The Toast

Whoopi Was Robbed: Tuesday, May 12th, 2026

63 min
May 12, 202618 days ago
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Summary

The Toast hosts discuss Sports Illustrated's 2026 cover announcement featuring four models (Alex Earl, Hilary Duff, Nicole Williams English, Tiffany Haddish), major TV upfronts from NBC, Fox, and Amazon with new show announcements, and Kylie Kelsey's Webby Award win. The episode includes advice segments addressing relationship concerns about mysterious flowers, deceptive purchases, and hidden vaping habits.

Insights
  • Sports Illustrated's multi-cover strategy dilutes iconic status compared to single-cover tradition; editorial choices now follow trends rather than set them
  • Television upfronts reveal networks chasing reality TV trends (Secret Lives of Mormon Wives phenomenon) rather than innovating, indicating shift in content leadership
  • Deception in relationships—even about small purchases or habits—erodes trust more than the underlying issue itself; honesty is foundational to partnership
  • Influencer culture and podcast success create accountability mechanisms (public platforms amplify complaints) that smaller voices lack
  • Multi-format meal concepts (meatballs, tacos, lettuce wraps) represent globalized home cooking where technique matters more than cultural authenticity
Trends
Reality TV consolidation: Amazon and streaming platforms entering unscripted space previously dominated by cable networks like BravoCelebrity casting from 'book-to-screen' pipeline: Florence Pugh, Emma Roberts part of established reader-to-actor pathway for literary adaptationsInfluencer accountability: Public platforms force brands/hotels to over-correct (full comps) rather than minimal gesturesMulti-cover magazine strategy replacing iconic single-cover model; editorial impact diminished by group presentationWellness retreat reality format emerging as new genre combining therapy, celebrity, and personal growth narrativesCasual dining culture shift: 'Grab a slice' energy and park picnics replacing formal dining for young familiesLab-grown and Amazon diamonds disrupting luxury jewelry market; authenticity and transparency becoming relationship issues
Topics
Sports Illustrated Cover Model Selection StrategyTelevision Network Upfront Events and Programming AnnouncementsReality TV Show Development and Casting TrendsBook-to-Film Adaptations in Streaming EraRelationship Trust and Deception in MarriageInfluencer Accountability and Brand ResponsePodcast Industry Awards and RecognitionCelebrity Road Rage IncidentsLuxury Goods Authentication and DeceptionAddiction and Spousal HonestyPostpartum Anxiety and Relationship ConcernsTelevision Upfront Strategy and Content TrendsWellness Retreat Reality ProgrammingJewelry Market DisruptionParenting and Casual Dining Culture
Companies
Sports Illustrated
Announced 2026 swimsuit cover models; hosts criticized multi-cover strategy for diluting iconic status
NBC Universal
Hosted upfront event announcing Summer House reunion clips, Jimmy Fallon/Bose show cancellation, and new programming
Fox
Participated in upfront events with cast appearances from Ladies and Brooks
Amazon Prime Video
Announced 'Reality Retreat' show featuring reality TV alumni on wellness retreat; entering unscripted content space
Bravo
Announced 'Secrets Lies Texas Wives' show; hosts noted network now follows trends rather than sets them
Peacock
Announced vertical series with Madison the Queries about styling and hair confessionals
Netflix
Announced Earl family show with title reveal pending; book-to-screen adaptation strategy
Hulu
Hosts noted Hulu has become leading destination for unscripted TV, replacing Bravo's former dominance
Spirit Airlines
Referenced in James Charles vaping incident; went bankrupt, triggering go-fund-me discussion
Mohegan Sun
Hotel chain mentioned in context of hosts' travel experiences and New England casino culture
Zabar's
NYC specialty food store where host picked up pre-made items for casual park dining
People
Whoopi Goldberg
Hosts joked she should have been Sports Illustrated cover model instead of announced selections
Alex Earl
Named as Sports Illustrated 2026 cover model; hosts praised her cover as most editorial and iconic
Hilary Duff
Sports Illustrated 2026 cover model; hosts criticized her cover photo composition and positioning
Nicole Williams English
Sports Illustrated 2026 cover model from Wags; hosts noted her pregnancy announcement on SI runway
Tiffany Haddish
Sports Illustrated 2026 cover model; hosts praised her unexpected body reveal
James Charles
Beauty influencer criticized for TikTok rant about influencer responsibility to donate to go-fund-mes
Kylie Kelsey
Won Webby Award for Podcast of the Year; gave five-word speech 'Women supporting women go birds'
Florence Pugh
Actress cast as protagonist Norisey in Midnight Library film adaptation
Benedict Cumberbatch
Actor involved in 10-minute road rage incident with cyclist; hosts discussed celebrity behavior
Kenya Moore
Reality TV personality cast in Amazon's 'Reality Retreat' wellness show
Margaret Josephs
Reality TV personality cast in Amazon's 'Reality Retreat' wellness show
Kim Zolciak
Reality TV personality cast in Amazon's 'Reality Retreat' wellness show
Christine Quinn
Reality TV personality cast in Amazon's 'Reality Retreat' wellness show
Tamar Braxton
Reality TV personality cast in Amazon's 'Reality Retreat' wellness show
David Ushery
Local NYC news correspondent; hosts discussed potentially having him on namesake podcast
Quotes
"It's never the crime. It's always the cover up."
Jackson-ClaudeDear Toasters segment
"Your word is everything. If you don't have your word, like you have nothing."
Jackson-ClaudeDear Toasters advice segment
"Women supporting women go birds."
Kylie KelseyWebby Award acceptance speech
"Nothing can be iconic when you're a part of a group. I'm sorry. We have not had an iconic cover ever again."
HostSports Illustrated discussion
"There's something so special about pizza when you're a kid because it really marks like a celebration."
HostOpening segment
Full Transcript
Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast. It's Jackson-Claude and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the Fast 5 Things You Need to Know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to the toast. Happy Tuesday. Actually, it feels more like Tuesday because the kind of the breaking news that Sports Illustrated has finally chosen someone. Chosen four, of course. Some few, yeah. The covers came out this morning. Of course, we'll get into it in the stories. I just- Our predictions- We're correct. Could not have been more wrong. Willbie Goldberg is on the cover of Sports Illustrated. Willbie Goldberg is your 2026 Sports Illustrated. Rookie of the Year. Rookie of the Year. Rookie of the Year. I know that they were scrambling and I know they're going to work it out for next year, but I'm excited to discuss the covers. Which we will do in the first story. Which we will do in the first story. Jackson, how you doing? Beyond the covers, how are we doing? I'm doing good. You know, great. Great Tuesday, starting off on a good foot. What did I do yesterday? I had a fun day. Oh, I was cooking for them kids. We had all the kids over. Made some meatballs. Made some pasta. I had a meatball in a minute. Yeah, no. I took a break and now I'm making them once a week again. So good. Such an easy weeknight dinner. The thing with meatballs is once you have them, you get into a toxic cycle where you have them a couple of times a week. And then you hate them so you stop eating them. And then a month goes by and you're like, wait, why don't I make meatballs anymore? And just thus continues the vicious cycle. But what I like about the meatballs that we make is they could really be like dressed up or down for any occasion. You could go Italian. You could go like Thai, you know. Thai. You could go a little like Asian fusion. Just personally, like I like my meatballs Italian. But you love Melinda's. I do love Melinda's Thai chili seasoning, not in my meatballs, in my lettuce wraps, in my Thai chicken lettuce wraps. But a lettuce wrap is just a deconstructed meatball. Well, so that's also a part of growing up is realizing like eight different meals are just made the exact same way, but like in different forms. So in different countries like the cheese quesadilla is the grilled cheese of the south. I guess it is except that like grilled cheese. I'm sorry. Anyone who puts even a tomato in their grilled cheese is fucking crazy. Like a grilled cheese with eight dollars worth of Yall's Berg is perfect, right? So it's like, it's like better when you add veggies, meat. Like it's not just cheese, but I hear you're saying, are we going to have cheese and dough this way or that way today? Yeah. Are we going to have ground meat and onions this way or that way? Like meatballs, bolognese, like you could literally do chicken lettuce wraps like tacos meat. Like it's all the same ingredients with like different seasonings. Yeah. But it's also it's it's very like, you know, worldly experience. Where are we going to die in this evening around the world? Last evening I dined at Zabars. What you had Zabars for dinner? Yeah, you know, I picked up so I was being so I've actually been like so chill lately. Very grab a slice energy. Okay. Like when we were in our trip, which I have to update you guys on in a minute. When we were on our trip, we were playing billiards and Ben was like, this is so grab a slice. And it was like so like just spending the afternoon playing billiards. And then last night we just like went to the park and it was like four or five o'clock. So we're like, oh, should we pick up? We picked up some like pre made stuff from Zabars like some, you know, stuff and it was so chill. It was very grab a slice. Oh, that's nice. I've been chill as well. Like I feel like last week I was a little too chill. Like I think we forgot to eat. No, we ordered in like probably three. I usually like to order like once maybe twice and by order and like either pick something up. But like now on Tuesdays, like we order pizza with like the that's so chill. We'll go to the park or something like with like the Shapiro kids and it like it just was sort of born of necessity, but it's very chill. And it's very fun. There's something so special about pizza when you're a kid, I guess, because it really marks like a celebration. You're not you're eating pizza like a birthday party or like a gathering like pizza. And you know what as an adult, I want to say it's just as special. The box of pizza when I see like a stack of boxes, you know, it's about to go the fuck, you know, it's on and poppin. Like what is it about pizza that's like so joyous celebratory? Yeah, joyous. Yeah. I don't know if it's the shape like it's just beautiful. Yeah. So I think that we're going to have a pizza night tonight. I knew a pizza afternoon. I need a slice of pizza when I was pregnant. I was always treating myself to a slice of pizza. I don't know why I stopped doing that. Do it. Treat yourself. Turn up. Grab a slice. I did want to update everyone about my jewel saga from yesterday because I now feel confident that I was very much underreacting. And there were things that could have gone wrong with this jewel that I didn't even think of until I told the story. And then people in the comments were like, yeah, and jewels are known for just like randomly exploding facts. I didn't even think of the fact that like Ruby could have found it and like started chewing on it. Like I wasn't thinking like broken off a piece of it. It's a choking hazard. It was so much worse. It was under the mattress. Thank God. I of course heard from the facility. Now it's wrong that I only heard from them because I have a podcast. You know what I mean? What about the mothers with jewels in their crimps who don't have a podcast? Like it's wrong. But you're doing it for them. Yes. And full transparency. I did get my entire trip. Compt, which is not even what I wanted. I really thought that they had made it right. Maybe comping like one night or like a free massage at the spa. Now they ended up spending more money and getting their name dragged through the mud because they couldn't have just been generous or just like done the right thing. So just full transparency. I did get a full refund and let this be your sign to all the mamas out there. Like you're not underreacting and you should make it a bigger deal. But then you hate to be like, oh, you're only giving me a $250 credit because it's like, well, that's not why I'm mad. Like, you know what I mean? Like, no, I don't seem like you're only getting mad. So you get a credit. No, no, no. I just, I don't feel like that feels that way. I don't. Yeah. Somebody said, like, if you've ever set up a pack and play to you would know that you need a vape. A teenager, a teenager who has no idea to set up a pack and play. Like, obviously he was stressed puffing on that jewel. Okay. And they can like do a little less and just drop the pack and play at your room and the parents know how to set it up. And I actually think that that should be like a hotel policy in general. Yeah. Like I should have said, I need someone's like hands touching. Yeah. I was actually shocked when it arrived fully assembled. I was quite thrilled. I'm not going to lie. Yeah. I don't know. I guess if it didn't arrive assembled, we'd be like, oh my gosh. Or sometimes they extended crib and it's like, who's going to put this crib together? This is a script for me. It's not going to be me. Plus they know how their things work. Every pack and play has a little work. So they made it right. They made it right. We're all good. We're fine. And you did say other like nice things about the hotel. Yeah. In general, that's not like a thing that we subscribe to like putting like a business on glass. I know. But you were also just talking about the hotel in general and the spa and the divot for the breast. And so like we just wanted to know what hotel you were at. The divot for the brass. You didn't like say it to be like, and you, Nathuri Carter, Mohegan's son. Don't bring Mohegan's son into this. They would never. Wait, what? I thought you said it's the Mohegan. What? The name. Now you're just barraging more businesses. No, Mohegan's son is in Connecticut. The name of the collection of hotels. I don't want to say it again because you know, they made it right. And it's on the montage. That is like the parent company. Yes. Oh, that is Mohegan's son. I haven't ever actually been to Mohegan's son as like a born and bred New Englander. Am I in New England? No. No. Okay. I said New England over the weekend. I was like, I don't think I'm actually like in New England. So Northeast as a born and bred Northeastern arm. I've never been to Mohegan's son and it's sort of like a ride of passage. I think we should go. Yeah. I feel like our time passed. We thought like there was a time where we should have gone for sure. Yeah. Yeah. When we used to go to like Fox trots. Fox woods. Atlantic City. Yeah. Yeah. We should have turned a Mohegan's son weekend, but they're always having fire concerts. Yeah. You know, so if you're out there and you want to go, you should go. It's never too late. Actually, it is too late to go to Mohegan's son for some people. For us. Yeah. But like there's no time like the present is what I meant to say. That's beautiful. There's no time like the present. It is Tuesday, which means we have dear toasters and I took some of the feedback from the DTQ, you know, the ever present DTQ. It was getting dark just to like scale back a little bit on the darkness. I found them interesting, but I agree. Like that's not what this podcast is about. I'm sorry. I'm sorry for like all the pedophilia and like sex crimes. Such a buzz kill. A thousand percent. So we've got some lighthearted like, you know, P job. P job, boyfriend. Yeah. The P and P job actually common misconception does not stand for pedophile. Like, sorry guys. I have to tell you that. I'm glad to hear that because it was getting heavy to have a load. I see you. I hear you as always the DTQ. I am your vessel and I am your messenger and I will, I will make it right. Good. We actually have so many stories today. I have to sort of like organize them because it's definitely more than five and the leftovers from yesterday. I didn't make the cut for sure. What was it? Like James Charles. Oh, you know, people really did want to hear you take about that. I know mine. Yeah. Why me specifically? Cause you're like a smart, fun, interesting person with a podcast. Like, is that okay? Yeah, yeah, sure. Happy, happy to oblige. My take is like he, he wants to get backlash. Like no person in their right mind. Right. Goes on a rant like that. That is like textbook. What you can say, what you can do. Like he wants all of this. This is like maybe things were a little quiet on the James Charles front. Do I have to have him on namesake? James Charles. James. Oh, Charles. I guess I was like last names. Don't count. I guess like I could have him on namesake if I wanted to. You know who we have to have on namesake? Who? Charles from younger. Oh, David ushery. You guys, when we were in high school, there was, you know, in every yellow cab, there was a taxi TV and then we play like the same four clips. And one of the guys, he's like a local news correspondent who obviously got demoted to the taxi TV segment. His name is David ushery. U S H E R Y. And he was always like, Hey, there in the back seat of the taxi, I'm David ushery. And it was like, is that my brother? Like it was insane. We will definitely have money. What? Yeah. I wonder what's up to the local reporter. He's definitely crushing it. I actually think he's risen the ranks quite a bit and he's like a big local NBC correspondent. We're always rooting for him. I'm always rooting for David ushery and shadow veteran. And Sandy Kenyon. Why is any Kenyon like a toaster? Yeah, no, actually, I take it back. I love Sandy Kenyon. But back to James. I'm standing Kenyon with the eyewitness news. Move a minute. James Charles like wants this to be happening. So all of it to me seems completely like fake because for anyone who's unfamiliar, he went on a rant on TikTok over the weekend. Just basically like talking about this message. He got somebody being like, can you donate to my go fund me? And it was like a person who didn't follow him. Someone who got like laid off from spirit airlines abruptly when they went Mahala. And he just like did this fucking rant on like how like why it's influencers responsibilities to donate to go fund me and like you don't even follow me. And it's like spirit airlines get your shit together and go get a job. Like it was the type of thing you think, but you don't ever say like ever. No, and he has been an influencer for over a decade. He knows that that is like a one way trick ticket to backlash cancellation bill. And I think he wanted a trip there because it is exciting and fun to get on the ride sometimes. And it does like sort of we're all talking about exciting and fun, but it is an indicator of success. Like people who have real followings get backlash. It's like a signal that you are, you know, have an impact that you have influence. If you're shouting into a void, there's no backlash because no one's listening. So it is sort of like a rite of passage. I think he was just doing like a gut check. Are people still listening to me? Great. Great. I like, I actually am not going to like opine on what he meant and whether there was merit because he's baiting all of you and not me. What did you think about it? I agree a thousand percent. You like what, why on earth would you say that? I just want to say, I do think there's one thing that he said that had merit. Just one. If you are going to send your go fund me, which you absolutely should to influencers, like it's a huge opportunity. Like you should just follow them. Like, right. This is courtesy, you know, it just, and it also helps your chances. Absolutely. Getting the donation and getting the donation. It's not even the donation so much as like the platform. Well, it helps your chances of like the visibility within the platform, but also like your influencer might want to do you a solid. Like if they think that you're a fan of theirs, that would help. I just want to say there is a lot of, and I don't want to like, you know, I don't want to get canceled for James Charles as a grimes, but there's a fair amount of scamming that goes on and go fund me. So when you are a person with a platform, you do have to be really careful about which ones you post. Yeah. It happens a lot. Yeah. I would say the majority of go fund me's are like good, honest things, but you just got to be careful. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of things, you know, the internet's a crazy place. You don't know this person. You're telling me this account of this account me yesterday. Like you just don't know. So yeah, just sort of, I don't know. Hey, I think just do your best. I think you knew what he was doing. So like, oh yeah, James Charles is far too seasoned. This is a rookie rookie rant. Yeah. Who rookie rookie of the year rant. Speaking of rookies, are you ready for a fast five stories? If it's our fast five stories that's brought you by salt and stone. 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I just, like, I thought people wanted to hear you talk about it. That's funny. I saw the people wanted us to talk about it, but now I'm like, why? They thought I was going to go hard. I'm cracking up. Maybe they thought you were going to agree with him for sure. For sure. Okay, first up, Sports Illustrated 2026 cover models have been announced. We have four covers. Hilary Duff, Alex Erl, Nicole Williams English, and Tiffany Haddish. So, I have so many thoughts. Like, obviously, as Alex Erl is, like, literally number one fan and as a, most recently, like, her inspiration, I love this. I do want to say, and this is zero, zero, like, site against Alex Erl. Is it such an obvious choice? And I remember, like, a year or two ago when they first, like, had her on the digital cover and, like, they should have been brave and, like, taking a chance on a young influencer then because now it's like, well, yeah, obviously, you know? Yeah. And I feel like for always, I mean, I have to just forget this idea of Sports Illustrated that I have in my head because at one point, like, it was the maker and breaker of things and now they're just, like, up with trends, like, what's cool now when, like, you know, the plus size movement was in, they were doing plus size. Hilary Duff is on a tour, so we'll put her on the cover even though last year she would have never been considered because she's, like, not doing press. Yeah. It's just so PR. I remember when both Zandra and Alex Erl had gotten plucked, I think two years ago, it was such a big deal and it would have been such a risk and, like, a statement if they had chosen Alex and I actually remember saying that she should be on the cover and then, like, a few months later they put on the digital cover. So it's like they had to work up to it and I just feel like they're not taking chances. Like, I like all the choices. They're not making bold moves. Like, Whoopi Goldberg would have been a bold move. Correct. I have a zero, literally zero issue with any of these choices. I'm just, like, not inspired and I actually think some of the pictures are not good. Like, I think they kind of did Hilary Duff dirty. She's like, her neck looks broken. Yeah. And yeah, there's a difference between, like, what looks like, like, high editorial when you look at the covers versus, like, oh, I'm on vacation and I took a picture. And we've had that issue in the past. Yes, by the way, what you just said is brilliant. Oh, thanks. It's good because these days with the G7X, like, I can take these pictures. All these influencers. Yeah. I want to say covers wise. I think Alex Earl's cover is unreal. Let me look at them all together. I do want to say, I didn't know that Tiffany Hattish was rocking a body like that. Do you know what I mean? That's why I like to voice illustrated. It's always good to, like, learn of a new body. Beautiful body. Yeah. Like when they did Salma Hayek. Yeah. I guess she's the Salma of this year. Why are you saying it like that? Like I was going to let it slide the first time I really was. Salma? Salma. Like why you? Salma. I said Salma. Salma Hayek. Salma Hayek. You're putting so much L into it. I like it. It's like a light L. I like saying it. It's a light L. I like it. Why? Because I like it. Are you looking at the covers? Yeah. I just want to say, if you're writing about sports illustrated, like who the models are and you're not putting the covers in your articles, todayshow.com, like seriously. They must not have the rights or something. You have to go to, I only found it on swimsuit.si.com. Okay. Yeah. Tiffany Haddish's body is insane. Like I had no idea. Nicole Williams English is giving like, you know, sports illustrated. Yeah. To me, I love Nicole Williams English. She's from Wag. She's like one of the, I don't know her. She's like Courtney's best friend. I think she's going to be on the girls. She's like, Natalie and Nicole and she's been in sports. She announced her pregnancy on the runway of SI swim. And she's another one for me that feels belated, you know, like now she's just like a classic sports illustrated girl and like give you should have given her the cover pregnant five years ago. Like that would have been interesting. It's so funny when I think about trends because I feel like for so many years, like boobs were everything boobs are in, boobs out, boobs out. And now I feel like boobs are not boobs are out and like vagina's in, you know, I mean, but what about butt? Remember the butt? Well, yeah, but like super high ways to bikinis where you can like see like the, I actually feel like vagina. I feel like boobs are coming back. I hope so. These covers are not very booby. Boobs are very like early 2000s and then they went away and then the butt was here for a while. But now I feel like, you know, C cups are coming back. I don't know why like Hillary's picture is so weird. Don't you find like her position? She looks so like in pain. I feel like that's how she likes to be. You know, I just want to say like these are good. I love Alex's cover. And if this was the one it would be if I had to pick one, I think hers is the best. And I think that it should have been one and like, you're never going to catch me loving a four cover. And now it's back and this is every year. So at this year in the world, like bring back just choosing one. Yeah. No, but at this point, we have said this. We say this every year. I know, I know, like working record every single year. It's four covers. I don't think we're ever going to get one cover ever again. I'm never going to give up hope, but I'm telling you, I will never give a damn about what you're doing if there's four of them. And if we're never going to get four covers again, fine. We're never going to get an iconic cover ever again. Nothing can be iconic when you're a part of a group. I'm sorry. We have not had an iconic. When I think of the last like really iconic. I don't know. But also, I also like a couple girls on one cover. That's fine with me. I could have 50 people on one cover. I just want one cover. They did that. I'm sorry. I'm wearing bathing suits. They were all wearing gowns. That was awful. That was awful. No, they're syncing it up big time. This is so fine. It's, it's completely fine. Yeah. It's not like exciting or innovative. I should say if I was the big deal that it once was. So, okay, let's just move on. If I was like wanting to, you know, look deeper into this and be annoying, like body positive influence, I think these covers really do also reflect that like the body positivity movement like is over. Like that is out according to these covers. Not me. I would never say that, but like it's giving, you know, it's giving much like other things, you know, yeah, trends coming out. I'm just saying like if I, if I wanted to make a statement, I would, but I don't want to. Yeah. I like, I can't remember the last time they didn't include, you know, or something in there. Yeah. But I guess like they're covering different categories here. Yeah. Old, young mothers. True. Singers. Comedians. Yeah. Yeah, it's fine. I feel fine about this. Like I would say I love my girl, Alex, or all I love Tiffany Haddish. I love the Col Williams English. Hillary Duff. Although she and I have a complicated relationship, but you've moved past it. Absolutely. Yeah, but it just, it's just not what it once was. Like I almost, I almost miss when we were just getting to speculate over who the cover was. That was almost more fun than the, of course, because it's never going to be as good as our guesses. I just want to say like, I do think Alex Earl's cover is really, I mean, it's a real cut. It's a cover that feels like a real cover. Yeah. Not just like a cat and GS seven GS G seven X on like the beach in the Bahamas. Yeah. And if it was given, you know, more of a pride of place treatment, like it could have been an iconic, but now it'll just be forgotten with the rest of these. Well, this is just like a huge sleigh for Alex of all the covers. She's probably like the most up and coming technically, even though she's like, she's come, you know, yeah, she's here. No, honestly, it's a safer. The other girls like to be amongst her ranks. Mm hmm. Well, that was fun. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Mm hmm. Major up fronts like all happened yesterday. I saw that the up fronts were happening. NBC Universal, Fox and Amazon all hosted up front yesterday and we got a lot of new show canceled show information. So up fronts are like B2B events where the networks like host these huge events for like their advertisers and their partners announcing what shows are coming, what shows are leaving. It's like a big programming update and they often make it like a big spectacle. They have a lot of celebrities and attendants, you know, partners. Yeah. So we had everyone excited and drum up interest in the coming programming slate. So here's what we have from NBC. You first of all, they played a clip from the summer house reunion. They did. Yeah. Where they were talking about West like exclusive relationship. It was like a sidebar conversation, like with Sierra and Kyle and someone, uh, maybe like, I don't even know. It wasn't part of like the actual reunion. It was like Hot Mike talking about like West relationship just to like titillate the viewers. Oh, that's exciting. Yes. Um, then we had Jimmy Fallon and Bose's show canceled. I was very upset about that. Even though I didn't watch it. It's like, I can't when you didn't watch one episode. I know because I just want like good things for my girl Bose. That's why I'm upset. I don't care about Jimmy Fallon. Like he'll be fine. But like I wanted that for Bose. Yeah. Another show like that was announced that we were excited about and that has been subsequently canceled. I forget what it was, but I was like, how can I be mad about this? I did not watch it. I know. And like that's on me for sure. And like I should have like been using my platform to get everyone to watch it, but, but I didn't. So, but, but we didn't. Um, then, you know, Vin Diesel was there, Tina Fey, Bravo announced a new show, Secrets Lies, Texas wives. It's giving like reality version of hunting wives. Yeah. It's also clearly like a play on the secret lives of Mormon wives. I feel like they're trying to like capitalize on the hunting wives phenomenon. Yeah. I found it shocking just cause like, and I feel like we were talking about this with the Hulu get real event where Hulu has kind of taken over for Bravo is like the leading unscripted, like destination for unscripted TV shows. So the fact that like they have a show coming out that is, I don't know what it's really about, but it seems like a play on secret lives and Mormon wives. Kind of a big deal. Like Bravo has always been like setting the trends. Now there's sort of following them. Yeah. So I saw in Peacock, Madison, the queries getting a show, a vertical series about like style, like, you know, a confessional style show with people in her chair as she like does their hair. That's cute. Yeah. That is cute. There was another one that was like that. Hold on. I saved it, but I'll have to find it. Um, yeah. Like a lot of little shows announced the real housewives upcoming 20th anniversary special Rhode Island housewives got picked up for season two, which I don't think shocks anyone. So everyone's talking about that. Where's my Madison? Oh, I didn't save it. Um, then there was also the Fox up front. They watch ladies were out Brooks and the girls. I saw Brooks, Livy and she Mitchell, she Mitchell in it. Yeah. Okay. And has see Harrison. Has see how she could go on namesake. She could go on namesake. And then also Amazon up front. I didn't really see much about that. Yeah. There's a new show called reality retreat, which is coming on Amazon prime video and it's about a like 13, uh, reality TV alumni women who are going on like a wellness retreat designed to challenge their identities, relationships and personal growth. The cast includes Kenya Moore, Margaret Joseph's Kim Zolciak, Christine Quinn, Brittany Cartwright, Tamar Braxton, Caitlin Bristow, Jen Tran, Savannah Chrisley, Elaria. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. This is just giving like another one of those shows. It doesn't sound that good. It sounds really bad. Like there's no, there's no hook. What we're going to go watch them do wellness retreat therapy. I'm all set. I also think that for a while there was this genre of shows where they were like collecting random reality stars, like making them do challenges and they were never very good. House of villains, MTV's the challenge and X on the beach. And then like traders really sort of leveled up that genre of show where it's like, we can't just watch garbage like that anymore. We need more compelling content. So that's why that mafia show that who announced does sound like it'll be good. There's like now this genre. We can't like no more garbage. Yeah. Yeah. This sounds like garbage. It does. It's from Amazon. It's like their, their take on trying to get in the reality game. Like it's so random. Jeff, sit down. Seriously. And then there's, oh, apparently I think Netflix up for insert today and they're announcing the name of the Earl family show. Is it not Earl girls? Is it would it be like real Earl's real Earl's? What if my name is I thought it was Earl of sandwich? What did you think it was? I thought it was like already decided. Earl girls. I didn't know we were like waiting for it. I'm pretty sure it's the other girls, even though it's kind of hard to say now that I keep saying it. I think it should be real Earl's. I think it should be getting activists with the realies. What do you think? Yeah, I think that's good. Or it could be like get something get real with me. I don't know. Earl girls. But it's also like about her family and her parents. It's all girls. It's like except her dad. I think he's a mean character. But he's like the Earl girls manager. I am really looking forward to that show. We would have already known that. I think it's going to be something different. But what I'm saying is that like I didn't know that, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but that's from like years ago. So yeah, when she first popped off, there was like a false start where she was trying to get her sister and her stepmom and like all this, you know, different inside characters trying to get them off the ground and they were shopping a show around that I believe was called Earl girls and it didn't really. It wasn't the right time. So I think she put on the back burner and then it kind of happened organically where people were like really into Ashton and then the stepmom. And so now I think it's the right time. I actually know with Earl girls is the right name though. We'll say it should be love thy Earl. Hmm. No, I think it should be Earl. Thy nader. I think she keeping up with the Earl's. Oh, I like that living Earl. Yeah. So that's a bunch of new programming. There was a bunch of more stuff, but you know, check it out. Cool. Check it out. Next story is one that I'm really excited to share with you because Kylie Kelsey won the Webby Award for podcast of the year and she gave. She gave a very inspiring five word speech after the thing about the webbies that I only recently learned is that when you win an award, you're only allowed to make a speech. Five words. Oh, I didn't know that. I thought everybody prepares the five words because I remember Jake Shane one one member Kim did nude selfies till I die like a million years ago. Oh, funny. Um, so people like, I don't know if you know you're going to win, but every nominee has like an idea of what they're going to say. That's a really cute concept. I didn't know. I'm glad for that backstory because I was about to be like, why, why, what was the speech? So here we're Kylie Kelsey's five words for winning podcast of the year. Not me us go birds. Women, women supporting women go birds. Why women supporting women like for real? Why not? Why not? That's crazy. Who else was nominated? I also think it's crazy that she won because like she didn't have the podcast of the year. Like maybe the year before she had a big launch, but I think she just like regular podcasts like everyone else now, you know? Yeah. Okay. So here were the nominees for hang for podcast of the year. How am I ever going to find this? Okay. Whatever. Like I was just curious. Like was Amy Poehler not nominated? I'm sure she was. Okay. Anyways, women supporting women go birds. Inspiring. What would your five word speech be? I got mine. Thank you. Grab a spoon. Mine would be the place looks great. Period. Okay. Well, I know. Mine would be, well, the place looks great. Perfect. Perfect. I mean, I could go up. Fun exercise. Yeah. I could go on forever is what I was going to say. I can also do. There is no 5K. Bloom where you are planted. I got it. Lead in ordinary life. Flubber. Be violent in your work. That's really good. If we want to gather, maybe we could get like two sets of five and then we could complete the flubber quote. Actually I really have the best one. This is for the swirly's. This is for the swirly. That's five. Yeah. Yeah. I've got that swirly. I was just doing that one. We've got that swirly. Swirly to exclamation point. No Swirly to is a hyphen. That's really fun. Anyway, women supporting women go birds. Okay. I would love that. I just feel like there are seriously two different types of podcasts out there for women. The first is women supporting women go birds and the other is we've got that swirl of tunes. That's just the opposite. I would never. The funny thing is what I've come to learn is I'm actually a woman who supports other women. A lot of people just talk the talk when I actually walk the walk. Taking all the hate I've taken for Blake Lively. It's funny as an actual woman who supports other women. Yeah. You would just think Kylie would clown on stuff like that. Absolutely. I don't really like, I don't listen to her podcast. I don't fully understand like her ethos, you know, what her brand because she's like raw and real. And then she says, and sometimes that means like you're not supporting women if you're raw and real. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm not sure. Well, are you ready for our next story, which I guess is our fourth story. Wait, how? How because we did sports illustrated up front and five word Kylie Kelsey forgot about sports illustrated. So our fourth story is that Benedict Cumberbatch had a heated 10 minute road rage fight with a cyclist. Yeah, I saw this video. I forgot about Benedict Cumberbatch. Well, I didn't forget about him. I just don't know him because I don't, I'm not familiar with his work. Like he's someone who has really missed me, which is funny because you would think that like he would be one of my genres, but he's really not. I just saw that movie about, it's not about, but like the place where the Rose Code took place. The Rose Code. The Rose Code. The Rose Code. No, that's Tom Hanks. The Rose Code one where they're cracking like the Nazi. Imitation game. Imitation game. So he's in that, right? Yes, I did not see that, but I read Rose Code. Right. I think that was my first time sort of interfacing with Benedict and let me tell you, I know this is not a surprise, but it was a very good actor. Yeah, no. And he's in a lot of stuff like Sherlock, Dr. Strange. And he's like a major. The Hobbit. And it's just like all things that I happen to not watch. Right. Right. You would think that I would, however, one work of his I've watched backwards and forwards. Is his video with the cyclist? No, is the Grinch. He plays the Grinch. I thought you were making a joke like a piece of art that he's, that you've seen him in is the video from the cyclist. To be honest, I didn't really watch the video because like to me, Benedict Cumberbatch, like he's not one of my famous people, you know, he's not my celebrity. Yeah, this like didn't move anything for me, but I just love to see celebrities like acting out of turn. Although I do feel like the headline was misleading. Like the guy was following him, like get away. Yeah, it would be like, I guess for other people, the way it would feel for me if like Matthew from Downton Abbey was like fighting in the street and having a road rage incident. Well, now that you've done like that, I actually think that would be insane. Right. So like that's what it's like for the Cumberbatchers. Yeah. And also he doesn't go out a lot. Like he's not a celebrity. He's like always getting spotted. And he's just like a very like erudite actor. So who's like roles are not Congress with road rage? Yeah, he plays like often like a nobleman. Yeah, like not Congress with like fighting in the streets. Yeah. Um, it wasn't like really fighting. It was like a lot of like, you know, stern finger pointing, but I think the guy was following him. Celebrities love to ride bikes like in major cities. You know, one time I saw Alan coming on a bike before traders. Yeah. Yeah. He was fighting. I guess I don't really, I don't know, but like, so I don't have an opinion. I don't know if he was right or wrong. Like is this an Alec Baldwin situation? Oh, oh, no. I don't think that like the veil has been lifted in Benedict Cumberbatch is actually like an evil guy. I think he's like a monster. He was driven to this point. I am. We'll do that to you. And that's the thing. They say death is the great equalizer. Now it's road rage because even your faves experience rage on the road. Really? I don't even feel I do. I know like you and Ben actually have like a serious case of road rage. Jackie, I think like that's universal. No, no, I think I would agree with you. Like there's frustrations out on the road. Frustrations for sure. But you and Ben suffer and both of you at a very high level from road rage. I don't think that that's true. Actually, I drive with you and like someone's just like and like the road is you're like driving Miss Daisy with your like tiny little three miles an hour. No, no, no. And by the way, I do speed a little, but you speed a little. You get you have road rage. I find me in Benedict Cumberbatch and Ben suffer. I think you guys suffer. Bring that out. Also, I feel as though when I came up with them and discussing Benedict Cumberbatch the entire time, it's crazy that his name is Benedict. It's yeah. No, it's it's a big name. And don't you find that Mr. Arnold like ruined that name? Because now like Benedict is sort of a verb for trader, but it's a beautiful name. If you really go by anything, if you take it down to the studs, Benedict, historic. No, and it's you can go by Ben. You can go by. But don't you you could. Don't you feel like Benedict Arnold very much did for the name Benedict, but like Hitler did for the name Adolf like nobody named their kid Adolf after that? Well, well, first of all, Benedict Cumberbatch, not Cumberbatch, Benedict Arnold, while a trader to Americans is probably a hero to the British. Oh, that's true, because, you know, history is written by the victors. Yeah. So like he was fighting for the British. That's probably that's their guy. Like, oh, he was in there like a Trojan horse. That's right. Right. Right. They probably on the line. Probably associate him with one of the greatest spies. He's there. Eli Cohen. Actually, so true. Mm hmm. I mean, looking at this from such an American perspective. Yeah. Zoom out. But I feel like Adolf, like even to the Germans, like they're not ruined Germany, too. Right. Right. You know, even like his loyal subjects. He was not down. No, no, like so it's not the same. And it's not like it's such a beautiful name. Like I feel like the country probably had like an easy time partying with it because it's kind of a go. No, I think it's a nice name. Think about it. Adolf. Oh, no, no, no, no, Benedict. You know, so I'm saying like Benedict, they maybe like had a hard time party with it because it's a beautiful name. Adolf. Yuck. Well, yeah, Adolf looks beautiful. I feel like there are ways does I think they're named similar to Adolf that like could scratch that itch if you really wanted to take to go Adolf, you know. Like like Rudolph. Sure. There's also another one. Wait, hold on. I need to see C's children. I just need to. Like Henry, Henry, no, is Rudolph. Rudolph. Yeah, it's a good thing like Stalin went by his last name because Joseph would have been like a tough name to lose. We couldn't part with Joseph. Yeah, not him having a biblical name. Yeah. Heinrich, I feel like that one. But I do think Adolf was a little bit of a trendy name, you know, because like Joseph 1930s energy because Joseph like it timeless. Yeah, it precedes Stalin. There's so much history to the eight off was just very much like aged himself. Yeah. Yeah, it's very trendy. 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It's like, it's kind of dark. You know, it's not like super fun, but it's insightful and was she dead? I forget. Yes. Okay. She was on the brink and she got to like, well, this isn't like a spoiler, but it's like a magical, she finds herself in a magical library that allows her to explore all the alternate universes of her life that she could have lived all the different choices that she could have made. Right. Right. I didn't care. And no, it's, it's a great book. Florence Pugh will be playing Norisee, the protagonist, which I think that works for me. Like she's very quiet. She's been quiet now. Yeah. And she's a good act. Like she, like when she's tied to the project, it'll be a legit. Like a legit. I do feel like when they adapt movies, they are always like pulling from the same pool of people. She's new. I actually don't feel like she's new. She's in, she's in Little Women, which was also a book. I feel like she's part of the book crew. And maybe there's just like a group of women in Hollywood who read and when they hear that these books are becoming movies, they want to be involved because they know it's a really good story. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. The readers, Emma Roberts. Yeah. Classic stuff. Yeah. So it's a good way to get good roles is to read. Yeah, it is. And that's a good, she's good. I like her. Yeah. She's another one. I actually am not familiar with a lot of her work, like just has missed me, but I will watch this. So she was actually an Oppenheimer. I saw her. I saw her boobs. Didn't see it. I saw her boobs. I didn't see it. I didn't see Don't Worry Darling. I didn't see Little Women. But Jane, you think it's crazy that there were boobs in Oppenheimer? Like so unnecessary. Of course there were boobs in Oppenheimer. Of course. Why? Of course Oppenheimer be without boobs. How could you make a movie about the atomic bomb? Right. Without some boobies. How could you do it? You haven't seen Oppenheimer yet. Like maybe now you will because they told you there are boobies in it. And that's precisely why now I'll watch it because why the war was one. It's why the war was one. Well, maybe it was a reason. Well, fighting. The bomb looks great. It always does. Let's dive into Dear Toasters our weekly advice segment every Tuesday. Jackie and I pick three submissions from our community. People write into us at DearTosters at gmail.com or head over to our website, thetoastpodcast.com. So you can, you know, hear from us if you're going through any sort of issue at work at home. Are you ready? Mm hmm. Dear Toasters light edition. Thank you. Hey, Jackson Turney, it's my first Mother's Day. Oh, no, sorry, like not me actually reading a sentence. I wasn't there. Happy first month. No. Let's try this again. Dear Jackson Turney, first happy Mother's Day to my two favorite podcasters. I gave birth to my son a week ago and we named him after my husband. We are in the newborn haze sitting around talking about what to do for my first Mother's Day when the doorbell rings and flowers arrive. I open the card and it says happy Mother's Day from your favorite exo Jenny. Jenny is my sister. Right away, I'm confused because the flowers look half dead and the note does not sound like her at all. We had also just been joking about how people keep bringing flowers for newborn gifts and it's literally the least helpful thing you can bring. So I text her asking if she sent them and she says no. Then she texts my parents to ask if maybe they sent flowers on her behalf and they did not. Later, we look again at the delivery slip to figure out who actually sent the mystery flowers and it turns out they came from my husband's company. The problem is that my husband has no idea who Jenny is. For context, my husband is loyal and present and truly the last person on earth who would be have the energy for a double life. He works himself, he works for himself running a distributor for medical supplies with one employee. He's technically associated with the larger corporate company, but he doesn't have any co-workers in the normal sense. There's no office full of people where some random Jenny could be lurking. We also follow each other on find my iPhone. So there's literally no room for secrets or anything. Now I am one week postpartum holding a newborn and staring at these wilted flowers from someone named Jenny. And I cannot tell if this is a mistake. I cannot tell if this is a simple mistake, a weird mix up in the corporate system or something else entirely. So what do you think? Okay. So it's very weird and it's giving spooky and like, oh gosh, we need to, you know, go on an investigation. We need to do an investigation into your husband, but I'm going to operate like what you're saying is true. And I do think there's at a certain point, like if you have your husband on like find my iPhone and like he's always home saying he works from, like, you know where he is at every minute of the day, like actually how could he be conducting an affair? Right. And I also want to say, like you are one week postpartum and I want us to like pocket this information. Remember that it was weird and forget it. Like you can't make yourself crazy and sick. I think we just need to just give your husband the benefit of the doubt. Assume that it was a mistake. Maybe the flora sent it to the wrong. I mean, even though it was happy first Mother's Day, it's very weird. Um, but I think the weirder part is that the flowers are dead. That's where it's like a spooky and ominous. Yeah. Because a florist would never deliver dead flowers. Like. Yeah. Call the florist shop. Yeah. If you want to investigate my first stop would of course be the floral shop. Yeah. You should call the floral shop and also like you should let them know they delivered half dead. Like how could they bring that to your door? But I also like, you don't need to make yourself crazy about this. Like if your husband is a line, she's scoundrel and he's having an affair. You know what? You'll find out. Put it off a couple of months. You just had a baby. We'll deal with that in a couple of months. And I, and I don't think that he is. So why, why make ourselves crazy for nothing? You know, sometimes like if things do just get confused and like, do you even want to know that this week? Like talk to me in three months. Yeah. Yeah. For now, Jackie's right. Like pocket the information, but like definitely spooky. Definitely spooky for sure. Um, and I don't think he's lying. She's scoundrel. I don't mean either, but this wouldn't be the time. This isn't the time for that information. Honestly, like very inconvenient truth. Agreed. I'll go set it fast. Hey, girlies. You both are smart, beautiful and skinny as hell. Literally can't even see you. I'm cracking out. Anyways, that's how you get your submission read. By the way, just call us skinny. My husband got me a diamond band for my wedding set from other day. Exactly what I asked for. Good job. Except I saw that he purchased the ring on Amazon. Now this would not be a problem if he hadn't, if he had presented it as such, but he literally put my ring in a box from the jeweler that did my engagement ring and my wedding band. So he was clearly trying to pass it off as higher quality, but it's from Amazon. Should I confront him? Should I let it be? It matches my real band from the jeweler, but it kind of makes me sad that he's lying about it from being from Amazon. What do I do? Is it diamonds from Amazon? I don't think you can buy diamonds on Amazon. You can buy everything. Is it lab grown diamonds on Amazon? Or is it seriously a $20 ring? I think it's a $20 ring that he's trying to pass off as like a $2,000 ring. He tried. Wow. I just like I wonder what sort of place he has to be in and that like you guys are in where he couldn't just like be honest with you. Like I don't like deception. So like if it's like, why are you the sort of person who's like pretending that these are diamonds when they're not diamonds? Were you supposed, are you supposed to be able to afford diamonds? Are you at that level and where are the diamonds then? If you're earning that much, like, or it's known that you wouldn't be able to afford that. So why are you pretending like you can? Not to theorize, of course, but like maybe, you know, he's a job or something. Or he spent the money on his girlfriend. Or on his boyfriend. Yeah, right. Right. It sounds like he has a secret boyfriend and he got the real diamond ring and you got the fake one from Amazon. See, things could be so much worse. Yeah. Yeah. I don't like deception, you know, especially in a she's unmarried. Yeah. You got to bring it up because of the deception and like I am afraid obviously I hate to make a mountain out of a molehill. Like maybe this is just iceberg and he's having financial problems, like something. So unfortunately, like you have to bring it up. Sorry. I just, I just don't think feel like there should be secrets. There shouldn't be deception in a marriage. Absolutely. If you can't afford a diamond ring, don't, don't pretend like you can. It's okay. Like we don't need a diamond ring. It sounds like you have a band and an engagement ring. It's like you got quite a few. You got a little spoiled. You're stacked up. Like so there's worse things than not being able to afford that diamond ring. But just be honest. I need to honestly, I need to, I need to know the playing field. I agree. And maybe, you know, this deception is indicative of a larger issue. I had a girlfriend. Fidelity, a queerness, something like that. Yeah. Gambling. He spent, he gambled away your time and ring money. Right. Or. Or he spent it on, you know, gowns because he's a cross-dresser. Like there's a million things. Or. Do you have toasters? Like you seriously never fucking know. Let me, how about these mental gymnastics? What if he bought a ring that he liked the design of on Amazon to see if he liked the design? And then he took that to the jeweler and the jeweler made a real version. And so you saw that he bought a ring like that on Amazon, but it was in the jeweler's box because he bought it for real. Yeah. And then you bring it up and you're just like the asshole. Like he went so far out of his way. To like get a sample. Right. Bring it up. Yeah. Third and final. Hey, Jackson Claude. Sorry, Claude, this might be a little triggering considering the recent events that happened to you over Mother's Day, but I need advice. When my husband and I got married, we both agreed to quit vaping for our health. I got pregnant right away. So it was very easy for me to stop. And he said that he did too. But I've suspected that he has not. Back in February, I saw him outside clearly vaping and he denied it. This past weekend, we went out of town for a wedding and I found a vape with a half empty pod in it and a package full of pods. I didn't bring it up then because it did not want to ruin our weekend, but now I'm not sure how to approach it. I'm pissed about the vaping, but even more pissed about the lying. I also care about his health and I want him to be the healthiest that he can be for our son. How do I talk to him about this without turning it into a fight or feeling like I'm nagging? That's really annoying. It is like as somebody who successfully quit vaping and not because I was pregnant. Like, yeah, it's a little easy to quit vaping. Like you have like literally no choice when you're doing it, like to support your wife. Like you kind of have a choice, right? But your initial reasoning together for stopping was like to be healthy and for your future children and your current children. So once again, it all leads back to deception. But maybe he has like such an oral fixation on the vape because he's excellent. Maybe he's like also stopped like being dazed. Yeah. So this is sort of a placeholder. I just like I'm feeling very unsympathetic towards this man. Like I don't think I think like, yeah, quitting vaping would be a challenge, but it's really not that hard, you know, have you tried being pregnant, like go to war, you know, right? Right. Got a job vaping. Figure it out. I totally figure it out. Yeah. And also what's worse than like you literally having proof of somebody like I saw you smoking. He's like, no, I wasn't. But I see the proof. But that also goes back to lies. I don't like lies. I know. So it's always it's never the crime. It's literally always like you said I saw you smoking and then he was like, I know, babe, I'm having such a hard time. Like it's like I'm gaining weight and but you know, you just started and then I could be sympathetic towards that. I could. Of course. A liar. What? I'm a stupid. You think I'm stupid? Blind. When will people learn that it's never the crime? It's always the cover up like both. It's all it is. Oh, so the crime people are human. Like, OK, you have an addiction and you fell back into your addiction. Like, how can I be mad? Like, I get it. The lying when I'm literally watching you. I am watching you smoke. And then I know you're a liar telling me that you're not. And then I know you're a liar and that's a problem for me. Yeah, that's a problem for me because then I can't trust a damn thing you say. Apps of fucking Lutely. That's so bad is to be a known liar. It's it's actually very true. Your word means nothing. Don't do it, you guys. Your word is everything. It's all you have. If you don't have your word, like you have nothing. Yeah, my word is important to me. And I think that's what makes you like quite a nobleman. Thank you so much. Like, but. Correct. Thank you to everybody who wrote in was vulnerable. I'm sorry to tell you that, like, all your husbands are gay. But like, listen, it's better that you know now. Yeah. And just want to say that was such a better dear toaster. It's like, I can. Oh, you feel better. Oh, my God, I can go enjoy my day. OK. I am happy. Maybe maybe if there is a dark one, like I'll always limit it to just one out of the three and I'm going to get the first one. Like we could do like a special edition. Dark version. Dark version where like I can get into the headset, but like here we are swirling around. We got that swirl of tune. And let's do dear toasters after dark on Patreon. I like that. Dear toasters. Special victims unit. DTU. Yeah. 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