WarRoom Battleground EP 979: Finnish Politician Cites Romans 1 — And Is Convicted Under “War Crimes And Crimes Against Humanity”

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You might have heard some of these issues, but the various states, 20 feet in total, have in their own legislatures blocked the ability of Christian pastors, Christian parents to offer therapies of various kinds to their kids to reinforce the strength of the biological gender. These are loosely called conversion therapies. And as I was saying, 23 also states now have laws prohibiting this. The Supreme Court, I think it was yesterday, overturned a law in Colorado, precisely on this point, and that will now have repercussions for the other 23, the other 22 states as well. And the issue basically came down to whether these therapies were free speech and therefore protected by the First Amendment or healthcare. In which case it was something the states can legislate on. And in a very strong vote in the Supreme Court, 8-1, the Supreme Court said that it's a free speech issue. Frank Walker, tell me, break this down for me, because I think this is going to have massive repercussions now right across the country and those are the 22 states. Exactly what the issue was here and who was the one justice, associate justice who was indeed minority on this? Well, it's a fascinating case, isn't it? And we've been enduring this conversion therapy ban thing for a long time. In fact, there was a good Catholic group called Courage, which used to kind of do this kind of thing, but they've been neutered because of these laws. In Colorado, they had a law against it in liberal Colorado and the court struck it down. They didn't just strike it down by a majority, they struck it down. 8-1, only Ketanji Brown was the only person who disagreed with it, which I think it's fascinating. It's on the speech grounds, which is not, I mean, you would think that speech would have to do with something that was broadcast or public speech or something. You know, originally when they had freedom of speech, they didn't think of all these things at the time of their constitution, but it touches on healthcare, which they call therapy, psychological therapy, healthcare, also touches on, which isn't really mentioned much in the case, except for the person involved, the counselor, that it's a religious issue. And religious issues touch upon morality and how are you supposed to have law and justice without morality? It's fascinating all those things, and it's also fascinating that it was 8-1 against it. If the courts were so against, if the Supreme Court were so against this, why do we have to endure it for such a long time? And I think it speaks to the changing times that we're in, because in ruling against this, and the names of speech, and the name of free speech, they're also saying that you can't prevent pro-gay free speech or pro-gay counseling or therapy. Jenny from your show, she sent us an article a week ago or so, it was fascinating. Leo Veradkar from the former Prime Minister of Ireland was saying that he felt society was getting squeezed between Putin and Trump. And if you look at the way Russia handles these kinds of speech issues, they permit people to have gay lifestyles, but you're not allowed to propagandize about it. You're not allowed to convince young people to follow it. Which if you look at the United States, I mean the number of the gay young people have exploded in the last 10 years or 20 years or so. So this touches on a lot of different things, but I think it's kind of preventing future problems, and that's why you have some liberal justices have supported on the Supreme Court. I have to say that as I'm sort of following these various surveys as they come out, the number of kids who are identifying as LGBTQ plus, it's actually falling, the last one I saw was about three or four months ago, the figures are coming down now. So it suggests some kind of high water mark has already been reached. Just to indicate here, as you were saying, the two varying viewpoints. On behalf of the Christian therapist, her argument was basically that councillors walking alongside young people shouldn't be limited to promoting state approved goals like gender transition, which often lead to harmful drugs and surgeries. And in the opposite camp, you had Colorado saying that the state says that the measure simply bars using therapy to try to convert LGBTQ plus people to heterosexuality or to traditional gender expectations. And as you were saying, the majority opinion as written by Neil Gorsuch came down and said quite firmly, including two of the the the the progressive justices, Sotomayor and Kagan, unusually, I think, and that they kept this in an this is absolutely a free speech issue. Well, the left is upset and they're saying, well, you're not allowed to change someone's identity. But the and the counselor says, I'm, I'm just practicing my religion. But in reality, you, you, it's gay sex is something that you do. It's not something that you are just because you have that sort of a inclination. It doesn't mean that you're like stuck that way. I think most people that have gay inclinations are really kind of bisexual. It is healthy and it is good therapy to teach people restraint and discipline and to guide them to family life. And just because you have a gay inclination, it doesn't mean that you're, you know, you have to like, you have to like do every single gay outlet that you can imagine that's not healthy. That's not therapy. You know, and then I think that that's that's something they've been limited from doing and they should be able to have a right to do that because people that have that live gay lifestyles are transsexual lifestyle. You know, they're, as you can see in the press, they can be sometimes the greater numbers of massacres murders. They say that if you if somebody tries to convince you not to have gay feelings that they're causing you to commit suicide, well suicide is something that you do to yourself. You're the one who is guilty of it. But the suicides and the pathological and the dysfunctional kinds of things are much higher if people that live with, you know, not in normal family lifestyles and people don't embrace the the gender that they are and they reject the opposite sex. It's just there's all sorts of what you would call a therapeutic, therapeutic issues that are involved. And it's just and religious and morality issues and in teaching people to live a more of a happy and a healthy lifestyle and kind of all of that talk, everything I just said to you has been repressed has been illegal. And it's a wonderful thing to see it changing and I, these kinds of things are happening in the courts, people and the morality part of the media in the faithful religious and Catholic part of the media. And I think they're forgetting that in all of this, all this attacks is never Trump attacks on different issues are affecting the midterms and at the midterms when they come around in six months from now or whenever, we're going to lose this kind of momentum and these kinds of things at the courts. This is what's happening, I think in the faithful Catholic and Christian community with all of this lobbying against Trump this kind of thing is a result of Trump. And it certainly is a result of Trump and the nominations he'd made to the Supreme Court in his first term, right? This is a, I know sometimes the court goes against the administration, but this is a very clear indication of exactly the sort of thing because this, this, this Chancellor Kayleigh Childs, who was being supported by the Alliance for Defending Freedom was also very much being supported by the administration as well. So this is an indication, I think, of something that Maga had wanted to see when they elected President Trump and President Trump via his nominations to the Supreme Court, very much delivering on that agenda. Excuse me, I'm sorry. It is a religious issue too, of course, you know, so if you're, if you're in religious business and the religious media business, this is something that I would think you'd want to focus on. What are you looking at in terms of the Supreme Court and anything coming up that you that you have your eye on it, Canon 212, to see how the Supreme Court's going to go on other issues close to the administration's heart? Well, I haven't had a chance to look at it today, but I know that Trump was going to be visiting, actually be in the court listening to arguments over birthright citizenship, which is very important to the Catholic bishops. I know that and and really has a big chunk of his move to, you know, to try to control the overflowing borders, which affects the vote, which is really it's really a pro-life issue in many ways. And I think they're dealing with that today. And I'm not sure. I think it's unprecedented that he actually went to the court. And so if it does rule against them, I suppose that he's going to go and pursue a political path against it. I think Trump has had a lot of influence on the courts now, even though, you know, in his second term, not only did he had these ones that he's appointed, but he has an effective team. And for some one reason or another, he's able to have a lot of effect on the courts. I mean, it's amazing to see that they're so in favor of this. You know, when the court was really is really not, you know, is really not this much on the right as it came out. So I think Trump, even in the second term, and there are some people who may retire who are very good on the court, and he will have to appoint them next time. This kind of the whole world will change if the midterms don't go Trump's way. I mean, that will be the end of a lot of momentum. And I know what's happening in the in all of these wars. It looks really, really difficult. And the news is really terrible against it. But he's moving against globalists and globalist centers of power. You know, and when you see Iran, you see the economy, you see oil, you see the control of the price of oil. There's other layers to what's happening. And he's really squeezing Europe and was learned about today. Europe is a totally different situation. It's still like Biden land. It's still Kamala land in Europe. And he's putting the squeeze in an economically and in NATO militarily. And those things will will be good for Europe in the long run if we if Trump can continue to apply pressure like he already has in the United States. Frank, you've teed yourself up wonderfully. For me, come back to you later on in the show, the difference between Europe and the United States. Thanks in part to, you know, to tip the hat once again to the president's nominations to the Supreme Court. Absolutely astonishing news coming out of Finland. And I think it really does illustrate and also good news coming out of the States of Utah. I think that sort of just illustrates the difference when it comes to Holy Scripture in both difference with America and the EU. We're going to come back to that with you, Frank, in about a quarter of an hour's time. So please stand by and also, of course, in this when you when you come back, we're going to be staying on the theme of the Alliance for defending freedom. And because they're also involved in the Finnish case as well. And before we go to Joseph, think about this in 20.06. If you'd spent $20,000 and bought gold at spot price, you'd have bought yourself around 33 ounces. If you'd have held on to those 33 ounces and sold them today again at spot price 20 years later, you'll find that what you bought for $20,000 you would be selling for $165,000. That's why smart Americans are diversifying portion of their savings into precious metals. And that's why you need to consider buying gold from our friends at Birch Gold Group. For thousands of years, gold has been a store of wealth. 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And she appealed on social media to Bishop Robert Bannon, or as we call him on the War Room, Robert Bannon, for sustenance for some political support. Let's just say that political support wasn't forthcoming. How did he respond to her plea when she appealed to her fellow Catholic and Bishop, who himself is very prominent on social media? How did he respond and what reasons did he give for declining to help? Well, it was an interesting case. I mean, Bishop Bannon, first and foremost, is known for, let's say, trying to make things better than they seem very often. Of course, the famous case being there's hopefully nobody in hell. But among many other things, he tends to be overly diplomatic when it comes to issues of religious liberty. And in this case, called Carrie absurd for claiming that there was any anti-Catholic sentiment on the Religious Liberty Commission Board, which, you know, whether or not it's true, is not the way to treat one of the faithful who's reaching out to you. For more support and the public nature of he did it to me signify that there was something deeper going on, which is that he just simply doesn't want to give opinions that might be considered political and white. And, you know, I think that this is part of a deeper kind of problem, which really is not being addressed enough, which is, you know, how strong is too strong when it comes for standing up for your faith? You know, if that was a person of another faith, let's say a Muslim or a member of the Jewish community, speaking out against what they perceive to be and semesticals, lammaphobic tropes, I don't think a Catholic Bishop like Baron would be speaking out with the same vociferous anger, self-righteous anger and pomposity. So look, it's a complicated topic. And I think that as usual, Bishop Baron has managed to get on the wrong side of his pastoral duty. So we've got like about seven minutes before we go to the break. So that sort of limits how much we can go into this. But I, you know, we don't have time to cover this very fully. I'm certainly not in detail, but I do. But pertinent to the story is the fact that when on the hearing that was, I think, the last one earlier in March, March 16th. Carrie Pre-Jean Bolo was indicating at this meeting, she was indicating the presence of Zionism, excuse me, on the 9th of February. And she said, I'm a Catholic and Catholics do not embrace Zionism, just so you know. And I think that's somewhat relevant here to, and again, relevant because she directly criticised the Reverend Paula White on this very point in a previous post. I sort of think that she might have had more success if she had said that she wasn't kicked off in her appeal to Bishop Baron. And as I say, she's made this point elsewhere. I don't know how easy or successful she's going to find it saying she was kicked off the Presidential Commission on Religious Liberty because she's Catholic. I think it's probably, as she said elsewhere, more on the Zionist issue. And when she says, I'm a Catholic and Catholics do not embrace Zionism, here, Joseph Roberts, and I just want to put something to you, which is, I think this is a pretty good litmus test for the difference between Concilia Catholics and traditional Catholics. Because whereas I would say that the Concilia Catholic Church, which for sort of evangelical audiences, basically the churches that you would find in your parish on any streets. The Concilia Catholic Church, broadly, I would say is in practice Zionist, whereas the traditional Catholic Church is not. And the other thing I would have to run past you is in Bishop Baron's statement, which I think confuses the elements here, because he says, Baron says that he, the Bishop says he fully subscribes to the Catholic position on Zionism, which includes unequivocal opposition to anti-Semitism. I think what he's trying to do here is suggest, and this is what I would like to intervene and say absolutely not. While certainly some people are coming anti-Zionism from an anti-Semitic point of view, you can't say that all anti-Zionists are coming at that anti-Semite. I think that's the thing I would criticise as implications for being. I just wanted your quick take on that. Yeah, well, it's a very complicated topic, but I think the easiest and most succinct way of approaching it is to talk about the terms that we're using. I think the problem is that Zionism has become a broad capture term for many different things on both sides of the argument. I think what Carrie and others maybe are taking up and sat more than anything is whether or not their own national interests are being put first, first and foremost. That's the argument that they'll be reaching, perhaps in one particular lobby. It's more powerful than others when it comes to matters of Jewish clinterest. And secondly, whether or not some members perhaps of the board are subscribing to a particular theology of dispensationalism, which is essentially the evangelical Christian belief that the Jewish state in its current form and the Jewish religion is still the chosen people of God. Now, the Catholic faith would contend that the new church, the new Israel is the Catholic church itself as opposed to the religion of Judaism. Unfortunately, these more nuanced points don't come through when the debate is simply Zionism versus anti-Zionism because Zionism in its original form essentially make a mental belief in the creation of the state of Israel. And then starts to take on all kinds of other connotations in America more than it does in the Middle East, ironically. And so while a Catholic doesn't have to be opposed to the existence of the state of Israel or indeed the protection of the Jewish people, and certainly that would be an asthmatic to do so, it's perfectly credible to be able to challenge positions both of national interest and of theology. After all, we all have completely different beliefs in the three major Abrahamic religions. At all, a point of consensus that we all believe the same thing. And so, you know, free and fair debate on those topics is absolutely essential to a democratic society. And so I think the real issue that I'm seeing, particularly in America right now, is this absolute black and white in the debate. You're either, you know, anti-Semitic or you're not, you're either pro-Israel or you're not. And I think actually the positions we should be taking are a lot more nuanced, particularly as Catholics, you know, and the debate needs to widen. And this is a very sensible point. And it's always worth illustrating here that the Catholic Church gives wide leeway on political decisions under the classification of prudential issues, which leads it up to each believer or each person of goodwill to determine what they're in their own conscience and their own formation, what the best way of arriving at the common good is. It is worth pointing out that the hearing itself, the one on the February the 9th, was a meeting on anti-Semitism. So I think, you know, I think given that, I think there is legitimate leeway for Kerry to have brought up the issue of Zionism and you need anti-Zionism on both of those points and to have done so in that context. I find it quite difficult to see how the Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick could have said that she'd hijacked the meeting. But I think here on this kind of thing, people are going to look at that from different points of view, Joseph Hanne, according to where they came from. Just give me 30 seconds, as I say, you were in the States. Was this issue, it's been lighting up my social media? Were people talking about it there at CPAC? I didn't hear mentioned specifically to Kerry's case, but I know that there were many conversations over, you know, the difference in movement between the more pro-Zionist action and what I would call the America First action. And of course, that was clear there, as there has been a very constant loss, really, because there seemed to be a point of contention among the base, and it seems to me that it's going to continue long into the future. Yeah, long into the future, especially given the current situation in the Middle East. Oh, right, thanks for that report, Joseph. Stand by, we're back to you a little later in the show. Don't go away, folks. We'll be back after this two-minute commercial break. I got America in part. I got America in bay. In America's heart. The dollar's convertibility into gold ended in 1971. 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Well, I think back in 1962, the US Supreme Court did prohibit states having the right to impose compulsory Bible reading in class. But they left some wiggle room to say that you could study the Bible if it was for historical, well, have you purposes in context. And that is the leeway that the state of Utah is employing. And last week, the new bill signed into law by Governor Spencer Cox has done exactly that. It's requiring public schools to cover specific passages labelling the Bible as a historic document. Frank Walker, this there are two stories on on on scripture, I think, that make an interesting juxtaposition as you can trust as one contrasts the difference between the United States and continental Europe. Let's just spend just a few minutes on this. I think it's a fascinating development in America. What's going on in Utah? And then we'll talk about the diametric opposite in Godless Finland. Well, this is just a lot. It's not a court case, but it's amazing because all it is a simply a law that's going to include Bible passages, to some extent, in a historical discussion of the history of the United States and the founding United States. And that is a huge big difference because apparently since this case you mentioned 1963 where they said you can't, you know, quote, have prayers or Bible quotes at the beginning of class or something. Nobody in school has ever made anybody have to read anything from the Bible at all. And so now doing it is a huge big difference. And even though there's they're not required to decide on which verses they are for two or three more years, they they're going to just use it to teach history. And I think that that's that's interesting. And it's also necessary because religion, all kinds of religion, particularly Christian forms of religion have been so decimated in the United States, even here, that people don't understand the context of quotes. And in the in the Declaration of Independence, for example, they don't know what these things mean, they don't know what divine providence means. That's referenced in there. And so they need to have a little bit of background, just the smallest bit. It's not like they're, I mean, this is a, this is a where Mormonism is is centered. It's not like they're trying to teach Mormonism, they're not trying to teach any religion Christian religion, just using some quotes to get some context because it's absolutely necessary, because nobody will even understand it. And but that's progress that they're making there. And it's definitely it's definitely progress. And as you were saying that the Utah State Board of Education now has a couple of years, I think, up until 2029 to decide which texts they want to have included in the curriculum. What the I have it here, the what the Supreme Court said back in 63, no state law or school board may require that passages from the Bible be read, or that the law's prayer be recited in the public schools of a state at the beginning of each school day. And the established, this is the establishment clause that says you shall not establish a state religion, but that's this is a bit of a stretch, don't you think? For sure it is for sure it is. Do you think this is part of a board is this is part of a broader movement, though, throughout the United States, right? I think Texas has something similar and then you also have states that have 10 commandments on class students, which we've also covered here on the warm. So there is definitely I think a sort of counter a counter revolution going back in the opposite direction. The American culture historically has been very religious, very religious and and they would have never thought to have these sorts of restrictions back in the 1800s before things became so corrupted. They had these McGuffey readers and all they were was work were quotes from the scripture and teaching us of morality. They recognize that, you know, how do you separate religion from morality and how do you instruct children without putting morality in the context of everything that they're learning. And it's really ridiculous and it shows you that, you know, we don't want to talk about communism to have an enforced secular state where every single word of religion must be erased from everybody's mind. But we've been living it anyway, you know, we in fact we live it so strongly that we can't even, you know, and this is something that people like to say with the 10 commandments they recognize it. In this time, when we have a White House that's supportive of this, this is a time where they can move for these things and move in the courts. But the people are going to be supportive of this. That's why it's becoming, you know, becoming law all over the place. If you let it democratically become the way it is, people support it. You know, people just like with the conversion therapy, people don't want to live unhappy lonely lifestyles. Anyone who live religious discipline lifestyles like you're seeing young people all over the world are returning back to religion. You know, it was somewhere like this back in, you know, before you were born in the 80s. It was somewhere like this then so you can see how movements and people will change over time, but it's natural. It's very natural. And it's just a little bit back to the way America actually really is. That kind of threat of America turning back to the way it really is, is all throughout the way the government is the United States right now. It's a big push in it. It still has so much further to go. You know, public school itself was, you know, a German idea, you know, from the 1800s. I'm not sure it's such a good idea, but it means that you can't even teach children right from wrong. It's incredible. So more laws, more laws like this, and I hope that they're coming. Frank Walker, I'm still dazzled by if I didn't hear you incorrectly that you suggested that the 80 1980s was before I was born. That's that's that's cheered me up a lot. So now let's go from the sublime to the ridiculous. And talk about the Finnish Supreme Court ruling, which convicted an actual parliamentarian, not even some Joe Schmo, an actual sitting member of parliament, Pavey Rassenon, because of her publication of a pamphlet, which cited Romans 124 to 27. Incredibly, incredibly, this was, um, this was the third hearing on this because she they dropped charges in the lowest two stages of court. And as is the case here on continental Europe, whereas in England or America, basically, only if you're the defendants, would you appeal having lost a case here in continental Europe, the prosecution can appeal if if a defendant is acquitted. Sounds weird, but that's what what's happened here in Finland. So this parliamentarian, she was acquitted at the first two stages, the Court of Appeal, then overturned the the lower two courts and found her guilty under of all things, a section of the Finnish criminal code titled war crimes and crimes against humanity for hence, hence when I said we're going from the sublime to the ridiculous for her quotation of Romans 124. Tell us about this and what it, you know, just give me two minutes. It seems to me that if if you have to civilizational structures here, the United States and Europe, and one of them is so antithetical towards its own founding religion that that civilization being under attack from a number of different sides cannot belong for this world. Frank, just give me your your your your quick reading on on the Finnish development, especially how it contrasts to what's going on in America right now. Well, one thing, when it finally got to the high court, that's when it lost the justice and in the United States, the lower courts are seeing me worse these days and the real justice can happen at the Supreme Court. This woman is a brilliant woman of parliamentarian but before that she was a hospital doctor who is a physician and she's a Lutheran and she's making a case for for heterosexual lifestyles, which is the same thing. It's not something that you are something that you do you have an inclination for and then you follow up on and she's against most of the Lutheran church in there and I would say most of course the Catholic bishops. So she's able to rally support even against her own church, but still get people that are part of Lutheran religion to support her. She's gotten a lot of support from the United States, but you know amazingly they she's lost. You know they lost the case on her tweets and they lost the case on other elements of what she did on a radio show, but a 22 year old pamphlet is what gets her convicted way at the end of the game. I've been reporting I've been writing about this for years and linking to it again to 12 way at the end on this 22 year old pamphlet you know if they went back 50 years, they would everybody in on either side of the pond would be in jail you know they can they how can they find her guilty of something from if you think back 22 years, it was a completely different, you know they didn't crush like you mentioned they didn't crush the whole society at that point this is all a new society that they're overlaying over it over us and she got a lot of support from the United States. And I think people like Marco Rubio, the religious freedom commission that you were just talking about a lot of people have them backing her all this time. So you could show you can see and remember when JD Vance went to Europe, and he castigated them on censorship, and the shows you the difference, and hopefully the squeeze that's happening with the freedom and taking away their culture. Yeah, I do want to point out that it's the Alliance defending freedom again coming in and defending her. So well, on this is great story now I know you have been following it on can to want to. And we'll come back to as well I think because of the the import that it has for the list of continental Europe and increasing hostility towards Holy Scripture. And it is worth pointing out because you mentioned this 22 year old pamphlet, it is worth pointing out that the police had not received in 22 years, a single complaint about it. It was a prosecution built on on thinner. Franks, stay with us we'll come back to just in five minutes and do the socials very quickly what if you had the brightest mind in the war room delivering critical financial research every month war room listeners know Jim Ricard as our wise man, former CIA Pentagon and White House advisor with an unmatched grasp of geopolitics and capital markets. 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Uh, survey in Australia here, um, which is found that 65% of Gen X think that things are better if men do paid work and women do care. Not sure if that high figure now 65% is due to the fact that Gen Z is either because they're really conservative or if this is simply because they're sort of talking to Australian chaps. I suppose if you've got the headline statistics here, I tell you the one that that particularly came out to me was that a hence I thought of that track. More than 40% of parents in Australia reported fathers thinking that boys shouldn't be taught domestic skills such as sewing and cleaning. To which I would say sort of fathers don't let your sons grow up to be so as unless of course you want their first act to be as adults, young adults introducing you to their new boyfriend. Tell me about what's going on here in generation Z. Yeah, well, it's funny, isn't it? I think the easiest way to summarize is by identifying memes containing a lot of truth. The world is here at healing nature is healing. That's essentially what's happening. And of course these things go inside, don't they? So, you know, we've seen a generation without much attachment to any kind of responsibility. And now we're seeing a generation that is re embracing responsibility. I think it goes beyond just traditional masculine and feminine roles. This is all about responsibility and about men reclaiming their position as caretakers as providers within a natural environment. And it's interesting to compare this, I think to what happened in Scandinavia where of course they got as close as they thought was humanly possible to making options entirely open for women to go into stem industries. And instead of choosing science, they went back to the creative arts and men went predominantly into science industries instead. And I think this is what happens when you give a free and fair choice to society, people revert to what they are born to do and in their natural gender roles. That's not to say there won't be outliers and that we shouldn't cater for the possibility of women being able to rejoin the workplace when necessary, as they have done so successfully in Hungary as an example. Where of course, you know, they have a pretty much, I think it's three children over they have a lifetime, 0% tax from that point if they decide to return to the workplace but this is all about what happens in those formative young adult years. And one thing I will say is we were out in in CPAC as you mentioned already. Last week announcing British CPAC, which is coming to the UK in July this year. And one thing I noticed was the amount of young men immediately coming up to me. As soon as that was announced talking about, you know, bringing back more traditional kind of masculinity and whether or not there was going to be. I don't know that there were words like crusades flung around which perhaps I'm not allowed to promote but it was certainly a revival of that traditional young vibrant masculinity that I noticed this is in America of course I can't say the same just yet for the UK but we're working on it. I saw myself to the launch of the CPAC UK I think I'm this trust is I saw was quite closely involved in that. Let me just throw out to you a quick a couple of these two headline statistics of what's going on in Gen Z because it is absolutely astonishing. The survey found and they spoke to I think to 8000 or so parents, 72% of Gen Z fathers in Australia think that a father's sole responsibility is to provide financially for his children 72% and that contrast to 57% for Gen X, which I am. 72% compared to 57% on and you mentioned the key word there of responsibility here of what what this absolutely is. And it also found that 65% of Gen X think that things are better if men do paid work and women do care work compared to 45% of Gen X huge change going on and Gen Z and that's something that we we do follow both on the on the Friday, the Wednesday and Friday show. That's all we have time for folks Joseph what I know we've got you've had connection problems but why don't you. And so we have your Twitter screen up now but why don't you just quickly mentioned that and your R types on on substack where people can go to keep up with your writing and analysis. Yeah, of course, you can find me has seen on screen at JR types both on Twitter and on a sub stack and over on Instagram at Joseph Roberts in UK. And yeah, do you follow me that. And thanks for sticking with us as I say I know you've had a connection issues today Frank Walker where do people go. I have a Canon 212 and stumbling block stumbling block. And then 212 and further stumbling block daily update it's at rumble and a Gloria TV and putters. The Holy Week because everybody out there. Bless you. No, I'm still here. Frank, Canon 212 there we go. Yeah, I think we've had we did we have had some connection issues today. Thanks very much for sticking with us will be back with Frank and hopefully Joseph next Wednesday. So we've got time for Steve will be back in the chair at 10am tomorrow and I'll be back here probably hopefully God willing next Wednesday. Thanks to will and Spencer at Denver real America's voice taking for now God bless. If you're 65 or already on Medicare listen up folks and grab a pen, maybe even a number two personal call 845 war room that's 845 war room call it right now I'm serious call it. Now here's why the insurance companies and their lackeys in the Washington swamp have built a Medicare system designed to confuse you and rip you off. 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