#2442 - Ehsan Ahmad

The Joe Rogan Experience Showing my day Joe Rogan podcast my night all day Hey, Bella. Hey. It's going up, brother. Good to be back, Joe. Good to see you as always. Yeah. This time, this time I have something to like actually promote. Well, you're always promoting. So I mean, any kind of appearance is sort of a promotion. Correct. You're promoting the audience gets to see you. Right. Right. Right. Yeah, it was so funny because I got me thinking so I started watching Patrice's open Anthony appearances because there's a blister them on Spotify. And what was so funny to me was like, you know how they have these like these group Of like mentally disabled people that they kind of fuck with. Open Anthony. Yeah. Yeah. It was like a carousel. It's like kind of mean. It's kind of horrible. Yeah, it's kind of like, kind of glad we're past that. But what made me laugh is every single one of them at the end of the thing was like, and here's my website. I don't website. And I was like, damn, I've been on the Joe Rogan Experience twice and I don't even have a website. You have a website. I never website. This is the first time I had a website. Wow. What did you do? Did you make yourself? No, I find you. Yeah. I realized like, oh, I got to pay people to do stuff like that. That's out of my wheelhouse of like things I can do. Ironically, I'm terrible with technology for a guy who looks like me. There's some things you could do like a square space has a great setup. It's pretty easy to do. Yeah. But that's I think that's just pure. It's like pure laziness on my end for sure. And a little bit like I spend so much time on my like my brain space. And this is dedicated to my jokes. I don't I kind of shut out everything else. It's a fun time to be alive. One of the things is really that's really exciting about the mothership is for someone like me who's been doing comedy for so long. It's really exciting to watch people's careers launch. You know, like see guys like Cam Patterson go from getting a spot on kill Tony to being a regular on kill Tony to being on fucking Saturn at live. It's it's crazy like something like Christina Mariani now just like sells out rooms at the comedy store all the time. She's killing it. Just and then you have like Peyton Ruddy and like Dylan Carly. You know, these are just guys who were just at the club and just made a way like social media life. And you get to see people get just tighter and better like McCusker's new set like we did last night. Really fucking good man super solid really fun. It's just like we got a good thing man. It's a good thing. Yeah, it's a fun. It's just a fun place to be around everyone just working jokes. That's what it is really. It's so funny. There is such this narrative outside of the ship about what Austin comedy is. And it's just really just a bunch of people just doing jokes. The narrative is only with jealous people. It's not based on any reality. It's not based on people go there and hang out. Right. Well, it's it's it's always these people who love to talk about Austin, but they don't talk to anyone in Austin. It's like there's a bunch of comics willing to hang out and talk to you. I think I've told you just before, but I have a friend of mine who's you know, somewhat of a philosopher and online friend. I don't even know what he looks like. We've been going back and forth for years. But he warned me about this a long time ago. He said you've created a wall garden and he goes and you've got all these friends and you're all supporting each other and you're all having fun. But there's a lot of people that feel on the outside. And they feel like left out of it. And so they're like, fuck those people that party sucks. You know, it's kind of along those lines. And you know, if you could find some connections to other negative things, you know, like me and Tony, we have this connection to Trump and sort of Shane. And you know, there's this all sorts of that. This all sorts of that. Oh, fucking, you got to be a right winger to be and then the narrative comes out. Oh, you got to tell jokes about fucking trans people. You have to like, yeah, you can't be a liberal. You can't be this. You can't be like, well, that the whole, the whole like you have to be a right winger. That's like, to me, that's like massive projection. Because there are these spaces where like if you're a right winger in comedy, like there's like left the space that you just can't be in for sure. You'll get pushed out. You'll get you'll get treated badly more importantly. Whereas at the mothership, like that fucking agreement, like 80% of the time, it's mostly like progressive people. Yeah. Oh, and a lot of people, most of the people who work there are mostly left wing. Yeah, it's a place where it's a place where but because right wing people, I guess, are allowed to be here. Like also a lot to be here. It's all of a sudden this right wing Nazi haven. But it's also is like, what does that even mean? Right. Like what is right wing? Like because you don't think that that candidate and what they were doing. By like storming the fucking gates with illegal immigrants. You don't think that was a good idea. You don't think like rampant spending completely unchecked with no documentation. Like what's going on in California? You don't think that's a bad thing. What Tim Wallace is doing. I mean, it's so there's so much of it man. But then it's also like, yeah, what ice is doing like fucking shooting that lady seems kind of crazy. You know, like grabbing people that happen to be American citizens and fucking dragging them out onto the snow and asking for their papers. That seems kind of fucking crazy too. Yeah, that's even saying, but it's also like they have a crazy job. Like imagine you're a nice agent. Just imagine what happened. Okay. So we tried, we used our sponsor perplexity the day and tried to figure out through AI what the exact number is. But when you deep dive, you realize they don't know the number. They really have like a estimate of interactions with illegal immigrants and it's somewhere around 11 million for four years, which is fucking wild. That's 10 Austin's. Okay. Yeah. At least of illegal immigrants were allowed to get in this country, aided to get in this country and then moved to states. They moved them. They flew them out to certain swing states. Like this is all Mike Benz is documented all this stuff. This is all. You can see they gave him EBT cards like, so imagine you can imagine two things. One imagine you're one of those people like, dude, they're asking me to come. This is awesome. Now I'm in America. I'm going to get a good job and be able to support my family. And then all of a sudden you have these fucking dudes in bulletproof vest looking for you on the streets. Yeah. Yeah. I thought you said it was okay. I thought the Red Cross gave me a map. I was, you gave me a fucking cell phone and now you're hunting me. Right. And then it's like cotton across fire. But it now imagine the ice agents. Okay. This is your job. Your job is to go out and find these people. And one of the things you don't get about this is like, because there was like a recent clip of mine that got like highlighted where I was criticizing ice. One of the things that you don't think about when you're into this is just like regular police interactions. The ones that you see online are the horrible ones. So you think all cops are horrible. What you miss is the millions of interactions that people have with cops like, how you doing today, sir? Good, sir. How you doing? Can I see paperwork? Sure. Here it is. You know, hurry. I fucked up late for work. You know, all right, man. Just slow down. Go. Like, all right. Thanks, brother. Everything's nice. That happens to like, there's nice interactions with cops. There's people that save people from bad guys. It happens all the time. There's people that are thankful that they called the police and they stopped the burglar who is breaking into their fucking mom's house or whatever it is. Right. There's so many more of those, but you're not seeing those videos. And so with the ice thing, what you're only seeing and you're only hearing about American citizens that have been arrested, the lady that got shot, you're hearing about all these negative. And what you're not hearing about is the number of violent criminals that they've caught. And it's a lot. It's in the thousands. It's not like thousands of American citizens have been shipped out to other country. That's no. It's like net positive. If you look at it that way, like the CV can find out how many because I know there's probably going to be a bunch of various sources that are not totally accurate. But find out like what are the number of violent criminals they've caught since they started doing that? At EDF, we don't just encourage you to use less electricity. We actually reward you for it. That's why when you use less during peak times on weekdays, we give you free electricity on Sundays. How you use it is up to you. EDF, change is in our power. Attention. Attention, rail travelers, platform paces, window gays and our rest negotiators. Have you heard? The big rail fair freeze is here. Rail fairs have been frozen across England until March 2027 on standard class tickets, including off-peak, anytime and season tickets. For more information, visit national rail.co.uk slash fairs for ease. Season season, exclusion supply. Well, also the there is a question on this is how I because I know this how they recruit some ice agents. It's just like they're ads on local TV just offering. Like signing dollars. Yeah, don't you have say there's an ice hat. Yeah, and it's like these are just like also regular people. How much of training are they really getting? Right. Because when you watch the shooting video, you're like, why is the guy shooting also recording with his phone? Like there's no way that's like anything you're trying to do his own safety. Like just to make sure that you can see this lady's unhinge. Is he not wearing a body camera? He's not a cop or a buddy's not wearing a body camera. Yeah, I bet that's why. But that's why I filmed it. And also that same guy turns out was dragged by a car just recently. So like he almost lost his life where someone did try to run him over. He's hanging onto a car for dear life. I think he got 300 feet. You got your three. That's crazy. 300 feet is that's a long way to get dragged. Yeah, right? Yeah, you 100% there's a full possibility that you may die. There's no single public record number of violent criminals captured by ice rage just over the last few months. And available data suggests those cases are relatively small share of recent ice arrests and detentions. One analysis ice internal data said that only 5 to 8% of the people booked it to ice detention late 2025. And only fiscal year 2026 had violent or serious property crime convictions. But even if it's 8%. They've gotten rid of a half a million people already. And then 1.6 million voluntarily deported. So in a half a million people 8% is a lot. That's a lot of violent criminals. So this is weirdly phrased as of January 20. I would say 8% is a lot like if you have cancer in 8% of your body, I would say you're fucked. You know what I'm saying? Like if you're saying, oh, it's only been 8% that are violent criminals. It's all a lot. That's a lot of people. But now the question is, are these 8% and the nonviolent people sent in this to the same place? Oh, that's a good question. You know what I mean? Because like I do you do want the violent criminals out. But then I don't want the non violent criminals to be sent or nonviolent people who are here to be sent to a prison. Exactly. It says no longer voluntarily publishes detailed case level respirator by offense type and independent projects. So imagine if you're a dude from Mexico that just walked up here because you wanted a better job and then they shoved you in a prison. And now yeah, in some prison, you never did anything bad your whole life. And now you're in some, well, the El Salvador thing are these still doing that? I don't that I don't know that that was a bad. That's bad optics. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of optics. The optics with ice has been terrible. It says recent enforcement has involved thousands of arrests nationwide. But available analysis consistently indicated only a small minority of those. Is that a italics now? Oh, is it not? Is it maybe? Weird, right? Yeah, looks a little funky. No, no, no, it's not. It's just that's that's perplexity showing its bias. Small minority of those. That's a tone of those in ice detention arrested by ice and late 2025 and early 2026. Have violent criminal convictions. Most of no convictions. But when they think small minority, they indicated previously that's 8%. That still means a lot of human beings. Yeah, yeah, that's a lot of violent human beings. Like if you could sign a piece of paper that said that, you know, we're going to allow a bunch of people into this country. Most of them have no violent convictions, but about 8% of them are monsters. Evil, sociopathic, murderers, drug dealers, 8% is a giant ass fucking number. Right. That's a giant ass number. Right. The real problem is that they have to do this. This is a real problem because the Democrats did what they did. They did a crazy thing. They opened the border up and told people the border was open. And then when people tried to stop them from doing it, they used court orders. Like what was that thing they did down in Texas at the border? Oh yeah, because Abbott tried to put up something, something like wall or something like that. They said you can't stop this. Yeah. Which is, we didn't even, we can't stop people from breaking the law. Like what are you saying? There's a method to stop this and you don't want it stopped. Because the dirty secret is the census doesn't count citizens. Counts everybody. It even counts illegals. So if you live in a community that's half illegal aliens, you get way more congressional seats from that district than if you are in a community where all those people don't count. They said that I think they said that California, if the census did, see if we can find out what the number is. But if the census did not count illegal immigrants in California, I think they would lose a shocking number of seats. Right. Which is kind of crazy. That's crazy. You're rigging politics by moving humans into place. Yeah. Well, you got to, you got to do something. It's a very, something that no one really talks about a lot is like the Democrats, every single minority group shifted right in 2024. Right. Every single one. And no one really is like actually trying to figure out why that's happening. They're like, well, if we just import more people, we can overcome that deficit. But they could. They could. If it was successful, they could overwhelm the political process. They could make it just like it's California forever where you get half the people are like massively disgruntled and so confused about the politics. But they're stuck there. And that would be the whole country, who would essentially be that kind of a thing. And then they do what they do in England and what they're doing in Canada, it was a slowly start clamping down on your rights. Right. And England starts arresting people for social media posts. Well, you know, I hopefully that the free speech stuff is so ingrained in who we are as a people because England, like at the end of the day, that it's not like that country was built on that principle. This is says that there would only lose two house seats. It says, California would lose, I call it Canada. Yeah. It's like some Freudian would lose an order of one to two house seats if possible. If people in the state without legal status were not counted in the census, use for a appointment based on recent expert simulations. Right. What's that? Here's the thing. Like how many illegals are in California? Let's find that out. Like what is the estimated number put that in there, Jamie? What's the estimated number of illegals in California? I don't know where I'd be without this kind of shit. Yeah. Yeah. I just hooked on using like perplexity for any question I have all throughout the day. It's like my smart friend. It's like better Wikipedia because it can really like you can use it as like way better than Wikipedia. Yeah. You can ask the entire internet. And sometimes it does catch some bullshit articles in there. It says it might be this and you're like, wait a minute. What? Let me go to that article. That might be bullshit because it's only pulling from the internet, right? Undocumented. 2.8 million in 2007. That's what yeah, that would be around two seats, right? Because there's like 30 million in California. Something like that. Yeah. Yeah. That makes a difference. And then you do the same thing in Seattle. You do the same thing in wherever, you know, places you have massive numbers of undocumented people. Kyle Ohio is a big one. You know, this is one of the reasons why they had this thing where like why are there so many Haitians in Ohio? Well, we like think they just decided Ohio is a spot and they all had a group WhatsApp chat. Yeah. No, probably somebody's moving them. Yeah. This is a sweet state. It was funny when the Somalian thing when when Walt was like, this is white supremacy. It was crazy. And was like, hey, but then who's the most supreme white man in the state governor? You bitch. Yeah. That's a crazy Freudian slip. But it's also like what a crazy attempt at misdirection. Why why men commit most crimes? Yeah, that's part. I think I told you this part of the reason why I think like minority groups are shifting away because it's like one that I don't think that's something the whole victimhood mentality. That's not something that minority groups really experience or like value, especially not minority groups that are immigrants that are in the middle of the hustle. Right. We got to go to work. We got to overcome. That's the whole point. Yes. Regardless of the hand you're dealt, you got to just play it and overcome. And so that victimhood mentality really kind of pushes people away from the left, I think, in that manner. And then like, you know, when Biden was like, you know, if you don't vote for me, you're not black. It's like, that's kind of how they that's kind of how they view the minority vote. It's a hostage vote. It's like vote for us or else. Yeah. It's like no one likes that energy coming towards them. And the lash out and go in a different direction. Such a wild thing to say. I mean, unbelievably funny. Unbelievably funny. Man, it's just I can't believe you fucking said it. He's so and he said it without fucking crazy pulled back face. And it's like, this is madness. Whatever they did to him to make him look try to look younger. Yeah. Doesn't work. Kids. No. Oh my god. All the know what you used to look like. You're on TV all the time. And also you you have a completely different face like your face is different. Like you're all your everything's pulled back and looks. It doesn't look like anybody normal. That's 80 years old. No, all the all plastic surgery ages like you look like an alien when you're old. There's just no way around it. I don't know who lip fillers are for because I don't know any guy who's like, yeah, I like that look like that much. But it's it's crazy how they age. The facial fillers are crazy too because sometimes those things become a problem and then you got to get them removed. And well now they're doing that buckle fat thing. Oh, when they look like ghouls. Why would they do that? Why would they take fat out of their face? Like fat in your faces. What makes you look youthful? One of those ladies going to look like when they hit their 60s. They're going to look like ghosts. Maybe. His or things will be all sunken in. By the time they're 60, I think medicine is going to be at a level where they're going to be able to reverse aging. They're pretty close to be able to do that. They've already done some stuff with mice and they've they've done some stuff where they're they're understanding like what jeans are causing you to have these problems. What things could be done to mitigate it. And they're treating aging not like an inevitable aspect of life, but as like a disease that you get over time. Right. And so to like accepting the fact that your body's going to age at a very specific rate. And then when you're 60, it's going to suck. When you're 70, it'll suck worse. Instead, it's like what's causing that? Let's reverse what's causing it. And you know, essentially if you can do that. And I think they can. If it's they can't do it now, they're going to be able to do it. If whoa, Jesus. What happened? Okay, but this is like day one. This lady just had surgery. I popped up on my feet a few times. She's 69 almost 70. Holy shit. That lady does not look even close to 69 or 70. Is that true? I'm not kidding. Is that true? Is that doctor crazy? Yeah. She's making it up. She's like, I'm fucking 40. It just it just feels like one of those human dolls. What did she look like before? There you go. There's the before. That's the same lady. Bro, that's crazy. You could pick her up at a bar. And then you're like, why do you smell old? God, that's that's good. Yeah, that old people smell. Yeah, the mouthball to spray perfume all over their body. Oh, I remember there was this episode of that show autopsy. Do you ever see that show? No, there's this guy Michael Baden and he's a famous forensic scientist that like examines cases and says this is actually a murder and he catches people. And one of them was this guy who was really crazy. And his wife died. Oh, this is his wife or a lady he knew died. I forget the circumstances, but he kept the corpse in his house and had fashioned some kind of an artificial vagina that he attached to the corpse and then had cases of perfume. And so apparently the body just kept looking at is this like an older guy older story? Yeah, yeah, it's like some Cuban doctor and it was like some girl he fell in love with and then she died. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it wasn't his wife, right? No, it was like it was like in a plaster case adult thing and it was there. Yeah, and then fucking crazy. It had a mask on it. So it was like a corpse that was like years old with a mask on it and an artificial vagina and cases and cases of perfume. So this guy's just fucking cover this thing, perfume, getting his fucking. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you gotta find that you gotta find the picture of it. He even inserted a paper tube into or decrepit corpses of the surface of a vagina for making love. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. That's to the fake vagina. I think it was, yeah, it was like something he made. Like he made something. Dude, people were made to think the fuck people go through lengths to get the rocks off. That's crazy. It's like ingenuity. That's like, man, if you had that energy towards anything positive, you could get to Mars. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can finish the first. Find us a photo of the corpse. There we go. Yeah, so this is carl tanzler. That's a different guy. What is the different one? But he did the same thing. Oh, God. Yeah. He West. Same thing. Seek we took her body or use French plaster preserve her skin, rigged wires and hangers to support her skeleton, and then pump to continue his stream of perfume to mass a stench of the scent of decay, disturbing arrangement continued for seven years, till it's finally discovered by her sister. Oh, God. What a horror story that is. Oh, God. You find your sister's body and it's just, there's a continual stream of perfume to keep people from knowing is a rotted body up there. Oh, God. He did it for years. God meant her fucked. Well, you know, and any sort of like weird predator will end up in that situation where they can do their thing, right? So like if you like, fuck dead bodies, you're going to be in a corpse. Like, there's like a like female pedophiles just become middle school teachers. That's what they do. Cheese. Carl Tansler. Oh, God. And that's Dr. Michael Badden, the HBO show. That show is awesome, man. Oh, and he did Epstein's autopsy. Yeah. Yeah. He's one of the ones that said that the wounds were consistent with ligature strangulation, not with hanging. Yeah, we talked about this last time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, so I recorded my special on the 25th of October, and I have a bunch of Epstein jokes in there, and in the meantime, they were, they were said they released the files, and I was like, Oh, no, but they still haven't released them. And I was like, Oh, thank God, the joke still. I was like, Oh, my God. Thank God. Because I have like at least two separate times where I bring them up, because it was so, it was even bigger back then. Well, it's going to go on for a long time. I suspect. I mean, they said they released them, but what did they release? No, they're still not all out yet. They're still released. Yeah. Yeah. Like it's we, the whole thing's weird. It reminds me, it reminds me of the onion article where they're like, Oh, CIA releases, they've been using a black highlighter this entire time. Like, it's like that. It's like, Oh, okay, you just just blacked out pages. Redacted the shit out of every time. Yeah. Yeah. So like, what did they release? Did they release something recently? No, they haven't released anything in a minute. They had that initial release where everything was blacked out, and it was that picture of Winnie the Pooh, which was hilarious. But isn't there talk about some new releases that are happening soon? Have they, it feels like everything's been drowned out by everything else been going on with like Somali, the Somalians and the ice shooting. It feels like that's completely drowned out. Anything about it. I think some of that's on purpose. Oh, 100%. 27 minutes ago, update story. Federal judge blocked the effort to force the release of more files. Okay. The federal judge, let's, we said it a little bit wrong. It's the federal judge blocked the lawmakers effort to force the DOJ to release the Epstein file. So they're trying to force the DOJ. They're already were forced to, they've missed deadlines. And a federal judge blocked them from forcing them to release it. So a federal judge said, No, you can't force them to release it, even though you can't paint on it. Yeah. You ran out of it. You stood outside that courthouse with a bunch of binders. We've got it. He wrote that he lacks jurisdiction to Oh, I see. I see. I see. Okay. That's a little different. So the federal judge, why does they rule that he lacks jurisdiction to appoint an outside expert to ensure the justice department complies with a law that makes all files pertaining to the prosecution, check every episode available for public view. Okay. That's different. It's still the law chest that they played and make sure it's still can't come out. It's pretty crazy impressive. But if you're a jurisdiction or if you're a federal judge, you can't, you have to do, you can't step outside of your boundaries. Don't they kind of just do that sometimes though? Yeah, but you're not supposed to. Well, just because some of them are unethical or some of them right. That's fair. Yeah. I don't understand all this. So I'm going to dig your double about it. Yeah. I'm going to be charitable about it. But I just don't understand how anybody can go to jail for sex trafficking when you don't have anybody they sex traffic to. Right. Like that don't make any sense. Like if I was Galein's lawyer, I'd be like, to who? To who? Like, how did he not do that? Like you want to tell me there's some sort of a compromised trial? How do you not have a lawyer that goes, who did she sex traffic to? Right. That's clearly there's some sort of backdoor deal that was like, Hey, because you spend this time in jail and we won't kill you. Well, of course. Yeah. Or also, she's working with them. Right. How do you how do you have, I mean, in any way, shape or form, how do you have a person convicted of a crime when there's like, especially that kind of a crime where there's a person that hires you or gives you money or that you use to get influence from and then you sex traffic to them. So there's another person involved and that other person is completely eliminated from the trial because what? Because they're billionaires because they're heads of state. Like they're powerful enough prominent scientists. What is going, like how is that? Okay. That doesn't even make sense that you could get through a whole trial like that. Yeah. But I think that's just a, I was saying this earlier. I think this is just a function of government. These like, intense like black male sex rings that everyone just kind of gets away with it. Oh, yeah. It seems like that's happening over and over and over. But it's like, look at this way. Imagine if you were selling hash. Right. And you had like pounds and pounds of hash at your house and you've been selling hash and you got caught selling hash. They charge you with distribution and you're like, okay, but distributed to who? Because you're only selling to like rich famous people. Right. You're only selling them to like heads of JP Morgan. You're selling all your hash to those guys. And they're like, well, who did he sell the hash to? Nobody. Somebody bought a hundred million dollars with a hash. And there's nobody. You have no, no purse. That doesn't make any sense. There's no crime. So he's didn't really sell it. You could say, it's asses it. But maybe intent to distribute what do you want to get them for actual distribution and selling of hash? He's got to sell it to somebody. Man, at least an undercover agent. Right. But like in this situation, it's like, did we ever really think anyone was really going to go to jail for this? I feel like with continual constant pressure, they have to, it has to slowly leak out. Man, I wish I was that optimistic about it. They've done a good job of, they've done a good job of it of keeping the names out of the press. Even after they said they would leak them. It says here FBI and DOJ records from 2019 reference about 10 individuals described as an alleged Epstein co-conspirators, including Maxwell and French modeling agent Jean-Luc Brunel, who died in French custody in 2022. That's a way to get out of it too. He's sold it to a dead guy. But it's also this is not saying that sold it to them. They're co-conspirators. So they were probably involved in facilitating. They're probably involved in acquiring these girls, making connections because that guy owned a modeling agency. So he's, or he's a modeling agent. Right. So that guy's getting him girls. So he's a co-conspirator. It's not saying that he was John. He was a John that was getting the girls. He was a co-conspirator. So there's at least 10 individuals who were also, which makes sense. If you have this giant black male ring, it's not going to be like one guy. I also find it funny. The whole, we marked that Mark Epstein guy. His brother came out of nowhere for a little bit. It's like fuck this. First of all, what do you mean a brother that just knows everything that happened? Because he came out and said that wasn't like the the email that was like, oh Clinton, a Trump son cl-, so Clinton's dick. He was like, no, bubble wasn't Clinton. But you didn't say he didn't suck someone's dick. He just was like, it wasn't Clinton. Trump sucks some guy named Bubba's dick. Yeah. Yeah. Some drunk driver. Yeah. Yeah. What is, will you just show him disappeared? Uh, that few of those people were protected by the 2008 non-prossecution agreement. Mmm. Oh, that's a little slap on the wrist, protected a bunch of people. Right. And so they continue to be protected. Is that the idea? Uh, that's where no, I don't know. No, no. Nothing's better in law than a technicality, huh? Yeah. That's a slippery one. So what did Epstein's brother wind up saying? He said it wasn't Bubba and then, which implied that he knew that he knew exactly what was going on on the island the whole time and it was just out and about. But he's still saying the Trump Suck someone's dick. Yeah. Yeah. And then he just straight up disappeared. What the fuck did he go? We just learned about him. Man, I believe a lot of things. I do not believe Trump sucks someone's dick. Because he doesn't do drugs. You know what I mean? When Charlie Sheen was saying he sucks some guy's dick, like, okay, Charlie's doing so much crap. It was out of his fucking mind. I feel like that level of power is a drug at that point. I mean, maybe I don't think so. I don't know. It's a very fun thing. It's going to get a Trump to suck a dick. It just doesn't seem that's a guy who's fucked up on drugs. That's like when did he was doing it? They were all doing drugs. It's a drug thing, right? Yeah. Unless you're a gay man, it's a drug thing to go around sucking dick. So we're assuming that Trump's been hiding the gay the entire not a chance in hell. That would be the most impressive hide of all time. Also, why would he do that? If you're if you're open in your gay, you decide what the fucking Democrats like that's the move. You probably do all the exact same things when you get in office. I'm trying to follow question and that does not know who's in charge of asking his face. It's thinking. Look at it. Look at it. It's thinking. You're laughing. You're laughing. I thought to blow up. I would stop. I'm talking drones about the hit the building. The mother ship's going to be on fire tonight. We get there. Oh, I'm so yeah. Jesus Christ, man. It's so funny. It's like it's it's an attempted cover up a corruption that would have been successful in the 70s. Right. Right. They pulled this shit off in the 70s of the 80s. Gone. What's the whole Franklin scandal? The sure. Yeah. They they killed that reporter. Yes. They killed that report. There was definitely some. Yes. The underage sexual thing going on there. And they were like dead. You and your son. That's what you get for fucking around. Yeah. But kill both of you there. Well, you know, Tucker's talked about this and a few other people talked about this. There's a bunch of secretly gay politicians. Oh, yeah. And then there's probably a bunch of secret pedophiles as well. Yeah. I mean, definitely for sure. There's definitely I like I I pulled that once on bottom of the barrel just secretly gay Republicans. Yeah. That was my thing. And then I was like, can you imagine how good that sex feels? Especially after you spent all day being like it's bad. It's wrong. Yeah. And that sex is extra hot because you're going to get God and your party at one time. Some twink with his converse on. Yeah. But yeah. And then you go back and be like family value. Like that level of I think there's a lot of them that are putting on a show. A lot of them. They're putting on an act and you you're never going to get to know who they really are. And that's why when something comes out, it's like shocking. They're all fucking weirdos. They're all weirdos. You have to be a weirdo to want to run the car. Oh, you have to be like this amazing person. Like it's two options. It's going to be Gandhi or you weirdo. Yeah. I mean, and think of pedophiles. We got to speak of the house. That was a pedophile for like eight years. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. A real one. A real deal pedophile. A real deal convicted pedophile. What was his name again? Haster. I think might have been haster. I think so. I feel like we should look that up. Yeah. I don't want to be like, Oh, haster was like a nice guy and we're calling a red ball. But what? Speak of the house. He was involved in a very big scandal of it. Yeah. Then his haster. Yeah. Yes. It was it was it was like some sandusky shit. It was at a school that he was teaching at exactly allegations that Senate scrawled a little bit. Senate candidate Roy Moore spent his 30s dating propositioning and sexually assaulting high school aged girls was shocking, but not without precedent. There have been plenty of congressmen who carried on sexual relationships with teenagers from Thomas Jefferson. That was back when people died when they were 18. Yeah. Uh, strong, thermon. Perhaps more dastardly, Illinois rep Dennis Haster served the speaker of the house from 99 in 2007. And a little further that says an additionally agreed that haster. It's atomized a fourth grade boy in a high school in a school bathroom and threatened him if you're before the salt. That's like sandusky stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Since the statute of limitation had expired on these crimes, haster was instead convicted of evading bank reporting requirements in order to secretly pay off his victims. That's so funny. He served 15 months in prison. That's it. Holy shit. That's so crazy to pay off your victims and not do it in cash. What a lot of money. Yeah. That's a lot of money. That's fair. I bet it was I bet it was quite a bit of money. Holy shit, dude. Yeah. And so it's fear the house one kid that got saw a fourth grade boy in a school bathroom. How many more did he do that too? How many just don't want the shame of it coming out publicly? How many guys are struggling with it right now? They're 35 years old. They don't want to tell that story. Right. That ruined their life because the speaker of the house fucked them. Crazy. Crazy. Crazy. And he so he's not alone. No. Right? No. That's the Franklin scandal. And there's no way that wasn't uncovered beforehand by people. Just the way the political machine works. But that's like sort of like you get me for this. I'll get you for this. So you keep that under wraps. You just have that in your back pocket. I think it's just part of that game that they play. Oh, for sure. It's like Game of Thrones. For sure. It's definitely really is. It really is like Game of Thrones. It's just a warehouse isn't like that. They're trying to get you. And also a house of cards. Right. It sucks that Kevin's basically got busted because that's your rule. I know. Right. But you know, you're so funny because thinking back on it, like if you looked out movies, I my genuine tape before he got busted for this is he plays the greatest villains. Yes. He's like the greatest villain actor of all time. It's the greatest creep. He's like a brilliant creep like with darkness behind his eyes. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then can turn it on the charm that Southern charm for the Kim. How about when he did that fucking weird video in front of the fireplace? Oh, dude. Like do you character? Right. Kill him with can. Right after right after the witness to his case died. Like another witness to his case died. Yeah. Like people were dropping or like flies around space either. Crazy. Real deal villain shit acting out the literal plot lines as the character being the character was tending the fire. Ghost to show you can still be a I mean, he's still a genius artist. Yeah. Yeah. Just like a amazing and in any time that you would have never gotten caught. Mm-hmm. Anyway, that's just how the machine worked. I mean, he's just one of those guys that got an immense amount of power and he was just a dick grab or like, good dick. And I bet a lot of guys were like, okay, that's the problem with wild pitches. You know, you you fucking swing at every pitch. You're gonna hit a few. Right. You know, but he's probably, you know, for all these guys that he grabbed Dix and said, you know, probably drunk probably fucked up. How many guys like let him suck their dick? A lot, I bet. I bet it was an effective strategy. Right. Especially for famous and all he did it to gay guys. But he was like the one guy that the story broke was a young teenager, right? Was he like 14 or something like that? Yeah. And they were working together or something like that. It was definitely a minor. But it's also like why isn't a teenager at a minor with a bunch of drunk gay guys like, hey, where's your dad? The fuck is going on? What are you doing there? But it's, you know, it's not excusing him for doing it. The thing about people in the gay community is they look very differently at teenage boy, gay teenage boy, men relationships. Then we do at like teenage girl men relationships. They look at it very differently. Like Milo got in trouble for that. Is Milo on my podcast was talking about this guy that molested him. He was like, trust me, I was the prototype. Right. That's what he said. That's a crazy thing to say. But they look at it differently. Oh, yeah. That's a, I remember someone was, I was living in LA and we had this gay dude who was sleeping on the, you know, we had a bed in the living room for guests to stay over. So he was see, he like lived there for like two months. And they were, we were watching call me by your name. And he, it's like a, it's like a, it's army hammer. And maybe it's shallower. I forgot. I was in an out. My roommates were watching it. But it's like about a gay story between older man and a, a younger boy. And yeah, he, he would say, he said this red like, he was watching it. Like, oh, this reads like a fan fiction of an older gay dude being in love with like a younger gay guy. Yeah, it's like a, I remember that. I remember him telling us that. And like, okay, that's interesting. I mean, it kind of makes sense. Right. Because we think very differently of like, like a high school football player that winds up banging a really hot science teacher. Yeah. You know, you're not mad. He's just like, this is crazy. That lady's crazy. She started five. She got two kids. She fucks his 17 year old boy in the bathroom. Like, yeah. Yeah. That's, I said, there are the female pedophiles become teachers. That is, that is what they do. They find the way. It's very, very, very different than the scenario of like the football coach that's banging the cheerleader. That's crazy. Yeah. That's my daughter. Lincham. Yeah. That's the way it grows. Yeah. It is weird. Yeah. It's like, yeah, with every, with every time there is that there's a South Park episode about it. Every time you hear that story about, you know, the, the, the older teacher, fucking the young boy. Yeah. Every guy's kind of like, nice. Yeah. Well, you know how the best joke about it was Zach Alfonakis said, do you hear the boy died? Yeah. His friends high-fived him to death. Man, that live at the purple onion. Oh, fantastic. That was, that was a, that was a fucking great special. What is he doing these days? I have no idea. Yeah. He was on that show for a while in FX baskets. That was really good about the cl- Louis Anderson, when the Emmy on it. He owns a farm somewhere. He has like a farm. That's, I think he's like, he's very smart. Have you ever talked to him? I've never met him. I've never. The only time I saw, I only saw my son live was at Brody's Memorial. Yeah. He was real tight with Brody. He, he is one of the ways that I found out that Brody was off his meds. He contacted me when, do you remember that one time when Brody got real kind of like, almost, almost aggressive crazy, when I was like yelling at people in the audience sometimes. And it got weird. It wasn't like performance already anymore. It was like, what's happening with Brody? And then he got back and he, he like bounced it out. Brody had like legit problem. Whatever it was, whatever his mental health issue was. Right. He needed medication. Like he was, he was legit crazy. And that contact to me, so it seems like Brody's office meds, so just don't engage with him. Damn. Damn. So it's like you got to kind of figure out a way to corral him, get him back on his stuff. But man, when he was in that main room, when he was in that main room and that credo, what was left of the crowd was rocking with him. It was just so much fun. Just watching him play drums. He came into the improv one night. We were doing a later show. So it was like a 10 o'clock show. And he was on late. And the show was kind of Peter now, you know, it does. And at the time, it was probably like about half full. And then it lays down and please welcome Brody Stevens. Brody takes his shirt off and starts swinging it around in the air like a flag. He goes through the crowd. Let's go energy. And like he just gets everybody fired up. He immediately breaks out the drumsticks, starts fucking drumming on the seat, and then starts telling jokes and just change the whole tempo of the room. Like everything lit up. It was awesome. It was like that's what Brody can do. Just with pure charisma and talent and just personality. And anytime I see him, like anytime I see a person in the audience like this, all arms crossed negative. That's all I can think. That's all I can think. It's like, wow, you are giving me negative energy right now for no reason. For no reason. You're at a show coming to enjoy it. You know, especially when you see it, because I cold open a lot, you see it like like you see people be like, why are you? Why do you come here like impress me? Like you're already here. Enjoy the energy. Sometimes for people to loosen up, you have the hardest job when you have when we do those Joe Rogan and Friends shows and you cold open. I've only cold open a few times over the last few years. Yeah. And it over the last 10 years. It's hard. You got to hypnotize those people. You got to slowly work your way into the rhythm of jokes. Oh, yeah. You get the sort of like, I like it because it's energy matching. You like to find out where they are, catch onto them and then bring them to the energy that you want. You know, it's really good at it. Yeah. Hans Kim. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Really good. I love it. It's just straight jokes. Uh-huh. It's just straight jokes. And he's funny, looking, you know, like he's like, he's got a big smile in his face. And he's having fun. You kind of get into his groove real quick. And you know, he did so many arenas with me and so many big places. And he was the perfect guy because he would just go, let me tell you something about myself. You know, right away, he would take control of the room. It was awesome. Derek's great at bringing him into it's fun watching. It's fun watching the different people like their different cold open strategy. Derek is just like getting everybody fired up. Yeah. Sightman and he's so lovable. You know, he's got again, so much charisma. Right. Yeah. But it's, the cold opening for as long as I have done and my career even pre-disk club, it's just it made me, I feel like so much stronger because like almost like running with ankle weights on. And then now, like leading up to me releasing too soon, I was like, oh, I was like all these spots I was getting at the end of the shows. These were material. This is all material that I tested at the beginning of Rogan and friends, which especially at the beginning of the club, a lot of people were like, wait, you're not Rogan talking to a friend. Like they thought they were coming to a live podcast, but you know, it took a while before the shows were like, oh yeah, this is a stand-up show. So really, yeah, people thought it was going to be a podcast. It's a very beginning. There were some episodes where you had to like introduce the concept of this is going to be stand-up. Crazy. Yeah. Now it's not like that. But like at the very beginning, for sure was, but like it was like, I felt my material was like battle tested. Well, it certainly is. I mean, that's the running with weights is a great analogy, because that's exactly what it is. Yeah, it makes the jokes so much stronger. You know what else is really good for your act is hosting. Yeah. Because you go up so often, like one of the things that really helped a lot of guys at the store was hosting potluck. Because you know, you have to, there's all this chaos. Someone just bombed, something crazy just happened. Someone just did something completely fucking insane. You have a chance to make fun of it. Reset the room. Reset the room. And there's a comfort level that comes out because you're essentially doing stand-up from 8 p.m. to 2 a.m. Yes. Yeah. When I first started, when I lived in, first was a door guy in Hollywood. Derek was booking the madhouse and I would come down and host the weekend shows. So every day at host from every weekend or two weekends a month, I would host from five to two in the morning because you'd host the open mic afterwards. And you just host the entire night. It's a full day is worth of hosting. That's awesome. Yeah. It's like, it's, it's, because the opening spots suck, but like they make you better. It's the ones that suck that make you better. It's definitely, well, you realize like where the sloppy parts of your bits are. Like you're saying, I mean, like, you know, like, it gets you. You're like, oh, right. Like, whereas the, when the crowds pop in and they're laughing and everything they want to laugh, you can get that through and it will actually get a laugh. But then when like, it's quiet, it's the beginning of the show, you realize, oh, this bit sucks. Right. Like, oh, I got to bring this bit to the garage. Yeah. Yeah. I got I got to, I got to not put it up front. What was I thinking? I got to tighten this motherfucker up. But it's, you know, there's plenty of other spots. That's the beautiful thing. I mean, we're running four shows a night every night. And so, and then, and there's so much around the scene. There's so much. I was, I was telling someone in LA, it's like, oh, if I choose, if I chose not to get up 10 spots in front of an audience member in a week at the very least, then I chose that because it's so easy just go on and get spots. There's so much. With people and like around, and downtown alone, there's like 12 dedicated comedy rooms. It's insane. Do you see, was it rap report that got kicked off of a show at Cap City? They canceled the show? They canceled the rap report. And what, let me see what the post was because they said something like there's another big club that will have you or something like that. Yeah. They're insinuating that we would have them and that these racists and we would have them. Yeah. Oh, yeah. They just assumed, they assumed the mothership is full of racist people. They don't. Yeah. People do. But the guy that owns that is the guy that owns helium. Yeah. But no, not just that. I think that's pervasive around comedy for sure. It's dancing. They just, they're pretending they think that there's no way they think that if you just look at the lineup, there's no one's looking at the lineup. They're really, they're really like, oh, Joe and Tony support Trump. So this must be filled with racist people. That's who it is. What did they say? Can you pull up the, I think they phrased it in an interesting way. So, that's Austin for Palestine coalition. That's a rap apport. It's pretty funny. That's a rap before he's done canceled. Thank you, Cap City comedy and helium management for listening to Austin and canceling the racist provocateur Michael rap report show at your establishment. And so, a Michael rap apport, there's a, the, is make sure. Yeah. Yeah. That's the, the caption is like but there's another club that insinuating that we would take. But what is this? This is just Austin comedy. That's just someone's account. It's just someone's account. Yeah. That's when I first moved here. That was when I, that's how I figured out where all the open mics are. But they're, but they're not a big accusing us. It's pretty sure there's another club or large venue space that will welcome you that aren't run by helium. So, but there's a lot of places that that's not necessarily they're saying us. If you still want to make a stop in Austin, just let them know. Most of us here are friendly and won't use politics and hate to cancel silence performers. So, that seems like they're kind of saying like, hey, Michael, come do another spot. Do it somewhere else. I don't think they're accusing him of that. Right. Right. That sounds more supportive of him coming here and say most of us are friendly and won't use politics and hate to cancel silence performance. So, that's not helium saying that. I guess he's, is he like, I mean, I guess he's outspokenly pro-Israel for this to happen. Yeah. I'm not paying attention that, dude. Because I feel like a lot of it is needy. You know what I mean? There's a lot of like trying to get attention to hard. Right. It's like, he's like, he's not a dumb guy. He's got some really good points. But the problem is if you try too hard and you're doing it all the time, then the good points miss me. Right. They miss me because you're already connected to all that other silly shit. They're just lost in the sea. Yeah. Yeah. Which is good and bad depending on whether or not you want to be taken seriously. Right. I don't want to be taken seriously. So like if I do UFO shows or big footage, I'm like, good. Oh, he believes in dragons. Good. Good. Don't take me seriously. Yeah. But when you're talking about something like Israel and Palestine, I guess because it said something citizens for Palestine, like, yeah, it had to have been. They're not canceling. The coalition for Palestine is not going out of their way. I had no idea anybody was calling Michael Rappaport racist. Oh, well, yeah. I don't I did. This is the first Michael Rappaport news. I've heard in years. If I'm going to be honest, I put no idea that like there was an organized campaign to stop his shows. There must be. If it's happening here, it's happening everywhere. Right. Has to be. Okay. Since early November, our coalition sent several emails. That's all took. Says that we're ignored. While employees had privately shared that they're uncomfortable. Oh, they privately shared that with anti-Palestinian hate-monger Rappaport being hosted. Management seems unwilling to listen to their community. That's not necessarily their community. That's just some people in the community. Rappaport isn't just a fanatical Zionist with political views we disagree with. He's a racist who cruelly mocks dead civilians and children. He mocks immigrants and supports ICE detentions of people whose viewpoints he dislikes. Additionally, as a repetition for being generally disliked by people he's worked with, doxing his political opponents and has been accused of working with Fox News to spread fake propaganda. Okay. This was like a lot. Yes. Yeah. Who wrote this Austin for Palestine Coalition? So maybe it's just in Austin. Okay. That said, awesome. Yeah. And then they got him out of cap city. Yeah. But so what did they go back up as a top of that thing? What is the original? No, no, no, no, the original thing that I read. It said he's mocked. He's a racist who cruelly mocks dead civilians and children. Is that true? I don't think that's true. We'd have to go through his thing. Yeah. That's the thing. It's like when you say something like that, yeah. You just have to take that for face value that he does that. If you want to believe that, I've never seen anything like that. I would imagine that if he did something like that, it would go viral. Right. Maybe not mocking dead children. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Maybe not. Maybe probably this day and age. Yeah. If he's famous enough for sure. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Straight up mocking. If you're mocking dead children. Look, look at the people that mock Charlie Kirk, the fucking hate came strong. Oh, yeah. They they they all they all like lost their jobs. They shut the heat. Yeah. Immediately. Immediately. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It is it is like the internet makes people very comfortable with putting their initial emotional reaction out for everyone to see. And it's like there's something that Derek talks about. It's like we got to go back to the times when like people were like, Oh, you can't post yourself with a red cup. Because like a job might see that you won't get the job. Like that used to be a drinker. Yeah. Yeah. They used to be like an out people like just full on sketches of stuff like people dying and like, you see so many people die just constantly too. So it's like everyone's just desensitized everything. There's a lot of desensitization. There's a lot of people that also live in these echo chambers. And they think when they say thing like, well, who's that one lady that was a she was a CEO somewhere. I should very high level position somewhere. And she posted on her Instagram story, I think something like that. She posted rest and piss. Charlie Kirk. Right. Like, like you're a regular person with a real job. Yeah. You're talking about a guy who got murdered and you just wrote rest and piss on the internet because in their bubble, they were saying that kind of stuff. They thought it was cool thing to say. Yeah. Your your your algorithm is so designed to just show you what things that agree with you. Right. So everyone gets more and more like, oh, everyone believes this. Everyone or because everyone around or everyone I perceive to be around me, yeah, believes everyone really, it's just it's all like half of its fake. Most of it is just some Pakistani guy. Right. Yeah. Somewhere with like a million new AI where you can constant. No, no, no, the new one where you can be any celebrity. And it looks exactly like that celebrity. So all your movements, you could be like you know, Mike from Stranger Things. Damn. And it's super accurate. Damn. Like crazy. We're getting to the point where like surveillance videos won't be admissible in court. Like it's going to be it's going to be up to there. It'll well, it'll all have to be on the blockchain. But even that like, I don't understand the block. Yeah. Who knows who knows? I mean, manipulated. Yeah. So if you can find that video of because there was one performer who did a series of different people from Stranger Things. He did like L from Stranger Things and Mike from and it's fucking nuts. So the same person just moving their hands around and talking and they look exactly like the other person. Right. So now you're seeing heavily manipulated content like you unless you go out of your way to look for another opinion, you're just going to become entrenched in your own opinion. That's sort of the problem with what's happening right now is like or entrenched in the opinion that they want. That yes, they want to promote you're just sort of like, oh, you're just being fed this constant line of like bullshit. You gotta do some like algorithm cleanses. That's what like fuck like you know, I could go on juice cleanses. You gotta do that with your algorithm. You gotta. I think honestly, what you gotta do is stay offline. Yeah. You're gonna get got no matter what your algorithm is eventually gonna catch you again. It's like I'm gonna do a little hair when this time. Right. And then next thing you know, you're a full on hair when junky. Right. Right. For me, it's like there's so many videos of people getting killed by alligators and lions. They're fake. And they just look a little off like the line jumps in the car and pulls them out. You're like, no, they're like something's wrong with this. The way people react right now, the reactions of people in the background don't match. Right. That's what's because it used to be you could see the fingers and the fingers would be all fucked up, but they got the fingers pretty down now. They're getting better at that now. It's like you got to look in the, if the people in the background aren't reacting, you're like, okay. Yeah. Like if I was people in the background react to a, would a react to a guy getting eaten by a lion? I guess they could probably fix that though the prompt. Well, that's the next generation. That's the next generation. I think it's just, you gotta just ask it to do a better version. Keep correcting it, asking it to do better. Kind of fix that. Have you ever done that with a video where you asked it to keep fixing things? It gets overloaded and it just gets worse and worse and worse. If you ask it to fix the, it's not good at making an edit on the video you already have. So you can be like, let's say it'll just generate another thing and because it's making a video about a video, everything gets fucked up. Look at this. Holy shit. This is crazy, dude. That one looks kind of AI, but this is like a lot of the AI. That looks a little, a little smooth in the face. So it's probably better for it to do it again, run it again from the beginning. So you know, the first couple, the first couple ones might get you. It's one, when, when one seems like obviously really fake, you know, the thing is too, I think it's really good with young people. Like him, it looks fake for some reason. Yeah, when I got there. But then you realize they all look fake after you see one looks fake, but not that fake. It's just if they did the lighting a little better, you know, it looks a little too bright. I want, but yeah, see, I wonder if our perception, because the first three look real, I wonder if our perception would change if they put the one of the guy that looks fake first. You feel what I'm saying? Like, I don't know because this one looks real. Like that looks like her. Like if you just had that one and had her saying about much of things, I would think it's her saying a much things. That's well, that's fucking crazy. We're fucked. We're fucked. Man, anybody doesn't think we're fucked isn't paying attention. It's going to get super weird. Yeah. And how much, how much of that are they going to use on us in the news? You know, oh, yeah. Oh, it's, yeah, it's the news is already, the news is already fucked, but it's all, I was thinking about this the other day. How it's crazy that because our algorithms are so different, I think this is why everyone gets so charged over news things now. Is news is the only thing we have in common anymore? Like there's not really a show that like everyone's watching or like a set of shows that everyone's watching. Your algorithm sends you things that you like. So you're completely disconnected, entertainment-wise to the people around you. And the only thing you really have in common is what's going on in the world. Right. Because that's the only thing that's consistent in your opinions on it. What side are you on? Yes. Because everything becomes divided. Yes. And you have to have a take on everything. Yeah. Vaccines, food pyramid, Gaza. Yeah. Everything gets to take it. Oh, yeah. Oh, we were cooked as like companies have to do it. Yeah. I've been saying like we've been cooked as a country. I've known we've been cooked as a country ever since Ben and Jerry's had a take on Gaza. It's like there's no reason for this. Yeah. There's no reason for this. Well, there's a lot of company trying to sell stuff. There's a lot of incentives for companies to like whatever. What is that? ESG score? Is that what it is? What is the score that they give? Like so companies have DEI scores that yeah, like for favorable loans and for government money. It gets real weird when you start intertwining the it gets real communist. ESG score evaluates a company's sustainability and ethical impact, measuring its performance in environmental, social and governance areas such as carbon footprint, labor practices, and board diversity to help investors and stakeholders access long term risk and potential, which is me assess long term risk and potential calculated by specialized agencies like MSCI and sustain the will sustain the litigps scores off from zero to 100 or letter grades gauge how well a company manages risks in these non financial areas influencing reputation access to capital. This is what's important and long term financial performances. So climate change impact, resource use, waste pollution, energy efficiency, employee relations, diversity and inclusion, labor standards. So you're essentially forcing the company to act a certain way. You can't do it completely as a meritocracy. You have to have a representative board of people, which a lot of people agree with. None of those people are exceptional. None of the people are exceptional at their job that agree you should have specific categories of race or gender replace meritocracy. Right. No one really good male or female black, white, Asian, whatever. No one really good at their job wants that. No, no, because that just gets in the way of the job. It's like often like work up worry about the social score. Yeah, that. Yeah, fuck off. That's kind of what we're like heading towards, right? Well, it's left. So now with Trump at our in office, there was a guy who was a CEO of some company that was talking about the gigantic shift in dealing with the government that had occurred right after Trump took office. He was like it was instantaneous like all the restrictions and regulations and this is one of the problems with California in particular. It's incredibly over regulated. So it's really difficult to do anything, which is one of the reasons why so few people have even began attempting rebuild their fucking house. Right. These regulations everywhere for everything. It's just overregulated within the government by a lot of that land or are they trying to buy that land right now in the palisades? It's I don't think it's government. I think there was people that were interested in doing like low income housing and then there was like whether they were going to carve out things without their speculators and there's that famous video of newsroom standing in front of the rubble of a burning house. There's been some discussions. He's doing that little dance. Remember that? Yeah. What a sociopath. What a freaky dude. He's running for president. There's no way he's not. Yeah. I mean, absolutely. Absolutely. Really for president. Good luck, dude. You think there's a lot of fucking fraud in Minnesota. Just wait till they start digging deep into the fraud in California. It's going to take an army of people to do. It's going to take a long time, but look man, there's so much money missing. They spent $24 billion on the homeless and they can't account for it. Right. Isn't it true that Gavin knew let's find out this because I saw this whole article about this that said Gavin News of vetoed a bill that would do an audit of where the $24 billion to the homeless went. Well, if their goal was to create more homeless with that money, they did a great job. They did a great job. That's fantastic job. The crazy thing is they're literally incentivized to have more homeless because the more homeless people they have, the more money they get. Which is what? And then you see the salaries of the people that are working on it. Coley on noir, my friend, this second amendment advocate, who's a lawyer. He was the first guy to tell me about that because he's a lawyer and he was in San Francisco and he was like, why is there so many homeless people here? It's like they need more money like is it? And his friend who is a lawyer goes, no, no, no, no, no. This whole thing is a racket. The more homeless people you have, the more you have to fund the homeless initiative. And then you have this entire ecosystem that's built around the homeless. Right. And it's just money's going to executive. Millions and millions of in California. $24 billion. Okay. David Spade was talking about it. This really happened. He blocked bills for an audit multiple times by part of the bipartisan bill, AB 2903 unanimously passed 72 to zero in the assembly 40 to zero in the Senate and would have forced annual public reports on where the money went and knew some veto did. Is there no system in the state? Because it's like if the president vetoes in a at a federal level, I'm pretty sure the I think it goes back if it goes back to the Senate at a house, they can do a two thirds vote to pass it anyway. I don't know. There is legislative ways to override a veto this veto federally. I don't know. I don't know about a state level. It says Gavin Newsom also vetoed similar bills, AB 27570 and AB 2093. Wow. That is crazy. That money just gone. 20 billion plus dollars in missing homeless money went. That is really wild, man, that you would veto that that it passes unanimously. And you're like, no, play that's fucking gangster dude. That's why you become a governor. It's probably a good move. If you're really shitty, a smayer of a place like San Francisco and you ruin it, better be the governor. Yeah, and stop the investigation. Stop all the fucking loophole. You know, I would call that good game play. I've renew some as far as that is what you sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like look, I like looking at politics from an outside perspective. That's some good game play right there. If it's a game, that's what exactly what you should do. Yeah, it's a great move. Yeah. And now you're and now you sort of can launch yourself as this anti-Trump guy and you're like, it's trying to get on this pod. The problem with that dude is the presidential run is coming. He lies so much. He doesn't remember that he lied. Like he gets busted on the like, we've never used a term Latinx because Latinos do not like that Latinx bullshit. No, you want to fucking alienate the Mexican American community. Start calling them Latinx. They're like, which what the fuck are you saying? Well, that's fundamentally a gendered language. Yeah, fundamentally against their language. Yeah, that's the whole point. There are female and male things in their language. It's a gendered language. Yeah, yeah. It has to be an ex crazy. That's crazy. Stop. The really crazy thing is, you know, we were talking last night with Jimmy Karst friend. What was his name? I forgot his name. Sorry, sir. Fun guy. Interesting guy. But we got to talking about the different people that lived in America before Columbus got here, before Cortez got here, before all these Spanish explorers turn the entire country into a Spanish-speaking Catholic country, which is really nuts, man. You know, you always talk about colonizing. Like those people in Mexico, oh, we respect their religion, their culture. That's the culture of their oppressors from just a few hundred years ago. Right. They lost a hundred different native languages, man. They had so many languages in what is now Mexico, but wasn't even Mexico until 1820. Like whatever it was, whatever they called it in the different areas, they had like over a hundred different languages. I just lost in the wind because the fucking conquistadors came through. Yeah. And outnumbered, they were able to do that. Bro, crazy. Crazy. Crazy. Bro, they had 13 muskets. That's all they had. 600 dudes, 13 muskets. They burned the boats and took over Mexico. Crazy. Crazy. Crazy. Crazy. And then to this, but here's the gift of gab too. We're just able to convince Montezuma that they were gone. Well, they showed up with metal. Yeah. They were wearing armor and they're riding horses. And they're like, this is crazy. These guys are riding horses. And there's like a famous, what was it? La Malinche was like a was like a female native American or native to the area who would like help them take them down. Oh, there's quite a few people that helped them. What they were very clever. What they did because there wasn't united tribes because the Aztecs were absolutely brutal. One of the Spanish chroniclers, some forget his name, something Diaz, but one of these Spanish chroniclers before the arrival of Cortez, he was there at the celebration of the completion of one of the temples. I think it was to nochitlan. And they killed somewhere between 20,000 as the low end and 80,000 as the high end. 20,000 to 80,000 people sacrificed in a four day ceremony. That's pretty gang. So these are the people that were there. So those are not loved people. Right. Right. So it was really easy for them to get the other tribes and go, Hey, guys, we got horses. We got 13 muskets with your help. We can take them down and we could speak Spanish. Yeah. Carnitas. That's so wild. It is a fucking Mexican word, but it's a Spanish word. Yeah. It's like this, the language. They had names like North American, Native American names. One guy was a cacao lightning god. That was his name. I did a whole bunch of research on these people because I was just got fascinated because one of the things about the Aztecs is a lot of these super complex temples, they didn't build them. They found them. Oh, yeah. We talk about they called it the place where the gods were born. Yeah. These sort of civilizations that clearly probably existed. Because this is something that I think about is like, okay, so do you know the the story of the Akimana Persian Empire succession? I don't know it in detail, but I'm aware of a lot of it. Right. So you have Cyrus. He has two kids, Ken Bicey's and Bardia. He splits up the realm between the two. Ken Bicey's goes off to conquer Egypt, but he's like, well, Bardia's popular. So let me secretly kill him and then go off to Egypt. A magi priest then impersonates Bardia, takes over the Akimana Persian Empire. He's the ruler now. Ken Bicey's sort of dies on the way back mysteriously. And then a Akimana nobleman named Darius is like, hey, this is a magi imposter, kills Bardia. He's now ruling. Darius leads the Akimana Persian Empire to be as big as it can be, and he's the father of Zerks, he's the bad guy in 300. So that's, but that is the only official narrative store we have that from a first, like a primary source. And the only reason we have that is because Darius carved that story in himself into a rock relief. It's called the Bihistun relief. So that story is basically propaganda, but then 50 years later gets picked up by Herodotism that becomes the story of the ascension, right? There's no other primary source than what happened there. You just have to take Darius's word for it. Yeah. And that's in the fifth century. And the only reason we know that is because someone carved it into a rock. Right? Like we're not carving anything into rocks now. So if, yeah, so if something, let's say like something happens to the internet tomorrow and it disappears and then our civilization just vanishes off the earth, a couple people survive, and they build a whole new civilization. There's all those lines. Is that writing or is that a erosion? I believe that's writing. I haven't really, yeah. Go back to that primary, the original, original in. Okay. I think it's writing. It looks like cuneiform. And it's the way it's, yeah. But that's the only reason we know something that happened from that time is because this exists. And we have no idea if it's true. Yeah. We have no idea if it's true, but no one's even carving anything into stone for us. Right. So yeah, look at it. Yeah. There's no way. How dope is that line? Yeah. Look how cool that looks. Look how cool that looks. That's how people used to write things down, man. Right. A kin AI, like find, there's got to be some of these. Like I know there's one from Easter Island that they can't decipher. I've seen that one. No. Graham Hancock explained it. And what he said was essentially the island, it was a very small island. They got rated by slavers. And they took everyone except for like a hundred people. And the people that they took in enslaved, they were the ones who knew how to read this language. And then this language was lost forever. Right. There's one piece of like wood. Yeah, that's it. Where it's written on. Look how dope their language looks. Like zoom in. I'm like, how crazy is that, man? Just like, what are they saying? And we don't know. Like I wonder if they could throw that through AI and get sort of an understanding of what these symbols were. But you'd have to have a base like that was the thing about the Rosetta Stone. The Rosetta Stone really helped people in Egypt because you're like, oh, this is how it's written in Greek. And this is okay. Now we know what it's said in multiple languages. Now we get an understanding of it. Yeah. But so the overall point being though is like in our time of the internet disappears and we're gone. There's nothing from this time that's really being recorded. It'll just be lost. Oh, yeah. All the hard drives have gone forever. Yeah, just be lost. We'll have to relearn things. Yeah. But our time, the Americans, there'll just be some ancient thing that people might not know, not know ever existed. It says about the, it's called the wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, a glyph base script from Easter Island remains undecided despite over a century of study. Imagine you're studying it for a century. Yeah. You can't figure out language. People's whole lives have been dedicated to this. No one knows exactly what it says. As all attempts to translate it fully have failed. And with scholars debating, if it's true writing or proto writing, as it used as a memory aid, a memory aid. Yeah, lines alternate direction off and upside down. Oh, so you're that's so hard. Every, even the direction is ever changing. You're not writing right to left. You're just kind of going wherever you want with it. What is the latest on the Voynich manuscripts? Has anybody thrown that through AI to try to see if it makes any sense? You know about that? Yeah. Was it, were they found on a guy? Was that one of them? No, it's some weird book. And the question is whether or not this book is just complete gibberish and nonsense or whether it's some lost language. And where it's it's really detailed too. What was it found? It's a good question. I don't remember. Published Nabi Cypher is that what it's called? Published November 26, 2025 in Cryptology by science journalist Michael Greshko introduced the Nabi Cypher which uses 14th century Italian playing cards and dice to encode Latin or Italian text into glyphs mimicking the Voynich manuscripts, Voniches. This Cypher replicates key statistical features like glyph frequencies, word lengths, grammar rules suggesting a similar medieval method could have generated the original 15th century text, although it does not decode it. Wow. Have you seen it? See you find images of it? Yeah, freaky. Where was it found? That's a really good question. Let's find that out. The Voynich ninja. There's like groups and dedicated to this. People are obsessed with it. I mean, this is a fun thing to be obsessed with. Just do me a favor and just go back to perplexity and say how was it discovered? Yeah. I'm curious. Because I feel like someone had it and someone bought it from someone. I thought it could have been wrong. I thought it was found on a body. I could be wrong about that. I might be thinking of another thing. It was rediscovered in 1912 by Polish American rare books dealer Wilfred Voynich. Okay. He named them so what a clever guy. I like that. Fuck it. Something of mine. My mind. Bitch. They say you died. The second time you died is when someone says your name less. So we're just keeping him alive. He acquired it from the Jesuit college in France, Frascati, Italy as a part of a batch of 30 manuscripts to screetly sold and mixed amidst the Jesuits, financial difficulties. How many of these motherfuckers in the Vatican are sitting on some shit? They don't have to sell. Change the world. Change the world. Carbon dating places its creation around 1404 to 1438, likely in northern Italy. Emperor Rudolph to bought it in the late 1500s for 600 gold doots, possibly from John D. It later passed to Jacobus. How about this guy's name? Jacobus Horsike dep penance. Decent in European stuff. That's feels like next. You can't even. The problem is there's some names like Yawana Junchechek. If you saw the way it's written, there's no way you would pronounce it. Any of those Eastern European names, it's like how did you even get that? Stayed in Jesuit hands until 1912. He publicized the undecided Cyphered Codex, now at Yale's, Binachy, Binachy, Library, Sparking Global Interest despite failed decoding attempts. Pull up some images of it so you can get see what it looks like. It's real weird man. It's real weird and it has detailed illustrations of like plants and stuff. Oh here we go. Let's hear his little video. So you could see how cool it looks when they're opening up the book. Anything that you're getting that's a book that's from the fucking 1400s. Where 1200? When is it from? 1500s. So 1400s. Any book that you're getting from the 1400s is fucking wild as it is. Just imagine these fucking people living back then writing this shit down with a feather. Just touching it with their bare hands. Yeah, you have to. It's actually worse to do it with gloves. Really? Yeah, they found out that gloves, the rubber is more abrasive than your finger. The oils of your fingers are actually more protective or something along those lines. Wow. Look how cool that looks. Yeah. And they don't know if that's a real language. That's what's nuts. You can't decode it. This is a good YouTube rabbit hole. It's a good one. Yeah. It's an interesting one because people say it's a hoax, but the thing about it is if it's a hoax, it's like really well done and very complex and like a credible amount of time. If I get to still, there's tripping up people now. It's like it's all time great hoax then. Sort of, but think about how many languages we've lost. Like we just talked about 100 languages were lost somewhere around that and what is now considered Mexico. Now, you know, think about the rest of the world. Like here's another interesting. Mobs of indigenous people in Australia, the aborigines. Right. So they call themselves mobs and that instead of a tribe. And they have mobs that will live six, 10 kilometers away that speak a completely different language. And they're all over the place and they don't have these things written anywhere. So there's a bunch of their languages that are just spoken orally and just disappear and they will disappear. And we don't know how many languages there are. Like my friend Adam Greentree who he used to own a mining company in Australia and he employed a lot of aborigines and he knows a lot about the culture and he was like, dude, it's the it's the craziest history because a lot of it is not written down and there's a lot of horrible tragedy and genocide attached to it. There's a cave that you can go to where they gave this mob of aborigines poison food on purpose like a whole crew of them. And so there's like just their bones are in this cave still to this day. He goes, dude, it's the darkest fucking thing you've ever seen in your life. You think about this family and their children, their starving and these people, these white people in Australia. We're essentially prisoners that England's shipped over there. Right. It's gave them poison and just damn, damn, damn, damn, damn, damn, that's yeah, damn. And they got brought, they got some crazy rock art. You ever see the the the glyphs of like alien looking dudes and oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, there's like people with like rocket that looked like they're in rocket ships and spacesuits. What what information? What stories? What is their version of the Bible that we missed? Well, it's because they never wrote it down. Yeah, there's something to do with a large flood that seems to be consistent. The hope he had that. Yeah, something to do with a large flood and something to do with some sort of either dragon or serpent type bad guy. Though those are those are the two main consistent things across most cultures. Some large flood event and some snake. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's all and I wonder what the snake in the Bible really looked like because in in the Adam and Eve story at any time you see a picture point in painted of it, it's painted as a snake, but his the snake's punishment was it lost its limbs. So this was a dragon. Right, because the snake's the snake's punishment was it has to slip on the ground, but is that the snake's punishment forever? Is that like why God did that to the snake's period? I think so. I think that's the whole that's right. That's what it doesn't like. Just explain what a snake is looks like rather than describe a dragon. Like why does an ev'lims God took away its limbs? Maybe it's reversed. Maybe it seems like it's reversed. Maybe I just really wanted to be a dragon. Yeah, it seems like how come you don't get to have wings, bitch. You know, because if you really think about it, like there are so many different stories. This is why like, you know, the view like that's that famous Joy Bayhard clip. He believes in dragon. Great clip. It's awesome. It comes out of a conversation that I would force Goulant, who's a wildlife biologist. He's like, there's a lot of depictions of these flying serpents and large serpents with wings all over the world. It's weird. It is really weird. Yeah, it's like a thing. It's really weird. And we know some dinosaurs flew. So there might have been some. Do you think there's some sort of cross? Well, here's the thing. The Congo has had a legend of some sort of a large dinosaur like creature forever. To the point where explorers have made their way into the Congo to try to find this thing. Okay. That resembles, I think it resembles a Bronosaurus. That could fly. No, no, no. That was in the jungle. Like, so the question is, is it possible that a creature could live for an extended period of time and then, you know, maybe in the 1100s or a thousand years ago or what, 2000 years ago, they slaughtered them all and killed them off. Like, maybe it, maybe they have a long gestation period like an elephant, you know, maybe, maybe it's possible to realize these things were a threat. They knew where they'd end up. There was a small population anywhere and they killed them off. Right. Maybe, maybe it's not likely. There's no bones. There's no nothing, but there's no bones of most things. That's the thing. Most things that died do not leave a fossil. Yeah. And then they find things that they thought were extinct, not just extinct, but extinct for millions and millions of years. One of them is the Silicath. You know about the Silicath? No. So the Silicath is this crazy looking dinosaur fish that is unchanged from, God, I want to say, tens of millions of years. I don't know how old, but when you look at it, you're like, yo, look at that thing. And then they caught one once. They caught it. Like, I don't know, it was a fishing net or a fishing boat, but they caught one. And then they realized, like, oh, my God, these things are still alive. Like, we thought this was a part of the fossil record. Damn. And then they realized that there's parts of the ocean that we just haven't explored and these things. And then they've caught a bunch of them since. And then other fishermen have caught them. But it's a very deep, deep sea creature that is really ancient. And they found a, how old is the Silicath? Like, how long has it been around for? Man. That's so, that's so saying the word, right? That's so wild. And I find for years. And then all of a sudden you just find a bunch. Well, they found a few. Well, now that they know they exist, they're looking that they're able to look for the fishing, that area, and they caught them. But can you show me an image of the Silicath? Oh, I think there's a, there's a YouTube channel that I think you'd really like called like, I think it's called Arch, like, it's a, it just goes and looks through what the earth looked like in different eras. So that's how freaky fish. Oh, yeah, I've seen this. It's armored. It's got like these crazy scales on it. It just, it looks like a throwback. So three, hold on, go up. Relatives being the first left seas 385. Okay. So they're not our direct ancestors, but there's still relatives of beings that first left the seas. They left the sea 385 million years ago and became four legged terrestrial animals. Damn. And this is like, this is like a common link. So what does that mean is there's creatures that left so something like that left the sea 385 million years ago and became four legged terrestrial animals from which we sprung. And these relatives are still alive today. So how long has the sea look at been around? A weight of 188 pounds. So the 1938, 38 floating off the South African coast, the Indian ocean, fishermen from the urban caught an unknown creature. We had 188 pounds, five feet in length, dark blue and color in color and unabashedly chomped its jaws. This was not a fish, not just any fish, scales, fins and limbs or more precisely rudiments thereof. Moreover, there were seven of them, two in the back, three on the belly and another pair on the head. They had limbs on their head. Whoa. Should we know the local population occasionally caught these creatures and even come up with a name for them, Gombesa, which can be translated as bitter fish. Love that. Just eat it first. Find out later. The residents knew that it was nearly inedible. It was consumed due to the belief that its meat helped to cope with malaria symptoms. Although it was possible to make something like sandpaper from the extremely strong and brisely scales. So when did they think, when look at what it looked like, that's crazy. That's wild. That looks scary. It looks like a monster with all those weird appendages, right, eventually made its way onto the shore. Yeah. Not that's mad. How long does that? How long did they think that thing had been extinct for? You have to look that up. Yeah. Just put into perplexity the history of the seal account. Okay, here we go. How old is this motherfucker? 420 million years. Wow. Rediscovered. Damn, bro. That's wild. Wow. They thought it'd been extinct for 66 million years. And it was just living. Whoa. Dude, to live that long, that's pretty, that's pretty crazy. That's incredible. Yeah, that's that's incredible. So this thing that was alive 400 million years ago is still alive today. The thought of extinct for 68 million years. Is it possible that there's something else like that that's on land, like less likely, I think, I think ocean is more likely. Well, it's more undiscovered, right? So not just that, it's also like more protective of environmental change. Right. So it's probably less dependent on all that, like, especially if you're a sea predator, you're probably less dependent on, you know, all the plants growing in nuclear winter that's happening on the fucking surface where everything dies off and the ice age comes and it's fucking meteor dust everywhere. You can tell. You can survive a lot of stuff like climate change. You're not worried about that really. Probably you are, but it's probably something more things would probably survive in the ocean, I would imagine. Yeah, that makes more sense. Like how, how older alligators and crocodiles aren't they like, aren't like, aren't like sharks older than trees or other than trees. Yeah, older than trees. It's such a mind-fuck to think about. Yeah, there's something going to be older than trees. Yeah, and they still are essentially in the same form. Mm-hmm. Just fucking swimming machines. Apex predators forever. You hear about that lady off Santa Cruz that got the other day? No, but I have you read that book about the, I read that book about the shark attacks in 1916. Oh, yeah, New Jersey. Yeah, close to short where it's like, oh, damn, like River. Yeah, it went in a freshwater river. Yeah. But they also didn't think sharks were dangerous at that time. That's so great. Like that was in that time. They were like, there were people were like, oh, sharks, they're just like sea puppies. They'll leave you alone. That was the thought. Part of the reason why that stuck out to people were like, oh, sharks are like dangerous creatures. Especially bull sharks. Yeah. Because bull sharks are the ones that can swim all the way up to like, they made their way to Illinois. Oh, yeah, and they're just, they're more aggressive than the great whites, right? Oh, yeah, they're more aggressive. But they make their way all the way up fresh water rivers all the way up until like cold environments. Fucking Illinois had bull sharks and fresh water. Just can a fresh water shark. It's just how bad luck to you. How much of a bad luck do you have to be in a river and get attacked by a shark? It was your time to go. You had your legs dangling out of an inner tube. Yeah. Just shut up. And you feel the sharp pain and you see red in the water and you realize your legs gone. Yeah. It takes you a second to realize your leg is gone too because it's so sharp and so it slices through and you don't expect it. Cheese. Yeah. Wait, we're not expecting a shark in the lake and you look down. You see the white of your kneecap. Everything underneath it is just torn tissue and fuck. Yeah. Yeah. They didn't think it was dangerous at the time like that. Crazy. That's so wild. It's so wild all the way up until 1960. In fact, some people thought sharks were just something that sailors made up. Whoa. Yeah. I'm just like, oh, this giant sea creature that'll eat you. They don't know what they're talking about. This is just a sea myth. Well, it's also when you think about it when people came to America because there's no sharks in England. There's no sharks in Ireland. Right. They don't have a problem over there. So when they came to America, there was only like, we're talking about this shark attack was in the early 1900s. Yes, 1916. So think about that. There's only like a couple hundred years of people even being here. Right. And that it was like a perfect storm of like the beach became like an acceptable thing to go lounge at before that it wasn't a thing. You've been trying to twisted to say that it was trying to attack a dog, not the person. The person is in the way. No, he's dogs. What? It's there are that it does lay out certain things like if you are swimming with a dog, you're more likely to get attacked by a shark. Interesting. And it's like something like a full moon. Like the moon really regulates shark's emotions. So like more shark attacks happen on full moons. Oh, there's certain things. Yeah, apparently having the dog, they never attack the dog. Really? But the dog attracts the something about how they swim attack. Dog don't get killed by a shark. Not in they will attack the person. Really? Wow. It's something that the book lays it out. There is something there is like a like a coordinate like it. There are a bunch of different factors that sort of apply to that. I don't think there's anything alive right now that is dinosaur like. But I wonder how long they stuck around for? How long some of them stayed just the last batches? If crocodiles and alligators didn't exist, like let's just imagine crocodiles didn't exist. The big ones, the Nile crocodiles. Let's imagine. Okay. No one thought there was a crocodile. It's nonsense. And then one day someone got a video of one in the Congo. You'd be like, no, dinosaurs are real. Right. That's a dinosaur. That is a straight up dinosaur. Yeah, it's a giant lizard. Yeah, that is technically what's left. This dude Josh Bo-Mar. He's a bow hunter and he just killed a world record crocodile. And I think it was in Tanzania. I think he might actually, I think he might have did it like two years ago. This thing is so big. I think it's like 17 feet long. And it's probably over a hundred years old. He killed it with a bow. Look at that thing. God. Now imagine if that thing didn't exist. If no one thought that that thing existed. And then you saw that. And then you saw that. You'd be like, yeah, that's a monster that I saw. Look at the size of that thing man. Like if nobody went to Tanzania ever, if it was just a place that no one went to. And then people went there and they saw that. They're like, oh my god, dinosaurs are still alive. Right. Because that's a fucking dinosaur. That's a very full stop. Yeah, you'd be absolutely offended. And called a crocodile. Whatever. It's a species of dinosaurs that made it. It's still here. Like when did crocodiles first evolved? Yeah. 3 to 95 million years ago. Like, gotation younger than the Cila can't. Yeah. What's the 250 million years ago? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. But it's probably the ancestor that came to shore. So he didn't shit. Right. Right. Yeah. If everything came out of the ocean allegedly. Oh, okay. There is something. So there's something that I do. It's like a gratefulness thing that I do. Because it's like this is like a big moment for me in my career. I just released the special. I'm walking away from the, I'm like not working social media at the club anymore. I'm like making steps out. So this is a YouTube video that I watch every every time something like sort of big happens to me or like I'm a crossroads and it's and it's have you ever seen? It's Mr. Rogers Emmy acceptance speech. Have you seen this? No. Okay. Can we pull that up, Jamie? And it's like a three minute video. But like genuinely. Because I'm because I'm going to do it to I want you to do what he says. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. It's just a quick little thing. Okay. Yeah. And I'm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's see it. Yeah. Yeah. For giving generation upon generation of children confidence in themselves for being their friend. For telling them again and again and again that they are special and that they have worth. It is my honor on behalf of everyone here and on behalf of the millions of children whose mornings you have brightened with your kindness to present you with this lifetime achievement. Oh. Oh, it's a beautiful night in this neighborhood. So many people have helped me to come to this night. Some of you are here. Some are far away. Some are even in heaven. All of us have special ones who have loved us into being. Would you just take along with me 10 seconds to think of the people who have helped you become who you are. Those who have cared about you and wanted what was best for you in life. 10 seconds of silence. I'll watch the time. I'll watch the time. Whoever you've been thinking about how please they must be to know the difference you feel they've made. You know, they're the kind of people television does well to offer our world. Special thanks to my family and friends and to my co-workers in public broadcasting, family communications and this academy for encouraging me, allowing me all these years to be your neighbor. Thank God you have here. He seemed like the real deal. Yeah. I'm not a method ever came out about him. Yeah, for real, right? He was like Jimmy Savile. I just am happy he was the real deal. It really does seem like he is. Who do you think about? Oh, do I want to say it publicly? Yeah, if you don't have to. You know, family, personal people. You know, but you and I in particular are very fortunate. We have a lot of people that help us be who we are. Yes. You know, and that is like the one thing that I think we really highlight at the club is that we really are all happy. We really are all lucky. And we really enjoy our time together and we feed off of each other. I'm so happy to like the way the I would say the scene is like incredibly, incredibly supportive of each other. In a way that like it's nice, I guess, in this sort of new system that we live in too, where like you can just make it on your own. Like you don't need like I'm not auditioning for a spot that like fuzzies auditioning for because we're both brown. Right. Like in the old days. Yeah, there's no reason. There's no reason for me to be like damn, I hope he doesn't get this. Right. You know, there's like it's a system of like oh, we can all just create and then help each other. Yes. Like piggyback off each other and like that's it's like such a refreshing experience to have. He really is the rising tide lifts all boats and that's how it should be. And it happens everywhere too because like you know, obviously you're at the mothership and you see how hard the door guys there are crushed but like I'll go to sunset and sunset has some fucking killers as door guys now, especially because like they came up in this experience where sunset you know, famously the ceilings are high and like the room can be cavernous, can feel cavernous when it's like tight. And so they come up in a harsher like the mothership the rooms are set up for comedy. Sunset never happened that way. Right. The guy died before he could make it what he wanted to make it and Redman came in and just sort of saved it so he can open at the very least. So it's like they come up in these harsh situations and like there's just one there's just one kid at sunset. His name is well kid is very funny. He's the grown man but month for Davis, he closes every single desk quad which is like 18 hours long. So he closes every single one goes up in front of a tired beat audience and now he's just an absolute monster running with ankle. Yeah, I mean he's running with the biggest angle weights on to the go at the end of that in that room. They're tired. They've been there forever. But you think about it like that's how kinesen came up. Kinesen was the that was the kinesen spot was the last spot at the OR. You know and then think about his style that screaming yelling in your face that's designed to shock an audience back to life. Right. Just keep going. That's Don Barris. That's Brian Holtzman. Like those guys that develop that act they could just jolt you out of your complacency. It's kind of by necessity. Right. How to just like keep keeping someone's attention. Yes. Like bringing it back is just so impressive. That's what I miss about the commie stores. I left before I got past. So I never got those like late night OR spots. Those one in the morning, six people just survived. I mean some of my best sets favorite sets I've seen people have are in those spots. Yeah. Damn. You really made this work. Well sometimes like reality shines through. Like they have a real moment on stage where the comedy is just like people like oh, shit. Like I remember Laura bites had a set one time and I even posted it. Me and Burke Christch were sat in the back of the room and she crushed so hard. In front of there was only like 25 people in the room. And by the time she was off stage, there was 50 people in the room because people were coming in from other places to come and watch her set. Yeah. When you hear that noise, you're like okay, what's going on here? Exactly. She was just on fire. She was killing. Yeah. It's like those spots are nice because it's like, you know, your jokes and I started yet to work your jokes to get to a certain point where like my jokes are funny enough to showcase and work at the club. And now that I'm at this level, I got the jokes. Now can I be funny? You know, beyond like what my written can I be just funny, me as a person? Yeah. You can kind of really hone that in those sort of late night tough rooms. Yeah, you got to do those. Yeah. And that's what you know, the story at the end of the day, even through hard and like good times and tough times with the story, that's the reason why they always create monsters. Yeah. The story creates monsters. And Midsie knew what she was doing. You know, she had a method to her madness and she tweaked it and got it to the perfect form. So you essentially use a similar form here. Yeah. It's kind of like the method to make comedy happen. It's like just people in like these tough spots over and over again. Can you follow monsters? Right. Can you follow monsters? That's the best part about being at the ship is like, I've had to follow like Theo and Shane and be like, damn, I just got to do this. Yeah. And then you have to follow like the emerging stars too, because then they have a whole separate energy to them. Like I remember following both Cam and James McCann after they both started like popping and being like, whoa, just watching the energy around them shift. Yeah. Yeah. It's like crazy. It's like crazy. Australia. I know. He'll be back. He'll be back. I can't believe they had to go back so funny though. He's the best. He's one of my favorite guys out there. Because it's got such a unique, like it's his perspective. Like you don't expect it. It's coming out of him. If you think the way he does, you get it. Yeah. It's really smart, really funny. High energy too. Yeah. It's, cause usually the hyper intelligent go low energy. It's very rare that a hyper intelligent person like who's intelligent on stage on purpose like that. Like he is goes high energy. That's what makes him unique to me too. Yeah. It's because when they're, when usually when comics are being smart on stage and I'll do this too, they go soft. They go look at me think. Yeah. Yeah. Macan's like, I have the energy of, I'm in a bar yelling at you, but it's about kergistan. Yeah. You know, it's like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're lucky, dude. Yeah. The scene is thriving. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's so many places to go. It's just a small little black box room that's been like, I've had sets there and it's like 10 people and they're amazing. Wow. Yeah. They're just, they're just there for comedy. They're a lot of them are like, they tend to be like, these sort of just out of college kids who can't really afford to go to like any of the clubs. They just, they just have money for the first time or like, oh, we can go to this little spot, like $10 tickets, just get introduced to comedy. It's a bit of a younger audience there. Well, there's just, how many spots are just on our street? I mean, like, there's within our street, like within close, like that you can walk to. Because it's like one hour. No. I'm not cap city. I'm sorry. Vulcan. No. And sunset. Creek in the cave. Creek in the cave is one over in that area. You have Vulcan, sunset, creek, velvita, and then bulls. These are bars that run at least run comedy at least three to four times a week is bulls. Oh, fuck, I'm forgetting. I'm forgetting one of the places. It's, I'm blanking on it now. So, but bulls, black rabbit. If you want to count Roscoe and East Austin, they're a little bit down the road, but they're still kind of in the downtown area. So it's a nine right there, narbar. That's the one I was thinking about. That's 10. Shakespeare's runs it. A bunch of Maggie Mays runs it. I think three times a week. So there's at least 12 pretty much dedicated comedy rooms. And that's not including mics. That's crazy. Not including mics, just in the area. When you say mics for people who don't know, you mean open mics. Yeah, just open mics. You're talking about booked clubs and professional comedians. Yeah, these are shows with people. And like, there's some of them are rough bar shows, but they are shows and they're booked. Wow. Yeah, and there's a, it's, you can get on, you can, there's so many ways to come up. Oh, you can walk. You can walk. I've, I've had nights where I've had five sets and none of them were at the mothership. Wow. I'm just, you're just out and about. Yeah, it is, it is so, and it's just different people getting up in different places. It's each, each of the, each different places, they don't ecosystem of comics. You know, because you go, you go with, where it gives you, what gives you time? Right. That's where you're always, that's the right way to go, no matter what. Yeah. Just whatever is feeding you, go, that's where you go. So there's different ecosystems in each places and it's really, it's really fun. And you just get to see people like, man, just figure it out. And it's, and it's fun to watch and they'll figure it out in the podcast and they'll figure it out on the comedy and then it'll all sort of works together. It's got to be extra dope for you too, because you were an early settler. Man, I got, I feel like I got to the gold rush in 48. I feel like, because, because when I got here, there was only three, it was me, Hans, Kim and Derek and Dylan, Dylan was eight years in. So those were the only four of us that were like, not famous headliners that weren't new comics basically. So we got to just do so many shows because there was no middle class. It was all, it was, it was like California, it was all upper class and all like lower class. It was very, now, now it's robust. Now there's just a bunch of killers that are like, just moving here all the time. There's this guy Nick Murphy, move from Atlanta. What year did you move here? 2021. I moved here early. I got on a Zoom, I got on a, with Dylan Sullivan, we were, I used to play this, I used to play, we used to play game nights from the pandemic online with our friends because we weren't allowed out, right? And so he pulled me aside one day on Discord and was like, you got to move here and you made the pitch. And then I was like, I was pretty much there and then Derek moved here and he was like, you got to, and this was just when we're doing shows out of the Vulcan. This is just shows out of the Vulcan. This was just, but it was indoor shows, man. And so I moved here and then I was like, because the way I looked at it was like, look, either I'm going to, like LA is going to reopen and I'll be working at the comic store again and I'll, we'll have at least gotten up in that time and gotten paid to go up because they paid, they paid for every spot here. Right. If you're booked. So it's like, at least got paid. And so I was like, and then I'll go back to LA with a little glitch. But so, so when you came here, it was just like, look, I'll get some spots, I'll get paid and if the comic store reopens, I'll go back. Yeah, I'll go back and or the club was still two week, two years away from opening, but it's like, I'll stick it out to the club and see what happens if it doesn't work. We were just starting to talk about club back then. Right. Yeah, you would put it on the universe and that was enough for me to be like, I think it's going to get that done. And so I took a chance and it ended up working and then I ended up being one of the first people like pass through there, which ended up with a huge, huge blessing because now there's so many killers that it's like hard to get into the mothership. Yeah. There's so many like people who've moved. It's like, I almost tell people like it's a major city in that way in the sense of like, if you can get good where you are first and then move to Austin, that might be better now than a blind move to Austin. Right, as an opener. Yeah. As a beginner. Yeah, it's hard as a beginner. Yeah, it's like LA was for a while. Oh, LA is super tough. I imagine New York is super tough as well. The store was really tough. If you wanted to go from open mic to actual spots like you got to do spots somewhere else. Right. You really should be better. You're better off coming there with potential. Like you've already gotten a few years under your belt. Then like trying to figure it out in this because LA mics are especially brutal. I think it's man, if you guys didn't come, it wouldn't have worked. Like that was the thing. It's like the people that really are responsible for the movement, the crazy new scene here are the ones who came before the club was open. Brian Simpson, Tom Segero. Segero is here. Right. Early man. Right. I told him about it. And he's like, I'm fucking moving. And then bam, I was like, whoa. And when Tom moved, I was like, that's a big deal. You know, because Tom was already doing arenas. Yeah. It required a certain amount of people to buy in. Yeah. And that, you know, I'm very, because of that I'm very pro-Austin of cause like, man, if you buy in, look what can happen. Yeah. Then you shouldn't, no one should not be pro-Austin. It's funny because Lewis and Tony were going back and forth and arguing, like Lewis shits on the Austin scene. Right. This New York versus Austin thing is the stupidest fucking thing in world. They should both be awesome. Who cares? Yeah, it's unnecessary. It's unnecessary like in fight. It's like caddy girl fighting. It's like what, we both clearly can exist in a space where we can also help each other. The New York guys are always here and we're, I feel like we're always there. But the point is, what Tony and Lewis were going back and forth and Lewis said, well, LA isn't even into consideration anymore. What's the best place for comedy in the country? And Tony goes, agreed. And why do you think that is? What do you think happened? Where did those people go? And Lewis is like, oh shit. But you know, I wasn't this way because I was just in LA. I like, where the LA scene's at. It's rebuilding stronger. Of course it is. Yeah. It's the store. It's the Hollywood. It's pretty pretty. When I got there was it a low when I came in 94 the OR was half empty main rooms never fall It's oh, and then there was no big talent there. It's always like that. It comes it goes new people come up Yeah, it's legendary. It's got a vibe to it. It creates comedy just by existing Yeah, it's like it's still at every time they're like man. This is the fucking place is the fucking place man That's been the place since 1970 something means The place is crazy. Yeah, you could do us what the building is alive in that place It's crazy. Yeah, you feel it. It's like soaked with the memories of kinesen and kicks and he prior and here's what's crazy You know the bucket seats in the back. Yeah, if you go during the day They might have repainted the wall so this is when I worked there But when you go during the day because I'd get there early and like right or whatever and you can look Where the bucket seats are the outline of all the heads because of all the oil of the people leaning back was just there So you were just there and it's just the energy of all these great comics just in the room with you Yeah, it was it was it was an interesting place to like be during the day because you could sort of feel a very special place Mm-hmm very special place you never get to take away from that But the thing is it's like it should be and it will be even better than it used to be I'm sure mm-hmm But the point is it's like denying that Austin is an amazing scene is just stupid. Yes, it's just stupid Yeah, it's like and also don't you want another great scene? Do you want a limited amount of options for comedians? Don't you want more comics and more comedy? Right and more places for you to end up performing shut up like now Yeah, now you can go to Austin and spend a couple weeks doing it a lot of time and taught learn how to talk to people here So many bitches in this world So many bitches and those bitches never get anything done. They just sit and bitch Never get stuck. Yeah, yeah, they never progress Yeah, man, just video essays I It's just so funny to me because they all start they all The whole concept that Austin is ruined comedy is very funny Because there's so many comics that are blowing up outside everywhere all the time. It's just silly It's like my friend said it's a wall garden That's what it is it seems like the people are having too much fun And if you're not there and if you know I'm aspirations to be there you feel bad about it When I lived in Boston the store was like mecca like people would talk about it You know, it's like you had to make the pilgrimage to the comedy stores one of the first things I did when I came to LA Oh, no, it's a big deal the first time you go there I remember looking at it being just the feeling in my heart the first time I went there I hadn't even moved there yet. I went there just to watch I told them I was a comedian from New York I'm like can I go and watch a set like yeah, sure they'll let me come in and I sat in the back and watching it was like Bowdacks was terrible. It was really bad It was like a bunch of cruise ship acts like a bunch of guys were the same act from the 1970s They had never you know those dudes that like you'll see them at the store occasionally now that I have an act from the 80s Well, these dudes it was like a decade earlier. Yeah, when I worked at lohoya There was one guy that they booked that they had like some some deal with Mitzi that he got to perform once here at the lohoya and Man, you can just tell man. It's been you haven't changed this act since the 70s. Yeah, they just never evolved and you know And they weren't getting spots from kinesan was around the place was packed and then kinesan left Then you know billboard you put a billboard right in front of the comedy store of his new album that was coming out Like why did he leave the store? I don't know he probably did something stupid. Okay, I think he definitely fired off a gun Cuz remember he shot the bullet hole is still there. Yeah, yeah, I heard they fixed the the sign though No, it's a back. It's a plastic. I yeah, they might have I think that the plastic was falling apart But they kept the bullet hole because the bullet hole is still there. Okay. Yeah, I went out and looked I made sure Pretty crazy the kids and bullet holes like part of the thing there. Yeah, but the crack glass was also part of the thing Yeah, but I think eventually just fell apart. It's been like 40 years I mean that might have been we've got him banned not sure Then he was banned and then when I came it was 94 so he was already dead. He was dead and Hicks was dead So it was weird. Okay, and so that's what the lowest that's what the lowest from they were just kind of missing that top Yeah, there was a low and guys would occasionally drop in to work out But they didn't put their name on the marquee no one ever knew they were gonna be there like Chris rock would come in and work out Damon would come in and work out But the big comics are where they like Domarero would stop in there was guys that would stop in But then it was mostly as younger guys Holtzman was a big part back then. I can't imagine Holtzman as a young guy. Oh me me. I'm like we're only a few ages a few years different It feels like he's just looked like that since he was like he was a throwback He looked like he was from the 1950s when I met him in 94. Yeah, like slick back dark hair Right always the best always a nice guy. Yeah. Oh my god. He's the sweetest guy in the world And there's something about guys who are like that on stage are always super sweet off stage Oh, cuz they like truly get all the venom out It's like William Unger if you watch William Unger on stage. He's a raving lunatic. Yeah That picture. Oh wow look at Holtzman to the right with a suit on. Oh my god in the poly who's next to you? Yeah, Freddie Soto that's Freddie Soto. Damn Boy, that was probably like 96 Crazy Yeah, Brian does look the exact same He looks exactly he had jet black hair and He would look at his again. You know what it kind of looks like that. That's his head shot There's this guy on Instagram where his whole his whole thing is it just he pretends to be a greaser Oh really? Yeah, but like unironically and that's it kind of what he looks like But his it's really funny because all his all his comments are just like yo show us that hog Like that's that's become the He does like greaser shit and all the covers like but how come where's the hog reveal Yeah, it's become like that's funny so unironically trying to be a greaser that the that the comments came up with their own Sort of culture around him. So it's comedy accidentally. Yeah, the kind of mock it. They're all kind of making fun of them But he's genuinely trying to be portrayed as a guy as this greaser guy It's like Mike the greaser something like that. It's so funny. Well Holtzman was just I thought he was gonna blow up man I'm really dead. I was like oh this guy's gonna be fucking huge My this guy this guy's gonna be gigantic. There was a few guys back then Then I was like that guy's gonna be big you never see Mike Rica No, then early 90s Mike Rica was great, man. I don't know what happened. I know what happened with him It's so even nobody does comedy. Yeah, it's so like it's so easy people fall off all the like it's like it is brutal The game is brutal. It can be yeah, but you have to have something brutal outside of the game to keep you centered You should do something else. That's also difficult for me. It's obviously working out That's a big part of what keeps me sane. I think it's important for mental health The people that are the most mentally unhealthy and unstable that I know all have no Control of their body none of them exercise. They don't eat well. They eat terrible food They take medications and they're all fucked up in the head and then little things can send them off a deep And once a person makes a mean tweet about them and a couple people pile on they want to jump off a building Right, you know There's a bunch of those people out there and I think like with the pressures of this job You have to for your own sanity you have to find some sort of an outlet Yeah, some sort of a thing or like take a walk that too. Yeah, yeah, it's so it's not a help But should be something that's a little bit that you exert yourself Well, that's like I was like that's a good place to start if you're one of these people that like don't like Yeah, yeah, I just a simple walk and really get the ball rolling on Don't jump right into CrossFit. Yeah Nothing couched across it. Yeah, just be outside like smell the air and be or so because like does your phone send you the screen time updates? What do you mean like so my phone will send me like a weekly like this? How much you spend on your phone? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for me. It's like damn. This is like a full-time job that I'm spending on my phone It's disgusting and after just remind myself like oh the reason I feel bad is because I'm on this 100% I'm on this and I'm consuming a fake reality That like I think one of the most dangerous things that the phone like the online existence does it is it calls like People like call their fans and stuff a community and it's not really a community your community It has to be people you see in person. It can't be this online possibly fake fan club basically well I can't certainly can't be a large percentage of your interactions with people that's nuts But I mean there is some sort of a community that you kind of cultivate by interacting with people on social media It's just that what price right? You know and what and then how much you doom scrolling other than interacting with people and having like semi-positive Experiences communicating like sharing ideas. How much of it is just doom scrolling right for me was a it was a lot And so I backed off it heavy So I still spend a lot of time on YouTube though my distraction time is almost all YouTube Now my I'm a doom scorer. Yeah, cuz you get caught you see one thing and they're like it's so easy to just do that It is but I don't want that because it makes me feel weird But YouTube doesn't make me feel weird So if I watch some really cool video on ancient history or something It's I never feel bad at all. Oh, that was cool Yeah, I don't I don't don't come out of it with any negative feeling. I just come out of it like oh, that's interesting I learned something YouTube is like the modern television. Oh, it's fucking phenomenal That's the one you see phenomenal. You can just find some those people making high quality things Sometimes I'll get caught up in things that I don't even care about yeah, like that I don't I'm not like a huge horror movie fan. I like movies But but I found this one one pitch called nightmare movies and he just explains his favorite horror movies And he has a great voice and I've watched like all of his videos Zero interest in watching any of the movies. I'm interested in watching him react to the movies really yeah What's really dope on YouTube also is these little short horror movies that people make on their own Like real super low budget, but like really interesting ideas. There's a ton of them right some of them are fucking great They're really cool. They're like eight minutes long. They're two minutes long and I can just get you Yeah, there's so much entertainment. I like watching people make furniture for some reason I really do. Yeah, I love watching people make like live-edge tables and shit and I Don't know. Yeah, it's just it's just like oh this tickles me. I like watching people cook I'm like a watch a lot of cooking Well, it's it's so it's so like you can Everyone's entertainment so like in their own lane that you can come across if anybody like eight million views and you've never even seen it right like true virality is tough Like in the future are there gonna be even like a list celebrities like that you know like or like It's gonna be there's gonna be less and less like a like what would you describe as like an a list celebrity Right, everyone has their own sort of lane. Well, there's more celebrities now than there ever have been before for sure There's more let's just say famous people right there's more people that are known than ever before because of social media Like yeah about all the streamers and tubers and yeah Austin has a huge streaming scene. Yeah, it's insane. So there's that so that muddies the water because like you go back to like Let's go back to like 1960 when Paul Newman was a super star making movies. How many fucking Paul Newman's were there right? Yeah, with a 10 yeah on earth Like if you wanted to make a big movie you get Marlon Brando Paul Newman, you know, you have a few people Like a star on Sydney, Swini's like level now right back then that would be a name to sell movies Mm-hmm now like those movies that she's in that people don't watch right and that's like what like an a list celebrity is now It's like they see there's so much stuff you're competing with just so much content just period I'm always watching a new show right always a new show and they're fucking great. There's so many great shows Yeah, we're not even just random Instagram accounts. I do not watch this guy sandwiches of history All he does is he finds a sandwich book from like some of them from like the early 1900s and just makes a sandwich You know, is any of them good some of them are amazing and some of them suck at some of them are like Some of them are like a depression era. You know what I mean? It's like bread and sawdust But some of them are some of them are like damn. That's like a good sandwich And I just watch this guy eat sandwiches and be like this is this is a this is a great use of my time We're gonna orange peel sandwich from 1921 here 1921 antique orange peels You mix it up with mayonnaise and you spread it on bread Let's see his face He always he always goes I'll give this sandwich a go. He has like a catch phrase I'm all about it Hmm, okay, it doesn't look like he likes it. It's a terrible idea Orange peel sandwich the fuck out here. Well, that's what people ate. Yeah, starving starving eating an orange peel sandwich. Yeah The sandwich was made by a guy was in a hurry, right? Wasn't that the idea just threw some fucking meat in some bread and to eat it all together? Yeah, I think so and then the people were like Wow, what's his name? Sandwich like the Earl of sandwich. Yeah, I think it was a place. Yeah And I'm saying that is that real though is that just like what didn't we we definitely searched this before isn't there an Earl of sandwich was that like a no they're 100% as but it's also like a store and I'm just like why I'm like is that even That maybe just like a silly method. I'll tell you what if the sandwich didn't originate with the Earl of sandwich what a mighty coincidence that Real the crazy Earl of sandwich What is the origins of the term sandwich Stuck looking at the Earl of sandwich. Okay, so the Earl of sandwich exists But just put into problexity. What are the origins of the sandwich? I'm pretty sure it was like a military guy. Yes, he was like fuck it Just give me the bread and the meat. I'll put it together and cut the bread open stuff that in there Because I think they used to just eat bread and eat meat eat bread. They just ate bread by itself Like stupid to be fine. Yeah, yeah, very artistically. Yeah, keep the food separate 18th century England named after John Montague the fourth Earl of sandwich During a prolonged card game in 1662 oh, that's right. He was gambling. That's right now. I remember. Oh, well now that gambling is so fucking massive now What cool food is gonna come out of that? That's hard to hear Food Uber eats will deliver it right to your table Allowing him to eat without interrupting play the practice creation popularized the handheld meal Among England's elite there it is. Oh, that's so far. It used to be an elite food. Oh Okay, so it looks like the Romans had it before It says similar concepts predated Montague Such as the Roman Ophela which involved meat or cheese between bread slices. That's a sandwich. Right. He just didn't call it that Mmm, huh Okay, they finally had a name that stuck Is there a current Earl of sandwich? I bet there is yeah, imagine if he's gluten sensitive Well now we know You want to talk about places to eat Austin hasn't it amazing fucking selection of places to eat during the day the night leaves a little Yeah, it needs to be it there needs to be a late night diner Well, we were talking about that last night like one of the things I really miss about LA is the Jewish delis Canters yes, we used to go there after a club We'd leave and we'd go to canters and I would get a pastrami rubin with steak fries. Oh My god, have you ever had a pastrami rubin from canter? Yeah, that's what you get at canters. That's a good Lord Yeah, I mean it might be the best pastrami rubin on earth It's right up there with cat's deli in New York City, which is maybe the king. Oh, I've never been there. Oh Lord Cats deli in New York City is fucking legendary first of all you have to you get a ticket when you get there I don't even know if they accept credit cards. You might have to pay in cash Oh, I like you get a ticket when you get there and you can't lose your ticket if you lose your ticket You got to pay like 50 bucks because you take that ticket and on that ticket they write all the things you get So you go up to the counter and they're like we're gonna get you and these guys that have been fucking chopping meat since the 20s You know and they'll slice you off a couple of pieces of brisket slice you off a couple of pieces Of pastrami and you get to eat it while you're there while you're waiting for your sandwich to be made And you know you tell them what you want and he pulls the fucking pastrami out and starts slicing it up But funny it steams coming off of it. He's piling it on that ride, Brad You're like oh you can't wait and then he gives you a couple pickles in there and then you like what else you want And then you move down the line like I get order fries get order fries I want a root beer pop up up and then you get to the end and they put it all on your ticket And then when you leave after you've eaten then you bring the ticket up to the counter Ah, okay Plus accountability Give you a check it's a weird old system so nobody pays attention so everyone loses their fucking ticket If you're from out of town if you've never been there before you're like what the ticket what what happened? How much is it? No, it's a way to it's a way to scam the tourists a little bit. It's like a tourist fee not a scam Why do you just think it's how they used to count back then? He's never changed it. It's kind of the charm of the place. Right. This weird thing. Oh, show me some canter sandwiches son Yeah, we were we My when I was a dog guy we were big swingers guys. That was the that was the show me cats. Yeah Yeah, that was that was the that was the the diner we went to but like it swingers was great That was a great diner. Yeah, that was a great diner Really good food and that was open pretty late too. Look at that son. Are you fucking kidding me? Look at that pastrami with Swiss cheese. Oh lord That's so good and they piloted up high and they've been doing it that way since the fucking 1800s. Yeah, how old is canter's 1888 geez. Yeah, it's 1888 look how good that looks. Oh You see how she's pulling it like that the flavors. Oh, yeah, see this is what this is what Austin is definitely missing Yeah, we need something they need something late night something All you can go and hang out and like now I had heard that someone was opening a cat's deli in Austin Right, but I don't think it's cats cats deli from New York City. No, it's just called cats deli cats never closes. Oh Coming soon. What all go back? Coming soon on six street. How far is that from us? Well, we're on six it's on west six. So it's like near Everything over a current spot. Yeah, what's up? It's taking over us like I think there's like a bar there or something Oh, okay. Yeah, it's kind of near where we're in the same locations the OG cats is operated for 32 so it's way down by J carvers Yeah, but this that that's not that's a five minute drive. Yeah, that's you can walk there. Yeah, we do that we do that all time. That's never closes But that was August 18th. I had it had been any news since is it open? Yeah, it's no no, no, it's gonna take a year Oh, they're building it out. Yeah, whoa There's a place like that that is they got the name out and it's gonna be open any year and a half So was there an original cats is never closes or is it the one that that that's where it was it closed in 2011 So they lied No, fucking closed Yeah, cats sometimes closes for 15 years by the way I would have never allowed them to use it K for closes like guys We're not kooky stop Yeah, you're not crispy cream. Yeah, why are you doing that right? Um, so expected in 2026 maybe 2027 mm-hmm Oh, I can well, hopefully they yeah because that's that's the big hole right now in the Austin game look at it Though this is it New York style deli menu with sandwiches like rubens day long breakfast breakfast dishes like waffle egg sandwiches and blinces Entrace including pork roasts and meatloafs. Oh my god. It sounds amazing open 24 seven Who I sped it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, finally Because that was the big hole outside of that Austin has like amazing food. We should help them But yeah after after 10 p.m. It gets rough pickings or yeah, let's blow them up when they open up a lot of hallalcarts Which I wouldn't expect in Austin. That's such a funny. We're going through there I wouldn't be like oh hallalcarts would be a good way. I get late night food entrepreneurs. Yeah Just recognize the need. Yeah, there's the only the only things you can get Oh, there's golden tiger. That's great. Yeah, they're open pretty late, right? They're open till like you like 130. Yeah, that's pretty late That's pretty good. The comic life. You're like out at two. I know. Yeah, that's looking for food at two Yeah, too, and you're like well, I thank God the the Mexican hot dog carts people are here, right? Yeah, that happened recently They're the side showing up. Yeah, there's always smart people to capitalize mm-hmm Because there's always I mean there's so many people walking around drunk Right, just looking for stuff especially six treat. You got a taco truck. You kill it. Oh, yeah, six treat Two in the morning all the fucking zombies in there's that road when you go up to seventh where when you're headed towards Creek there's a whole parking lot that's got a bunch of food trucks up in there that I got that there's a place my favorite place It's called Dady dog. They got Bulgogi fries. Oh Bulgogi fries. Bulgogi fries isn't there a really good cheeseburger place over there too? Um, yeah, this is the yellow burgers that they're pretty good, but for me downtown if I'm if I'm eating downtown I mean the Bulgogi fries that good. Oh, yeah, there's a lot So you can't I can't get them very often now that I'm older that I'm like, oh, yeah, to take care of myself When I first moved here I was on that Bulgogi fry diet, son. It's kind of insane. How many great restaurants are here? It's like oh, yeah, the numbers nuts. Yeah, just good and good casual eating places too It's like you can really at everyone who moves I call this When you move to Austin, there's the freshman 15 We just for eating here. Just for meeting here. You just get it And then after you live here for like five years you get like I think you just get so tired of brisket that you can't look at it again for a while I it's so much brisket that I only go now and like out of town people That's funny. Yeah, I could eat it 24 days out of a month. I'll take six off. Oh, no, I love it Yeah, but Sometimes they the the Terry blacks will come to the green room and I'll be like I can't look at this right? Oh, no This is like day three in a row of Terry blacks not like a plane, but it is fun black size those beef ribs dogs That's the best ribs are insane. I do describe it. I had a you got to take every tourist. It's like the Disney land of Austin Yeah, it's a line that moves quickly. You can see how everything's made and it's a fucking huge place They they I think they're like the highest volume restaurant in the country really Yeah, I think in terms of like brisket and barbecue and stuff. I think they were telling me that I forget what the exact statistic they told me but it was like the volume of food that they served there Is like as high as anywhere in the country. That's that makes sense. It's always there's always a line there Yeah, yeah, oh, and they've always moved quickly so they're always getting people like in and out Well, you can only eat so much like when you sit down and eat barbecue you ain't sit in there for three hours bitch No, you know, you also always get more than you can eat. Yeah, you always like Yeah, cuz it looks so good up there and then like the second you have like their cornbread. You're so full What the fuck is that? Those beef ribs? They're so rich you can only eat like so much of it. Poison. Oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah Yeah, I know not before a show that's always a that's a mistake that people make bro last time we had a whole group of us I made a mistake to sit next to Metzger and I was in the corner I was fucking looming over me with conspiracy theories like Kurt you got to stop Try and enjoy these ribs. Yeah, you gotta stop I don't know if it's just the Terry Blacks in Austin because I know they have one in Dallas I think too, but it says 18% of America's brisket is served by them 18% of America's that's so much brisket that's crazy Metzger's a fun one in the green room. He said my favorite is when he'll be like what I thought this was common knowledge You don't know yeah, you don't know there was there was something inside in the green room the other day about like Morgan Freeman At some deep conspiracy about Morgan Freeman and we're like what the fuck you talking about like well I thought this was common knowledge. It's like no no one knows anything about when you're talking about the Morgan Freeman dated his granddaughter. Yeah, step granddaughter step grandma. Yeah, I had a stated her and then the the Boyfriend went crazy and like killed her And he was like I thought that was common knowledge. It's like what what do you mean? Is that true? The boyfriend went crazy and killed That's what he said I was I looked at it afterwards and I was like I don't know where Kurt get Kurt gets his news plugged in straight from the matrix. I think I don't even know where he finds his stuff Well, he's on that Jimmy Dorshow You know and Jimmy Dorshow the entire show is about exposing corruption and conspiracies and It's a lot. Yeah, you live in that world all the time Everything becomes a conspiracy and everything doesn't leave a lot of room for sunshine Also, here's the thing there's enough conspir- like we talked about the Franklin scandal There's enough conspiracies that are absolutely real and provable that if you go into it You will kind of go crazy right? I mean, this is what kind of happened to Alex Jones This is what happens to a lot of people to get involved in conspiracies So like you you find out how many of them are true and you start losing your fucking mind You're like what is real like what really controls the world? What fucking lizard people are really at the center of this whole thing right? Yeah, that's kind of better Stay away at a certain point just be like yeah, we should probably pay attention a little bit Some people must have an obligation to do it because if it doesn't get exposed then it's gonna continue And the only way that you can kind of put a stop to this stuff is people have to get busted and they have to be held accountable The public has to get outraged so someone has to be making these videos But doesn't have to be you right Yeah, for your own personal mental health. It's just not good to absorb all of the evil of the world Yeah, there's no reason to take that on There's no reason just just find happiness in your lane. Yeah, yeah, that's that I feel like that's pretty easy to do Yeah, I feel like that's pretty easy to do yeah, just just be a lot of you just be happy with where you are And work from there Yeah, but it's just like some people feel obligated to be a part of something You know, and you you you find the thing about like with Madskars like he wasn't always like this I was friends with him long before start working with Jimmy and he was you know Fun and crazy always like the same kind of guy, but now it's like the The obsession is all on deep corruption and conspiracies is like yo Yeah, he's right. He's right a lot of it right which is nuts and he maintains a lot of it at his fucking brain just bouncing around in there like But yeah, but I mean it's yeah, it just takes over man. I do think Have white precious his his comm essential special. Yeah, low-key Monday the most underrated special about time that the specials great very funny. Especially great He's very good his writings very good. He's just very smart You know, he's a great podcast to basically just got to kind of corral him a little bit You know, yeah, he cuz he'll go from one subject to the next subject to the next all in like one rank like Go back to that first one queen Elizabeth did what? Yeah, yeah, you know, yeah He's just Well, we have a lot of I mean, he's another one that lives in Austin now. We have a lot of them. It's pretty cool Yeah, it's uh, um It's it's so it's so fun watching like all these like young kids to like rise up And be like and just like find themselves It's so like uh, I mentioned fuzzy earlier, but just watching him on stage like he does it It's so it's a great watching him just like figure out to not give a fuck And then see what comes from that yeah like right now he's doing these things at the end when he closes out like fat man He'll also do a q&a, but he's not famous Questions are so much funnier And like the answers are so much wilder because it's just some guy that they all just met That's hilarious. Yeah, so it's a it's a very fun dynamic to watch his q&a's and just being because they're all All right, it's like wait, we're doing a q&a. Why we had no questions coming in that's funny Yeah, the first time ever saw anybody do a q&a was sign filled really? Yeah, he did a whole set. He did like 45 minutes and then it was at the paradise in Boston The paradise was a small club was a rock and roll club that was connected to stitches and stitches was the comedy club So for the comedy club like if you are regular comedian, I think stitches probably seated maybe 150 people was like a little bit bigger than little boy and So if you are regular comic like a you know road headline or you do stitches and then if you're a big guy like Jerry Seinfeld who'd been on television you do the paradise. Okay, so I was with a date I think I was maybe 20 and I went to see Jerry Seinfeld before I ever did stand up and he did stand up and then he came back out And he answered questions and he would just riff with the audience and it was fucking great It was really cool. He just started riffing about stuff And I guess that's like how he was creating material and coming up with new premises. Yeah, do you get bits when you do that? Sometimes yeah, yeah Yeah It's it's not an exact science like we'll have a whole fun Q&A session for 20 minutes and there's no bits Right, and I'll do it five times six times and then one time bam. I got one And then you just got to grab that sucker and reel it into the shore Yeah, and then yeah, and then figure it out but I've bottom of the barrels the best Bottom of the barrels the best premise factory ever. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah I feel like because there's certain people who do it like I think you're you're I mean you're great at it And I feel like you should like if you were thinking about doing a special would you ever consider doing a bottom of the barrel type special No, because I'd say too much wild shit that I wouldn't want to get published. That's a very fair point That's a very but the most insane shit I've ever said has been on bottom of the barrel And just like I'm so glad there's a place where I can get this thought out because they'll look at you Like you know what the fuck and you're like, hey, no, this isn't my idea. Yeah, you fucking wrote this down Yeah, they get mad at you I One time I got beast reality And it reminded me of a story so the way we consumed porn as kids because you guys had like magazines and you'd find in the woods You have a bit about that. Yeah, yeah, that was not so we that there was these this was like pre porn hub So these pre-youtubes of porn as I call them, but they were these like dedicated sites They'd be like one of them was like mr. Choose Asian beaver. I think you can tell what that's about That one was a great Probably run by a Jewish guy. Yeah, for sure. Definitely not a mr. Choose. There was a there was at the very There's this very racist cartoon beaver and he would have like the buck teeth and the rice hat And then he would great every girl out of fortune like out of five fortune cookies at the end of each video Whole premise of the site That's what we were coming up with and porn and one day and we'd watch that together in like seventh grade Like that's the R our huddling around the magazine And then one day we invited the weird guy and he had found one where people fuck animals Yeah, it was like why and and there's been very famous videos I think there's one called like mr. hands or something. Yeah, yeah, there's very favorite like those originated out of those sites And so he was showing us that and then what I said on stages It gave me the life experience to know that sometimes when you sometimes when you watch people fuck a dog Sometimes the dog enjoys it And they all looked at me like I was horrified which is a kind of horrified thing to say but I was also like well you brought it up Yeah, I wasn't gonna tell the story unless you asked me some dogs must like it Probably a girl girl dog out there that like some dick. Oh, I mean, there's probably a guy There's probably a guy dog out there that's given some dick right now for sure. Oh, yeah, yeah, I've seen crazy lady I've seen videos when I was a kid. There was like this Video that a friend of mine had and I remember one of us had a watch the door So it's like The yeah, because there's a door down into the basement So one of us had to stand up at the door and the rest of us were huddled in front of this fucking 12-inch television with a vcr attached to it Down and you put the VHS tape in there. We're watching like a copy of a copy of a copy of barnyard Betty And barnyard Betty was this crate. They took some crazy crackhead and they gave her money to suck a dog's dick and get fucked by a German shaper Weird watch man. Yeah, you come across them which out there dog just pump nut into this fucking poor Drunken sad alcoholic drug addict lady Jesus sad. Yeah sad. Yeah, that's uh But that's yeah, that's that's how Fuck well porn's fucked. It's just so it's so crazy how it's just move towards I guess it's more empowering. I guess what so that individual creators Right like only fans. Yeah, it's like the numbers you've ever seen the numbers I saw the the one lady that makes more than LeBron Yeah, that but I mean the number of actual girls that are on only fans. Oh, it must be it must be depressing Crazy. Yeah, and it must be depressing how many people are selling themselves to like nobody Exactly, that's the thing the vast majority aren't making any money right and then they're pushing out there forever Just forever. Yeah, they're getting fucked by a dildo in front of the whole world And the guy saves it on his hard drive forever and ever and ever and ever right and you were 19 You just didn't want to work Yeah, but I think the number between girls of 18 to I forget what the age is something in their 20s. It's like 10% That's wild. It's but it's content creation. It's like that's a genuine market that people are going for and that's what it That's a way to do it. It's also pornography. It is pornography Right, but I mean content creation is tiktok Instagram, right? You know, I mean like that's content creation I think they view it in the same vein Wow Like I know what you do right? I know that top lady and this is something is Sophie rain Sophie rain and this is something that's just interesting across all Gen Z is that her thing is that she's a virgin Right, and that's how she sells which is like yeah, which you know it take it for what it is But like her and that the Nick Shirley guy virgin Nick Fuentes virgin It's like that's like a thing that you can sell the Gen Z is virginity Yeah, you were talking to me about this in the green room that like this in-sell problem is unrecognized That there's a giant percentage of people that are like voluntarily celibate in this country. Yes, I think so and it's like a lot of it It's maybe this sort of new religious this sort of religious fervor that sort of developing with them as well because Gen Z is more religious Yeah, but I think horny. I don't get it. They're not meat. They're not there's something like a some crazy amount of women under 25 Have never been approached by a guy their age like in public. What? Yeah, yeah, it's the game is DM's so it's all online. So it's all feeling that sort of loneliness Yeah, they don't go out. They don't go out like alcohol consumption from Gen Z to millennials is like they drink 800% less some crazy shit like that Third spaces that you know the concept of a third space. No, okay, so you have work at home That's space one space to and a third space is like you know When I was sitting college we go to the bowling alley every day for one one summer It was stuff like that. So a place that you can all go to the library the mall Places to exist outside of the two spaces those places are completely disappearing Whether people are staying inside all the time or They've become too expensive like movies now are like very expensive So it's like kind of priced out of being a third space on top of all the things that are going out with movies So those are also disappearing so places where you can meet someone in person are gone So they're not meeting in person a lot of it is app driven and and you know and then you got a wonder about like sex drive drop off Mm-hmm because well you can access porn Cons like like instantly now right so you can at least play that part of your brain give it something Right, give it a rush of some kind that it would kind maybe get from like a lesser version of sex But still feel filled that void Right, you know, there's also Testational levels of dropped like fertility levels amongst women of dropped. Yeah miscarriages of risen the west the west The fertility rates in the west are like massively concerning Like it's you know We people like worry about bringing in migrants, but at the same time there's the only ones having Kids at replacement level like the west isn't having that I had my I had my 15-year high school reunion recently and I was in town I was like I'll go to this and I was like damn I'll probably be the only one who's like not married and doesn't have kids and most of the people weren't married or didn't have told you know 33 Yeah most uh, yeah, most of the people there just I would say of yeah Didn't have kids which is which is wild 33 at any other generation This is a late time to not have a kid. Yeah, this is pretty For people who grew up middle-class millennial. I would say this is pretty standard To not have a kid and there's certain I think driving factors to the fact that a house is Unbiable for a lot of people my age and a younger that like Because you're sold to dream on a house and two kids. Well if you can't get the house Like it's it sucks to be renting with kids right you know the instability average home buyer age is increasing while the median age for all US home buyers Reaching 59. Yeah. Oh, that's pretty late. Yeah record I'm like 2025 40 median age for first time buyers hit a record high of 40. Yeah, so it's like that's how much that's how long yet though Like it's hard to raise a kid without a house, you know That's crazy and the American I think the American community in that way is dying because like you know You you take the village to raise a child So you raise a house you raise a child in a house you bought your neighbors generally say the same There's a certain level of comfort and like you know Oh, my mom can do this and think for me. I can go to my neighbor's house and you know what I mean There's safety in that but if everyone around you is a renter than your community kind of disappears. Yeah There's no like set community. That's a really good point. Mm-hmm, and it's like Bringing up a kids need consistency. Mm-hmm. So bring up in a world that's constantly shifting It's it's probably anxiety inducing to people who can't afford homes For sure. I'll definitely on that and then child care is expensive then if also your friends aren't doing it You know, mm-hmm, and then women are waiting later and later because they want to prolong their careers right And then it becomes harder and then you get into and vitro fertilization Yeah, there's definitely some this this with this wave of with feminism and capitalism There's definitely some like in city is ties there of just like You can you can oh like work Create capital for us and then make it make it so it's impossible or very hard for one working house spouse to like just if the man is working to raise a kid Do you think it's on purpose? I think Maybe it wouldn't start on purpose, but I think it sort of became intertwined well, isn't it just a Just a side effect of if women want to pursue careers. Yes, you're gonna have less children, but the That that is for sure, but there's a thing about it. There's this like almost demonization Of the women who choose to stay home like you know, it's like look out a tradwife. It's look down on But it is not just because of the women that are pursuing careers they give them that that look down on Yeah, that's this true and it's probably because they secretly feel like maybe they're messing out Maybe it's it to me. It's like It's so funny that it both can exist It can be the woman that go for their careers and the woman that want to stay home It's just for one group to demonize the other. I think it's just very interesting Yeah, it is weird, but it's also like population drop is a real thing It does look like the humanity. Have you ever seen that population curve of the deer? Mm-hmm Yeah, it's like so I think humanity is kind of at that point where it levels off Hmm. Have you yeah, because I remember my bioclasses Which that would be the population like the yeah the exponential growth and then the level off And we've had the exponential growth and we're looking like that part of the graph Well the thing is like there is still exponential growth is just not in the west. That's what's kind of weird Right right poor people poor people want to have a bunch kids and they're having them all the time right and then they want to come over here Yeah, but they go for Minnesota And then have their kids in daycare that doesn't exist right But yeah, there's something happening in the west or like the way that like the South Korea in Japan. Oh, they're fucked. They're like fucked. They're like actually fucked They're like a couple generations away from like how you're gonna support this whole thing right unless you let people in Well, or you encourage people to have kids If you turn it around with the youngest people and then you have like a blip for a while But then it gets back to it But man, you have to like make a concerted effort and how do you encourage people to have children? Like because you're gonna have to have women that don't pursue careers right if you're gonna have five kids like What are you gonna do? You're working all day, right? That's kind of crazy And when you have kids you realize how nuts that is because it's like man your kids they they want their parents You know, and that's good for them to have their parents around especially in this world of predators and creeps and weirdos Right and things that can happen at daycare Right. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's a it's I don't know how they would incentivize that to happen. How do you yeah? You can't you can't really Yeah, because people are selfish. They like they want what they want in their life and you know when Elon's like oh We're exposed in population of clubs they're like so not right by right going to the movies with my friends I mean like the idea of changing diapers like I don't want I don't like her that much stick around with her for the next 18 years Yeah, you also you also when you have the ability to choose everyone at your fingertips It's like Netflix when you can watch everything you watch nothing So we can choose everyone you can't you don't commit to anything right yeah, it's just because everything's these sort of Sopler-fuel is like kind of deep relationships I know a lot of people that have used the apps and then found someone to go off the apps So there are people but generally they're a little older mm-hmm, right? Yes, they're they're like at a certain age you sort of like look for that yeah But like when in your early 20 when people were like selling down in the 20s beforehand Yeah, it made sense. They were the only person around maybe like But now you're in a city you can just it can be if you're like in a big one in New York where there's like an endless stream of people There's no reason to make a choice if you don't want to I always saw a video of a lady who created an app where a man is allowed to pay for her preparation for the date So the man sends her money so they can she can get her nails done get closed for the day all these different things for the date And this lady set up this app damn a mic smart It's kind of prostitution. I mean, it's sure I mean, it's kind of without the guarantee of sex. I know it's weird. You're not just showing up. These are my clothes I drove him here in my car. I'm meeting a person No, it's that person is paying me to prepare for our date Right and creating me into a person in his head. It's well You're gonna get a very different kind of person that's gonna meet you You're gonna get a kind of person. It's willing to give you money immediately Before he has any connection with you at all right, like he might meet you and you're fucking super annoying He's like god damn it. I gave that bitch a hundred bucks. That's so far. That's a Richard Well, I think it was Richard Feynman. He was talking about getting girls because he was good at it And he was like yeah, I never paid for the drink on the first date I'm never something like that crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah That's not gonna get a lot of quality women. Ah, well, maybe it's back then. It was different. Yeah, and you're kind of famous Yeah, world. Yeah, he's a famous brilliant guy the scientist back then. We're all like rock stars Not crazy. Yeah, yeah, they're all like just fucking everyone around them Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and that was just making the atomic bomb just fucking losing their minds That was the crazy thing about the Oppenheimer thing, right? You're a hammer was a freak Good for him. It's just out there getting this fuck on. Yeah, fucking communist chicks. Yeah Probably fun. Oh, yeah, that's living especially back then is living dangerously That's the same level of that's the same level of commas the gay Republican Senator. It's like this is this is banned Right, right, right, right How many gay Republican senators you think there are I mean not zero Not yeah for sure in the closet not zero. No, definitely not it's usually the it is usually the ones that are like the most pro Like anyone who's like still very pro anti-game marriage now like loudly. It's like what's going on here or really in the war? We got to get those Iraqis out of there. Oh, oh Yeah, the fucking just so just war hawks with the rounds going through it right now. What's going on right now? Yeah, you don't know what's happening in our eye. No, but the protests. I know about killing the protests I mean, that's what yeah, I was because it seems like there's some sort of a strike that may be imminent You think it feels like it like from us states. Yeah, I think the US is kind of gonna stay back for a little bit You think so a week in the ran is their week right now Well, they're dealing with internal strife. It's kind of crazy to see how many people are on the streets I mean the Iranian the average Iranian civilian has gotten a pretty raw deal Since the 50s since we installed the Shah. Yeah, we installed the Shah and then Khomeini comes and is like hey, remember the democracy they stole from you because we had deposed the democracy an elected leader Well, we'll bring it back and they're like okay, and then the clerics just took over and fuck them And they've just been a constant stream of like the average the average of anians is just getting fucked by the Side forces for so long. Well, it's all about the nationalization of their oil. Yep. They wanted to nationalize their oil We like no play Fuck that Fuck that you think you're gonna have a control over your own state get out of here. Did you heard Metzger's theory about Venice whale last night? No, he said he goes I think I think Maduro a secret work of the CIA he helped them arrest him and then he is gonna testify that the 2020 elections were rigged Wow, if that comes true. What a what a what a baby booth call. What a point to the sky that is That comes true and buying you a car You'll find a car you're like we're gonna get your car. Yeah, that's crazy. You know American Muscle Girl I'll get you a Mustang GT or something But what's this when the Iranians protest? It's like admirable because you know they're gonna die a lot of them have already died A lot of them a lot of them died into the same with the hijab protests were just women were disappearing for not wearing a job It's like damn bro They really like it they've gotten a raw deal historically for the last half a century and they're still fighting Yeah, crazy. Yeah, I read when I was a kid I read this book called Persepolis It's in my like greatest books of all time, but it's I read Persepolis and I was like maybe in high school Early middle school and I just realized like oh man because you get Bombard especially at that time. We're in fighting in the Middle East You get bombarded with propaganda of like what these people like over there. I'm reading Persepolis I'm like oh right. They're just people Like she has a scene where she's just wanting to listen to music with her friends, but the Islamic police is like Will fucking fuck them up If they get caught and they just have these secret parties were just listening to music secret listening to music Listening to jail. Yeah, just regular things What is this Venezuela? I believe opposition litter Maria Corina Machado insists that Maduro rig the 2020 US elections against Donald Trump and many other elections in the region What? I saw that going around too. So I don't know that hurts too crazy on that one What? Yeah, there's a this isn't even the first this was just so showing you the data. How could Maduro Rig United States elections? Yeah, what yeah, what is where's that power coming from All of a sudden because if the power to rig election, you think he would be able to stop himself from getting arrested This is from the Grey Zone. It says Hugo El Polo Carvajal Carvajal is likely to serve as the star witness for the US against Maduro Max Blumenthal reveals Carvajal is a coerced witness who cut a secret plea deal to save himself He's even indulging the Trump Trump's conspiracy theory that Venezuela rigged the 2020 US election Hmm the great what's the Grey Zone is that so I think that's Max Blumenthal's show Okay, so that's like a source yeah, okay, okay. He's legit. Okay. Yeah anti-war um So if if he's saying that maybe there's something to do it damn How would he how would he what mechanism would Maduro be able to I just want to do an election and would are okay? Let's find that out How do they think Maduro how to hand in rigging the 2020 election? What's the conspiracy? Yeah, was it like he Did all the like he helped with the mail-in votes? Right because that's the only that's the only way you can steal that election right like Venezuela's pretty far away Here's a tweet from before the election even happened Nicholas Maduro's campaign manager This is from 2024 just went on national TV declare victory despite exit polls showing a historic loss for their socialist regime They're setting up to commit a bigger election theft in the 2020 election in the United States No, that's not that's just someone's opinion. Yeah, how does that add up? They're stealing the election. Yeah, because they stole it in Venezuela But they did steal it in Venezuela. Yeah, that's for sure What does it say? I'm looking around that this is it says he he did Clearly stole Venezuela's election threatened bloodshed if he lost restricted Uh, what is that intel? What is a was national observer international observers? Uh block transmission of results Yeah, that that definitely happened. I mean it was very telling how happy the Venezuelans in America were When he was gone. Yeah, that wasn't that was a genuine thing if they were Very very pleased about that. Mm-hmm. Yeah, and then you had people you had like white leftist be like this is bad Yeah, yeah supporting a dictator It's like in the way they did it was a one precedent to go and storm the fucking castle and steal the guy Yeah, it kind of shows the power like kind of tells also the other countries like hey back off Well, it's pretty crazy what they did if it's true with that whole sonar weapon or sound weapon Whatever it did that like literally like makes your organs bubble She never really falls to the ground They're in writhing and pain and agony and then they just stormed in and everybody was incapacitated Damn stormed in fucked everybody up and that was a wrap Well, if that's what war is becoming that's kind of better. It's kind of crazy That's kind of better than like ground troops and nonstop fighting in 20 years in Afghanistan Okay, here's lawyer Sydney Powell in 2020 talking about Maduro having access to voting fraud technology Maduro's going to sing like a canary and the Democrats are screwed. No wonder what okay. Is that late even real? That that that looks like a no, I'm done the avatar that the person the person tweeting this See this this this weeks of botany yeah follow me for breaking news. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, how why do you know Or just guy clearly could account clearly just making stuff up See if you can find an account of how they did it because there's an account by someone who was a witness That was there at the scene that said how fucking crazy it was At these guys came out of nowhere the helicopter just came out of the nowhere the drones they shut down all the radar Everything got shut down and then also there's drones flying everywhere and helicopters and these dudes 20 guys Killed you know who knows how many fucking humans right no one got killed on the American side They captured him and his wife stuffed him back in the helicopter and they were in and out in 10 minutes Yeah, there's that there's a very famous video of a twitch streamer in Venezuela just out in the streets and then everything just Really yeah, whoa Yeah, it just goes dark Damn, that's crazy and yeah, you can you and you're a human you can take like oh something's up Yeah, this is not a normal everything like all the street let it went just dark Well, it's crazy because we knew they had some really wild technology But they didn't know we didn't know what they were capable of until we've seen this right like oh What's really interesting is my friend Evan Hafer was talking about that Like a year ago on the podcast he was talking about it Maybe less than a year who's like if we go to war with the cartels like they have no idea What kind of ultraviolence they're in for he's like the shit that these guys are gonna do when they get when they're gonna plan this out They had a they built a replica of his house and they went through it blindfolded Yeah, so they know exactly where every turn is where to go they they get war planned this for a long time Everything was False stories which one over the live stream going out. Yeah, right, but find the account of the Witness I stumbled across that on the way to it. Okay, the the accounts of the guy who said he was there if it's accurate It's crazy because he's basically said they just incapacitated everyone and then just went and murdered everybody and pulled Pulled out Maduro like no one could move you can't do anything and then these guys land in helicopters Riding in agony like Just running through damn whacked everybody. No one got shot back at Crazy. Yeah, but I think yeah, I think that's what warfare outside of what's happening in Russia Ukraine That's kind of what warfare is now right like oh is is around gonna is real gonna go to war with Iran We'll just quickly just take out all their government all their generals real quick Well, that's if you threat of war is done, you know, you're dealing with Venice will versus the United States of America Right, but if it was the United States of America, but it's Russia or China it'd be a lot different. It's a lot more fucked up Yeah, Venice will does never nuclear bombs. That's why right away with shit like this Yeah, that's a fair point That is part of the thing, you know, and then it's like the whole thing so transparent Trump's like immediately We're gonna take the oil is plenty of oil. Oh, yeah, we're gonna deal. Yeah, I don't think it was a coincidence in all of a sudden There was I had gas on there are two dollars last week in the gas station across the street I was like, I wonder if that's Venezuela related non-Galifornia. Oh, no Gas companies are pulling out Valero pulled out of California. It's gonna cost them one billion dollars And they're like yeah, it's not where they'd rather leave. Yeah, damn you. Yeah, the cost of living there is so high too It's like like when we talk about like young comics. It's like It's what you have in Austin is like at least a way a much cheaper quality of life And better and better. Yeah, where you have space and like you know Things are more expensive than anywhere else in Texas probably for sure But like it's still like gas was under two dollars. You can get you can like rent is stabilizing It's going down. It's gonna go down I think a lot of like California New York developers came in here and there were like Austin's where people are so we can just build a lot But in New York and California, you have a finite amount of space And Austin you can just build out and once you build out like the rent that my place went down because people were like all just buy a house out there Right and no one's living in the department complex and it dry like you know like if you live in dripping springs It's way cheaper and it's only 30 minutes away. Yeah, everywhere in the country 30 minute commute is normal right Right, yeah, it's normal here here. Yeah, it's he it's nice about here as you'll see something that's 15 minutes It'll be 15 miles like oh, that's that's normal That's normal It's a hour yeah, it was an hour and a half no it was almost two hours. I went from Rodondo Beach To fucking Burbank after a podcast at five and I was like oh, I should have just killed myself That would have been a more effective use of my time locked up. Yeah When the 405 or the five gets locked up. It's depressing. Oh, it's hell that trip down to San Diego if you want to do the Loyal store you get to leave early you got to leave it noon. Mm-hmm leave it noon Mm-hmm. That means you'd be down in San Diego right around the time rush hour starts. Yeah, yeah Crazy. Yeah, it's it's but yeah, it's just a cheaper place to like for a young comic who like if it's time to move to a place Yeah, it's like Austin does offer a cheaper quality for a quality stage time as well It's not just a better vibe. There's less tension. There's less people Yes, yes, I feel like there are times where I would take a day off in LA And I feel like I'm falling behind because everyone around you's so frantic And here it's like oh, I can breathe. I can actually just enjoy this day off which is important You got to have some kind of balance. Yes, you want to be a little bit frantic But then you got to you got to achieve some balance and let your brain sort of recalibrate come back on Just get a new perspective. Yeah, rest is so we're so have this so this grind culture for a Get into this though the same kind of thing. I'll check the account. Fucked up account Main proponent for the drive to recall Gavin Newsom California needs rebuild the better So it might be a fake person and then there's no there's no evidence To like a link or where they got the information from Which is why I just checked first, but they didn't just have a long story here It just says interview security guard. So it could be total propaganda, right? Yeah, you made up for me You know you could ask me how to make up a story what Right, and then yeah, just don't try to find it anywhere else is it only from this one guy? Yeah That's why I was fine. It was Caroline Levin Shared it This is the that's the main account where she shared it from what you're doing and read this I googled that and she said she said that a ton of time. How long has Caroline Levin the press secretary this whole time right? Don't aren't they how quickly do they move past those? They usually last about two years to get for that last one. Yeah, I wonder that's the president She decided to hang in there to bitter and they were trying to get rid of her. She sucked to St. Pierre right? Yeah Whatever name was was it St. Pierre? I thought it was something like green Jean Pierre. Okay Yeah, she was terrible She did forever and again the president is committed the president like she would do like the Obama thing fingers. Yeah They just try she had a lie all the time like that's her job dead person. Yeah That's hard to do that's pretty like you know Yeah, they keep juggling a lot to be like oh this dead person still alive I thought he was gonna die like immediately after he left office. I'm like he's gonna die soon like real soon Yeah, it's kind of wild. He's kept going But every now and then he'll they'll trot him out and he'll start talking. He'll be at an Eagles game He's like yeah, you know what's going on But every now and then they'll they'll he'll talk they still let him talk like in it There's been a few of those were he'll talk like thank god you didn't win She's If you came back if you know they never replace comla with you And you won or you comla and you won and you're this guy now Well, yeah, well he fucked them by Not bowing out Yeah, yeah, it's like let him at least let him have a primary Because then it just became comla was trumping the whole like oh vote for me to fight fascism But no one voted for you in the first place the thing is that they had a primary who do you think would have been it They probably made her It would have been the Democrats would have decided on her anyway Because it would have been too soon for newsroom to run. He still has that stink of covid on him So he's that's why he waited for this this go around. Yeah, it's been enough people have forgotten covid enough It's been more than half a decade since It people's minds like people's political memories are so short Yeah, 2022 that's so far away from covid that he can he can just be like yeah, I did fine or whatever the fuck Do you think so I think so I then enough to enough to run enough to probably get the nomination You think he's gonna get the nomination who else Who else can rise over the next three years someone was someone else would have it If it would have been an Obama thing it would be like someone would be rising in this upcoming midterm So if there's someone like that But all takes to someone who's a compelling speaker who's not demonstrably full of shit because the thing about him is He's so vulnerable to any kind of a debate when someone starts talking about the fraud and wasting California How about the high-speed rail they spend billions of dollars is like nothing? And I think soon we're gonna get it done soon. All right. There's so much fraud so much waste Yeah, but I don't think they have anything because you can right now all you can run you can just run on like I'm not Trump And that'll be enough to get people to be like yeah, he's not Trump. What about that Josh Shapiro guy the guy is a governor of Pennsylvania Maybe I don't know. It's just to me. It's like a police. It's just like a political a popularity contest and he's making a lot of noise a lot of people Outside of the Jews right now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's fair point. Yeah. That's a fair Shapiro. Hmm. It just seems like hmm That's good point. It just seems like he's the one making the most noise and we're getting we're getting towards crunch time Not really, but like it's the closer we get to the midterms and there's no other big voice It makes me feel like it's gonna be him. Well clearly he wants to do he definitely wants to do it And he might just be powerful politically enough to win that nomination that guy fucks up San Francisco fucks up California and then goes on to fuck up the whole country. Oh, it's very possible I think he maybe not very possible, but I think it's it's a it's an outcome It's an outcome. He's definitely running. It's gonna be it's I don't know what that ticket's gonna be but They're gonna make us all trans. Yeah, it was gonna be like it's gonna be like a newsome rocket That's my early call of what they're gonna show you the fuck up. Are you kidding? Yeah, I think so. I think we're telling yeah Yeah, I think that's why she's very revered. I'm a OC Maybe a OC. I think a OC is more reasonable. A OC is much more reasonable For sure she went rocket marjorie Taylor Green start going after back and forth with each other insulting each other and yelling each other No, I had that's oh yeah, I didn't see that that's a very very fun moment Oh Nobody wants to be a representative. That's the thing. It's like all these successful people and academics like they don't want to do that No, it's all like lawyers and like yeah and creeps and creeps. Yeah, that's the only Well, it's like it's one of those things where it you're right the person who wants to do it probably isn't or person who should do it Probably gonna want to do it 100% because you do have to make decisions that negatively affect millions of people's lives sometimes And you got to grease the pockets of your donors. Yeah, and to be like a regular guy and want to do that was probably would tear you apart To be like, oh, here's a decision that'll kill people you gotta be kind of a sociopath What's really fucked is how much of an impact people like us have on elections now That's what's not it's like podcasters have a big impact on elections now Well, that's how it's really weird. That's how much the mainstream media has kind of lost its lead drop the ball drop the ball hardcore Well, it's just by being unreliable. Like being people that you can't trust and uncensored conversation is like People are gonna trust that more because this is how this is how people talk to their friends more often than not Yeah, then like oh, I can't say this because this sponsor is gonna be mad at me right, you know like this This is this just a much more accessible way of finding out people's real thoughts and a lot of it It's just how we talk I mean this we there's been so many times we've been in the green room that totally could have been a podcast Right Just put a camera on it live in the green room. It would fuck up the vibe right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it would fuck up the vibe. Yeah, it would lose that quality or that would make it a good podcast if we were trying to actually podcast Yeah, yeah, yeah All right, brother. Well, I'll see you tonight. I'll see you tonight and tell everybody specials out on YouTube right now It's called too soon check it out. It's a very proud of this material. It's great material man And you've been killing it you've been killing at the club and the new stuff's fantastic too Thank you, and yeah, go to a side hair Every time I've been on here with a different hair Today, today went cornrows Yeah, you had the cornrows for a while now, right? Just a week or so. I did it for a sketch and then I was like Kind of like this. Yeah, it's crazy for this guy this Hairline that cornrows. All right, my brother. Appreciate you. See tonight. See you tonight. Bye, buddy you