The John Phillips Show

Live At Gladstones in Long Beach with Susan Shelley and John Sangmeister

38 min
Feb 9, 20264 months ago
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Summary

Live from Gladstone's in Long Beach, hosts John Phillips and Randy discuss California's Proposition 13 with Susan Shelley of the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association, focusing on threats to property tax protections and a proposed wealth tax. Restaurant owner John Sangmeister shares insights on how public safety and fiscal mismanagement impact small business operations in California.

Insights
  • California's constitutional tax protections (Prop 13, Prop 218) are being systematically eroded through court rulings and ballot initiatives, creating unpredictable tax environments for homeowners and businesses
  • The proposed wealth tax represents a fundamental shift in taxation philosophy—taxing assets rather than income—and would require comprehensive asset disclosure creating privacy and enforcement challenges
  • Small business owners face compounding cost pressures from property taxes, insurance, labor mandates, and public safety failures, making operational sustainability increasingly difficult
  • California's fiscal crisis stems from structural spending problems rather than revenue shortfalls, with cities unable to prioritize core services like police and infrastructure
  • Wealthy residents and businesses leaving California creates a cascading revenue problem for the state budget, particularly affecting income tax collections that fund education and services
Trends
Erosion of voter protections in tax law through judicial interpretation and ballot initiative loopholesExpansion of wealth taxation models beyond traditional income and property taxesMigration of high-income earners and businesses out of California due to tax and regulatory burdenDeterioration of public safety and infrastructure quality in major California citiesShift toward special interest-driven tax initiatives bypassing traditional legislative oversightGrowing disconnect between government spending and service delivery qualityIncreased business operating costs driven by insurance, labor mandates, and public safety failuresMunicipal budget crises spreading across school districts, transit agencies, and local governmentsFederal intervention becoming necessary for major California initiatives (Olympics, public safety)Grassroots taxpayer activism gaining momentum in response to tax increases
Topics
Proposition 13 property tax protections and constitutional amendmentsCalifornia wealth tax proposal and asset taxationProperty tax assessment caps and inflation adjustmentsTwo-thirds vote requirements for local tax increasesPublic safety funding and police staffing levelsSmall business operating costs and regulatory burdenCalifornia municipal bankruptcy and pension obligationsRetail theft and organized crime impact on businessesInsurance costs and fire department fundingHomelessness and public encampmentsIllegal marijuana dispensary taxationGross receipts tax and CEO pay ratio taxationLos Angeles Olympics 2028 preparation and fundingCopper wire theft and infrastructure damageCalifornia gubernatorial election and candidate positions
Companies
Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association
Organization leading petition drive to protect Prop 13 and fight proposed wealth tax in California
SEIU (Service Employees International Union)
Union proposing California's billionaire wealth tax initiative despite governor and legislative opposition
Gladstone's Long Beach
Restaurant hosting the live broadcast and providing venue for Prop 13 petition signature collection
Southern California News Group
Media organization where Susan Shelley works as a columnist covering California policy issues
People
Susan Shelley
Leading Prop 13 protection campaign and explaining tax policy threats to California homeowners
John Sangmeister
Small business owner discussing public safety, fiscal management, and operational challenges in California
John Phillips
Radio host conducting live broadcast from Long Beach and moderating policy discussions
Howard Jarvis
Historical figure who authored Proposition 13 in 1978 to protect California homeowners from property tax increases
George Gascon
Recalled DA whose policies on retail theft and criminal enforcement are criticized for public safety failures
Nithya Raman
Proposed raising taxes to replace stolen copper wire rather than enforcing theft laws
Daniel Lurie
Cited as example of effective leadership turning around city conditions and public safety
Matt Mahan
Cited as example of effective leadership turning around city conditions and public safety
Pamela Price
Recalled DA whose policies on criminal enforcement were rejected by voters
Quotes
"500 orders a month was manageable. 5,000 is madness!"
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"If you live in another state like Illinois, you know that they charge you property taxes based on the market value of your property every year, and you can't control that."
Susan ShelleyMid-show
"The billionaires are leaving. They're out of here. And that's really terrible because the way that our progressive income tax is structured, 1% pay about 45% of all the personal income tax revenue in California."
Susan ShelleyMid-show
"Public safety is not a red state, blue state issue. It is a universal need, it is a universal right."
John SangmeisterMid-show
"We've had these front doors broken six times in the last 16 months. They just come in and ransack the place. It costs $5,000 to repair the glass. I get a token stipend from the city of Long Beach. Here's $1,500 to repair the window. Well, where's the other $3,500?"
John SangmeisterLate-show
Full Transcript
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And right now we are pleased to be joined in person by the woman who has been collecting all of your signatures outside the restaurant to save Prop 13. She of course is with the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association and the host of the Howard Jarvis Radio Show which is Tuesday nights on K-A-B-C and K-S-E-F-O. She's also a columnist at the Southern California News Group. You can follow her on X at Susan underscore Shelly. Susan Shelly, welcome. Thank you. Well thank you. I think that's a bigger applause than we got. Yeah. Wow. Thank you everybody and thank you for coming and thank you for signing the petition to save Prop 13. It is so important. And this is something that you have been working on and the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association for quite some time. Can you explain to the people in the listening audience, and California is a state that is made up of people who are from here obviously, but many people move here from other states, they move here from other countries, and they may not know the history of why Proposition 13 is so important to Californians. Well if you live in another state like Illinois, you know that they charge you property taxes based on the market value of your property every year, and you can't control that. Inflation and market factors in real estate, you can't control what the value of your property is. So if they're taxing you based on the value of your property every year, you could lose your property when values go up. And that's what was happening in California in 1978, when Howard Jarvis tried five times to get the Prop 13 initiative on the ballot. And he finally succeeded in 1978, and here's what it did. Instead of people being taxed on the market value of their property and the statewide average tax rate was over 2%, he cut the tax rate to 1%, which was a tax cut for everybody, and he capped how much your property assessment could rise. It was capped at 2% a year, and then there were other protections to make sure that they wouldn't raise all your other taxes in response to that passing. And this is what we have to fix right now, because the courts are erasing those other protections. And one of them is a two-thirds vote requirement to pass local special taxes. So like a sales tax where the money is directed to a particular purpose, that's supposed to require a two-thirds vote. That's in Prop 13. But the courts have said that if it's a citizen's initiative that puts the tax increase on the ballot, the Constitution doesn't apply. Where did that come from? Right out of the air. We have to close this loophole, because what's happening is special interests are writing their own tax increase, directing all the money to themselves, collecting the signatures to put it on the ballot, and evading the two-thirds vote requirement. And your taxes are going to go up after every election if we don't fix this. And the worst part, if you live in Illinois and you have to pay that huge tax on your property, the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow is you still get to live in Illinois. Well, it's possibly the one place where the politics are more corrupt than California. Well, the taxes are very high there in part because of the prison budget when you have to house all the former governors that runs up quite a bill. Yes, it does. Now, I'm going to ask you a question I asked Sean Steele, because I think this is important to put this fight over saving Prop 13 in context. And that is this. Typically, there are certain guardrails that exist when it comes to taxes in California, where if you have a governor who wants a bond to be passed, they don't want anything else on the ballot that's going to take up the oxygen in the room. If there's a tax, they want their agenda item on the ballot and nothing else. And now what we're seeing with this wealth confiscation tax is we're seeing the SEIU come up with this money grab that's already driven a trillion dollars out of the state. The governor said, no, no, don't do that. There are other things I want that are on the ballot. Come back to it at some point in the future. And they said, no, thanks. We're just going to go ahead and do it. And they're doing it despite the objections of the governor and leadership in the legislature and certainly candidates running for governor. The guardrails are now gone. And if we give in on Proposition 13 with no guardrails existing in California, I don't think people understand what kind of fire that we're playing with right now. Well, that's absolutely true. And this billionaire's tax, this so-called billionaire's wealth tax, is not about billionaires at all, because this is a brand new kind of tax. They have never before in the United States taxed what you own. You pay property taxes, but you don't pay tax on your bank account. You don't pay tax on what you have in your possession. Maybe you've already paid taxes on what's in your bank account. This wealth tax would tax it again. And the part that really concerns me is once they set up the mechanism for seeing how much of everything everybody has, they're going to have a huge database of where all the money is in California and then make it right tax increases to go after the middle class. So they're going to know what you have in your retirement account, what you have in your investments, what your grandmother's silver in the cabinet. They're going to know everything you have, and then you're going to have to certify that you're not a billionaire. Well, I have a problem with that. I have a problem with people having to report to the government everything they own. Bad enough that we're taxed on income on the way in, sales tax on the way out. To tax wealth, this is a brand new thing, very threatening, a very bad idea. Well, and they want to continue this tax on people who have already moved out of the state. Right. With the argument being, well, you made it at some point in the past here, so we're going to lay claim to it even though you don't live or vote here anymore. I don't think they can do that. I'm told by attorneys that that's probably not constitutional, but they're trying to, and they're going to find a way to do some part of this. Why? Because they won't stop overspending in Sacramento and in all the cities and counties in California. Every single one of these entities is having budget problems because the revenue is growing, but the spending is growing faster. And their solution is never to cut spending. Their solution is always to raise taxes. And people in California are tapped out. We just can't keep paying more and more after every election like this. And to get a grip on this, we have to protect our constitutional taxpayer protections that are in Prop 13 and in Prop 218 from 1986, 1996, which was also a Howard Jarvis initiative. That's the right to vote on taxes act. Very important. By the way, in Prop 218, you can repeal existing taxes and charges and fees. Did you know that? With a lower signature threshold than you typically need for local initiatives. That's something to think about if you find that the sales tax is going up too often or the transportation taxes are going up too often. You can repeal those with an initiative under Prop 218 from 1996. Very important information for people to have in these circumstances. So people could theoretically organize if they wanted to repeal, measure ULA, the real estate transfer tax that has destroyed the construction industry in the city of Los Angeles. Absolutely. That can be repealed with a local initiative. And the signature requirement is 5% of the number of people who voted for governor in the last general election. So it's pretty low. It's lower than what was needed for the George Gascon recall, which was 10% of the county's registered voters. It's 5% of the number of people who voted in the governor's race. So countywide, that's about 150,000 signatures. It's pretty doable. And the state of California not only has to worry about their problems and the state of California has a million and one problems, but let's just look at public transit right now. Public transit is going under and these agencies, these special districts are going to look for a bailout from Sacramento. The school district in Oakland is effectively insolvent. They're going to be looking for a bailout from Sacramento and you just go down the list. San Diego has problems. Other big cities, other big school districts. Sac Unified is broke now. Transit agencies, they're all going to turn to Sacramento and say, okay, give us a bailout so we can continue to be operational. And if the state decides that that's the direction that they're going to go in, they're going to need a lot more money and they're going to come to homeowners looking for it. They absolutely are going to come to the middle class to get that money. They're not going to be getting it from the billionaires. The billionaires are leaving. They're out of here. And that's really terrible because the way that our progressive income tax is structured, 1% pay about 45% of all the personal income tax revenue in California. So for every one of those people that moves out and is now filing taxes in Florida or Texas where there's zero income tax, that's a big hole in the budget in California. That affects education, healthcare, paying the CHP, everything in the state budget. If the billionaires move out, it leaves a mark. So this was a really reckless thing that the SEIU did by proposing this billionaire's tax. Not to mention the fact that it got everybody really aggravated and active in politics, which could ultimately be a good thing for us. Well, let's talk about just the climate. Because if you and the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association were to get enough signatures to put this on the ballot, and the voters in California were to reaffirm their support for Proposition 13 and homeowners' rights, what message do you think that would send to the legislature, the governor, and all of these groups who are looking to put more taxes on the ballot? I think it would let them know that we have the ability to get this message out. They can't stop us from telling people what's going on in this state. We don't need that much money to get the message out that they are trying to raise your taxes. People hear it the first time you say it. So I think they would be very wrong to try and raise taxes in this environment. It's been a tough run for Californians. Cost of living here is way too high. It's because of the policies of these politicians. That's why the cost of living is higher here than in neighboring states. It's not like the universe is tilted at California and making prices go up. It's the policies that they're doing. So these politicians have to get a grip on the spending, and they have to stop trying to raise taxes. In fact, I think we should be trying to cut taxes from where they are right now. It's too much. Run for me the worst case scenario. Let's say we are not successful at getting this on the ballot. Let's say the SEIU is successful at getting their initiative on the ballot, and voters were to vote it in, and people were to continue to leave the state in droves. What do you think the future looks like here? Well, it's possible that some of the cities would go into bankruptcy. I don't think the state can legally go into bankruptcy, but some of the cities could. And I think what would happen is they would have to get out of all of their union contracts. So that would not be good for public employees. That would not be good for all the union members, because they would be cancelling not just the union contracts, but all the procurement contracts and everything else, and renegotiating things. So you mentioned the school districts going bankrupt. That's because in many cases they are paying not too little, but too much for the volume. It's sweetheart deals, and they're paying too much for everything they buy. You could get out of those long-term contracts and renegotiate everything. So the worst-case scenario is very bad in the sense that people would not be paid what they're expecting to be paid in their pensions. They might lose some of their healthcare benefits. Some of those contracts would be renegotiated, but then you would be starting over in a more sustainable financial footing. And here's the thing, too. It's not like this is just going to stop in California. This is going to spread to other parts of the country. You can't run away from your problems. I mean, people, I'm sure, in your circle, as in my circle, you know, who say, well, I never go to the doctor because the doctor is just going to tell me something I don't want to hear. Well, just because you don't hear it doesn't mean you don't have it, and if you don't do anything about it, it might kill you. So you need to accept reality, confront it, do something about it, because it's just going to follow you wherever you go. But we're Californians. We don't accept reality. You didn't do that. Well, it's true that we do have to worry about economic sustainability. You know, they talk a lot about sustainability for climate and environmental things and housing and cars. They don't talk about whether it's sustainable that we've got these enormous pension obligations, or it's sustainable that we have too many public employees in too many places when we could run a little leaner and not have so many expenses. So we have to think about financial sustainability in California. Nobody seems to be doing that. The city of Los Angeles has a problem with copper wire theft. Yes. And now there are entire neighborhoods that are in the dark because there's no copper wire in the neighborhood, and that knocks out the power, and there's no street lights anymore. In some neighborhoods, it knocks out the internet because the internet is dependent on that copper wire being there too. And we know post-COVID, a lot of people work from home. They're depending on the internet to be able to do their jobs. That is not something you can depend on in certain parts of Los Angeles. LA City Councilwoman Nithya Raman, who's part of the DSA voting block on that council, recently put up a video saying that she doesn't want to put people in jail for stealing the copper wire. What she wants to do is she wants to raise taxes so we have more money to replace the stolen copper wire because we don't want to arrest anyone for stealing it. Now, how does that add up? How does that add up? We're just going to let people rip the street lights apart, and we're going to let all the homeless encampments tap into the wires and steal the electricity, and then we think we can raise taxes to make that up. What is she thinking? I still am trying to figure out how they're going to tax illegal marijuana businesses. Isn't that the greatest? So if you haven't heard this story, there are a lot of illegally operating marijuana dispensaries and marijuana growers in the city of Los Angeles. Apparently, it's impossible for the city attorney's office to shut these places down. So while the city of Los Angeles is facing a budget shortfall, they came up with this great idea to put an initiative on the ballot that would change a couple of words in the ordinance that would make it that we can send tax bills to the illegal businesses because sure, they'll pay them. Sure they will. And what are you going to do? Pull their license? They don't have a license. What are you going to do? This is so California that they want to tax the illegal businesses because they've already taken the legal businesses and ground them into dust. It's so unfair the way the city of Los Angeles is taxing businesses. And now there's a union that's trying to put an additional gross receipts tax on top of the existing gross receipts tax if the union thinks the CEO, wherever the CEO is, could be in another country, if the CEO is paid too much in relation to the workers in Los Angeles for that company. They want to add new business taxes to those companies. And this is on top of all of the other mandates, minimum wage and all of that that are driving people under. How worried are you about the Olympics because the Olympics are coming here in 2028? You drive around the city of Los Angeles. We're in no condition right now to host something like the Olympics. It will be embarrassing on the international stage to host the Olympics in the condition that we're currently in. Do you think they're just going to allow the Olympics to come here with Los Angeles looking like it looks? Or do you think it's going to be like the morning that the cleaning lady comes to your house and you do everything you can to try to make it look like you don't live like a pig? Because you don't want to be embarrassed when she gets there and says, oh my god, how can a grown adult live like this? I think it's the 101st Airborne coming in from President Trump that's going to clean up Los Angeles. Just power wash everything? Everything. Well, what did they do in San Francisco when the President of China was coming? They cleaned it up in like two weeks. And then suddenly everything was just sparkling and there was a giant fence around it. And I think that's because it was some sort of national security event and it wasn't the city government that cleaned it up. It was the federal government that cleaned it up and they don't mess around. So I think that'll happen. Beyond just infrastructure crumbling, the city is just dirty right now. Yes. If the city was a person, we'd look like Willie Nelson. And Willie Nelson looks like someone who just needs to be vacuumed. Well, you're right. And there's a tremendous amount of litter. And one of the problems is that they charge a lot of money to dispose of garbage. You need permits for disposal. There are limits on how much garbage a business can legally dispose of. We're under these laws that say we have to limit landfill. And as a result, ever since those laws took effect, we have illegal dumping. And that's a big part of the problem. They should just pick up the trash. As much as there is, they should pick it up. And they should stop saying, we're not going to pick it up because you have too much of it. Because it goes somewhere and where it goes is everywhere. And this is why Los Angeles looks the way it looks. And you're going to be here until three o'clock today, collecting signatures to protect Prop 13. Yes. Everybody should come on by. All right, Randy. We're live at Long Beach. We're here until three o'clock at Gladstone's at Long Beach. You can meet Susan Shelley and you can get her petition. Sign it. So we have enough signatures to get Saving Prop 13 on the ballot. If you can't make it here today, go to the website saveprop13.com. Susan Shelley, thanks so much for joining us. Thank you, John. Thank you, Randy. It's the John Village Show live from Long Beach. All right. We're live from Gladstone's in Long Beach. We're here until three. Come by and say hi. We're here until three o'clock. If you can't make it here in person, well, we need you to go to that website saveprop13.com. That's saveprop13.com. Sign that petition. Send it in so we can all continue to kind of afford to live here. We're here until three o'clock. Thank you all so much for coming out and can't wait to get out there and take pictures with all of y'all. Thanks for coming. It's the John Village Show live from Long Beach. Yay! What a great crowd we've had today. And it's interesting. We did another live remote at our friend's place, the Pineapple Hill in Sherman Oaks. It's almost a completely different crowd because we're in almost a completely different county right on the southern border of LA County. We're so glad everyone came out here. We're having such a great time. I have eaten like a king and we're all here for an important cause. Susan Shelley is collecting those signatures to saveprop13. The website. Tell your friends. Tell your family. Tell a stranger. Saveprop13.com. Yeah! And right now we are pleased to be joined by the owner of this wonderful establishment who is not only hosting us now but has hosted us before here in Long Beach. He's the owner of Gladstone's Long Beach and Gladstone's San Diego. You can get them online at GladstonesLongBeach.com and follow them on X at Gladstone's LB. John Sagmeister, welcome. Thank you so much, John and Randy. It's wonderful to have everyone here. We appreciate your friendship for our restaurant. Thank you all for coming out and supporting a great cause. Welcome to Gladstone's Long Beach. Can we thank Scott and Carolina and our entire Gladstone staff for a great day today? Incredible wait staff here. I better thank my wife too. I think she's listening and I love you dearly sweetheart. We have been sampling so many of your wonderful dishes here. We had the ahi tuna pokey, we had the crab cakes and then we had my personal favorite which was the Parmesan crusted halibut I believe it was. There's a cheeseburger coming too. Oh boy, it's Friday. Jimmy Buffett Friday, cheeseburger and paradise. Oh boy. And if I ever, I needed a palate cleanser for fish. I was at the Admiral's Club over at the airport. I had some fish. I think they caught it off the Exxon Valdez. But this one, my goodness, it tasted fresh and that's what you want to hear when you're talking about fish. Indeed, indeed. We're lucky to have a great culinary team. Thank you for mentioning San Diego. I'm reluctant to do it because every time someone asks me when are we going to open, it intends to invite a delay. But I think we're within more than 50 and less than 90 days so we're looking forward to doing a remote down there in San Diego at Seaport Village. Oh how great would that be? Yeah, it will be great. And we're right on the water's edge and we are very excited to grow and extend the Gladstone's grant. Well LA gets the Chargers and San Diego gets Gladstones. Indeed, indeed. That's the trade-off. Yep. Now we have a race going on right now for Governor here in California and they're speaking to voters, the people who will be deciding who is going to lead the state for the next four years. Obviously one of the groups of people who they're trying to connect with are small business owners because California exists on the back of small business owners. As someone who is a small business owner in California, as you watch these debates, as you watch this campaign play out, what issues do you have in mind that they should be focusing on to make life easier for people like you? Well I think that public safety and quality of life are universal needs and requirements for any candidate for governor. I often speak with our mayor here in Long Beach and I say, you know, public safety is not a red state, blue state issue. It is a universal need, it is a universal right. And I'm happy that, I think we can look around the state right now and be somewhat optimistic that there are green shoots of great leadership from both parties that are demonstrating an opportunity that if you do those right now, if you do those right things, Daniel Lurie, Matt Mahan, they're turning their cities around and they're doing it thoughtfully, they're doing it with great care for those who are in need. And if, you know, two years ago if we went to Union Square, that was a hell hole. It was awful. Today if we went there for Christmas there were 15,000 people underneath a Christmas tree with skating and the rink. So Los Angeles can turn around too, Long Beach can turn around too. It's all a matter of what the ambitions and goals of the leadership are. I'm glad you said public safety because that's an umbrella that touches any number of subjects that impacts almost every aspect of your life. So let's just take one aspect of public safety, fire protection. If the fire department is not fully funded, if the fire department does not have the resources they need to adequately fight a fire, that leads to a chain reaction of misery for homeowners, for small business owners, when things like renewing your insurance pop up. Well, if the insurance companies believe that the state of California cannot provide adequate fire coverage, then your insurance is either going to go through the roof or you're going to be canceled. And that's going to impact what you charge on your menus, that's going to impact what you pay your employees, that's going to impact almost every aspect of your world. You know, I've heard people say, oh, it doesn't matter, they're insured. They have no idea what the consequences of the costs are. I used to sell a pound and a half of King Crab for $29.95 on Friday nights. Oh my. Tonight it's $155. Like, it's shocking. I'm embarrassed to put some of these prices on a menu and these criminal activities impact everyone's lives, everyone's expenses. I can't report. We've had these front doors broken six times in the last 16 months. What are you, a 7-11? It's heartbreaking. They don't get anything. The drawers are empty. They just come in and ransack the place. It costs $5,000 to repair the glass. I get a token stipend from the city of Long Beach. Here's $1,500 to repair the window. Well, where's the other $3,500? Like, can we, instead of paying for bad behavior, why don't we buy more police officers and make the city safer? I saw a statistic and I believe it's correct. Chicago, that city of great safety, they have four police officers per thousand. Long Beach has 1.1. That's a problem. And people don't think about Long Beach as being a big city because Long Beach exists in the shadow of LA. We're bigger than New Orleans. We're bigger than Atlanta. We're bigger than Miami proper. Like, we're a big city. We're almost $600,000. This is a big metropolitan with a lot of challenges. And I wish we were more focused on the core services that government is supposed to deliver. We're building a $28 million Ampett Theater with taxpayer dollars that two private companies offered to pay for and split the profits with the city. But instead, we're going to pretend that we're rock and roll developers and we're going to shell out the money for a temporary facility. The seawalls are collapsing. The roads are going away and we don't have enough cops. You mentioned that there are seeds of optimism that exist in California right now. And I think what you said is true, especially when you put it in the context of what's happened in recent years, where the people of Los Angeles County dumped district attorney George Gascon. My neighbor. He walks his dogs by our house and I yell out the window, the man who ruined California. And his wife flips me off on YouTube. The people of Alameda County dumped Pamela Price. Yes. And the people of California voted in Proposition 36 to take people committing acts of retail theft and throw them in jail. Yeah, but the governor won't fund the infrastructure for 36. So that's a problem. I mean, if you go talk to Chief McDonald, they're out there in the street. I've never seen Long Beach PD more lit up at night. I'm going to read. There's a new song that I'm writing for the city of Long Beach to the tune of Simon and Garfunkel. Instead of the sounds of silence, it's the sound of sirens. We have sirens going on all the time around here. And, you know, our law officers now are on a mandatory overtime every month. That's no way to run a business. That's no way to run a police force. These people are stretched so thin, you know, they want to reduce the police force in Long Beach another 20%? Wow. Cities can't sustain themselves that way. Our property taxes are our biggest source of revenue for the city. We are not keeping pace with our neighboring communities. So I always say to our city elders, look, focus on these quality of issues so that the property values will grow and your tax base will grow. We don't, we need more, better incomes in the downtown. And to do that, we need to have a safe environment that employers will say, you know what, Google, we're going to build a satellite office on Pine Avenue. Let's go. You're big into sailing. You're someone who's a fan of sports. Is LA ready for the Olympics? That's challenging. That's challenging. I could give you some inside baseball, but I won't. I think that there are a lot of challenges. Look, we have 18,000 families in LA County that are homeless tonight. We are a billion dollars, running a billion dollar deficit. We have an emergency fund right now for 10 million people of $15 million, which means that when it all hits the fan, each one of us gets $1.50 so that we can go to McDonald's when it's on sale and have an ice cream cone. So like we're not prepared financially. The good news is that the president announced that he's formed a federal task force to support LA 28. And you know, for LA 28, they require $7 billion. It's going to require some sort of federal bailout, which is great. It'll be at the tail end of his presidency and his glide slope into private life. I think he'll want to make certain that this is a wonderful majestic event welcoming the world to a fabulous city. And some of those events are going to be right here in Long Beach, right? I'm proud to say that my college roommate and I were instrumental in the early days when it was LA 24. It started off with sailing. We brought sailing here and then the IOC and LA 24-28 toured Long Beach and it expanded to 11 games. And I won't be surprised if a few other events come here as well. Now I have an idea on what could help the Olympics generate more ratings this year. Steroids. Have you read what they're doing in the ski jumping? Now hear me out for a second. I don't even think we can say what they're doing on the radio. It's unbelievable. I thought it was just testosterone and it's testicles. Well, why not? If Pamela Anderson can have fake breasts for entertainment, why can't they have fake muscles? It's just like, what? I'd watch. Google this if you're listening on the radio because you're going to say the ski jumpers are doing what for a competitive advantage? What? Wait, what am I missing here? I can't even say what they're doing on the radio. I have to tell you during the break. Well, can you mime it? They're injecting their cucumber with steroids. Oh my. So that they have greater surface area to create more lift as they glide down the mountain. Okay. Apparently an extra centimeter gives them another three yards of flight. Okay, well more fruit inside the loam. John Segmenter, owner of Gladstone's Long Beach. Gladstone's Long Beach. Thank you so much for hosting us. When we come back, we're going to play name that drop and be giving away a pair of tickets to see Stain. It's the John Phillips show. 500 orders a month was manageable. 5,000 is madness. Embrace intelligent order fulfillment with ShipStation. The only platform combining order management, warehouse workflows, inventory, returns and analytics in one place. What used to take five separate tools, ShipStation does in one. Go to ShipStation.com and use code START to try ShipStation free for 60 days. It's the John Phillips show live from Long Beach. We've had such a wonderful afternoon here at Gladstone's in Long Beach. If you couldn't make it today, it's a great place to visit on the weekends. If the weather is perfect down here right at the Long Beach Harbor, you can see the Queen Mary. It's beautiful here. The food is incredible and I didn't have any today because I'm a responsible broadcaster, but let me just tell you, the MyTies are fantastic. We want to give some thanks to all the people that helped us put this together today. Let me start with the man to my left here, Matt, our masterful engineer. Make sure these things go off perfectly. We want to thank Kevin and Tricia who helped put this remote together and get everything organized. We want to thank our sales department, Missy and Debbie for helping put this stuff together. We want to thank everyone back at the radio station, Hermann and Wayman and Adam on the phones. We want to thank Art, even though he was too sick to come here today, so we thank Art for not giving us COVID. We want to thank our program director, Lewis, and of course we want to thank the incredible crew here at Gladstone's in Long Beach, John Sengmeister, our servers, our bartenders, the bussers, even the dishwashers. Everyone does such a great job here, and of course we cannot help but thank the woman who's responsible for all of this, for this remote and the one that we did last month, Susan Shelley and the Howard Jarvis Taxpayer Association, sign that petition, savepropp13.com. And I also want to thank whoever it was that made the cake, because someone came up and asked me, the cake that had my picture on it for my birthday, and they said, who's going to eat John's face? And I said, my guess is whoever ate the bath salts. And right now it's time to play a game that we play whenever we leave the studio, Randy. It's called the Eat Up the Last Five Minutes of the Show Game. Here's what we're doing. We're giving away a pair of tickets, 790K ABC, welcome stained to the Toyota Arena on October 10. Tickets are on sale Friday at Ticketmaster.com, but instead of giving these away on the phone like we did in the studio, we have a listener with us who is going to have to guess one of our famous drops, and if he can guess correctly, he's going to get the tickets. What is your name, sir? Dennis. Dennis, speak right into that microphone. Dennis. All right, Dennis. You know, if he were Richard Dawson, he'd offer you a lollipop right now. All right, here's how this is going to work. I'm going to play you a sound bite of somebody who is running for governor. You just have to tell me who that person is. Are you ready? Here we go. Sorry for the noise. I'm cutting carrots. Who is this? Sorry for the noise. I'm cutting carrots. Oh, wait, give him another one. Okay. Because he may not have been able to hear her clearly in that particular cut. Okay, tell me who this is. Get out of my f**king shop. Oh, God, what's her name? I'll give you a hint. She's America's sweetheart. Katie Port turf. Oh, congratulations. That is right. All right, you are going home with the staying tickets, but just because we've still got another minute to kill, I'm going to give you one more. Now, wait a minute. One of our listeners picked her up at a bar and took her home. Would you do that? No, but I heard that. I heard that guy. How drunk would you have to be? I couldn't get drunk enough. Oh, poor Katie. I'm going to give you one more. And this one's a shout out to all of our Bay Area listeners. Name this former mayor of Oakland. Absolutely. Absolutely. Wait, give him another one because that was very short. That's right. I like that. That was amazing. That's Shang Tao, everybody. Yes. All right, let's do one more here and the audience can definitely help. Name this insurance commissioner. Trailblazing is rarely comfortable, y'all. I think I heard Ricardo Lara. Very kind of sketch. Well, people confuse him with the Queen of England sometimes. All right, let's see if we can do one more. Name this, oh boy, say it, Mike, you're brought out the beverages. Oh boy. Name this recalled former district attorney, well, elected out of office, former district attorney of Los Angeles County. We got some Wallinies allies. I think I heard George Gascon. Quite frankly. Those are just some of the drops that we collect and play all the time. Of course, we have them all in a big rally at the end of the year for the drop of the year. And I'm sure already early in February, the year is still early. I think this drop is going to be in the top 10. Sorry for the noise. I'm cutting carrots. Congratulations, Dennis, you're coming home with the pair of tickets to Stain at the Toyota arena. Yeah, yeah. And I did say, John, that we were going to be responsible broadcasters and we were not going to have a sip of booze until the show was over. Well, apparently the show's over. Look at this. It's Jimmy Buffett Friday. Couple of my ties going down the gullet. All right. Now, are these meant for us or were these going to the airline pilots? That is a terrific my time. Thank you all so much for coming out today. If you're still here, thank you. We'll try to take some pictures and say hi to everyone, especially there have been people that got here before I did at 11 30. Thank you for coming out and supporting the show, supporting the radio station and of course supporting save prop 13.com. Have a great weekend, everyone. Enjoy the big game and we'll see you on Monday on the radio. Yeah.