Million Dollaz Worth Of Game

VERNON MAXWELL - MILLION DOLLAZ WORTH OF GAME EPISODE 361

75 min
•Jan 16, 20265 months ago
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Summary

Vernon Maxwell discusses his NBA career, personal struggles with substance abuse, and critiques of how organizations fail to leverage veteran player expertise. He reflects on missed opportunities, his competitive mentality against legends like Michael Jordan, and offers candid advice to young players about discipline and authenticity.

Insights
  • Organizational failure to retain and utilize veteran championship-winning players in mentorship roles represents a missed opportunity for player development and institutional knowledge transfer
  • Mental health and substance abuse issues during peak earning years can result in catastrophic financial losses despite multi-million dollar contracts and endorsement deals
  • The shift from intrinsic motivation (love of the game) to extrinsic motivation (social media presence, fashion) among modern NBA players correlates with inconsistent performance and lack of championship discipline
  • International player development systems create more disciplined, work-ethic-focused competitors than domestic systems, evidenced by recent MVP trends favoring overseas-developed talent
  • Mentorship from figures with authentic street credibility and real consequences resonates more with at-risk youth than institutional rehabilitation programs
Trends
International players dominating NBA MVP awards, suggesting superior development systems and work ethic in European basketballMental health crisis among high-earning athletes due to lack of proper guidance and support systems during transition to professional lifeGenerational shift in player motivation from legacy/competition to social media presence and lifestyle brandingOrganizational reluctance to hire players with checkered pasts despite their championship experience and player credibilitySubstance abuse normalization in sports culture and inadequate intervention mechanisms during college recruitment phaseLack of father figures and male mentorship in urban communities correlating with disciplinary issues in young athletesModern college basketball recruiting practices (international players, older athletes) creating competitive disadvantage for domestic high school prospectsInstitutional erasure of player legacies and records as punishment mechanism rather than rehabilitation or redemption pathways
Topics
NBA Player Mentorship and Organizational LeadershipSubstance Abuse in Professional SportsMental Health Crisis Among High-Earning AthletesInternational vs. Domestic Player Development SystemsFinancial Management and Career Earnings LossCollege Athletics Compliance and Drug TestingGenerational Differences in Player MotivationFatherhood and Male Mentorship in Urban CommunitiesPlayer Legacy and Institutional RecognitionCompetitive Mentality and Championship CultureSocial Media Impact on Athletic PerformanceRecruitment Ethics in College BasketballRehabilitation vs. Punishment in Sports OrganizationsDefensive Excellence and Playing Style EvolutionCareer Transition and Post-Playing Life
Companies
Houston Rockets
Maxwell's primary NBA team where he won championships; subject of criticism for not honoring his legacy or utilizing ...
University of Florida
Maxwell's college where he faced drug testing, suspension, and eventual record erasure due to NCAA violations related...
Denver Nuggets
Maxwell's original NBA draft team in 1988 before being traded to San Antonio on the same night
San Antonio Spurs
NBA team Maxwell was traded to in 1988, where he played under coach Larry Brown
Portland Trail Blazers
Team Maxwell was traded to after Houston incident; acquired Clyde Drexler during Maxwell's suspension
Philadelphia 76ers
Team Maxwell played for, referenced in discussion of aggressive mentality and urban player development
People
Michael Jordan
Discussed as the greatest player Maxwell ever faced; Maxwell describes the psychological preparation required to play...
LeBron James
Compared to Kobe Bryant and discussed as top-3 player all-time; Maxwell notes his dedication to legacy over money
Kobe Bryant
Ranked third all-time by Maxwell; described as a natural-born killer and discussed his dominance in the league
Allen Iverson
Discussed as example of player whose mentality and aggression defined his greatness; referenced as top player Maxwell...
Charles Barkley
Referenced as teammate Maxwell played with; described as a dominant force and discussed their relationship
Gary Payton
Discussed as defensive peer; Maxwell notes their similar defensive styles and references their interactions
Dennis Rodman
Discussed as one of greatest rebounders and defenders; Maxwell advocates for his recognition in all-time rankings
David Robinson
Teammate Maxwell played against; discussed as elite player and referenced in competitive context
Luka Doncic
Cited as top-5 current player in NBA; example of international player dominance in modern league
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Discussed as MVP winner and example of international player who improved significantly through discipline and work ethic
Nikola Jokic
Referenced as top-5 current player and recent MVP winner from international background
Jayson Tatum
Mentioned as current elite player in NBA landscape
Clyde Drexel
Traded to Portland Trail Blazers during Maxwell's suspension; Maxwell expresses frustration about lack of communication
Larry Brown
Coach Maxwell played under in San Antonio; described as hard-nosed and disciplinary coach
Alvin Robertson
Teammate in San Antonio; Maxwell describes him as elite defender capable of quadruple-doubles
Stackhouse
Teammate Maxwell played with in Philadelphia; referenced in competitive context
Tim Hardaway
Discussed as player with elite crossover move and trash-talking ability
Buck Johnson
Teammate Maxwell played against; referenced in physical altercation story during game
Quotes
"You can't teach what you don't know, you can't leave where you don't go. How are we going to have teachers teaching people or people in the organization sometime that never even come from this stuff?"
Vernon Maxwell•Early in episode
"I ain't coming here to be no backup. That's a mentality."
Vernon Maxwell (referencing DeSean Jackson)•Mid-episode
"You can't erase history now, right? You can't erase moments. You can't erase the feeling that you brought to the team, that you brought to the city, that you brought to the organization."
Vernon Maxwell•Mid-episode
"A lot of you motherfuckers ain't gonna make it. It's so hard and so competitive now. And you got more of my first coming out from Europe."
Vernon Maxwell•Late episode
"When you first started playing basketball you never really even too young to even think I'm going to the league. You do you be driven."
Vernon Maxwell•Late episode
Full Transcript
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You win two NBA titles, right? And you're not in the Houston Rock, it's all the thing. And you like, you was a major, you was one of the main ingredients. Everything, like I don't, I don't be understanding a lot of times with these organizations. And they ain't hold up NBA, I ain't got no, I ain't got no problem nobody, but it's just real questions. Like how do you know all the legends that paved the way? I'm talking about, we talking about somebody that got a chip, we two, not one, two chips. And we got people that they ain't even got chips and different organizations that got, they haul a fame in the team. And then another thing, I messed up because I'm like, how y'all don't have any people apart of the organization? Because let me just say this, NBA, NFL, Major League, baseball, let me just say this, you can't teach what you don't know, you can't leave where you don't go. How are we going to have teachers teaching people or people in the organization sometime that never even come from this stuff? I understand, shout out to the degrees, but it's like, why we don't have people that come from it. And I'm going to get right into it, I see in VRM, NBA All-Star last year, right? And I'm trying to wonder, like damn, this makes all the sense. I've seen like a good five to seven top flight players in the NBA pulling them to the side, he giving them advice, he talking to them and all this, I'm like, come on. Why they ain't got you in the league? How the league ain't got you in the league dealing with these players on real life issues? Yeah, absolutely. Like, I'm like, what is going on, Vern? Hey, man, this is, you know, what it always been. This shit's been political for a long time, man. This is going to stay political, man. And niggas like me and like martial arts and shit, they want to try to tell you how to, you know, but that's all. But what am I fucking going to understand? Whatever platform you put me on, I got them. Now I know how to talk on that platform. Now if you put me on ESPN, I know I ain't got a curse. I ain't going to curse, God damn it. But now I'm on, you know, what I do, this is what I do. And I get a chance to express myself the way to fuck. I want to express myself behind these cameras and with y'all and I appreciate this shit right here, but it's been a long time coming to my brother's. Yes, I love him. I love him too, brother. So we love you too. Y'all always been, you know, inspiration for me. So, but yeah, but yeah, but you, that's what it is, man. All this political shit, man. But Houston Rock is damn it. Y'all need to do the right thing. Get me and that motherfucker hold a thing. Yes. That's what you need to do. Yes. Absolutely. We, you know what? I want anybody out there to see. I'm going to just see this too. Hold on before you, if you see that, I'm aiming to cut y'all. I'm going to just say this too, right? We can sometimes in life, people tend to dismiss or try not to remember history. You can't erase history now, right? You can't erase moments. You can't erase the feeling that you brought to the team, that you brought to the city, that you brought to the organization, you brought to the environment. You can't erase that. You know what I mean? In a lot of times, just because a person wasn't a certain way or we all different individuals, that's what make us great. We all come from different backgrounds. We all come from different environments. We all come from, yeah, Johnny, from the suburbs, Ancombe is aggressive, is burning from the ghetto. Right. Say that. Mikey from, Mikey from King of Prussia, he's not going to have the same aggression as my fucking Raheem from North Philly. Right. It's two different environments. They might have the same game, the same talent, but they're not going to have the same mentality. Yeah. And a lot of times what the upper echelon don't understand is what make me great. These players great a lot of times is the mentality. Their aggression. That's what made Iverson great. My brother. That's what made, from example, always tell his story, the Sean Jackson. I knew that he was going to be great from the first interview he ever did as a Philadelphia eagle. When they asked him, oh, you hear you and it's rookie. We had just drafted a guy named Reggie Brown from Florida. He said, you are rookie. You go, you get to come in, you get to learn under Reggie Brown. And then he said, what? I ain't coming here to be no backup. That's a mentality. Yeah. Take me in your tripping, man. Yeah. That's not what he was supposed to say. He was supposed to say, well, you know, I just want to get the opportunity to come in and learn and just help the team in any way and stupidly boo. About bit, bit man, man, skip ass all that bullshit. I ain't coming to be no backup, man. You're all talking about basically. It's a mentality. So a lot of times when you come from those urban environments, the mentality and not having nothing, your back always being against the wall. That's what make you so out. But that's what bring the best out. Yeah, right. Because you always had to fight to get every fucking thing you ever gotten like. I say we was hood rich where I came from. So, you know, my mom, she did that she could for a shot at the grace of my gang's field. And she'll be here. What's up? Yeah, but, yeah, we was hood rich. So, you know, so we on Niggas had like the Acondition in the house and shit. Nobody always getting it. Oh, Niggas. You ain't got fans. You wasn't sleeping under a fan, you had the AC? That was money. Like these kids don't even know nothing about that shit. He was rich, man, the AC. Yeah. Well, fuckers have fans in there, man. Yeah, Niggas hood rich. Niggas told you we had it all. Niggas, we was good. But, uh, we're mutil grass in the front yard. Yeah, we had all the shit like that there. Grass. Oh, yeah, grass was me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Grass was me. That shit was niggas. Everybody else grasses burnt out, but we actually grass and everything. Niggas. But we was cool, man. My mom did a great job. But, um, yeah, man, but, um, and shot at the University of Florida too. I'm sorry. I meant to tell y'all. I mean, I was like, you know, the University of Florida coming up there this weekend. They honoring. Uh, the game day. The game day. They put my records back. We know that part. So, yeah, so I'm going up there and it's going to be a very exciting shit. But, can't wait to fuck the child. Coming down there to fuck the child real hard. Let me ask you a question. Yeah. When you delete, right? Mm-hmm. You got in the league. It was a very aggressive. That shit was down there like, football. Yeah, absolutely. It was aggressive, right? Yeah. When you first got to the league, what was on your mind? Did you, you know, you see in all these legendary players that you watched on TV? Now you're a part of it. That's the easy question, Anne. God damn it. I got to the league. I had Alvin Robertson. You know, this nigga was crazy. Motherfucker. This nigga was a dog. They're talking about the pertinocks. Well, I want y'all to go find this nigga in San Antonio and get this nigga on the interview. Mm-hmm. We're calling it nobody. And if you're just motherfucker right here. Okay. And I mean, y'all is a Googler this motherfucker. Okay. And I had just nigga named Alvin Robertson. Just nigga. He used to get quadrupled doubles back in the day. Who? Who? A guard. Just nigga. He's shorter than me. So, and he's like six three, but nigga had like he was like a gorilla. Nigga had... Trapped like this nigga. Yeah, it was all just shit. Just nigga, you know, he was like, he wasn't a good three-point shooter, but he was a good mid-range shooter. He shoot that shit slow, but just nigga lock you up, steals. Sometimes I just nigga tend steals, rebounds, assists, and points. Just nigga, it was crazy man. But just nigga, I knew when they traded me from Denver, say I got drafted by Denver, I nuggets in 88. See, I know a lot of you motherfuckers probably was like four, five, three, two. Yeah, but so, and then the same night, Denver traded me over the motherfuckin San Antonio. So I'm like, that damn okay, I don't even know about the trades and shit and all this shit, but I had never been there, so I ain't give a fuck. So I just say I'm going to San Antonio. So I didn't know, but Papa Vitch was there, and we had, when I got drafted, it was, I think it was Bob Hill, I think, he was there. So Noah's Larry Brown, he was there. So Larry Brown was there. So Larry Brown, and I didn't even know. But like nothing about Larry Brown, motherfucking ass, but I knew he was a hard-knows coach, and I knew he was a disciplinary. And then, so, but I'm a part of the animal, I'm a tight motherfucker. So I parted all the time. Shit, I just left Florida and shit, I went into second round because I was on cocaine. And you know, and I was, you know, they knew it, Noah Florida? What, the motherfuckers, I want to tell a lot of them. Yeah, so we already, Florida, hey, I love y'all, you know, swashed all that. You know, I mean, I appreciate the squash, you know, that, but yeah, but yeah, I was, I just, it's been like over 30, 35 years since they took my records away from it. So, but, so I was on all, you know, I was on all the dope. But I'm just saying, right, in Florida's defense, right? Yeah. I was supposed to see some, you was on cocaine, this ain't the streets like they like damn, you told me it's your man, Johnny, it's from the hood and shit like Florida was supposed to be like, that nigga, that nigga come on, but I want to go and see that story. So, but there's nothing I got to make it where you can understand it. Okay. So, okay. So, I mean, so this high, you know, I, yeah, I was on it. I was on the coke. Y'all are nicks. No, I'm gonna tell the truth about Mad Max. I'm gonna tell you who the fuck I did. Was you Mad Max, then? No, I think I was, well, they came out to the scene. Yeah, they're muffin' white, but you know, I said another story. The muffin' white folks in the NBA know offense. They changed, they changed their name. I was shit. You know, like they did slaves back in the day. See, when I got to the NBA, you know, I was getting a lot of shit. So, they make this change. I mean, I was like, my mom was watching the game and shit. My fuckers, like I was playing in the game. And shit, my mom's hurt. Got mad, mad, mad. Cause I scored a fucker. They said, oh, mad, mad, it's great. Move. And my mom's, I'm gonna hold the fuckers at Mad Max. I ain't over the fuck Mad Max. What? She said, God damn. So, she had to, now she heard it again. And she said, damn, her name's Maxwell, mad, mad, mad. She said, God damn, nigga, when they change your name. So, I said, God damn, mother, you know, these white folks, you know, what we're gonna do now. Just like slaves, it's a modern day slavery right now. You know how to shake old. You know, they don't change our names. And like, so they're winning your nickname. No. There was a nickname with the media game. Yes, man, yes. I didn't, I got mad, man. My nickname was Hulk. Thank God, no. Ruh! Ruh! Ruh! Ruh! Ruh! Ruh! Ruh! Ruh! Ruh! I can't, I'm just joking. It's a different guy, man. It's a different crazy, man. You're crazy, man. You're crazy. Yo, he'll tell. He done that before. He'll tell that, that's the best thing, man. He did fake that. I'm looking at heels too. That's the else, that's the eight more. That's eight more. That's eight more, man. Look at that, look at that. Look at him with crazy. I can see up that nigga. What you're blowing out of that, dude? You got a zone. I know you've got nigga nose. You can't act that way, dude. God, shit. I love nigga nose, dude. Yeah, yeah. You can act what you just did. That's eight more. That's eight more. That nigga said that nigga, your whole nose blowed out. Hold on, let your nose down in the back. That raw ate his nose up. That raw ate his nose up. Yeah, I am. Raw ate W. That he ate his jaw on that, man. So now we're not in this. Now we're in. No, who though he got finished that story, man. I was like, hey, nigga, what was talking about? I see that. He told me to hold. OK. He said that nigga was the whole. He said that we were broke. OK, yeah, my name was Hulk. OK, man. Man was Hulk. OK, my name was Hulk nigga. But my nigga, you man, Max, your mom. Yeah, that's the idea. So yeah, but at Florida, see what happened at Florida, say I was supposed to go ahead and top damn. And then I was next to thinking crazy. They need to. Raw. That's it. This is crazy. This nigga, he's a slug. Oh, that doesn't mean he definitely needs to do it. He got down. He know. You can't fake a reaction. I don't know. I don't know. OK. That's crazy. That's crazy. Oh, my goodness. I know this shit was going to be good. Oh, OK. So OK, when I was top mad. Well, yeah, Florida, see, but OK, I was making a long story. OK, I was at Florida. When I ain't going to keep a short one, make it long shit. Yeah, we got time. Yes. OK, so I was at Florida. And then I was doing all that, you know, everything I was doing pardon. The only reason I ain't go to North Carolina State, well, jump out of Atlanta was God bless them because I felt like if I'd have went over there, I wouldn't have known what all the dope spot was. Well, I could got what I wanted. OK. So you was doing that shit at high school? No, nigga. And college. And college, and high school, as we hit the house of the drunk. So you ain't used to. I was drunk. You got the floor of drinking the smoke. I got the Florida. I think I might have got. 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That poor kid letting in the boot. That part too. That part too. I can't follow the boot. That part too. So yeah, that's just yeah, it was the okay, that part. Yeah. And then I went out there and visit what I said, shit, I ain't never been nowhere for games, Bill. So I'm from the game, Bill. I had never really been there. So they flew me over there. North Carolina state came pick me up when they playing back in M.D. So I was like, God damn, it's a long ass flight. Shit, what number? Like two hours. So I'm famous for long flights. So when I get over there, they did a great job. They had a, they put on a good show for me and all this bullshit. And it was great. I appreciate all the love. But I came back and you know, and I had the time of the University of Florida. But I'm telling this shit though, to make the long, I was supposed to go top 10, top 12, top 15, whatever you say. Okay, top 15. So we had to combine like working out like week or two, week and a half of a photo got them draft. You know, Niggah, it wasn't the phones back then. Well, it was the back, you know, in 1988, you go out there and get the USA to date paper, you know, out to hotel. You get the USA to date paper. But you might not know, you, you was out then. Yeah. So you get the USA to date paper. You go outside, open the door, get the USA paper off the floor. You bring that motherfucker back in, you start flippin' through, I go straight to the sports department. You know what you want to see with everybody? Yeah, I go straight to the street. Yeah, I didn't pull it up. But my picture on the front of that motherfucker. Yeah, the motherfucker said, yeah, Burnham Maxwell, yeah, got cocaine, marijuana, damn drunk, whatever they want to call it. Yeah, all this shit, they put out this shit out on me. And that's a week and a half for a drive. So damn, amazing, they like scrambling, they like, what the fuck, damn. They go, wow shit, damn, we can put all this money into your ass. You know how that floor does so. But like, got there, and they're gonna get trapped it. So I'm like shit, I mean, so. Was there one of the scariest moments of your life? That's when I thought that shit, I said, got there, and my thought the shit was gone. It was pretty much got there. It was gonna be rough on that. I just wanted to get drive, cause if I got drafted, I was like, you want to play. I'm gonna make a team. Yeah, but I ain't get drafted. So I was on a, I ended up getting a call up in some bullshit. I lost like three million dollars in here, you know, back in the 88, you know, 89. There's a lot of money. You know, that's all I did. All my motherfuckin' career lost a lot of money. You know, so we gonna keep, we gonna talk about all the other stuff that I'm on the story right now. So, and so I got, I made 300,000. I went, I went to last two, I went 48 out of 50. I was a 48, 50. I was scared. Yeah, yeah, well I was, well you, you talked about it. I was the hell you told me not. You know, a shit, so I was just sitting in there with my agents and shit. I was like, oh shit, motherfucker, I don't know how y'all gonna get this money back. Cause their motherfuckin' been gave me over 300,000. You know, at the University of Florida. So, I'm like, goddamn. So I don't know how these motherfuckers, so, and then nigga, that's all I signed for, 300,000. So shit. We got there, so. Just me when you came, nigga. Oh yeah, you better. Yeah, so. So that part right there, and then so, and then so, but then Florida ended up taking my records because I end up saying that cause they gave me money too. And North fence Florida, I'm sorry, the stores over, we all over that now. But, and I said something about that, I said, and they went on some like sanctioned shit, so they took my records away. But you know, ultimately like we always said, y'all, you can't take the damn history away. That's history what I did. You know, you can't take that shit away. You said you ain't grow what you did in your household. No, no, I don't know my dad. I know his name Earl Maxwell. Shit, I know the nigga ain't shit. You know, and my mom gracing me Maxwell. That's, that's, that's my mom dad, my grandma, my granddad. Yeah, that's, that's true. Do you think if you would have grew up with your father in the household? Yeah, absolutely. I'm going to have more discipline. No, no, no, it makes it, it, it, it, it, it, it absolutely helps. You know, a lot, you know, you got a dad in the father. You know, I mean, cause you, I mean, you got your uncle. Moncomyke did a great job with him. He was like my father for me. So he's, I mean, you got to have a nigga in the house to discipline you. You know, and, and back in them days, you know, I mean, it was rough back in them day or year. And then a lot of times it was my mom's fault. But we went alone, you know, like, you have people next door to you. Absolutely. And then my brother Greg, he's over community back there. Absolutely. You know, that's what it took, you know, you know, to, you know, to help, you know, back then to grow up. So, and so, but other than that, man, shit, I had, I, I felt like if I had left, lived any other mother fucking life, shit, I don't think I had been where I was at. I had to go through that shit to get to where I was at. Because like I tell them off, fuck us all the time. I dreamt this shit. You know, I dreamt where I was going to play. I know y'all niggas or no, I dreamt me. I dreamed this shit. Yeah, I dreamt this shit. I dreamed this shit that I was going to play in the NBA. And a lot of times I was in that motherfucker. Niggas was just saying shit. I was pinching my mother fucking cell, cause I was doing believe that shit was real, huh? Yeah, in my nigga. There you go. Yeah. Let me ask you a question. A lot of people were scared of Michael Jordan, man. Y'all shit. When he stepped on the court, motherfucker was scared. What happened with you? When you, when Mike, when you knew Mike was late, so now he coming, you know, y'all got to play dumb. Well, what was your whole outlook on him? That's the whole difference. That was, oh, Lord, that's the difference of motherfucker story that now. Let's come on now. We, you know, the story about that one. My mom already told me that when you play against that motherfucker right there, you know, that motherfucker right there, you got to get down. And that motherfucker be laid out in the bed, put your feet under pillow. And I was like, shit, I got up under one pillow. I felt like I was still level. I said, she said, you got to get the motherfucker's head. And I've done two, three other motherfuckers are punning the motherfucker. So I have laced them up. And all my little hunts was trying to call me. I had to call him. I go, you know, nice call to grow. I don't think Chicago got a lot of pretty girls either. So, but I ain't go out a lot in Chicago. So I can't, I can't, I can't say that shit. So Chicago, man, when Mike, man, got down, man. That's, it was scary, man. You know, I mean, it was scary. You was scared. No, I wasn't scared. And just, you know, just getting ready to play against this motherfucker. You know, it wasn't getting scared, and I ain't that was scared. But it's just, you know, the build up, you know, we getting ready to play against this motherfucker. I'm ready to play this motherfucker. But I know I'm telling myself, you know, I'm thinking about this shit, like we playing this motherfucker like a week later. I'm thinking about that motherfucker being, I'm going to, I see that nigga on the counter. I said, oh, Lord, here we go. We gotta get ready for this shit. Here we go, nigga. We gotta get ready for this shit. Yeah, he's thinking about that shit a week before I see that motherfucker Chicago on the stadium. That's Chicago on the schedule. I said, God damn it. I gotta get ready for this motherfucker right here. I got that shit. I be thinking about that motherfucker there. I was counting down. His mic hands down the greatest player all the time. To me, to me, yes, he's, I ain't seen that like it, man. You had to be out there to see this shit. Who your top three? Mike, then who's after her? Oh, man, I like seeing, I like, I like, I like Kobe. Overla Brun? Yeah. What? Kobe's a dog, man. The bronze, the bronze, he make the right plays. He do all the right shit. He played the right way. I mean, Kobe was a motherfucker, natural bone killer, a fucking killer. That motherfucker was a natural bone killer. And Kobe played with y'all. He did get him like the business. She did. Well, he did play with us. I mean, he- Mike back then. And there's, you know, like, back, back. And NBA. Yeah, we all first. Well, he played, he came in. I seen Kobe when he was coming off the bench in LA at the time. When I seen him. Well, that's the difference. Mike, the bottom of the came off the bench. Yeah, I know. Yeah, yeah, but I know how to say it. Think about this. LeBon James wants to a team that won 13 games at 18 years old. Now, you've been in the locker. Let me ask you a question. You 32 in a lot. Tasty Trade has a suite of probability tools so you can make smarter picks for your portfolio, though it can't help you fill out your NCAA bracket. You can trade stocks, options, futures, and more all in one platform. Tasty Trade offers low commissions, including zero commission on stocks, so you can keep more of what you earn. The platform is packed with trading features like back testing, which lets you simulate your trading strategies using 10 plus years of data so you can test your ideas about potential Cinderella stocks. 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It was. We lied to Juan. He played against all these guys. For cool back up any Jones. That's my main body Jones is my brother. He got to understand. He had to, he had to, he couldn't just come right in. Because Eddie, you got to understand. Eddie was hooping his ass off. But LeBron James went in the back. Eddie Jones up in the 11th group. But see, I get that part. But see, you got to understand just the era when Kobe came in that one. It was rougher. It was. It was rougher. It was rougher. And then, Brian, he beat the statue. He got a big statue. I mean, but shit. I mean, he can play in any era. So he's gonna start any era. But I don't make him like better than Kobe. God bless him. God bless Kobe. Kobe's the third best player to me. I'll go Mike LeBron Kobe. Nah. That's cool. You'll keep it in my favorite play. It didn't his round. He got it. Oh, it's my fucking. He got it. Like I'm just saying, y'all keep it here. Yeah, that's it. If he did, we're making it one new fuck this. I'm just saying, y'all forget it's great. One of the greatest players in history of life. Here's my top five, dear. Here's John. Hey, you know what? Shout out Dennis. That's my boy. I fuck with Dennis. I'm a little bit tired. Yeah, but anybody want to grab a 15 rebounds? Who doing that? 22. Like who doing that? No, no, no. Like this is the greatest. So I think I got 30 rebounds one time. And zero points. And zero points. Because he did his job. He did his job here, legend. Real tough. Mike and the leader now. Like why nobody acknowledged that it's not everybody. I need it. I need it. Y'all keep mentioning it. I'm going to know this. Who's the top five players you played with? Oh, shit. Well, so how keen you guys have to get the dream out of the way. Get them out there. Iverson. Bubba, Joe. Yes, a little bit. My mother fucking killer right there. Used a party with Bubba. Ah, yes. Something like that. Something like that. Something like that. So I'm a little casino, though. Oh, man. We're going to stand in my father's. How all he going to do? I love him, though. I love him, though. Good mother fuck him, man. Good nigga, bro. Oh, man. Because it's a real goddamn tip. One thing about Bubba, you won't call you and tell you you love you for no reason. Yeah. Yeah. I love you, bro. Yeah. That's my brother. I just said just call me back a week or two. I was like, man, I'm so proud of you, my fucking ass, man. And boy, you look goddamn good. You don't pick it up. You don't pick it up. What did I say? You don't pick it up. Well, you look good, Matt. I'm proud of you. I just see him on the other side of the phone. Well, yeah, man. That's my brother right there. I love him. And another guy. Shit, I played with a shit. I mean, this guy was crazy too. Chris Webham. You know, I guess see where this fly was. So that see where the dream Bubba Chia. Yeah. Bubba Chia. Yeah. And God, I got my nigga Bubba Chia. God, I got a- You ain't got to go into position. No, I ain't going into position. I'm just going to play a- That shit. All right, two boys. Because I'm going to play with a lot of motherfuckers. I like, you know what? And I'm going to get a nigga and cause me and his nigga we squashed all that bullshit, you know what I mean? Because, you know, about GP. I got to get GP. It's fly with GP. GP was a bad motherfucker in his time. So, I played with GP too. Why GP always so angry though? Well, he really not liked that. And I see GP at the big three games. I'm like, bled you. Bled you. Bled you, like. I'm like, damn, bro. That nigga is not like that. Let's go with them. I like that. Fuck that nigga. Fuck that nigga. Fuck that nigga. Let's do that. But I told you that I said, dop. A-Termacy, Gary Pinkett. You know, cause I- Dop. That's Gary Pink, bro. I was in the house. Yeah. The club. You know what's crazy? You know what's crazy? Back then, man. So now, when I see him, I still do it. And he tell my see him. Back then. The light shit. What's up, light shit? A-Term nigga do like- Like I threw up a gang sign, the heater up the side. If he like this. Maybe like this. Yo, what was crazy back then when he was in his prime, they said our defense was similar and they used to call me the sat. Oh, man. Fuck it. You know what I mean? You got the glove in the sat. It's all on your feet. I'm warning, because I'm like this. They call me the sat. They call me the glove. They call me the sat. No, because I'm warning you to the glove. It means he's all over. Okay, right. Sat. He's all over. There's the same thing. Oh, god. They call him the sat. It means you all over. He said back in the day they used to call him the glove. They called me the sat. Oh, fuck out. Yeah, because my defense was crazy. You know what I mean? My defense was crazy back then. I'm going over. But if he can't move, they call me the sat because once I put it down, you can't even move. You're like this. You can't go with it. I just want to say this, right? So I just want to be honest. I've heard some people off camera. And my men were out of doubt been looking at a while over a whole time. Like this nigga Grease like that. He like this. Look at my heart. I think I've been locked up too long. But I'm going to say this, though. I want to know this because this is the last player as David Robinson. David Robinson. Oh, see, that's why I'm fucked with y'all. Because y'all keep disrespecting my man, D.R. Dennis. I'm thinking you guys say Dennis is well. No, I don't make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a Oh Sam, that's my nigga. I know my nigga. Bad to say about my nigga. And I told him, that's his hand, what's up? What we doing? You'll get it. I told him, how the gay between you? I cook him too, just like I told you. I cook legends. And people that's active in NBA. I approach people. Ain't nobody check rock yet. Well listen, I want to know. Check rock. The brunz. Yeah, they did swag in pink nigga. So damn. And I cook him. Yeah, I got it. No, he's gonna take. It's a video. I'm re-pulling it out. I saw it. No, you didn't. You ain't see it. You got it. Stack in the sun running. I say something to LeBron and his son. They ain't what it. So, but listen. This is what I need to know. Because he need to know this. What do you, because he didn't make it. So what do you tell somebody a kid is trying to make it in the NBA. Trying to make it to the NBA. What do you tell him? Right now. A lot of you motherfuckers ain't gonna make it. Oh, man. Just to be one thousand. You know what I mean? It's so hard. And so competitive now. And you got more of my first coming out from Europe. And they won't. And they won't like in college friends. They don't. They don't want no damn high school kids. No more coming out of high school. If you do, you're gonna go D2. Low major D1. Low major D1. You know what I mean? And they're going to get these grown ass niggas. Now, you got niggas being planned and charged. They're month 25. 28. No, they're 28. They're sending niggas over there and just USC. They're 20 years old. So they're niggas dumped on that. And I said, that's the old last man. Young kids just dumped on that old last man. Is he 28 years old? If you still playing in college, they're 20 years old. They won't be worked out. But you know, a lot of them stay for that. And they're all shit. I'm gonna fuck a gettin' back for a meal. For a meal. You know, you ain't gonna get that niggas. You go to the G league. You ain't gonna get that. You go cross C. You ain't gonna get that. And they keep... This shit is all fucked up. So you basically stay... Just a lot of you motherfuckers ain't gonna make it first of all. And good luck to you. And work your ass off. I mean, don't let nobody out training. And stay a good kid. And don't do it the fuck I say I've been doing. When I was coming up the weed. For all you motherfuckers, I knew you smoked the weed. But get off the weed. And the coat. And all that. PCP Guild with PCP. And the... He was PCP. That's why he made me... I'm just sayin' like, he smoked the wet and gettin' neckier. You strip outta practice. Here come my practice with a jack strap war. Screamin' and shit. Do a little bit of little high. He came up with top. He had Cabrini College. They said he got Cabrini College. He came out of league with a G strap war. But then we call them Joel's and Jackstra... And a little high. And then we go down the door. Don't tell him he heard it. He had a... Oh shit. Yeah, the jack strap war. That's what I was just sayin'. You know what you mean? He smoked it. Yeah. Because he was a lock on kicking the ass. Yeah. They listen. They're in the locker room. Listen to the freaky tales by Tushio. These are all the tales. The freaky... He smoked with a PCP. He just slipped out. Ah, he came out the lay of life. They said he come out there. First of all, they think about the care of the jack strap. He's livin' behind the care, bro. He like this. Like this thing you're telling the truth. Hold tight, he lookin' at him like this. Like a fick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick aick a to say that because I know in the last thing you were saying you said you know tell them the kids all at the up against you saying you got players coming from overseas and it's safe to say that right now in professional sports the best players in the world is coming from overseas. You say a professional sport you tell my NBA. They're more ready. They're more ready. They're more ready. So they start yeah they start playing over there in Europe at 16 and 15 playing professionally. So with safe to say they're right now. Look at them came. Europe got the best players. The overseas players are better than the players in the United States. Well they don't play that goddamn game in all-star games so they're chasing that format out so we don't see who got the damn best time. I ain't they got that. Well they don't know but that's the all-star game. But I know they've been playing for real. But I mean she can be more 75 to 175. I think I think USA we always got the best players. Hell I'm just saying this. Yo Kitch has been MVP. Yanis has been MVP. She has been MVP. Yo Kitch has been MVP multiple years. Jewell and Beat has been MVP. We ain't had a nigga from the States. We have MVP in last 10 years. So okay. So the answer that question right there. Still we got better players. I get your point. Hold on. Let me over it. So I got to go. We got. I mean. Okay who the top five? Who the top five? Hold is my fuckers in the league right now. Yo Kitch, Shay, Luca. You gotta put them three in there. Yeah, they're three automatically. Yanis. We'll be. We might go with another one. Who you said? Say that again. No. Say that again. Say what you said. I said. Yo Kitch, Shay, Luca, Wembee, Yanis. You know you can say. I ain't saying shit. I know. You know. I said shit. That's crazy. I'm from the United States. But it said it is the same. That's what they kick in the ass. I don't know how much discipline they need. They're not for the end. They're not for the end. I'm going to play out to these things with their motherfuckers. Yeah. 46, 10 and five. I'll tell you that. My fuckers do that. They just. They just read it, man. They just like I say. They're my fuckers. They're my hands. Okay. Let's be for real though. When Yanis first came in the league, he wasn't ready. No. He grew into it. He was skinny. He was like that. He lived weight. He worked. 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Then they go still doing the same dumb shit that they did the year before. So you know what that tells me? Niggas you ain't working on your craft. That's what they're telling me. So that's what I'm, that's what I, that's the one the discipline part come at. So, Janice, you remember you say he came in that ready? Now you see how that motherfucker got shoulder on top of his shoulder. He hit niggas with that big ass shoulders and then created a little game and a little outside jump shot and worked on his craft. That's what I've been talking about. These niggas from the States when they get there and they make it and I love all your niggas now. I love all your young niggas y'all get there and y'all make it. Y'all with the We Go Game. No, don't do that. I'm just playing. I'm just playing. I'm just playing. I'm just playing. I'm just playing. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, they're fucking. Money, they're money, that's a lot of money. They're money, they're money where we're tired of your ass. When the motherfuckers give you money can retire a million, five million, five million, 160 million dollar deal and then you get a like we was talking about a 60 million dollar shoe deal on these shoes that motherfuckers ain't even buying. So I mean so I mean damn niggas. What? That's generational wealth. What am I doing now? But see that's the difference. What am I doing now? Are you playing this shit? And that's one contract. But they don't want to try. That's it. But see, we're going to get a Netherlands. Right. When you when we started playing this shit it was never for money. That's why we did it. It was always because we let it shit. We did it because when you first started playing basketball you never really you two even too young to even think I'm going to the league. You do you be driven. I was dribbling the basketball before even knew what the NBA was three years old. I'll do it. Try to four years old. Trying to figure it out. So at the end of the day, anybody one thing you you can never say about LeBron is that he ever played for the money. You can't say that because that nigga colludes in a playoff series on Saturday and Tuesday that nigga's in the gym. Listen to the red music. That nigga really do this shit for legacy. You feel what I'm saying? You got to understand. I understand that back when we was coming up, nigga's was just built different man. You got to understand it's documented. It's one of documented series that called the last dance where the ex-Mike on a fucking finals game day. What did you do today, Mike? You saw I sat in my room and drank brusquies and drank some wine and played the piano. Damn, I'm so much championship game day. See, nigga was in the room. There's a ridden in his game. Give me another brusquie. You know, you know, you were playing in a chip. Burm. You know what I find crazy, dude? This is what I find crazy in law. Gil keeps saying back in the day we was built different. We was. But this one I'm trying to figure out how the fuck was you built different? This nigga went to Division 4 Kyle. Fuckers me talking about. We keep trying to put you in there with Mike and all the old hit. Stop doing that shit. We was built different. nigga, you went to Division 4 and a half college. That was a block long. School was a block long. When they had a month fucking game, when 15 people could sit in there and watch, you get the fuck out of here. They ain't even had no bleachers. They didn't even tell him about that. As soon as he talking about, we was built different. What's the big old bitch in my turn? He won't make you much. See, back in the day, we was built different. He was, we even took Division 4 Kyle. Yeah, he'd have made me hear me. For 40 min, it was 15 people that went to the school. What was Kyle for? Nine of us. No, it was called, it was like a four minus Kyle. A four minus Kyle. Oh my goodness. A D four minus. I ain't gonna make sure it's a question, man. You had social media out back in the day. Oh, they didn't even try to get in the hell fucked up. How much more trouble would Mad Max have been in? Well, I couldn't, I wouldn't have made it. I wouldn't play, I wouldn't have made it. Because what I did, oh my goodness, I don't know, oh my goodness. I don't know, so much for the fucking money. I got the divorce because all of my fun kids I had. But. So you got 13 of them? Absolutely. They did divorce? Never heard of kind of brain you liked. Not bad, they did. Stop and get some Georgia's. He was dead. Did the divorce hurt you? My first one, yeah, I'm too tired of losing. Yeah, so my first one and my second one hurt me. Yeah, but my first one hurt me. I was well up about since high school, well since Kyle. Who's the cheerful, honestly? Oh shit, well I wasn't shit, the 13 kids. So I, how many? Most of them was on the side, huh? Yes, and she had to take that, huh? Yeah. And see, they're having twins out in DC. You write them all fucking spanked out? Chester, motherfucker. They spanked out. They all over the, they spanked out. I knew Phil. I knew Phil. I knew Phil. They didn't know. Nah, they didn't know. They don't say, he's talking about chesters. Yeah. Wow, they ain't no motherfucker's chesters. Don't put his head to those motherfucker might be talking about something. Let me check and see. Hey, how many kids you got from Philly? Not. No. No. Okay. I remember what I said about him down there. The killing girl. Yeah. Okay, some heat from the back, fuck you. Yeah. Yeah. Have her didn't get anything. Come on. I love you. Please don't treat me. Come here. I want to retire. That's what I said. I'm proud of dogass. I did. I got my dogass out of the tooth. So me and the, yeah, I want to fight. Because she was down at the motherfucking crab check too much in North Philly. Absolutely. My man's sick. Oh, shout out to the side. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I got that right. I can't imagine you and Bubba on the same team. There was the craziest shit you ever seen Bubba do. I know he could tell us what crazy shitty scene you do. With that bull race shit, there's a way on the plane. That bull race shit. They motherfucker beat me up on the plane. We just flew from fucking our land. What's bull race? It's like a car game. This nigga's being planned. And I'm just new at this shit. So I'm telling this nigga, I mean, my name night y'all's nigga. I fucked that nigga. I ain't no, I ain't even a, my nigga's quick hit. And maybe you hit one nigga. If I am, you can hit a hundred. And so shit like that. I was like, oh, I feel like I need a, yeah. Yeah, the motherfucker's like, so I looked at it a couple of times. I said, that is, that is. So I got him the shit. I don't forgot to play the shit right now. So I got into motherfucking and I ain't had them. We was on the road for about a week. I had about 50,000. My little pocket of shit. You know, the nigga there is. It's bumper chocken. I'm the guy back motherfucking. Three huddy. Yeah, four huddy. And then he's just fucking off money. And then if they lose that, they can get money to come to him right there, to him, to the hotel. And shit, you know, from a bank in wherever we at. Shit, I wasn't doing it like that. So I'm over there motherfucking. So I jumped in there motherfucking with my little money. I remember before we got that motherfucking plane. And we flew from Orlando to motherfucking man. And that flight was short as hell. We was on our own flight. I paid 25. Nigger. I was broke. And then y'all got to get there. They pleased you for that 50,000. That's the job of dead broke. I was looking at them niggas man. We was on the motherfucking. We was getting off the plane. I was looking at them niggas outside my motherfucking head. Like man, these motherfucking niggas man. I don't know about it but nothing to say. Nothing to me on this motherfucking bus. When we got on this bus, because I got a girl to play and get on the bus, go to the hotel. So we on the bus, and I told my mask, we're getting ready to do it. They didn't even get ready to do it. He didn't want all the motherfucking money. We getting ready to do it. He didn't want all the money. They had to get ready to do it. Why? Yeah, we get ready to do it. You know I gotcha. No fuck that. No. We on the bus ride. We back there. I'm so, I'm like that motherfucking like, oh shit. Boy, you don't fuck off shit. Just like that one. 35. So I'm sitting back there motherfucking. So we get ready to get off the bus. It's my fuck time. Come on, Max, we gone. Baby, we gone. We gone. We went out of here. I got the car right here. Now I'm looking at that nigga man. Yeah, I ain't going on my fucking way, man. I ain't going nowhere, man. I ain't going nowhere, man. I need that motherfucking bread back, man. I need that motherfucking. I need that. I'm here. Shoot that back to me. He shot a vector. He got killed right here. And then he saved me like, you know, Bob Chuggle was coming at me. Bob's so excited. That shit right back to him. And then he got there. And nigga, that's what you was up there. I can like that for a moment. That shit. He got to play Ray Christ. You look at all that. You got that Fitty back. He's like, he's not boy. Niggas, wait. How? Niggas, I was juggling the motherfucking. Niggas, where were you at? Come on, nigga, where were the car? I think we go. Yeah, shit. We go to party tonight. What a motherfucking cow. Fitty back. You know, yeah, buddy, different at the time. You motherfucking like. Fitty cow. I don't mind. You're like, man, Chuggle. You got to walk. You get that. You want to play an old saying? Yeah, after that. You got to play an old man. That bullshit. Fuck the motherfucking. Shit back. Shit. Oh, thank you. Let's go. Shout out to him. Hey, nigga, let's go. What's the way we at? Oh. nigga. nigga was thinking. nigga was like, we just took back down the floor. The nigga took my Fitty. Yeah, nigga, I'm home. Can't get you home. I'm telling my homers, nigga. We're going to party when I jumped out of there. When I landed, me and nigga, we're going to party. We're going to catch up to you at this motherfucking joint. Ship jump. Well, got down. I said, got down. I said, what a shitty. I thought all that shit was canceled. That knew it was shouting my shit back. Let me ask you this question. How long was you in the league before and you had to go through some shit before you said you know what I'm going to chill? What did you, you just was, wow, you hold my fucking career. It wasn't you, you know. No, I chill. When I went to, I left Houston from the way I left Houston from the playoff game. Yeah, well, yeah, when I slept, well, I went to stands and slapped the motherfuckin' off. The fan shit. You know, talking about my steelborne daughter. So I went and did that in Portland, then. They bought Clyde in their Clyde Drexland. Yeah. And then, you know, they're my father. The first time I ain't never, my father did not say not one word. And then I was suspended for a whole motherfucking calendar month. And they go, hold, month, I had 10 games. So I was 10 games in a month. I was, my whole motherfucking month. So I, you would think, at least a motherfucker say, damn, Max, hey. I couldn't go to the facility. So I had to go somewhere else and work out. So I was like, goddamn, this motherfuckin' thing. Call him and tell him where to go and do what I need. You know, have somebody come work me out. So that shit was kind of strange. So I just went out with golf course. I just started golfing down. Hit my ball and watching them niggas. They was doing, you know, they went five and five, I guess. So, when I was sitting there watching the motherfuckers, and then, um, but when I came back, my motherfuckers ain't tell me. They had done, made a trade. Damn, Clyde Drexland came. And then I said, oh, damn, I saw the trade. But I was like, what the hell? These motherfuckers ain't called me and say, not damn, Max, we were thinking about going in another direction. You know, these motherfuckers just like, and so I came back, my suspension ended. So I came back and played. When I played, these motherfuckers wasn't even playing. And I was like, goddamn, what the fuck have? I got them all these motherfuckin' gains and gain winners. And motherfuckin' got that. What the fuck are these motherfuckers doing? These motherfuckers trippin' so, you know, I got to start like crazy now. Cause I'm trying to get the fuck outta here. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? You know what I mean? I got the real star, I could like a niggle. I'm trying to really get outta here. So we get to the playoffs, so just motherfuckers. Nah, I rule the tee, you ain't motherfuck. I love you, you're the tee. Rule the tee, he just did side not the playman gain won against Utah. And play me at the end of the game. And put me in the motherfuckers to make the gain winner. And I ain't played the whole motherfuckin' game. I ain't never had a DMP like that. You know, just motherfuckers. So I expected me to make the shot. So I just went in the motherfuck, I just throw the bitch up. And I was, he drove the play straight from me to make the shot. Cause you know, I'm used to makin' them motherfuckers. And I say, man, fuck you, you the tag winner then. Oh, that bitch is fuck the rockers too. I throw that bitch up there and the bitch almost winnin'. And I was like, oh, chill. Bitch, don't go in, bitch, oh, chill. That bitch is rarly man. That bitch's whole chill, bitch, don't do go in there. So, it did, but I mean, but then I left the tee after that. Because I felt disrespected. And then see, that's why I said, that's why I go around and y'all know I talk about mental health. That's something I, you know, I talk about a lot too. That's what I, I go around and talk to a lot of, I talk to a lot of, I talk to a lot of, North of state. I like, that's what I do. I talk to a lot of people about mental health. Because that's why I lost a lot of my motherfuckin' money at my mental. So I shouldn't even left that motherfuckers. If I had a state in Houston, see, I'd have been, you know, I'm, I'm a big fan of the state. You know, I, I mean, I had a guy, the money that I was supposed to really get. Yeah. But my mental state just fucked me up, you know, I bought it and I guess I was mad, Max, and all that dumb shit. So after a while, you bought into that shit, you mad, mad, mad, mad. Yeah, then, shit, the niggas won't go in there. And then I didn't even know, then White folks getting ready to give me more for the 20 million. You know, for five, shit, that's a lot of money back then. You know, a 93, 94 folk. You know what I mean? So for my dumb ass, I think I'm gonna tell them off of the fuck y'all. I'm leaving, I'm just fucking my fucking, I'm gonna get the hell out of here. My dumb ass left the team and shit. And then I end up going to fill it. That's where I came over to fill it. And I played with a stack house. I went to fill it twice. I played with stack house one time. And I played with a, well, eight, yeah, above a chuck the second time. So, yeah, yeah. Who told the motion to you on that court? You was playing. Shit, Mike. Mike, that month. What's the coldest shit he ever told you? Niggas got a laced in my fuckers up tight. I'm telling you when I first met the first time I was saying that, well, you tell me, Max, where you better be saying that I heard about you. I didn't know I was watching. I said, yeah, Niggas, I know you better. And Niggas better, he's saying, I tell you what, you better go down there and straying them off, fuckers up tight. I strong them off, fuckers up. So tight, I try to cut my motherfucker blood pressure off my motherfucker, fucker, I go nigga. He's my fucker, nigga. I got nigga put a guy there, wrote my ankle, nigga. I had the motherfucker so tight, nigga. That nigga said nigga. That's what he told me. I said, what is motherfucker? He had craze, boy. Who else knows shit? She talks shit. Man, that's so many of them. I got rebirth. Yeah, he called me a nigga. What? Yeah, that guy called us a nigga. Man, it's nigga named Buck Johnson. What? I played with him. I played with this one. I got first got traded over there at Houston. 89, 90. When I was just playing against Boston and I think I was playing in Houston. So you know, library got that long. Yeah, that's what he did that shot. Like he got, and he, I'm a fucker. And he, he punk, like that shit. And man, Buck, I was coming from behind. And he was like, what the fuck? He was like, what the fuck? He was like, what the fuck? He was like, what the fuck? He was like, what the fuck? I was coming from behind. And Buck was coming from the front because Buck was guarding my fuckers. Hey guys, it's Reyn Friend. If you're looking for a cola that delivers, Pepsi prebiotic cola is it because nothing beats that great Pepsi taste. It's delicious. It has three grams of prebiotic fiber, five grams of sugar, just 30 calories and no artificial sweeteners. It honestly tastes like Pepsi with so much more to love. Try it. Loved it. Pepsi prebiotic cola. You should pick some up if you haven't already. It's the perfect drink when you are ready to just relax, sit on the couch, watch a movie, and enjoy a delicious Pepsi prebiotic cola. So I was getting ready to swipe that shit and take the best out of that and throw it down. I thought I was, shit, I'm all fucked. Punk fake that said, man, we hit each other in half. Bam, we some kind of way. And we fell out of the ground. White boy, I will have bird there, look at that, his niggas get up off the ground. Knocked right here, I'll hold it down. Bam. What a thing. Yeah, that's my dog song. No, I'm a little bit of a song. I'm cooking you, man. That's why I ducked. That's why I ducked. I say, that's shit the other day. I hit one of the cup with one of two pieces. Dog hooked off on it that. Yeah, with the Dean. Who else? Who else cooked dog going for his head? Man, who else talk shit, man? So many of them are fucked, man. You got, I mean, Tim Hardaway. That motherfucker, the daddy. Yeah. The daddy. Tim Hardaway. That motherfucker, when he hits with that cross over shit. He's a beast. What? That motherfucker, when he pulled out three, that motherfucker was a talk shit. Man, that's so many motherfuckers. I know I'm missing a lot of you niggas, man. I mean, shit, I had a couple shots, Tito. I'm trying to figure this shit out. I mean. Let me ask you this question for the young ends desk looking. What's that? If you could, if you could change one situation in your career that you like, I wouldn't have did that. Well, I wouldn't have did that. What would have been? Oh, yeah, clearly. The bag when I was at the University of Florida when I was on the cocaine and the drugs and alcohol and all that stuff right there because that really started me out on the bad direction when I worked all my life to try to get to them where I was trying to go and buy for my family. So, yeah, that part right there, I would have been more disciplined with the drugs and drugs and things like that. That's that right there. So, let me say this, right? Even as being as green as you was, right? If you had that discipline and you had that guidance and you wasn't on drugs, how good do you think you really could have been? I think about that shit a lot right there and that's a great goddamn question, my name. I think about that a lot. She was killing Niggas all cocaine. Yeah, and that's what I keep saying. So, I don't even, that's a question that's hard for me to answer because I feel like if I wouldn't have did what I did, I don't think I would have made it. I think that was my story, that was my path and I think I overdid the shit sometimes, you know. But yeah, but I think, you know, I don't know if I could have, if I was had a father and I don't know, I don't know, I can't even think about it if I had a father. And I mean because when I think the drugs part right there, that's a part, if I just would have been more disciplined that part and I think not, you know, and still would have been doing a little bit of not all what like I did it, I did the shit all the motherfucker time. I mean, I was in a way to games. And I was like I was straight and I was getting, you know, like all that shit out, you know, so, you know, so, but if I just would have been better with that shit right there, then my dog. So you was playing in games on the yola sometimes. I damn you a bad motherfucker man, nigga hit a game went off the yola, the laptop, the lights is unbelievable. You know about it. You know about it. You know about it. You know about it. You know about it. You know about it. You know about it. A bunch of goddamn toilet paper over there on the side like, you know, you got the you blowing the whole game. My father looked at me and I mean, man, nigga, then he was a whole box toilet paper. You know, you got to get them cocaine bugs actually knows. You got the blood actually. Yeah, shit got coming. So you come out with the ball and the chemo toilet paper right there and they got us getting this. No, when I come to the bench, hey man, let me get the toilet paper man. They already know how. They thought of my shoulder. Grab, blah, blah. Blown. They got me a cup, put in the cup. Got them. I'm going back out there now. Oh man, I should've asked you a question. Did the coach ever come up to you like, listen man. Got a damn it Vernon. Slow down. Got damn it. Vernon, you're going. Well, I got out there. You're going 90 and a 55 Vernon. And they got there. And after, like, I mean, they came to me about it. You know, I mean, shit, I mean, I was at the bed. I went to drug we have centers and shit. They sent me there. I've been to drug we have centers and all that shit. Who was like, how did they find out? Did they already know from college so they was all over you? Oh, was it a motherfucking gay nigga walking you man? Nah, they called Vernon last night. I get nobody give me up. I gave myself up cause. But like I keep saying, I want to like to keep talking about the University of Florida. But I mean, but it was like, I mean, it was just known. I was at the University of Florida. I mean, I felt like I was getting cheated when they put their names in the hat. See, back in the day they put names in hat. In the hat. And then you get to pick name out of hat. You know, they come to a nigga, pick a nigga name out of hat. They pick a full place. And shit, they ever got them down week. My damn name's coming out of the damn hat. Full place for what? You're testing. They get to test the drug test. Oh, they were saying, you know what? They had your name in the 18 times. Yeah, the bunch of slips in the 18 times. Exactly, exactly. So that's what we figured out. We got it. Cause we know there's a nigga on this shit. So that's when they said, you know, your first time, you know, they say they're kind of mean. They feel the test. They're trying to come to you. All right, nigga. Watch your motherfucking stuff now. All right. So I'll be like, all right, I ain't gonna do it no more. You're that cool, okay? Hard to get off of. So second tie, they can't tell me. Now they say nigga, we got to call your parents. Yeah, ain't my mom. Damn, man. I want y'all to tell my mom. My mom, you know, I was on this shit. So I was like, damn, man. I want y'all to tell my mom. Came out there, they told my mom. So not my mom. My mom let her in. You got that. What's going on, nigga? You all right? Yeah. I damn you. I'm brought up like this. So now, the third time, you get, you're supposed to get kicked out of school. So damn, when they caught me in the third time, I was like, oh shit. I'm sitting there on a muffled. I got you know, old ass nigga. You know, we got water beds back there. And I, nigga's rocking on the water bed just wondering what the hell these motherfuckers are doing to my dumb ass. So I was sitting there with my motherfuckers. So they came to me. They gave me a turn. They say, all right, just put the fuck you got to do. My fucker, you got to even go to the ready sports center in Orlando and try to handle this. You know, in the off season. You got to leave. So I said, oh, shit, I go over there. So I had to stay in my fuckers. So I was a third day program. Shit, I went to that motherfucker. I stayed in my fucker. Probably about 20 days, man. After that, man. I couldn't keep saying. They wanted me to keep saying I'm a drug addict and I'm an alcoholic and shit. And I was both on, but goddamn, I just got fed up. That's shit. So I walked out. So he didn't even say hi. I'm burning nice. Well, I'm addicted to cocaine. There was a road to recover. That's what it is. That's what it is. See, they kicked him out of the first time. We kicked him out of the first time. We kicked him out of the first time. The jobstrap won. They kicked him right out. They said, that's shit. We don't want the other kids to get exposed to this dude. He came out of the truck till his legs. Jobstrap won. They lay up on it. He came out of the truck. He came running right out of the locker room. So he started doing layups. He's like, oh, chase him. You get any other chase around? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I believe that shit. So, yeah. Well, yeah, man, I was it, man. So, yeah, man. But what the bulk of the story is, what you asked me, the question, the question was good question. And, yeah, man. Just be true to yourself, man. When you look yourself in the mirror, just be able to say, damn, I know I'm doing the right shit. And be a good kid. And work hard, man. Don't let nobody out working. And be a motherfuckin dog. Because I get tired of seeing these kids. When they leave from high school and they go to college, they become a totally different player. No, man. That's be who you are when you get to college, man. Fuck that shit. They're a guy that I'm dog. You use a score in motherfuckin dog, score in high school and use a defender. Use a great rebound. And go into college, being a motherfucker. Don't forget who the fuck you are. That part right there. That's what it's about, man. Now, we got to see this. Everybody, man, we got to get burned on the Houston Rock. It's all the fame, man. That's the way it went, man. Like how he's not... Yeah. The Houston, no more. Here's what the fuck do we do. Well, we know, man. We want to haul a fame, bring him on a stab to talk to these guys. Let's just do what's right. For real, for real, for real. We ain't asking for no hookups. No, no. We ain't asking for hookups. We just asking for you to do what's right. The players' association need to get you... They need to get you a position over there to talk to the players. Because if there's anybody here can tell them what not to do, that would be you. And I keep saying, like, when these motherfuckin' kids come from the drought, and they have their life, they little... I spoke with one. See, that's what I keep saying. Why don't you want me coming in and tell this motherfuckin' story I got to tell. I mean, about these bitches can ready to trap you off, nigga. Yup, right. And you know, don't be fucking the same. Don't be swapping bitches like these niggas doing in there. It's just weird. I... Niggas, niggas. Niggas, I would never touch nothing you got. You know, niggas, so many bitches out here. Man, what the fuck I'm gonna do that shit for? So these niggas be like touching the same women in the shit out there. Who, who, who y'all wanna do that niggas? I ain't doing that. I'm sold. I guess I guess old-fashioned. Yeah. We don't do that part right there. But yeah, that's what these niggas are. Get them purses I actually got them, man. And take them, got them skirts off. And then heels and shit. What else I wanna say? In his back. I just wanna vent for a second. He's gonna get some shit on her. Oh shit, man. Man, and, yeah, man, and, yeah, man. Don't be worried about the outfit you put on for you coming to the game, man. I mean, shit, we could have wore sweatsuits in my fuck of shit. Y'all gonna wear sweatsuits every game. This niggas we have a Pope 5 outfits on the bed. No, because now it's about, you know, niggas gotta get the Instagram posts for footy going. See, y'all weren't about Instagram, I was weren't about ballin'. Niggas is weren't about they fit on the walkin' niggas. I know when I'm walkin' niggas and I'm gonna get a picture from that. I get the post dead on my, y'all niggas was weren't about coming to the ringin' front and ballin'. The wrong reason. So, it's why this niggas game, so up and down, you know, so up and down. You know, you gotta keep that shit, that means stay. Well, you be who you are, man. I mean, not just be the shit, they'll be killin' me. But other than that, man, shit, what else we talkin' about, baby? I love it. Now, listen, man, before we get out of here, I just wanna say, man, shout out to you for being a legend. Everything about your story is real as you. It's your journey. It's not. Life ain't perfect. It ain't designed the way people think it's supposed to be. Well, you gotta talent, man. And people wanna profit off your talent. There's somethin' that might come with that. And that's about not letting people go when times get hard for them, trying to figure out how to make it better for them. A lot of people might have gave up on you, huh? They could've said, damn, if people ain't like this, how are we, you know, and I think sometimes they gotta put more systems together for moments like this and gotta be more proactive. Like, even you coming in here to talk to the players is amazing, because you got a real story. Like, your story is really real and these guys need to hear it. Like, even getting trapped about a woman, just the drugs, the parties. One party can lead to cocaine addiction. Absolutely. Being an alcoholism, like, you know, just, but I just think. My son might drop something in a damn drink. They drop something that you drink is over. You damn sandshows. They drop a little Mickey, you gotta be got a call to Mickey and Prisoner, shit. You know, I slipped a Mickey and Prisoner. Like, he never came back like this whole, his whole... Won't cup him and a nigga was in the same jumper. He like, he's like, he's the lady come back from the Jockstrap incident, man. That thing, it's called him Jake. They called him Jake at the J.S. Jockstrap. Like, bro, you ran out of the joint out of the locker room. Lay out! You got a Jockstrap on of here, Jersey. They had to get rid of him, had to. Like, a cup on. You've got to put a shot on. You've got to put a shot on. You've got to put a shot on. It wasn't burning and laughing. No, you know. It was going to be a halftime. Like, I got six. Shit. It's time to turn up. You know, crazy. Burning in the next world now is 27. You're a fool. You're a crazy man. No, man, this is crazy. I can't hold your mouth. You got to the point, motherfucker. Fuck you ever man, first half. You like this, man, first half and fluttering to the team. He's like, this you break this shit out. You never lose. That's the worst. You're my fucking wanker set. You know what I'm going to do? Break this shit out. Okay. Burn. Come to the back for me. Go ahead, man, get that shit. Go, go, go, go. Why are you saying, fuck it, the match, you're not going to roll. Began. Yeah. Mad matches, mad. Love me, it's taking a rock. Yeah, it's taking a rock. Yeah, it's taking a rock. You know what the competition is? Did it made Max? Yeah. Did it made Max? Yeah. He's on fire. He's on fire. He's on fire. He won between the legs. 20, stop. Ah. Ah. Ah. Ah. Ah. Ah. Ah. Ah. Damn, man. No. No. We get the competition. Did it made Max? Man. He's on fire. He's 27 from a 3-point race. You're crazy. Well, let's see, why are you telling me? Max, they're going to tell him about Max. I did. Yeah, all his tricks. They go crazy on him and all that. The whole team on the bench, he's still up here. How many times have you been up? You get right to the bench. How many times have you dribbled two minutes? Two times. I'm going to tell the people. I'm going to tell them these were two things. You're the curse. The curse, why are you telling you? Why are you telling me this technique was so hard? I can't be far. I think I'll be far. The whole thing. Because you know what? He goes to the game, David Bayer, the hand down. He turns into the whole thing and he can walk for certain break. This shit up. No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! But I'm starting to see that my play and really was fucking for real That's why I'm niggas was having 19 tackles in one game Everybody that do that shit turn into the hawk That's crazy I can't let him talk about the cowboy Next they say that every year that's y'all every year look that's our marketing We next year That's like that's like the slogan like they say a dollar's cowboys next year We gonna win it next year you always say this year office Remember Romo was there y'all were seeing it every year. Well, I did not say that with me I didn't like that my father I can't stand that but you like that you like that. Yes, stay the same player Like that's how a dad dude like that's always you know for doing here with that It's a deck stolen move from him and the niggas name low him and That's old enough was low him it wasn't a little Kim that one that that is Top two three quarterbacks, and you know, but he win a Winner Like that and that's sad you saying that coming from a champion You know that's even like you a Texas champion too Keep it real next you keep it real if Bubba Chuck won two championships Just two of them they be saying he top five me The reason why Bubba pound the reason why Bubba dropped down because he never got no championships I still that motherfucker there. He was That motherfucker's toughest motherfucker. He's a beast. Oh my goodness motherfuckers getting knocked all over the place And the small fuck get his last up. I'm gonna hide a small fucking hang where I'm past like this niggas where paths now This nigga have a hip pads ass pass die pass I'm like y'all will pass this thing I don't know this niggas plan football the basketball what the fuck this nigga's padded up for but we used to go straight out there Bearback Oh, that's what he did when he came over His cheeks was out like like you remember when press when he came out we had the pants with the cheeks up He came to They chase him around they chase him around the job all as jock track. Yeah, they chase him around the job He's all I Yeah, so me and I was worth a game Bernie is legend legend Bernie Max one fucking brother It's just like that right