#4655 Kumon Feel The Noise
82 min
•Feb 3, 20264 months agoSummary
This episode of TBTL covers a coyote swimming to Alcatraz and threatening the bird sanctuary there, Jody Allen's required sale of the Seattle Seahawks, and a discussion about penguin behavior and backing-in parking habits. The hosts explore nature conservation dilemmas, sports ownership transitions, and listener observations about parking lot behavior.
Insights
- Wildlife management presents ethical dilemmas when natural animal behavior conflicts with human-protected ecosystems, raising questions about intervention versus non-interference
- Mandatory asset sales in estate planning can create public relations challenges for sports franchises during critical moments like playoff runs
- Parking behavior and vehicle choice correlate with broader cultural and political identity markers in ways that reveal social coding
- Werner Herzog's documentary approach to nature emphasizes the tragic and absurd dimensions of animal behavior rather than sanitized narratives
Trends
Increased scrutiny of sports team ownership transitions and billionaire acquisition patterns in professional sportsGrowing awareness of invasive species management challenges in protected natural areasDocumentary filmmaking that embraces existential and philosophical perspectives on animal behaviorPublic discourse around parking norms and vehicle choice as cultural identity markersEstate planning complexities for ultra-high-net-worth individuals with major sports franchises
Topics
Coyote Wildlife Management at AlcatrazJody Allen Seahawks Ownership TransitionSports Franchise Ownership and Billionaire AcquisitionWildlife Conservation Ethics and Non-Intervention PolicyPenguin Behavior and Animal CognitionParking Lot Behavior and Backing-In VehiclesWerner Herzog Documentary FilmmakingEstate Planning for Sports FranchisesBird Sanctuary ProtectionCultural Identity and Vehicle Choice
Companies
Seattle Seahawks
NFL team owned by Jody Allen; must be sold per Paul Allen's estate will; currently in Super Bowl contention
National Park Service
Managing the coyote situation at Alcatraz Island and attempting to trap and relocate the animal
AT&T
Acquiring Century Link internet service; hosts mentioned receiving notification about service transition
Century Link
Internet service provider being acquired by AT&T; notified customers of ownership change
Amazon
Potential buyer for Seattle Seahawks mentioned; Jeff Bezos previously attempted to purchase Washington football team
Kumon
Learning center tutoring franchise discussed for its confusing logo design featuring a confused child character
People
Jody Allen
Seattle Seahawks owner required to sell team per Paul Allen's estate; currently facing media scrutiny about timeline
Paul Allen
Deceased founder of Seahawks and Trail Blazers; his estate plan requires asset sales including the Seahawks
Roger Goodell
NFL Commissioner who publicly stated the league is not pressuring Jody Allen to sell the Seahawks
Jeff Bezos
Amazon founder mentioned as potential buyer for Seahawks; previously attempted to purchase Washington football team
Werner Herzog
Documentary filmmaker whose penguin behavior footage was discussed; known for philosophical approach to nature
Chris Fleming
Comedian whose bit about Kumon and parenting was referenced; directed by friend Kat
James Taylor
Singer mentioned as example of gentle person who could theoretically own a sports team
Quotes
"Can a penguin go insane? I try to avoid the definition of insanity or derangement. I don't mean that a penguin might believe he or she is leaning Napoleon Bonaparte, but could they just go crazy?"
Werner Herzog•Approximate mid-episode
"The enormity of their flat brain, the enormity of their stupidity is just overwhelming. You have to do yourself a favor when you're out in the countryside and you see a chicken, try to look a chicken in the eye with great intensity."
Werner Herzog•Episode conclusion
"I can't imagine the pants are helping."
Luke Burbank•Portland TV station story
"This is an exciting time in your transition to AT&T. It's like, yeah, this is super exciting. I'm sure this is just really good for the consumer."
Andrew Walsh•Early episode
Full Transcript
I'll have anything. I just want to hear more fries. Hey guys. Hi, how are you? Hi Johnny. Hi Johnny. Welcome to Around the World in 80 plates. Have you guys eaten with us before? No. Or you haven't. Alright, well, let me walk you through the menu. We do things a little differently, a little quirky, a little fun. I think we're just hungry. I'm just going to do a cheeseburger and fries and... This place really is a culinary voyage across the seven seas of flavor. Our menus divide into seven different cuisines. And we do have specials in each of those sections that are not listed on the menu. For instance, Craig's crazy guac docks, which go great with surfaces. I'm just going to do a cheeseburger and... We don't have cheeseburgers. We do have slam burgers. Yeah, yeah. Would you like your slam burger in a traditional sesame bun, in a taco, on French toast, or rolled up in a non, which is this traditional Indian flatbread? No, I was just going to have a sesame bun. And I'll do the torpedo slam burger. Torpedo slam burger as a taco. Good choice. And to drink, I'm going to have an iced tea. No, we don't have iced tea. We have smile teas. What's a smile tea? It's tea with ice in it. That sounds great. Would you guys like to double down on your meal? I don't know that thing. It's twice the amount of food for twice the price. That's just ordering the two of each. You did say you were hungry. We could double down and then share. I'm sorry, there's no sharing in the double down. So what do you do if people are sharing? You throw cameras everywhere. I mean... That's not fine. The camera's here to ensure that the fun is happening. Some of what makes it the camera and they go, are those two people are sharing? Yeah, Craig. He'll do the guac-tox. So he's making tacos and then he's looking at this. He has a taco station right on the security station. You can just look at the video while he's making it. It's crazy guac-tox. Do you want to lobster-rate your meal? What is that? We just put a whole lobster on top. I doubt you do that. It's next for $3199. I doubt that's even an existence. T-B-T-L! Hello, I'm Gil Gerard. Tonight's special edition of Code 3 focuses on high-risk ports and the dangers inherent in them. For example, at full throttle, this natural-fueled funny car can travel the length of a football field in less than a second. But there's nothing funny about a funny car when it blasts down a road toward disaster. Can you say hot-dump? I beg. Thank you, baby. Hot dog! I don't! Are you on the computer? Yes, I am, but I'm having trouble with my computer. I had a computer for 10 years. I enjoyed it. But it died. There's nothing classier than boring jazz music. I'm here to tell you. I love these guys. They make funny with their mouth. All right, hello. Good morning and welcome everyone to a Tuesday edition of T-B-T-L. The show that just might be too beautiful to live. Just study it out and you'll see. My name's Luke Burbank. I'm your host. I don't know who that is, and I don't care to find out. Coming to you from the Modrona Hill Studio, perched high above the very mighty, but also very foggy Columbia River. We've got the fog. I'd say I can see about 10 feet out this window here at the Modrona Hill Studio. Thankfully, this is an audio product. We don't need visuals. We can just go on instrumentation to bring you episode 4,655 in a collector's series. Let the fun begin. A coyote managed to swim to Alcatraz. I'll say I'll say was that though. And now the National Park Service, such as it exists in the stand-age, is trying to figure out what to do with this animal that's living out there, possibly on Alcatraz. Also, the Kennedy Center, I use that previous name, advisedly, the Kennedy Center is going to close for construction. It was literally a major disaster. Very interesting timing for that. We may get into that as well. And we'll definitely get into talking to this guy, long-streeting co-bro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ship. The Geysing Nut Bar! A Nut Bar! He's Andrew Walsh. Good morning, my friend. Good morning, Luke. I just learned that this is a very exciting time for me. And my family here, apparently, because I got a very... Super like someone's about to do some scam baiting. No! Well, I mean, it's probably a scam in the grand scheme of things, as in almost everything is a scam these days. But Century Link just sent me a note just saying, basically they're just saying AT&T bought us, buddy. So God knows what your future is. But instead, it's draped in this excitement. Good news! Your Century Link Internet plan won't change. And if you have an existing price for a life plan, that's not going to change either. I don't think I have a price. Do you have a price for life? No, I don't know. That's the... You have a plan for life. I don't... I barely have that plan for today. I used to. I don't know where I put it. But I love this. This is an exciting time in your transition to AT&T. It's like, yeah, this is... This is super exciting. I'm sure this is just really good for the consumer. Just... Oh, absolutely. I know what's going to happen is it's going to get better and cheaper. Yes. If we could just get it so every company in America is one company, I think that would serve us the consumers. Yeah. Nicely. I'd like to pay my internet and my car insurance and my door dash. And what else is it? My healthcare? Yep. And we're going to bundle that. We're going to put a lobster on top. That would stay on top. Oh, we like to lobster, ain't it? Yeah, we're going to lobster. That's where we just put a lobster on top of. All of your services. They just put a lobster on my internet, I believe. Anyway, I'm excited over here. You can probably tell I'm still buzzing a little bit from that news. But anyway, I'll let you know in great detail as it... How is the construction project going? Pretty good. I think the workers are on their way over here now. Should be here any moment. I don't think it'll affect the broadcast at all. And they put anything in. Are you still in the sort of demoed phase or are they starting to rebuild it? I see. Somebody just showed up outside my window. But I don't have to enter the door or anything. We are still in the demo slash. I think electrical work phase. I think before we're putting anything in, we're getting all the electrical set with this new switchboard. Or I'm sorry, not a switchboard. That's more of a telephone situation. You're going to have a breaker. You're going to have an unmarried woman living in your basement going... Yeah. Hothon 352. And that's right. Plugging in a 3-quarter inch. The 3-quarter inch. That Lily Tomlin outfit. I got Genevieve for her anniversary. You finally going to find some good use. Some good use. Ringy dingy. Ringy dingy. I love keeping the cultural references young and fresh on the show. But the other one who said switchboard. I know. I'm excited about that. I know that tomorrow, I'm sorry, Thursday is going to be the really big day on that because they're going to be taking the electricity away from me for a day. We're going to have to do it in a whole special system. I don't know if we can say where you're going to be. You're going to not be in your normal home studio. No, I'm going to be in that dumpster that's behind the bar that used to be called the back door. It's not called the back door. What is that bar where I illegally dumped my shrimp? It recently closed. I always want to see the back door, but it's like... But it used to be, well, it was the hideaway. Right? Wasn't it the hideaway? Oh, I think you told me it was the hideaway before I knew it as the hideaway. Wait, it was the hideaway. I think gambling place. That's not the place that's now a Roraborialis. Maybe. I haven't been at a weed place. No, that's just another, I think it's like a nightlife spot. That would be a good name for a weed place. A Roraborialis. A Roraborialis. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the hideaway was the card room, but the place where you illegally dumped your shrimp was not the hideaway. Was it next to it? No, it's not. Because the hideaway is a Kumaan now, right? Oh, is that... Is it... Okay, then I am getting confused because so, yeah, the Kumaan and all those... I guess we're just doing this in my apologies. But a change of customer base between the hideaway card room and it became a Kumaan. So the hidden door is the restaurant that I was referring to. And now you knew it as something else back in the day. And just recently they announced that they, the hidden door, are closing down as well. But to be clear... To be clear, the legal shrimp dumped that. Because of a... They could not handle it. They couldn't handle all of the shrimp that people were dumping in their dumpster. But just to be very clear, those places, so that you know that I'm describing them properly, they are on the west side of Aurora in 145th. Yeah, that's what you're picturing. Okay. The hideaway was on the west side. Although if you saw Andrew, I did have to go never eat, saw you all. Oh, I saw you, I saw you. That was me remembering your direction, Earth Face East. Now this is not helping the conversation at all. It gets you no closer to understanding what's going on in my basement as it were. But now I'm trying to figure out what the Aurora Borealis was. Because that was another one of your favorite haunts. That was a card room that I went to with you one time I thought. And it... Oh, was that the drift on in? The drift on in. That's what I'm getting confused about. The Aurora Borealis is in the drift on in as opposed to the hideaway which you're describing. And I don't think I've ever... Well, by the way, the back door, the hidden door used to be the hideaway. Okay, great. Now I was confused in the hideaway. Now I was confused in the hideaway with the drift on in. So I'm totally unfamiliar with the hideaway other than you referencing it on the show, I believe. And let me add a third confusing element. The thing that is now a cum on wasn't the hideaway, it was a different weird casino that had like room for three tables. And it was called, I want to say the gold nugget or something. It was a really like even by the standards of Aurora casinos. The thing that is... Or at least at one point was a cum on. Before that it was a strange little card room that again had like three tables total to it. Which you know, it's unsurprising that it didn't survive. They didn't have enough capacity probably to make the money. But that was yet another casino that I'm talking about. And it's interesting that neither one of those establishes or casinos anymore because those would be as close to Seattle as you can possibly be. Because there are no casinos in the casino. 145th. 145th. That's the demarcation. That's the demarcation between Seattle and Charlene. If you don't jump on the south side of 145th, that's life in prison. Did you think... Did you think how dare don't shrink in Seattle proper? My goodness, my boy. Mama didn't raise no fool. I did hear somebody told me that it looked like there was a lock on that dumpster after that remember hearing. By the way, for people who don't know what we're talking about, I'm talking about a little bag of shrimp that I had that was causing issues in my... I'm sorry, I believe it was an yet unidentified Baltimore Orioles man. I mean, not me, but I mean the cold case that I'm investigating involves a green... I don't think it was huge. I think it was like a... It was my small green bin. I had put some shrimp in there and it had gotten disgusting. And then I thought that I had missed the compost pickup, the yard waste pickup, which is... It's sad to call that yard waste, but that is what would be labeled as officially. And so I was so scared that I was going to be stuck with this mess for another week before the truck came again that I raced to Shoreline. I thought, I know there's a dumpster. And I just remembered seeing this dumpster and thinking like someday, I am still like that. I'm that way with dumpsters and bathrooms. And God, please never make me need it. But like, are you like this? Like, I'm in Ballard. I now know where there is an unlocked bathroom in my... Like, kind of in my doctors. The facility that my doctor works out of, you know, the medical center in Ballard. And I'm always like, oh, okay, if I'm in an emergency and this place is open, and it is attached to like a kind of a critical care place. So it could be open 24 hours on that. Sure. But I know exactly what floor there is a single use unlocked bathroom I can use. And I've got a couple of those staked out across the city. And when I pass a dumpster that doesn't have a lock on it again, the shrimp one was a couple of years ago. And sometimes it can be both. It's a wine hit. It is both. Exactly. I just think it's good to clock these things. Yeah. Somebody sounded like a sketch ball, but you just never know. No. Well, the dumpster thing sounds sketchy. Yeah. The other thing sounds like undiagnosed crones. Yeah. Right. Or pending crones or just the assumption, the absolute astonishment that I don't have it for some percent chance that it will eventually be the cause. That's right. I saw the other day on the weather app that they said it was a 100% chance of rain here where I'm living. And I thought nothing can be 100% right? Like that's an impossible number because that's saying that there is no chance that it won't rain. And you can't predict that. I mean, 99 is the highest percentage it could be, right? Anything or just a weather of anything. Like, can anything be 100% because what you're saying when you're saying there's a 100% chance of something is that there is no chance of it not happening. And if it is the future, the future is not written, right? And I think it could be the cliche would be you can't even say it's a 100% chance that the sun will rise tomorrow. You can't. Yeah. I mean, you know, I mean, we're fingers crossed, but you can't say that because we don't know, right? Like, nothing there can be no 100% chance of anything. I don't know, man. I guess I never thought of it. I'm quibbling here. I mean, I guess you're, we will did a rain app. Did it rain? I don't know. I mean, I guess you're right. You can say it's a 100% chance that we're talking right now, but that's not a chance. That's just a 100%. I mean, it's a current. It's a fact. It's a current as you like. But now also, but wait, there was another thing that we talked about recently, which is my misunderstanding of what the rain, what I thought was being predicted. Yeah. I was a 100% chance. I miss that. But it was something like when you see like, let's say 70% chance of rain, it means there's a 70% chance that there will be measurable precipitation on the day, not that it will rain 70% of the day or something. I'm not weighing in on that because I thought that we had covered this on the show like years ago and had some major eye popping realization that we'd always thought about. That's a 100% chance of precipitation in the wrong way. I think I thought it was a 70% of the day was going to be raining, but I think it's saying there's something. Yeah, I don't think it's that. It's not about the time, but it's about the chance. And for a while there, I was banding about this theory that I thought I'd heard somewhere that it says it's within this area. There's a I thought it was I was combining both percentage of chance and percentage of area covered or something like that, which I don't even want to get into again, because I think I was just not even allowed wrong, just weirdly mumbly wrong about that. So let me be. I was trying to look up that kumon that I've been talking about and I will once again take the opportunity to mention I find the logo for kumon to be really odd. It is a confused child. The O of kumon is a confused child. I guess the idea is if you have a confused child, bring them to kumon and we will teach them how to be less confused. So I guess it's sort of I guess like a proof of concept, but it makes me think whenever I see one, like this is like they're turning out additionally confused kids. Like it should be the kids should be jumping for joy with comprehension, not kind of being not puzzling. I still don't know what kumon do. When I think of kumon, I think of that Chris Fleming bit from that special that our friend Cap directed, you know, Chris Fleming was the end of comedian. Of course. I can't remember what is he's talking about modern parenting or something. I'm looking for it here. I guess we don't use it. Do we use this as intro tape or not? Let me look again. But he's like, I know he's he's talking like a kind of a parent who maybe gives their kids too long of a leash or something like that. And yeah, I guess I don't have it saved. I guess I was just watching it a lot when it kind of went viral and he's like, do you want to go to kumon? And I just like I wasn't sure like is kumon something that we reward kids with or like what is a kumon? It's a learning center. I think it's like if your kid is maybe having some challenges at school, you take them to kumon and they get some extra sort of tutoring or whatever. But the O in kumon is a kind of crudely drawn confused face. Yes, it's very often. I feel like doesn't instill, I know what they're saying. If your kid, if your kid looks like the O in kumon, bring them here. But it also just, it's just see, I don't know. I feel like it should be, they should be showing us the after, not the before. Yeah, I guess. I mean, is that the idea behind it or is it just childlike is my question? You know, like I've always been confused by that whole thing. Also, doesn't the kumon and shoreline right on the Seattle border that we're discussing? Isn't it, was it possibly a bikini barista stand at one point or is there a barista stand in that parking lot alongside it? Is there one in the kumon? Is there one in the kumon where I would bring my kid? Is it a bikini kumon? Can we just, I don't know if this is going to pay off, I can't remember how visual it was. But, bikini kumon. You remember this, now that I'm looking at it, it was Chris Fleming's bit. Again, our friend Kat directed this about it was called, what was it, parents and structured hats? Is that what it was called? Painter. So it's just saying, it's probably too long to play the whole thing and I don't know if it's going to translate. I went there child, then you know that that child's going to be your responsibility, because they're choosing a high sober parent team. They're not going to be willing to get their parents at risk for loss of their father, but they're not going to be willing to get their parents at risk for loss of their father, but they're not going to be willing to get their parents at risk for loss of their father, but they're not going to be willing to get their parents at risk for loss of their father, but they're not going to be willing to get their parents at risk for loss of their father, but they're not going to be willing to get their parents at risk for loss of their father, but they're not going to be willing to get their parents at risk for loss of their father, but they're not going to be willing to get their parents at risk for loss of their father, but they're not going to be willing to get their parents at risk for loss of their father, but they're not going to be willing to get their parents at risk for loss of their father, but they're not going to be willing to get their parents at risk for loss of their father, talking about two things you and I don't think have seen well one because I don't know if it's out yet in the other because we haven't seen it he's talking about weathering heights the okay a reboot right which has I think like Jacob allordy and a margo robby in it and then also heated rivalry the hockey show that that that again you and I are not watchers of but that is very big in the culture this is Chris Fleming talking about that stuff this may be left so hard the other day despite the fact that I have need I've not seen either of these things but very concerned about the Olympics coming to LA I am more concerned about the release of weathering heights I don't think the infrastructure we have in place they will stand the release of weathering heights we don't have enough aqueducts with those of you who don't know Jacob allordy and margo robby behind our backs made one way and they're releasing it on gallantines day which already is a real love and potential skin of a day it is going to be chaos if you thought that he had rivalry those two guys look like they can barely reach the milk at the grocery store Jacob allordy doesn't fit into most cars and he's only getting taller Jacob allordy is he stands up I jumps on the stool and then the stool kicks out from under him in a very dangerous moment for Chris Fleming by the way actually I'm gonna send this to a couple of school out on purpose or it's a little bit of a club that he ends up it's a club that he barely survives I'm gonna send you the pictures you know amazing amazing show pick sorry this is what's kind of visual he's pretending to be extra tall and be like Jacob allordy standing on the stool this is sure about two things planning getting warmer allordy getting taller I'm thinking of CAA gaming that's stretching him out for a hard style I have a theory any berry to you is under there I couldn't be saying it warmer he's talking about berry kiogan you know that guy who's like the actor of the moment is just under Jacob allordy again better better as a visual than a than an audio but man Chris Fleming is just incredibly incredibly funny yeah the energy on him to and the physicality like yeah and all of it you know me and it's not dependent on the physicality but then when you see him up there in these it's yeah it's truly art I'm I was looking at this Instagram thing he goes a Chris Fleming's thing is any pronouns you want I believe is oh yeah pronouns are Chris Fleming chooses any pronoun which I feel like is one of the nicest things you could do for the rest of us you know a lot of people talk about pronouns a lot of people get upset I mean any pronoun you want is like take your pick or you can't go wrong you just cannot go wrong with Chris Fleming and whatever you want to use for them I am I almost went a little wrong the other day Andrew in downtown Portland when I thought I was going to be possibly attacked by a mob of teens you who are on their lunch break is there anything scarier than a group of teens no youth scare me like at particularly I think when you get to our age like the older you get the scarier teens are so I was going on to say it was a bell curve I was very afraid of teens when I was a teen okay and then you got out of it for your 20s and part of your 30s and now you're back in it back in it again exactly which is weird because I do believe the teens of today generally speaking are probably less threatening than the teens that I grew up with that's what I thought three things panic getting warmer allorty getting taller teens still scary so I was going down to that TV station to do that little local appearance to promote live wire and I got out of my car and these teens were like well probably on their lunch break it was about 11 in the morning or something maybe 1055 so presumably lunch break and it was a group of let's say eight of them some it was like boys and girls and they were walking down this kind of inclined sidewalk as I was getting out of my car and one of the teens just absolutely eight shit like he just tripped in some way and fell really hard but because he's a teen it didn't hurt him in fact it may have made him strong you know like I would be currently hospitalized from that fall and in fact I was really worried because I saw this kid go down and I was like oh no like am I gonna have to do CPR which songs is staying alive but he popped right up and was laughing he was clearly a little bit embarrassed but laughing his friends were all laughing it was it was you know not super serious and I but I at that exact moment was now even with this group of teens and the kid had just fallen down and I was like oh man are you okay and he said yeah yeah and then he was wearing I realized like I'm just gonna call them Django jeans you know what I mean those like really what super crazy wide denim pants that were also and this is where I'm gonna sound real respectability politics so sagging not from the fall just the way that young people maybe wear their pants sometimes the pants were well below his butt cheeks if you know what I'm talking about yeah like he just the pants were so wide and so sagged and I could not avoid the urge after I said are you okay he was like yeah I go I can't imagine the pants are helping it was like we had this moment we're all kind of laughing and I was like are you okay and he said yeah and then I felt like what I think again this happened so quickly what I thought in the back of my mind must have been I'm gonna give this kid a good nature to ribbing kind of some sort of dad humor some like you know and I didn't say like pull your pants up I wasn't like all I said was I can't imagine the pants were helping because again like how are they even staying on his body they're so they were like he's stepping on them because they're so long they're under his shoes like again major tripping hazard and I could feel the energy in the group kind of mildly shift and this like one of the girls it was them go huh that's fraught yeah you know what I mean yeah and I don't know if this matters but I'll just mention these were all white kids by the way I just want to be clear I was gonna ask I do think it yeah all like kids and you know if I'm being if I'm being totally honest I probably would have I would have been even more careful with my words where I talking to kids who are not the same racist me just to be extra you know extra aware about everything yeah and also I mean like you just mention I mean just for context you mentioned I mean that it's a whole thing of respectability politics and everything that goes along with that and well if I saw a black teenager with their pants down I wouldn't comment on their pants right obviously yeah yeah but they were like the I the girls said something like huh or oh or something where it was like it went from like we're all laughing to like this oh by the way I was also in a suit jacket because I was about to go on TV it went from like oh this is like our friend fell down we're all kind of laughing the guy said like are you okay we're all in this together to like old guy is being judgmental old guys being judgmental and I and and by the way I'm just walking I'm like I didn't stop I'm not you know I'm not like spending time with the screw people I'm walking kind of through that was the other problems that they were kids these days Andrew the sidewalk was impassable because of yeah yeah these 18-agers who had no sense of their existence in space so I'm like walking up on the like beauty bark of the outside of the TV station to get around them and I said my thing about like I can't imagine the pants are helping and then the girl says some one of the girl says something that kind of tells me that like she sort of doesn't like what I said but also doesn't exactly know how to respond but like now it's like and then I keep like 10 steps ahead of them and I just hear now they by the way everything I'm gonna say about the aftermath of this it could be a hundred percent of my head nobody said anything specific to me nobody yelled hey old man nobody said we're coming for you but I just heard some kind of noises that seemed like they were maybe messing with me or they were kind of like I don't know I sensed that I had offended this group of young people and now I'm just walking to the door of the TV station and of course because of TV station it's like totally locked yeah you can't get in there you can't get in there there's like a security guard whose entire job is to just buzz people in and so but there's a big sign that's like hit this number on the door and I'm hitting the number and I'm like I'm like starting to get again I don't even have a specific there was not even anything specific the kids were saying there was just energetically this thing of like there's 18s that are now annoyed with me and I'm trying to buzz my way into this TV station and and I'm like it's taking what felt like a lifetime for the security guard who's just sitting at this desk looking at me to pick up the phone like if I'm the security guard I'm getting like a paperweight and I'm just putting it on the thing that buzzes people in because my only job at this TV station is to go hi can I help you and then it's me going hi I'm here for hello rose city okay let me buzz you in it's like you could save yourself a step I was getting this is why you by the way have not gotten any of those jobs you applied for as a security guard you don't think paperweight on the security system is a good approach I mean the fact that you bring it up in the interview every time I'm fact that I lead with it guys I have got I had a revolutionary idea revolutionary efficiency idea you know how you're paying someone to sit here and buzz people in what if you didn't have to pay them because it was just a paperweight you're applying for the job no what if you paid somebody but you paid him to be done in the break room drinking a soda or stealing from the Avanti market another that's by the way plan my subheading to this whole interview is also I think we should get rid of the cameras in the Avanti by the way Avanti market was the snack area where you could purchase snacks and beverages and stuff at our old workplace is as somebody who goes into these TV stations from time to time to do like promos do you or the the interviews have you seen Avanti markets anywhere other than Cairo radio one place and it's Ron Tonkin Mazda really okay only other Avanti market I've ever seen in the wild is at the place that I take my car in for like it's scheduled maintenance and how does it rank compared to the Avanti that you've grown accustomed to well I feel completely comfortable stealing from both locations so I'd say it's pretty similar yes but I mean it was it as big was it I got to say it was like a whole it was not as big as the Cairo on it's not an entire room it's a little it's a little nook yeah okay but they serve non-media outlets as well that's good to know yeah I wonder I don't know if that's Googleable I wonder how many Avanti markets there are and also what the what the sort of what's it called like loss prevention is what the what the rate of theft is I mean I wouldn't say I stole from that thing because by the way there's nobody there it has allegedly some cameras just was to kind of self-check out and of course my whole thing on that was the signs that let you know about the cameras say cameras are installed for your protection yes that's what they wrote on the signs and it's just always really ready I don't mind them saying listen this is a self-serve place and you can't trust everybody people like it Luke Burbank and John Curly work here we have to have cameras we have to steal from that yet just you think he's ever paid for anything out of there um and believe me I know I like that guy thinks he deserves it all anyway but so it's fine like a self-serve place should have cameras we're fine with that but don't tell me it's for my protection what like is is what was Dorees producer's name is Jake Jake score high score high I'm gonna jump me in the Avanti market is that why it's for my protection well if he jumps you and there's no footage angel how will we press charges really in lawless Seattle the one at the uh... ron Tonkin said it's to save the whales we have these cameras here save the whales right right right right right also connected so all that is to say um nothing else happened but it was this weird moment where I found myself oddly frightened based on nothing really happening other than some unidentifiable noises from some kids that were all let me also mention three to four hundred feet away from me like they never deviated from the sidewalk they didn't come over to the TV station of door where I was standing like I was not in any danger and yet the fear felt very the danger felt very real and close to me from just thinking I may have offended teenagers so I have found something that I find to be somewhat interesting here a mug shot of me from the Avanti yes you and currently but you both are all do not serve this person just a big giant inflated whatever security can't pick up me did Nick Noltee have a yes yeah I'm okay yeah I was gonna say you're all Nick Noltee up but then I I didn't trust my memory I'm Nick Noltee is top of mind for me because I still when I go to bed now I still do the game of listing actors who have the first letter of their first and last name the same Alan Arkin et cetera and so and I basically can rattle through the whole thing but I still fall asleep at some point but my gen is Nick Noltee Bob Baliband oh yeah we've talked about this and you know what I realized last night Genevieve had Guffman on last night and two of my actors and I can I because I've been doing this for like at least a year or whatever and so I just like I do what I it's not even usually at night it's more if I wake up in the middle of the night or in the morning I'm trying to get a little bit more shut I'll come okay Alan Arkin Bob Baliband Chris Cooper Danny DeVito or Dom DeLoweeze by the way is a new one that makes in some time I don't have anything for a million west of us other than a million west of us I have nothing for ease I should say other than a million having said all of that I I feel like I have a bond with these people now if I see it if I see a Gina Gerson F is oh this is a rough one because I can't think of anybody contemporary and so I'm always going with Francis Farmer but I'm up for better I'm up for because I only know her more is a Nirvana song title than actual act I didn't actually know there was a Nirvana song with Francis Farmer will have her revenge on Seattle is a song by Nirvana and so that's how I know that name but I don't know if I've ever seen her in anything the only letters I have to skip some letters and I know that this is kind of well-worn territory I've talked about this on the show before but I skip over the eyes some people will suggest Idris Elba but one name begins with an I the other one begins with an E so that doesn't that's racist to be I I I so I can't find anybody with an I I or a O O or a you you those are you use gonna be tough yeah all of those and I even finally when that's looking up at I cheated one day and looked up eyes I just couldn't find any are there any first names that start with you you love I know something in the Ula in that EU you know it is an EU you're right uncle Frank I'm bear to echo but I'm but I'm bear to is a you first name I was yeah that's not gonna help you but and my uncle got there don't forget that I'm yeah I'm anyway I'm trying to remember who else would be can since I've totally blown up the I was gonna tell you something that I thought was interesting it's probably not but since we've blown up the show with the stupid game anyway who would be the two actors that I saw in Guffman last night because Bob and another and another double lettered actor yeah Guffman cast I swear I was like watch oh Parker Posey my my is my double P Parker Posey Bob Ballamanda my goal would be to get all of my double lettered celebrities and they're all from film by the way they're not just famous people in and direct a movie with all of them yes I mean you've got all the ones we've mentioned so far are still with us Nick Nolte so far yeah I'm Francis Farmer probably not but I think we did Susan Sarandon is my ass like yeah we still with her certainly did you watch any of Guffman did you like I watched like this first half of it and then I I went to bed and I've been reading this book that I kind of devouring and I just could I could spin on my mind every time it's rare that I'm reading a book like I'm reading I think I mentioned this show it started reading all the pretty horses which you know like oh wow yeah I'm not like yeah I'm not a big comic McCarthy person but I wanted to read more I read the road a long long time ago when it was kind of new-ish and that was really I mean that's when the darkest I read in my life when I read the road I literally was like I was like when's it gonna turn when's the when's the happy part I literally thought that like I was reading it and I kept being like this is pretty bleak but like I can't wait till they get off the road yeah you're like I just kept waiting for the like the happy ending that shows you my my misunderstanding of core Mac McCarthy's uvra but like I remember turning the last page of the road and being like where's the rest oh it's just sad it's just underlensing all unrelenting we sell yeah I get it okay and that one is actually if I recall again it's been a long time but also gory in in some ways and in his restrained way but anyway I didn't expect this to be such a page turner because it starts off pretty you know what what's where I'm looking for a pastoral is that a word you know it's like very you know and and I was really enjoying it but then then something happened about halfway through where I literally cannot put it down and so anyway so I went to bed kind of early but I watch maybe half of Guthman while we played some cards and yeah of course it's just I've seen Guthman so many times that I don't think there's anything in there that I haven't that I haven't run all of the juice out of you know what I mean there's no scenes that pop up and it's like oh I forgot about that one although Genevieve did point out you get a very very very brief glimpse of Bob Oden Kirk because remember his scene is cut out of the movie he's dressed up like a vampire or something but you see one shot of him because he it's during the audition montage and yeah it does an audition which you can find maybe you can find this online right now play the audio from excited I don't remember if the audio would play without the visual but I believe Bob Oden Kirk is dressed up like some sort of a tall vampire or something for his audition the audition gets cut out of the movie but there's a very brief shot of him in the background if you know what you're looking for have you found it from the deleted I'm I'm waiting for a peloton ad to clear you to I hope it pays off I don't know he meant juggler something I have no idea what he does I can't recall okay so here's the thing this already looks like it's very low quality looks like someone pointing not even a phone Andrew oh no like maybe a early digital video camera at the screen but I'm gonna play it anyway it's two minutes and four seconds it's starting with the guy the very sort of mild mannered looking guy who I believe is doing a scene from maybe taxi driver oh yeah I'm looking at you fuck my wife you fuck my wife looking at these same exact the most random guy do you have it there do you want to play it I can play it here it looks like the same exact one that you have though it's like from a too real or it looks like it's a VHS or something is it from yes exactly so let's turn the scene from the movie rating bull a raging bull that's he actually he actually says it your shy skip ahead a little bit although you've already said it twice I guess that's right corky just puts his hands in his face and his mouth and his eyes get so wide and by this guy's doing both characters I believe in the monologue okay so I'm gonna skip ahead here to okay the woman is playing the piano and she's like just accompanying everybody who's auditioning and then it looks like Bob Odin Kirk comes out here dressed as some sort of a vampire here Paul me breathe it blow your joy invite us and as we gently roll basically for the last 15 years I have been the music teacher at Blaine High and part of my job and a very important part is to put on a show every year which I have done completely by myself this year it's going to be different because corky being from New York being a professional and having put on some very theatrical productions here is going to be directing the show he is just so his his reserved recent meant just simmering rage about losing the gig so much anyway Bob is just singing I guess he's just for some reason dress great I had no idea like and I I consider myself a real sort of government aficionado but like I did not know that he made in France it would it would check out obviously he's probably friends with all those people also David Cross of course oh right of course famously in it he's yeah we use that taste sometimes he's like a speaking of weather patterns he's the guy standing in the middle of a crop circle yeah and he literally says what you started the show by saying he says the joke is he says there's always an 80% chance of rain always or something that like kind of doesn't make logical sense that it could always be the same there's a non a hundred percent chance of rain there's a point I don't know if it's at that part of the movie or later where they cut to David Cross trying to measure the crop circle but his tape measure isn't long enough so it's about half of the width of the crop circle then he's trying to do the rest of it just by kind of doing the splits and measure like it's just like for some reason so funny to me that he's he doesn't have a long enough tape measure for the crop circle so he's trying to finish the last part of it just based on his stance you know what I wonder because he's kind of talking voice over while you see him doing the measurements and I wonder if I've just never noticed that he's using his his split to do it yeah yeah anyway the good news is I survived my my brush with youth and I learned my lesson don't comment on the youth's fashion unless you want to be set upon don't comment on anybody's fashion I guess unless he's Billy Bob Thornton I guess the thing that I wanted to say before was I thought it'd be funny if I googled or not even Google but like typed into Google maps of Vonti markets just to see like would they pop up everywhere would they show an Avanti market inside Kyra radio on Google Maps and the answer sadly is no the the answer sadly is not yes but what I did find here is a free standing Avanti market Luke and this is blowing my mind so this is somewhere between and I don't know this area that well it's like down east I'm sorry yeah east of C-TAC market or I'm sorry C-TAC airport so it's kind of let's see here between Tuckwila and Renton maybe if I'm looking this right yeah between Tuckwila and Renton there's a free standing Avanti market and it from the outside it it's gotten Avanti market sign is it positive with our corporate headquarters well I'm looking to see if that's the case because it definitely looks like a weird corporate building that's I'm looking at in Renton Washington there's an Avanti market's corporate office that must be it yes yes that's what I'm looking at I was confused because the preview image shows somebody in a little market with a table and they're buying things with their phone so I thought that you could actually just walk into the Avanti market but this is their corporate headquarters but we could pay them a visit and ask them about the security cameras and whether or not keeping people TV telephone this summer from Avanti markets what if you and I each choose our favorite Avanti markets you me and John and we all join from different Avanti markets or we do a tour of some sort I feel like Avanti markets walked so that those Amazon stores could run yes which you know because those Amazon things are you know I've used like one of those in the airport once have you seen the one that's in I think it's in C-TAC I have not used one in C-TAC I was the one in the stadium yeah that's what you know what I was confusing that the one at the ballpark is wild like the number of cameras that are coming down from like the the ceiling it's like hundreds and hundred I mean I guess that's you know the whole point of it they're there for your protection there for the whales right exactly all right let's thank some donors these wonderful generous folks are donating to TBL which is how this whole thing can happen no security cameras it is the honor system really is about it this is the Avanti market of podcast mmm I would like to back away from that branding you come in you enjoy the podcast we hope you pay for it yeah and yeah and the way out please do don't be a jerk early no be an Andrew yeah and follow the rules and tip the border be an Andrew tip the robots I just a little something for you yeah by yourself some grease all robots are bender from future on in my mind yes by yourself fortified wine I want to just quickly mention again that the emails I believe now two rounds of emails have gone out to folks who are donating at the dazzling level and if you if you did that and you want to send in a message we would love you to do that we will read just about anything that you want to say to us in the meantime let's thank Kristen Kelly who's in willow bee new south whales Australia wow now do you want to check the weather again yeah let's find out actually can we look at new south whales Australia specifically I'm looking at new south well as Australia says a 66 degrees Fahrenheit right now wow that's not that I'm surprised because like obviously the seasons are reversed so we're in what was like the kind of the dead of winter here shouldn't be the dead of summer there I would think so but it is morning there so it's 66 degrees at 6 a.m. oh I'm wondering if the day is going to be a little bit warmer is the day progressive but for some reason progresses I should say but for some reason I have trouble finding the the let's see oh it looks like the high will be 81 today okay so that's some time yeah nice day for Kristen Kristen thank you so much I'm curious how Kristen heard about the show do you think maybe on our trip through Australia maybe we we happened into Kristen maybe that subway went to had the best subway sandwich of my life the one in the gas station was that one in the gas station so I think like you know why you like that sandwich so much because it was the first person to recognize our American accents I think I did I'd forgotten about that but I see that's the case you're like finally somebody sees us outside I did think it was weird that as we traveled through the just absolute like hinterlands of Australia it seemed uninteresting to people that we had American accents which I just thought if I was in whatever the the equivalent of the northern territories of America and somebody had an Australian accent I feel like I would note it you think you'd say something but I would freaking good see that's the thing though I just feel like you wouldn't notice it or you would think it was a kind of I would I would notice it privately but I I don't like saying to people oh I don't like talking about people's accents I feel like that's something that they have to talk about way more than they want if if you're in an area where the way you speak your dialect is different than the than the local culture like do you want to see if you're in Australia living in America do you want to constantly be saying like yes I have an Australian accent yes it wouldn't be the but see here's a thing it wouldn't be the accent I was commenting on it would be the oh are you from Australia oh right like yeah you know what I mean it would be more like to me it'd be a jumping off point it wouldn't be like hey hey what's up with your accent it would be more like oh wow you you seem like you might be from Australia how do you find yourself in the northern territory of America whatever that would be and they like obviously say a law enforcement conference of some sort that's that's how we met Brian Gordon of Woodenville Washington who's our second donor today thank you Brian that's right thank you also to Jeffrey Burke of New York City wow they named it twice accidentally New York New York I'm sure that I was telling you this one of the many times I've been there in the last couple of years but Beck and I have a little inside joke which was when we visited I don't know a couple of times ago have you seen these 360 degree selfie yes camera platform let me let me clarify I have seen the results of them on Instagram I've never seen one in person I don't think or I walked right by it not knowing what it was you'd probably remember because yeah it's like a it's like a circular platform that you stand on it's just got this camera that's on a you know a rotating 360 rearmament goes around you and there are like many many of them in Times Square and everyone we walked past and then also every like either a kind of a rickshaw or even some of the horse and carriages basically the 360 degree camera things and then many of the like bicycle rickshaws they were all blasting Alicia Keys in New York concrete jungles when you burn and it was just like God that's an amazing how did they pick that song yeah so now anytime I'm in New York and I walk past one of those I have to videotape it playing New York and send it to becaue you're not gonna believe the song they're using let me ask you a question yes is that a standalone song or is she just on the JZ song right because that's a JZ song is he sampling a full song that she does or she just featured on his I think she's featured on that's what I always assume it's technically a JZ song not an Alicia Keys I think of it as an Alicia that's what I assumed but I'm not even sure and I'm kind of looking it up and I'm not getting great answers but yeah I think I think it's the JZ song that it features her I wasn't sure if maybe JZ loved a song by her and then you know either sampled it or partnered with her to like kind of reuse it I think that those little like selfie machines 360 things I don't know if they've got an edit but I swear to God you never hear JZ in the version that you're walking by because it's like he's just wrapping right but the Alicia Keys thing is the thing that's very yeah New York focused yeah when she's singing it and I swear to God they have like a 30-second loop that they're playing that's just the Alicia Keys thing wait hold on can I tell you a quick story and I gotta be I'm gonna have to ask Dave and Aaron Goulet of Edmunds Washington if they'll allow because there are other they will they will Dave and Aaron thank you or Edmunds tens I'm gonna be a little bit I'm an oblique man's I want to I want a non-ex-black man I'm gonna be single day I'm an oblique man so I'll try to be opaque is that what he says I think I'm reversing it now and now I'm in my head about it but I think he says I'm a I'm an oblique man so I'll be a two I'm a two man I'm a two-man so I'll try to be oblique yes anyway I just love that line so much I love his delivery it lives in my head all the time and lately we've been letting it bubble out and yeah I can't give all the names but I will describe this friend is somebody who I like and somebody whom we used to work with and somebody whom I go to occasional baseball games and in this case the occasional concert with but he at between you and I has a reputation for not staying past say the six or seven inning because you want to be traffic and stuff like that stuff that is like and so usually who I will say good on his Mount Rushmore of rappers exactly I know M&M and the BC boys are both up there so which is another dazzling detail about this friend who I love and I don't want to dunk on too much behind his back but it was funny one day he made a conversation and asked me about the Mount Rushmore of rappers in my opinion and hearing his list contained a lot more whites than I expected but that is to say I was at a Jay Z show with him because another mutual friend of ours I think it won the tickets via the radio and then couldn't and invited and then couldn't go so yeah I do who's on your Mount Rushmore of snitching you know it is too funny I'll just leave it in but what happens is I probably said it twice I'll believe at once and all these people are like people are always so concerned when I I told some long-ass story about my neighbor one time and I left in his name like three times anyway so this anonymous man you took me to the show because he had an extra ticket the Atlanta Falcon Hillary Clinton anyway that's just for us in Simpson's numbers okay so anyway I was really shocked is that we went to the show and neither one of us are huge Jay Z fans but you know I had several records and it was like a free show and it was like I think it was maybe my first time oh you know it was still key arena that's right it was the last time I went into key arena before it became you know the Amazon Center yeah and anyway I just remember my buddy this mysterious man of the night say it maybe before the show even began like all he really wanted to hear was is it New York State of mind I got to get the name of this song whatever song was that song specifically is yeah the Empire State of mind sorry but yeah he I remember him specifically saying I want to hear Empire State of mind and then you know this concert starts actually quite great I had not been to an arena show it's so long and they did a really good job of even though we were way up in the nosebleeds like still making you feel like part of the show and everything it was really great but then Jay Z and I can't remember what the trilogy would be although I think I knew all the songs but he starts what is obviously a New York centric trilogy okay and I can't remember where the first song is we're listening to it then the second song and I think he's even referencing the fact that he's doing a little stop down tribute to New York and then in the middle of the second song my buddies like I think I'm gonna take off now and I started on this a true story and I was like but they're gonna play your song next man until he stuck around he's like how did you know and I was like they're doing the New York songs now and this is gonna be the last song of the New York portion of the show obviously it's as big as it anyway I'm not trying to dunk too hard it was just it was sort of sweet it's like well I think I'm gonna take off I'm like dude I think you're I think if you stick around you're gonna hear your song Empire State that's sort of like the speaking of the Simpsons one of I think my favorite I mean it's very hard to pick one but like when Homer goes to a Bachman Turner overdrive concert and he's like played he's yelling play taking care of business and they finally agree like okay they start playing it and then they just start he yells play the work in overtime workout part he just doesn't even want to just want one part of the song feels good to laugh and thank Matthew McClure who's in Glenn Ellen Illinois that's a place I don't know if I've heard of other than maybe last year when Matthew donated thank you Matthew yeah thanks Matthew hope you're doing well in Glenn Ellen and then of course Eric Rydin is checking in from Seattle Washington a place that I know and love and think about often yes thank you very much Eric thank you to all of our donors for making TBT possible today thank you for not just fast forwarding to the work and overtime workout part of the show but thanks for listening to all of this and supporting it we really do appreciate you hello and welcome to top story so a a coyote has apparently managed to swim to Alcatraz they've never seen this before first of all as a person who barely cleared the marina in San Francisco Bay that one time for a TV story I can't believe this juvenile coyote pulled this off I think animals are just made of tougher stuff you think than us humans then you and me then you and me certainly than me I can't speak for you but man like having spent five minutes in the what really might take away from doing that little swimming project was like there's no way those dudes escaped from Alcatraz oh right they 100% died like that water is crazy but here's the problem so first of all they they people saw the coyote swimming they sought get onto Alcatraz but it was very it was very wet obviously it was shivering it was cold it was like it didn't they didn't think that coyote was going to survive but now it has survived and now that I know what to do with it because it turns out that that island is like a ruckery for like thousands and thousands of quamerans and other kind of birds and they're worried the coyote is going to eat all the bird oh I did hear that park because I know I was just seeing bits and pieces about this and I don't remember where but I remember saying somebody somebody's saying like I'm obsessed with the coyote did they know that the coyote was heading out there before because I feel like I saw some update in one of my feeds that said the coyote made it and now he's chomping down well they found one like a bird like a bird skeleton that was picked clean and their assumption is it was probably the coyote because that maybe there's not anything else out there that they know of what would have done that I I don't think well of course who can really know Andrew who truly can know what lies in the heart of a coyote other than wanting to get that dang road runner yeah um but I've one of the theories is that it just it got the coyote was got spooked or was out for a swim or was with other coyotes and got sort of separated by the current again who can know but but but it seems like there's a theory that it wasn't trying to go to alcatraz it was just for some weird reason in the water and then that was the like the the closest thing that was shoreline for it to get to but to me it I don't know it so they're also worried that the coyote won't survive for long because there's no shade on alcatraz which is kind of weird to me so they're trying to trap it and get it off of there I don't know I feel like it seems to me like it is na is that I guess my question is is that nature just doing what nature do in other words these birds have been living there and nesting and having their babies out there because they can but then like if it was a thousand years ago and a coyote swam out there maybe it just becomes coyote island now right yeah right what you're doing nature I guess I also sort of wonder was there a moment where we as a human might look back and realize oh we're a quarter of the way out we should turn around because we can't make it but maybe the coyote is like once you're on this journey you just go forward I am reminded of something and unfortunately I always famously have very little regret yeah you did us not looked as soon as he looks down he's in trouble so this is a show where we're taking some pretty wild swings on content on tape that we're playing like even by our standards even by our standards so I don't know if this works at all but what you're talking about really reminds me of some tape that really effed with me last week when I saw it and you might already be familiar with this but if you're not I'm gonna need you to put eyes on this as well Luke and the listeners were just gonna have to bring them along with us but have you seen the clip that you will find if you google nihilist penguin verna hurtsog okay this is one of the saddest things I've ever seen in my life so this is part of some doc and I don't know what the doc is I'll bet you the some listeners know that I don't but this is a scene from one of his docs that apparently focuses on nature I'm guessing and verna off camera is talking to some penguin expert and don't by the way no there's no like death or okay there's no predator pray stuff going that's where I was gonna know no no I wouldn't do that no no no I wouldn't do that but this is this is sad in a different way that's gonna make your soul cry so it begins with some voices you're gonna hear verna off camera talking to this guy asking him something absolutely batshit I can't it's something can a penguin go insane I think yes this guy can a penguin go in the flat brain and then the the camera just starts to follow like these penguins and most of them all are going to one place some sort of ice flow or something and then there's just one penguin that decides to strike out on his own and they have no idea why Dr. Indy is there such thing as insanity among penguins I try to avoid the definition of insanity or derangement I don't mean that a penguin might believe he he was she is leaning Napoleon Bonaparte but could they just go crazy because I've had enough of their colony I'm gonna pause it here are you watching along I'm watching right first of all isn't it a fine crazy yes he brings up Napoleon which I mean just what a wild ride in any conversation with him and so now and so the guy is gonna try to answer this batshit question as best as he can well I've never seen a penguin bashing its head against a rock they do get disoriented they end up in places they shouldn't be long way from the ocean these penguins are all heading to the open border to the right but one of them caught our eye the one in the center so all these penguins most of the penguins are moving way off to the right there's a very very wide shot of a white snowy icy expanse and then there's two little penguins left in the shot and then one of them starts walking back to where he came from so most of them are moving to the right one of them is moving to the left leaving this one lonely penguin just standing still in the middle of this nowhere he would neither go towards the feeding grounds at the edge of the ice nor return to the colony shortly afterwards we saw him heading straight towards a mountains some 70 kilometers away doctor Aine Lee explained that even if he caught him and brought him back to the colony he would immediately head right back for the mountains but why so now we see some closer footage of him handle that little penguin I know first are we sliding on his belly yeah you see that he slides and then just gets right back up I guess that's how they do and then there's some people out there but the people are now allowed to touch them so the people just stand stock still and let the penguin just walk right by him which must be so hard you see this little tuxedo guy you're like little buddy don't head to the mountains you're not going to survive there one of these disoriented or deranged penguins showed up at the new harbour diving camp already some 80 kilometers away from where it should be the rules for the humans are do not disturb a hold up the penguin stand still and let him go on his way and here he is heading off into the interior of the vast continent with 5,000 kilometers ahead of him he's heading towards certain death I'm gonna cry when that penguin walks by the human and the human is doing what he's supposed to do just stand very still and the penguin stretches out his wings but why why not help the see this is the thing we take it as a given that we can't mess with nature at all but in this case how could it be worse for this penguin than than what it was going to do to itself do you need me to get west on the line wait who may or may not be a real person did you get the latest pitch from west at pita by the way no have I but it maybe it's in my email and I haven't checked it was from a couple weeks ago he said here's a letter that we sent jody alan to try to convince her to use a robot osprey instead of a real life osprey at the seahawks games which honestly I wouldn't be against the road that nobody awesome right like why not yeah it's it's it's weird that the NFL did you see this that Roger Gidell had to go on the record as saying the NFL is not pressuring her to sell the see hawks I am so confused because I feel like the story whips back and forth but he was was it yesterday the day before he was on he was being interviewed as something related to probably the build up to the super bowl right and I saw that you weighed in but I wasn't clear as to what he said because there is a she does have to sell right lately yes and it's in the will of Paul Allen or some yeah which I don't understand why that was in his will that well I think because he you know wanted his assets he wanted his his fortune to be sort of distributed to I think various charitable causes and obviously the Portland Trailblazers and the Seattle Seahawks are two extremely big assets in his portfolio so I think it was just kind of the sort of the dispersal of his of his again assets so it has to happen but like but it's also weird because Roger Gidell said you know like she's been a great owner they're at the super bowl which is all true and you know when it's time for her to sell it or when she decides to sell it will support her in that but I thought it's probably just written it's legal right it's like when she decides to sell it like I guess I haven't looked at the will yeah sounds like it's not really up to her yeah that's what I'm confused about it like was there a timeline built in because it was it was pretty shocking like I think the headline broke last Thursday I want to say or maybe last time your timing when your team is about to play in the super bowl yeah I was broken by ESPN but picked up by the Seattle Times and that's how I saw it as like an actual news alert like the the Seahawks will be sold after the Super Bowl and then the Jody Allen slash Seahawks front-off has came out and didn't completely denied it said this is not true yes eventually the team will have to be sold that's in the will but the plans are not being made right now and so it sort of sounds like there are some insiders who are claiming that things are already moving and and then for some reason maybe because they don't want to take away from the Super Bowl or be a distraction to the team I don't know what but they are like pretty vociferously denying that that wheels are in motion now so I'm not exactly sure about the whole thing but I guess we got to be ready for it to happen at some point which is kind of a bummer because to her credit like she's hiring the right people right to do the right things and I mean she seems like such a good custodian for the team yeah she's I mean if she would just get a robot osprey I think the all the way there we're so close the thing that really terrifies me about that is the fact that Jeff Bezos is being bandied about as somebody who would buy this he tried to buy the Washington football team I guess and he was he didn't he wasn't able to pull it off somehow like you want to talk about really really bumming me out about my football team if you let old Lex Luthor buy them yeah although in this day and age are there any is there anybody out forward a football team that you know that's the whole good person like it's just no you could only get the amount of wealth that you need to buy a football team through through basically victimizing people on some level like no like you know the singer James Taylor doesn't have enough money to buy the sea hocks which I think of the the gentlest soul that I could think of and James Taylor is who came to mind or as brother Livingston Taylor I got it by your livington Taylor and me and you're my dream to someday say to James Taylor aren't you Livingston's brother anyway yeah this conversation is depressed me can we cheer ourselves up with that penguin tape again just roll it exactly roll it back by the way do you feel like Werner Herzog he says he's not trying to be mean but the second time that he refers to the penguin is deranged as it just follows its own well we know he has it out for birds yeah that's right the chick he hates chickens I wonder if that's from the same dog yeah oh maybe it's a whole doc about birds or maybe I don't know what this is from that I was playing all I know is it really it really impacted me last week yeah no and thank you for putting that evil inside me because I will never I don't think you saw but I was holding up this little penguin yeah to the thing because you know Addy and I have a whole penguin thing when she was a little kid I had this book we had this book called tacky the penguin about about a penguin who doesn't fit in with the other very buttoned up kind of fancy penguins he's kind of in fact he's wearing the same shirt that Nick Nolte is wearing in his mug shot okay who just to say a Hawaiian shirt and and and he's kind of an embarrassment to all the other penguins and then of course at the end it turns out that tackies sort of gregarious nature saves them from these hunters that have come to catch the penguins anyway so Addy and I have always kind of love penguins and we have this whole thing where it's like if we ever if like there's and oftentimes they'll sell penguins kind of in like little you know sculptors them or whatever in two they'll be a big one and a little one so if I ever see that I buy them I send a little one to her and I keep the big one or vice versa so I feel especially connected to the idea of penguins and that that video really really bum me out when you held up that little penguin statue at I don't know if you recall this because you've told that before and I always I think I always rejoinder is that the right word with this story but because these and I also have a thing about penguin especially that little statue at and this is hard to explain and I think I think it originates as gifts from Genevieve's mom and Genevieve's mom might be listening so apologies Meg if I get this wrong but I think so Genevieve also has or we have a penguin little Trotchkey about the size of the one you have there maybe slightly taller than it and I think we got that as a gift when Genevieve and I were on Christmas Day this is my memory we're opening up gifts and Genevieve's mom had that little penguin wrapped up in something we opened it up we're like oh it's a little penguin and then this is my memory tell me I could be wrong about this maybe Genevieve will tell me if I'm wrong but then we were opening more gifts and we found a penguin that is maybe a 16th of the size of that thing like tiny like like smaller than your thumbnail was in another gift and so Genevieve and I immediate and this is going back 20 years or something just started riffing about like looking at the the slightly bigger penguin and screaming I said I wanted a small penguin I got it and then we found this like tiny tiny tiny guy and that tiny tiny guy is now living in this tiny little like fake toy kitchen that thing that we have stuck to our wall at our kitchen he's just like a tiny tiny little guy so we also have little tiny penguins in our life too so you also feel the pain of that penguin I do love penguins if you were to ask me as a kid or I mean now I don't know if I have opinions on the matter I got checking with West but like I know that there is a you know for most of my life if you had said what is your favorite animal I would have said a penguin and I did say a penguin I just think that they're just absolutely adorable they waddle around they look like they're all dressed up like they have those little margay they got that that's right that's right I love that for that they're very very interesting the animal exactly here I go once again with the man every week I hope that it from a female oh man it's not from a female all right any emails or emails before we get out of here today yeah somebody sent us this voice memo I don't know if I have a name attached to it or not it doesn't look like I've put their name in but I think they'll identify themselves this looks like kind of a long message but the only thing I know about I haven't heard the whole thing but I know that it is coming from the field and it involves the conversation around backing in when you're my favorite topic your favorite topic exactly because famously you've shackled me to you as the listeners pull you down just a reminder to everybody I don't care hey luke and Andrew it's Dan in Seattle um reporting here from the sky zone trampoline park in south center as your uh back in parking correspondent I just walked through the parking lot and this is interesting because this is a parking lot it's inside a like garage area like a big warehouse type thing and this it's tight it gets really busy here at the trampoline park um kids come here a lot and uh this the parking spots are angled and so as you're driving you know the direction you're supposed to go in the in the like road thing um you're supposed to pull in at an angle into a spot and I just walked past most of the cars in this thing and only two are backed in and both of them are trucks larger trucks kind of aggressive wash and first of all what that means is either they had to do a really complicated thing to back into the spot because the angled nature of the parking spots or they just went the wrong way um to be able to back into them and then uh second of all it means when they leave it defeats the purpose of backing into the spot because it's way easier to back out of an angled parking spot than to nose out of an angled parking spot they're going to have to do an extreme sort of like 135 degree turn to get out and likely a you know three to six point turn to get out of their spot in this tight parking lot and lastly the coding that luke brings up one of them had a ball cap in the dashboard that said make prayer great again prayer and this one I'm working out right now has a um just black and white American flag on the gas like the gas area that's been my problem with American flag too much color too much color I know you know any changing of the American well it's the fraught symbol anyway but making it black and white it just always makes me a little nervous I don't know what it means I know what it means one's got a blue line through the middle I don't know what the only black and white one means means punisher um but it feels like it means something especially in this contact so for my money put put a you know check in the column of a little bit strangely coded behavior with the backing in of the trucks in the parking lot all right love the show that is interesting the angle the angle I really didn't know where that was going by the way I didn't know if that was going to absolutely never played it if you're very supporting me yeah right yeah because I'm so antagonistic towards you all the time um I uh it is interesting like in that case because I'm with the most listeners like well it does make sense if you're driving a truck your backing in does make sense and I think that for other people like I just think that it makes sense in a lot of cases but it really doesn't seem to make sense in an angled spot like that because it would be so much harder to do because I as he was describing it you're driving down Dan was having trouble thinking of what to call be your driving down let's say an aisle any of those angled parking spots I think of them almost as silly uh sort of like you're going kind of against the grain so you can easily nose into one but to back into one of those I don't even know how you would begin to do it and especially in a garage like that I will say that yes I mean there are certainly some examples of certain vehicles where probably it makes sense um so you know and people have emailed me and said well I drive this kind of rig and this is why I need to do it or whatever but I do think living in red America like I do that there is a certain weird like tactical nature to it I don't know if it's that you think you need to escape the Walmart parking lot in case of an emergency or something there something about it that feels oh like I said a little Republican coded to me so I appreciate that listener agreeing with me and uh proving me right once and for all I mean yeah I think there's a definite correlation between those kinds of trucks and the political leanings that you mention sure and then there's a truck related more so than parking in other words yeah I do think that if you could if you drive a big truck like that no matter how you view the world it makes sense to back in but I think that those trucks go way more towards people who have the views as you describe them right so yeah maybe it's like the parking is the sort of is the secondary effect that's how I feel another words like this if somebody lost their truck in a gambling thing I don't know how some some some guy is going to join he's got a giant truck he's got the sass clutch on the back of it but then he says he's a poker game and for some reason he says all in and this is everything I know about poker by the way he says all in the truck key and he puts the truck in the middle pushes it in the middle right and then and he he loses it because he's only got what's a bad hand oh a jack two he's got a jack two that's the worst hand you know right which is also what he nicknamed is truck the jack two by the way which is off to then oh but anyway so then he can't afford another truck so he has to buy a key a soul and because by the way I saw a key a soul with a blue live hamsters living in it I saw a key a soul with a blue lives matter sticker on it or like a little magnet or something but the the the kind that Dan was describing there like the black white flag with the blue stripe and I was like wow that might be the only key a soul with a blue lives matter sticker on it anyway I'm just wondering what's even smaller a geoprism what's the smallest car you can think of is this guy who lost this this conservative mag a guy who lost his truck in this in this well told poker game but I describe now seven two offsuit would be the worst possible and I said jack two because I've been annoyed at people betting into me with the jack two but that's not technically the worst it was seven two offsuit would be the worst I was going to say something but I didn't want to embarrass you but anyway is he backing his geoprism in because he thinks like well I'm still who I am politically I kind of doubt it but maybe you think so I think he would well you write because I it's not exclusively trucks that I see doing okay it's it's all manner of vehicle but it is it's it's more tends to be trucks doesn't it but I think that guy I think he would also back his you know again it's hard to prove sort of a hypothetical in this way but I think he would back his geoprism I mean I don't think he would truck and use a cute little penguin and he just like it's all down like two or three hops and just keep waddling up walk away from everyone and everything you've ever loved it that's what I need to do you know what when I see when I see somebody in the world who bugs me they've got to make the prayer great again hat in their truck I just got to imagine them as a sad little penguin yeah yeah I didn't get enough love you know their way have find some empathy for them so that's the takeaway from today's episode all right thank you everyone for listening that's going to wrap it up for today but we are going to be right back here tomorrow with more of this here imaginary radio so if you can please join us for that in the meantime everybody have a great Tuesday take care yourself stay safe and please remember no mountain to tall and good luck to all you the enormity of their flat brain the enormity of their stupidity is just overwhelming you have to do yourself a favor when you're out in the countryside and you see chicken try to look a chicken in the eye with great intensity and the intensity of stupidity that is looking back at you it's just amazing power out