Nightcap Hour 2: Unc to HAVE Knee SURGERY + Cooper Flag FIRST ROOKIE since MAGIC to reach HISTORIC NUMBERS + 10 STRAIGHT WINS for Wemby’s SPURS + Suns OWNER wants MORE STARS on All-Star WEEKEND + NFL GM says NO INTEREST in Tyreek Hill

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This is where teams are built. free agency combine pro days trades every move matters from my draft boards and mock drafts to my vaunted top 101 free agents and how rosters come together quarterback movement surprise signings we'll tell you what it means and who really wins open your free iHeartRadio app search 40s and free agents and listen now well speaking of what's that what uh your boy gonna have to go I got a partial tear of my medial meniscus. Oh, man. That's in your knee, huh? Right here. Dang. Are you sure you need surgery? Well, I got to go see the orthopedic. I got an MRI yesterday. What did they say? I'm bone on bone on the lateral with arthritis, severe arthritis. But I got a slight chair. I still got some cartilage in the medial side. So I'm going to see what they're going to do. Do they're going to go in there and cut and snip? What are they going to do? Are they going to do a complete repair? Or do they cut and snip? Man, you trying to catch up with your boy. under that knife. Damn. Oh, I might've been bowling. Oh, so you did it when you were bowling? Oh man, good thing you were- Man, why don't I sit like that? Man, why uncle, why you think I sit like that? My ish was on fire. Okay, okay. And then, and then stand up, because think about it, we did all that in one day, and then all that stand up on Netflix. Yeah. Yeah. It didn't swell. It didn't swell. But I just noticed, I was like, well, damn. How the? I was like, man, it hurt so bad. First, when I got home, I had to go up the steps. I was like, well, damn, my knee hurting. But I was like, you know what? Hey, I've been on the plane. I've been standing. I just flew six hours, Black Cross Country. I was like, I'll be all right in the morning. And boy, I tried to come down the steps. Man, I was like my dog. I was scooting down to step one, two, three. Hold on, hold on. I got a question there, right? Now, you know, health is what's most important. But does this mean we're not doing nightcap outside no more? We are. We just, you know, we just had to, you know, take a couple of days off. I'll be back better than ever. and I was just getting into a swinger thing. I'm doing my cardio. I'm getting six hours a week. I was like, I'm feeling so good. Yeah. Man. Damn. But I knew something was wrong. I told myself, I said, I'm getting all right. She said, what's wrong? She said, probably just, I said, nah, I'm living something wrong. I said, I think I told my meniscus. She said, how? I said, I don't want to tell you. Hey, hey, hey, hold on, hold on. Hey, when we had them injuries, we be knowing. Yeah! Because boy, let me tell y'all something. When I tore out, when I blew out this patella tendon, you know what happened, I got right on the plane, so you know what's wrong with this. Oh my goodness, Joe. It smell up. But when I got home, my lady told me, I was like, oh, you gonna be all right. Put some ice on it. Then I'm steady, I'm steady telling her, I'm like, man, let me tell you something. This thing, he ain't right. I ain't never felt like this. Did it roll up, Joe? Did it roll up your quad? Yeah, it wrote not all the way, but it rolled up enough to where like if I'm sitting straight, if I'm sitting, I can't lift, I couldn't lift my leg at all. Yeah. You know what I mean? I could still walk and you can, I could tell because I'm walking the stairs. I'm like every week it kind of kept getting better, but I'm like, it wasn't good enough to be out there doing no moving. Oh no. I could tell you that. So I went on, got that MRI and it was a wrap. Man, man. You talking about getting up, going to the bathroom, Mocho? because once that leg be done, that thing be done. Boy, I was like, Lord have mercy. I said, I need to lay some plastic down. I should just pee in the bed. It's my bed. Hey, hey. Hey, with this patella, boy, they didn't have you thinking that for real. Man, I thought I was like, ooh, Lord. I mean, I really truly try to stop. I'm in the kind of chat. Y'all know I used to drink tea. I mean, I used to drink, you know. Man, I tried to stop drinking water by five o'clock. I eat at 7.30, just eat a plate of food and no water. No drink, no nothing. So you ain't gotta get up, huh? Hold on, hey, Ocho, with this patella, they gave me this big jug. Yeah, you ain't gonna be, because the first couple days, you can't even get out of bed. You just gotta keep it straight. Oh, they gave you that goose, Ocho. You know normally they give you that goose like they would give you in the hospital? You have to- Boy, listen, hey, I had that thing filled up. Because you know now, they won't let you leave unless you pee. The hospital. They won't? Nope. So I was like, hey, go on and give me that goose. Yeah. Yeah, you're going, yeah. Mr. Sharp, you need some help? No, I need y'all to get up out of here. I need y'all to get up out of here. When y'all come back, I have something for you. When I did my hips, Joe, when I did my hips, I got my hips done, I probably got them done at like 10. It's like an hour and a half surgery. So they take you down to the recovery room. They like, Mr. Sharp, Mr. Sharp. Right, right. I can hear Shelly, Shannon, Shannon. I said, yeah. I said, it's over with. She's like, yeah, your surgery done. You did well, Mr. Sharp. I'm like, has anybody done bad in surgery? But okay, I would take your word for you. You said I did good. Okay. It's like, well, Mr. Sharp, I mean, as soon as you can get up and walk, you gotta walk up and down a flight of stairs, you know, three times, walk down the hall and we'll let you go. Excuse me? It's like, yeah, if you walk up and down, you walk up and down the hall and fly the stairs a couple of times, we'll let you go. I think she'll help me get up. Yeah. That's a help me get up. I'm getting up out here. Absolutely. That was tough though, wasn't it? What? Joe, man. But, and the doctor told me, he said, Mr. Sharp, he said, you're not going to feel any pain. He said, the only pain you're going to feel is where we actually went in. Because they go in, take the ball out. You know, you got a ball, like a big gumball. They take it out. He's like, Mr. Sharpe, you want it? I'm like, what the hell am I going to do with it? I mean, it ain't no trophy to me, old JoJo. It ain't no trophy. Right. Man, throw that issue away. So, man, I got up there. Shelly helped me down. I walked up and down the face. She's like, slow down. You're going to fall. I said, man, please. I need to get up out of here. I walked up and down. Hey. I'm like, Doc, y'all looking? They was like, Mr. Sharp, but they won't let you walk out of the hospital. They put you in a wheelchair. Because they're not fit to fall on their watches and own the hospital. So they put me in a wheelchair, walk me to the thing. Man, I jumped in there so quick. Then they give you all these instructions. No driving, no operating, no heavy machinery, blah, blah, blah. But three days I was driving. I drove myself to rehab. Hey, hold on though. When that numb and stuff wore off, how was your idea? You had to take like pain medicine everywhere. Well, what happened was, Joe and Ocho, they gave me something that I had allergic reaction to. So I ended up having to get rushed to UCLA Medical Clinic. I'm just breaking this news to y'all. Y'all didn't know this. So I'm glad that nobody see me. But I had to go because I had allergic reaction. Hives everywhere. face swollen. Damn. I'm talking about everywhere. I'm talking about arms, torso, all down my back, and my throat started to close. So I had a large reaction. They don't know what. They said, well, Mr. Sharp, we would literally have to give you some of everything that we gave you to find out what the reaction to. So they would literally have to stick me, wait 10 minutes to see if that caused it, stick me. I said, oh, hell no, I'm good. We'll figure it out. I said, just give me... Guess what? go back, have the other one done, the same reaction. What? Yup, the exact same reaction. Oh, man. Damn, but y'all boy, y'all boy, like little pincushions, boy. God, dude. Chill, chill, chill, chill. I'm just saying. Chill, chill. This is- Hey, hey, hey, this is a sensitive subject, bro. This is sensitive subject. I know, I know, I feel you, I feel you. I commend you, I commend you. Joe, they talking about you putting a belt in me. Oh man, come on man. Hey, come on now, come on, come on. Hey, once I get this thing back, a rematch, it's on. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. How long are we talking? It all depends, it all depends on what they do. I mean, it could be three to four weeks, it could be three to six months. Damn. Hey, hey, listen, let's stick to like some shooting pool, throwing the shots or something. Oh man, shooting pool. Boy, I'm Efren Reyes and Earl Strickland. You don't want none of this in the pool. He better than how. Here y'all go. Here you go. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Man, y'all don't want none of Slim. Old Georgia Slim. Y'all heard of Minnesota fans. Old Georgia Slim. Bah! Hey, listen. Y'all know what's going on. Yeah, but hey, man, look here. Like I said, hey, I was like, man, caught my homeboy Bucket, man. That joker had both knees replaced. He had back. My homeboy was messed up. And like the last two years, he'd have had neck surgery, back surgery, and both knees replaced. Damn. Jesus. Hey, man. We got to get y'all back moving. Hey, I moved. I was a triple jumper. I was a long jumper. Hey, like I said, there are some times I went out there on the football field, I ain't have no damn business out there. The way I was feeling, I ain't have no business. I know that. So that's why it's hard for me to have sympathy for guys. Look, I'm going to go out there. I got to. I know my teammates counting on me. And I know it's a finite period of time in which I got to be great at this. And that's why I was able to walk away, Joe, Ocho. I was in such peace because I know I left it. Everything I had, I left it on that. Mm-hmm. I left it. I left no stone unturned as far as my eating, as far as my training, as far as my rest, as far as the way I met, the practice. I left nothing. I didn't owe the game nothing, and the game didn't owe me nothing. Now, the game took a lot from me, but it gave me a lot too. It gave me a lot. Absolutely. Absolutely. But, hey, knock on wood, Ocho. You ain't had no surgery. you and me here you are damn near 50 years old and they ain't had no surgeries i'm 58 i'm 58 man get the hell yeah joe that's an asterisk man i was hurt that's an answer yeah the game was so joe man i told i told my i told my meniscus like the third frame we were right there joe we were neck and neck chat go back and look at it okay ocho can i talk to chat chat i need y'all to chime man on this man it wasn't even close you know for them to be coming up with all these them yeah you just you just you you you i know i know you i know you i know how you get down brother no i know i'm not i'm that's what unc said he was hurt unc said he was hurt that's why he lost to you yeah i know what was wrong with you oh i i don't bowl that's not something i do i don't bowl and i don't golf so i'm i'm i'm doing things that you guys are familiar with so therefore i ain't nobody I've been bowling for them in 20 years. Me. I think the last time I bowled with the kids, it had to be like 2000. Hey, don't start that. You talking about you got your own ball, your own shoes I got four bowling balls Hey listen listen listen Y athletes though Y athletes man Y supposed to be able to dab quick Y supposed to be able to pick stuff up Look at the other one you couldn tell he was an athlete Who? Actually, I'm the best athlete out of us three. Huh? You might be- I'm the best athlete out of us three. I just, it was one of those days where I was like- Nah, that ain't had nothing to do with it. Hey, Joe, I was like, Kade Cunningham another night. I just, you know, we know what I can do. I just ain't show up that day. But you know what? I'm going to be right back here. We're going to be right back here. I will see how y'all talking when y'all 58. Hey, hey, hey, 82% of the chat. I appreciate y'all chat. They said that it's not an asterisk. I'm sorry. Joe, stop reading the comments. This is an asterisk rolling. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I told you I'm with the people, so I got to be in tune with what's going on. No, but I don't know, Ocho. I mean, the thing is, guys used to have bowling things. And so you go to the bowling thing, you can get a bowling ball. It's like, okay, you get shoes or you get a bowling ball. So, hey, I get a bowling ball made. We used to have bowling tournaments at the Broncos. That was, you know, we have offense against defense. Yeah. I get a bowling ball made. Even here in Atlanta, we had events at bowling alley. Ocho, what y'all were doing in Cincinnati? Nothing. What kind of events? I mean, Joe, I can't recall us ever doing no bowling, Joe. I'm going to be honest with you. Man, we went to the movies. Like after practice, doing OTAs or something, we all going to the movies. It'd be about 12 guys in the movie. Everybody, hey, everybody be in that thing sleep by 30 minutes in. Somebody wakes up, hey, man, you got some popcorn left? Yeah. But no, no, no, no, no. No, no, we did. We went bowling every Tuesday. And we be, nah, you see how I was acting bowling? Oh, it was worse than that with us. It's worse. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, man. Guys break dancing, doing the centipede. Guys dribbling the bowling ball like it's a basket. Man, that dude, hey, you go to bowl, they bowl down the other lane. I said, man, y'all be cheating, man. Y'all be doing some kind of cheating, man. Oh, but listen. Cooper Flagg is the first rookie since Magic Johnson to reach these stats in 40 games. 750 plus points, 250 plus rebounds, 150 assists, and 50 steals. Joe, what's Flagg's ceiling? Oh, I think he's, I think he has the potential to be a superstar in this league. Okay, Joe. I mean, he's shown, he's shown superstar potential. You know, obviously, J.K. playing him at the point, him probably learning that position at this point in time in the pros, it's definitely going to help him down the long run. He's a prototypical NBA guy, 6'9", 6'10", who can handle the ball, shoot the three, create off the dribble, post up, make guys around him better. He got the potential to be one of the greats. He got potential. I agree. I think he has a chance to be special. He's, like you said, he got the body size. he can put the ball on the floor he can shoot the ball you know what Joe when I saw that man against the Redeem team or whatever they called themselves and they was in Vegas and that man was dunking and that man was putting the ball on the floor against AD and all them guys I said oh this man ain't scared of nothing this man ain't scared of nothing he was 16 then how old is he? 19 now So he's about 17, 17, 18? Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, I think he surprised a lot of people with that, too, because he was showing me some skills that he had and who he was going up against obviously was the elite talent of the NBA. And he held his own. He held his own. And from that point, you know, he's been dubbed as one of the next ones up. He was 17, right? Yeah. 10th grade wins for the Spurs for the first time since 2015-16. They beat Orlando 112-103. They beat OKC 116-106. They beat Dallas 135-123. They beat Dallas again 138-125. They beat the Lakers 136-108. Golden State 126-113. Phoenix 121-94. Sacramento 139-122. They beat Detroit 114-103. And tonight they beat Toronto 110-107. The Spurs are now within two games of the Thunder, first to the West. The Spurs have won 15 of their last 18. Hey, they balling, boy. And look, they had six guys in double figures tonight. And Fox led the way. But the one thing about when I look at the Spurs team, obviously Wimby anchors a lot. He had five blocks, Uncle Ocho. But he don't necessarily have to put on a stellar performance offensively for them to win. They got so many other guys who can chip in and put up numbers. All he got to do is anchor the defense. We got the rest. And that's what's been going on as of late, man. They've been playing great ball. They on the road smacking teams. And, man, look here. The man blocking shots don't even leave the floor. How you block somebody don't even jump? It's almost unfair. It is, bro. It is. It's almost unfair. Because we never seen nothing like it. You know, his size, the way he moved, moving like a guard. Like, it's insane to even watch. I'm going to be honest with you. And Wimby, he didn't have, I mean, they shot 47%. They made some threes. They were 17 to 39 from the three. But you look at Champagny. He had 10. This is the biggest night in podcasting. The countdown is on to our 2026 iHeart Podcast Awards. Live from South by Southwest, March 16th, we'll honor the very best in podcasting from the past year and celebrate the most innovative, talented creators in the industry. It's truly a who's who of the podcasting world. Creativity, knowledge, and passion will all be on full display. 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And was Daniel Ricciardo's illustrious F1 career a success story, a cautionary tale, or some combination of both. He started getting all this attention, and he maybe started to think, I'm bigger than this, I'm better. And plenty of other mishaps, scandals, and sagas that have made Formula One a delightful, decadent dumpster fire for more than 75 years. Listen to No Grip starting March 4th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Wimby had 12, Fox had 20, Basel. Basel. Yeah. Is it Vassell or Vassell? Vassell. Is it Vassell? Vassell. 21. Stephon Castle had 13. Dylan Harper had 15. So. Yeah. But why you talking Vassell has been consistent over the past, I don't know, few weeks when I've been really watching him. He's been getting off. He's been getting off. Yeah. They did a job. I mean, you shoot 50% against San Antonio, you done something. Man. Because you better be making some outside shots because you ain't going to be getting the whole damn layup because Wimby will be racing all that. Hey, he going to make you think about it even when you do coming out. Yeah. He going to definitely make you think about it. He nice. But they do it by committee, Uncle Ojo. Yeah. A bunch of different guys, bro. A bunch of different guys. And everybody played a whole bunch of minutes. I mean, the most minutes we played of Vassal and 22, Fox played 30. Wemby played, excuse me, Fox played 31. Wemby played 30, but you had a bunch of 21s, 14s. The starters, only, Castle only went 13 minutes. I'm wondering if he, excuse me, only went 28 minutes. Yeah. I'm wondering if he got Nick. They deep, man. They deep. They deep. I mean, you look at Harrison Barnes coming off the bench. I like Cornette, who was with Boston, the big dude. Yeah. Yeah. So they got some guys who – But that's – he's the – isn't he a spur? When you look at it, Kelly Odenick. Yeah, he is. When you look at it, Kelly Odenick, when they had Yaka Pearl and they had – what's the guy? Yeah. He's the head coach of Portland now. Yeah, Splinter. Splinter. Yeah. They're the perfect guys. Yeah. When they had Bonner. Yep. Yeah. So they go, Hey, if, uh, uh, depending on how long she gonna be out, they might catch them. Even if they don't, they don't want to see, they don't want to see San Antonio in the post season. Unless they have to face them in the conference final. I want somebody to knock them out. So I don't have to deal with them. Cause Wimpy is a problem. You're right. Wimpy is a problem. You're right, but it's going to be tough beating them in the seven-game series. We. So it's on a map. Ishba wants more NBA stars to participate in the All-Star Weekend, Joe. Oh, Joe. When Phoenix hosts the Miss Seasons Showcase next year. To help, Ishba has offered to pay $1 million prize to the winners of the 2027 Slam Dunk and three-point contest, with another million going to the charity in each event. The concept, however, will run afoul with the CBA. Officials of the league office said the players union told ESPN such prize would not conform with the existing bonus structure. Ishpa did not consult the league office before making an offer, but he's motivated to find a way to get stars to participate in the event. I think the stars have been participating in the three-point competition. Hell, you get Stale, you get Dane, you get Book. I mean, you get Donovan Mitchell. You had Clay Thompson. Some of those guys have participated. It's just the dunk contest is that the stars don't participate anymore. And that's what everybody want to see, Uncle Joe. That's what I said last time we talked about it. They have to find a way to incentivize these fellas, even though they're making $50, $60, $70 million, make it worth a while. that's the only way to get players that are elite at what they do that are making the most money to get them to do something. A nice little chunk of change, you know, to have some fun with. Do whatever you want to do with. Let me go out here and get this extra, you know, two, three million. What? And win this contest. Be creative, you know, and then go about my business. You ain't doing it? You wouldn't do it? No, I don't think motivation is the issue. I don't think them guys. Look, if Jordan could do it for $25,000, you think these guys and Jordan and what Jordan making two million dollars if you think these guys is making 40 50 60 million dollars a year gonna be motivated to 2 million you mistaken they're not doing it but they complaining about playing 82 games making 70 million right okay that it unmoved with money but hey listen but but with it being incentivized like this I think I think we'll have some guys who probably we didn't expect i think guys will step up i mean obviously three-point shootout is already where is that that's already interesting but yeah i think for a million dollars ant-man making 50 million so what's a million dollars do to him hey joe that that's that's i mean listen it's not insulting it's a lot of money so i don't want anybody in the chat to say you know it's a man we're talking about in comparison to what nba players are already making. We're at the all-star break and listen, I have a chance to make a good chunk of change to do something extra with. You know what? I don't have to touch my salary money. I don't have to touch my endorsement money. This is just a little fun. I can give it to my girl. I can give it to my wife. I can put it up for my kids. Whatever it may be. They're making $20 million. They're making $30 million in endorsement. They not moving for a million dollars Ocho That what I just said That insulting almost insulting you you got to come up with a better number than i could they don if you unmoved there is i don believe there a number that could move a guy i don i do i do i know i know to move a guy what five million for the dunk contest they moving they moving for extra five whether it be Anthony Edwards I mean who else is a a pre-new all-star that has that kind of creativity and excitement when it comes to dunking Joe? Zion you gonna put Zion in there? Zion you gonna put John Moran you gonna get Jada extra five? Yeah they gonna go I guarantee you I bet you let's bet it's different now Ocho what motivates guys if it ain't in you no amount of money can get you to do it it ain't in them I like that it ain't in them I like that but I know for that for that 5 they're going to get that people quick to say they quick to talk about Jordan and Kobe and all these guys they were doing it when the winner got 25,000 yeah this is a different time huh this is a different time exactly that's my point they make so much that's why i said think about it them guys make more in endorsements than probably jordan made in his career in two years of endorsements now i'm not talking about what jordan i'm talking about jordan's salary i'm not talking about what jordan did with nike that's a whole different issue right and we know and congratulations to jump me but jody it ain't Why do you think they stopped doing it? And the risk of being judged and the risk of being losing. They don't want that. The same thing I said, the same thing about it, Ocho. When we did the Pro Bowl joke, the loser got 5,000, the winner got 10,000. And then it went to 25, then it went to 30, then it went to 50. It went to 100,000 and the guys still wouldn't do it. Them guys, when you start making the kind of money that they're making, that they making. And I think another thing that plays a major part in this is that it's mid-season. This is our only break that we get. A lot of guys ain't willing to, you know, be out there. They really want to rest. They really want to go off and do something else. I'm going to Jamaica, Cancun, somewhere. Right, right. So look, Ocho, think about this. So All-Star Weekend, I'm in a dunk contest. It's the only event I'm doing. this Saturday night, man, that's going to cut into my plans, partner, for All-Star Weekend. If the money was the issue, don't you think these shoes companies, Adidas, Puma, Skatcher, Jumpman, Nike, don't you think they can say, hey, Ant-Man, I got an extra five, ten million, you win the dunk contest. You don't think they'd ruin the money? Of course they would. They not moving. It don't move them. It's got to be in you. You got to want to do it. Money can't be the incentive. Man, think about what they get. Joe, how else do y'all get paid? Money is the incentive. Come on now. Money is the incentive. So you get paid the first and the 15th. So a guy that's making $50 million a year. Right. Plus when you tap on what he's doing in endorsements. Okay, let's just say we're going to be generous. Another $20, $30 million. So he's making somewhere between $80 and $115 million. and all of a sudden you think, whoa, five million really does it for me. He could do a car signing. God, they doing no money. Hold on. Hold on. I think we got... Hold on. David Falk. Yeah, I knew about him. He told a story that Jordan had an opportunity, somebody offered Jordan to show up for three hours, offered him $100 million. Jordan said, no, I'm good. $100 million, Ocho. So you just told me money moved people. $100 million for three hours. Now, we cannot compare Jordan. Three hours. Oh, Joe, stop it. Let me ask you a question. That's different. We talk about Michael Jordan. Three hours. The greatest. Three hours. $100. And he said no. it's michael jordan 100 million ain't moving him so you think five million moving the guy that making 130 million dollars thank you i appreciate that i don't like the comparison in jordan the players that are playing today i don't like that comparison you make my point because jordan was going to do it for 25 and you think the money and you think that's what's going to do it for them extra money jordan was making three million dollars in contract plus he's probably making at that time, he had Hanes, he had Gatorade, he had Nike. Let's just be generous and say he was doing $20 million, $30 million. So he's doing $33 million. These guys, some of these guys are doing three, four times that. Mmm. This is the biggest night in podcasting. The countdown is on to our 2026 iHeart Podcast Awards. Live from South by Southwest, March 16th, we'll honor the very best in podcasting from the past year and celebrate the most innovative, talented creators in the industry. It's truly a who's who of the podcasting world. Creativity, knowledge, and passion will all be on full display. And the winner of the iHeart Podcast Award is... See all the nominees now at iHeart.com slash podcast awards. Audible is a proud sponsor of the Audible Audio Pioneer Award. Explore the best selection of audiobooks, podcasts, and originals all in one easy app, Audible. There's more to imagine when you listen. Sign up for a free trial at audible.com. I'm Daniel Jeremiah. And I'm Greg Rosenthal. And this is 40s and free agents. 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Listen to No Grip starting March 4th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Like I said, if it meant something to these guys, if it meant something to the shoe companies, they'd do it. Say, Ant-Man, you win this thing? or Jordan Brand, you win this thing? Because the superstars are participating in the three-point competition. They got some guys that shouldn't be in the three-point competition, but they're in it. But you get Steph. As long as you get Steph, you get Dane, Kniepel now, he's going to be a regular participant. You get Donovan. Ant-Man, because Ant-Man led the league in three-point competitions. I just think the thing now, Ocho, is that the guys, the money doesn't move the guys you gotta wanna do something because like you said money i don't believe money moves people not when you get to a certain level i mean you gotta really break it worth my while to get me up off my couch yo-yo hey you gotta get it you gotta get it up on bible you gotta get well the way to a i mean you know i ain't listen with the way them boys spend that That extra five ain't gonna hurt, I can tell you that. He ain't gonna go that, he ain't going no extra five though. No. I'll go to Phoenix and get that little M. Joe, hey, let me get the three-board competition. Yeah, I get that shit. I go out there and do something, participate in something. Hey, hey, Joe. What's up? Hey, matter of fact, hey, Unk, and since you gonna be down, right? Like you down and out for a little bit, you gotta go into the night. You could like, me and Joe could play one on one for a million. Boy, look. What do you think about that, Joe? Hey, put an extra million on it, I won't let his ass go. Hey, hey, hey, Joe. Hey, Joe said I'd be the easiest money I ever made. What? I'm just saying that, that'd be good. Hey, Joe, I'll play hard as hell, Joe. It's okay, you can play hard, that ain't gonna mean nothing. Hey, Joe, I play like my life on the line, Joe. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. You still will have a chance. You will have a chance. Hey, Joe, let me ask you something, though. What's up, bro? With all due respect, I know you're one of the better players of all time. You know, you have an opportunity to go into the Hall of Fame. But you think if we go to 11, you think I ain't going to score one point, Joe? If I don't want you to, nah, you won't. You don't think so? Nah. Like, Joe, like slightly like with all due respect, I really feel like. But because I like you, I think you're a good guy, I'm willing to probably ease up, give you about two points. You lucky enough to get you at least a point or two. You know what I mean? But if I ain't want you to score, you wouldn't score, partner. I don't like that, Joe. That's okay. What you saying, Joe? What you saying? Off-tail, collard greens, cornbread, neck bone, fried chicken, pork chops, collard greens, mac and cheese. Hey, hey, hey, I don't mean no disrespect, but he lightweight disrespecting me, telling me I can't score a point. I know you're NBA player. I know you want to- I'm just keeping it real. I know it sound like disrespect, but it ain't- Hey, Joe, I'm taking it as disrespect. I'm telling you, Joe. Well, take it how you want to take it, Ocho. Shit, take it how you want to take it. We can get to it, boy. I'm telling you. I'm coming to see you, boy. I'm coming to Miami, boy. I'm going to come down there and slay some dragons home, boy. I'm coming to see you, man. Don't get me turned up, because you know You give me, turn me down. All the way turned up. Hey, we done created a monster zone. I don't know. We done created a monster zone. It's the chat fault too. Come on Joe. Joe, for real Joe. See? Damn man. Damn man. He done pissed me out. He done pissed me out. I tried to be cool with y'all, but now I'm sick of it. He done pissed me out. Now, see what I tell you about, man. We were good. We had to get that out of the way. We was good for my guy. Nah, I'm sick of it. I'm sick of it. Hey, Ocho. I promise you, boy. I had a great day at therapy today, too. I'm pushing that sled, pushing it down, pulling it back. With that weight on there. I promise you, boy. Hey, Joe. I don't like you telling me I'm not going to score. Ain't nobody finna tell me what I'm not going to do against my will, Joe. I'm going to score a point. I'm going to score maybe two, maybe three. At least you can say I told you, partner. At least you can say, man, he told me. Hey, Joe. Real talk. As a grown-ass man, Joe. What's up, bro? You slightly disrespected me. That's okay. That's okay. You can be disrespected. You still gonna get this work, homeboy. All right. When you finish with therapy? When you finish with therapy? I'm gonna send you the dates. As soon as we get out of here, I'm gonna text you the dates on your phone, partner. Yeah, all right. Yeah. How much you putting on the game? Anything make you nervous. Come on, talk to me. Well, hey, don't nothing make me nervous, right? I'm good, Joe. What you want to do? Make it light on yourself. Oh, Lord. Call it, man. What you want me to get from it? How much you want me to get from it? I'll be healing up. You want me to get? Hey, hey, hey. While I'm mad, I'm going to get your 5,900 too. While I'm mad. Oh, yeah, get my 5,900 while you're at it, Joe. Yeah, I'm going to get your 5,900 plus tax. Hey, what you do? and make sure so it ain't no excuses, make sure we bring cash to the court. Oh, say less. Yeah, make sure we bring cash to the court. Yeah. Say less. Okay. Hey, I don't know. Hey, I don't know somebody- I'm about to let you out a crowd a little while long. You get my 50,000 hundred, Joe. Oh, say less, I got you. I got you. Yeah, I'm glad. So y'all teaming up against me? Okay, bet. Bet. Hey, I've been alone with you all my life. That's you and Joe. You the one that challenged that man. I ain't got nothing to do with this. I'm injured. I'm going to- Hey, but I did heard you chipped in. I did heard you chipped in about letting him be the king a little bit longer. Okay, okay, bet. Yeah. Hey, hey, hey, Ocho, Ocho. I earned my respect homeboy. I took what I wanted. You know what I'm talking about? Right, I hear you. Yeah. Wait, listen, I'm gonna tell you what. I'm gonna take what I want too and I'm gonna earn my respect. Okay, all right. Joe, we got to get you a nightcap slant. You got a wall back there Joe Yeah I got one I can put it up right there You go you go hey you got to put it on because you know Ocho Ocho You don't even know he got one. Now my side work though. Oh, here he go. We can't see that. That thing's so far to focus. Hey, don't worry. Don't worry. Remember, remember they do them, they do them a room. doing my room at the end uh at the end of this month boy they've been doing that no they've been doing that room no i said they coming to do it they got other they do other jobs my my uh my dates aren't scheduled to the end of february you do realize that's like in two days yeah the end of february that'd be here i'm gonna have to do it so you said they're gonna be there on friday or You're fair to me. Yeah, it'll take two weeks. But yeah, boy, this dude got me bit, boy. Who? You. I mean, yeah, yeah. That's what it's gonna feel like on that goddamn court playing with me. That's what it's gonna feel like. With all due respect, now you ain't finna tear me, I ain't finna score no one, two points. Like I'm not an elite athlete. What you talking about, man? It's me. They're keeping it 100, my boy. You ain't keeping it 100. It's going to be, man, all right. Well, hey, Joe, you got me. Man, we're almost cursed, boy, and I don't need to curse no more. I don't need to curse no more. We're almost cursed, boy. New Ravens head coach Jesse Minter hopes to change players' attitude towards OTAs. He said today, first of all, I do have total respect for the rules that it is voluntary. Totally understand that. And Lamar has an unbelievable success doing it both ways. And so there's certainly a balance there. But I think it's our job is to create an environment and a learning opportunity where they feel like it's really important for them to be there. Ocho? You got a warning. We had sound? We didn't have the sound of that, did we? Okay. What did you think of Ocho? What did Mr. Singh say? He said he understands that it's totally voluntary. and he understands. Right. And he understands Lamar has had success doing it both ways. But he said, I think it's our job is to create an environment and a learning opportunity where they feel like it's really important to them to want to be there. Hmm. Yeah. I like the words. It's all up to Lamar. Whatever Lamar wants to do. I mean, it would behoove him being at his new system, a new officer coordinator uh new coaches and i'm sure everybody i mean they will have a hundred percent attendance even though it is voluntary because i think you know man look i'm trying well uh uh you didn't have a coach because marvel was there your whole tenure so you didn't have a coach yeah well no remember i remember i had dick lebow first oh you're right you're right you're right you're right you're absolutely right ocho and then you got and then you got marvin but did And so as long as you don't change head coaches, because you get changed head coaches, you get three. You get to have three camps. Yeah. It's going to be interesting. I think Lamar is going to show up. Just for the simple facts that, you know what, they're working on it. Eric DaCosta is like, look, me and Lamar had a great conversation over the years. We don't really talk about the contract. We just get it done. and we're going to keep that, you know, we're going to keep that thing. But I do think Lamar, I think Lamar is going to show up. They don't really do it. They don't do anything. And plus, I think it gives them a head start on learning the offense. It's a totally new offense. Me, I kind of like keeping the same coach because I like the same offense on Joe. So that way I didn't have to show up. Right. That's why, that was the only reason I liked the joke because I didn't want to show up. but look and look they're very motivated to get a deal done with Lamar Lamar's finna jump he's finna jump Josh Allen we know what Josh got Lamar's finna get that and some they ain't gonna play with him is it no no no no no no nope cause the faster you can get that done the better off things will be around he probably you know new system new coach you wanna get everybody acclimated And nothing gets you acclimated and make you want to show up, Ocho, like 300 million, huh? L-O. Hey. When $100 million hit your bank account, damn, y'all really wanted me to show up. I don't mind if I do. Hey. It's a different world. Yeah, hey. I'd have never thought. If somebody would have told me when Fringesley hit back in 93, that was the first year of it. Yeah. that the salary would get to where they – let me get the hell out of here. These guys are getting contracts for what these owners purchased teams for. I mean, you could buy a team. I mean, back in the 80s, you could buy a team for $60 million. Hey, but hold up. You remember in the NBA coming in as rookies, they used to didn't have no salary. I know. You used to could sign a $60, $70 million deal. Yeah. Big dog. What are the last ones to get that contract? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They had to put that salary cap on there real quick. Hold on, hold on before this thing get out of hand. Well, it used to be – oh, Joe, well, you know it used to be there was no salary cap on rookies. Sam Bradford was the highest-paid player, and he was a rookie. Yeah. Yeah, and we went to the Rams first, right? And then you know how they did it. They're like, no, you know what? We don't think that's right. We want to put a rookie cap, and that'll keep more bets. They put a rookie cap on the quarterbacks and then cut the vets. Right. Oh, boy. It's crazy business. But, no, I think Lamar's going to show up. I think he's going to be very motivated to show up when they give him that Josh Allen money. Oh, we. I'm telling. $250, $260 million guaranteed. $120, $130 at the time of signing. Yeah, I'm going to show up. I go to Steve, you know what? You and I have been working great together. Let's continue this relationship. Because Lamar's 29. Who just ain't Ocho in another four years, he can't get another contract? Yeah. Damn, he just 29 for real? Boy, he's young, boy. Yeah. Damn. And then, win the MVP, win a Super Bowl, see y'all in training camp. I see y'all for that mandatory one in June. I'm just telling you. I win MVP. We win the championship. I'll never do an OTAs again. I'll see you in June. An anonymous NFL GM says he's not remotely interested in Tyreek Hill, even at the vet minimum. We aren't touching him. No chance. We think he's done. He isn't a difference maker anymore. The juice isn't worth the squeeze. Not even as a vet minimum guy for us. What? Wow. Vet minimum is a million dollars. Coming out for ACL. How old is Tyree? Oh, he got ACL, MCL, a broken tibia. How old is he? 31. I think he's 31. Oh, he got some juice left. He got a whole lot of juice left. How old is he? He's 31. He'll be 32. He'll be 32 March 1st. Yeah. Is it March 1st? He's 31 right now. How old is he right now? Hey, Joe and Unc, when I hear owners say stuff like this, I would so love to know exactly where the source came from or who the owner actually is. It was the GM. It was the GM. Hey, GM in general, they're always anonymous. They're always anonymous. I would love to see what receivers he has on his squad. where he thinks even Tyreek Hill coming back off an injury ain't better than what we got out there right now. I think he would be, Ocho, if he wasn't coming off serious injuries. He's coming off a serious injury, and he's about to be 32 in three days. With that being said, at minimum, I think it's a steal. Now, I'm not going much above that, Ocho, given what he's coming back off of. What about what he looks like? After injury. Well, he did that in week four coming in that week and run. What do you have? He had he had we know he had a broken tibia. We know he had an ACL with any other ligaments where there are MCL with any meniscus damage LCL. Yeah, he said motivatorial ligaments. So we know the ACL. Okay, guys come back from the ACL. It's those small. And so did they repair it, Ocho? Did they give him a cadaver? Right, right, right. Did they take part of the patella? Because, you know, they take part of the patella tendon and they reattach it. So it's interesting to see what all he had done. They said multiple ligaments. Now, we know the ACL. We don't know if it's the MCL, the LCL. We don't know if it's any of those. But we assume. Now, we don't know which other ligaments corresponding to the ligaments it is. We also know he broke his leg, the fibula. So it's an uphill climb. But athletes, I mean, you know, we know how to rehab. We know how to get back. Yeah, big time. And if there's a will, if there's a way, he'll do it. But I do think for a million dollars, I mean, for that because that's the bad minimum mojo oh yeah for a million dollars i'm definitely doing it now i don't know if you'll go there for a million dollars but i'm saying no no no no absolutely not now i think he's gonna do he's gonna do it right uncle joe um depending on how he looks he'll be back over there with andy reed and mahomes and eric b enemy because he's familiar with the system they're gonna know how to use them um it'd be it'd be perfect it'd be perfect for him because he doesn't have to be the one to shoulder the burden you're gonna be alright it's just the thing is Ochoa man yeah if they ever get a chance to get you while you're down you best believe oh they coming oh they coming that's what I would advise the guys be as gracious as you possibly can I know sometimes it gets hard but yeah you always want to give them like you know what we like hey he never giving anybody any problem he's a great locker room guy he's competitive man when when you coming off an injury and there's like well you yeah thank you a problem in the locker room and you got a lot of stuff going on because they're looking for a reason though they just don't give them a reason always looking for a reason and if if there is no reason they're gonna create one it's like as a coach you once told us don't cut yourself let us do that that's a classic know where you're supposed to be do what you're supposed to do be on time but you make my job real easy when you don't know what you're supposed to do you're not where you're supposed to be and you're not on time you really make my job easy make it difficult on me thanks make it so I have to like damn I don't you know look I understand I think I think with a little you know with a little time this guy might turn into a pretty good player for us as opposed to like nah I can't do it so this is the biggest night in podcasting the countdown is on to our 2026 iHeart Podcast Awards. 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