Welcome to perceived reality. I'm your host, Nadia Atwal. Quantum AI can pose a tremendous threat to you. My next two guests will make sure that you are protected. Welcome to the show. Patrick Kern and Eric Dressdale. I'm so happy to see you because you are game changers in this industry and you are making sugar protected. Yes, I was. Alright, I want to dive a little bit first into your personal business journey. How did you guys find each other and what motivated you to get into this specific industry? So for my part, Nadia, it's been over the course of a couple of decades and it's been all over the world. From Johannesburg, Toronto to Paris, San Francisco, Washington, and they've all had a calming fee. And that is really trying to make things more secure and better, sitting behind the scenes and just making a better change for people's lives. Weather was for Thompson Writers, runs for companies like Idemia, and even helping countries, for example, in Africa and in South Asia. And you've learned that there's just a common, no, dean right across the board. Bad guys always get better at what they do. And it's up to us to figure out ways that we stay in a head of what I would call and also from the former head of the Coast Guard, stay ahead of probably some of the most entrepreneurial bad guys on the planet. How's that you, Irmy? Well, this is my third tech start up. And I always like tackling frahblowers that are going to help all the employees. So my first competitive was I grew up on a three-bit debit card for mental health, addiction, and then I moved into biometric digital identity to stop braw there. And then through that, we actually came up with the way, how do we bring identity to the billion people around the world that's our habit? How do we provide identity to climb to more refugees and must sure be a possible? And one of the people that's part of this project and my previous co-founder Richard King came up with a really novel idea, well let's use the most chaotic or a prop Ignasual phenomenon in the universe, which is cosmic-rich issue, and bring it into cube satellites. And this was right around the time this was early 2018 with conceptual eyeshows. Right around the time Starlink is starting to set satellites up. So we said, well we could use their points of point laser for global distribution, or battle breach about the serial initiatives that act as fast forward. I met our third co-founder and technical CEO David Harding, who then introduced me to this level as gentleman to your check. And we spent a couple years working on a different thing. At the end of 2023, that company received that Pat Soria past soon. Yeah. Called up David, and I said there's something here. I'm not the technologist. And he said you're not filling that Pat. And we called up Patr, we started this company, and it's been a wonderful ride. That was February of 2024, so we're still pretty early on this journey. We're moving back. We literally incorporated last year January 3rd. We're all very young. Yes, we are young. And powerful already. That is interesting. I mean, your big thing is the quantum resistance security. I would like to know what led you exactly to that, and how did you combat it? How are you tackling that? Because this is a very complex issue that is affecting many companies, many individuals. So how are you going about it? So every single organization that utilizes any kind of encryption, which means every thing. And everything. And everything. They all have a foundational way of being able to send encrypted and decrypted information. It is the combination of two things. Algorithms and entropy, chaos. And the strength of the both of the two of them gives you a level of safety as you communicate or encrypt data across the board. This is what runs this stock exchange at the end of the day. And if you're able to take this core and move it in a way that really moves up the level without changing any infrastructure, and we mean without changing any infrastructure, you can have a path that actually has encryption, which can resist existing artificial intelligence and future direct, brief, forced attacks. So the beauty of it is we have taken a wonderful technology that Eric and Richard and we bolted on some additional things to it, which is a patent that took us no less than 83 days from filing to fully uncontested. There are 20 foundational points. Under the name. It is literally the first artificial intelligence, a proftware driven 100% random number generation. And it can feed any key that has the ability to be resistant to a point where it would be AI and quantum resistant. So the reason why that's important is because organizations all around the world are spending hundreds and tens of billions of dollars. We know one organization that's spending 12 billion dollars over five years just to modify its infrastructure. In that case, we can bring it down by over 90%. And we can start today. Oh. Who's your typical client? Well, government, national security is obviously one of them. And then on that because we're a dual use company on the private side, we're looking at data centers and then obviously regularity controls. So you're looking at banking. We include cryptocurrency. It's not bucket as well. Healthcare, telecoms, logistics, anything that falls into that regular jewelry faucet. That's who our main target is because that is who those adversaries that they should do that. They want to designate our infrastructure and work that way. And it goes even further. When you fate about artists performing artists, you know, making sure that their materials, their music, their books, what have you, is secure live television events. It seems like that. It seems right now that nothing is secure in that industry. That's exactly the point. And the problem statement really has been the response by the conventional, you know, respectfully needs to catch up a little bit. It's a street. And they've all said the following concept. It's going to be long. It's going to be hard. And it's going to be really expensive to transition this industry into being quantum and AI secure. We deny that outright. It is not, does not take long. It is not hard. And an example I just gave, if a lot less expensive. To piggyback on what he was saying, well, we're offering what we do is an orderly tech, it's orderly upgrade to your terabal as patcher flood. And out earlier, with no changes to your existing architecture and distruster, it is seamless. It is easy. This pasta vector. And they can turn that on and push back the threat of AI and flop. So today, I am used to that. And it's necessary. And especially since AI is evolving so fast, you are evolving with it. Well, I will tell you, well, you know, one of the things that we have built, let's do the process that get impacted right now, is a novel way of measuring engine. You create an entropy calculate. And part of what we do there is we actually use AI to find hitting patterns, and hidden patterns within hidden patterns. And so of work capability doing that, you know, others are. And so if any organization has weak keys, you would get weak keys from core entropy, right? Not enough random fees. You better believe that AI is going to find those hidden patterns and exploit those more, however. And it gets even more interesting on the perspective that we can run this literally everywhere. I can do it on my phone. I can run it on my phone. I can run it inside the secure environment, whether it's on premise or even if it's off premise. It doesn't matter to us. And what you've done, in this case, we have fundamentally changed the notion of how to operate modern post-quantum pot. Well, I have to say, I had not much of a clue about this before. I was diving a little bit into it. And now I find this as necessary as a bodyguard. It's basically your digital bodyguard in many ways. To do the right end. And those who have the most highly entropic source, they can do this consistently. And at scale, for us, it's not. We keep silent. Any environment is massive. What we have essentially done is from a mathematical perspective. We're located at the chaos of the U of R, the U of R, the 150 megabytes off. We're not. Actually, it's not just one universe. We've actually done its 15 universes. We have literally created mathematically speaking. I love it. Well, I was aware of the thread, but all these details, these are so valuable. And our audience takes it all away from it because it's amazing. I hope they can all absorb it and investigate a little more. And check out your website because it's very informative. And you're doing such important work. And I hope that you both come back. Oh, we really are. And we have a 20-minute video that actually gets into the technical side of how we go at it. So we have a lovely website, 3-speed. It is. It is a wonderful website. I was on it, loved it, and it was. I was able to understand it, to comprehend it. And I think that's important that people, because sometimes when people understand it gets scared. As you say, then letting all this must take long. All this must be expensive. And actually, it's not. But it's a necessity. And I'm very glad that you're here. Fantastic. Yeah. I'm going to have this conversation with you. I want to continue that book. This was another episode of perceived reality. Join us again next time.