pick? And again, like they'll save cash and they'll make the argument. And I do think everything Howie is saying right now is trying to convince people they won't trade AJ. But that's a pretty specific detail on how important AJ is to them. So if you're Sean Mannion and you came to this team, now I'm sure Mannion had an idea of what was going to happen with AJ, but you came to this team and presented this thing of what you were thinking and included AJ and then he's gone, that's a big blow. And they'll try to replace AJ for sure. They're not going to go into next season with Darius Cooper and Devante, right? They're going to add somebody. They're going to draft somebody. They'll probably trade for somebody. They'll go out and they will try to get guys to replace AJ. But it is an interesting nugget. As much as I think they will trade AJ, that thing right there is a convincing point by Howie. The system and the vision Sean Mannion has, AJ is a big part of that. So good job by Howie creating the narrative they might not trade him. But I think that's noteworthy that if he's truly a big part of what uh sean manion envisions is that worth trading a second round pick for so the other question uh was about you know uh is he gonna be he was asked how he was asked flat out is he gonna be on the team if someone calls are you gonna hang up the phone and here's what how he had to say had to say when he was asked that is he gonna be on the team you know i said this is it is it off two minutes ago i mean is it is it like somebody calls up you're going to hang up the phone. I would never do that about anything. I feel like part of our job as a general manager in the National Football League is to listen, to listen to what people are willing to do. So props to Howie for staying on message. He's probably been asked this question 12 different times nationally and has answered it quite literally almost the same way every single time. We're in the market of keeping great players. You don't get better by subtracting, but my job as a GM is to listen. So what he's telling everybody is, yeah, he's great. We love them, but the phone is open, right? So call if you're going to make this offer. And I think the Eagles are making it known, like call now and we'll figure this out. That's why I think the AJ thing will happen soon. But here's what I'd say too. Like I get his point, but I don't think he would listen to offers for Quinn Young. I don't think he would listen to offers for Cooper DeGene. If a team called and how he, how he like listened to an offer, I think that gets out and it's a creates a narrative like the Eagles are listening to offers for Quinn Young. The Eagles are listening to offers for Cooper DeGene. You don't ever hear, and now a team would not call and ask about Quinn Young because they know what the answer would be. But if a team calls and asks for a player, I think Howie would say, no, we're not trading him. I don't think he would say, well, what would your offer be? I think he would say, no, we're not trading him. Because what if the guy does say three first round picks? Like, are you truly going to consider it? I don't think they would trade certain players. So I get his point, but I think that he is basically saying I'm listening for AJ. Because I don't think he would say I would listen to an offer for any player. I just don't think if I asked him at a press conference, are you willing to listen to offers for Quinion Mitchell? What would he say? And I think he would say we're going to listen for all players just to prove his point. But I don't think he would realistically listen to offers for Quinion Mitchell or Cooper Dejean. So this is where we land. And this is, you know, recapping everything that happened on Thursday. Like the agent's talking to people, how he's willing to listen to offers. All the decision makers in the NFL are in Indianapolis. They're all meeting with each other. They're getting all types of information. And I think next week you will see AJ traded. And I think it'll probably be to the Patriots. Like Mike Vrabel was asked in a sit-down interview. And first of all he talked at the podium at length about how much he likes AJ But in a sit interview he was asked about you know trying to trade for AJ and he was essentially like yeah we going to explore a bunch of things So this is where this is going And when he traded I know there will be some fans that will rejoice, but I think everyone should not be rooting for this. Like they will, they will struggle to replace AJ and it's going to make it harder on offense than it was with AJ. Like, look, could they go out and get Brian Thomas Jr., Marvin Harrison Jr., Mike Evans for a year? Sure, they could go out and try, but it's going to be tough. And I think when you're wrapped up in the middle of it and the drama and you're focusing on certain things, it's easy to say, okay, get them out of here. When they don't have them next year, it could be a big time loss. So we will see as the AJ turns what happens next. All right. On the other side, let's talk about a position, I think, where the Eagles could truly add somebody of value and truly spend some big-time money at the position. So we're going to take a look at the safety position and some things they could do. So that'll be on the other side. But first, a word from our sponsors. Hey, this is Richard Deitch, the host of the Sports Media Podcast. If you're interested in what's happening with all the places where you consume sports, the Sports Media Podcast has you covered. I've been turning down interviews all week. Cotacopi reached out, Oprah, George Stephanopoulos. So I said, no, I was booked on the Deitch podcast before the Taylor Swift phenomenon. I must live up to my responsibility. Listen wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, let's get into the position I think the Eagles could spend the most money on in free agency. And again, not including Jalen Phillips because Jalen Phillips is one of their own players. But if the Eagles are going to make a splash in free agency, if they're going to go and sign a player where people are like, wow, I'm surprised they spent that much, I think it'll be at safety. You look at receiver, we know A.J. Brown's future is up in the air, but I think they're more likely to trade for a receiver than they are to make a big splash. Romeo Dobbs, potentially, but I think it's more likely they trade for a receiver. We've been through the positions. I don't think they're going to spend a lot of money out there. In fact, they think they won't be very active in free agency, but they do have a need at safety, like a legitimate big time need at safety. So last year, we know they wanted to start Reed and Makuba. Makuba plays about half the year, suffers a foot injury, misses the rest of the year. And he was OK out there. He made some big plays. Obviously, his big play against the Chiefs. But I also think he was out of position a lot. He allowed some big catches. So he made rookie mistakes. Right. And we'll see next year what he is. I think he's going to go into camp with one of the starting jobs, and I don't think he's a guarantee to keep it, but I think he will go into camp with one of the starting jobs. So they have Makuba under contract, likely going to be one of the starters. Sidney Brown under contract, not going to be a starter. No shot they're going to start him. It's pretty clear how big Fangio feels about him. Maybe he makes the team as a special teams guy, but frankly, he's even a little reckless there. Like he's cost them there too. So I think he'll either be traded or he will be fighting for a job in training camp. And then they have two guys on practice squad, Andre Sam and Brandon Johnson. Andre Sam been on the team for a few years, has been unable to break through. No shame in it. He's making hundreds of thousands of dollars. Props to him for being an NFL player. But I think he is likely a practice squad player with the Eagles or a bottom of the roster safety. I don't think he'll be starting. And then the interesting one is Brandon Johnson, rookie last year. I think they liked him. They promoted him at the end of the year. So he could potentially compete for that third safety spot, But I don't think they'll go into next year with Brandon Johnson and Makuba as their starting safeties. Now, part of the reason we've not said this name yet is because he's a free agent. As you know, Reed Blankenship, a free agent. And Marcus Epps, the two players that started for them at the end of the year, both free agents. So even if they are optimistic about Makuba, they need to add somebody. You could draft a safety in the first round, second round, and maybe they're good enough to start. but I think there is real argument for going out and signing a legit safety. You have Quinion, you have Cooper, you feel really good about two of your corners. Obviously, I know you'll work on cornerback too, but I think adding a premium safety could be worth the money. I just think it'd be a smart thing to do. And the good news is, while I think it's a pretty weak free agency class overall, I do think it is a good safety class. And there are three, really four, maybe five guys that I think would be really good options. Not starting right away. Three of them, definitely, you could start right away. But I think there's some interesting options at safety. So let's get into some of the players I think make sense for the Eagles. And let's talk about who's probably going to be the top safety on the board if he hits free agency. Kobe Bryant, even wears number eight for Seattle. So we'll be 27 in March, 6-1, fourth round pick in 2022. Now he plays free safety. He does not really go into the box. He doesn't really line up at slot. And as we talk about these guys, position versatility will be key, obviously, because you want to be able to move the guys around. Like Reed Blankenship played predominantly at free safety, but he had almost 200 snaps in the box. Andrew Makuba, similar thing, almost 200 snaps in the box. And also worth noting, Makuba, I think, can go up to the line and play man coverage. Now, Cooper being such an awesome nickel corner is part of that. I think Makuba actually size-wise doesn't project that way. Cooper's big and is able to withstand playing in the box. but I think skill set wise, Makuba could be a good nickel corner. He can play man coverage. He's a physical guy. He's a good tackler, or at least I thought last year showed he had the chance to be a good tackler. I know he struggled with tackling in college, but regardless, you want guys that can move all around. That's the only flaw with Kobe Bryant. Now, maybe he could do it, he just wasn't asked to do it in Seattle, but he didn't spend much time in the box. But still, a guy that has started 34 games in four years, 26 of them the last two years, seven interceptions the last two seasons, as well as two forced fumbles. He makes big plays for the big play turnover. I'm going with the dynamite emoji. In fact, I actually, I put fireworks in, but this showed up and I feel like it's cooler than fireworks. So Kobe Bryant gets the money bag emoji because he looks like he's going to get like $14 million a year. And he gets the dynamite emoji because he makes big plays. So he is someone that if you sign, you could put next to Makuba And like he is starting week one, snap one, playing every single snap on the defense. But you're gonna have to pay for him at $14 million a year. And I think it's worth noting the Eagles have been in on some big safeties. They tried to sign Xavier McKinney. Like they've been willing to spend at the safety position. They just haven't been able to complete a deal. So again, would not shock me if they spent big at safety. So Kobe Bryant gets the money emoji and the dynamite emoji. Two emoji player. the next guy is a four emoji player and that's Jaquan Brisker from Chicago will be 27 in April so still relatively young doesn't get the baby emoji maybe should I'm not going to put it there 6-1 second round pick in 2022 so he has draft pedigree he can truly play all three spots 500 plus snaps at free safety last year 100 plus snaps in the slot and 400 plus snaps in the box he can lineup all over the field. He's done it. He's shown he can do it. 52 starts in four seasons. Has been really healthy outside of a concern, which is he's had concussion issues. He's had three concussions in his career. He missed 12 games in 2024 with a concussion. Obviously, his health is priority number one, but that is definitely something that you consider when you are signing him. But he's been awesome when he's played. He has an interception every season. He He has four forced fumbles in four seasons, seven sacks, so he goes after the quarterback. And you can tell that by the fact that he lines up all over the field Now he projected according to Spotrak to get million a year annually So he be expensive But you know at his age and you taking a risk with the concussions which will impact his price. But the versatility emoji, the dynamite emoji makes plays, going to cost money. But the ambulance emoji as well, as he does have injury concerns. Now, this one might be my favorite. Like, I like Brisker a lot. Kobe Bryant would be a cool signing. Cameron Curl from the Rams. I think would be a big time signing for this team. He'll be 27 in March. He's 6'2". He plays all three spots. Almost 800 snaps at free safety. Almost 400 snaps in the box. And over 130 snaps in the slot. So you can put him wherever. 86 starts in his career. Five interceptions in six seasons isn't noteworthy. But he just doesn't do a great job with it. Because in six seasons, four of them, he hasn't had an interception. so he's not a he doesn't force turnovers but four first fumbles over the last three seasons so he does punch at the ball which I know Nick will like and Vic Fangio will like so I like the size I like the versatility I like the experience I like that he punches at the football I think he'd be a good signing and the age the age fits for a guy that could be your starting safety for the next few years so he gets the versatility emoji the money bag emoji at 10 million dollars a year is what Spotrax projecting in the star emoji because he's one of my favorite prospects at the night prospect one of my favorite free agents at the position all right now we're going to get to guys that are probably not as well known but I think could make sense for the team Jalen Thompson from Arizona so first of all he's coming from the Gannon defensive system which we know is based off the Fangio one so there is some familiarity there turns 28 in July 511 so a bit undersized truly does play all over the field, hundreds of snaps in the box, hundreds of snaps of free agency and hundreds, hundreds of snaps at nickel throughout his career. He was interestingly enough, a supplemental draft pick in 2019, 87 starts in 99 games, nine interceptions in seven years, two forced fumbles in seven seasons, but both in the last three years. So he's been, he's been, uh, punching at the ball more recently, nine interceptions in seven years is not great. Not nothing either. Um, but I liked that he can play all over going to cost a little bit of money, $9 million is his projected salary. But again, probably some familiarity with the system. And I like it. I think he'd be a good signing for them. All right. Next up, and Giant, unfortunately, Dane Belton from the Giants. So he's only 25. So that gets the baby emoji, gets the versatility emoji, the dynamite emoji, because he creates turnovers. So of course, you're going to get a star. When you combine age, versatility, and big plays, we already know that's going to be a star emoji. So he's a four emoji player, fourth round pick in 2022. What I like about him is play all over, play box, play free safety, play nickel, has been a part-time starter, but good interception numbers, despite the fact he's only been a part-time starter. 22 starts and six interceptions plus four first fumbles. So he's averaging either an interception or a forced fumble once every two games. Like that is a playmaking safety, gets to the football, he's around the football. Also does play a ton of special teams. So maybe as a depth signing, but my chance, my guess is he's going to get a chance to start. So he would be a risky signing in the way that he's not been a full-time starter. I don't think you could say, okay, we're set at that position, but I think he could be a signing where you sign them in a year. It's like, you got a really good deal on him. I think he has big time upside. So I guess he should actually get the upside emoji too. I'm surprised I missed out on that one. So there it is. Ding, ding, ding, ding, a five emoji player in, uh, in Dane Belton. All right. Next up Jalen Hawkins from the Patriots. So he'll be 29 in August, six, one fourth round pick in 2022. Like a lot of guys on these lists. Cause I like versatility among the safeties plays all three positions, box safety and slot corner part-time starter throughout his career, but still has 47 starts. So he has experience playing, you know, full games and starting week after week, eight interceptions, two forced fumbles in six years but four of those interceptions and a forced fumble came last year so you know over half at each or exactly half at each came last year so you know showing he can make plays around the football has a pretty good experience 29 in august he's not like his you know a young and up-and-coming player but eight million dollars a year according to spot track i think you'd feel good about him starting i don't think you'd feel like we got a stud there but um you You know, four interceptions in a forced fumble last year is certainly noteworthy. All right. So another way I feel old is I remember doing the draft prospect like breakdown for him on this pod. Andre Sisco from the Giants. He'll be 26 in March, six foot third round pick in 2021. Plays free safety and in the box, but more free. Wouldn't really give him the versatility emoji. Not much slot corner. He's like 100 snaps or so, but not a ton of it. So he's mostly a free safety. Was with Jacksonville for four years, then the Jets last year. He's been a full-time starter since 22 when healthy. Only eight games last season, but was over 15 the previous four. Eight interception in his career, three forced fumbles. $4 million a year is what he's expected to get, so he's a cheap option. With some upside, again, he has some draft pedigree as a third-round pick. So I think there's some potentially interesting qualities there. Talk about complete opposite end of the spectrum. him. Jordan Poyer from Buffalo, like was with the Eagles at the beginning of his career, which was a long time ago because he will be 35 in April. So he gets the old man emoji. He gets the cheap emoji. Six foot. I mean, you don't have to explain his game. We've all watched him play for years. He could be a good veteran signing. I wouldn't feel great about him being the starter because he'd have to stay healthy. 10 games last season. Now he's pretty healthy the previous eight years before that, but obviously the most recent season I think is noteworthy because of his age. Used to be able to create turnovers, but only has one in the past three seasons. So he would just be, he has ties to Mike Pellegrino, the secondary coach they just hired. So there's some familiarity there. Older player, end of his career where he started it. Like there's some options there, but I don't think you can say they got Jordan Poyer. They're set at safety. And then the last player I think would make some sense, Alohi Gilman from the Ravens. He'll be 29 in September. Only 5'10". Can play all three spots, though, so he gets the versatility emoji. More time at free in his career, but has played all three spots. Six years with the Chargers and half the season with the Ravens in 2025. 51 starts. Ton of experience being out there starter. Starting five interceptions in six years and five forced fumbles in six years. So 10 forced turnovers in six years, roughly two a year. Not a huge number, but I still give him the dynamite emoji because five forced fumbles in six years to me is very noteworthy. So I don't think you could go in with him as the full-time starter, but I like him as like an upside-type signing. So the star players for me, Dane Belton, Jalen Thompson, Cameron Curl. No, I'm not going to put Jaquan Brisker. Well, I'll give him a star. The concussions are a concern. No, I'm not going to do the star. Not going to do it. Not going to do it. So I think they could go out and spend at this position. I know that drafting one will be potentially a priority, but I think spending on one makes more sense. And I think that some of these players at the top, like Kobe Bryant, Brisker, Curl, Thompson, not really, but there are some options there. You could also potentially trade for a safety, but I think they have to add a veteran player at the position of note if they don't bring Reed Blankenship back, which I do not expect them to. All right, that'll do it for today's episode of the Go Birds Daily. Go out, enjoy your day, enjoy your weekend. Until next time, he's Elliott, I'm Jay. Talk to you guys later.