From 30 for 30 podcasts Brian Pada senior defensive lineman from Miami gunned down The key to this case it's blind I before he died he was on a phone arguing what's about this might be a hit you want to truth They just want a conviction in place your rest We had a killer monster murder at the U listen now Part of the interruption, but I'm Mike Lilbon. I'm told it's make your dream come true day Tony Do you have a dream you'd like to come true? I'm Tony cornerizer. I do but it involves a flight to Turkey and a hair transplant surgeon I'm having trouble vetting so I don't see it coming true. I don't Turkey you get hair. Yeah, you get here a lot closer than Turkey Yeah, but you know you fly on Turkish hair lines I think they're not I've done it because you see you see all these guys coming back in the back of their heads I've little dots where they've apparently inserted hair, you know that might be fun or maybe not I'm gonna be T.I boys and girls And today's episode the Texans defense dominates Joe Mazula reiterates and Jeff Saturday Conversates for five good minutes, but we begin today with Mike Thomas stepping down his head coach To the Steelers following last night's playoff loss to the Texans Tomlin has led the team for 19 years without a losing season But the Super Bowl winner has dropped his last seven playoff games and the team hasn't won in the postseason in nine years Well, but Tomlin is just 53. Where do you see him and the Steelers going from here? I don't see him going with the Steelers anywhere since he is stepped down The Steelers will go and do what they haven't had to do very often in their history Which is going to select a coach? You know, I mean Chuck no Bill Cower, you know, it doesn't happen very often so they'll do that I'm sure they've had their eyes on a string of a short string of candidates for weeks because Tony going back to when they were the booze or Mike Tomlin was booed and people suggested fans and Pittsburgh to be fired I ever think and then Mike Tomlin needs this Really he needs this I know he makes a lot of money He's making whatever in the teens of millions of dollars up between 13 16 million dollars. He can make more than that in TV That's where I expect him to go. I told you weeks ago Mike Tomlin can reset Television as a form of entertainment football as a form of entertainment on television in a way that nobody has since John Madden And that may be new ways we don't know about it may be one of the existing ways with a existing network or platform I don't know. I'm not a television executive But Mike Tomlin who you have love to hear talk and talk to for 20 years You know Mike Tomlin would be great at that. Why does he need coaching? It's been forever He's gonna make more than 20 million dollars no matter what he does without the stress. I don't see him coaching next year I don't Okay, so let me take a few things at a time There was a very interesting name being mentioned on the internet as the next coach of the Steelers and that's Kurt Signetti Yeah, he would be very interesting. I think he's from that area So I just wanted to throw that one out there at somebody else's idea look Last night after that game It would have been fair to say in any discussion. Did we just see the last of Aaron Rogers and we just see the last of my Tomlin yeah in Aaron Rogers's case He was looked old. He looks sort of creaky and and he's a you know He's got physical demands that a certain that a certain point can't do anymore Mike Tomlin's only 53 years old A lot of guys coaching and legal to an impshot patents older than Mike Tomlin for example I don't know if he wants to coach again John Harbour wants to coach again wants to coach right away Maybe Mike Tomlin does as well if Atlanta looks good for John Harbour looks just as good for Mike Tomlin So one of the things that we don't know tv is fine to mention I don't know if he wants to do television nobody really knows what he wants to do I think the questions that are out there are Essentially Well everybody wonders did he jump or was he pushed? That's not what the runies do the runies don't do that as a rule I always thought that if he was going to leave that would be one of those things It's a cliche mutually agreed upon but I believe the respect was such between Tomlin and the runies that it would have been Mutually agreed upon yeah, you know, it's the bell rang I'm just going to say that I always thought he was a great coach I'm confident he's a Hall of Fame coach But it is true and I would never have joined that group chanting fire Tomlin No, but I it is undeniably true that the playoffs have been terrible for him lately Tell me even if they hadn't been lost in this seven long as enough 19 years of that kind of stress in today's in it This is in George Hallis's NFL and George Hallis by the way broke his 40 years of coaching up into four groups of 10 years he didn't even try to go 19 my long time you're sitting in the same seat for 25 years I took what's long to one is not long to somebody else. I mean I I do expect him to coach again. I think you do you expect the coward to talk to coach again too And I ran the bill coward down the street from this studio one day was wrong and he said do me a favor wrong tell Tony I'm never coming back To okay, but others do I'm just saying I'm just saying You missed that break. I took that four-year break got me through the next you know four and a half You don't remember that no you're 25 25 we move now same chair to last night's final wild card game That 30 to six dropping of the Steelers by visiting Houston. This wasn't much of a game Houston had three turnovers in interception and two fumbles by CJ Strout and still the Steelers couldn't score touchdown Aaron Rogers had two turnovers at game Houston 14 including possibly ending his career on a pick six Tell what did you make of what you saw? I believe I had that right. I believe I said to you That Houston was going to win that game and they were gonna win the game comfortably because the Pittsburgh Steelers Really don't have much of an offense and they haven't had much of an offense since Ben Rothisper No, I mean they really haven't they don't have a quarterback They tried Kenny Pickett and they tried Mason Rudolph and they tried Justin Fields and they tried Russell Wilson And now they're trying Aaron Rogers and Aaron Rogers last night Aaron Rogers if I have this right through the bull 33 times For a total of 146 yards. That's just not enough You know he was sacked four times intercepted once fumbled once the entire Steelers offense had 175 yards You can't win with that. Houston has a very good defense. We are aware of that. They're very solid team They have won 10 games in a row and CJ Strout did basically nothing less. I didn't need them They didn't need them because they were that dominant. So I mean, I look at this Where do they go next? They go to New England, I believe I think that's a winnable game for them, but there's Drake may is a lot better running with the ball than Aaron Rogers is Well, this game he's a lot better than a lot of things look at Aaron Rogers is going to wear a gold jacket in five years And let's see guess he decides to place them more He's been one of the greats to to ever do this And but times up. It's it's okay It's okay. It's no indictment of Aaron Rogers's greatness doesn't need to be questioned Then you can't take it back He won a Super Bowl. It was surprised the Packers didn't get to more of them while he was playing But but but but you looked at that last night's own and that was one of those deals Would it look like an old Muhammad Ali climbing into the ring against like Trevor Burpick And he was gonna get a beat down and that's that all right So that's what we saw and and and who was I gonna mention? I was gonna mention will Anderson and to deal hunter my god They they put it on you and Pittsburgh had no answer for them They weren't gonna have an answer for them and the question is will the Patriots in an offensive line Which is sort of vulnerable? haven't answered for them Houston the Houston Texans. I don't know what they have enough offense to go much further But they got enough defense to hurt you At the beginning of the year If someone suggested to you that in the same division Both Mike Tomlin and John Harboh would be out at the end of the year They had been in that division for nearly 20 years if both were out you would have said what I would have said no way You know Tony no way I would have said no way But then you think about the 18 and 19 years respectively. I'm not kidding about that This this in that fell this is not I mean how John Madden only coached what 11 years? 10 years 18 and 19's a long long time And he reads out there a long time Bill Belichick was there a long time Let's move to the NBA in a sound bite from Boston Celtics coach Joe Mazula last night Mazula was apparently nift that the officials did not call an illegal screen on Indiana's Pascal see-accom just before the Pacers winning basket by see-accom after the game Mazula had this interesting monologue Joe gave yourself the chance to win. I guess take us to the last couple sessions A legal screen What do you say a legal screen a legal screen a legal screen What fell apart to get you guys behind and then how we get we get by Legal screen What do you want people to go illegal screen Would you like to see it? A legal screen Illegal screen Well, Bob are you okay with how Joe Mazula handled the post game press conference? I You know I told our producers this this afternoon when I came in and we were talking about this Because it's a story there's no question about it I don't know that I would have dignified this with even showing the clip Because if Joe Mazula doesn't have the stones to go after the officials go after them in full sentences Go after them in full sentences Because if you're player jalen brown who I have the ultimate respect for I love jalen brown He did it. He's a player. He did it the coach can't do it illegal screen really you're not rushied Wallace It wasn't funny. It had an agenda Rishi did not have an agenda This had an agenda. This just irritates me and it seems soft Just a fill in the blanks for people Rishi Wallace is famous for saying both teams play Hard hard both teams play hard makes you smile even now done it Yeah, Mazula fixated on illegal screen I understand that after a while when you say it 10 times it sounds like you're doing a Saturday night live Skit I imagine it's an 82 game season Everybody's going to be passed this by Friday, but I can see Mazula today Talking to people and saying illegal screen and I he will keep doing it Until Bradst even pulls him aside and says okay, let it go I will say this Mike and in the games that I watch and it's this is an ongoing thing There's a lot of things that are not called players Travel players charge players bump nobody draws an offensive foul anymore Nothing is called and I think it's because the referees look at these players The the game is played so fast and the players are so athletically gifted that they pretty much just let them play But I think he ought to lean into it Mazula to get a sweater made that says illegal The league the league is absolved him by saying it was illegal screen. That's right. What's what's so so his players It never set in illegal screen. This is the first illegal screen in the damn history of professional basketball Nobody should try to get a patent on it let pack Riley did with three feet. Let's take a break Coming up and we'll get back into Mike Tomlinson decision to step down with Jeff Saturday And we'll ask about the Eagles big change at O.C Every March are brackets the only thing you can think about do you have symptoms such as constant bracket obsession or moderate to severe bracket related distractions you may be living with bracket brain Thankfully, there's ESPN Tournament Challenge the number one proven way to treat bracket brain right at the source So this March download the ESPN Tournament Challenge app fill out your men's bracket and get you and your brain in the game ESPN Tournament Challenge play the number one bracket game Presented by all state 911 where is the emergency? It's the middle of the night in a small town on the Jersey Shore Someone reports an abandoned car on a bridge a search gets underway for the missing driver 19-year-old Sarah Stern is it a missing person? Is it a suicide? At this point nobody knows Old friendships Buried cash and a sinister plot that was once pitched as a movie plays out in real life I'm juju Chang from 2020 and ABC audio listen now to bridge of lies wherever you get your podcasts We've got some football questions for our great friend ESPN NFL analyst Jeff Saddei we will start with the news of the day you played Against Mike Tomlin Steelers you coached against Mike Tomlin Steelers What are your thoughts on his decision to step down? Oh first first of all Mike Tomlin is a hall of fame and I could not respect a coach probably more than I respect him the way that he's carried himself the way that he's You know he's really been the face honestly of the Steelers Since since you know we got good in Indianapolis I mean you look at him and what he was and the battles that we all had the defenses that he built with Rothless Burger and the triple B's or whatever it was like you watched all these different phases and all the different comments He makes to the press Everything he said you hung on every word. He's just that kind of guy's got that kind of personality And I'm gonna miss seeing him in that way. I think he's a he's a heck of a head coach I hope he goes back and does it somewhere else. I'm not sure if that'll be this year or in the future But I know this everybody who lined up under Mike T. Appreciate them They loved the way he did it the way he went about his business And we're gonna miss him we're gonna miss him being a Steelers head coach But just in the NFL as a whole because he's that good one And slightly less urgent news Jeff as you know the Eagles today dumped off into coordinator Kevin Pettulo What's right me yeah, yeah, what primarily looked wrong with the Eagles offense to you And is it I mean they change offensive coordinators like every week Every year how fixable is what is wrong with them? Well, it's very fixable they they're loaded with talent. So you got two really good receivers They got a great tied in they got you know great back They got a quarterback who's one championships and has has played at elite levels And so you got a great defense or an elite defense. So all the pieces and parts are there I think from the Pettulo side of it is they never found consistency and they never found their identity And I think where I would say that you know midway through the year member It was all the AJ Brown and I needed more touches and I I need to be a larger part And they tried to make that happen he was the most targeted receiver for like three games But they lost all three games and they went back They just never really found their flow and then I'll be honest this last game This is not really on Pettulo like I mean I get it like It was it was it a thing a beauty was a masterpiece. No, but they got the ball You know and they got guys dropping the ball three or four different drops on third down They got the Devonte Smith drop on on in the 10 yard line you got first in 10 from the 20 with a minute 28 The Eagles usually win those games and unfortunately they did not and so I think ultimately there's got to be a scapegoat But Pettulo took takes that wrap this year and they're going to move on to to somebody else and and be back right and They're right in the fray of the Super Bowl next year During the Jacksonville Buffalo game When Josh Allen is involved in about a 10 yard Tush push Yeah, you were the person I immediately thought of what the Saturday think about this and now we have the chance to ask you Because I know greenie lost his mind. I'm trying to dismiss that Jeff is this good is it's not good for football. What were your thoughts? Oh I freaking love it baby pick them up and tote that dude do it run over dominate the humans in front of you run over them I absolutely love it listen I you I can't stand the hole we hate the Tush push word this It drives me nuts no one could do it as well as Philly now all the sudden Buffalo does it They picked their guy up a 240 plus pound quarterback who's a massive human being with a cape on and runs them all the way I love it. I'm all I'm here for until it can be stopped. I love it I'm all about it. That's physicality at its best It's pretty much what football was based on my guy right? I think it was a seven on seven now. They want to throw it all over the yard When you can take that dude in front of you and drive him eight yards and double bonus back good on you Bro, that's how football should be played We have it there. We have we will get you out of here on this It's a survey question of sorts which of the wild card winners I guess there are six of them which of the wild card winners impressed you the most Oh the bills I going against that one of the hottest teams in Jacksonville and going down to Jacksonville and And finding a way to win right? I think that is I mean it was an electric win Josh Allen again four different times. I think the dude's gonna be out of the game I mean he's getting these taking shots and the concussion protocol all of it man And you just they keep fighting through it. It just shows you the toughness of the team I absolutely love that game and I think Jacksonville what Liam Cohen's done with them man Tip of the cap that they were they were playing fantastic ball for them to go down there and get that win That was special again Everybody talks about Josh Allen's best opportunity to win a Super Bowl because certain people aren't in it His teammate is good as they were either and so he's having to do more with less and he's doing it Those other guys give them credit man. They responded and they make plays and they made enough plays to find a way to beat Jacksonville That was my favorite of the week All right, thank you Jeff as always great gesture to have you thank you much. Appreciate you all have a great one Let's take one last break still to come the PGA tours new returning member program Seems to exclude a few very famous golfers is that fair or foul and Jim Harbour makes a change To the charges You know, we are all universally impressed with what Josh Allen did in that game Because it was him is amazing. It was him amazing performance Happy time people happy 73rd birthday Bob Baffer The controversial horse trainer had a suspension lifted by Churchill Downs in 2024 and his saddling horses again in the Kentucky Derby which he has won six times Most notably with triple crown winners American Farrow in 2015 and justifying 2018 Baffer six Kentucky Derby wins are the most friendly current train Baffer also has eight pre-disk winners the most all time and three Belmont winners for total of 17 triple crown race wins More trophies than he can probably fit on his mantle piece DeWayne Lucas had 15 such wins Baffer and Lucas were the biggest names in American training over the last 40 years My question is we come up on a horsey season is are your horse he's gonna run or they're gonna sit out back to backs and eliminate even a possibility Of a triple crown they're gonna do that Happy anniversary Miami dolphins on this day 52 years ago the dolphins won the Super Bowl for the second straight year This one a 24 to seven win over the Vikings came one year after the dolphins legendary 17 and 0 team The only unbeaten team in NFL history football historians might argue that the 1973 team was actually better than the 1972 team despite finishing the season 12 and 2 the argument is made that the 72 team played a notably soft schedule And a 73 team had to play powerhouses like the Raiders Steelers and Cowboys and did so with an obvious target on their backs Will Bonwell you make that argument? I will I was no historian at 15 years old But I do remember Tony that that that follow-up season thinking wow This is a much tougher schedule and it's just harder to do even if you can't say there is great because they weren't underfeated Don't you wish we could ask Don Shula the great Don Shula the late great Don Shula participate in that discussion Happy trails to a cross-checking call against the Red Wings when time running out and over time last night Detroit's Andrew cop knocked down Carolina defenseman Shane look at that spare from behind then collected a pass and buried it for the game winner There are games are so hot about that non-qual the two of them including gots a spare got 10 minute misconducts for language They directed at the rest and while we're talking hockey shout out to the University of Minnesota is Abby Murphy for her insane Assist on Saturday night Murphy lifted the puck in the air then knock it down and through the defenders legs Wow, you are pushing it over to a teammate for the goal one handed one handed pass But the cross-check come on now, man It's just gutless to not make that call what just because it's overtime you swallow the whistle I don't know it's not a great week for officiating Let's go to the big finish the charges fired offensive coordinator Greg Roman does that make sense? It all does kind of it's big blame week in the NFL you get eliminated or your seasons over Fire somebody the Cardinals traded third baseman Nolan Aeronautil to the debacks. That's a big deal, isn't it? Well, he's a great defensive third baseman, but he's gonna be 35 as offense is down a little bit But if a fathom's interview John Harboy yesterday. Do you like that fit? Yes For anybody who really wants to coach a team loaded with talent particularly on the offensive side Yes, the PGA tours new returning member program Would seem to exclude feel Dustin Johnson and Patrick Reed your thoughts Feels 55 years old. DJ hasn't won much lately. Nobody actually likes Patrick Yeah, I'm one. I'm beaten number two. I was state at Kansas tonight. We got at Kansas is the key phrase there. You know, I got We're out of time. We were trying to be better the next time. I'm Tony corn hunt and I'm Mike Lovon same time tomorrow