Zooey Deschanel Loves to Snack

Wave. And then I'm like driving and I didn't have tinted windows because I didn't know like if you're on TV, you need tinted windows. I mean like being an indie actor, everyone that comes up to you is like, it's a different thing. It's a really cool. It's cool. Yeah, people are like, dude, I love your work. You know, it's like that. I bought this flavor because my kids love Oli Pop. And I like kids drink all the cream soda because I bought a bunch of flavors, but then they drank all of it. And so I never got to try it. And I really like it. It's very vanilla. One of the times that my mom and I got in the biggest fight of our entire life is when she, I had told her that I don't like diet Pepsi. Maybe I was like 12. And so she bought a bunch of diet Pepsi for herself to have when she got home from being a nurse. Yeah. And I, she had like one left one day and I drank it just because there was nothing else interesting to drink in the house. And I didn't even like it. I just drank it to have some new drink. And she got home and she had been counting on the diet Pepsi all day. And she was like through tears like, how could you? And I was like, you're being a crazy bitch right now. And she was like, I'm not like she was like, she was so, and she was right. She was mad at me. You know what's so funny is that you just jog my memory that like I remember in high school having like a really bad day and I opened my lunch and my mom had packed a bagel with jam on it. And I was like, what butter? I remember crying over it because I was like so tired and I'd had such a bad day already that the like jam was like the straw that broke the camel's back. And I was just like, did you kind of hurt or just that school? At school and my friends were like, I was like, you don't understand I love butter. And I just want butter and I just want butter today. And then I think it was like, you know, it's like the 90s and everyone thought that like jam was healthier than butter, which it's not. But I think I said like mom, like put jam on my bagel because it's fat free or something. Yeah. Because we were all obsessed with fat free. And then it was the thing. The thing. Yeah. That is so funny. Yeah. So anyway. You and I would be a little health. And we just we're wrapped in movie together. Yeah. The best movie. So much fun. I had the best time. I'm so glad. I miss you so much. Like I can't believe like I don't get to see you every day now. It's a weird withdrawal. Because we were spending like every minute together for weeks. And then you finished the movie and left. And then it's just like, we're not hanging out at all anymore. And then I was like, I was like hanging on to the fact that I was going to come here. Yeah. Okay. At least I get to see Caleb soon. Well, we said to keep playing. That's how you do it. I have to keep planning like, okay, in January. Yeah. We'll go somewhere. Okay. Good. Yeah. In February. Every month. We're going to go somewhere. Every month we're going to go somewhere to make it all work. Yeah. We, but we finished the movie and we were being we were being pretty good. We, I would say when we were at that church that was our base camp. We were walking on the outside track. Oh, yeah. We're getting our steps in. We're doing so good with our steps. We were doing good with our steps. We were doing so well with our steps. Yeah. Even I remember there was one day was so freaking cold. Yeah. And we still went out and walked on that track and my eyelashes were like icicle frozen. Yeah. It was real. I think that's why my skin like freaked out and had to wear aqua form my face for like three days. You said you were having a skin thing. Yeah. Yeah. It was just the wind. Yeah. That's Chicago wind. That's Chicago wind, baby. It's really famous. They don't call it windy city for nothing. Not for nothing. They call it that because of the wind. They call it that because of the wind. Which a lot of people don't know people don't know people are scared to say this. They're just they think it's just a clever name. Oh, guys, it's the wind. Yeah, it's the wind guys. I yeah, I was it was such a delight to get to do that with you. And I'm so excited. So fun. I can't wait for everyone to see it. I can't wait. It's called trash mound. It is called trash mound. It's based on your life. It is. And I we just actually I had we did an episode with Lily. Who you know was going to be and then. Epeed and she we didn't she and I didn't episode and I was expressing to her a little bit something that you and I kind of talked about on set where I was just like. I was this really interesting thing where like the movie is based on my life and I think I went through. But so much of it changed for the movie version. Yeah. There were these really conflicting like interesting times that like, you know, you would have to be doing a scene or something and I had a such a hard time because, you know, without giving anything away, there would just be things that like my character and the movie would say or do that I would never do in real life as me. Right. And I kept having these like challenges where I was like, oh, that's really hard. You know, I remember there were moments that that Gavin, your movie character had to be a little bit tough on my character, your sister. Yeah. And that's you're just the sweetest baby boy. And you never would ever do that. And you're like, I would never. Yeah. You're like, it's got to have some drama. Yeah, we have to have some drama. And it was such a, it was such a beautiful thing. We wrote this movie and we're like, who's going to play this role? It has to be someone so good. It has to be someone so down. And then you and I got lunch in LA. And I was like, a little, I was just nervous because you know that I'm a huge fan and I've been a huge fan for a long time. But I was like, I'm a huge fan of her work. I hope that she's cool. God, I hope we get along. And then we had like the most magic like three hour lunch. Yes, it was so fun. And you were what I remember that was so cute. I kept your voicemail because you, you sent me a voicemail because you were, you were trying out a dumb phone. Yeah. And. Hey, don't laugh that hard at that. Don't laugh that hard at that chance. It was a valid era that I went through. I was love. I mean, I was like, oh my god, I admire this. Then you couldn't figure out how to use the dumb phone. And it left me this like really long message. And it's like actually, and it was like transcribed. I was dying. It was so funny. It was me being like, I don't, Zoe, I don't know how to figure out a term. I'm sorry, I don't want to turn it off. I don't know how to press. And I don't know what, I don't know how to do this. And it's just, and then it was transcribing it. I think it won't react to any of over. And I was like, well, it won't let me in the voicemail. So another thing I was thinking about today, like I'm like, while I'm talking to you trying to figure out how to hang up the call on the dumb phone. Unbelievable. The dumb phone makes you maybe a little bit. Yeah. Less smart. Dumb. Dumbed me. God, the dumb phone era, I want, I could cry right now. I wanted it to work so bad. It ruined my life. I was treated like a leper. Zoe, people were ready to stone me in the streets. I mean, it was like, it was not working. People were, the community wasn't loving. The community was more than not loving. I was a, I hated and reviled figure in the community. And they started to message me other places. Like people refused to call the dumb phone. I was really ostracized. You're like walking past like a message board. Like it is somewhere on a Pilates studio. And you're like, wait, what? Someone left to know for me. Caleb, if you are reading this. I will say the final straw for the dumb phone was one of my friends got so mad at me because we had gone, we had gone out to his show. And then I was like, hey, we're going to go to this bar afterwards, but I wouldn't let anyone bring their smartphones with them in my group. And so the only person who had a phone was me who had the dumb phone. Oh no. And then you couldn't find it. And then no, no, no. And then I was like, we found the, and then I was like, but if you don't get to the place before we go to the next place, I'll leave a note with the bartender that says where we're going next. Yeah. And then he came to that bar too late. And then he had to get the note from the bartender. And then he had to meet us at the next bar. I thought this whole thing was pretty quaint and cool. Right. People were pissed off. That you went back to like an era like even before, like I'm like back, there was like a time when we had like, paiders and stuff, but like you had a pager. You didn't have to get a note from a bartender. I'm like, you're taking it like way back. Yeah. I took it back in a way that people were not appreciating. People like, no. And you had to tell you something. Oh, yes. Three weeks of bliss. Yes. I've never been happier. I can't tell you what we're missing out on. No, it's great. I think the thing is is if you have a smartphone and you just pick the apps that don't write your brain. Yeah. You like have a map. You just like have your, you know, be able to text people or whatever. Yeah. You're good at phone. I will say you're good at phone. Thank you. You're responsive when you need to be, but I don't, I feel that when we hang out, you're very present. Yeah. I put my phone away a lot of times. I put it away so I don't even, I'm not even looking at it or thinking about it. I don't even see you on phone unless you're pulling up pictures of the kids. Oh. That's it. You're like, you have to see this picture of the kids and I'm like, I do. Well, especially on set, like I try to stay really focused and so then phone gets put away, you know. Yeah. And then the treat is like a New York Times puzzle, you know? Yeah. That's what's bad about me on phone. I mean, there's so many things, but one of them is that the only time I ever do my puzzles in games is when I've run out of everything else to do on phone. Right. It's like two in the morning and I have nothing left to do on phone. And I'm like, oh, I could play Wordal for the first time in 17 days. I've been really good at Wordal lately though. Yeah. Second word multiple days in a row. Ooh, that's big. Yeah. Second word is like, it's pretty low percentage of my wordles. Were you living? You're in the third, fourth word, fifth? Third and fourth is my main. Yeah. But I have, you know, I have a number of, maybe I have like 12 to second words. Yeah. Yeah. But wordles not my best game. What's your best game? My best game is the one where you like cross the letters and you make words. Wow. You know that little box? Yes. Letter box. Yes. I don't know why I'm like, I love it and I'm sort of good at that one. Yeah. It's where you have to have the center of what are asking me in all of the words. Yeah. Yeah, you have to make, yeah, you have to cross out every letter. And then you can't like use letter, you can't like make a word with this like on the one row. Yeah. You can't put two in a row. They have to cross the box. Yeah. I was in eighth grade or ninth grade, I tried to get into Sudoku. Yeah. And I entered a period of depression based on it. I mean, I'm there. Like I don't like number games. I like letter like word games. Yeah. I love Scrabble, but like no, no Sudoku. You know, I haven't played Scrabble yet. We need to Scrabble. I love to Scrabble. I made it. I had a guy that I had been seeing come over to my house recently and I was like, do you want to come over and play Scrabble? Yeah. He was a cast on Scrape and he got over and he was being very like touchy. Like we weren't going to play Scrabble. And you're like, I was like, we're all have sex, but we're going to play this game of Scrabble. And then I played a very intense game of Scrabble with him and destroyed him. And then the mood, I will say the mood was a little killed. Yeah. You can't be too intense about Scrabble. But I think he has to recognize and represent. He has to show up ready for Scrabble. Yeah. And recognize the Scrabble is king. If I say come over for Scrabble, well, I think I pushed it because then after Scrabble, I did try to play Uno. And he's like, oh, Scrabble. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was Uno. When I pulled out Uno after Scrabble, he was like, hey man. And I was like, I'm done. I'm done. I was like, you're right. We should hook up. Yeah. Yeah. You gave up the Uno? I was like, no, no, no, no. But also, I'm not into Uno. You wouldn't play Uno with me? I, of course I play Uno with you. Okay. Thank you. I just don't really want to play it in general. But. Yeah. I like. I just sort of appease you. I would play Uno with you. But. I like Monopoly deal. And now I don't know this. Will you explain it to me? Let's do it. So Monopoly deal is very much like Monopoly. Only you can play it a lot faster than a game in a Monopoly like last a full day. Yeah. Like if you play the board game, but if you play Monopoly deal, you can cycle through it faster. And it's very similar to the game, but you play it with cards and it's super fun. You can take it on vacation. Yeah. Yeah. If you like Monopoly, you'll like, you'll love Monopoly deal. Maybe to hit you up. Yeah. One of the first times I realized that I was capable of being drunk with power was when I was assigned, I got to play the banker. Oh, oh, yeah. You know, I really was like, I'm a could be a bad person. If I didn't keep this thing in check, you know, because I really liked the way I felt. Yeah. I like the way I feel is better too. I did. And in a way that I was like, I liked it. I liked hurting. I liked hurting. I mean, I liked I was like, that property is, you know, you can't have it anymore. No. I'm taking that back. I go, that's mine now. Yeah. And you'll go to jail. Yeah. And you will not collect $200. And I liked that. Do not pass go. You can't. I'm sorry. No, pass go. It's not personal. Maybe it's business. Listen, yeah, exactly it's business, baby. Okay, wait, I have a question for you. Okay, tell me everything. You, okay, you have made so many indie movies in your. So many indie movies. You're kind of the indie movie queen. I see. Yeah, I mean, yeah. And what is, so when you started like auditioning and stuff, you were telling you a little bit about like how they were sending you out and how that was going. How were your first like auditions and booking movies going? Like how did you? So when I first started, I'm not sure. I can't remember exactly what we talked about. And if there was something like funny, I said about it. But that when I first started, I was like 16 years old and I was like horrible at auditioning like absolutely awful at it. But I did it. I'd cry after like every single one. And then there were, that was the time they were like making a ton of teen movies. So they like basically, if you were a 16 year old, they were like, we'll sign you. It was a good opportunity. But problems that won I wasn't good at auditioning and two, I didn't fit into like any archetype of teen because they were like, she's, I remember hearing this casting director like on the phone talking about me. And she's like, no, no, she's not, she's not like your typical babe. Because I guess that two is coming in. She goes, she's like weird. And I was like, is this a compliment? Should I have heard that? Should I have heard that? Like I'm weird? That's good, right? That's so fucking funny. So yeah, so bad at it. So I got better. But took a very long time. Yeah. Took like a year of auditioning to like be like, I got this. auditioning is those such a randomly different skill than working. Like it totally is. And that's why I have, I also have a hard time like understanding why now. I mean, now I have like enough of a career that's not something I'm having to do all the time. But I do think it's strange that they cast a lot of stuff off of video now. And it's like like self tape type situations. And I just think you have to be in a room to see if somebody can take direction. And that's the most important thing for an actor to be able to do is to be able to adjust in the moment, like, you know, in a kind of nerve-racking situation. And that you're like, you have like skills on the day, you know? Yeah. And that you're like a, the energy, I don't know, the energy is just different. It totally is. Yeah. People can come across so well on screen. And then you meet them and you're like, whoa. Oh, what do you think? What do you think? What you're like? Yeah. It can be like that. I think that's what's so interesting about the moment we're in now, where so many people's careers are entirely screen mediated. Yes. Then you meet some of these people and it's no T no shade unless deserved. But like some of these people that have such a perfectly curated screen meeting presence, you meet in person or you get around them on a job or something. And you're like, whoa, the vibe is crazy different. Yeah. And the screen mediation, there's something so like lost or added. Like it's just a difference maker. It is. And when you're making a film, you're like, you have to curate the whole set vibe. And that ends up coming across. And if you're just seeing like this and it's just the person and they've been very controlling about how what they show, then you're going to see those other bits that maybe aren't additive to your project. You know? You kind of want to see the whole thing. You do. I was wondering the other day actually I'm wanting to ask you. Like I'm only capable obviously at this point of seeing almost famous as like this huge movie. Like this big, you know, but when you got that role, did it feel like a huge get? That was a huge get. Okay. Yeah. That was a huge get because I mean, Cameron Crowe's like a legend. Yeah. And it was like his store. I mean, you know what's funny? Look, I got to play Cameron Crowe's sister and I got to play your sister. Equal opportunities. Oh my gosh. No, both unbelievable. Like no, so that it was such a everyone wanted to be in that movie. And it was like the unt, they called it the untiedled Cameron Crowe project. And honestly, like it was so crazy because I was a college student. I'd done one movie and an episode of TV. I mean, I'd been around like auditioning as you know in high school, but I'd only booked a few jobs and I'd booked this wonderful little movie with Lawrence Kazin. Before I went off to college and I was like, I'm going to theater school. And during my winter and spring breaks, my agents and managers sent me out on some auditions. And I auditioned for that because everybody did, but I didn't think there was like any way I would get anything in it. But I went back a couple times. I didn't meet him, but I met the casting directors and they had, I was on tape. I guess what happened was Sarah Polly was supposed to play Kate Hudson's part. Kate Hudson was supposed to play my part. And then kind of last minute, Sarah Polly couldn't do the movie anymore. Kate Hudson got moved up to Penny Lane. And then they had this part and they had to find someone fast. And so I guess they went through all the tapes of people that had come in and Cameron saw me and was like, oh, she looks right. It seems right. And so I luckily I kind of got to skip a lot of the process, I think, because I was like at college and then I came back on spring break and they were like, Cameron Crowe wants to meet you like himself. And so I went in and they just like cast me because they like need someone fast. But I think he makes, I mean, I think he has people coming and read a bunch of, he really likes to work a lot with people and do a lot like really make sure that I was right, which respect for that. But then I didn't have to do like a million reads, which was great for me. But I had an amazing work session with him. And yes, it was a huge deal. It was like, this was the, that was the movie that everybody wanted to do. Yeah. And then you did it. And then I did it. And then how did things kind of transpire after that? Like what, what, what happened after that? So I quit college to do that movie and then I got no work for like a full 14 months. Absolutely iconic. And then I was just sitting around watching movies all day. So I go to the New Beverly and the New Art and all the like revival house theaters that I'd watch double features for $7. And just fill my days with like watching like old movies. And so that was kind of like an education, I guess in itself. Luckily I had like a group of friends at the time that was also very into doing that. So yeah, I'd go see like rock shows and I would go to the theater to see movies for 14 months. For 14 months. It was like film school. Do you remember the first thing that you got after that little spell of kind of just like working at it and waiting around? Really yes, because I got cut out of this movie. Because I only had one scene and I understand why but I was a little bit like what, but it was great because it broke the spell. It was a Michelle Gondry movie called human nature. You made it like before all his really it wasn't didn't it wasn't a super famous movie, but it was Patricia Arquette and I got to I got to she was she was having a flashback where she's like in college and she's supposed to be like like like her eight or something in the movie. I'm trying to remember. And I'm supposed to be her college roommate in a flashback, but they cut it out. So but anyway that footage is somewhere. I will be finding it. You'll find it. I'll be getting a little bit of a little letter Michelle Gondry. Yeah, please. Yeah. One of the biggest arguments that my mom got in mom and I got into outside of the night Pepsi argument was it I booked like one of my first one of my very first TV roles when I was like doing stand up in Chicago was on Fargo. And it was a big break for me. It was a big deal. And it was like a pretty actually a pretty good row. I played like a 1950s like redneck gas station owner was like very simple and like I it was an interesting like far from self role that I got to like actually like create and work on. And I was like a 1950s gas station owner. One of those things that I'm never saying which. But I yeah, it was like a fun thing to actually get to develop a character and I had told my mom about it. And then she like after I booked it and then she posted about it on Facebook. She was like she was like my son's going to be and I was like mom. I was like I can get cut out of that. You're going to jinx me like I'm like I'm supposed to say anything. Yeah. And she was like I don't know how to delete it. And I was like girl like and so I had to like talk her through deleting it on the phone and I was so mad at her. It was really sweet. But yeah, because my I still am very superstitious about me too. I'm so superstitious. I'd be like, ah, like yeah, I'm like I don't want to brag. And then especially if you have like one scene, it's just so easy to just snip snip it out to see later. That thing is to that movie is too long. If you're not pivotal, that's why like one thing about almost famous that I was like so happy about is my character so pivotal. Even though I only had like three or four scenes like they couldn't come. Yeah. Yeah. So you did you did that you did that movie after the yeah. And then I'm trying to think what I did. And then I had like a okay, let's see. I did like a ton of little indies like right in a row. I think I did I did that that broke the spell. And then I did like I know I did this little movie called Manic with Joe Gordon Levin and Don Chino. That was a tiny movie, but it was a fun to shoot. And then all the real girls, which is one of my favorite movies I ever got to do. Yeah, it was like a bunch of indie movie. Then I was just like just like doing Sundance movies like back to back after that. There's a big Sundance era for you. Sundance era like lasted like 10 years. Yeah. How well, I mean, how did you feel at the time? Like where you I think I guess my question is like in the moment that you were in your Sundance era, what do you like? This is the fucking best is exactly what I want. I had always like said I wanted to do like art films. That was like, well, that was like my goal. And I was like, I'm doing it. So I felt really good about it. I loved that era. The only thing is that with like little tiny indies, you have to like work so much to just like pay rent, you know, like you just have to like basically do like five movies a year. Which was fine because I was like in my 20s. And yeah, I mean, it was great. I loved doing I love doing indie movies like it's probably my favorite thing to do in terms of passion. Like nothing's better. I also just like I like the feeling that we're like all filmmakers and we're all involved like deeply on this level of like getting it done. I think there's this thing, the bigger the budget, the more separated you get from like as an actor, they're like, go wait in your trailer. And like, we'll come get you. And then you're kind of you kind of feel more separated from that sort of filmmaking process. And I just I love being in it. Like I'm I'm very like hands on. I love it. Yeah, you really do. I mean, like I do a lot of people say stuff like that. Right. And then their actions kind of don't bear it out. Right. And I you told me that when we met the first time, you were like, I love this shit. Like I love making films. I love Indies. And I was like, I was like, I really hope that's true because that's what this movie would be. And then being on set with you, I was like, God, she really does love it. Like, I love it. Standing in for yourself and like, like, like so just like, yeah, you really do love it. I have to say I was very inspired and surprised. I love it so much. And I also I just love the like, I just I like the like grittiness of doing an indie movie. And I also just like love like, like getting to do character driven things that maybe are not exactly what a big studio would feel comfortable making like things that are off the beaten path and a little bit more, you know, like maybe a little more emotional than they might want. Maybe a little bit like different in and I feel like those are the really special things. And so for me, it's just a treat to get to do it. I love it. Yeah. Well, you're so great at it. It's a gift to us when you do it. Oh, you're so sweet. I'm working with you as a treat. You know, I'm shy. I do want to ask a question that we absolutely can cut if you're like, I don't really want to talk about that. But you said something really, really interesting to me about when you decided to do New Girl. Yeah. And when you went and signed on to that project. Yeah. And then you had that moment of realization where you were driving in the car and you saw the like, can you do you want to talk a little bit about like that? Sure. And like deciding to do TV. Yes. I was surprised by it and didn't really know is that like I really had fallen in love with your work in films. Yeah. And then like, I guess there was a weird thing about going and doing TV. Yeah. It was at the time. They're like film actors and TV actors and they you don't mix. And it's like TV was sort of seen as this just like other whole thing. And it was this line that not a lot of people crossed. It was like you were not going to do TV if you were a movie actor and it was like I was a movie actor and then there are TV actors and it was kind of like so limiting. And I just feel like whenever you see like those weird prejudices like that, you have to go like red flag and then opportunity because frankly that script was so amazing. The new girl script was so amazing. I was like, if this were a movie, everyone would want to do it. It would be like everyone. It was because it was TV. It didn't have the kind of probably didn't have as much, you know, like people who were wanting to do TV wanted to do it. But it was like, it was just didn't have as many people maybe interested in it. But it's like was such an amazing script. And I felt like, well, here's where we make the decision to go where the material is and not think about like, oh, I'm a this. So I'm not going to do that. And also it was a it was a pretty, I mean, there's it seems like there's always transformative. Like every few years, there's a big transformation in the entertainment industry. Like things change and and like it just change. You have to be ready to pivot and and do things that were was do things that are different from how you used to do them. So for me, that was doing television because they had actually, so when I first started, there were tons of indie movies being made all the time. And then and that's how I that was my bread and butter. And then all the like studios that had like wings that made independent, like kind of independent type films. Like they cut a lot of the sleep. So all of a sudden it was like they might have had 80 and then they went to eight. And it was like just a bunch of superhero movies. And I was like, well, that's kind of not my thing. And not that I couldn't do superhero movie. Marvel, if you would like to call me, I'm accepting. We're taking calls. We're taking calls. But it just was like a lot of the stuff I had been doing was kind of drying up. And I was like, do I just do music? Because I was doing tons of music at the time. And that's kind of what I was thinking I was going to do. And then I got that script and I was like, you know, this is so freaking funny. I, and I was like, it's also now everyone's like, oh, you are just. But I'm like, no, that's nothing like any of the parts that I ever did before. And I was so excited to have the opportunity to play something really different and get like into it. Because I was like, this is my wheelhouse, but nobody knows it. So I was really excited. What made you fall in love with the script? I mean, I know you said it was funny and that it was a new challenge for you. But was there, do you remember anything about it that like really settled apart at the time from other things you were reading? The, the tone of the dialogue was just so unique. And Liz Maryweather, who wrote it is unbelievably talented. She's gone on to do a ton of incredible stuff. But yes, just the way she wrote dialogue was just so great. And I love the characters that she created, you know? Yeah. And I was like, ooh, I love reading scripts that go that when I read them, I go, ah, I can't wait to say that. You know, I can't wait to say that. Yeah. Not, oh, can we do it this way? You know, like, it's just so fun to be able to have that feeling where there's like lines or like, oh, I can't wait. Yeah, that is that. Yeah, that's the best. Like your script. Well, thank you. That's very nice. Ruby, Ruby, a castor who co-wrote it with me. She was just a dream to work with. I think you want to say something. You guys are a dream. I love you both so much. It was a blast. Okay, but so the, I just, I'm so interested in it because I feel like the experience that you had with that show was such a, a rarefied, like, crazy, but there's a very small percentage of people in the world who will go through something like that. Right. And you were talking, what we were talking about. Okay, I know what you were asking me. This moment, what you were like, what the hell? I was like, I had the show had just like gone on the air and it was big when it came out. And I remember driving down Highland, which is like a huge tree in LA, like right near the Hollywood Bowl, on my way to work, rush hour. And I looked up to my left and I literally was surprised because I, you don't know what the marketing department's going to do. They just like, they'll do big, you know, they'll do, they'll go big sometimes. And I looked to my left and there was a full building with a picture of me, my face, a full building. And it said, it said, simply adorable. And it said, like, so edition, I was like, I was like, this is all at once like my night mirror and my dream, all the things. And then I'm like driving and I didn't have tinted windows because I didn't know like if you're on TV, you need tinted windows. I mean, like being an indie actor, everyone that comes up to you is like, it's a different thing. It's a really cool. It's cool. It's different. Yeah. Dude, I love your work. You know, it's like that. I loved you in that thing. Whatever. 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Seff has repaired to smoothness nourishment with regimen use versus non-conditioning shampoo. It was kind of a crazy time just because it was like, oh, whoa, this is what it feels like. And sometimes it's a big shock to the system, to all the sudden, have a different level of people knowing you who you don't know, you know? And then, yeah, you got to learn to be chill with it. Yeah, I feel like, yeah. Because sometimes your heart really, you know? Yeah, and yeah, it can be very isolating. I feel like you have to find a way to still live in the world and figure out how you navigate that thing. But then, yeah, you were on this massive hit show for a long time, nine seasons. Seven. Seven, but nine, was it nine years? Or did I just make nine of them ahead? Eight years, yeah, eight years. So I made it up in my head. You know what I felt like nine? Yeah, yeah, thank you. Hey, that means the world to me. Thank you. But yes, seven seasons, eight years. And how did it, like, when it was coming to an end, how did it feel transitioning out of that? Do you remember like the big feelings of it? It was really hard. The hardest part was that those other actors, I were like my family. And I saw them every day, like more than a lot of my family members, you know? And I just miss them. And that's really hard. It's really weird. And then everybody lives all over the city. And you know, you don't necessarily get to see them very often. Or you know, it's like, unless you go have lunch or whatever. But you know how in LA, if one person lives in the valley, and one person lives on the west side, one person lives in Highland Park, like nobody's going to see each other very often, unless you make a really concerted effort. Yeah. So yeah, I just miss, I miss my buddies. And I miss that camaraderie. And I loved getting to make something every week that was like, wow, we made like a whole episode of TV in five days. That was like incredible. So that was crazy. Yeah. And I was, I loved that. I like being in the trenches like that. And it's like the way I feel about making indie movies. Like I love TV and like how fast it goes. And I love indie movies and how fast it goes. I have a hard time when it's like, glacially slow filmmaking process that I'm like, that's a little, that's actually a little tougher for me. Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting doing the like, I mean, I came from like a indie comedy where we did everything quick and cheap and immediately. And the first time I did something big where it was like, we're shooting two pages today. How was it like, what the fuck are you talking? I was like, we have so much time. This is insane. It just feels crazy that you're like, oh, wow, y'all are really moving on this. Two pages before like 8 a.m. Yeah, it's just crazy. And what are we doing next? Yeah, what's the rest of the day? Yeah. Yeah, that's interesting. So what chapter do you feel like you're in now? I mean, I know you have the Kale of Haren. By the way, supporting Kale of Haren. I have a chapter. Yeah, I mean, I'm just like getting back to all the stuff that I've always loved doing. I mean, I have two kids who met. I love them. Elsie and Charlie. They love you. They're absolute icons. Charlie does not like Sorbet. Does not like Sorbet. And also when I met your kids, I couldn't tell if they were just, I met them for the first time. I mean, I'd heard so much about them. I was like, I think I came on a little too strong. I like wanted to be their friend so bad. And then I met them like fresh off the plane. They were just a little tired. I was like, you guys and they were like, hey, like. No, they'd like wait to show their personalities. So there were like very polite usually too. So they'll be like, hello. Nice to meet you. Yeah. And I was so stoked when we ran into you guys in the hallway. And their personalities came out and I was like, yes, you could see their little silly personalities. Well, we were at a disadvantage because they didn't know anything about me, but I already knew so much about them. Right. Because you and I had talked so much about them. Right, of course. And I was like, what's up guys? How are we like I was like truly ready to like lock in. And they were like, get this man. No, no, they're just they're like they like just have they always they withhold the personality a little bit. And then they want to like burst it on you. Yeah, they're so cute. But yeah, they were like little. And so like when the show ended, they were like so small. And so I kind of was just taking not as many jobs just because I had you know, you know, one thing with them. But now I'm like stoked because it was like, we had so much fun making our film. And I love I love making, you know, movies that I feel passionate about, you know, like where I feel passionate about the material. And, you know, I just, yeah, I just I love making movies. So I'm stoked to do that. And you're in New York right now doing a bunch of this stuff talking about. Yes, I have a really cute movie coming out called Merve. And it's it's a romcom. But it has like, it's a romcom. But it's like my favorite romcoms where they have like some serious elements too. Like it's it has these like moments that really ground it because it has it's not just like silly. But it has a lot of silliness too. But it's about a couple who breaks up and they share a dog. And then the dog is depressed. So they have to cheer him up and take him to Dog Beach in Florida, a dog beach in Florida. And maybe they were you know, who's to say, but the dog is named Merve. And the dog is so cute. He's a very good actor. Happy ending for the dog. Can we say her now? Happy ending for the dog. The dog. Nothing happens to the dog. I just want to know this. I just want you to know this not like a dog dies movie. This is a dog is a live movie. This movie, one of the big things about it is there's a dog that's alive. One of the big things about it is the dog is so alive and the whole time and there's nothing about the dog has a very long life that like continues on after. Never stops being a dog for one minute. And the dog is only even six years old right now and he has like so much life left. One thing about this movie is the dog has lived and will continue to live. Yes, he's like not even in his quarter life crisis. He's chilling. He's chilling. Yeah, he's got so much to do. He's such a sweet baby. Yeah, and he's working. He's got job. He's got gigs. Yeah, he's got gigs. He's working actor. He's an actor and he loves sausages. That's what that's how you pay him. Really? Same by the way. Yeah, exactly. So one of the things that we would laugh so much on set about is that the dog he'd be like we have to pay him. And how they pay him is in like chicken pieces or sausages on a like little antenna. You know what? Yeah. I'm starting to look at some of my contracts a little sideways right now because I'm like I need someone to come over and give me some chicken every time I'm out. You just go up. Ah, please. Someone flies in a chicken on an antenna. Yeah, it sounds nice. Sounds really nice. Yeah, so he's he's living the good life. Yeah, and he eats like healthy treats because you know. He's a working actor. He's a working actor. He can't just eat only sausages, but he loves those sausages. This legitimately was a point of growth for me when I started acting was I first I went pretty crazy at crafty. Yeah, I would upset my Tommy bad. Yeah, hey, so you're actually a grown up and you're at work. Well, I think I'd be like no more candy for breakfast. Like it was a real problem. Well, they they set some sets they put out a great spread. Yeah. The thing is is what you have to do is like if you have a crack like it was funny because on New Girl, we had this like this it was like what do you call it was like a trail mix. They would put out in the first year we were all like I think it was like Kirkland Signature or something. We were all like oh my god, this trail mix is so good. We eat it. It had M&M's in it and everyone was like addicted to the trail mix, but then they put the same trail mix out like you know the same brand same kind every day for like seven years. And then by the end I was like I could look at that trail mix and even though it's like amazing trail mix. It's like you see it enough times you're like. Ridge. I don't want it. Get it out of here. I just was like well, I just was like I can't believe I became immune to this incredible trail mix. Yeah. I felt like really good about that. Like it's just immune. That's a beautiful skill. I could just look at those M&M's and just be like whatever. You mean nothing to me. You mean nothing to me. I wouldn't need a hand for you. I was weak. Season one for the M&M trail mix. But not anymore. Not anymore baby get that shit out of here. It doesn't mean anything to me. Raisin's. I'm gonna take a hint with that right now. I would never do that. No, I would never. That's not in my character. But it was like if they changed it up and put like a new snack here. Forget it. I love a snackie. I do love a you love a snackie. Yeah, you know about my snack drawers, right? I do know about your snack drawers. I told you about it. Yeah, your snack drawers iconic. But also I will say most of the time you're taking down like baby carrots dipped in cottage cheese. That's true. That's my big snack. That's my big snack. That's your big snack. Everybody needs to know it's a good snack. It is but it's sometimes hard to snack with you because I'll be wanting like a snickers and then all of a sudden it's like you're doing one of the most healthy things I've ever seen. If you put ranch powder on it. Come on. I know what it is. It is good. It's really good. Yeah. No, that's like a healthy snack. But yeah, I like a snack. I love a snicker. I like the really many, many snickers. You saw me taking down some minutes. I was like one of the coolest things that happened to us on our movie was that me, you and Kyle, do you remember the moment we all discovered how important coffee was to us? Yes. That we were all like we need to buy a real espresso machine to have on this tiny indie set for four weeks. For four weeks. Well, I was really like I was like I don't want to say anything snappy right now. Yeah. But I don't I just I want good coffee on this thing. Yeah. And it was nice that you guys felt the same. Yeah. Well, and then I said actually it's more important to me than food. Like, and then Kyle was like I buy a legitimate espresso machine on every film I'm on. Yeah. And then give it to the camera department. I was like we all understand each other. Good. We I'm glad we understand what needs to happen. Yes, we need. We need what we need. But we we were pulling shots at lunch and I was I was not alcohol shots, but espresso shots. By the way, and I was making them for a lot of people. There was one there was one lunch. What I remember I was like late to go back for a hair make up because I was making so many espresso shots. It's always not ready. She was making coffee for everybody. I was making coffee for everybody. She was pulling shots for the crew. She's at her barista job right now. She'll clock him when she can. But I felt good about it. Everyone said that it was good. The coffee I made. One of my favorite things about you many to choose from is your love for karaoke. We tore some karaoke up on the street. We sure did. And when you showed up, I could tell you were tired. Yeah. You were like thank you for saying that. You were like not maybe 100% wanting to be there. Yeah. And then you get up and saying man, I feel like a woman by tonight. I mean, and I was like do I love this person? I love it. How much do I love this person? I want you to know that you're 100% right that when we were in the car, Michelle can vouch. When we were in the car, I said 33 minutes. We will step into that party for 33 minutes. And then it was a lot longer than that. I was there for hours. I started taking shots. I don't even really drink like that. Like something came over me. They're like jello shots being passed around. Or was that cooler blue? Like, yeah, it looked like something that was like that was used to like market teenage mutant Ninja Turtles. Do something. I got sick. Look off that. I had so many shots because basically what happened was there was this girl at the bar who kept sending shots around to everyone. Yeah. And I was like, you're not going to outdo me. I'm going to buy shots. And so then I started buying shots. All of a sudden, I've done 20 shots. Yeah. I was deep in it. I did man, I feel like a woman. And then I kind of slurred my way through. Lucky. Lucky by Britney Spears. That was like honey. How was a moment? I'm not going to lie. That was a great moment. Yeah, you did a great song that I can't remember the name of. It was like a funky. Oh, was it tell me something good? Yes. By yeah, Chalka Khan, it's a Griffiths. Yeah. God, you murdered that. Thank you. That was real. And that was it. See, but that's what I wrote that song. I wrote that song. You. I wrote that song. Also, Stevie Wonder wrote that. I thought you said you wrote that song. And I was like, I did write that song. Stevie Wonder wrote that. Yep. Oh, I didn't know that. And when you listen to it, you'll be like, oh hell yeah, he did. It's. It's like, see if you wonder a song. Yeah. You killed that. And that's the kind of karaoke knowledge that you bring. That's not a song that I think almost anyone else would pick, but you. Oh, thank you. That's that. That's a good karaoke song. Thank you. It's a good, it's a great song. Yeah. It's a good one in general, but you really murdered that. Thank you. We were on our karaoke in a big way. I love karaoke. And we have karaoke at our house. Like we do karaoke. Just casually and the kids love it. So fun. What are what are what are their go-to songs? Do you know, LC likes to sing like Adele? Yeah, and Charlie likes to sing like the Ghostbusters theme. Team. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. LC's also like, give me the mic. She'll be like, I'm not going to sing it. She'll be like, give me the mic. She's me. I'm like, oh, whoa, whoa. Okay. And then it's like, and then my sister later, we were doing karaoke with my sister was my sister's birthday. And then my sister was like singing along with LC. And then Emily's like, I'm not sure. LC liked that I was singing along with her. She's like, I think she wants to sing Adele by herself. Oh. One of the most foundational karaoke memories I have is that I was staying at my friend's house. I was maybe like 10. And I was known to get down on karaoke. And I was staying at my friend's house. I was asleep. It was like three in the morning. And I was, this is a friend that I was very, very close with her family and our parents were very close. So I knew her mom like extremely well. Like basically another parent of mine. Her mom came home drunk from the bars with a bunch of our other, like my mom and a bunch of their friends. And woke me up from my slumber. And it was like, you have to come downstairs and do karaoke with me right now. And it was just me and her in the living room. Do you and karaoke together? Um, maize. Everyone else was asleep. It was just the two of us that she's so drunk. And I'm just, I'm like barely awake standing there 10 years old. And we did, um, would you still call me Superman? That's all. Yeah, Kryptonite. Kryptonite, she picked it. And we did Kryptonite. And then after we finished it, how do we finish it the first time she was like one more time. And then we did it. Same song again. Same song. And then we did it two more times. So we did Kryptonite three times in a row. And then I was like, can I go to bed and she was like, yeah, I get out of here. Oh my god. And then as I was going to bed, I heard her do Kryptonite whole night. That is so funny. Weina. It reminds me that when I was in college, I went to North Western. Somehow I got invited to this overnight formal, like with a fraternity, with a guy I didn't know at all. And that's me for disaster, but not the disaster you think. But hold on. Hold on. This guy got so wasted. And, um, requested the song, come on, I lean like 40 times. And the DJ kept playing it for him. Hell yes. He was so rude. Yeah, it was just crazy, but I kept like the, come on, I lean coming on like 1000. I was like, are you freaking kidding me? Why is the DJ like, I have a crush on the suit or something? And you know what? That's some shit I would do. And I like that song, but like not that many times. It's too much. It's too many times. One time. One time is enough. Maybe one time big gap in the night, second time later. Yeah, like what everybody's cleared out. The DJ at my birthday party last year, I throw a costume party for my birthday. Oh my god. Like every year. Yeah, coming up again. Wait, you know, you're invited. I gave you the information. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm off to come. I'm going to remind you of the information. Well, you have the venue information. You just have the date, but I'm going to give you the rest of the day. Okay. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The DJ last year, there was a moment where the DJ played a, um, I hope you dance by Lee and Wilmac like club mashup. It was like, I hope you do. And it was like, I literally, I've never seen a room line up like that. Oh my god. And I was grinding on these two lesbians that were dressed as the blue man group. And I just, I remember in that moment being like, life is so special. You're like, I've never been happier. I've never been happier. I, that made me think of that. My, one of my happiest moments was at, um, you know, that place, Marines Crisis. It's like, I love show tunes. So I was like singing along to like, laym is. And then like, for some reason, my, I love my parents so much. And for some reason, they were like, we're in New York. Where are you? And I was like, in Marie's crisis. And then they walked in and started singing laym is with us. I was like, this is it. Beautiful. This is it. Imagine something better than that. It was like, one day more. What another day, another destiny. Me not knowing the song. Me not knowing the song. Sorry to all involved. Sorry to all involved. It's okay. I know. I did get one of my first, I came, I did an internship in New York when I was in college. And I had this internship where it was, I worked with international high school students. Yeah. And we, if we plan, don't brag. And if we plan to trips for them, the school, the company we worked for would pay for our part of it. So like, if we plan to take them to a Broadway show and we could explain why there's a cultural immersion for them, they would pay for our ticket. So I, but you had to get only one trip a week of the same thing could be planned. So I gave them the system and as soon as the portal opened every week to plan trips at midnight, I would go in and plan all the best, most expensive stuff for my kids so that my shake up paid for. Yes. And I put, I pray, my kids want to go to laym is and I'd never been to a Broadway show. So I was like, I'll take you guys to laym is, I've never been to Broadway. And so I took them to laym is and we sat all the way in the back on the back wall, like up in the very top. It was so uncomfortable, but I just was like, and I had all my international kids with me. And most, all of them spoke English, but like for a lot of them, it was their second language, or it was just, you know, it was a varying degrees of like what kind of English they spoke. And so it was a lot of like communicating like the military when we were on the train and so I'd be like, stop, you know, it was like very like, I'd be like, this, I'd use a lot of gestures. And I remember there was a really sad part of the show and I was crying. And one of my students was crying and she turned around to me and she went to like tell me that she was crying. And I was like, no, I can see, you know, I was like, I can see you. You're crying. It was very beautiful. I took my, we took our kids and then like my daughters like best friend and then her mom is one of my best friends. And also she loves laym is and I grew up like loving laym is. And so we watched, we all went when it was like touring again and came to LA. And we were crying the entire show. Yeah. Yeah. It's great. It's great. That's so sweet. So I have a question for you. Yeah. What's so true to you? What's so true to you right now? It's so true to me. That I'm so happy. I love that so true. I love that. Do you think to every, like, okay, tell me what you mean? Like you're so happy. I'm so happy. I'm like happy to be here with you. Like I'm happy to be in New York. There's like, it's like the holiday season. Yeah. My house is decorated with like sparkly lights and all kinds of things. And I'm going to have holiday fun stuff and soon and I love Christmas. And we've got a little movie coming out. I mean, this awesome movie with you. I mean, everything's just fun. I feel pretty good. Yeah. I feel pretty good. It's nice to be happy. I'm happy. What kind of tree vibe are you guys doing? Ooh, we have, we have multiple trees. Of course, but do you have like a, like, okay, your big tree. Yeah. What is the vibe of the vibe? The vibe was like 1960s tree with like really colorful bulbs that feel, like yeah, only described it like 1960s like a little psychedelic. Yeah. Like maybe, yeah, a little psychedelic. This really tracks because one of my favorite things about you, you know, is that you used to, you know that one of my favorite things about you is that you used to DJ in LA on the East Side and you would only play 60s girl groups. Yeah. Yeah, that's my favorite. I wish I could be there so bad. Yeah, you know what's funny is that so some of the gigs we would play only 60s girl groups. And then some of them I'd open it up a bit and play other stuff. But people would be like annoyed. We weren't like some, there would be like dumb people that would be like, I'm not even playing modern music and I'd be like, are you DJing? It's my DJ night. It's my DJ night. And I'm like, I want to dance to this stuff. Yeah, so I would DJ, I DJed with two different friends and they were both like big girl group people. So yeah. But I would DJ like dive bars like nobody, nobody knew what I was doing this. This is like a little secret. Wish I could have been there, but I couldn't. I wish you could. I guess what? But guess what? You were probably like 18 or something. What years was this? Where years of what? Like 2010. 2010 I was 15. Oh, you were been too young. I would not mean. Yeah, I was in Missouri. I was in the, I was in the Cal fields. Yep, bye. I did. This is so I wish we should make it happen again. All DJ a tie bar for you now. Unannounced. Unannounced and only girl groups. I would love that. Yeah, I would completely love that. Please do that. Honestly, for trash mountain release, we'll find a time in a way. 100%. Oh, I have a segment for you. This is the true or false segment. What it is, every guest, we, I'm going to read you 15 statements. Okay. You're going to tell me as quickly as you can if you think what I just said is true or false. Okay. And Zoe, if you get 10 or more correct, we're going to give you $50. Oh my god. $50 US dollars. Okay, incredible. So the stakes are high. Okay. Are you ready? Yes. Bugs Bunny is older than Mickey Mouse. False. Bald Eagles mate for life. True. The capital of Nebraska is Omaha. True. False. Lincoln. The first text message ever sent said testing. Uh, true. False. It was Merry Christmas. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that is it. Crossroads. Crossroads schools, new school, newspapers called Crossfire. True. True. Lobsters have blue blood. True. True. The liver is the only human organ that can fully regenerate itself. True. True. Frances 12 time zones. False. True. What? Yes. Frances. France. No. France. 12 time zones. France 12. How is that possible? It's not big enough. All right. Baby, I don't know. They didn't get so many at all. Can we fact check that? I'm sorry. Fact check it. Fact check not with chat GPT. Fact check it not. I never do. Fact check it without chat GPT. Yeah. And while we do, Elvis's final rank in the army was private first class. True. False sergeant. Into the woods debuted on Broadway in 1987. True. True. The hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy was written by Douglas Adams. True. True. A group of owls is called a roost. False. False apartment. The seizure salad was invented in Italy. True. False Mexico. Jan Hoax. I knew it was in Mexico. I said. Jan Hoax's real name was Cynthia Smith. True. False. Jan Hoax's her real name. French Woods Festival of the Performing Arts is still open. True. True. How'd you do? Okay. We may have to review the tape, but I believe nine. Okay. Now what do we get on the time zones question? It is the so literally this. How's the possible? I'll tell you one second. I was trying to. We only have like four or three or four in the US. Don't we tell him? Okay, so 12 with its overseas territories. France. No. France uses 12 time zones 13 because it claims Antarctica. No. No. No. We got to give her that. How many in France? Like actual like. Contigue. Contigue. How do you say word? Contiguous? I don't know. Yeah, sure. That one. France. Well, it's all like the little islands and stuff are around. No, we don't get to. No. No. No. We you got it. You got 10. Yeah, thank you. I want $50. I'm glad that you went to war over this because you were right. Thank you. I knew there was something because I was like, I know about time zones. Well, counting Antarctica is crazy and they know that. The French people need to stop doing that. Yeah, yeah. They're always doing that. The French. They're always counting Antarctica. Can I donate the money to a charity? Oh, we would never do that. No. No. You have to take it and spend it. Okay. Can I spend it on dinner with Caleb Aaron? Yeah, you can. Yeah. You can. We're going to go get some wine or something. Is there anything you? Okay. Where can people watch Merv and win? On Amazon Prime. Comes out December 10th. Okay. What do is this coming out? This comes out the 18th. So this is going to already be out. Merv is out now. Go watch it now. Yeah. Merv is out now globally. If you're somewhere, if you're in France with your 12 or 13 time zones or in Antarctica or in Antarctica, you should be able to watch this. It's on Amazon Prime now. Go watch it. It's called Merv. And it also stars Charlie Cox who is Daredevil. Charlie Cox, Daredevil. Yeah, he's so nice. Yeah. And he's English. Which is huge. Which is huge for the English people. Yeah. Is there anything you want to leave the people with before we go? I love you all. Beautiful. Thank you so much. Thank you for having me. This was so fun. Can I come back a lot? Yeah. You absolutely can. You absolutely can. Thank you. Thank you so much.