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One thing that's kind of cool about these is that they are using the 3D knitting technology that Apple literally invented. I think that's kind of interesting and cool. My insane or is every knit 3D? Well, everything is 3D because you're really 3D in the world. But I don't know, I want to touch it, I guess. It's not interesting. I don't want to buy it. It's not interesting, but I do want to touch it. But someone, I'm not going to say any names, was in to slack this morning asking if Apple had sent it. Yeah, I wanted to brush one. I shoot on the podcast. Yeah, what is up, people of the internet? Welcome back to another episode of The Waveform Podcast. We're host, I'm Mark Hez. I'm Andrew. And I'm Nintendo Switch 2. And we're back. And this episode, we've got a $200 sock. You'll understand what that means in a second. Grand Theft Auto VI is delayed, e- and frame impressions, a new Spotify weekly wrapped, and we looked together some main channel metrics for smartphone season. Because numbers are fun. They are. Wow. That's a lot of stuff. That's a wide variety. Because it's tech-vember. It doesn't rock a little more than that. We can't call it tech-vember when we were scrounging to talk about stuff this week. Yeah, not as many new things are coming out. That's what September and October, tech-tember and October are mostly about. And then everything's on the shelf for the holiday season, which is basically starting now, because people are buying things around Thanksgiving and Black Friday and Saturday and all that. Like socks. Is that the first thing we should talk about? Apple socks? I'm done. I feel like we already teed it up. It's the news. It's the news of the week. It actually is the news of the week. It's unfortunately the news of the week. Unfortunately, it's the week. So here's what happened. Apple released a new Fashion Collab product. We've seen many Fashion Collab products from tech companies before with the likes of Supreme and whatever, other fashion brands. This one being more popular overseas. It is essentially an iPhone case that is knit and looks like a sock, basically. Yeah, there's two of them. There's one one. And a short one. Yes. And they start at $149 and $229? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. So the last time Apple did a Fashion Collab was Air Mazz in 2015. So it was quite over the last one? Yeah. Quite a while ago, which makes sense. So this is the same guy that the guy that designed the iPhone was it called? It's called the iPhone Pocket. Yeah. Not to be confused with the Game Boy Pocket. Which was awesome. Which is also awesome. But it's the same guy. I'm about the same price. Probably the same price. Same guy that designed Steve Jobs' Turtle Neck. So it seems that Apple is going with a heritage play here. And he's like, but yeah, you get two options. It's called iPhone Pocket because the whole idea of it was to have an additional pocket on you that you could carry your iPhone with. And there's a crossbody one. That is the bigger one. That's the $230 one. And then there's one that is much shorter that is made to be sort of like carried around your wrist and also tied to things. That kind of stuff. It's just so incredibly easy to dunk on this. I will say there's one thing I like about these. The colors. The colors are dope. They're bright. They're insane. They're saturated. They're good colors. They're confident. They're bold. Because the iPhones we all know, don't have bold saturated colors. Look at the, you see the iPhone in the blue thing. It's like a dark blue. But then you have real blue and real orange. I would argue that the orange is a bright saturated bold color. It's the brightest and saturated and most bold they've done. But still compared to these threads. Yeah, it's just that every single press photo of them with this bag, I just, it really looks like satire. Oh yeah, it does. It does. That one looks like the Bore app bathing suit. Yeah. That was, I tweeted this and that was one of the highest. And maybe that's just fashion. I think like, I understand. Look, the reason this feels, it feels very easy to dunk on for us is because we're in Western media and Asian countries. These crossbody bags, these like smaller sling things are very, very, very popular. Yeah, that another one they launched earlier this year. Arguably it's the reason they launched the crossbody strap for the iPhone Air. Yeah. So there's that. It's just that, you know, this looks like something that your grandma could make on Etsy. Every designer club is easy to dunk on because they're all extremely expensive. Like the, the airmate, airmate, I don't know. Airmen, airmen, airmen's Apple Watch bands work $200 plus. Right. Which is like, obviously they're well made and they look really nice. And I'm sure they're all fancy looking, but like, yeah. It's, it's a $200 Apple Watch band. So, yeah. Anytime and this, this goes way back. The Supreme Collapse, the other collabs that tech companies do with fashion brands are just, if you're not in the target demographic, it seems insane. Yeah. And we are not in the target demographic, so it seems insane. Also, those Apple Watch bands are way more than $200. There are maze ones. $350, $450. This metal one is $1,000. Yep. Nice. There you go. Just pay more than the watch. So I mean, one thing that's kind of cool about these is that they are using the 3D knitting technology, the Apple literally invented. So I think that's kind of interesting and cool. My insane or is every knit 3D? Well, everything is 3D because if you're really 3D world. But I don't know. I want to touch it, I guess. It's not interesting. I don't want to buy it. It's not interesting, but I do want to touch it. But someone, I'm not going to say any names, was in to slack this morning asking if Apple had sent it. Yeah, I wanted to brush. I, I shoot on the podcast. No, it's surprising they didn't send this as a review unit. I feel like they've in the past not sent review units of things they didn't really have a lot of faith. Well, again, it's made for the Asian market. So it's like clearly to us. This is, I don't know, is heck. They've sent some weird review unit things and they didn't send this. They also didn't send the, was it the 13 inch M1 touch bar? Oh, remember they didn't send that to us? Oh, when we were ducky on that because they like kept the touch bar. Yeah, well, it's just a weird release. And they sent, they neglected to send it before we dunked on it. But we went out and bought one. And I'm pretty sure the guy at the Apple store was like, yeah, wait, this says it's for, didn't you guys get one of these? I was like, nope. And they're like, oh, that's weird. Yeah. No, I think this is just so firmly targeted towards Japan. Like they talk about Japan a lot. Very formal. They say it's crafted in Japan. It's obviously a Miyaki collab. Like this is, they released the time zone dropped in like the Japan time zone. So it was like the middle of the night for us. So it's, it's not for us. I'm just going to say it's firmly not for me. Yeah. But it is, it is really funny that we wake up when we see a new $200, $300 sock to hold dry phone. And we're like, wow. That's a new thing Apple did. Throw back to the iPod sock. Yeah, it's actually what, yeah, which costs like $30 or something. Was it? It was much cheaper. It was much cheaper. I threw that in Slack and Tim thought I had Photoshopped it to try and trick him. And I was like, no, man, these were real. And there was, there was for the iPod and the iPod. I had one for my iPod. Nice. They were really done. Yeah. Yup. Yeah, I don't know, man. I'm a little confused at this because I do, I am one of those people that has like a little man purse thing. Yeah. And I have like a little side strap bag that I put my phone and sometimes when I'm going out, whatever. But it has like a zipper and like a flap to close over the top to secure it. Yeah, this is just like, yeah, like the phone is just like exposed. Well, it's not really, it goes in the slit and then it sinks to the bottom. But then like, but it is kind of just like prime. It's like a pocket. It's like a pocket thing. It looks like a pocket. It's like a pocket. It's like a pocket. It looks like when you put a bunch of quarters in a sock to like beat someone up. When do you do that? You don't do that? Andrew does that all the time. Yeah, man. I get stuff done so much. I, the fashion people can have their moment that I'm happy for Japan. I wonder what their next collab will be. Place your bets now because they'll be wrong. For just 10 years ago was the last one. Yeah, we'll be wrong about the next one. Mariah called it the Thneed from the Lorax. Do you remember that? No idea what that is. Also, it's a piece that's a garment from the Lorax. Dr. Seuss, which I then pulled up the Seuss fandom. And it says the Thneed is a highly versatile object knitted from the foliage of a truffle tree. According to the one slur, it's a find something that all people need. It costs $3.99 approximately $30 adjusted for inflation. According to the Lorax. It's very, they're on top of that. Speaking of very versatile things, like a pocket, the OnePlus 15 dropped finally this week. We're all seeing the designs and seeing all the specs. And it's finally, finally, finally, finally, fully official and out. And it's kind of a monster phone. It's a very interesting phone. A very unlike the usual spec bump refresh that we see. This is prime Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5 time when whoever wants to be first in that wave and come out with a new phone with a new chip just drops a new phone. This one is the new chip, but also a new design and also a new screen and also a whole bunch of new specs and also a new software and also this crazy build quality and also a way worse set of cameras. I was just about to say that. Yeah. So I can talk about any of this. The review is up by the time you are listening to this podcast or watching us here. So if you want to check that out, full review is out there. But what do you guys think about this new phone? So this is a phone that is the Oppo by any other name, right? This is the Oppo, it's basically the Find X9 Pro. Yeah, minus the good cameras. That goes so good. And this is the sandstone one. And if you hold it, you will like it even more because it's like soft touch. I was so disappointed that you were telling me the cameras were bad because looking at that camera and you holding it and walking around, I was like, oh my God, that thing is beautiful. I had a moment where I was like, I loved using the rest of this phone so much. I was like, well, I do have the hassle of my backpack. Maybe I just don't take pictures on my phone anymore. And I had like a week where I just, that's right. That's how we do it. So it is that good. So they dropped the hassle, you can just talk about the camera. They dropped the hassle of the branding. Yeah. They dropped a lot of the hassle. No more X-pan mode. No more X-pan mode, no more iron shutter button. They do still have that sound though. That like the leaf shutter clunk sound. Oh, really? So they didn't totally wipe everything. But the sensors are all smaller, the apertures are all smaller, the photos are all worse, the videos are all worse, they're all no easier, the colors are dollar, everything is worse about the cameras. Is the shutter button still orange? No. Yeah. I don't think it would look good on that. The best part. This phone looks good already. It's the virtual shutter. Oh, the virtual shutter buttons aren't. It feels good. Tell me there's still the X-pan mode though. There's not. Which way is my real X-pan photo is much more valuable. Yeah. But all the other parts of this phone are A plus. I'm not exaggerating. Like the specs and the performance, the Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5, which is paired with LPDDR5X Ultra Plus RAM. What? Yeah. Yeah. 16 gigs of, I've memorized it so many times. LPDDR5, adding the word plus RAM. We're adding the word plus RAM. 10,000 megabytes per second. This is Ultra Plus. Yeah, Ultra Plus. Don't forget the plus. Very important on the 16 gig, right? But it's very fast. This phone is incredibly quick. And there's also two new dedicated chips in it that make it unusually quick. There's a 3,200 Hertz touch response enabled by a touch response chip. And there's a dedicated Wi-Fi chip called the G2 Wi-Fi chip. And this phone loads web pages ridiculously fast. It's very responsive to the touch. It's just a really quick solid responsive phone all the time, which is very encouraging. I was using Fischer's last night. And the first thing I noticed when I turned it on is the screen looked really freaking good. Screen is nice. It is a little brighter. It is a, I think it's a slightly lower resolution than a OnePlus 13. It's 1,272 pixels across instead of 1,140. Not to send this off the rails, but David, I'd like your thoughts on this. Because this, Mark hasn't like going over the specs and script for this had some confusion about the resolution being 1.5K. He wrote it in the script. He called it 1.2K. 1 plus refers to it as the world's first 165 Hertz 1.5K display. And they say it over and over and over again, 1.5K, 1.5K. So I keep checking. What's the max resolution? Yeah. Is like 2,700 by 12.72. So I'm like, why do you keep saying 1.5K? Because the last phone was 1440. That's closer to 1.5K, right? And then I googled what 1.5K means. And it doesn't mean 1,500 at anything. It just means somewhere between 1K and 2K. 1440 is 2K because it's referring to, anyway. That's really confusing. No. LG G3 had a 2K display. And that was a big deal. Because I was 1440. 1440 was the world's first 1440 smartphone. Now, why would you call that 2K if the resolution is 2560 by 1440? Thank you, Alex. Because the in between of 2560 and 1440, the average is around 2K. That would possibly be true. But I think what I realize is for higher resolutions, we refer to it by the horizontal resolution. And for lower resolutions, we refer to it by the vertical. So on YouTube when you see 240p, that's the vertical resolution. 480p is the vertical resolution. 720p is 1280 by 720, right? Yeah. Now when you refer to the big resolutions, 4K, that's roughly 4,000 across. 380 is the cross. Exactly. Or DCI, P3, which people always like to talk about DCI as well. Well, P3 is the color. Sorry. DCI is 4096. 4K, yeah. But 4K is roughly 4,000 across. Roughly. And 8K is roughly 8,000 across. Right. A lot of people are getting confused that 4K was 4x1080, which also happens to be true. But 8K is 16x1080. So it's not referring to how many times 1080. There's a 4x4K. It's 4x4K. Oh, but that's 8. But that's 8. That's actually. Yeah. So that's 8K. That's right, it's by 3. What? And someone driving is just going to turn off the side of the road right now to not listen to night-summer. So what we're going to do is we have the Ks, which are the horizontal resolution big numbers, and we have the Ps, which are the low resolution vertical numbers. And then for some reason, in between, we just abandon everything, and we have 2K, which is 2560 by 1440, and we just call that 2K, for I don't know what reason. And then we just adopt slightly less than 2K, which is 1272 across, is now 1.5K, just because it's less than 2K. How does that make any sense? I just want, there's a solid like 10 minutes of a KSNI with the scripts in front of us. And me being like, you say 1.2K, and you're holding up the phone and being like, it's 1.2K, and me being like, this is the guide, it says 1.5K, and him being like, but it's 1.2K, I'm not going to lie. And we just neither would budge until we both just hired to start googling everything. I'm trying to be clear about this. So like, the reason they say 1.5 is because the horizontal resolution of a vertical phone, so you're saying, so in vertical aspect ratio, I don't think we know the answer. The answer is because it's less than 2K, but higher than 1080. That's why it's 1.5K. But why would they, but it's less than 4144? Why would they talk about that as a benefit? Because it's 1.5K and 165 words at the same time, instead of having to pick high resolution, or higher reference. It's not the first 1.5K phone. That actually helped us move forward on this. There are other 1.5K phones. It's just, it's definitely just marketing. It's just the first 1.5K 165 words phone. Yep. Well, I'm the first person named David, who also is wearing a blue shirt, and is in Carnegie, Jersey right now. Yeah. So that's... I would bet that's not even true. It's true. Okay. Okay. But yeah, anyway, so they, one plus I'm sure in their presentation says 1.5K many times, there is no part of the screen that is 1,500 of anything. It is simply less than 2K, which is why they say 1.5K. I have a potential answer to your thing about horizontal versus vertical resolutions. Okay. Is it because we only used to have a horizontal video? And so when we look at something in a vertical format, we kind of just consider it horizontal video that's tilted 90 degrees. I think this is true before we got a bunch of vertical video. Like, like 10 years ago, we got the first 8K TVs and the 4K, everything was horizontal. Yeah. It was just like a nice marketing number. Ooh, 4K. Ooh, 8K. Yeah. But 1080 is 1920 by 1080. So I would say 2K, because that feels like 2000 across. But that's not 2K. It's 1080. Why didn't we call it 1920? Yeah. When we say 1080p. I would have been the guy that called that 2K back in the day. Yeah. I think we would have been wrong. Well, then there's the whole thing with HD. There's two definitions of HD. Yeah. Well, I know about the Hill HD thing, because I happen to use that word very often. All right. I think 1080 and above deserves to be called HD, but many circles say 720 is included in HD. 720 HD originally meant 720. Yes. I thought 1920 is called full HD. It did. So 720p was HD. Right. And then 1080p was FHD. Yeah. And then you had a 2K, which is 1440p, is QHD. QHD. QHD. Quad HD, because HD is 720. And it's Quad 720. And then 4K is still HD, which is ultra high definition. Ultra high definition. 30, 40, because it's 4 times 1080. And then 8K is the HD for definition. It's a lot. The goodie is high definition. All that to say, screen pretty nice. Yeah. I mean, hey, what about the rest of the phone? Battery. Battery. Sickest phone I've used ever for battery. 7,300 million hours. Silicon carbon. High silicon content of any Android we've seen. And also it lasts longer than the, I mean, I didn't get to main this, because my SIM card wasn't working. So I can't like fully like rest my laurels on this, but it was lasting longer than the 7,500 million power. Xiaomi 17 Pro Max. And this, because they kill background tests and like that's the whole thing. It doesn't have to. Bands. Is that what? It just wouldn't let me do my AT&T SIM transfer. So I got a T-Mobile SIM like super late. Either way, incredible battery life. And 100 watt charging outside of the US, 80 watt charging here, and 50 watt wireless charging, and bypass charging, and charge limiting if you want. Like it's an awesome batch. Isn't there a thing where it reversed wireless charges at 25 watts? You can do that too. I think it's a. That was the Xiaomi that did 22.5 watts or first. I don't know if this one does it too, but it does reverse if you want. Got it. So awesome, awesome battery experience. And then it has this like crazy ceramic finish. Or a nano arc something. I don't even know exactly what they're calling it. Like they did this crazy finish to the metal where it's basically ultra ultra hard and scratch resistant. So you can. It's pretty hard to me. You can you can you can drag a coin across the back of it. And it leaves a nasty looking scratch. And then you just wipe it off because you realize it's scratched the metal of coin off onto the back of the phone. It's super durable. So I did a whole short just showing that in action. Okay, two questions. Yeah, one does it have MagSafe, slash PixelSnap, Snash, T2. That is probably the biggest missing feature. They do have cases with magnets in them, but it is not built into the phone. So second question. Yeah. It's really scratch resistant, right? So does that mean that it's more likely to shatter if you drop it? I so yeah. In theory, yes, I just don't test that. So I don't know. I don't know. And I'm sure Zach's going to get his hands on this and do a scratch testing. But I was wondering if they had anything like into review guides or something like. Don't worry about that. It's fine. No, they didn't. I mean, they they did talk about the game about the finish and it feels great in the hand, which is like the most important thing. It's got this little micro-textor to it. I was using the matte black one, which actually feels even more different from that. But really, I love the finish on the back. It does feel very hard. Yeah. I don't really. I think it's fiberglass on the back and then the nano arc, whatever is on the rails. But it feels great. I love the nano arc, whatever. Yeah. So yeah, everything about this phone was great and then the cameras were a huge let down. That's nice. I could daily this phone, but I would just be super disappointed with it. If you had the Oppo X9 cameras, that would be nice. Funny you mentioned that because I was cross-shopping those two phones as you do when you have no intention of buying the phones. Sure you might. Am I the only one, right? Just watching videos constantly about them? Sure you have no intention of buying the phone. Not yet. Would you say that the OnePlus 15 is the 15 ring? OnePlus 15 is just the Oppo Find X9 Pro, but for the states, or are there dramatic differences or meaningful differences between the two? Besides the camera obviously. I mean aesthetically, yes. Software wise also, like Oxygen OS is closer and closer to ColorOS that it kind of feels like that's also. Remember they temporarily changed it to ColorOS than people got mad, even though it was the same software? Yeah, so they call it Oxygen OS, but they're the same. ColorOS is sick too though. ColorOS is good. You even remember it, let. It is good. That morning I was watching a video I'm never going to watch. ColorOS called the podcast. Yeah, it does have a bunch of things like, you know how subtle things? You notice when you open Google Maps, it's not 120 Hertz anymore, your phone? Or Waze? I almost, I don't know this. It's always in Android Auto, so I almost never. Did you notice that Android Auto is not 120 Hertz? I guess I never thought. I guess my eyes are usually on the record. So yeah, this is like picky, picky, picky little stuff, but like certain apps, Android defaults to not run at 120 Hertz to save battery. Like Maps, like you don't need 120 Hertz maps. You're just going to update your navigation. Well, okay, perfect, because in this phone, you can go through and choose your Mac's refresh rate on an app-by-app basis. And so you open it up and you see everything set to 120, and then you see Waze and Maps and Android Auto, or set to 90 by default. And you can just bump them up to 120, and suddenly you have the smoothest maps experience of any Android phone. That type of stuff, pretty fire. There's a lot of little settings you can mess with. There's also plenty of stuff you don't have to touch. Like I don't use their AI stuff. I don't use mind space, but it's there if you want to. Yeah, really, really good phone, really useful phone. But do they sell a pocket for it? There is no pocket for it. But I'm sure you could put it in the Apple Pocket. I don't know. You can just put it in a socket. Just blow it if you don't have a socket. You just buy a $200 socket. You can get amazing socks for $200. You get the Teenage Engineering socks. They're socks. How much do they sell? They sell $500. No, they're not that expensive. But you can only get them if you buy the whole... No, I think they could get them so really. Oh really? How much were they? They're $29. For $2.30 bucks. For $2.30. Well, we actually are not sure if it's $2.30. We're definitely sure it's $2.30. You get six pairs of those socks, okay? Anyway, yeah. I like the phone a lot. Watch the four of you. I really want to throw this against concrete and see what happens. I don't think that's how it works. Well, that's the whole thing, right? It's hard. Well, if you're gonna... You don't use a case on your phone. No. So the screen's going to shatter anyway. Maybe. So... I don't know. What if I threw it sideways, you know? I feel like he's imagining he throws it in the concrete just like splits underneath it. Like when a superhero wears. That's true. That'd be fair. I kind of feel like you should be able to do that. Well, speaking of surprising... Speaking of superheroes. We've got so far off script already, I don't know what... I'm trying to say a few words. I'm trying to segue too. I was gonna go for the iPhone Air next. I know, I was going for LeBron. Oh. Oh, I don't know. He's super heroes. I get it. Well, which one do you want to do that? Which one do you want to do? LeBron quick and then we'll jump to iPhone. Yeah, LeBron has this new show on his YouTube channel. It's called Uninterrupted and the show's called The Main Thing and he's got these interviews. He's interviewing six people a day. Wait, it's on his YouTube channel? It's, well, yeah, he runs the company. So it's kind of his YouTube channel. Oh, but it's not like at LeBron James. It's not at LeBron James, but it's Uninterrupted and it's the LeBron interview show called The Main Thing. And LeBron does edit all of it. Yeah, yeah. He's got this incredible eye for color correction. I don't know if you guys knew that. So you guys play basketball while you're doing the interview. No, he... I was one of the guests. It was a good time. We shot it like two months ago or something. I don't even remember when we shot this, but it was a good interview. Yeah, it was a good interview. And it's finally up now. So if you want to watch it, it's on YouTube. We're doing a guess what they actually play directly in the interview? Fortnite. How about... We play a video game. Did you actually play the video game? We played two video games. Okay. I saw them from 2004 and you saw it. I saw them give you a controller. Yeah. And I thought it was maybe one of those fake shoots where it's like, I'm gaming, but actually not. Well, so the TV was like on the other side of the room and we were playing like really far away. Okay, you played Madden. Oh, that's how I was going to guess. Oh, yeah, I didn't know. So yeah, you were right. You were totally going to get it. That's it. Madden 04 and Madden 26. So the one on the N64 was Madden 04. On the N64? I think it was an N64. I don't actually remember which console it was. What are the controllers? What are the controllers? Discratic controls. Discratic controls. I don't remember any of these in the video. I think you like a middle. I don't think it was that good. But it was 04. So whatever console you can get Madden 04 on back in the day. That's what we play. I actually, 04. 04. I got my Xbox in seventh grade, which is 2003. It looked a better. So probably what have been Xbox or PlayStation 2, right? Yeah. That feels right. Maybe PlayStation 2, yeah. I think it's past N64. Either way. Yeah. Yes, we did actually play the game. Games. Distracting. We review each other and play Madden. And also, if you're competitive, it's hard trying to beat each other in Madden. Wait, what football player did you pick? I don't remember. I think I picked the Jets. The Broncos. Why'd you do that? Because I don't play Madden. I don't really, I don't know who's good in 2004. Why am I even a football player? Wait, why are we just playing a football game? So Madden, the Broncos of Big Madden guy, he plays a lot of Madden. Why isn't he a football player? Well, he used to be a football player. Really? Yeah. And now he plays basketball. He's a bad rhythm about NBA 2K and his biggest gripe was that it's not realistic enough, which is, I mean, you're a basketball player. Obviously, you're not going to think it's perfect. But it was funny because I think that's what an NFL player would say about Madden. Yes. But what's the other game you guys played? That was it. So Madden, 04, and then we switched to Madden, 26. So we played the old Madden and then the newest Madden. So to compare them is a fun little, what were your thoughts on the differences? It feels like you're playing with Polygons in the first one, which is very old school. There's very few plays and the characters move like they don't move like they have joints. They move like they're kind of like on rails sort of. And you can move in vectors. They move like lightweight pulleys that control their arms and they're only 68 pounds. Like a new robot. Yeah. Thanks. I was reaching. It was fun to see it to contrast the difference between old hyperrealths of game and new hyperrealthist of game. And then think about the future of that should have been fun. So yeah, you can go watch that too. That's one of the interrupted YouTube channel. Okay. Well, speaking of something that's getting interrupted, what? Shipments of the iPhone Air. Wow. That was so good. A lot of people sent me this headline. Yeah. So I think that we need to make the distinction that this is all alleged. Yeah. A lot of the headlines were not saying alleged, but the original source was alleged. So it's alleged allegedly as with any leaks. So as we know, apparently the iPhone Air is not doing well, which I am still confused about because my anecdotal evidence in New York City in Greenpoint says to me very representative of America. This is selling very well. Yeah. Apparently iPhone Air is not selling well and selling so badly that they are going to not release the one that they were going to release next year, which to be fair, they're releasing the iPhone Fold next year. So they would have had just so many phones allegedly maybe. And instead, they're going to wait until 2027 spring at the earliest when they will add a second camera lens because apparently that has been one of the main gripes. So they're not completely getting rid of the iPhone Air idea like they did with the mini rest in peace. But they are, yeah, they're just going to modify it and add a second camera. I'm just going to say I'm not sure that the lack of a second camera was the reason people were not buying this phone. Yeah. Apple, but I don't know that to be true. That was a reason why a lot of people that I saw were not buying it was because they were scared of it not having a second lens. I think there are two main reasons not a second lens and a bigger battery. So if they just added a second lens and just made it a little thicker to get a little bit more battery and maybe even drop the price. I'm actually kind of wondering why this phone is not selling well because it costs $200 more than a better phone. But how much phones cost in the US doesn't seem to matter to people because everything is on payment. But this is worldwide. So it's like, okay, in the US, maybe more people will go with this phone and especially in certain places. But then like outside of that, like the enthusiasts are picking the best phone they can get. Yeah. And the normal people are picking the most accessible phone they can get. And what is the person that picks the more expensive but slightly less functional phone? The people who buy the stock. That is actually true. Yes, that is true. Yes, but it's also not that much more expensive. It's like it's still cheaper than the pro, right? So there's that. But if you're going to spend more money, what do you want out of that? It depends on who you are. Yeah, fair enough. I think for maybe most people, you're spending more hoping to get a phone that's better and last longer and it's like better battery, better cameras and stuff like that. And so you see that the pro is that and you go straight to the pro and you skip over the air, which is in the middle of them. If there are some people who obviously go in the store, pick it up, love it, hold it, amaze by it. They're going to buy that because they like it. But I just think that's less people than they expect. I will say as well to my anecdotal evidence, I see so many pros. I do see a lot of pros. It seems like everyone upgraded this year. Yeah. Wait, before we get off the pricing talk, do you want to know how much the iPhone air is monthly if you were to get it through Apple? $37.41. Okay. And the regular iPhone 17 is 33. Okay. I don't think most, I don't know. So even if you're doing a payment plan, it's like that's not even the cheapest one. Yes, not the cheapest. Yeah. Do you guys think for the average consumer who's not sick in the head like us, that the 16E actually makes the air a difficult value proposition, which, hear me out, right? Yes, it's going to come over the stable. But I think because I think a lot of people who are not in our world see, it's an iPhone with one camera. And then they do some research and the functional differences between them that other than processing power and RAM and stuff like that, which I would assume the kind of people who are choosing between like which iPhone to get and are not getting the pro or not really thinking about, you get high refresh screen, mag safe and thinness. Yeah. And other things they won't notice like pro chip. Exactly. And that is a pretty big price discrepancy between 16E and air. And I'm not saying anyone's going to choose the 16E over the air, but do you think it makes the value prop of the air a little bit more confusing? I think there's a, there's something to it. I just think the second it costs more than the base 17, it was confusing. I think when you have the base 17 sitting there, which is like the easy to understand newest iPhone, and then they also have a more expensive iPhone, which is very pretty, but is a worse, it's a single camera. It is less battery. It is all these downsides. Yeah. That is already. That's true. That's true. The only benefit is that it's thinner and more sort of like premium and pretty. Pretty. Yeah. But it's missing a camera has worse battery. One of my best friends, who's a 16E owner and like generally likes it, when she went to go buy it, she was really not sure about one camera. She's not techy at all. And she was like, how am I going to get by? Which is one camera. Oh. And the Apple store employee was like, no, no, we're doing this thing called Fusion Camera. Like, like, don't worry. Like, you're going to get a lot of good out of this. Like, this is the future. You have. This is the way. Three camera lenses in one. Yeah, exactly. The whole field. And then when the 17 regular came out and it still had two cameras, even though Apple never said they were going to do it, she was like, wait a second. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're just me. They do. So I mean, you can't, you can't fake an ultra wide. You can kind of fake some some amount of zoom. But if you have a really good telephoto, that's always going to be better. Yeah. I saw a take on Twitter recently. Maybe I'll find it again. That was kind of like someone saying, I take better pictures now that I only have one camera because I am more intentional. And the random shots that I was going to take with the zoom were always worse because they would just be like, lazily zooming in with the software instead of intentionally framing it up with the single primary camera with a zoom. And that's exactly, yeah, that's a real cope. But it is. Yeah. I mean, it's the same excuse that a lot of film photographers use. Yeah. I'm more intentional because it's harder. That was one of my old, old hot takes is primes are stupid. What? Primes are stupid. We had to cut this before this is a three hour episode. Primes are just not next quote is up. It's a thing and I have an office. Prove me wrong. Primes are just so bad. If you guys see the toys, zoom with your feet. Zoom with your feet, man. Toys are five trailer? No. Is it with your feet? Zoom like this. No, I think you can see the toys there five trailer. I'm so imagining Marquez with his feet up on his zoom lens. Zoom with your feet, your SpongeBob toes. This is very fast. But none of you guys saw the Toy Story five trailer. It is all it is. Oh, I didn't see a frame from I am. Is a box in like Andy's room or I don't even know if it's Andy anymore. All of the toys like quivering and freaking out and then at the end they pull out a tablet. It's basically just I guess the new movie is about all the toys being really scared of the tablet taking away. Honestly, fire concepts. That's a good that seems like a good like AI trailer someone to make on Twitter and you're like, how a good idea but they're actually going to make this a movie. This is from Pixar. I want to ask your opinion on this Andrew as the only parent in the room because I have a friend who now has two children and he is struggling making sure that they don't have not you. Making sure that they don't have a tablet. Yeah, kids. Like, how is that working out for you? The only time she looks at a tablet is because we have one for FaceTime with some family. She watches TV sometimes and then like if we're on a really long car ride and like pushing bedtime or like something where we're getting real cranky, then I can throw on her favorite show. But then she have like a bunch of toys like and that's what you. She has toys. She loves to play. Yeah, I play with toys. All the questions. Is she up or down over time on her polymarket account? She's terrible at polyming. Always making all these bits. No, I, I, I'm an iPad kid, I think. I didn't have the I thought when you were a kid. No, I'm, I'm an iPad kid now. Currently I am. No, I am some kid. I like make food sit down at the like in the living room and then I'm just like scrolling through like where will be done eating dinner? I'm like, we haven't even picked up the watch yet. I need Claire. Help me. Stop eating. Yeah. Oh my god. I think I eat more of my meals with a screen in front of me than not. Oh my god. Lately, I'm not doing that because now I eat dinner with lean and Claire and we don't do it in front of the TV. But yeah, before it happened, I would like actually get mad and Claire sometimes. We used to be a country. We used to be. You try it. Meal time. Check out the meal time videos. Subreddit telling that's not just bangers. I do know about that. Meal time videos, 20, 20, 30 minute videos that you just sit it down and eat your end. It's great. That seems like a great subreddit to spam your YouTube channel on to get some more followers. But it's got to be like the, yeah, that perfect length of video. I hope that Toy Story 5, I hope that the big ethical question that they explore is what's happening to our children with the iPad. I feel like it's got to be. I really hope so. It's on the trailer. It's a big thing. It's a big, ethical question. It's a lot of iPad kids. The funny thing about it is the amount of kids that will probably watch Toy Story 5 on an iPad is a large percentage after a few minutes. And they will understand what they're watching. They won't be like, is this bad for my brain development? No, they're going to have it split screen with Google Docs. And probably more. Picture and pictures. Tricks. Tricks. So watching Toy Story 5 in their diaper. All right. Well, let's take a quick break and do some trivia. And we got a little more talk about after. But let's hit it. Scooby-dooby-do. Guys, I have two potential questions for today. I figured I'd ask. Would you rather answer a question about battery sizes or socks? Socks. Socks. Socks. Socks. Guys, that iPhone sock is really expensive. But what is more expensive? A, the most recent brand new in package, excuse me, brand new inbox listing sold on eBay, like the view old sold products, of a five pack of the original 2004 iPod socks. Really long wait. Unopened. Unopened five pack in the packaging. B, the short strap iPhone pocket. Not the long strap. 150. Or C, a pair of plain white men's socks from the fashion brand, Balenciaga. Oh, that's two socks. God. plain white men. You know how a plain white t-shirt would be 200. I also realize it's a little confusing because like, you know, the first item is five socks. The second item is one sock. Yeah. And the third item is two socks. So we're going by skews here. Just make it clear. plain white, like there's not even a Balenciaga logo on it. It says the word Balenciaga in black text. I know what the answer is. Yeah. All right. Well, we'll think about that. 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Okay, so credit that thought has been delayed till November 19th, 2026. Let's go, baby. That is one year from now. It had already been delayed to May 2026. But now I guess months before that even happening, they decided we can't even hit that one. We're delaying another year. Let's go. That's that's a long, long time. It's already the meme of like we already got blank and blank before GTA 6, like everywhere. So iPhone sock before GTA. We got that. I wasn't that the one that had the trailer come out. That was super, super viral. Yeah. That was GTA 6. Oh, yeah, it's like one of the highest viewed YouTube videos of all time. So what do you think is delaying it? Oh, so their official quote was we are starting for adding additional time to what we realized has been a long wait, but these extra months will allow us to finish the game with level of polish that you have come to expect and deserve. Well, one of the biggest polymarket bets is whether or not GTA 6 will be over $100. And there's people have put so much money into this bed. It's got to be over, right? The bundled me would be just the game. I think just the base game. Like just $100. Really? It's really games are like 67. Yeah, honey, wait a minute. Is that a? Like, 2K. You can spend over $100 on a new copy of 2K. Oh, but the base copy is like 80 or 90. I think you still. And that's one of the more expensive. Well, yeah, but they were going to GTA 6 for like, it's like the biggest game ever. It's true. It has the most hype. It has the most like people waiting for it and delays. I mean, it's essentially infinite demand and they can make infinite supply. I think if they made it 110 bucks, people would buy it. Yes, they would. Don't say that. I'm just, it's true. I hate saying it because I don't want it to be true. But it's like one of those things where it's like, we want it to be 40 bucks. Remember how mad people were? I mean, this is exactly what happened when Mario Kart World. People were so mad that it was $80. But it's the exactly what you're saying. People will still buy it. Yeah, they'll grumble all the way to the cash register. Yeah. There was something saying stat that was like 95% of people who own a Switch 2 also own Mario Kart World. Well, that's because there's no other games out there. So for just don't come on. It's the best game for it. But yeah, that's fair. You know what really pisses me off about this delay? That I've been doing a good job of putting it out of my head that all GTA 6 is delayed. Like okay, whatever, no big deal. I like forget about it. I go about my life, live happily ever after. And then they announce that they're delaying it again and remind me that it's delayed. I was like, I was fine. So you're looking forward to it. Oh, I'm buying this game. Oh really? Yeah, I hope it's not over $100 more because don't put that into your mouth. Has been how long has it been since the last one? I'm 15 years or something. I have to guess because my sister's husband when he was in college apparently skipped a bunch of classes when he bought when the last one came out to play it and in the process of playing it got his car still. I'm in the same car. That's amazing. But yeah, so I think it'll be, you know, something similar happened with Cyberpunk where they delayed, delayed, delayed and then it came out and it was, it had some issues. And it got scrutinized to all hell because partially because of how much it got delayed. So this thing better be polished. I am interested. We just saw Silksong come out and make a bunch of games push outside. This feels like this is going to be like that whatever top tier gaming version of that like a big, big company doing it where I would not doubt if some companies plan to come out next fall and are like, just kidding. I think there was a bunch of people that changed their release dates like a bunch of companies. For Silksong or? No, for all ready for this. No, and they changed it because they thought it was coming out of a certain time. And now this is happening. They're like scrambling like, oh my god, we got to change it. I saw a tweet that said like when you got your wife pregnant to time it perfectly with the GTA. And then they delayed it. Turn it into that's brutal. Oops. Yeah. You know, it's funny. The last GTA came out in 2013 and it's been delayed twice. The last street light manifesto album came out in 2013 and it's been delayed twice. Which one's going to come out first, baby? We'll find out. That's a new polymarket. Yeah, I was going to say polymarket. Yeah, it's going to be GTA or street light manifesto. We'll see. Is it not financial? No. And we do not endorse polymarket or street light manifesto. Speaking of street light manifesto because it's music Spotify as we know every year does the big wrapped thing. Spotify creating their wrapped thing has really made every other company in the world decide to look at all your data. Except YouTube. Well, well, yeah. Well, YouTube Google does everything too early and too cringe and because of that they just they can never come back. You know, it's like social media too early. It's a little too cringe. And glasses. Glasses too early, too cringe. So Spotify now is thinking of doing a new. Oh, that's out. Oh, it's out. Yeah, they thought about it and then they did it. A weekly wrapped where they release your listening stats. So now you can just click on an icon and it is right there in the drop down menu. It shows you your top five artists and top five songs of the week. And then each of those lists has some more like your top song suggestions under that. So it's kind of like your release radar in a way. It's sort of just like, I don't know, it's telling you what you were listening to and then giving you suggestions. Because I think the number one complaint about Spotify and probably most music streaming services at this point is that you just get trapped in this little circular algorithm of artists that are kind of like each other and that just suggest them constantly in a circle forever until the end of time. It depends on what type of artists they are. Sometimes if you're in like a more niche artist and then they're only connected to a few other niche ones, then you get in a circle. But if you're in like, you have to like find the biggest spoke that has the most outside connection and then like slingshot out via that artist. Like a music. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, yeah, go on. Yeah, that's pretty much it. I think that's what it is. That's what it is, but everyone have any interesting. Andro wanted us to share our top five. I think we should all share our top five songs. You should also go back to last week because it continues. It sets it up into week. So right now the current week is only one day old. This is like a useless to me because I'm one of those cycles that listen to the same thing constantly for like a week. Same. Oh, yeah. Well, do you, so are you, I have a feeling we're the same type of Spotify listener. You like have two or three songs that you just found that you, you repeat through them over and over and over again until you're sick of them and then you find three new ones. And then that's the rotation. Yeah, yeah. And then we go back and find the last three. It reminds you of the time. Oh, what, what a time that. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I'm the same way. I've been, I have a song that I've been listening to by Feed Me so much in the past month. I am very confident it's going to be one of the top songs of the year. Yeah. Like very confident. What is it called? The song is called Stop Motion by Feed Me by Feed Me. Feed Me. This is every time we do this, I realize I probably have the worst days of music. I've ever heard. So yeah, Feed Me with my number one artist. There's nothing wrong with Bruce Springfield. There's nothing wrong with this thing. Yeah. Mine's surprised to me. The mountain goats and then Atta Boy, which nobody knows. And then parcels, but it's down because there's five weeks in my top five because they had a new album that came out that was fire. Five weeks in your top five. Yeah. Wow. Oh, yeah. I tend to, if there's a new, if there's a new artist that I find, I listen to their discography nonstop for three months until I hate them. And you just pick your name. You see? Okay. So one week of someone else and then you probably dive back. Yes. That's exactly what it does. We have similar listening patterns. Yeah. And then two artists that I don't listen to, but I think keep getting suggested an auto playing after the mountain goats play this. Yes. Okay. They didn't know album come out this week too. That was fire. So what you got, Ellis. I know you got something fun. I'm confused, man. I guess mine don't go to the current week just because like it's only been one day. I listen to music in like a ton of different ways. Like I have Spotify. I have a CD player and a tape player at home. I've been listening a lot of music on YouTube. That was a tape player. Oh, that's that thing with it. You take it out and you flip it. Oh, I know what that is. Do you have that tape? No, you're right. I know what that is. Yeah. You're right, Ellis. We're so old, Ellis. I can't. Leave it, Ellis. Okay. What's an artist you listen to? Well, here's all of the ways I listen. See, I can do that on the Street Tiktok and then give me an apartment tour on the Street Tiktok at the same time. Yeah. It's just efficient. No, so I'm really confused because half of these songs I don't even know, which means I think it was like they algorithmically played once and because I use it all the time. That's what happened to me. So I have my top artist is John Coltrane, which I don't remember listening to John Coltrane that week. My top song is Lean For Real by Playboy Cardi. Another song I don't know. And then the rest is Just Shade, which checks out. Number one, New Jobs. I don't know how to pronounce it. Is this artist? New Jobs. New Jobs. New Jobs is Sea of Cloud. Number two, Lupe Fiasco, The Cool, Force of Nature, Death Wish, Number three, Golden. Yeah. Yeah. Already know. He has fun. And Danny Lutton. What's Golden? Jurassic fun. No, it's Golden. That was on K-15 and Hounders. Oh, yeah. It's like high replay values. The main song. I'm telling you. It's spin in my top five for multiple weeks apparently. Sorry, what was the fifth one? Jack's lament nightmare before Christmas. It's a song. Because it was Halloween. Sounds like you're going up up to the top. Adam. Nice. Gotta be good. Mine's all over the place. I have Rosalita by Bruce Springsteen. Great song. No broke boys by disco lines into not days. Because Lane and I dance to that song all the time. Don't blame your daughter. It's so good. Have you heard that song? It's really just definitely on the way home. It's like, no broke boys. No broke. No, it's not a kid. It is not a kid song. OK. Good. I want to get better by bleachers. All falls down by Owen Walker and drama free by deadmouse. Where's their tea store? Drama free by, oh, is that new? It's new word. You don't just listen to it. It's a two years old though. I don't know if I've heard of that song. You have. It sounds like we all listen to completely different music. Sometimes our studio blend is just insane. It's not on that role. Yeah, we haven't been on it for a while. I haven't looked at it. David, did you listen to my cool music playlist, I say, or the YouTube link? Not yet. Cool. Cool. Well, you said it to me and then I didn't work at my apartment for a while. So got it. All right. You know, he only has internet in his apartment. Let's do two. Do you want to do the ear frame? OK. So check it out. Last two, three, actually before I just want to say it's actually pronounced ank. So Iank. Iank. Iank. Iank. All right. So a few weeks ago, we, Andrew and I got very giddy about this new Iank aura frame. And because Iank is a very cool technology, we're super excited about it. They actually sense us over a couple of them, which is very cool. So they sense us like their normal frames, which are screens of data technology. Let's bring it back. But now we have actual ink. So we'll eat. Yeah. It's still electronic. Electronic. So this, I'm going to try to show this with that too much clear. From far away, it probably looks pretty good. And up close, it kind of looks like a half-tone kind of look. Yeah. I'm like four feet away or something. And it looks like a photo and a photo. Yeah. It kind of looks like a photo. But I want to show you what happens when you change out the picture. It's for audio listeners. It's really convincing from a few feet away. It's one of those things where you unbox it and you put your first picture and you're sitting right next to your like, oh, man, this looks pretty bad. Are you ready? And then it's about to get easy. When you change the picture, which this is only supposed to do at night, it just for like 20 seconds flashes, like crazy. It hasn't started. Oh, wait. No, it's gone. OK. It just flashes. Because I think it's changing all the, yeah, it's moving it all around and changing all the different areas. So you'll see like part of the picture will stop flashing and then other parts will keep going. If you just a Kindle before you've seen this effect in some version, which is like you turn the page and it flashes and it brings the new text into effect, this is just doing it with color and with way more detail. Yeah. So I've tried a lot of different photos with this. I really like it. It kind of looks like pixel art. Where if you're far enough away, it looks like regular art. When you get up close to it, it's kind of like this half-tone pixelating. I will say it's not very good with black and white photos. I will show a black and white photo on it. Because it kind of like adds the sepia look to it because it's like not good at doing true blacks. It's not perfectly black. That's right. So it has a sort of like yellow cast. I think that it mixes in some of the yellow beads with the black beads. This is just one of those pieces of technologies that I cannot get behind for this specific use case. I'm happy. It feels like I accidentally did it. If you just spin it, it should. Oh, does it automatically? But then it has to. There's no order. It does have to be different. Well, it does have auto rotate, but it just like it's a real flash again. I should have done it. It's cool. One thing we forgot to mention the first time around is this is $500. Yeah. This is like a new thing. They're doing. It is very expensive. It's rotating. Oh, is it rotating? I've been enjoying it so far. I think the ultimate test will be, now that the holidays are coming up, I have it hung up. I'm interested to see how many family members walk by and if they like notice that there's something off about it. Or if they just think it's another picture frame. So it's like pretty, no, it's doing it. I don't think anyone's gonna notice. Oh, no. I think it's fine. The issue that I have with something like this is part of the, to me, part of the point of taking pictures and printing them out is to like hand them out or in 100 years find it in my attic. Or you know, like those moments are kind of what makes it. Yeah, but you can find this in your attic. It's eating. Yeah, and then it looks like I just have to eat this for a day with no picture or memory on it. It would have a picture on it. In 100 years. Yeah. I don't think the battery would explode. It doesn't matter. I don't think you need to eat it. It's like an edge of sketch. It's getting set. It is like an edge of sketch. It won't erase it. Yeah, but when that thing's a big spicy pillow. I don't know how much of that is. I think you don't have to pick one or the other though. Like I still plan on $500. $500? I'm not gonna, not all my, I don't have one photo in my house though. Like I'm not gonna pay $500 for every photo to be an ink one. I'm gonna have photos and art set up. But like it's nice to have one that's a rotating one. Yeah. You can't put every picture you ever take up on the wall. It also has like, the app has like positioning and you can zoom in and you can make it. Cause right now has a little bit of a black border. But you can see it, it's not good at true black and white. Like it adds like a sepia look. And when I, like this is a 35 millimeter shot and when I bring it into the dark room and do actual dark room printing, those blacks are inky as heck and more inky than this. But you know, I think for the colors, it's quite nice. And I'm very excited to put it up and just have it cycle through some pictures. Cause I think that's gonna be super cool. 500 is a lot. But it is one of the first things that does this. Obviously, this has been like my dream forever. So the technology will get cheaper eventually, you know, photo frames in general are really cheap now. I mean, the oralons are not, but that's because they're like ultra high resolution. You can share. They have all these features, whatever. But if you want just like a cheap photo frame, you can get one of those for insanely cheap. So I'm hoping that this technology catches on and it becomes, you know, better. They get more ink blotches and you can do more true blacks. I think that would be nice. Yeah. I guess the advantage of it is like, cause you can get a digital picture frame that rotates through and it's not ink and it looks fine. Yeah. This one can kind of look more like a print. Well, and this one also has a battery that can last three months. So you can hang it on the wall without hiding a wire and then just charge it like your Nestor bell where you just take it off, charge it for a couple hours every three months. And all the battery really does is allow it to change photos and then have the little light in it that kind of illuminates it because it needs a little bit of light. Well, it's a front light. Yeah. Not behind it. Yeah. Yeah, it helps you see it. But like if it dies, it'll just stay static on whatever the last image is. So that's also fine. You know, cool. Yeah. So I don't know. I think it's cool. I like it. I think it's cool. I want to hang it up and see what it does. I'm being a grumpy old. I do not. I'm very overwhelmed. I hope you feel good about being wrong. Cool. Well, all right. Well, I took this morning since it was there's no segue here. I'm just jumping right into the next one. Okay. Very wafer. Well, it's funny because I had this this segue written for this. Okay. And then I messed up the order of everything. It was because I was speaking of wrapped. Smartphone seasons wrapped. Anyway, so we're talking about like that. So worse segue when you have to go back and talk about wrap or something. I just decided that now that tech, temper and tech, tober have ended. We're kind of in our slower season. I wanted to pull some numbers from the main channel because we just wrapped up smartphone season. So I took August 1st to October 31st that really feels like when all the big phones come out. And these numbers are pretty awesome. These are all just from main channel. So we had one million or 115 million 800,000 long form views, 11 million 100,000 long form watch hours. 85 million short form views, 783,000 watch hours short form. Despite four of our top five videos being shorts, the number one video was actually a long form. So our most viewed video in this wasn't a short, it was a long form with 13 million views. It was the iPhone 17 pro and air impressions. That one looks really good. That one's really good. I think we put the frame down. It looks so cool. Look at how cool it looks. Our top five long form videos, iPhone 17 pro and air impressions, iPhone 17 pro air unboxing, Meta Rayman display glasses, AirPods 3 pro review, Xiaomi 17 pro max, some other notable things. Unboxing the $40,000 sealed OG iPhone got 750,000 views in the last 90 days. That's crazy. That video's two years old. Yeah. Also the reviewing every Samsung Galaxy video had 700,000 views in the last three months. That's from March 2024. And then only two videos the whole month didn't hit 3 million, or the whole time span. So last three months didn't hit 3 million views, which is top five sports tech and investigating tests of RoboTaxi, 1.4 million and 2.9 million views. The average view between those 16 videos in last three months was 5.7 million. She's that we cooks the last smartphone seasons was crazy and busy. And I feel weird now that it's slowing down. But my favorite stat usually is just taking the number of watch hours and converting that into years of human life that have been wiped from this planet. So just for context, where there is a Toy Story 5 is big. So you can either read it as in total everyone watching the videos in short form, just a short form videos. Oh, that's only short form. Wait, for which ones? 783,000 watch hours was just only short form videos. Oh my God. OK, wait, that's even better. So 783,000 watch hours total spread amongst all the people who have been watching all the shorts that we uploaded that were viewed during the month. Three months. During the three months. You can think of it as that, or you can think of it as one person watching all of our shorts for 89 years. People are kids now. What that's like watching that is so much kid anymore. That is so much watching how many years of long form. It's been yeah, even OK, so it's up by how long is that for long form? It would be 1,272 years. That's just not even possible for a human. That's perfect to differ. The flunger than the Earth, the nine jobs. 1,000 years of watch time is crazy for three months. Yeah. But isn't that crazy? You could just watch shorts for the 89 years straight. We still wouldn't have equal the amount. Mark has by display logic. It's 1.5K years. I think that even more. That's right. Yeah, yeah, anyway. So that is, hey, that's thanks to you guys. So shout out to you guys for watching the videos. And you know, you say it's slow and down, Andrew, but it's still going. We just talked about a sock as the top. That's fair. That's totally fair. I know that's what I'm saying. We're slowing down. There are 1 plus 15 trifles, random other stuff is happening still. We're almost eating cramers. And then the smartphone awards are coming up and we're kind of still on the thick of it. But hey, all right. We have one more segment that we want to do, which is overhyped or underhyped. Should we do that after the ad break? Yes. Yeah. Then let's do trivia. Trivia, dude, it's trivia, dude, we're trivia, dude. Trivia. So earlier in the episode, we were talking about tech brands that have done hype beast collabs with fashion brands. So I have a question for you. Bathing ape and stash. Bathing ape. Bathing ape. Bathing ape. Is it an F1 driver? No. That's what bait is. Bathing ape. Could I look it up? No. They make it all dirty. They make it all dirty. They make it all dirty. With which famous camera brand to launch a custom camera? Bathing ape and stash. A T company? Stash? American visual artist stash, aka Josh Franklin. OK. More confused. He's an artist. OK. And they made a camera. They collab to make a camera with which company? OK. It's called the stash ape camera, which reminds me of a... Bapet. If you're a hype brand, you don't need to name things. What's it's also? That's the craziest. What stony should be a hype company and stop naming things? On time when I was like a teenager, I woke up in the morning and I met my dad in the kitchen. He was like drinking coffee and I saw him like pick up a newspaper and it was the LA Times and there was a feature story about the rapper Earl Swechert and my dad picked it up and I just see he was like still waking up, no coffee. He says out loud. Odd futures, Earl Swechert. And he just puts the paper down and looks at me and goes, what the f*** is that mean? What's just exactly how stash ape camera is? That's what it's all about. Alright. Yeah, alright. Well, we're definitely going to learn something this episode. We'll be right back. The world moves fast. You work day, even faster, pitching products, drafting reports, analyzing data. 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My cut said he was going to use this perfect thing is, okay, the thing is when something is that hyped, it's basically impossible to low up to the hype. So I think we would be safely, probably, correct if we said over hyped. I would agree with that. One has a game ever been this hyped and lived up to it. Breath of the Wild. Was that not nearly as... This is one of the most... The trailer for it was one of the most viewed YouTube videos of the year of all time. That's crazy. There's just... There's no way we could have the hype. I mean, between those three options, I'd probably say over hyped. I'd say over hyped. I was going to be meaner about it. Same game, new city. Wow. My mind. I don't even know if that's true. You don't know if it's the same game, but it's basically... Where is it? Is it set in Miami? It's in Florida, not Miami. It's supposedly a different city. It's just Florida. I wish it was just a city. Is it Florida? It's in Orlando. It's in Disneyland. It's in Disneyland. It's Disneyland. Never mind under hyped. I wish it was a soundtrack by Florida, Georgia line. What's that place where they have all the boats where below deck is based? What is Blanks There's across the room. Wait, guys, there's two trailers. There's a trailer from a year ago with 268 million views, and then they did another trailer six months later, which got another 139 million views. There's no way it lives up to this hype. There's no shot. I don't know, man. It's impossible. What if it does? GTA 5 is like one of the most sold games of all time. If it does so up to the hype, we'll come back to this episode and give it an under hyped or perfectly hyped. But as of right now, there's just... Mark out. Mark out. Mark out. Mark out. It's over. Yeah. It's definitely over hyped. It's over for GTA 6. All right. The next one is... Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob. Teenage engineering. Hmm. Hmm. So I've only ever used one teenage engineering product in my life. And that is the recorder. The microphone. The recorder. What about the actual recorder? Yeah. You go like Browdoth. Oh, I don't know. Because that's different from the microphone. I use them. I have the microphone at home. The microphone is good though, right? So the microphone is not very hyped, but it is $1,200. Yeah. So if you're talking overpriced or underpriced, it is overpriced. For sure. Microphones are expensive. Microphones get really expensive. Microphones that sound as good as that microphone get way more expensive than that microphone. And I really appreciate that. Because that tend to be more expensive and higher quality than the teenage engineering mic tend to be a little bit harder to use. I'm not saying it's not expensive, but I'm saying every time you take that mic home and record a video on it, I go, hot digitty. What was that recorded on? Interesting. And you go to the teenage engineering mic and I go, pretzels. You know? Okay. I mean, it's good. It's the only teenage engineering product I use. Have you used products designed by Teenage Engineering before? Oh, in collaboration. Oh, in collaboration. The R1, the Numbers. Yeah, that's fair. What about this $250 toy car? Apparently it's awesome. I want to use my perfectly hyped on this because I feel like every time you get in a Teenage Engineering product, it's just so freaking awesome. Like they're so freaking cool. And they like did create an aesthetic that everyone has been trying to copy forever. Like nothing is basically just trying so much more than I thought they did. They make a lot of stuff. However, I do think people buy their products, like Adam did a whole video on this about how, you know, they intentionally limit the capabilities of their products so they feel more like toys so that you experiment with them more, but you're not actually using them for real production, even if they could allow you to use it for real production. Today would be incredible, but they don't on purpose because they want you to be more experimental, which makes me want to say it's over hyped only because people think that you can use them like a real sampler, like a real midi keyboard, that kind of stuff. But that's my only reason. Otherwise, I think it's perfectly hyped. Also, quick clarification, that video never got made. Oh. Adam almost made a whole video about... Yeah. That was right before we changed the whole strategy for Studio. Really? You should be a cut of that. Yeah. Wow. Just put on your YouTube channel. You've used more Teenage Name products than I think anyone else I know. Oh, don't try to spin this around on me. So I'm just wondering what your reference for us if you have an opinion on it. I have a hard time saying if it's over hyped or under hyped, because I think they are the hype. They like, people are excited for their things and they know what they're getting. They're not like scamming anyone. That's what I'm saying. I think they're perfectly hyped. That might be. I think this might be our perfectly hyped. I think they are a singular entity. Nobody has, people have tried to copy them and nobody's done it correct. And they're not going around like trying to build their own hype, right? They're just like, we make our stuff. Yeah, they just go like, they're weird stuff too. It's like always out of left field. I think that specifically makes it appropriately hyped. If it's all organic hype and it's for people who know what it is and what they're getting, then I say we spend our perfectly hyped on the wooden box orchestra people. I $250 each. But it'll be the best wooden box orchestra person you've ever held. The benefit of this is that nobody hyped this product, but they made it anyway, which I think makes it appropriately hyped. Fair enough. Perfect. I'm so happy because the next thing on this list is having a dedicated camera. Yeah. Overhyped. Underhyped. You think it's underhyped. I feel like we all now have like a dedicated little side camera. Yeah. Even the kids. Yeah. They all have the Digi-Cams now. I have both of mine here today. Nice. You see it in the room with us right now. I can go get them, but I don't think anyone cares. Is it? We have a whole underhyped camera. It's odd to carry it. You're like carrying a separate camera. Yeah, like having a separate camera. Our car has now has this house a lot too. Everyone has a separate camera as well as their iPhone slash. I think because of our name of this game, it's not over underrated, it's over underhyped. I feel like this has not that much hype. Yeah. Agreed. So it's definitely not. There's only two channels that make a living off of this. Yeah, but they make pop in. I think carrying a dedicated camera is way underhyped. Really? That's way... Dude, I'm not seeing that. I'm not seeing that. They're entire product categories in the dedicated camera space that are just like... This camera is cheap enough. You don't have to think about it. Yeah, but those are for other photographers. You know? Every time I have a camera out, someone goes, are you a photographer? It's like, well, every one's a photographer if they just have a camera with them. Well, bars. I feel like the talk of the town for the past year has been like, you gotta get a Digi-Cams. You gotta get the new Fuji film. You gotta have the dedicated camera. But also, when you actually go out into the world, how many people actually have a dedicated camera? Not that many. I've heard of that. People talk about this a lot, but people don't actually do it that. But then everyone's Instagram post is a Polaroid dump. You ever notice that? Everyone's Instagram post is 15 Polaroids for some reason. Are they real? I've done a lot of folly family activities, and I have seen very few cameras underhyped if that's anecdotal. And that's anecdotal, but like, if you could think of a position to where someone would bring a dedicated camera to because I'm the turd there with it. I do live in, as we would say, iPhone, Airt territory. So maybe my perception is a little skewed. iPhone, Airtory. Yeah. You know, David, what? When Kendall Jenner posted her picture with the context, how difficult did it become to find the context? Impossible. That's what I'm saying. The context T2. Well, I think since then, films cameras in general have blown up. Yeah, but then they all know they alone, they imploded again, though, the market did shrink. It took a little bit. The context is still too expensive, but it is freaking amazing. It's a great camera. You're saying underhyped? We're saying underhyped because we haven't seen this hype. So there's just don't think this is, because it's not like everyone does. It's hype enough for us to debate if it's underhyped or overhyped, but I think it's still in the underhyped category. Yeah. I think it's underhyped. All right. So camera underhyped. That's right. We're all still cool, I promise. Number four. Live translation. Overhyped. Overhyped. Next. Live. Overhyped. Here's Dell's advocate. The concept of live translation is we are imagining perfect live translation. The products themselves are short of perfect, so they are approaching this idea and then falling short. But the concept of perfect live translation and anyone on earth being able to talk to anyone else on earth fluently and perfectly without having to think about it is pretty underhyped. The concept of flapping my arms is flying. I'm pretty awesome too. I think the fact that we're working on it and falling short of it makes it very clear that the products aren't all that they're cracked up to be. But the idea of what they're working towards is amazing. The phrase live translation is a misnomer too because it would only be live if you literally had a babblefish in your ear and you could directly understand what people were saying. There was no delay. I mean, you were working on that. Yeah. But the idea though is that you can get pretty close to that. Obviously the text is not there yet, but someone starts talking and it's in language you don't know. And then within a half a second you start hearing the correct language. Yeah. I mean that. Okay, but we're talking about hype levels though, right? And I feel like these companies, the companies are hyping, have been hyping this idea for so long. But they're hyping the product which falls short of the idea. Correct. Which is why it's overhyped. But the idea itself is like a humanoid environment. It's not hyped as much as the product. But I would say right now the fact that like seven different companies this year announced it in an announcement with a product that barely even does it. Yeah. Is like that peak overhyped tech stuff. And they literally, they literally started talking about this during like the Pixel One with the original Pixel Buds. Yeah. And they've said it every year and I feel like if you hype something and it doesn't live up to how you're hyping it, then it's overhyped. Yeah. Right? If they hyped it and it was like better than they said, then it would be underhyped. Well, I mean, no product is ever, no tech product especially is ever like better than they say it's going to be I think in my opinion only GTA 6 very rarely. But yeah, I agree. I mean, my devil's advocate is like none of the products are good enough to consider them done yet. So we're still working towards this idea. And when we get there is going to be amazing. But what I can buy right now, but what you can buy right now is overhyped. I mean, it's, but is that what you're saying? You can say that about AI too. Are we talking about the concept or the products that exist? Because you said live translate. That's fair. So when I heard you talk about concepts, no, let's just said live translate concept. Next year, I dealed peace. Overhyped. Pretty hype. Pretty hype. So anyway, that's the angle I was coming up with. Hearing cancer. The idea. But if we're saying the products that exist now, I agree they're overhyped. Yeah. Overhyped. Overhyped? Yeah. Okay. Next on this list, the orange iPhone overhyped. Overhyped. Okay. As someone who loved it at first, it's overhyped. It's not as good as I thought it was going to be. I'm glad they good. I agree. I'm glad they did it. I'm glad they did it. You're glad they tried, but yeah, as Mark has holds on his orange iPhone. I've liked it more over time to be honest. I have two, but I'm not sure if that's just me falling for the marketing because I do think that initially I was super hyped on the orange phone, then it came out and I didn't like it. And now as I see it more, I'm liking it again. Mark has this orange iPhone owner. Have you liked it more or less? Less than I thought it would. Since it came out, yeah. Okay. I thought I would like it. It's not as orange as I was hoping and the orange bleeding right on the sides. You really have to commit to the orange. For sure. And I want to put a case on a skin on it so bad. Wait, why'd you take off the half-procated? Because it was too thick and the buttons was annoying with the buttons. I'll probably do this again. I'll probably put a half a skin on my phone again because I think that was kind of fire. It's like a banana. I don't know. Yeah. Anyway, I wish they made a black one. Symbiot. So, overhyped. Okay. Overhyped. I have to say it. Overhyped or underhyped? Color OS. Underhyped. Underhyped. Well, depending on who's doing the hyping. The company is hyping the hell out of it. But sort of. The response from people is not as good. People are having an instinctual reaction because they think because they remember a world where oxygen OS was the best Android OS and they're just mad about it going away in name. But color OS and oxygen are like the same OS now. Yeah. But they're further from the original oxygen OS we all love. By far, yeah. It's straight and now it's all color OS basically. For sure. But it's still good. It's good. I think it's one of the best Chinese. I think it's one of the best Chinese OS's. I watched so many videos on this and I am very intrigued to try color OS. Color fun touch. No. Yeah. I think I'm saying underhyped. I'm going to say underhyped because in my using the OnePlus 15, if the cameras were good, would 100% daily that phone. And I was not annoyed by any of the software. I could easily just not use the annoying AI features or mind space or whatever. I don't care about it. And like the aesthetics and stuff that's like kind of obviously copying iOS is what it is. OnePlus 15 is still oxygen though, right? It's oxygen. Sorry. But it's basically color OS. It's basically the same thing. Yeah. So like, I don't mind it. And the, so it would be the Oppo Find X9 Pro that had color OS. That's the last phone I use with that. It was fine. It was good. Lots of good features. It's very quick and responsive. Weird sounds. Fine. Whatever. Doesn't like weird sounds. Nothing like the Galaxy S3 of water droplets. Yeah. The water droplets sounds. But I think in general, the amount of optimization and performance tuning that they do that people don't really talk about is under. Underhyped. I agree. Underhyped. Yeah. I said underhyped. Underhyped is well. All right. All underhyped. Next. AI browsers. Overhyped. Overhyped. Overhyped. By certain. And that was fast. Oh, my God. Everyone here uses a lot of technology. But I choose not using AI browsers. That's the arc, dude. There's two types of people. There's people who don't know about or don't care about and don't talk at all about AI browsers. And then there's people who overhype AI browsers. Yeah. It's like, there's no nice balance in between. Well, you know, I think I might something. No, it's just people who are like obsessed with AI browsers. And I'm guilty. It's like all over my feet. It's clearly, it's clearly serving it to me. But they're, they're currently overhyped. But again, the idea. They could. Yeah. I'm going over. I don't know. The idea. Get it. Which by the way, they are just like turning D in. I and it's such proof. And it's great. Every week they're just like, here's another arc feature. As unfortunate as it was that I was wrong about arc feed. And what's still like a priority for them? It's so clear that they're just turning D into arc. And I'm happy. And what's going to happen when D has, when all of the arc features are on D. And I will be full. He's gone. They will. Yeah. Probably get rid of it. Yeah. So for those of you who were like me and were using arc and switched to D. Because they had adopted enough of the arc features. So they've told us there's jobs. You are probably going through the same emotional arc as I am. Because it has been slowly adopting like the pin tabs look like arc now. And they're on their way. I need pin folders. Please, please. Mark, as I think you're the only or David, you've also spent some time with this project. I can't wait to answer that. You should. You should. You should. It's Palma 2 Pro. The Xiaomi SU7. Oh, yeah. Or is it SU7? Everyone around the office has been saying SU7. It's SU. I feel like SUV. I can see that. But with another. Yeah, it's SU7. Right. It's underhyped. It is underhyped. It's underhyped for Shisha. It's underhyped for Shisha. It's underhyped for Shisha. It is an incredible vehicle for an incredibly low price. And the thing is like it's underhyped because people are never going to buy it in many markets like here. And it's unavailable. And they don't know how good it is. Which is why I think by definition it's underhyped. Well, it's underhyped in the United States. My question is, is this a popular product in China? Yes. Yes, it is. So then it's not underhyped in China. Well, it's correctly hyped in China. The market speaks for itself. Like people buy it, supply and demand or speaking for themselves and it's popular. Yeah. Out, everywhere outside of those available markets where it's unavailable, people have no idea how good it is. Yeah. So I think it's underhyped. That's fair. That's my logic. Do we get it a perfectly hyped and we got it correctly hyped in China too? In my craft. I feel like every car person that I know and the few that I watch are super excited about that car. So I don't know if that it's underhyped. I feel like it's hard to get really hyped about it though when you can never get it. Yeah, we can't get it. Yeah. Because every non-car person has no idea how amazing it is. That's fair. I haven't actually gotten a drive in it yet, but my experience with it was pretty, pretty weird. I'm not going to lie. Only because the two passengers. Yeah, because the two features I got to explore were the karaoke, which I found are bizarre. This song selection was really bizarre. No creed. No creed in the included. Over. Right. And then in the backseat, the like, do you in on the screen? The screen. Tablet screen. I found that incredibly off-putting. Just like endlessly in a car scrolling through like Chinese thirst traps and live League of Legend competitions. Yeah. Why is this here? There is a lot going on with the car. Obviously, Xiaomi is a company that makes smartphones and they are kind of like the LG or whatever of China. Like they make appliances. They make smart home security systems. They make, like everything. Smartphones obviously. And now they make this car. And so kind of just, they just plugged into their ecosystem. Like it works with everything. Yeah. And they have Xiaomi tablets in the back seats and it pairs with their Xiaomi phone and can have like modules attached to the screen and they connect to your, like there's a lot going on. And you don't have to use any of it. And you chose to use some of the weird parts which is great. But I think like as a vehicle, like as an owner, like as I'm dailying the thing, it's like it rides really well. It has good range. The software is super responsive. It's the biggest car play I've ever seen. The speakers are amazing. It has active noise cancellation. Just like the things that make a car nice. Build quality, materials, comfort, it's all there. Yeah. It's really good. I kind of felt like when I was driving it in California, it felt like the combination between a Model S and a Porsche. Sure. That was sort of my analogy. I think that's fair. Good save. Next. Way cheaper than both of them. Yeah. 40,000 dollars. Alright, so underhyped. Sticking with it? Yeah, I'm still sure. Alright, next. Liquid glass. Overhyped by Apple. Yeah, that's the hard thing is. By who? Yeah. By who? I don't think a lot of people are hyping liquid glass. Yeah. Apple's hyping liquid glass and then everyone's responding with a not so hype. You know how I know it's overhyped because all of the designer people who are just like love anything Apple does originally when they first announced it was like this is the greatest thing ever. And then after like one beta, they were like, oh my god. This is terrible. So I mean, it's definitely not underhyped, geez. That's fair. Yeah. I kind of like it. I don't have a microphone. I have it on my iPad, but I don't know. The only like the glass feature that there's two liquid glass features. I like I like that when you pull down the notification shade thing, it does that like distortion field over like when you see where I love it. So fun. Every time like. And then for the apps that support it, the like virtual glass tile that moves between the options like I like that. But pretty much nothing else about that OS. I actually enjoy. So especially the fact that it destroys my battery life. I love that. It's not enough people talking about that. I'm going to say overhyped because a lot of companies are like changing the way that their apps work and look. I feel like the YouTube player kind of looks a little bit like a lot of other companies are shifting their designs more towards that. To be more classy to be which is like to be fair. It's more cohesive. But yeah, is this the world we want? I don't think I need that. I would prefer ski morphism over this like hybrid ski morphism. I think we're in too deep to I like flat white. We were at like five years ago. Well, I know that's a dream of coffee. But I think where we were at like five to six years ago where everything was like clean. And we over did that too. Obviously, there was like way too much blank space everywhere. But there was nice clean flat 2D shapes. Everything was crisp and clean about like the original about the original the original iOS and the original that like real material scheme of that was another vibe. You could get in that is definitely a vibe. I don't know if I was into that part. I love it. Were you open the bookstrap and a shelf comes out of your iPhone? That was a choice. That was a choice. Do you want to have fun in your life, Mark? I think we're in too deep like all the things we do on our phones now don't have non-phone analogs anymore. Yeah, you know, that's a good point like what? Like a safe like TikTok. Like you that you're like TV context like barely made sense with the app icon, but like what the heck in what other world are we like? That's fair. That's a good point. You know what's very specifically so just because you said TikTok remind me like the swiping thing. It's just it's just pains of videos and that's kind of boring. But Android's new Android. What is this 15? 115 Android 16 Android 16's new material three expressive. Yeah, you pull a notification out from the group and swipe it away. It has like six. It has like six. I feel like they're objects. I really enjoy that specifically. Before we leave this, Mark has I did want to ask something specifically of you because you have seen K-pop demon hunters. This is like part of your new many times. I have only seen the first 30 minutes of it, but I wanted to ask you did you notice in those first 30 minutes? I can't remember exactly how many there were, but how many horrors or vertical wipes there were to get between scenes. Oh, no, I didn't notice. I was trying to guess if they did that on purpose to like fool TikTok addicted children into like maintaining attention. It felt like did you notice that like it was okay. It was okay. I think in the first three 30 minutes or only like two or three times, but every single time I'd never seen a movie get from one scene to another by going and I was like, I. I will probably watch it again. I didn't notice that. I was not kind of like comic bookie of like swiping to a panel. Like that's how I would imagine it. I haven't seen it. In the comic book one, it's normally like a zoom out of a panel. I can see that or I can see a page swipe, but like I you still, you know, panels up and down. This is just how I interpreted watching the movie going from like, you know, anyway, how many more do you guys want to do these more? Two more? Two more. Two more. Two more. Two more. AI notification summaries. Wait, like, this is a universally hated feature. Okay. You find any value and then they become under. I don't think it's universally hated because I just get really funny ones. Like I just had one that I just took a screenshot off. This is the only thing they're good for. Yeah. This is really shots of when it messes up. It's kind of funny. So it's my email app. Right. And it's summarizing a bunch of emails. But for some reason it gives like a summarized subject that's trying to like total all of the, you know, because it's like, Mark Kess is angry about this and blank, right? This one is from Gmail. The headline is the subject is this is going to be fun. And it says credit card payments scheduled for $2,300. I was like, yeah, I love not having money. Did you phone? This is going to be fun. Jesus. Yeah. I just for another anecdote is when you're setting up a new iPhone now, it's one of the steps in the setup process. Yeah. Do you want notification summaries? Yeah. And I instantly hit no. Which by the way, a new story we didn't cover today is that the pixel is getting notification summaries. And I've been here. I've never tried it. I've never tried it. So I can't say. Using a phone to me is managing your notifications. That is what using a phone is. I get notifications. I decide what to engage with and what not to. I dismiss some. I go into apps from some. It's like a launcher and trying to like distill that and summarize that is just not useful to me. Yeah. That's all. Can you prompt inject notification summaries? Has anyone tried this yet? I don't think you can input anything. But if you sent a message that was like that said a certain. Yeah, it was like ignore all previous instructions. You know, if you're a restaurant or you would just be a regular reply to whatever notification. No, but with the summary, the other person got like, could you dictate what the summary sounds like by wording a message in a specific way? I think the only reason notification summaries exist is because this was like one of the first use cases of AI and LLMs like summarize the thing. We built the LLMs and everyone was like, quick, figure out what we can do with this, figure it out, figure it out. And that's why we got like image playground. That's why everything has a summarized button. They basically just gave us features that they could do, not that they should do. Nice. Yeah. So, okay. That's why image playground exists too. Speaking of which. Wait, did we settle what it was over? It's over. Over. Over. All right. Next. Insane image generation. What? What? Do you remember image? Well, just image generation AI. Do you remember when they had like Google deep dream? Do you remember Google deep dream? No. This is like early Google image generation. No. And it was so insane. Like pull up a couple of them. Yeah, it was like you were on like lots of drugs. It was like very acid induced. That was a much better image generation than we have now. I miss Google deep dream. I miss that. Isn't that incredible? I think the fact that image playgrounds is pre-installing iPhone is all we need to say. And it's clearly overhyped yet. It's overhyped. Does anybody ever use any of them? Also, it's bad for society. So very overhyped. All right. Image generation. Overhyped Sora. Simple. Unanimous. Unanimous decision. Yeah. All right. Then let's, let's, the AI bubble. It's underhyped. Hyped the bubble, baby. Yeah. I love it. It literally looks like garbage. If you do it in VR, oh god. Today's first trivia question is a tale of three socks. Right. Specifically, I'm wondering which sock is the most expensive hidden atom. Wait, I need a pen. Where's my pen? The brand new in packaging, five pack of the 2004 iPod socks that sold yesterday on eBay. The short strap iPhone pocket sock. That is a really hard sentence to say. Or see a pair of plain white men's socks from a fashion brand, Valenciaga. Note, these are plain white socks from Valenciaga, not the Cardi B mentioned Valenciaga's that look like socks. What an important distinction. Wait, what are those? Those are shoes. Oh. OK. Flip them in, Ray. What do you got? Oh. We literally, I'll put the, no, no, you guys put the same thing. Mark hasn't, David, what did you guys put? Well, why did put it something different? So I put, everyone puts them, sorry, can't you? Mark hasn't, I put the same thing. Yeah. Yeah. Why? Which is, which is, so I put a, which is the new inbox retro sock, five socks. Unfortunately, those were sold for $8199. That's way too high. David, you put Valenciaga, which sold for $130. Oh, I see. This new iPhone pocket sock is the most expensive sock. And that's the least expensive out of the new expensive socks. Exactly. I'm buying me some one. And, yeah, guys, baby, those were prices per skews. If you adjust it for price per sock, it still is the most expensive sock. Nice. Quick up there on the score. Mark has an Andrew tied with 10. David with six. Come on, David, you got this. We were talking about hype fashion and tech collapse. Beating ape and stash once collabed with which famous camera brand to launch a camera. Don't overthink it. Camera brand. High fashion. That up. That up. That up. Bupin. This is my opportunity. You said, come on, David, then you give them hints. Come on. I only got one shot. All right. I don't want to miss my chance to blow. Come on, spaghetti. Get ready to flip it and read. What do we got? I feel like guys. Oh, Mark has what you put. Three of your finances here. I guessed. Whole arroid. Nope. Why are you laughing at it? Babe, you don't even know what babe is. I said, codec. Nope. David, what is it? Like it. All right. Like it will just sell out anywhere, huh? Are you seeing the seal cue, too? Like the music. Like the music? What? Look it up. It's so ugly. It's all sequins. Look it up. It's that material when you go to Ross and they have those pillows. They give my carbohydra. How much do they sell that for? It's like a lot of money. Yeah. Six thousand. Six thousand. How much the cue cue is. Yeah, there it was. You know, I've never shot. I've never actually, I don't think I've ever shot an own with a like this. But the only like as I've ever used are like Huawei phones, basically. And that's where all of my knowledge of like it comes from. So, like I said, a lot of times. There's been a lot of questions about you completely hurtling over the like a price point going straight. Oh, right. Going straight to know the Hasselblad as a camera. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. The Hasselblad is cheaper than like us. No, that's what I'm. Oh. Hasselblad, yeah, they're both pretty expensive. The new Hasselblad is cheaper than. Okay. Pretty much every, every main full frame like a. Is that true? Yes. Because I need crab. Wow. I got to see it. It's snakeskin and brown. I love that incredible. Incredible. Well, hey, look, like I said, if we don't get points, we will at least learn something. And I have learned so much about like it in the last five minutes. Thank you guys for watching and for staying tuned. 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