DTN Podcast | Jim Alstott Ep. 56 The Kundalini Awakening That Changed Everything | Michele Blood

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I'm your host Jim Allstott and here, Gifted Souls step up to the mic sharing their spiritual journey. We're hitting the high notes and the low notes of their awakening, creating a symphony of enlightenment. This isn't just another interview show. This is where divine insights are channeled and universal truths are revealed. So crank up your stereo and sit back because who knows, this just might help you compose the next transformative chapter of your soul's purpose. Are you ready? Let's go. Welcome back. This is the Drop the Needle podcast and I'm your host Jim Allstott. And my guest today has spent decades proving that what you sing to yourself changes you faster than anything you've ever read. She's a Kundalini awakened mystic, the creator of musivation and one of the most quietly radical voices in the consciousness space. Please welcome Michelle Blood. Welcome Michelle. Good day Jim. Great to be here. Oh, thank you for making time for us. I know, especially in your schedule or with your schedule, it's just nuts. So thanks again. This is great. I have been looking forward to this so much because there's so many things. So just to give you a little idea and you could probably tell from her accent that she's not from Queens. She's from Australia. But Michelle's background, she was a rock singer. I mean, like sold out shows, rock singer all over the world. And man, she made a big right turn in everything that she did. And in everything that she was, what she started from as far as her career is concerned to where she is today. And it's, it's really, really cool. So I had told Michelle before we started that I really wanted to just dive in because I have so many questions and I think that they're important. And I want everyone to know about her. So you were a rock singer, like I said, in Australia. And that was your identity, your whole creative world before the accident. When you started writing affirmation songs in a hospital bed, was any part of you grieving the artist you used to be or did the accident for you from that identity? I grieved because I thought if I couldn't walk again properly, how was I going to be the entertainer that I was? Because I was all over the place. Cartwheels jumping on top of speakers, getting bumped to the drum kit. You know, saxophone, saxophone. And then, you know, so yeah, that, that part of me, I was quite depressed, which I'd never really felt depressed before. But when you're in physical agony like I was, it's pretty hard to feel happy. Yeah. Well, 100%. And I tell people that, so I've dealt with chronic pain before and from pain from acute or, you know, injuries that occur. But I've told people many times pain changes you. I don't care who you are. When you have that pain, it changes who you are at your, your core, at your soul. And it's your 100% right. I think what I was wondering is probably less on the physical, but more thinking, spiritual or emotional, because I guess I just put myself in your shoes, right? There's an emotional pivot that takes place from, I'm not going to be able to do this anymore, from rock singer to healer. You know what I mean? So that's, that's kind of where I was going with that. But what's interesting, I want to, I want to talk about your, the affirmations that came from that. And when you started from that hospital bed, can you tell everybody about that? Yes, absolutely. It was, it's when I recalibrate, so to speak, my life, it's really quite fascinating to me how it works spiritually. The things that I know now that I didn't then, because as you said, I was in my bubble. Because I'd been, I've been professional singer since I was five. So yeah, it's a long time. So, yeah, it was really fascinating. When I started the affirmation songs, because I always had a little cassette with me to, you know, sing a song down if I ever had a song idea. So you don't forget it. So I had ideas. Yeah, exactly. Thank you, Mick Jagger for teaching me that. But anyway, and so, and so I was listening to people were putting on these positive motivational things, which I'd never heard of, didn't care about. That wasn't in my world or my trajectory at all. But Napoleon Hill's book, Think and Grow Rich, I didn't care about the book. I couldn't turn it off. I hated people putting all that stuff on. You know, because when you're, when you're feeling like that, you don't want to someone coming, coming in and look like they're farting daisies. They're so happy. Right. Yeah. Because you're not in that frequency at all. So anyway, but when Napoleon Hill in Think and Grow Rich talked about his son, who was born deaf and how he used auto suggestion. And there was just, you know what I mean, Jim, when you hear something for the first time and you know, you've just heard something that's true. So I just knew, I knew that that's what I had to do. So I just started doing an affirmation. I am healed. I know I am. I love myself. I am my friend because he said you have to stay in the now. It has to be emotionalized. And I couldn't emotionalize it because I was in traction in a hospital bed waiting for the next, the next, next operation. But a couple of weeks after that, I had an epiphany, a definite spiritual epiphany, which changed my life. And it was like, you can't get a song out of your head because I had written and sung jingles, which I never told anyone except the band because I thought that would be uncool. But because it was, well, they didn't care, you know, you need a new drum kit, Michelle or Michelle or do a jingle. But I knew that advertising agencies spend so much money on jingles because they're smart. You can't get a jingle out of your head, which is why Australians eat veggie might and everyone else in the world hates it. So I started singing. I am healed. I know I am. I love myself. I am my friend. I'm not warmed up. But anyway, that's what I did. That was beautiful. Are you kidding me? That was awesome. I started singing it over and over again onto a cassette. And that is how it happened. I never ever, Jim, had any intention of writing it for other people because they're just a little after. They're just little affirmation songs for my own healing and consciousness because it worked. So when I got out of the hospital, my friend and I, we went into a little eight track studio because I was used to like 72 track studios. Yeah, recording. This is like a little, no, actually it was a 16 track studio. Yeah. And just started writing all these affirmations just for me and my band because I said, if this worked so well to heal me and get me into such a positive state of mind. Imagine what we can do. The band could go huge. We could really go far if we, if we're all super, super positive. So that's how it happened. But then the media found out about it. And then they started asking me to sing at these big events and that I didn't want to do, but it was really good money. So I told my band, I'm going to tour Australia with these people, Deepak Chopra, Wayne Dyer. And you guys ever heard of them? They're like, no, no, I haven't heard of them. I hadn't heard of them. But they were paying me so much money. I said, yes, I had no intention of stopping my band at that stage. But that's sort of like the impetus of how it, how it all changed my direction is that. And yeah, it was fascinating. You know, so that's, that's interesting from, you know, how. Some of the, the greatest inventions in our world today were accidental. You know, like the post-it notes, that was an accident. It's one of the best inventions ever. And I guess I kind of look at it that way with what was going on with you, that that was something that was world changing. And you weren't trying to do that. You were just trying to stop hurting. Exactly. I'm wondering what it feels like for you decades later to know that your greatest contribution to the world came out of the worst moment of your life. And that you had no idea it was happening. I find it fascinating. I don't get amazed anymore because I've experienced so many things since then, but I found, I find life and the way things happened. Fascinating to get us onto a purpose that we were always born to do, to be. And that, that I believe in 100% happens. And someone once said to me, well, do you think your life would have changed if you hadn't had the car accident? And I said, yes, I do. I think I was destined to get into spirituality and mysticism. I don't think anything could have stopped me from that. I think I just needed some sort of wake-up call. Maybe it could have just been a book I read, but it happened to be a horrific car accident. Yeah, right. Right. It would have been easier if it were a book, right? Yeah. Knock, knock, knock. Damn. I want to take in that over the accident, but that's just me. That's just me. So with, you know, I promised myself I didn't want to talk a lot about the accident only from the standpoint that I'm sure at some point you get tired of talking about it too, but that that NDE situation. You know, and you and I talked, oh gosh, I guess it's a month or so ago now. Six weeks, yeah. Yeah, to do our, the pre-show call. And we were talking about the book. And I was just like, hey, normally I do research, but you know, I'm writing a book. Have you written a book? And yeah, 35. And I was just like, oh my God, what an idiot. So I apologize to, of course, but you know, I had mentioned in that I have that in my book about NDE's and what that does to people. And oftentimes they come back with a completely different perspective on life in general and how they're going to live life. And the things that we're worried about are not the things we need to worry about. Was that, was that something that was going on with you during that time too? Oh, I was, I was absolutely in such gratitude for life itself. I noticed colors better, smells. I mean, I just fell in love with the world, with nature, with everything. I was just in absolute, I'd always been a happy person, but this was beyond happy. I was just in love with life, which took me on my, really is what took me on my spiritual journey and working with Bob Proctor all those years in Malaysia together. That also helped me because he gave me great advice. He said, you are having all these spiritual experiences and you're talking about your heart glow and I'm just in love with everything. He said, you need a teacher, an enlightened teacher. And I'd never really thought of that because I didn't know they existed because I thought there's Yogananda, Swami Muktenanda. They've left the body, there's Jesus, the Christ. I didn't, there was Mother Sanctuary of a Villa. I'd read all their books. I'd started reading all their books and I didn't realize that there would be enlightened teachers always at some stage on the planet. So I went searching for 14 years. I went to Japan 27 times. Every time someone said there's an enlightened teacher over here on Taiwan or in India, or I would go and look for one and eventually, you know, the teacher and the student end up meeting eventually. So that's what happened, you know. So was that Stuart Wilde at that point? Oh, Stuart Wilde was ended up being, I ended up touring with him with Deepak and we ended up being such great buddies, you know, good mates as we say in Australia. And I was, I conversed with him and talked with him and all over the world until he left the body, you know, a few years ago. So he was, he was, he was not an enlightened teacher though, Stuart Wilde. Okay. Yeah, he was from our conversation. You had mentioned him and how impactful he was on your life. And I was just wondering if that was what you were referring to. So yeah, no, that's okay. No, my teacher is a woman. I met in America and her spiritual name is Kundalini. And I went off the grid for 14 years when I met her. I stopped all social media. I stopped all concerts. I just studied, meditated, got totally into it until eventually I had my own awakening. And then she stopped teaching and then I started teaching. Wow. So yeah, that was, that was how serious I was to find what this was, this life, what God was. Never, ever, ever, Jim, I never ever for one moment thought I would awaken, but I loved meditating and I could feel the tingles when she meditated with us on the top of my head. My eyes start watering and, and it was just incredible. And she's like 10 years younger than me at the time. No, she's still 10 years younger. But I'm. I love that. That's so good. She was, but I'm younger than her now. Right, exactly, exactly. But the joy of meditation and being able to still your mind, because I don't care. People, people want to make meditation and spirituality complicated and it's not, it's not, you know, I'm high and mighty, kiss my feet. Backer off. Backer off. Yeah. Right. Well, that's ego. That's the whole thing that is like so flies in the face of all of these things that we're talking about that you, there's like a class distinction between, between people. No, I'm enlightened. You're not. And you're looking down at your stand behind me. You're not in my line, you know. Oh, that's so good. Wow. That's a lot. I know. I know. But this, this lady filled with joy and irreverence and cursing and. Love that. And I sent to her one day when we were in Egypt, because we traveled to a lot of different places. I said, I can't believe how blessed I am and lucky I am. Whatever happened. I'm from rock and roll. So we curse. We do this. We do that. And I was like the perfect teacher and I told her how long I've been looking for a teacher and she went, how convenient for you. You're welcome. It's basically say. Yeah. Yeah. You're welcome. I open my door to you. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. So, but, but it's like kiss. I, I say, keep it simple and spiritual. And, and then if you can keep everything simple and spiritual, kiss, kiss, kiss. Well, then your life will have meaning and joy and you won't be judging other people or thinking you're better than someone else. Everyone has enlightenment within them. It's just that you've got a beautiful diamonds and it's just clogged. That's all. It's just clogged. Hello there. Tom Allen here from the pottering podcast. This episode is brought to you by my garden escape at QVC. I don't know about you, but the moment the sun started peeking through the clouds, my mind immediately wandered to the garden and getting it so. And if you're the same, then my garden escape at QVC is a perfect place to start. It's a bit like having your own virtual gardening center where you can browse a whole range of plants, garden decor, tools, planters, outdoor lighting and more all from the comfort of your own home. You'll find inspiration and expert gardening advice all at your fingertips, whether online, on socials or on QVC's streaming platform, QVC plus. And if you're planning a bit of alfresco dining, take a look at their gorgeous outdoor furniture ranges from 70s inspired retro looks with avocado greens and bold stripes to modern neutrals with ratan accents. 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And like I used to love what Bob used to say about Proctor, he'd say, you know, jump over the terro barrier. Just do it scared and you'll come into the land of creativity and freedom. And then your fears that are usually irrational will be left behind. You won't be interested in going down political rabbit holes and everything. Like people are right now. You know, it's just, there's always going to be crap going on on this planet. There always has been. And you can't let yourself go down those rabbit holes. And unfortunately, I love the internet. Don't get me wrong. But unfortunately, people can go down those rabbit holes so easily with YouTube. And not I'm one of those people. No, I am because I try to stay away from like news, like network news, because I just think it's a bunch of click bait crap, quite honestly. No offense to any news people out there. I, you know, everybody has their thing, but it's it's almost intentional to feed fear. And I don't, I just don't care for it. But anyway, that's me. Because bad news, bad news sells and they know and they know that. So I mean, if you really need to know something, the way the universe works, someone will let you know, you'll find out somehow. Yes, it'll come to you. It'll come to you. Absolutely true. In a lot of different forms that'll come to you. Yeah, I mean, here I am in the mountains of California in this gorgeous, quiet, no one lives here. Just how I wanted it. And an ex-boyfriend who I absolutely adored, who was in a huge band in Australia called the Eurogliders, he passed away yesterday. I don't watch the news right. It's sad, but it's it's just what I'm saying is someone texted me that I hadn't heard from for 15 years. I don't even know how they got my phone number to let me know. I'm just saying if something happens and you're supposed to know, you know, you'll know. And it was it was lovely because then I could pray for him, which I love to do. I love to pray for people, particularly when they've just left the body. It's a really powerful thing to do to help them go through that stargate. Right. Oh, that's you. You have brought up a few different things that I want to talk about, which is so cool. I'm glad I'm glad you did that. So I want to go back really quickly if I can, because there are some people that are familiar with Kundalini Awakening and some that aren't. And I know that you you actually wrote about it in. Was it stop thought that you that you have that that first person account of going through the Awakening, which is so which is what we were talking about when we were on the phone because I. Yeah. My my book is about my Awakening and I bring it through tongue and cheek comedic. Mostly that's because I'm that's a coping mechanism for me still is to to laugh or make fun of myself. But the Kundalini Awakening, can you describe that a little bit from you experience? It doesn't have to be the definition necessarily, but what happened? Absolutely. Absolutely. Well, as I said, I was with my teacher all those years, and I started having a flash. And I didn't know it's that's the I didn't know it's the beginning of the Stargate Jesus talked about it. Actually, he talked about, you know, the eye, the needle, you have this little dot of light you start seeing when you're meditating. And and then when your thought is completely stopped, well, you get a flash. It's actually the beginning of the Stargate. And I didn't know that because she didn't talk about that part of her Awakening with us as students. But it was just incredible. And then I would wait. I would not I would meditate until I had a flash every day after that. And then eventually what happened was it was a Saturday morning and I was meditating and all of a sudden this huge buzz. I can't explain. People say it sounds like bees, but I don't think it sounded like bees to me. Just this like and just rushed through this, this tunnel and sort of like almost like the television show Stargate. But not, but not like round around around just straight ahead. And you're going faster than the speed of light, your consciousness. And I that's the first time and I ended up being in what looked like because there's no thought going on. Otherwise, you'd end up back in your body. Just I could see 360 degrees around me and it looked like I was in a universe just in space. And as soon as I realized, wow, I can see everywhere, jump straight back into my body. So when that when that happens at the base of the spine, there's this Kundalini. Everybody has it and we have a long at our spine, our actual physical spine. We have an ethereal spine called the Sushumna and that is blocked and that is blocked and the chakras lie against that except of course the third eye and the crown chakra. That's different. And my heart chakra, as I was talking earlier, I felt this heart glow. I was talking about with Bob. And that was because my heart chakra had already been partially activated through this car accident and through what I was doing. And so that's why it felt like that because it feels like, you know, like roomy. If you get any of roomies, poetry, love it. There's a, you know, I feel like you like a bird in my chest where no one can see it but me fluttering. You know, and that's what it feels like when your heart chakra starts to become activated. And so that means that Shushumna is starting to get cleared because the Kundalini energy is tiny cells of vibration scrubbing scrubbing Shushumna clear. So when you have a Kundalini rush, it doesn't mean you're awakened. It just means you're going to go through that stargate, God willing, because it's incredible. And every time you come back into your body, you're different, you're changed. And so I went through the stargate for months before I had a full awakening. It was just absolutely incredible. And I went through a stargate and then I'd go through a different dimension and then another stargate until eventually there was a lot. And then you start hearing when you're awake, you start hearing whistling. And I started thinking that the electricity in the walls, there was something wrong or I had ten nitrous or something. Yeah, right, right. Yeah, but it's the sound of, it's the beginning of the sound of the arm because the arms not like arm. Even though that's nice to still the mind. But that's what I started hearing. And so I could meditate listening to both, like the middle of my... That's interesting. Yeah, I'd listen to it to meditate. It helped me meditate. And then I would go into Samadhi. And when you go into Samadhi, it's beyond any sort of meditation you can ever imagine. It's beyond the stargate. It is when everything is gone and you are just literally one with your divine presence and you end up coming out of that knowing things you never knew before. It's intense, it's incredible, it's humbling because the more you experience the infinite, the more you realize you know nothing. Right. Yeah. Well, that's why I was talking to somebody about the section of my book talking about the questioning where you're either the seeking or when you're actually when you're questioning everything. And I said, the funny thing about it is that one question and then the answer led to another ten, which led to another ten. And it just kept building and building and building until it was just like almost a surrender where you go, okay, I get it. I don't know shit. Okay, I'll stop. Whatever you want to give me and tell me, teach me, I'm here to listen. Yeah, that's why the Zen masters have the Coens because eventually, eventually it's like, I don't know the answer to that. So they keep, it's like yana yoga, which is a really hard way to become enlightened because the mind can then want to keep questioning. And the whole idea, of course, as you know, is to come to, there is no answer to that question. So that the mind will stop thought. It's all about stopping thought. And the Zen way of teaching is so complicated. Keep it simple, Zen guys. Yeah. Well, you know what? And so the funny thing about it is I, and I mentioned this before we even started. Simple is my friend. Because simple means that I don't get lost. It's not convoluted. There aren't different areas of interpretation. It's just a feel then. And it's not just a feeling. It is, you feel that there's a presence and a whole or a holistic feeling of what's going on, what's happening. And I prefer that. And I am simple and I know I'm okay with that. But it just, I think it's a great existence. So I wanted to touch on a couple of things that you mentioned. The Shoshomna, am I pronouncing that correctly? Shoshomna. Shoshomna. The energy. So that's an energy channel that goes along the spine or... It's parallel. Oh, parallel. Okay. It's part of the ethereal body. Okay. And the reason I ask is because I don't necessarily have a mentor like that. Mine's more of a DIY type of thing where I'm going, okay, what is that? And then asking the question of myself to say, what am I feeling? And I usually look for some sort of body feeling. So where I wanted to go with that is you said that you left multiple times to go to the Stargate. And you said that that was like a clearing out of the Shoshomna each time you went. Is that part of it where it has to kind of... I wanted to say burn it away or burn it off. And that sounds violent, but it's just like that clearing of the... But you know what I mean, right? It's like that melting away of things. Yeah. It's the blockages in the Shoshomna. The chakras are all closed. If someone says to you like a massage person, oh, I can feel that your chakras are blocked. Of course they are. Yeah. You can't unblock a chakra through anything except meditation or finding a teacher that would transmit that light. So as they're transmitting that light, you can feel the tingles. It's going through your brain and it is attracting the Kundalini to come up the spine. And it's like everything that's ever been taught about Kriya Yoga. Kriya Yoga was simply allowing you to remember that both nostrils have to be clear because along the physical body, there's two... A physical spine, there's two nerves, the ida and the pingala. And people have had some horrible Kundalini rushes that they feel like they're going insane because the ida and the pingala nerves are blocked because they're only breathing through one nose. Most people only do breathe through one nostril. I knew what you meant. I was going there. I knew exactly what you meant. Two noses, whoa. She's wonderful. Look at her. She's got two noses and everything. Yeah. No, I got you. I was with you. Yeah. So when you have a Kundalini rush, that means that you have managed through hard work. If anyone tells you that meditation is easy, they're telling you something. It's not. Yeah. Yeah. So eventually what happens is that it's worth it. It's worth all the effort because it's incredible. So the Kundalini is rushing up through the physical spine, the Shashumna, clearing away, and then it just... It goes through your third eye, which is in the middle of the brain. It's not here. It's the middle of the brain where that looks sort of like a swan. The brain's there. It's like, yeah, exactly, exactly. And then it just... You go out through there and you go through the stargate. But then when you come back, the Kundalini comes down again. You haven't had a full awakening yet, but yes, it has cleared a lot of the Shashumna so that the other Shakras can become activated because they all have to be activated for you to have an awakening. So you had mentioned the thoughts stopping and that you can't have an awakening until your thoughts stop, right? Is that what you... Did I hear that correctly? Exactly. Okay. Exactly. Wonderful. Wonderful. So this is my question on that because I've been meditating not nearly as long as you, but I've been meditating for about six years. Oh, lovely. And I'll tell you what, it is one of the best ways that I can think of to start my day, every single day. And it doesn't have to be some extravagant three-hour meditation. It just is my intention and it just starts my day. And so one of the things that is brought up through a variety of teachers out there or a number of teachers out there is the fact that they'll say thoughts come in like clouds and they pass through. You recognize them. And I think even Ram Das was saying, the thoughts never really... The voice never really stops necessarily, but it'll slow down. Yeah, that's because he took too much acid. Well, yeah. Well, I was just going to say that there are times when I have a lot of thoughts coming in and there are times when the thoughts stop. And you'd mentioned that little light. I've had that happen a couple of times and it started me and it zapped me right out of it and then thoughts started rolling in. So I'm wondering from your perspective, what does it actually feel like when those thoughts stop and I'm not slows, stops. It stops. By the way, I've just got to say I am loving this conversation. Oh, good. Me too. People don't want to go deep. We're not going complicated. We're keeping it simple, but we're still going deeply into what people... There's so many closet mystics, you know, that they don't want to tell the world what they're really interested in because they think everyone's going to call them woohoo, woohoo. But it's a compliment. So it's like that old saying that they used to say to blondes, the lights are on, but nobody's home. And now you can say, thank you, I've been meditating. Yes, yes, my light's off. When thoughts stop, you become... That's an interesting question. What does that feel like? It's total peace and joy combined. Like this huge love bubble where there's no thought, but you're just immersed and you see golden light everywhere and you just one with it. And it's just incredible. And when you don't have thoughts rambling around in your head all the time, which your thoughts do stop all the time eventually, unless you need it. Right, need that noise. What happens is you no longer think of the past and you no longer think about the future. You live literally in an eternal moment. And when you live in an eternal moment, there's no fear anymore. I'm not talking about any sort of fear except, of course, you're not going to go into the lion's den if they're hungry. I'm not talking about that. You're going to still look both ways when you cross the road. But you don't even realize and as the shark was, as you have more and more of those moments of just that flash of light. Yeah, the first flash of light I had scared the crap out of me. Yeah, I know. I was like, whoa, what was that? But eventually you realize, wow, I'm not afraid of the things I used to be afraid of. And you find that you don't complain anymore because when people complain, it's because they want to block what they're afraid of because people don't want to look at their dark side, their gray side, their shadows. They don't want to look at that. They'd rather complain about someone or something. And I say to people, if you're complaining, just stop for a moment and ask yourself, am I afraid of losing something that I've got or am I afraid of not getting something that I want? Because when you complain or when you watch too much TV or something, you're blocking your light. And that's a bummer. That's a bummer because it's because you are the light. You don't want to block that beauty because when you start to realize, it's like you just even you look at your little finger and you're amazed at how gorgeous it is. That's like when I get dressed every day, it's like I look at my little, my tiny little body. And I'm short as well, just a tiny little thing I am. And I look at it like a little divine Barbie doll. What will I dress her in? You don't look at yourself as like a person anymore. It's just fun. It's fun to be enjoying the human experience. Really, you become more human when you're awake. Because you enjoy humanity more. You enjoy the human experience more. It just absolutely rocks your world. That's such a wonderful description about all of that. It just really paints a nice picture. So I'm thinking about the meditation again. You talk about thought stopping. And of course, this is one of those instances where I say one question leads to 10 more. And I'm like, boom, boom, boom, boom in my head. I've got, oh, what about? I wonder how this connects. But I know that you've said something that I don't hear very often. And it's don't meditate focusing only on the crown chakra. And so, and that surprises a lot of people because they say, oh, I have to open my crown chakra to let everything in. So I wonder, you know, what, what actually happens energetically when someone bypasses that the lower centers and they push on right now, right on through right up to the top, which is your, your crown chakra. And they eliminate all of the lower to mid chakras. I love you, Jim. What a great question. Wow. I'm kissing you even though we're not in person. Not for that question. Okay. This is it. If you don't have an enlightened teacher who's actually looking after the students to make sure they don't have a weird spiritual experience. Right. The Kundalini, the Kundalini energy is powerful. It's powerful and you have to be careful. Warning, Will Robinson. Love it. Security. Security. Love it. So what happens is there have been people that have just meditated on the crown chakra and have had, if they've done it for hours every morning, they can have the Kundalini awakened. Then they get really ill, especially if the Iter in the Pingala weren't used. And they can go insane. There's people that have gone into insane asylums because they've gone crazy because they've just focused there. And I mean, it's very rare for you to have an awakening from just focusing on your crown chakra, but it's dangerous because if you do it successfully, the other chakras all have to be. I don't believe in meditating on lower chakras ever. You know, it's like, all of a sudden the postman looks good. Right, right. No, it can make people really horny. And you don't want to be horny all day. Well distracting, I suppose. Yeah, yeah. No, I used to try to meditate on my navel chakra, but because my heart chakra was already slightly activated, I just always went there because it's along the spine though. It's actually there, but you feel like it's there. And then the throat chakra is really good to meditate on because then you can get that nectar from the gland in the middle of the brain and that nectar comes down and that changes everything. And then the third eye, of course, but sometimes you can't help yourself if you're getting a lot of tingling on the crown chakra. If you are going to meditate on the crown chakra, just visualize light is like tiny rain, raindrops of golden light shredding through from above. That's a safer way of doing it. If you can't help yourself and it's just tingling and you're just focusing there because you're feeling the tingling, we'll just visualize it coming down through the crown chakra and then coming out of your heart chakra and just visualize light is going around you through the crown chakra. Light is going around you 360 degrees clockwise. And then it's just filling the room and then it's going down through the body and this is a really good way of healing your body too. And it's releasing anything that doesn't belong in your body. So that way what the ethereal body will feel the cancer cells will feel everything first. And if you can make sure that you're a ethereal body through meditation, then your body doesn't get ill. It's incredible how it works. I've seen miracles happen everywhere around the world through people learning these techniques and doing them themselves. You don't always have to have a teacher. You can do this yourself. Everyone has the power within them to create and manifest and heal. We all have that power. We all have enlightenment within us and we have angels. And if you, you know, I've just finished after two and a half years a prayer app, which has morning meditations and prayers for angels. And you know, people just love it. Absolutely love it. And I've turned it into a book now too. I'll just give you a little plug true prayer app.com. You can get a free, you can get a free prayer every day. And I have that actually now that you mentioned it because I have your other. I have two of your other apps. Oh, okay. Yeah, I love doing. We love doing the apps. I think they're great. It's so convenient, by the way. Sorry. That was not intended to be a plug. It was automatic. I was thinking, where have I heard that? I've heard that because I've seen it. That's why. Yeah, that's why. So I'm, I want to ask you something. And I think it might be connected a little bit. The mystical experience activation that I've heard about. Now. That's the a transmission or light activation that you. You conduct these mystical experiences or mystical experience activation. At your summits or retreats and things of that nature. And there's a done typically during live settings. Yeah, well, I've got one happening in April in La Jolla down in La Jolla Cove in a beautiful. Beautiful. You told me about that. Oh my God. Yeah. And then every week I put on. I've got students or call the members or students from the mist, the mystical experience.com. And some of them have been with me forever for years and they're having their own awakenings and they're from all over the world. And they're the nicest fun people. And we have these zooms. And then I also do every two weeks, I do a free zoom to the public and teach them about Kundalini awakening. And I transmit light and do prayers. We do affirmation songs and we just have a blast. We have a blast because that's the way rather than attempting to teach people and be really serious about it. Yeah. The best way to teach people is to have them laughing and joking because then they're not thinking. Then they're enjoying themselves and they're more. Yeah, they're more open to experience what is being transmitted as we joke around and talk. And it's beautiful. It's beautiful. And I just, I just, I've met these people. They're soul family now, you know, and it's like anyone who comes to the community. Like anyone who comes, anyone I meet, I adore. I can't help myself because all I'm communicating with is the light within them. And if someone's suffering and they're not happy or they seem negative, I don't say to people, oh, don't be around those people. They're suffering. Have compassion. Right. Don't, don't, don't judge people because you don't know where they've been or what's going on. You know, sometimes, sometimes people are just natural assholes. I must admit. Oh yeah. But, but you know, some humans are quite tricky. But the, I've lived and worked all over the world and everybody is the same. Everybody wants to be on purpose. They want to be loved. They want to, they want to look after their loved ones. They want to do things that give them purpose and bring them happiness. Everyone's the same. It doesn't matter what your culture is. So this conversation today, I just adore it. I adore it. I adore it. Well, you know, I've got to tell you, I've probably got at least seven more topics. I'd love to hit, but I know we're, we're running out of time, but can I ask you one more question before we go into the musical section? Absolutely. Absolutely. Wonderful. So there is something that I saw that you're somewhat skeptical about. And you said that you're not convinced that more people are awakening right now than at any other point in history, which is flies in the face of what I hear almost on a regular basis where, you know, everybody is saying that they are, that this is like a mass awakening that's happening. So what are you seeing that makes you skeptical of the mass awakening narrative? Well, it's just that it's not true. Other than that, nothing. I'm not skeptical. I just, I know when people are saying they're awakened and they're doing this and that when they're lying, I just, I know they're lying. You know, I've got ex students that say they're awakened and I know they're lying. And, and, and it's, it's, it's a narrative that's going, well, put it this way. There's a few things going on. Let's look back in time. Let's go back. So, Atlantis was real and these beings of light came to awaken the tribal people on this planet. Let's put it that way. Okay. And, and then Hermes tries, Magusus would keep being reborn and then he ended up being a teacher in Egypt and all of these things happen. And if you're around, when you're oscillating at a certain frequency or you're interested at a certain frequency, you are going to read things that are in that frequency. You're going to meet people who are interested in that particular topic. Yeah. It's like, it's like when you just buy. Law of attraction is essentially. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, you just bought a white Volkswagen and then you see them everywhere. You know, I've never seen this before. Yeah. So there's always been awakenings on the planet. There's always been enlightened teachers. Some enlightened beings don't teach. I mean, I've got two friends that are enlightened and one of them, when he awakened, he thought he was going to be a teacher and his divine said, no, you've got to go into banking because that's where we need the light because there's too much crap going on there. And so he's, he's quite big in the banking industry, trying to do his best to send light to where there's corruption. So, I mean, it happens all the time, but it's just that now there are eight billion people on the planet. So how many of those people that we're still in a low evolution? If we were not in a low evolution, there would not be wars. There wouldn't be all the suffering that's going on in the world. We are still at a, we're still in what's called the color yoga. So there is still, you just see, you can see where there's light and where there are people that are more awakened. And when there are people that are sleepwalking that think they're awakened and they're just that you are attracting to yourself. If you're a negative person, you're going to attract people that you can fight with and complain with. It's just that you're attracting, you know, because when I first, especially when I first started working with Stuart Wilde and knowing him, all of a sudden I'm meeting these amazing people and that are interested in this. And if you've read this book and that book and I was like, wow, are we having an awakening on the planet? And Stuart said, even Stuart back then said, no, it's just that you're in that, you're in that vibration now. So that's what you got to attract. The birds of a feather flock together type of scenario. And you know, that's, that's so interesting that you say that because, and I will have so many things I want to talk to you about. Because that's okay. Well, maybe, maybe, keep talking and put it into another show or something. I don't care. You know what? Maybe, maybe that's what we'll do because I'm curious to know what your experience has been because I've heard and have my own experiences as it relates to relationships for, with people. Let's just say, I'm not talking about brother sister, but you know, love relationships with with people, partners or what have you husband wife. When one goes through an awakening and the other doesn't, it doesn't want to and doesn't want to hear about it even because they're a little freaked out by everything. And I'll be honest with you. If you've not experienced some, all are, you know, parts of it. It's not pretty. It's not clean. It's really freaking messy and emotional and not to be graphic or groovy, but it's like from an emotional sense, it's bloody because so much just gets stripped away and torn away. That you've been holding on to forever. But after that wind up, here's the pitch. What have you seen or what have you experienced as, as it relates to relationships and when that happens? Well, as I said, I've got students that are married. And, you know, it's been really interesting that, you know, some relationships have definitely broken up because the person wants so much to be on a path and they want to have a partner. But with, with two of my male students, they're probably in their fifties and they're going through their own awakenings and meditation. And I speak to a lot of them and we do one-on-one zooms and they'll talk to me about it. And, and I just say to them, well, don't tell your wife. You don't have to talk about it. Just say, I enjoy this. It's good for my health. It's good for lowering my blood pressure. And, and, you know, I just, I enjoy doing it and don't go too deeply. Don't try to get on a soapbox and, and don't say, oh, you've got to read this book. Or it's like when people say, oh, I know someone who needs you, Michelle. And I'm like, well, if you ever say that, it's because you need it. They don't. Right. Right. Put the mirror right up in front of you. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So they have, these two men have managed to, their wives are actually happy because they're, they're happier people now. And, and they're making more money because that just happens. You just have more success. And, and other people, you know, for me, I lost all sex drive. So I haven't had a relationship in many, many years because I don't want one. I don't need one. I've got one with my higher self and with, with all these beautiful people that I meet, that I just absolutely adore. But I find it with the younger students that I've got, they definitely break up a lot of relationships because they're like, I don't want that. I don't want that. And, you know, it just doesn't work for them. Because they're not in the same frequency anymore. And if you don't have kids, you know, why stay with someone that you don't have anything in common with anymore? Yeah, you know, and, and yeah, I, I get what you're saying because I was, I was just talking to someone the other day because doing the audio book for, you know, the upcoming book release. Yeah. But we were talking about it and then the spiritual awakening and that was a end of a relationship for that person. And I said, I can speak from, you know, my own circumstances or my own point of view. And that is, is it's definitely been stressful on the relationship because there's not an understanding and believe me, I think initially I was like, Oh, you should try this. It just feels so good. I wish I could do this all day long type of thing. And then I realized how that was landing. Because I some, sometimes I'm self aware and I can, I can get the hint, you know, but I just realized that, okay, stop. But here's the thing that when it becomes almost like animosity towards that, like, why are you doing that? And it's like, I'm not, I'm not doing anything wrong. But you're spending, you're spending time doing that when you could be doing something else. You could be like, what, what should I be doing? Well, you know, you could be doing anything other than that, you know, you, will you be doing something with me? What would you like to do? You know, that type of thing that it becomes, well, you're being selfish. And my response to somebody that tells me that, you know, that they're experiencing that from a partner or they think I'm being selfish if I'm, I'm spending my time meditating or in spiritual pursuits. And I said, well, are you feeling better? Yes. But isn't you feeling better? Good for your relationship? Isn't it good for your family? Isn't that the best, is the best version of you, the best thing for your family and those around you? Well, yeah. And they said, so that I don't understand that there's something else to that. And I said, I don't know. But then I've heard, I've had some people say that their significant others have asked them to stop doing that. Oh, wow. Stop because I don't like the person who you are anymore. Yeah. And I don't, have you ever heard that, something that extreme? Yes. And I absolutely know what's going on too, because then I'll get them to send me this, send me their spouse's photograph and I send like to that spouse to assist them to understand what's going on. And that helps a lot. And I just do that as a gift. I don't charge to do things like that. And what's happening is as we meditate more and as we are releasing our old shadow side, the ego is being released. And so they can't feel, you know, how siblings will say, oh, well, I know you. Right. Right. And they can't feel who you are anymore. And it scares. Hello there. Tom Allen here from the pottering podcast. This episode is brought to you by my garden escape at QVC. 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It's a hard thing to release, but when you start releasing the ego and you, we all know how hard that is because the ego never wants to die. It wants to pretend that it's in charge. But I'll say to anyone, if you, if you really believe that, ask your mind, what am I going to think next? Zero, right? Zero comes up because the mind isn't thinking. It's just regurgitating old information. That's all that's happening. You know, and so anyway, that's what's happening with the spouses is because they're afraid they're losing someone that they think they know. And they don't, it's just a very unconscious thing, but everyone is extremely sensitive so they can feel when you are being released and you're becoming, you know, independent. And, you know, it's just, it's just, it buggers them up. They just don't know what to think about it. So that's, that's what's going on. Yeah. You know, and I can, I can speak from my point of view again in that when you are no longer reactionary, whereas before, oh, I'm sorry. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, I'm sorry. When you, what said doesn't garner a reaction from you. That's when trouble gets poked. You know, all right, well, you know, let's, we got, we got to do something. There's something not right here. You're doing something. And so I was, and I'll even say that my wife had asked me at one point in time. I think you should really slow this thing down because I'm a, I'm a 100% all in. I take the cannonball approach to jumping into the pool. I don't dip my toe into anything and that can be beautiful and it can be really shitty and messy too. So I won't kid you, but I was asked one time to do that and I said, well, you know, that would be, I can equate that to being asked. Which limb do you want to, to remove? Oh, good and allergy. But it, but it is because it's, it's not something that I do. It's something that I am. And I don't know if that registers with a lot of people, you know, because it isn't, even though you can call it a meditation practice. What I get from that, what I receive in that time spent is who I am. So why wouldn't I want to do that? Yeah, I just, I just know that the reason the purpose in life is enlightenment. There are souls waiting to be here because we've been given the perfect situation to have an awakening. And, and I don't think anything else is important to anyone because I know people are tricky. You've got to go into another body. You've got to forget about the person you're married to. So I don't, I don't put a lot of importance on saving relationships because your relationship with God is more important to me than anything to your higher self, to your own awakening. So I'm probably not the best person in the world, but I can explain why it happens, but I'm not. I love your explanation. I thought when you said that, I was just like, Holy shit. That's it. Well, if you talk about such a low vibrational emotion, fear, fear, loathing, shame, I don't know how much lower you get. Yeah, it's, it's down there. So that makes, that makes a lot of sense to me. But, um, and there's something that something that you said that's a really good point to Jim is people sometimes want to, I wrote a book with Bob Proctor called Be Magnet to Money through the sea of unlimited consciousness. Through the sea of unlimited consciousness, the second section is all about the different levels of consciousness. So you can see where you're at because no, no. So a lot of people think they're in higher in consciousness than they are. And so I, I explained to people during that and in the stop thought book to that. One of the clearest ways to know that you are actually changing, recalibrating, releasing the old ego is that you don't become reactionary. That's, that's such a great point because you, your ego doesn't need to be right all the time. If someone says something and you disagree with them, you don't say anything. Just let them, let them. Oh, you know, it's, yeah. That's about the response I get. Okay. Yeah. And people really get more contrary, the less reactionary you are. Yes. They get more and more contrary because they want to hold on to something and they want to create when they're not feeling what they used to feel when drama isn't being created instantaneously by, by the woman or the man. When drama is not being created, they want to do something else to create a drama because it's energy. Everybody at an unconscious level want to feel energy and drama and fighting. You, you, you get hot literally and you've got energy going on. But then afterwards the person goes down to a lower oscillation than they were originally at. And so then they'll do whatever they can to get that feeling again. And so drama is recreated and recreated and it's just a groundhog day situation. Right. Right. Yeah, that's, it is. And it's amazing what the brain does, you know, as far as looking for familiarity. And with that being the case, it could be, so, which brings me to the point where your familiarity or comfort level. Inside your brain can be whatever you choose it to be. If it's happiness, joy, love, light or anger control, it's your choice. You get, you get to choose what the familiar story or pattern is in your brain. Well, I think that's why the saying is familiarity breeds contempt. Oh, yeah. Where did it come from? That's what happens. And, you know, people are tricky because I mean, the thing is, I say to people, if someone is sitting down with you and just talking at you all about themselves, they are vampires. They are draining your energy without realizing it. So if someone is continuously just wanting to get your attention, whether it's at work or at a party or whatever it is, you just say, oh, look at the time I've got to run. It's not being rude. Right. Because they're unconsciously wanting to, people can feel when you're at an oscillation or joyful. People like happy people. They like to be around happy people, but they're a little bit contemptuous of them at the same time. So they want to find out what's going on and when they can't find anything. So I say to people, don't act mysterious because that will make them want to get in even more. Don't act mysterious. Just be simple. Just be simple. Be polite. Don't share all about your awakening and you've got to read this book because people don't give a shit. They really don't. And it's just going to annoy them. And then they're just going to say, oh, that person's so into themselves. They'll think you're egotistical because you're excited about something. And if they're not excited about it, don't share it with them. Don't get on a soapbox ever. Don't do it. And that's the thing that I love hearing about people's experiences. I really do. So much, which kind of gets me in trouble with our time to say, hey, I don't want to know more. But so what I'm going to do right now is, and I know you're busy, but I would love to do this again. But I want to ask the musical questions. I want to get us to that point where we can go and we'll wrap it up. And hopefully I can have you back again. So as you know, every show that we put on has a musical section. And it's where I has the guest, some musical questions. And I think I even mentioned this to you before that I really do believe that music is the tie that binds us all together. And that everyone has a soundtrack that accompanies their life if they just take a moment to think about it. So we're going to dive on in. Reaching to the choir. I know. So this is what's wonderful about this is that I'm actually doing this is the first time that I've done it with somebody that's a musical. Somebody that's a musician. No, really? Yeah, you know, there's people that have played instruments and things like that, but you're professional. So this is going to be really fun. What was the first song you fell in love with from the radio or one that you heard and you can remember saying, oh, I can't wait to hear that song again. Born to run. Ah, the boss. Yep. Born to run Bruce Springsteen. When I heard that, when I heard that, my whole body just went into shock almost. It was like the voice and the lyrics and the song. And I just went, oh my God, who is that? I didn't know who it was. I just heard it on the radio. Yes. Yeah. And it was just incredible. And I was with my band at the time driving to a gig. And I just went, who was that? And they went, oh my God, I don't know. And he just released it in Australia for the first time. So we didn't know it was before MTV, before MTV. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah. And then I think the second one was Separate Ways by Journey. And I just said to the band, I'm going to record that, which I did Separate Ways. Great song. And we used to do it as an encore when we were still doing covers. Great song. Great. I mean, they give you shivers. Because when I sing a song from someone else, I want it to give me shivers while I'm singing it. I want it to affect people. And the other one was when I was 12, I think 13, 13 maybe, Woodstock had become a movie in Australia. It had been released as a movie. And one of the girls at school, she said, you know, you're a musician. She said, let's go and see this Woodstock movie. And so we wagged school. And we went to see Woodstock, which is the first time I'd ever seen a man sing a song. The first time I'd ever seen a man's penis, by the way, that movie. What is that? Anyway, interesting little side note. I was like, whoa, I want to see this again. Anyway, let's see this back to back. The Who came out. Oh, yeah. See me, feel me, touch me, heal me. And I was just like, oh my God. So I went and I saved up. I started washing windows to save up to get the Woodstock three album. And I would just listen to that over and over again. I thought it was its own song because that's how they had it on Woodstock. It was from a musical I found out about a year later called Tommy. And that hadn't been released as a movie in Australia at that stage. And so I ended up recording that. And I actually got a note from Peake Towns and telling me how much he loved my version of it. Oh, wow. Because I had to get the rights to call it See Me, Feel Me. You can watch it on YouTube, my song, doing that. And when I sing it live, I just about faint because it's all about God. Listening to you, I hear the music. You know, I mean, the lyrics are all about God. And it's because Tommy is about the deaf, dumb, blind kid, you know, who had an awakening. And so he's like, you know, saying to God, See Me, Feel Me, listening to you, I hear the music. You know, it's just incredible, incredible. Peake Townsend is a genius. He's an absolute bloody genius songwriter, musician. He's amazing. He's amazing. And Roger Daltrey is one of the best rock singers ever in the world. I would agree with that. Incredible. Incredible. Anyway, so that's a start about the music. There we go. Yes. So I know, I don't know if this happened in when you were growing up or not, but I know for sure it happened when you were on the road with your band. Did your family have a song that everyone would belt out on road trips or vacations? No. What about with your band? Oh, oh, um, oh, no, because I had to save my voice. Okay. I couldn't make sense. I had to. I didn't speak during the day before gigs. Yes, we, we used to do Peter, Paul and Mary go tell it on the mountain. Ah, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's cool. That's cool. That's the first. Yeah, because I was always looking after my voice because I was a professional singer since I was a kid. So I didn't just built songs out unless I had to. So this one is going to be a tough one then too. I was just going to ask what your favorite song was when maybe you were in high school or your, your, your final year of high school that you'd built out with your friends. In sense you're not. Oh, oh, Neil Young. Anything by Neil Young. Anything by Neil Young. I mean, I didn't know what he looked like. I just, I loved CrossFit Stills National Young. I mean, and then, and then Neil Young brought out his own album. And, and, you know, us kids, us girls at school, we would just go and listen to that over and over again, smoking a little joint. Yeah. When I was, I was about 15, no, 14, 15. Outstanding. That's the only time I did it because I didn't want to hurt my voice, but you'd listen to Neil Young and his songs. And I mean, he wrote Old Man when he was 21. Get out of here. Yeah. I mean, when, when Harvest came out, he was only 23. It's just, he's just an incredible. What an old soul. Yeah. His voice, his lyrics, his, he's just Neil Young is just amazing. Yeah. So do you have a favorite song that gets your positive juices flowing? Oh yeah. I have a playlist of. Me too. I have a fun playlist. So I've got, I've got the old 70s disco stuff like Shake Your Booty. I love, love disco. I just love, that's my exercise every day. I get on the treadmill and dance and the cat gets on with me. And, and Pilates, but anyway. And also, you know, I love Justin. I call him St. Justin. Not Beba, the other one. What's his name? Timberlake. Timberlake. I love his song from that movie. Oh gosh, what was it? Which is such a fun, fun song. Oh, I know which one you're talking about. Yes. I know what you're talking about. Yeah. The feeling. Yes. The feeling. Yeah. Dance, dance, dance. And I also, I love, I also love Happy by Pharrell. Pharrell. I love that song. I love that song. When I do an event, I always play those two and get everyone up dancing. It'll do it. Those are songs that do it. Yeah. Yeah. And then I teach everyone how to do the, I teach everyone how to do the bump. Oh, okay. Okay. So all you have to do is go to a KC in the Sunshine Band concert one time and you see that. I love that. KC in the Sunshine Band. Brilliant. I mean, when I came to, when I first came to America, I went to every one of them. I went to every concert I could possibly go to because a lot of those people didn't come to Australia. Sure. And, and here they are playing everywhere. I'm like, oh my God, I'm going to go and see Prince. I'm going to go and see Prince again. I'm going to go and see Neil Young. I mean, I just went to the Dubby Brothers and then, I mean, I just went to every con, every concert there was when I first came here to live because all these people that I'd adored for years, and even if they did come to Australia, I was gigging. Great. You didn't have time to go see him. Yeah. Unless, unless we were supporting because I love the pretenders and we toured all around Australia with them. Oh, you're kidding. That's great. Yeah. And Georgia Satellites, I love them. And we do it with them. Love Georgia Satellite. I was actually singing one of their songs earlier today. We were getting my voice warmed up for the audio book. Can I tell you a quick little, little story about Georgia Satellites? Please. I didn't know what they look like, right? When we got the, the booking to book with it. Anyway, so our keyboard player's wife was a gorgeous little thing and she would do our monitors, the sound for the monitors on stage. She wasn't front of house. She was on the side and it was always hard when you're going to first work with the band to make sure that you're allowed to set the monitor to how you want. So you can hear it and are we allowed to use your drum riser? You know, they just usually they want you to look as bad as you can. Anyway, so this guy came up to a later and said to her, you're doing the monitors and she said, oh, you can I just put a little bit of tape where I want it just so that it's, you know, I can get it to sound good for them. And he said, yeah, sure. Love, you know, this American guy said to her and then. And then we did our gig and then he was up the side of the stage the entire time watching and then we went backstage and then we decided to go around the side to watch them and he was the lead singer. Oh, wow. That's awesome. He pretended he was changing back. He was pretending he was the road crew so that he could flirt with our keyboard player's wife because she was so gorgeous. So funny. Anyway, it doesn't matter. So it isn't. I've got too many stories. I'm sure you do. I'm sure you do. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to ask you my favorite question and then we'll wrap it up and I'll let you go because I've been taking up a lot of your time here. Sometimes there are songs you hear that ring so true that they can stop you in your tracks. And the songs lyrics sound like they were written specifically for you or by you. What's that song? Save me. Feel me. Definitely. Okay. It just, it just, I was so emotional the first time I heard it. Seeing it on Woodstock, it was just absolutely blew my mind. That's the, that's because it's all, I didn't realize it was all about God, but it was just the way Roger D'Altri sang it and everything. It just made me extremely emotional. I was only 13. That's, that's so cool. And thank you for sharing all of your, your stories, your experiences in, I know it's not all sharing your, your stories and your experiences with us. That was great. Well, it's just about time to cue the music for today's episode, but don't forget to like comment and subscribe to the drop the needle podcast to stay up to date on our latest episodes. I'd also like to take a moment to thank everyone again for tuning in today. I hope you enjoyed this episode of the drop the needle podcast. I would also like to thank our very special guest, Ms. Michelle Blood for being on today. Michelle, can you let everyone know how they can get in touch with you? Yeah, I've got, my stop thought is an audio program, but hours and hours and hours because it was like 15 years worth of teachings. And it's, it's absolutely amazing. I'm going to give it, give that away for free. And one of my favorite albums that I did, Bob Proctor actually wrote three of the lyrics and song songs for success. They can have all of that for free. If they just go to Michelle blood.com forward slash drop the needle. That is fantastic. And you know what I'm also going to do is I'm going to ask for all of your socials and apps. So do you have like a link tree or something that I could put in to the show notes? Yeah, you can just go to a true prayer app.com and it actually has the list of all the different apps and everything. Perfect. On there. So you can just go there. That's a lot of, it's a lot of freebies up there too. I noticed that with your, with your apps. I thought it was very generous actually. I was like, Oh, what a nice thing this is. So thank you again for, for being here. Thank you, Jim. I just love you. I think you're amazing. Oh, thank you. All right. My drop the needle. Posse like Billy Joel says from the highs to the lows to the end of the show. This is the end of our show until next time. This is Jim. I'll start wishing you infinite health, happiness and the perfect playlist for your life. Thank you again for being the best part of us. Catch you next time. Innovation has always kept the world moving forward, but it also comes with risk. As technology and AI evolve, AXA XL is facing into risk as a leading global insurer. We constantly push the boundaries to protect your data and network from cyber risks. AXA XL facing into risk for a future to be imagined. 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