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Bonus #174 - Sam Evans [PATREON PREVIEW]

11 min
Apr 2, 202627 days ago
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Summary

A caller seeks advice on reconnecting with an ex-boyfriend from her abstinent Christian teen years after matching with him on Hinge. The hosts discuss whether she should pursue a casual sexual encounter with him despite her preference for serious relationships, weighing the fantasy against realistic expectations and her tendency to become emotionally attached.

Insights
  • Unfulfilled fantasies from youth rarely match the reality of revisiting them years later, similar to how nostalgia-driven reboots often disappoint compared to original experiences
  • People with religious upbringings may carry residual attitudes about sex that affect their ability to engage in casual relationships, even after leaving the faith
  • The distinction between a 'random hookup' and reconnecting with someone you have history with carries different emotional risks and attachment potential
  • Setting clear expectations upfront about the nature and scope of a casual encounter is critical for people prone to emotional attachment
  • Reframing a one-time sexual experience as 'closing a loop' rather than starting a relationship can help manage expectations and emotional outcomes
Trends
Dating app reconnections with past relationships as a cultural phenomenon among millennialsPost-religious dating anxiety and residual sexual shame in formerly abstinent individualsExpectation management in casual dating for people with relationship-oriented attachment stylesNostalgia-driven decision making in modern dating contexts
Topics
Casual dating vs. relationship-seeking preferencesEmotional attachment and hookup cultureReligious upbringing and sexual attitudesDating app reconnections with exesExpectation management in relationshipsFantasy vs. reality in sexual experiencesPost-breakup dating readinessAttachment styles and casual sex
People
Sam Evans
Featured guest on Bonus episode #174 of the podcast
Stavi
Co-host providing relationship advice and commentary throughout the episode
Elvis
Co-host providing relationship advice and commentary throughout the episode
Quotes
"You basically were edging for five years. And then put it on the back burner and then kind of edged in your mind the whole, all the rest of time."
HostEarly in episode
"There's a lot of potential energy here. And is it going to cleanly translate to real firepower? Or is it not?"
HostMid-episode
"You don't really sound like the kind of person who's okay with random hookups. I wouldn't necessarily call this a random hookup."
HostLater in episode
"You're on like being slutty training wheels with this one kind of. And just be like brutally honest with yourself about what you're getting it."
HostAdvice segment
"You'll never, no matter how bad you wanted to fuck someone in high school, it's ever going to be as good or as cool now that you're both like 15 years older."
HostLate episode
Full Transcript
Hello, Stavi. Hello, Elvis. Hello, esteemed guest or guest. Thank you for taking my call. I have a question. So I grew up as an abstinent Christian teen, and I dated this guy during that time for about five years. We never got to bang. That was, you know, a huge struggle in our relationship, obviously. We were teenagers. Of course. But eventually we broke up. We went our separate ways. That was like half my lifetime ago. However, he and I have recently matched on hinge. Yes. And have been talking a little bit. You owe it to yourself. He is somebody that kind of stands out in my mind sometimes because I really think that it's a shame that we never got to bang. This is so erotic. This is awesome. We are no longer an abstinent teenager. You basically hold on. You basically were edging for five years. Yeah. And then put it on the back burner and then kind of edged in your mind the whole, all the rest of time. You're both about to, I mean, this is, it's great. Or it could be really disappointing. There could be something where it's just like, this is a very powerful. It's like kinetic energy versus potential energy. There's a lot of potential energy here. And is it going to cleanly translate to real firepower? Or is it not? Yeah, but just find out. Don't get me wrong. I would be trying to find out, but I'm just, I'm just throwing out the opposing view. Yeah. Manage expectations. But let's hear some more elders. Teenagers. This is something we're kind of like talking about. He's kind of in a spot where he doesn't really want to be in a relationship right now. He just got out of a long-term one. My boys check it. My boys going back through the list. My boy, he's family feud pass. And now he's coming back with five seconds left. Time, but. And I'm kind of looking for something serious. But I kind of feel like this opportunity should not be. Yeah. Hell yeah. It should not be good right now. He looks really good. Usually my thing. So I'm not serious. This isn't really a hookup. Yeah. You know him. Should I forego my usual preferences in relationship to just retroactively fuck this guy that I was after so many years? Do you think that I am going to grow attached? Because that is something that I do. That's a very valid concern. That's a valid concern. So I'm kind of weighing my options here. I would be happy to hear any input that you all have for me. Thank you. Yeah. I do think it's a bad time to call into the show when there's not a female guest on. Sure. Sure. There's just a room full of dudes. And we're all like, no, you should fuck this guy. You should fuck him. And you should fuck him hard and good. Fuck you. Fuck you, dude. You better fuck a shock-ish dick, bitch. Because I'm thinking about it from the other end. I'm like, this sounds like the best thing that's ever happened. Well, OK. Here, allow me to, once she puts in the like, I'm a fear of getting attached, right? Here are the negatives. Here, because we've, the positives are kind of obvious to everyone, right? This is hot. This is someone that you pined over and ultimately never fucked when you were younger. And there is something to coming back around and finishing that, right? Yeah. That's, that would, that could be awesome. Now, we've already discussed that sometimes the things you fantasize over are a big letdown, right? This could very well be a big letdown, right? I don't know. We don't know about this guy. We don't know. And now he's already fucking laid down, done not looking for a relationship track. Sure. Which you should take seriously. No, that's what I was going to say. Yeah. Do not go into this. Yeah. Unless you just want to do it for the like, it's an experience. It doesn't re, to me, you could count this as a one off that doesn't, you don't suddenly become a person who does hookups. This to me is not a hookup hookup, but somebody you don't know at all. Yeah. Now this potentially could be even more dangerous than a hookup because you do already have these built in feelings for sure. Like you hook up with somebody and even if it goes good, you're like, I didn't really like this person. That could actually be, it could actually be easier to not get caught up on a hookup where you have no real connection, right? The flip side though, you do know like this guy is assumedly nice, safe, right? True. You trust him on like a certain level, right? Right. Yeah. We're assuming that's the case, right? Yeah. If that's the case. And yes, take it seriously. Don't, if I would say, if you can go into this and comfortably with yourself, think this would be fun to do. Yeah. You know, maybe it's a little fling tops. We fuck a couple of times, but maybe we just should fuck once just because, you know, we wanted to fuck each other for five straight years and we never got to go into it. If that's okay with you, that you might only fuck this guy once. And by the way, you might not even fucking talk to this guy ever again. That's the other thing. Like he's assumedly nice, but you know, who knows? Because like I'm thinking about it now. I think whatever she's feeling, I think he's feeling it like 10 times more. Like as much as she wanted to fuck him as teenagers, yeah, he for sure wanted to. He wanted to fuck her. Like we all got super excited. Crazy. You're like, hell yeah, dog. So that's that's really my advice is like, you don't really sound like the kind of person who's okay with random hookups. I wouldn't necessarily call this a random hookup. I think I think it's squarely in the would you enjoy fucking this guy one time, even if it's like for the story, even it's for the experience. Is that something you're interested in? If it is, go for it with no expectations. And this might be an opportunity for you to kind of like not be so necessarily clingy, right? Like practice that a little bit. Yeah. Because look, even if you're not religious anymore, she's from a bad background. It's hard to get out of your bones, I would assume, you know, like that way of thinking that like you could probably, you know, we are very sex positive show here. You could probably stand to be a little less sacred about sex. You know, that's my hunch. And this doesn't even really, this is like a nice way for you for a square to be naughty. Like if this is what you think is a hookup, fucking a guy you dated for five years, you count that as a random hookup. Good for you, sister. That's good enough for you, right? Like that's you. Yeah. You're on like being slutty training wheels with this one kind of. And just be like brutally honest with yourself about what you're getting it. Like if you want to do it, that's fine, but just be like, Hey, it will be this. And I accept that. Yeah. From the get go. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. Yeah. Which could, but it could be cool though. But be honest with yourself. And if you decide you want that fucking go for it. I think you should almost expect it to just not be an incredible like experience. I fully agree with it because it probably won't be. You'll never, it's like, let's say this, it almost certainly won't. Yeah. You know, you'll never, no matter how bad you wanted to fuck someone in high school, it's ever going to be as good or as cool now that you're both like 15 years older. Yeah. Well, I don't know. It won't be as like people are. Who knows? Could be cool. Yeah. I think my high school is like, I'm trying to think about girls I want to fuck for my high school. There's a few I would definitely still fuck. I don't know. You'll never catch this. Me though. You'll never, I know, but you'll never like fulfill just that. That whole inside of you from when you're like 17, 100 percent. It's like a remake of Star Wars, like a new Star Wars, right? You're like excited and then you're like, this is not this would have hit a lot different if I was a kid. Yes. You know what I mean? Like sucking this guy's off. What if only I was a kid? If only I was 17, right? Like that's your Star Wars is a great example because it's made for children. Yes. And it's like, yeah, if you have, I bet you little kids love all every new Star Wars show them, right? Yeah. But it's like this is, yes, you're never going to make that up. And it's almost like, you know, it's not at a certain point it stops being cool to behave like you were when you were younger. Again, this woman's not in danger of that. Yeah. Yeah. That's more like that. You do owe it to yourself to just like close that loop and like stop like wondering what if I just yeah, this guy finally. Yeah. And yeah, it does sound like, you know, she has like the remnant Christian attitude. A little residue. Yeah. I hear you. Stick with you too. Oh God. Yeah. Really? Were you ever in like a setup where like the girls wanted to fucking you were like, what about God? Yeah, 100%. Yeah. Yes, dude. Yes. Yes. Holy shit. And you do spend like that's why I got it so excited because I was like, I have memories of like, not exactly, but like situations like that. And it's like, God, if only now. I could, I connect with this deeply. Yes. Yes. Yes. Dude, that's so funny. Oh, we can't because I want to be good. Oh, what? That's crazy. You just want to slap yourself in the face. Yeah. That's fucking insane. Yeah, dude. Oh my God. I can't, I respect that so there's, I couldn't respect anything less than a man turning down sex for religious reasons. Maybe it's maybe it's some weird type of massage. If a woman does that, I get it more. Sure. You know, but it feels womanly. And that feels like, what are you a little girl? If you like, that's female stuff. Yes. That's a female trait. Yeah, for sure. Turning down sex for the societal good or whatever the fuck bullshit. Yeah, dog. It sucks. Yeah. I was the exact opposite. I was just desperately trying to get pussy and not able to until I was like in my twenties. Like just trying so hard with ready to throw any religion creed or belief under the bus. And still be whatever you want me to whatever I have. No, just be nothing. Please, please, please give me pussy. I'll do whatever you want. I'll do whatever you want. I'll do whatever you want. I'll do whatever you want. Give me pussy. Please, please. I'll do whatever you want. I'll do whatever you want.