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No, look behind you. There's literally no. Gotcha. Made you. Gotcha. I wonder what they're gonna get. Max, you spilled some on your shirt. Oh, gotcha. Gotcha. I didn't look. I thought about it. I almost got you. Gotcha. Did you get that on camera? I didn't look. I think your head looked, your eyes stayed up. Yes. We don't have anything planned for this year. Last year was organic. Well, Jerry also tried to plan this year's April Fools, but it was not going to work out. He said, Jerry texted PFT and I said, guys, think about an April Fools. Gino calling in for memes. I would have actually liked to hear that. Boozer calling in for Hank, Fred Ridley for Hank, and then he'd sign to Jerry O. Okay. All right. Now I actually have an idea for an April Fools. We play the April Fools on Jerry. What if we get Jerry to call in as Gino for memes and memes? You act like you're going along with it. Like you can't believe that you talked to Gino. Yeah. All right. Okay. All right. Can you do that memes? I'm in. All right. Me. Gino's the new Joshua. What do you mean? She bearing Aaron Glenn quote. I did. He said he's going to take us to the promised land. All right. Wait, hold on. That's huge. So wait, I just texted Jerry and we're going to hopefully have him calling at some point in the show as Gino to try to trick memes. That's what he thinks. Memes, you're going to go along with it. Maybe ask for like a signed Jersey, like really lean into it, but then the trick will be on Jerry. This is great. Yeah. This is going to he's going to fall for it. He's going to fall for it big time. I got it. Means you got to fucking sell this. I can't wait to hear his Gino voice. I'm sure it'll be great. Gino's going to be incredible. He's maybe offensive. We don't know. I think it might sound kind of like big Tom. It probably is. Probably be no. Not do April Fools anymore. April Fools is lame. You're lame. What? April Fools is the funniest day in the world. Max, this is actually the best. We're getting the April Fools guy with an April Fools joke. We're reversing. I know, but it's PTSD. It's just reminding me of how much of an idiot I am. You went to the White House. Come on. No Hamas. No Hamas. How did I think of that? I think that was a boy. I forgot you actually went to the White House. Yeah. We did it. Jerry did it. April Fools that got Max to go to the White House. It's great. Okay. How are we doing boys? What? It was pity White House. It was pity White House. It was big time pity White House. I know. That's why. Whatever. You're like the USA women's team. Pity White House. No. You said that. I didn't say that. Actually, I didn't say it. It was a call back to Trump's joke. It's called a callback. You made pot in the White House. You made pot in at the White House. But you got to the Phillies. Yeah. You got to the Phillies. Good job with the Phillies Max. Oh my God. Memes. I'm gonna get a call from a random number. Who is it? I don't know. Let me pick it up. Hello. Hello. Hello. Who's this? I was Gene O'Snick. I was gonna be calling. Oh yeah. Yeah. That's right. Memes. Gene O'snick. Memes. Yeah. You want to do one question with the quarterback? Let's do one quick. Can we do one question with a quarterback? Gene O? Can you tell me? Yeah. Gene. Gene O. Can we do one question with a quarterback? Sorry. We should probably do this on Zoom another time. But can we do one question with a quarterback now that you're calling? Yes. Oh, okay. All right. All right. Guys, we don't have these ready. I shoot. Okay. I got one. Go ahead. PFT. Hey, Gene O. PFT commenter from part of my Take Sports podcast. How did you find out that you were going back to the Jets? Well, A.G. gave me a call and said, let's get this done. It's strange because I played against Coach Glam. I grew up in Miami watching him play. He was actually on the stand when I first played for Jets. And he's a real dude. He's a real dude. He has a calm mouth saying. Yeah. Go ahead. Hank. Hey, hey, Gene producer Hank. Gene O. Gene O. Smith. Hank, part of my Take here. How are you a different jet this time around? Well, I was 25 when I played for the Jets. You get life lessons. You get perspective. And every experience teaches me something. I'm always about learning and I look forward to my new teammates at Glow and Park. We've got a lot of veterans. We've got DeMario. We've got Mika and it's time to change the culture. I'm looking forward to seeing what we can do with Glow and Park. I love it. I love it. Gene O. It's Big Cat here. You just called. What would a successful Jets season look like for you? Well, we're a team. You know, you need big boys up on. You've got to be surrounded with talent. When that happens, the sky's the limit. You know, I'm about winning games. I don't care about statistics. I don't. Statistics don't mean anything to me. I'm just about winning games. I love that. I love that. Oh, memes are die hard Jets fan. He's got a question for you. How you doing, Mr. Smith? Sorry. I'm nervous right now. He's pretty nervous. So you played with Jets legend Nick Mangold. Can you just talk about what he was like as a teammate and what he meant to the locker room and how you plan to bring that pride back to the locker room? Well, you know, as a veteran and I am a veteran, I take care of my body. I am looking forward to bringing a sense of pride. Now, last season, last season for me was a little bit of a letdown, but it is all about growth. You know, a lot of people don't know this, but I had close to 70% completion. You know, the turnovers killed us last season, but I'm just about bringing pride back to that organization. You know, I have a little bit of unfinished business. You know, the past is a past. I live in the here now. I'm excited to be a part of the community, the Jets community, my foundation, seven something heroes. It's going to be part of the part of the community. And I just want to get that old Jets feel in the building, you know, the defense is swarming and just get that old Jets feel. And again, excited to be a part of the community. I'm familiar with the Jets community and to get my foundation seven Sunday heroes back involved in the, in the tri-state area. I love it. I love it. Well, thank you, Gino. Does anyone else have any other questions? I mean, memes would love to come out to, to training camp or something. If I don't know, you're probably not settled in yet. So actually, I was calling to invite you all formally to Florin Park this summer. I want you to see what Coach Musgrave and Coach, Coach Rack has drawn out for us. Maybe you want to run around or two. Oh, wow. You get memes out there. Memes have run around for you? I love it. I love it. I love it. Challenge issued me. Let's go. Well, thank you. I assume Josh, our booker probably set this up. So thank you, Gino. We really appreciate it. And we look forward to coming out. We'll make sure he gets in touch with the Jets and we'll be out there for training camp. Thank you. Just want to remind everybody that they can go to sevensundayheroes.com for, for my organization. We do a lot of work with the community and that will be cool. That's amazing. And I wish that you could see memes. He looks memes right now. It looks like a little kid on Christmas. He's shaking. He's so happy. So this is it's made his day. Thank you, Gino. Thank you, Gino. Let's go check. All right. Thanks, Gino. Oh, he hung up. Gino. Oh my god. That was so bad. I've never laughed harder in the history of this show. Started his big dom and then he became southern. The southern when he was I take care of my body. I didn't care my body. I didn't know what direction he was going with the accent. Oh my god, Jerry, that was amazing. That was so good. Memes, good question. You really put them on his heels on that one. Yeah, he didn't, he didn't answer it. No, I think we all we had scripted questions and he had scripted answers. Yeah. Yeah. Are we telling him? We I think we are right? Yeah, I think he's going to call in. He's probably going to say something like Bing Bong memes and then all right, he's going to zoom in. That's perfect. All right. Send me the zoom. We'll have him. We'll have him zoom in and we're going to surprise. We're going to surprise memes. Gotcha memes. How did Jerry fall for this? I think he spent it. This was his entire probably the last two or three days. Yeah. I mean, to be an actor, you have to have the utmost confidence in yourself and Jerry O'Connell definitely has. He's got a lot of confidence to pull off any role. Yeah. This is like his Robert Downey Jr. and Tropic Thunder. Oh man. This is a great April Fools. Yeah. And the best part about all this is that Max is still thinking like, how are they getting me Max is so nervous. He's still wondering like how is he going to turn around on me? How is he going to turn around and get me? Okay. So now we're having Jerry join us. Oh memes. We got a special guest for you on zoom. What's your special guest? Oh no. He got your memes. Mr. Smith. Mr. Smith. I have a question for you. You are so stupid memes. Come on. Are you as dumb as Max? Max we all. Come on. Yeah. I mean, that's a ricochet at Max. That's memes. You got to be better than that. Come on. Come on. But you sounded just like him. It happens. It happens at the best of us. Fuck. Jerry, that was you did a great job with the voice. What was your inspiration there? Oh, that woman's looking at you. I watched you guys texted me this morning saying, okay, Colin is Geno Smith. I texted you guys. Is that inappropriate? Just because we are different races. And I thought with all this Drusky, Erica Kirk stuff, I thought, yeah, I can do this. I can get away with it. Yeah. Jerry, I just saw you a picture. That was a funny sketch. Yeah. I want to say. Yeah. That was a funny sketch. Check your tech. Can you look at your text right now? You want me to look at my text? Yeah. I just saw you a picture of memes. You should see it. And read it out loud. Give me a second. All right. You got it? Yeah, I got it. What does it say? Oh, fuck. What does it say, Jerry? Jerry, what does it say? It says it's 235 and we're actually pranking you. You fucking asshole. April Fool's, Jerry. We got you. That was so bad, Jerry. You are not Geno Smith at all. That was a double, a double dink. Listen, we wanted, we wanted to hear you try the Geno Smith. Yeah. And that was really our entertainment for the day. So and you know what, Jerry, I've never laughed as hard as I did when you first started talking as Geno Smith. I had to push the microphone. I almost threw up. I was laughing so hard. You were, you were big dumb. You started as big dumb and then you became Southern. And yeah, Jerry. So what happened was we started, we started the show and Max was, Max is very nervous about April Fool's and we were joking and we're like, actually Jerry texted us and threw out some ideas and I read all your ideas and PFT was like, actually, I kind of want to see Jerry try Geno Smith. So then we're like, fuck it. Let's just reverse prank him. Wow. Really good stuff, guys. Really good. You guys are like Jedi's. You're Jedi's with this pranking stuff. Yeah, it was interesting. I couldn't, first of all, good one. You're such an idiot for thinking that that we all believe that. You're such a fucking idiot. You're such an idiot. You're such an idiot, Jerry. It's crazy that you fell for that. It's insane that you fell for that. I'm scaring this poor young lady who's walking down the street. So cold. Max, shut the fuck up. You fell for that last year hook line at Sinkr and I was stuttering and everything. I did have to write out everything I was going to say because I have a slight stammer, you know? And if I start to think about words, I stammer, wait, let me let me find you my notes. I have your all. You don't say. Memes asked you a question about Nick Mangold and you didn't even think about answering the question. Well, I didn't want to get into like serious topics on this thing and say something that was really offensive to somebody, you know? Yeah, we're not Bill Maher. Yeah, right. Hey, I like how now that you guys are on Netflix, still no comments there, but these zooms are fancy now, you know, like fancy HD zooms. It's no more just me like FaceTiming with you guys. Yeah, it's pretty nice. Jerry, I did enjoy your answers. Can you tell us about like getting into characters, Geno Smith? Well, actually, Geno Smith is interesting because he is how do I say this without getting canceled? Oh gosh. Tell me, I tell you what. Yeah, you're not. It's not it can't be worse. Yeah, he's got a very distinct way of speaking. He's from Florida, but he spent time in Seattle. So I think he's just got he's got he's got an interesting cadence. My my big thing was to not stammer Stutter because in the comments, in that old thing where you guys used to show your show in the comments, you saw a lot like I saw I heard immediately he was stuttering and I knew it was Jerry. I heard a stammer. I heard an um and I knew it was Jerry. So I didn't want there to be any ums or anything. Yeah. Yeah. And then the charity that that Geno has, is that a real charity? Yeah, that's that's a real charity. Yeah. Was that the charity where he missed the date on the charity thing and then he got punched? I believe that was about airfare. Someone wasn't reimbursed or something. I don't know maybe. Look, these are all my notes like by the way, you guys really got me. I like woke up this morning and this has been like my job all day. Hank called it. Hank said he was like, I bet you Jerry's been spending the entire day on this. It's good work, Hank. Maybe maybe you should try it sometime. Yeah. Yeah, it's called research. Look at this. Oh, by the way, Hanky, I wanted to say thank you for Sunday Monday show for uh, don't us the tootsies. No problem. Good tootsies. And then Jerry, we just discovered today there's a very good chance that there's going to be maybe a Celtics Knicks or a Celtic Sixers or a Sixers Knicks playoff game on Max's bachelor party. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Yeah. That's going to be so fun. And by the way, sorry I was yelling at you, Max. I'm called dumb and everything to follow for that. I'm sorry to him. Yeah. Um, Max, I can't wait for your virtual bachelor party. I'm literally like I'm saving a little bit of money every day. I'm going to have a little like like nest egg for the party. I'm putting aside a couple bucks every day and I'm just just I'm bringing the Narcan. Oh, crazy lose control. You guys have seen me with the briefcase doing work coming into the studio, all that stuff. Yeah. But by the way, you've got to tell me if there's a camera like in a place, a camera in a room, camera in a cabana, you've got to say because yeah, no cameras, no cameras. I think we played golf and remember I was like speaking inappropriately to you, PFT. Even more inappropriate than me doing a Gino Smith. Sorry, everyone. Wow, you guys really fucking got me. Wow, you got me so good. Man, I really worked on that all morning. It was awesome, Jerry. You crushed it, Jerry. Made me laugh so much. Yeah. Yeah. All right, Jerry, we'll see you in a month. We'll see you in a month. Yeah, can't wait. Oh, I've got I've got wardrobe. I've got all kinds of things. I can't wait. Max, I cannot wait to celebrate you. I cannot wait. I'm excited. I'm excited. You got me memes. Memes the smartest as always. All right, see you, Jerry. See you, Jerry. Bye guys. See you. Oh, that was perfect. Memes also might not be the smartest because when we were waiting to do this, I told memes that we had booked Gino Smith after he had heard us plan out the whole segment and memes got excited about having Gino Smith on the show this afternoon. Yeah, sports podcast. Yeah, we are. We are. All right. Well, let's get I we don't even know where it's going to go in the show because we've we've we've disjointed the whole thing, but let's get back to the show. National sports podcast. Let's rip some things. The owners are meeting in Arizona. They sure are. A lot of sunglasses in the owner's picture, by the way. Well, they finally realized that they have to stare into the sun every year. So they bring I think they was the GM picture. Sorry. The GM picture was all was all sunglass. I think most of the owners went without shades. Yeah. weren't there a couple that were wearing sunglasses? I don't think the owners took a picture today. I don't think the owners that you know, they should make the owners take a picture, though. Yeah, because I actually saw the GM picture and I was like, oh, yeah, there's Matt Ryan, the GM for the Falcons, president of the Falcons. Oh, actually in Cunningham. Yeah, the promotion. But yeah, the picture has been out. It was probably the most. I we have a problem in the NFL. The guys are too good looking. I call this the McVeigh effect. He's the McVeigh tree has made offensive football fantastic in the NFL, but it's also made a bunch of pretty boys who all wear the same shade of blue. And thank god, Mike McCarthy, Big Mike is back because we needed someone like that in old school football guy who forgot to button one of his buttons. But this is what the new NFL is pretty boys. You know what that picture reminds me of open it up again, Max. You know the the like bachelor party of all the dudes at the baseball game? Yeah, they're all leaning over each other. That's what this is right here. Yeah, they're all wearing the same shirt. They all kind of look the same. The one new face that I think is a great addition to the picture is Joe Brady. Yeah, Joe Brady with the fresh fade. I've never been more confident in anything in my life that Joe Brady owned at least seven different Echo Unlimited shirts when he was in high school. He and they're all two sizes too big for him. And he looked awesome. I said in my blog, Joe Brady looks like a guy who the first guy in high school who buys a white Jetta and is going to sell you a shitty bag of weed. He tricks it out. Yeah, he also might have an earring. I looked at it for so long. I think he does. I was like, I think he has an earring. Vrable just absolutely dominating. That's the story of this picture. Like, half way, if you're a Dolphins fan, it's not been good for a long time. It's going to stay not good. I don't want to look too much into these pictures. But yes, sometimes this picture does tell us something. Like, for instance, Todd Bowles looks like he's just eating his way through the off season and wearing a gigantic Denim Moo Moo. But Vrable is just killed half way, killed him, dominated him. Yeah, if you look, you look around. The other story in this picture to me is, is Jim Harbaugh's Band-Aid. Yeah, what happened? Where did he get the gash on his forearm? To me, it looks like it's a cat handling bandage. No, like when you get when you pick up a stray cat and you try to relocate it. Jim Harbaugh spread is twice as long. Like if you look at all the other people's legs, his leg spread is literally twice as wide as everyone else's. No, my theory with Jim Harbaugh is he just happened by a blood bank on the way to the picture. Yeah. And someone was like, Hey, sir, could you give some blood? And he's like, Harbaugh blood. Yes. It could be that. It could also just be he was walking to the picture and he saw a shortcut. Yeah. And the shortcut was like through a through a hedge. Yeah. But it's it's always fun watching all the guys get together awkwardly staring to the sun. Sean McVeigh not there. I actually think Sean McVeigh might be embarrassed to what he's done to the league in terms of the pretty boys. What have I done? Yeah, that's so he's like, I can't even bear it. A lot of tits. What? A lot of tits. Meiko Ryan's nips out hard. Do we it's going to take me a long time to be able to figure out who Mike LaFleur is. Well, no, he looks like a AI LaFleur. His hair is ridiculous. Jimmy Neutron hair next to Matt. Yeah. It's it's pretty boy to the max. I think there's three guys right now that if they sat down next to me, I would not immediately recognize as being a head coach. One would be still one would be Michael Florida. Zach Taylor. I will never recognize as being a head coach. I would probably be like, Oh, hey, nice to see you, Secretary Buttigieg. Yeah. And then who's the other one? Jesse mentor. You probably would mentor. I think no, because he looks so much like Nate Bargassi. Oh, yeah, that I would recognize him. Actually, I appreciate Clint Kubiak just being a clone of his dad. Yeah, because I knew right away that was him. But yeah, the hand looks like he's been hanging out next to that electric voltage machine. Yeah, like he's wasting away a little bit. He's got his security guard back with Robert Salah. Yeah, the shiniest head ever. Max, are we Nick Siriani's? Has he ever three? Is he gaining a little weight? Strong. We've we've all had shirts that are just a little bit too small. Yeah, is that shirt is that shirt too small? Or is it like his he looks strong? Yeah, he looks strong. His stomach. I actually do think he looks weight like I didn't realize how big he was. Yeah, this picture is strong. His stomach got higher. I don't think that's I think that's why the body pregnant. Yeah, core strength. But it's a great picture. He looks he's standing a little bit away from everyone. I don't know what that's about. I think intimidated by why don't they do this for hard knocks? Yeah, just lining everyone up. Yeah, so hard. That was a big news. The other news coming out of the owner's meeting is the hard knocks is going to be the Seattle Seahawks. And then there are they announcing two years in a row? Oh, that's yeah, Patriots are the next year. I thought that was this year. No, they did crazy. Advance. Yeah, it's weird. I don't like that. I don't like it all. Also, the rule used to be if you made the playoff, so you don't have to do hard knocks the next year. And if you have a new coach, so congrats to Mike Rabel, he's not getting fired next year. I guess not. That's weird. The yeah, it is a little weird. That's not like the two years in advance. So it's Seahawks and Patriots. Sean Payton doesn't know how to sit. That's his first day of sitting. I think Sean Payton doesn't care about the about the coach's picture. He was probably sitting there like early in the morning. They built the coach's picture around him. Yeah. Also, John Harbaugh wearing black loafers and white socks is not great for the Joe Biden. Like, did you forget? Did you get dressed in the dark? Hey, grandpa, let's get you out to get you out to the in the crazy picture. And I like coach Harbaugh, but man, it's a tough one to defend. Also, the feet next to his brother, I I'm convinced that Jim Harbaugh knows what size shoe his brother wears. Yeah. And then goes out and buys three sizes too big for himself, knowing that he's going to be sitting next to his brother for the picture. Yeah. So I think that the Hard Knocks two years in advance is a really weird thing considering nobody really cares about Hard Knocks anymore. Yeah. We can't write the first episode. Yeah, first episode, I would prefer that it's done. I would like to see the refs this off season. Actually, this is what they hard knocks. Why not just do a first episode for every team? Yeah, you could do 32 hard knocks. Never do another episode. I'd like to see Hard Knocks the league office like following around Godel. I would like to see Hard Knocks with the referees. That's going to be an interesting story is like the referees have been kind of locked out. Yeah. But so as far as I understand it, the refs kind of want to double dip. So they don't want to be full time. What do you mean? They're getting paid $350,000 and they also can work outside of refereeing. I don't know what's going on with the actual negotiations, but I do know that they're actively hiring replacement refs right now. Right. And they're trying to incorporate something in the rules for next year that would just be like during replacement ref season, if there's a fuck up, we can overrule anything from Sky Judge in New York. I'm just saying like if it is true, I've always just assumed it's like NFL's being cheap. And now this is all a report I got from T-Bob. Hopefully he did his actual research. I trust that he did. But the NFL is being cheap and not paying the rest. But then he's like, no, they're paying $350,000 a year. They want to make them full time. But the refs don't want it because a lot of these refs are getting paid $350,000 a year to ref. And then they also work at a law firm or, you know, and double dip. So we got to figure out the ref thing. I also don't care really, because I'm going to watch even if the refs suck. I think a lot of the rest of 250 K a year is way more than I thought. Me too. A lot of the refs, I think love double dipping because being an NFL referee is a great, great advertisement for their law firm. Yeah. It's like, yeah, I'm I'm I got trialed next week, but it's okay. My lawyer's ad hoc. You look I don't know if that's it's all right. So I just looked AI to yeah, 200,000 to 350,000 per year. That's a lot. Okay. Why do they have to be such a sick job to just now have another job? Just do that. Just do that as your only one. By the way, one last thing about the coach's picture, we had Kevin Stefansky on in the combine and we talked about how I've been trying to get him dressed for this. I missed it this year. So I send him all of the shirts. I texted him on Wednesday, I was like shirts arrived, he's like, Oh, I'm actually already in Arizona on vacation. So the pursuit continues. I did send him I shaved my balls for this shirt. And a couple other shirts. So we're going to we're going to try there will be a year where I get him dressed. I'm sure he'll probably wear that at the draft or something. It's a nice shirt. It's his shirt. I'll find an occasion for it. Gotta wear it. So who is missing from the picture besides McVeigh and Todd Munkin would not have guessed Todd Munkin. Todd Munkin also I think you could take all these guys faces and combine them into one and that's probably exactly what Todd Munkin looks like. Yeah, Todd Munkin, did you see he's got a what he's got like a gold? What did what did a Shador give Todd Munkin that he's got in his in his office? I think Todd Munkin I think she doors trying to maybe pay off Todd Munkin to get the starting job. A La Boo Boo. No, it wasn't a La Boo Boo. Hold on. I'm going to try to find it. Todd Munkin. I think he someone asked him about this. It's always funny to these interviews with the coaches is they're like having breakfast. And that's the big thing. What you just searched. Look, Munkin La Boo Boo. I just mentioned her. She sure Jimmy Haslam, by the way, said that there's a chance that the Deshaun Watson trade can go from a swing and a miss to a home run. Porcelain horse head. Porcelain horse head. You leave it in his bed. Yeah. And Munkin said if Deshaun had come into my office and gave me an elephant, I would put that in there too. So it looks like there's some is it illegal payments? Todd Munkin. They're all trying to bribe him for the world's saddest quarterbacking job. Yeah. He's like, Hey, that also is a gift that he'd no one wants. I asked him, What was the meeting? He said, Well, I really liked it. I got myself one. I said, Well, great. That was it for Wait, so should we got matching horse heads for him and his coach? Yeah, this. Are you talking about a night? Did he get him a chest set? No, porcelain horse head. Yes, like the horse from the Godfather fame. Yeah. Oh, so he should or saying if you don't start me. Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to kill you. The horse is the lunar New Year animal for 2026. Oh, so Chinese Chinese good luck. I so with Deshaun walks and grocery, but I oh, okay, it's a happy New Year Chinese. grocery price tried to you. Yeah, there you go. With Deshaun. He's actually going to start next year, I think. Yeah. And it's kind of weird that Haslam has come out there and been like, yeah, we really right now, if you look at the trade, we really fucked it up. But there's still time. It would be so awkward if Deshaun goes out and is actually like, really good at playing quarterback again. Yeah, I think that would make things very, it would be very strange. Yeah, very strange. Other any other stories from the owner's meeting? No, just that they're they're thinking about rewriting the rules for the the fake refs that might come in. That'll be interesting because basically it'll be like, what's his name, Butterworth? Yeah, Butterworth will be officiating every game all at the same time this year behind the screen. We also did I should say one more Browns thing. They rescinded their proposal to allow teams to trade draft picks five years down the road, which thank God, the Browns are like, Oh, shit, this would only hurt us. Yeah. So good job. And Hank, congratulations, you're going to get your wish. Your owner has said that he wants an 18 game schedule and every team to have an international game. I disagree with the 18 game schedule. Why? Too many games. I also think one more game grow the game. What about growing the game? But it's Mr. Grow the game. It actually sounds like the 18th game will be automatic international. Okay, then then I like that. I just I I don't know if we were talking about in the show if I was reading an article, but the the they're trying to spread out the games too much. Sunday games are gonna get worse. Yeah, we talked about the show. Yeah. Yeah. I that that part scarcity of it. I very much agree with where it's like the more games they add the worse the products going to be somehow. And what seems like an unstoppable force of the NFL could they could they could fuck this. And it's also 18 games is going to lead to 20 games. This is every everything the NFL does when they say, Hey, we're going to do a game on Thanksgiving on the Wednesday before Thanksgiving. They're not just doing that because it's the Wednesday before Thanksgiving. They're testing out to see if they can do games future Wednesday. I mean, 17 games was the biggest no dove all time that they were going to eventually get to 18 games. 17 just is an awkward number to end at 20. That that would probably be another like 10 years in the future. But it will happen. But they're going to try to get it. Yeah. Maybe there's gonna be like no tackling at that point. Well, it'd probably be like the other two games will be flag football games that are integrated with the NFL's new flag football league that they have started. But they they have 18 games is like the start of the conversation for the next CBA from the owner's perspective. It's like, we're not even going to entertain a seven game season or 17 game season that we're going to start at 18. And you have to accept that or else we're going to lock you out. So it's going to happen. There will be 18 games. I don't I don't necessarily mind 18 as opposed to 17. I think they'll probably do something with a preseason game. They should do the universal buy universal buy the week before Christmas. When you have to do all your shopping and everyone's busy and you're like, Hey, maybe there's a Christmas party and you got to you got to be like, Hey, guess what? You know what? And we just don't tell anyone that there's universal buy and we're like, Hey, you know what? This weekend, I'm not going to watch football. It would be it would be great for everyone. And you could also throw some college football playoff games on our dear friend, Mike Florio, kind of dove into it. And I don't think this is fan fiction. He might be onto something. The February 2028 Super Bowl does not have a date. Yeah, to be played on yet. Yeah, which means they're holding it for the 18th game. Yeah. And then once they get that solidified, then they'll announce when the Super Bowl is going to be and that part I'm in for because I have said this before, but as long as football is being played, winner doesn't exist. I know winter sucks, but when football when you have football games, especially playoff games, so the closer we get the football season to March Madness, if they're basically kissing a bridge, yeah, it's great. Like that's what's so great about going from March Madness to the Masters. Yeah, you don't have to think about anything. Right. Masters to NBA and NHL playoffs. It's perfect. And the only other thing that I saw this morning that came out from the NFL meeting was we can scratch one more team off the list of potential opponents for the Seahawks in the opening game. It's not going to be the Chiefs. So Clark Hunt said he doesn't think it's on the table. From a league standpoint, there would be some concern about whether Patrick Mahomes would be ready to go for that game. Oh, we got to make sure. So we have to make sure that the Chiefs have their best starting lineup to open the season because every other team obviously gets the same consideration with having their best players healthy. More Justin Fields, maybe. Maybe we want to start the season with Justin Fields. The unfair against the Seahawks. Seahawks. You have to prepare for that. Yeah. Okay. Before we get to more national sports podcast topics, DraftKings, every March the tournament delivers the unexpected brackets break, upsets happen, nothing goes exactly as planned this year's DraftKings sportsbook is leaning into the chaos with a mystery reward. You'll never see coming. All customers guaranteed rewards every single round, opt in and boom, a single use, mystery promotion, drop straight into your account. What is it? That's the fun part. 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On behalf of Boodhill Casino in Kansas, Waiter tax pass-through may apply in Illinois, 21 and over in most states, Voight in Ontario, restrictions apply, one reward per customer. Rewards vary and expire at the end of the final NCAA basketball game each turnie round when offered. See terms at sportsbook.draftkings.com slash promos for more details. Hank, how did you sleep on Sunday night? Good question. I can check my whoop. Yeah, check your whoop. Let's see how you did. Check your whoop because Coach K didn't sleep at all. Wow. Here's what he said. Real shame. I hope he can rectify that. It's because he was waiting by his phone. Yeah. Call. I come back coach. I'm with coach K. I didn't sleep well either because I was basically up till 2.30 in the morning watching the highlight over and over and over. And they were all so good. Every different angle was perfect. The angle with coach Hurley's mom cussing. It was awesome. It was great. I got a solid seven hours. Have you thought anything else about that game? No way it could happen. I mean, not only should they have gotten a technical at the end, but the referee incident. Well, we're going to talk about that with Coach Hurley. You're wrong. You're wrong. It should not be a case by case basis. If you do this, this is illegal. I can go to HR. I can go to HR. Guys can't snuggle anymore. Like guys can't snuggle. Just a matter. Just because we know each other and we're friends, that still does not make that any less of an HR violation. I was just leaning in to listen. It's illegal and he should have received a technical. We should have got free throws in one of the game. Wait, so Dan Hurley, he was what was the part of the court that he was standing in at the time? What's it called? That'd be the coach's box. The coach's box. So he's in his environment. I think I'll give you an analogy. Sometimes Blake, I'm in my seat. You still touch me. My dog Blake when he feels overwhelmed. I put him in his crate because that's where he wants to go to get away from all the commotion. If I go into his training and he gets mad at me, that's on me for invading his personal space. Hank, whose house is it? Let me try another one for you, Hank. It's my house. Yeah, but Blake, your personal space. Oh, does the ref own the entire gym? Yeah. Do we not? It's his court. He is not core my rules. That's off the court. My core my rules. That's out of bounds. Hank, every single summer, do we not mourn our sweet prince? Harambe. Yeah. That ref jumped into his cage and they killed Harambe. That's what you want to do. You want to kill Hurley. He's just chilling in his coach's box. It was a crazy, crazy, crazy clip. I thought it was AI, honestly. I couldn't believe it. His explanation makes sense, but still I believe in the letter of the law. And like if you make exceptions for this guy and you make exceptions for that guy, then we just won't live in a society anymore. Can you imagine what would have happened if they called it technical and they'd had Duke shoot foul shots? They should have. They would have been like, yeah, why is Danny Hurley doing that? Hank, so yeah, we get into it all of it with Danny Hurley. Hank, did you know that this was the first time in Duke history that they won 35 games back to back years? Did not. It's pretty good. I learned it because I listened to. It was the first time in Duke basketball history. This is AI. The Duke teams won 35 games in consecutive seasons and back to back years. Folks, how greedy are you? Are you really going through a little mint, a lost season or something like that in a year where we won 35 games and hung multiple banners? That's where my guys at the Duke basketball roundup. Yes. On Monday morning, I looked up every single Duke podcast and listened to all the recast multiple banners. Like Jerry doing a Duke basketball podcast, multiple ban. What banner are they talking about? The regular ACC champions, ACC tournament champions, Jimmy V classic, multiple banners, multiple banners. Do you not think that's real? One seat, hang up a banner for the one seat. Look up the Duke basketball round. I believe it just sounded. I believe it. But listen, listen, thinking that it's here. I might be on Jerry watch right now, but history. The Duke teams won 35 games in consecutive seasons and back to back years. Folks, how good are you? You are your paranoid right now, Max. I am, but it does kind of sound like Max or seeing ghosts. Shout out my guys at Duke basketball roundup. Great podcast did subscribe. So appreciate that. They do a great show. It was great show. I said so much fun on Monday. Happy for you. Yeah, not at all, but it's actually been great. And I was talking to Big T about this and he was confused why we were so excited about Duke losing because he said it might be a might be a generational definition of bitter. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, in the dictionary and that's big, your answer big T. He brought up a great point. Don't care, by the way. Yes, don't care. He brought up a great point and he said he thinks that millennials and and above love to celebrate Duke losing. But Gen Z and below, they don't really care when Duke loses. And I said that's probably meaner than us celebrating when Duke loses is not giving a fuck about. Yeah, I think that might be kind of true. The big T sample sizes. It's tough because I don't think he celebrates anything. No, he's like a Jehovah's Witness, not even a birthday. Yeah, I love big T, but he's not the one to go to be like, Are you happy about this? He's just say I'm average. Right. He's not popping champagne. But yeah, man, what a game. He does like Illinois, though. Yeah, I mean, listen, this is going to be an awesome Final Four. Yeah, I'm very excited for this Final Four. It does. I love anyone who's saying that it feels like the championship game is Saturday night is just completely discounting Illinois and Yukon is crazy to me because I do think that any of these four teams can win it. Sure. It does not feel like a consolation game to me whatsoever. Yes, Michigan and Arizona look like the best teams and have the best two best records. But that doesn't mean that Yukon Illinois can't be cutting down the nets on Monday. Yeah, I definitely think it's anybody's game memes is on his bullshit again to replying to people on Twitter. Oh, this one just dropped. Matt Miller was talking about the Geno Smith is this the guy that's going to lead us to the promised land. Matt Miller says is the promised land the number one overall pick in 2027 and memes replies get fucked. Oh, there you go. Now, memes usually it would be like a get fucked buddy. There's no buddy on there. No, yeah, I said back here, I was like, I'm only responding to one guy. And it's him. And it's him. Yeah. And I felt draft scout. But yeah, I think the Final Four is anybody's game for sure. Yeah, it's going to be a great Final Four. And I'm very excited. Hank, do you see Drake Mate shaved his head? Yeah, who's back? Is that a Christ? Okay, that's oh, well, that's a hot sequel to charity. Oh, it's charity. charity with charity. Because sometimes people shave their heads and they're like going through a crisis. Britney Spears. Little sass when he asked Dave for a raise. Yeah, it's for a great cause or it might be for racism. Like, yeah, skinheads. Pirate Simon. Yep. When he when he got a use of downloading pirate porn, offices back in Boston Children's Hospital. Okay, all right. So yeah, the kids shout the kids for the kids. That's nice. That was good job by Hank. No, he just completely yeah. It's over. Is he is he donating the hair? How much? Brady Brady did it back in the day to nice good. Good. Beautiful. Beautiful for the kids. Maybe you want to shave my Do you guys I don't really shave yours? Maybe want to. So do it. Yeah, for the kids. Do you hate the kids? I didn't I don't think me shaving my head can raise I don't know how we raise money for the kids. Oh, I got an idea. What if you shave your head? And then we do a limited edition Hank dog toy that's like $1,000 all to a charity and we put a piece of your hair in the dog toy. So it's real life Hank. You figure out that's logistically possible and then fine give me a piece of tape and a piece of hair dude. Done. We can then get Hank accused for a crime. Would you do it? Sending his DNA would you do it? America? I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think so. You don't like the kids. No, we can also do bald Hank toys. Just no hair. Oh, could call me. Yeah, it already is bald. Look at it. Like this is what this is what Hank would look like if he cared about children. Yeah, I care about my children, not other people's golf. You care about golf. Yeah, exactly. So you need to get a greenskeeper. That's what your Evan scholarship. Yeah. I don't what else we got? Anthony Davis or sorry, Anthony Edwards took a shit in the news because he took his day was playing Anthony Davis playing next year. Yeah, next year. He's gonna be super healthy next year. But Anthony Edwards missed the start of the game because he was taking a shit last night. And then his coach tried to like, use more flowery language to kind of like dismiss it. Yeah, be like, Oh, he was indisposed at the moment. He's like, Yeah, I had to take a shit. And then there's a story I read that Anthony Davis was basically famous in high school for practice being delayed for detention and him having to take a shit. Stefan digs. Yeah, same thing. Shit. I don't really want to talk about the J 90. That thing is weird. Yeah, it's very strange. It doesn't seem I hope he's okay. I hope he's okay too. Because it's like it seems like it's not great. But then people are making it very religious, obviously. I think the real story should just be that AK the Bulls GM is the worst GM in all sports. It should be fired. So to me, it feels like he's going through a tough and has been going through a tough time mentally. Yeah. And this feels like I don't know what happened behind the scenes, but it feels like the last time that you would want to like get rid of a guy, you'd want to help like a good organization would want to help him. That's whatever. That's what you just you just showed your cards right there. Yeah, whatever he's going through, good organization, they would try to be like, Hey, are you okay? Yeah, the Bulls are not a good organization. No. Oh, SGA got called for a pushoff last night. Did you see this? It's breaking news. Breaking moves. Yes. SGA got called for an offensive foul last night against against the Detroit Pistons. I was watching this game and SGA still awesome, obviously great offensive player. But he does push off. And they blew the whistle for like the first time on them. And the crowd in Oklahoma City freaked out. They could not believe that they called him for an offensive foul. And it was it was a pushoff. I don't know if this is a point of emphasis. That's going to be called on them in the playoffs. My guess is probably not the faces of the bench in the crowd. It looks like when Kevin Durant snapped his Achilles. It looks like the crowd in Dallas during John F. Kennedy's parade. Or actually, I should take that back. It's the Gordon Hayward clip when he breaks his ankle and you see all the calves like looking on and putting their heads down. That's what that looked like. Yeah, people just freaking out. They could not believe it. But it was the right call. And I don't know if that's that's something that the refs are going to be calling in the playoffs. If they are, that'll be very interesting to watch. But SGA is very good at that at doing the like delicate little pushoff and getting away with it. Yeah, but they might be calling it on. Also, I think we should become a pro Wimby for MVP podcast. I mean, we are. Well, yeah, officially. But yeah, he's insane. I don't think he's played enough games personally. Damn. He actually has Max because there's a limit. Oh, yeah. Okay. The NBA sets a limit. And if you reach that limit, then you are eligible. And right now he is eligible for the MVP. No, yeah. So wrong. Wrong that he has. All right. Right. Any backup for that? I mean, it's just everyone is all in tears about the fucking you have to play enough games rule. Right. And no one give a fuck about that when when Embiid was going for MVP. But wait, but like that. No, no, no, no, you're not understanding what I'm saying. I'm not making about yourself. No, no, this is like a huge thing of discourse in the NBA right now. Okay. Yes. You guys aren't looking at NBA discourse. If that's if you guys aren't saying that's why I go ahead, go ahead. I really like Wimby for MVP because he has played enough games. So what's your what's your discourse with us, please? Yeah, discourse. Well, because guys are playing are over playing now because they're trying to get to this threshold. And now everyone in the NBA is up in arms being like, this is the worst rule ever. Why do we ever have this MVP rule that everyone has to play this amount of games to be considered blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, when no one gave a fuck about that, because everyone just hates Joe Ellenby. I don't think it's about Joe Ellenby. It's a thousand. I think it's literally the Joe Ellenby rule. No, this rule was made because of the way we play in his MVP season. I don't memorize his fucking stats. Okay. We're trying discourse, dude. That's a relevant stat for the discourse. How we're discoursing the stat was about me taking my four year old son, Chris to NBA games, and I've saved up all year. And he wants to see LeBron James play. And LeBron James comes out in street clothes, flipping him two middle fingers, saying, fuck off, kid, you ain't getting shit tonight. Yeah. And then finally, Adam Silver was like, LeBron, we'd like you to show more respect to the children, play more or else we're taking away your prizes. What year did Joe Ellenby win the MVP? I got it. 66 games. So he was a one. So then he would have been fine. Yeah. 65 is the limit. When he's played 60. Right. But there's eight more games left, maybe nine for him. So I don't know the exact argument that there's an argument to be had. I don't think, I think you're a little confused because Joe Ellenby hit the amount of games that would have, if the rule existed with Joe Ellenby won the MVP, he would have been eligible. If Joe Ellenby did one the MVP. Correct. Yeah. If Joe Ellenby did one the MVP in a year that he played 40 games, your argument would make a lot of sense. Right now, it makes no sense. Someone smarter than me is going to make this argument for me because I'm seeing it a lot and it's pissing me off. Wait for daddy to come in and make the argument for you. What, what is the argument? I don't really know. I'm very confused. All right, shut up. Go to the next thing. Wait, now I'm, now I want to know. Now I want to know, are you, would you be upset if Wimby won the MVP and he played in 68 games this year? Would that upset you? This, this is a good one that I saw. What is this? This is a podcast, Max. This is a good, yeah. Yeah. I was trying to, I was trying to call Rone to try to help you out because Rone can definitely probably decipher. He's, this is Rone could definitely decipher what I'm, what I don't think you're making sense. What is the, what's the argument? Max answer my question. Go on beat should have won MVP. Oh wait, he did. Oh, he did that year. I think Max, I think I'm not about the MVP that Joe and beat one. I think Max's argument boils down to you guys should be angry at Victor Wimby and Yama for not playing that many games because you were mad at Joe and beat several years ago. I'm calling, I'm calling. Let's see if we're still can help. No, he's anti-MB. No, he's no, no. Rasello is a trusted source. He loves him. That's just not true at all. Okay. We got to get to the bottom of this. Oh, Jesus. Everyone. Why does anyone want to talk to us today? No one wants to discuss about the NBA. No one wants to talk to us about Joe and beat winning the MVP four years ago. Geez. What is your argument Max? He doesn't know. They start, they made a rule because of Joel and beat because people were upset that he won the MVP and they didn't think that he scored that he played the 66 games. Yeah. The amount of games he played would be fine under today's rules. So you're just mad that there's a rule that was linked to Joe and beat? I'm confused. I think he wants us to be more upset at Wimby for not playing as many games, despite the fact that he's on pace to play more games than Joel and beat did. Yeah. All right. So this is it. The Joe and beat rule and also remember the 65 game rule first got announced. Everyone was celebrating also using it to shit on him beat. Now all of a sudden people realize the rule sucks and it's hilarious. Okay. People were seething when in beat one MVP and when the 65 game rule got put in place. I think people were seething the Joe and beat one the MVP because Yokech was better. But when the 65 game rule got put in place, a lot of people acted like it was the best idea in the world and that would really show those load management players. The glaring issue with this rule are finally showing and everyone's surprised the players actually get injured while playing a vigorous 81 game where they sprint up and down. Okay. So again, what, but he played 66 games. I think they're mad at the rule. Not at Joe B. This seems like that's where you're confused. I get where you're I think I figured it out. Okay. Max is mad because the rule is kind of silly in that guys actually get hurt. SGA actually got hurt this year. Right. So it's weird to put an arbitrary number on like, Hey, if SGA actually gets hurt and he plays 62 games, but he's the best player, he should still win MVP. I agree with that. Max is just mad that the rule was put in place because of Joe L and B, but it's not taking away Joe L and B's MVP because he played 66 games. It's called he's upset that it's called the Joe L and B rule. That's what it comes down the name of the rule feels insulting to him. Yes. So let's change the name max. Okay, what do we want to call it? Let's talk about something else. No, let's change the name. We can we can do this. This is the discourse right now. We're doing the discourse. We're the number one sports podcast, maybe in the world. I don't know if there's a I'm doing research. I'm reading. We have the ability to influence a new name. Jalen Brown, the Jalen Brown rule. Okay. You want to do that? I don't think he has one. Yeah, you don't want to do that. We should get him MVP first. Yeah. And then we know I think Wimby should win MVP this year. Did no pussies allowed unless you're actually hurt rule. Yeah, prove your prove your injured. Yeah, her injured rule. Yeah, her injured. Yeah. Yeah. If you're hurt, you should play if you're injured. That's okay. We won't hold against you. Everyone has to be designated with a hurt or injured. Her injured but it's spelled like H U E R T E R. Yes, her injured. Yes. Zach, where are you waiting on this? But Jalen Brown hurt and injured. He's hurt and injured. I would say hurt and injured. Right now. Play last night. Here a lot. Killy's 10 90s rumors. Because you have some call that crippling down the stretch. I'm not sure but whoa, Nick Zach is coming out right now. I heard he's got a hairline fracture. I love that can't be good because this is I was just a head joke. Hank is ready for max and memes. I'm not ready for that. I don't give a no you're not ready for Zach. I'll take on that whole booth. Zach is a Zach is a hoop head. Zach, I got a question for you. Yes, sir. The Achilles 10 90s. Is that what Christian McCaffrey had when he missed like basically a full NFL season? Oh, when the walls talked, that'd be correct. Yeah. Same thing. And he had to like fly to Germany. Going global for a fix can't be good. Never good. Never good. Right now would be Nick Celtic second round. Right. You know who's going to be first round? Celtics possibly Sixers. If they win the. There's a lot. There's a lot going on. There's a lot going on. It will be Celtic Sixers on Celtics. That doesn't. There's so much that needs to happen before that. There's seven games left. And the Sixers are game back of the team in front of them. It will be Celtic Sixers. And then it will be. No, no, no. They're a game and a half back of the five. I think I'm going to go there. They're a game and a half back of the six. I think I'm on Hank's side. Yeah, you have that future, right? Well, no, I cashed it out. But have you decided what to do with it? Because remember, you said you were going to take us something else. I'm putting all my mental energy into when beginning the MVP. I know that's what I'm dealing with. Other game back of both. Oh, so you want to apologize to me? Sure. Sorry. Hey, big head, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Will you please accept my apology? I can't believe you got so mad about us saying Wimby should be You guys are talking about Joel and beat again. It literally is the Embiid. It is the Embiid. It doesn't matter. We're going to play enough games where he'll play more than Embiid did. Yeah, I also don't think that's true. I think it is seven games left to the season. I 59 fact check. I would be 66 fact check. I think he has more because he played in the NBA Cup final. Bitch, that doesn't count. But it's a game. It's not a game. That game does not exist. It's bitch. I think it might count for the bitch. He's actually right about it. That game is not Cal PFT. You know, I think it counts for Joel and beat rule. No, I think it might. I think it might for Joe. Now who's getting angry? I think it might for the I'm not getting angry. You are. You're still getting angry. You're the one who said bitch. You're still angry. You're the one who said bitch. You're trying to talk shit about Wimby when some of us put money on Wimby to win the MVP before the season started and are trying to make a lucrative investment happen here, Max. We don't do that on this show. Group stage quarterfinal semi-final count. The NBA Cup final does not count for the Joel and beat rule. Correct. Bitch. I don't know about that. We're just there's been a lot of wrong information. This is where the podcast is at its best where no one knows any rules, but we are aggressively going at it. I think I think I read that because they were in the NBA Cup finals, their schedule get pushed back at all where they have an additional game. No, the game doesn't exist. No, I know that I know that game doesn't exist, but I think they have they might have more games left in their regular season than some other teams do. I mean, well, of course, it's never even, right? But no, a lot of teams are at 75 games right now, including the Spurs. Like the Spurs are at 75, the Thunder at 76, the Pistons are at 75, the Celtics are at 75, the Knicks are at 75. So yeah, I don't think so. I think they might. We've learned nothing. It's good. I mean, listen, when there's not a lot going on, we just we'll just know and do research. Exactly. You're worried about coming in with some very strong opinions. Exactly. You're worried about the Knicks not beating anybody. There's a word where that's true, but I'm not worried about that now. Seems like it should be. They haven't really beaten anybody recently. But you got to believe sometimes I'm okay with being a little bit delusional. I like that. And that's where I'm going to start here. Although we're going to finish strong. Would would would saying out loud that you're okay being a little delusional mean you're not delusional? That didn't help my case whatsoever. Now that I hear you repeat it back. Right. Because the minute you admit you're delusional, it's like, well, actually, you're pretty grounded. Maybe I'm maybe I'm misreading my own delusion. Okay, could be the case. Yeah. Okay, let's do hot seat cool throne. Then we have Danny Hurley on the show. It is brought to you by our friends at State Farm and basketball. The great players don't just go it alone. They have teammates, coaches and a solid support system behind them. 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Hey brother hey you're live on part of my take we called I think we figured it out but we couldn't Max was mad that people were having we're saying Wemby should win the MVP because he's mad because he thinks it's a slight against Embiid who played 66 games when he won the MVP we couldn't figure out why. Why? It's good for us. Yeah but no Ron I think that Max was upset because everybody made fun of Wemby when he won the MVP playing 66 games. Embiid he said Wemby meant to say Embiid. Ron I think Max upset because when Embiid won the MVP playing 66 games people made fun of him but now Wemby is going to win the MVP playing like 67 games and nobody's making fun of him. We all make fun of Wemby if that's what we want to do. That's what I'm talking about that's my guy. All right. But only in the sense of like yes he won the MVP he deserves to win the MVP but also let's make fun of him on top of that. We don't want to besmirch him too much some of us have a lot of money tied up in Wemby MVP futures. I love that I mean the real MVP is Jaylen Brown but that's a whole thank you thank you. Wow hey thank you. Hey St. Thank you. Okay well I think we figured out it was just like Max got so it was essentially like when one of like when your child is having a tantrum and you have to call like my wife will do it sometimes where one of my kids will be having a tantrum show at the FaceTime he'd be like can you please talk to them and talk them down off the ledge that you were the parent we were getting to have Max calm down. Max I mean I get it buddy they're always going to be hating on somebody from Philly. They're always going to have a worse read on somebody from Philly. He's right. They're always going to give us less of the benefit of the doubt so your instincts are right there but you know we can't even be worried about it. Just give it to Jaylen Brown and let us get them in the first round and we'll take care of business. Oh I love it. I love it. All right Max said you're right. Thank you Ron. All right see you. All right it's great. I don't like that he said he wanted to sell things but maybe that's how I should give it to Jaylen Brown. He's not a pussy. Well who do you think should get a pussy. Who do you think should get a huge pussy. Coach of the year award. Wait oh that was great Joe Missoula. You see that. Yeah Joe Missoula said I think it's a stupid award you shouldn't have it. It's about the players and the work the staff puts in it's that simple. I really don't want to be asked or talk about it again. Thanks. I have a question Max have you been looking at the NBA standings basically every day being like please don't have it be the Sixers vs Celtics. Correct. 100% Max follow up questions. I said he's like there's a lot of games left. Yeah that's yeah he's it is head. He's like there's just no way this could happen. It's happening. Max is there a possibility that this game could happen. We're going to have the two seed on your bachelor party. There's a yes it could. It could be like game seven could happen. Wow that'd be a shame. Yeah there's no way it gets the game. That's true if it gets the game seven. Why is Sixers going to win that quickly. That'd be bad. That would be such a shame if that happened on your bachelor party. Oh my god. All right hot seat cool drone Hank. The hot seats Jordan's furniture. Okay. I guess New England. It's a New England New England furniture place. They did a deal like January through March if you bought furniture or anything in the store. It's like a huge you know warehouse size store. If both UConn teams make the championship not even win make the championship everything you bought is free. So as soon as they be on the cool throne hot seat they might have to lose they might be losing money. Yeah but they're not going to lose any money. Why. They always take out insurance on this. I guess it's just a gimmick run the run the good gimmick. Yeah run the rules by me again. Yeah you have to buy something. Anything purchased between I think it's January 20th and like when did March Madness start March 4th. Yeah it's usually March. If you bought it in between that time period and both UConn teams make the championship everything is free. So how does that work is like is this a Massachusetts area store. It's like New England like there's a few in New England. Okay what's there like it's one of those stores that has like malls and what's the crossover percentage of Patriots fans. I'm an Inax theater and Jordan's furniture. What's the crossover of Patriots fans who are also UConn fans. Huge. Is it like the majority. I think Connecticut. I think yeah like Connecticut as a state is like half and half. They've had it so good. Those the UConn fans that are also Boston sports fans have had the best life. I feel like half of the the the the western southern part of Connecticut is like New York's. Yeah. But yeah this is this is a great it's it is mattress Mac remember you used to do that with the Astros. It's a great deal because you just take out an insurance policy and if you sell a shitload of furniture. I'd like to do that if all four Washington sports teams make it to their finals in the same year. I will give away all my money to one person. Okay. In perpetuity. In perpetuity. I never earn another cent in my life. If they are saying like this. Yes. It's not this year. It's just one person would just get every salary I would ever make. Oh let's just go to the finals. If all four in the same calendar year ever make it to the finals and and two of them have to win. What do they have to win. What do they have to do. I think that's fair. In return. Not absolutely nothing. They have to enter. They have to listen apart my yeah. Prove show me one proof of purchase that you have downloaded an episode of part of my take subscribe. I will decide on one person. I'm a great and guess what. Not only will I give you all my salary but then I'm going to match that and give away that amount to charity and one lump some when it happens. How would you do that because I'm going to save money until until then. Got it. So I'm going to give away all my money that I already have to charity and then one person will just take over my my income from that point. I like that. You're welcome America. What a great guy. That's beautiful for the kids. My cool throne is wild. Wild what. The lottery ball numbers on Sunday show. Oh yeah. 73 72 73 72. You can do. That's wild. That is wild. We're also very dumb for not picking up on that in the so stupid would have been great moment. Yeah. Totally ruined by our idiocy. Yep. Happens a lot. Yeah. But wild. Wild. Very wild. Okay. PFT. My hot seat is protein bars. Oh because there's a new product that's a it's debuting in Saudi Arabia right now. It's hookah but it's protein and BCAA's like branch chain amino acids. This is just protein but for it's bro it's my protein idea but it's you smoke it so they have like these big long team. Yeah you have these big lounges that you you go to after you're done working out. You can even have them in the gym and you sit down and you just you chill and you just smoke your protein after you work out which sounds fucking hilarious. I don't know how effective it is. How much protein we talk. How much pro listen this is this is protein per rip. I think this is still in the the nation phase. They're still studying it's it's not even beta yet I don't think but yeah they're rolling them out right now in Riyadh and then Dubai Abu Dhabi and Bahrain. So a doctor claims that inhaled protein enters the bloodstream faster and absorb more efficiently. It's kind of like weed like if you eat a brownie it takes a long time for you to get high but if you smoke it you get high like immediately. Right. This guy's thinking about that except for gains. Huh. Like the gains happen more immediately if you smoke it. Okay. All I'm saying is like keep your eye on this on this technology because it has protein shisha. It has the opportunity to revolutionize bro culture. Yeah I like this. Then my cool throne is going to be Jordan. Did you see what happened? Did you see what happened with Jordan over the weekend. No. She had another chip. She got another ring. What. Yeah Jordan won a ring. She talked a lot of shit to all the haters that called her a gold digger. She said hashtag gold digger got paid and this was a national championship that they won. The cheer for charity. C4C national championship. Jordan Hudson's cheerleading team they won the title. Love that. So good for her. The pictures that she posted were pretty fantastic. They look very accomplished very proud. No pictures of Bill. I don't know if Bill was at this or not. Probably hard at work on the recruiting trail. But yeah if you listen you can call Jordan Hudson a lot of things but you better call her a national champion. I call her winner. Yeah she's a winner. National champion. Yeah. Okay. My hot seat is Tiger Woods because we've got some more details. Yeah and he had some pills loose pills in his pocket. Also had a vicious case of the hiccups which was reported. Hiccups that's not evidence of a crime. As a lawyer or somebody who would like to study for the bar exam at one point they can't arrest you for having the hiccups. You could pass the bar exam. Yes. Yeah. Correct. Which you're gonna do. Which I will do eventually. 100%. But he had the hiccups. He had the hiccups. They said he had a vicious case of the hiccups. Yeah not good. Not good to have. He admitted to doing his medication earlier in the day. Yeah doesn't seem like he was of sound mind and body when driving this car. So he was sweating profusely and his movement was lethargic and slow while he was being interviewed by the police. They found two hydrocodons in his pocket and a lot of people are like why didn't he get rid of those in the time after the crash before the cops showed up. I would say like maybe imagine what he did get rid of in the time in between when he crashed and the cops showed up. Yeah. And he still had those left over. Yeah. Not good. Not good. He should just never drive again. So it feels normal. Yeah it's true. He goes to get away from it all. Yeah. No it's it's bad. It's bad. He's he's got to get it figured out because this is like again someone could easily die and it's really really it's selfish behavior. How crazy would it be if he still plays the Masters. No chance. He's still on the. Yeah. Well yeah because he's still listed and he has a he's opening a golf course next to Augusta that next week. So he'll probably be there. Maybe. How crazy would it be if he plays. I mean Scott Van Pelt told us he's Masters in one place he's going to play forever because the fans are not aggressive. They don't have phones. Everyone reveres them. It's not like going to play at a U.S. Open where people will heckle you. So maybe. Damn. They should just call the parking lot as new course the driving range. Just get some practice in. Try shots that you haven't tried before. Our good friend Kate our colleague Kate and she said why doesn't he he's so rich. Why doesn't he just build a course in his backyard. He just flip his car every day. Like Travis Pastrana. Yeah just go get. Oh Tiger you want to go drive. OK. Go flip your car in the backyard. Don't hurt anyone. Nitro circus. Yeah. Yeah. So I think it'd be kind of crazy if you played and what if you played well. Yeah. How would the announcers talk about it. Insane. Insane. I think they I think they'd immediately jump to like what a what a redemption story this is. Yeah. Oh yeah. For the Tiger fanboys. The Tiger comeback. Insane. Yeah. Let's go. He doesn't even have to win. He has to just he'd have to just make the cut. Yeah. If he makes a cut like this is this the most impressive sports story that we've had in the last 10 years. Yeah. What do you why. Tiger making the cut out of Augusta after getting arrested for DUI seven days before murder. What murder. Remember that clip. It's a great clip. The guys in New York John Gotti murder what murder. You have a clip for me Max. Look at you. You. John Gotti's a good guy. Other hot seat is Mark Cuban because he's got some sellers remorse. He he's kind of been rumored for buying it again. Well he's trying to buy it back. Yeah. Yeah. He basically was like I don't regret selling the team I regret to who I sold it to and he said he made a lot of mistakes in the process. I still don't understand what Mark Cuban thought was going to happen when. Remember when he was announced that he sold the majority stake. He's like but nothing's changing. He said he was going to be kept around for basketball decisions. No you aren't. No one buys a billion dollar organization. They're like yeah you know what let's keep the old guy around who did who is a minority stake owner now. One thing that Mark Cuban is very very good at is keeping his name in the news. Yeah. So when he said that it was like yeah I did sell the team but but please continue to treat me as if I still own the correct and then now he's talking about rebuying the team so that people will continue to talk about Mark Cuban. Yeah. Like I know you guys just figured out that I don't actually still own the team but don't worry because I'm about to buy it again. So if you could just keep talking about me as if I own the team until that point everything will be copacetic. So Mark Cuban back in the news. My cool throne is it's me because I'm on our check our 43 of my fast and I don't feel hungry at all. I just might be a fast guy. Are you going 72. I don't know. I do. I miss food. I'm not hungry. How's your phone battery been fine. 43 hours. What do you think about that memes. Well you're charging it right now. Well yeah. I will say it's kind of it's kind of sick. You get through the first like 14 to 18 hours. You hunger kind of goes away. I need you to just keep track of things over the course of days and weeks using this stuff. Have you had like any lapses and memory. Any sharp tiredness. No I woke up drinking water black coffee. That's it. There's a little I bought some electrolytes on online that you just put into your water. I did that like twice yesterday. That's it. I feel great. I do miss eating because I like eating but I might just be a fast guy. So when you go back to eating back to food life then you're just going to eat like normal. Yeah I'm going to slowly try to I retract what I said last week where I was like I'm just going straight back into regular food people like that will essentially reverse everything you did and make you feel like a garbage human being. So I am going to to I'm going to do it the right way. I'm going to ease myself back in and then like will there be any like permanent effects of the fast on your body. All my cells read you regenerated. Oh good. So it's a new you. Correct. Literally unrecognizable. Correct. It's good for gut health. It's good for what does gut health mean. Don't worry about it. What does the fucking 65 game rule mean. It means how does it apply to Embiid. And there's many seasons that Embiid didn't get to 65. Yeah you know why because he didn't have guts. Yeah exactly. Nor health. You know I'm doing well. Everyone should try it. It's easy. It's actually not that hard. We should actually do a segment where it's just like six degrees of separation from Joel and B. How can we make any story about Joel and B. Zach Yes sir. How's he cool. How's he cool. I would like to say we have we do have to respect gut volumes around here. Yep. How's he this week is going to be people who think it's a good idea to invest in their future monetarily. Did anyone see Warren Buffett talking about stocks plummeting. No. What do you say. I just I just saw a video Warren Buffett being like hey all Americans be prepared 40% drop. What. So I'm wondering like do we rethink. We shouldn't do stocks. We got there's got to be new ways to invest. Yeah stocks done. Protein hookah bars. Bitcoin. Do you think does make you fool the protein sheeshaw when you smoke it you think you get like satiated. I think you just get jacked up. I think I think you just like rip a bong and then you walk away and you're fucking a beast. You look like that Florida Gators fan. No offense but I can't be having this conversation. I don't eat food anymore. Well that actually would then the protein hookah would be perfect for you. Yeah maybe I could do that. Great way for people who fast. I don't know. No. But wait so Zach. So Warren Buffett said the stock market's going to crash. He said 40% which feels like a I know that's not a majority when it comes percentages but it feels like a majority. That's a lot of percent. Feels like it's all the money right. We don't want that percent. A big percent. It also sounds like somebody might be trying to crash the market so that maybe then he could buy more of the market. I just put money in the stock market for the first time in my life last week. Oh yeah. So there's your sign. There's your sign. Yeah. I'm calling my my financial guy. Yep there's a bubble. Max has jumped in. Okay good hot seat. And should we still be is Warren Buffett still in the game that yeah. Oh yeah. He's still the guy even at that age. Oh yeah. Okay. Yeah. That's good to know. Still alive. So you know what he might be still a live guy of the year. Yeah. Right. Like put Warren Buffett is somebody doing a list for the takies. I don't think so. I've got a short list. All right. Put Warren Buffett as a nominee for for still a live guy of the year. I can do this here. Okay. All right. What's your cool. In my cool throne. I was going to get into a little bit when we talked because he dropped another 40 piece last night. But we won't do that because we covered a lot of Wimby. Exactly. Do you think he should be MVP. Right now. Yes. I agree. He's creeping on like breaking basketball territory. Yeah. I agree. And so we'll pivot there and we'll go. Did you guys see Colorado Rockies dropped pizza donuts. Yeah. Yeah. I've never seen that kind of mix mix him for not a fan. You're out on the pizza donut. I think it's too much. Is it too savory or is it just like too out there. I guess I got to know exactly how it's due because like a donut burger makes sense to me because you could like a sweet glazed donut with a hamburger meat makes sense. Tomato sauce on a donut doesn't make sense. No. I disagree with everything that you just said. Okay. Great. Because I don't think there's any sweetness. I don't think there's any sweetness. I think it's just like the a plain donut with like no glaze or anything. But it's just savory. And the crust is doughnut instead of like sweet. All right. I'm willing to try. So pizza is dough. Talk me through what's on this doughnut here. So we got you will go unsweetened. So we got doughnut right base. Then we got garlic butter which gives us that good garlic. That's already we got pepperoni cheese pesto with the drizzle drizzle. I would eat the fuck out of that. So that's not asparagus on top. That's a drizzle. That's a pesto drizzle. Okay. Which okay. That makes me change my mind a little bit. Is it a glazed donut? Like is it sweet or the glaze is said this the glaze is the garlic glaze is the garlic thing in that terms. Yes. The glaze is the garlic wait. So there's no glaze. It's just a regular plain doughnut garlic glaze. I think that's good then. Fine. But that also but but if it's a sweet doughnut and then you put that on there. I think it's bad. Do you agree with me Max? I agree. If it's a sweet doughnut out. You can only be in one lane of doughnut with this pizza like whereas the doughnut burger you can you can make it sweet. See I'm out on that. I think that's that's too much. I don't I don't really like it but I I'm saying like I understand it. I like hey listen I don't even like chocolate covered pretzels because I like to separate my sweet and savory. So you guys are out on the bacon on the sweet doughnut. What are you looking at me like? No chocolate covered pretzels. I like to eat the chocolate then the pretzels then back to the chocolate then back to the pretzels and then it I've said this before but the the hardest thing that I have to go through I know this is going to be a struggle. It's it's at night trying to figure out what I end with savory or sweet. It's fucking it's torture. I think that the savory sweet combination for most doughnuts is something that's mostly meant for people to take pictures of and post online and not actually something that most people enjoy eating. All these all of these ballpark things are exactly that. Yep. Boozy ice cream. Oh actually I'm okay with actually did you guys see Costco the we need to get one of these. Did you guys see I'll get one this weekend. Maybe I'll get one before Friday show. They have a 10 pound giant chocolate bunny that is so big instructions with a hammer. Yeah you have to break it open with a hammer to eat it. They also have a Costco there's not no free ads. They have a bottle of whiskey that's called I got that dog in me. It's hot dog whiskey hot dog flavored whiskey. I was immediately when I saw the bunny I thought that is a barstool after dark stream winning to happen. Yeah. Yeah. Eat the bunny. Put the bunny. Chocolate football was for everyone. That's true. Yeah. That's very true. Have you so I put Max on these last week the chocolate covered gummy bears at Trader Joe's. Amazing. Yeah. They're they're actually fantastic. Those are okay. That's sweet sweet. Yeah. Sweet sweet. Yeah. I can do sweet sweet. Okay. Let's get to our interview with Danny Hurley and then we'll finish. We have we're going to rip some packs and we got guys on chicks before we get to coach Dan Hurley. He's brought to you by Jose Cuervo. When Cuervo enters every moment just gets better. You find yourself at the center of the dance floor. You can't help but stand up and high five those around you at the game. You might hug your neighbor. 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The headbutt with Roger Ayers. What's going on there? It was not it, uh, head hug. Yeah. There you go. I don't know. You ever see reindeer where they kind of like with each other's nose. They kind of my dog does that sometimes. With like the top of his head. Yeah. More of a nuzzle, uh, an affectionate nuzzle. No, with with Roger, see all these refs are different, right? They all got different, uh, thresholds or personalities. Roger's like very playful. I mean, listen, the guy is, he's one of the greatest refs ever. You know, like the guy don't, he don't mess up a lot of calls. You know, when it's, when you're going too far, it'll give you a look and you know, you know, he'll tee your ass, but, but he's playful. He's funny. He messaged with you during the game. You, you bust his chops back. And it was just so like, I would say that there's a lot of coaches that, that he refs that you have a much different type of relationship with Roger than you do with pretty much every other official. He's funny. He's playful. It wasn't like, I almost wanted to either chest bump him or kiss him on the forehead where we hit that shot. It was like more like, like, you know, I was almost expecting Roger to be happy for me, but then I realized, Oh no, this is a ref. Yeah. I was saying that, um, you should consider kissing the ref next time because I don't think they'll tee you up for that. I think they'd just be like, wait, wait, what, what's this? Nobody could be mad at you after the fact either. It's like, Oh, love is love. One on each cheek, like they do in Italy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it was, it was very clear in the moment. It wasn't a premeditated. It was, because I, I was defending you. I said that it looked like he was trying to tell you something and it was so loud that you, most people listen best when they're forehead to forehead. And that's what you were trying to do. You're just leaning in to listen. Yeah. He was coming, listen, he was coming in to say, Hey, listen, there's going to be, you know, 0.3 on the clock or whatever. But again, it's like, it's different with Roger. Roger, this wasn't like the Marquette situation, right? You know, where, you know, this was, this was different because Roger, you know, Roger's just a, he's, he approaches officiating in a way different manner. He diffuses like, you know, with, with humor. Like he's just a man, he's, he's one of the best. Yeah. And I think it also was just the look in your eye. Did you black out? Cause it looked like you blacked out. Well, my jacket, I mean, if you just look at everything that was going on there, it was, I was like the Jim Valvano, the late Jim Valvano, you know, versus Houston only, there was still time left as, but I did start running a little bit. And I never went a game like that. I think the only time I've ever won a game at the buzzer was on like a tip-in putback. Otherwise I either lose at the buzzer or I never went at the buzzer. But yeah, there was definitely a blackout because I didn't even, reporter asked me like right after the game, how we got the ball back. And I couldn't even remember that they turned the ball over. Yeah. You know, like you just so much, uh, you know, hysteria and excitement and your, your play, you're shooting horrible, but you're, you know, like you're one for 17 from three and you're down seven and you're saying to yourself, man, if we could just make a couple shots, we're going to walk these guys down and beat them because you look at the condition that they were in. They looked tired. They were kind of just hanging on. Boozer's eye was all swell, uh, swelled shut. I mean, it, you know, like it was, uh, man, it was just, it was a crazy game. I heard that your, uh, your assistants didn't even tell you how bad the shooting performance was for Yukon. Is that true? You asked them and they, they wouldn't give you a straight line. They were lying to me. I was outright lying to me. Luke Barry was lying to me. That's why I sent, I sent Luke to Boston college today. Yeah. It was, it was crazy. It was an unbelievable game, unbelievable. This is why we love the tournament. I have, I have a theory and you can tell me if this is, is way off, but I actually feel like the most important part of that game was not the end, was not like the last four minutes. It was actually like the last three minutes of the first half because you guys were getting dog walked. And then you had a little stretch where Duke missed. I don't think I scored a bucket for like three minutes. How important is that though, when you're going into the locker room where it's like, Hey, we're down 19, we're down 20, whatever it may be. Can we just cut it to like 11, 12, so that we have something going into halftime where we can be like, Hey guys, we're right there. Yeah. I mean, it was a, I mean, it was a crack show at that point, uh, you know, or, or you could use the other word we were, I mean, and Tarris Reed was like really the only guy that was playing well for us. And he was in foul trouble and he was on the bench with two fouls. So, um, and it was 19. And if that game gets, that game gets to mid twenties, um, or even low twenties, it's going to be, it's going to be tough. But you know, Malachi Smith, uh, you know, a little dude from the Bronx made some plays there and, uh, you know, we're able to get it to 15. And, and, uh, I've been in, I've been in locker rooms in the Ansibley tournament where you got the doom and gloom and, and it's quiet and it's eerie, you know, 22 when we lost in the Mexico state, you know, that locker room was like a dead locker room. Our locker room was, it was a pretty healthy locker room. You know, the guys felt like, uh, you know, we were walking down, we were just going to kind of, you know, wear them down, you know, body blows, possession by possession, make some defensive adjustments, try to get after them a little bit more, turn them over and, uh, and then just, you know, just pray that you just make, finally make some shots. And, you know, we finally made some shots. Yeah. Did you see, um, the video after the game, the live reaction that your mother had in the crowd? Yeah, I saw it. That was an incredible moment. I think. Yeah, I lived it. Yeah. And tell, you know, that's where people, they should stop blaming me and they should blame my mother and my family and my parents and where I grew up and how I grew up and how I was parented. People are, they get very, uh, I trigger people, um, with the, with the way I go about my pursuit of victory and, and, and, and coaching. And then now you see where it comes from, you know, that's my mother. Yeah. Yeah. That's what my father. Yeah. Your, your mom was locked in and it was a great cursing a lot too. Yeah. A lot of cursing. It was a great shot because I think it showed Carlos Boozer and he goes, holy shit. When the ball got stolen and then immediately panned over to your mom and your mom goes, holy fucking shit. When you, when you make the shot, I was like, this is awesome. This is the best 10 second video clip I've seen of, uh, of the stands and I coach, I don't know if you had a chance to send it or to see it. I sent it to you last night. We re recreated that final shot here. Uh, myself, big cat and the rest of the guys on part of my take, we recreated the final sequence. Have you had a chance to look at that yet? No, I haven't viewed it yet. Um, where did you, I DM'd it to you on, uh, on x.com. The everything app. It's all happening on x. It's on our part of my take socials. So you can watch it there as well. Yeah. First take. I took the shot. First take. Big cat took the shot. Um, I was, I think I was caravan. Yeah. I was caravan. Um, deflected it. Who stole it? Uh, that was our guy, Jacob and myself. Yeah. It was Rico. Was Rico. Rico was not involved. We did have, uh, it was pretty mean of us. We had Hank, who is a Duke fan. He played the role of Caden Booser. So that wasn't very nice of us. Um, Zach played Carlos Booser or not not a Cameron Booser. Yeah. Yeah. And memes played John Shire. Yeah. But by the way, another underrated part, because like I've watched every video, I hate Duke so much. And I thank you so much for doing this. Uh, your wife was incredible in the moment too. She had everyone saying get back on the bench. She always is. Yeah. Uh, and she knows nothing. She was like, she was on top of the get on the bench, get on the bench. Yeah. She's a boss. I mean, she's a Jersey boss lady. Uh, and her language is called colorful too. I mean, she was grabbing people around the back of their back of their warm ups. Uh, she doesn't, she doesn't know anything about basketball. You know, like I said, they're on the plane, uh, plane. This is wild. Huh? Three, three out of four years you go into the final four. Did you, did you ever imagine this with your life? And she's like, I didn't even know the final four existed until four years ago. That's great. I saw that, that one interview with you guys and, and she doesn't really understand how good you are at your job. Has she, has she started to figure that out by now? No, no, no, she doesn't. I mean, she, she, uh, her motivational tactics are, are probably like the opposite, you know, like what, like she, like when things are going well, she, uh, she makes me feel worse. You know, she like coming off of the St. John's loss at, at, in the big East tournament, she didn't try to build me up before the NCAA tournament. She was like, very negative and telling me, you know, hey, you're not a very, you're not as good a coach as you think you are. You know, I'm not very confident in you going into the tournament, you know, so. That's good. Keeps you humble. So you never talk basketball with her at home. No, she, she, um, well, I just, she always thought that, uh, a, a, a three-pointer was a three-shooter. So like if somebody would hit a, not a three-point shooter, but a made three was not a three-pointer. It was a three-shooter. Okay. You know? And then just in terms of like, she understands like when you're on offense and you're on defense, but like does not know what an assist is. It's not know what a turnover is. Does not know what a zone defense is. You know, there's, doesn't, I think she knows that you got to have five players. Not if you're Nebraska. Yeah. Does she know, uh, does she know that if you're struggling to advance the ball up the court, you can take a timeout? She, um, she might know that. Yeah. By the way, you, you tried to take a timeout. I was caught. I don't, I don't know if the, if, if, if the fingers touched the, the palm, but they were, that was savvy of you. I actually was in the gambling cave yelling for a timeout. So I was the idiot. It was like, you get the ball back timeout, but I think that that was a savvy move by you because you did enough of the motion that if the shot doesn't go in, all you con fans can basically say, well, we tried to take a timeout and not enough of the motion for it to actually be a timeout. But the, um, you know, the thing that helped us, I think really is the, the best thing for, for you at that point of a game is, is, is obviously a deflection, right? Just some type of deflected pass. Um, and, and the worst thing that could have happened for us was, was if Cambuza just held onto that ball when he was getting trapped initially on the first pass, because most referees at that point, like they, they call a quick foul on that because there's not a lot of time left. So what, what kind of help this was that Sarr took the ball out, who, who, who's not a good free throw shooter. And we were kind of late getting to him, which caused that next pass. Like we couldn't, like we wanted to foul him or big Pat because they were, they're not good free throw shooters. But the fact that he was taken the ball out, got that ball thrown to him so quickly, we tried to foul him. Um, but he's not a good free throw shooter. So he got rid of the ball. But just with every pass that you throw in that situation, you're just, you're playing with fire. That's something's going to get deflected. And, uh, yeah, like the, the building froze when that, when that ball got deflected, you could just feel the, oh, you know what, in the building, it was almost like the murmuring and just the, the like, like help guide that ball in the basket. Yeah. Yeah. It felt like it was worth it. Yeah. One of those shots that was like meant to be the second after win end. You're like, yeah, this was always going to happen. That's perfect March madness. And then you lost, did you lose your lucky pin off your jacket? Oh no. I think Roger took it. Oh, during the headbutt, he picked pocket. The nuzzling, the headhug. Yeah. It was like, like, he took my class ring, um, or whatever. Uh, yeah. The pin means a lot to me because I set up a, I set up a shrine. Uh, who's the guy for major league? Uh, Roger Dorn. No, the one that would sacrifice. Oh, Joe, uh, Pedro was the little thing. Yeah. Yeah. So I have like a little setup like that for myself in the locker room in the pregame. I have all of my essential oils that I like to spray your piss. You piss you like to drink. That's how that's ready at the court. I mean, this is more like my spritzers. My, uh, you know, the lavender, uh, holy water, okay. Birchbees, uh, peppermint halo. Um, I'll gargle quickly. Um, because you got to go say hi to the other coach. I think that's unpleasant. If you don't scope before you go out there and it's, and then I have any little mementos from the season after games we've won. Like if we had like an autism pin or breast cancer pin and we won that game, I'll keep it, you know, like, so I have this shrine that I create. So all I could think of is I need that for my shrine in Indianapolis. And then when my brain gets consumed with something, it, it stays there. Yeah, no way. And so the pin, I would never imagine you're that type of guy. The pin is MIA. Amturly found it though, a trusted soldier. Okay. GA trusted soldier. He found it under the bench. He found the pin and delivered it to me. And now it's in my, my little Michael Jordan carry case that, that I bring to create my shrine. That's good. And then after the game, I saw you were taking good care of your lucky suit. You took that off before any of the festivities. Did you, you took the underwear off too? Because I saw you were in a towel. Yeah, I did. I, because I had to drag an underwear. And I felt inappropriate to go into the press conference, would you say commando or whatever people say? Yeah. Yeah. So I just figured, let me just risk it with the towel and tie it tight and preserve the socks, the underwear and the suit. But yeah, championship experience, you know, just experience in championship locker rooms prepares you to be smart in that moment. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you got to, you, you can't change up anything that you're doing right now. No, I would be a fool. Yeah. I, I got a slightly nerdy basketball question for you and like coaching and how you mentally get these guys ready. So I actually thought one of the biggest moments was the play before the Brelin Mones three, when you run, it was like a double curl for caravan and caravan was one for nine in the game going into that he was 0 for five on three. When you draw that up, because it's great play because it was like perfect yet terraced read being the screeners. They can't leave them. Okay. Like it just, it worked perfectly, but is there any thought in your head like this guy's ice cold? I don't know if we want to draw this play because you need the three there. Or is it like, no, this guy, it doesn't matter. He could shoot 0 for 100. He's going to make this shot. Yeah. You know, listen, at that point, you know, if maybe if, like if solo ball or, or, or, or Brelin Mones were like, you know, we're having a great night shooting it from three, you know, you definitely would, you know, you would go in that direction. But because it was, you know, kind of like a team wide struggle kind of shooting it, you know, Demary, you know, Silas Demary, who was playing, he was playing hurt, who, you know, I think a big thing for us going to Indianapolis is Silas Demary is going to be like the healthiest he's been in a long time for us. So I think that's going to bode well for us in Indy. But, you know, like, you know, AK, you know, caravan, you know, the guy just said such a magical career. And you're looking at the situation and saying yourself, you know, like, I don't have a hot hand I could go to, you know, we, you know, it feels like we need to run something to get a three. We've been kind of exhausting read with post touches and, and, you know, he was pretty gassed at that point of the game. So it's like, you know, we ran, you know, ran something, something we call glow, you know, glow mid, you know, glow mid, mid pin. And, you know, we try to like misdirection it and get a little curl action off the top of the key to kind of get the screeners man helping on that. And, you know, and, and Towers was able to set a great, great screen to get a good look. But, you know, the guys are two time national champion, Big East hardware too. Guys going to play in the NBA for 15 years. You know, he was the guy to go to at the moment. Yeah. In the moment, I think we're all yelling at the TV saying like, what, why is so much time taking off the clock right now? Did you, was that in your thoughts at all? Like, try to get a shot off a little bit quicker? So that next possession, you know, they just, they hadn't switched anything the whole game. And, you know, John did a great job coming out of the time out, just switching everything. So, and we didn't, we didn't handle now by this time of year, you've seen everything. So hopefully, you know, your team is ready to react to anything that we've seen, but they hadn't played at the whole game. So it kind of screwed up the initial action that we were trying to get. We were trying to get Demri downhill or a throwback for a three go back to caravan. But the switching screwed us up. But, you know, thankfully, Demri was able to like, drive it, get to the free throw line. Obviously, you know, missing the first one, you know, the courage to then like make the second one, you know, like, because that building got loud and it got tense. Him making that second free throw, it was huge. And the other thing I noticed in, and you can tell me this is wrong, if this was not a point of emphasis, but like when you're down that much, and you come on the second half, did you tell the guys like, Hey, we got to attack because we got to get them, we got to get to the line as early as possible, because it does feel like when you have a deficit like that, one of the ways to do it is you got to score points when the clock is stopped. And it did feel totally different in the second half, where you guys just kept on trying to attack them, attack them to get those files to get to the point where you're in a bonus early enough that it helps you. Yeah, I mean, we really obviously just tried to throw it, you know, inside as much as we could. And, you know, they had no matchup for terrorists. I mean, no one in this tournament had a matchup for Tarris Reed. I mean, they just read me to list the players, the company that's he's in through four games, production wise, it's like historic level, level stuff. But just we we it was a coaching mistake by me to start the game. I think I just I think we built up their personnel too much to the point where we gave them too much respect. And we were playing defense to defense defensively. They were a team that at times has turned the ball over. And with some of the injury stuff, like we needed to apply more pressure on their offensive end and just be more the aggressor in the game. A lot of times, you know, the officials end up giving calls to the team that is just more assertive, more aggressive. And, you know, we just started the game, I just be in way too, too respectful. We'll get back to coach Dan Hurling a second he's brought to you by American Home Shield from breathtaking buzzer beaters to jaw dropping upsets, tournament seasons full of ups and downs. 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With these guys, we had to match up with Illinois already. So we got to go back to that and try to figure out, anticipate the adjustments they're going to make. And then, yeah, but definitely try to go into indie with some things that you can run to get more threes that you can miss. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. It also is interesting because you guys played Illinois earlier this year, but it's like a totally different game because of their personnel, your personnel. Do you take anything from that? Or are you just like, hey, that was, that feels like that game was played in a different season at this point? Yeah. No, I think you, when you shared a court with the team, you get a sense of their personnel and just what their best attributes are. I mean, just having scrimmaged Michigan State in October, I thought it just, it was helpful for us to start the game, just understand what the level of physicality is when you play against a Spartan. I mean, you go up against a Spartan in your life. It's going to be a hard game, you know? So then I got that Spartan helmet. We did, by the way, we apologize because we had, we had Izzo on the show and we did tip him off to you drinking piss before the game to get you pumped up. I hope you're okay with us giving away secrets like that. I heard it. And because that's he, he, I mean, that's probably the only time, you know, usually after a big win, I act like an ass, you know, like, and I think that's what really bothers people is like, you get a big win, I'll turn to my wife, our crowd, chest bump, you know, wave my arms and, and you know, some people don't like that today. But with that game, if you notice, I just, you know, I just kind of solemnly walk down the handshake line. And because of how much reverence and respect I got for coach, I, I, I, it's the worst I've felt after a great win because, you know, I just love that guy. Yeah, yeah, it sounded like he had a lot of respect for you. And I think he believed us when we said that you drink piss. So he, he actually thinks you might be insane. He might start drinking piss. Yeah, I mean, he should. I saw a boxer that actually does it. It actually helps you hydrate better. I guess it's like recycling, like the water cycle taking place in your own body. It's evaporation. Yeah, the whole thing. Have you, did you, did you think about bringing your brother in as another set of eyes? Yeah, just for the Duke game. Yeah. I mean, that, I mean, listen, that would have been awesome. You know, me and Muzzling or Nuzzling with Nuzzling with the official, my mom cursing up a storm, my wife grabbing people on the bench, yanking them off the court, and then, you know, add Bob into the, into the fold there. Yeah, that, that. Is he, was he proud of you or was he secretly pissed off at you? No, Bob's, Bob's riding with me. I mean, you know, listen, Duke, you know, the Duke and the Hurleys, obviously it's complicated for me now. And obviously, you know, I'm not beloved there. I'm not sure that I ever, you know, ever was, but Duke changed my brother's life. And, you know, but Bob is, I mean, Bob was a thousand with me. And I'm sure, running around, going crazy when we want it. Yeah, because I was saying between, between how, how we saw that game end with the head Nuzzling, which we now know was a sign of ultimate affection. And the Marquette game, like you might need somebody that's a get back coach, like we see in football, whose job is to just like stand behind you, hand on your belt. Like I've got a hold of it, you're not going anywhere without me. And it feels like Bobby would probably be a pretty effective hold back coach. Yeah. And I, I've actually, you know, I'll pick a coach on staff. I actually, Mike Nardi, you know, former Villanova, you know, standout player and assistant coach, I actually said to him, you know, I had half time because it was, there was a foul discrepancy in the first half of our game yesterday. And I said to him at halftime, you like, watch me, you know, like, like, you know, watch me, I can ill afford to get, to have an incident or get thrown out or have another viral situation. So just like stay in my ear, keep me calm. And for the most part, I actually was again, until, until that. The Nuzzling. Have you ever seen the movie Coneheads? Yes. That's like the most intimate thing that they do. Yeah. It is just press foreheads against each other. It's actually how they, how they procreate. I also got to give you credit coach, like, you're such a psycho on the sideline. And we, you know, we, we actually, some people don't like how much we defend you, but I love it. I think it's, it's great, the great part of the tournament and college sports. That was such a crazy clip to watch. And I actually thought it was AI for about 10, for about 30 minutes this morning. I was like, there's just no way he nuzzled. But it turns out he did. Yeah. And we will defend you. Yeah. Like no matter what happened, just know that part of my take is a pro hurley podcast. Pro Nuzzling. Pro Nuzzling, Pro Cuddling. Listen, guys aren't allowed to express their emotions anymore. Apparently it's a bad thing in society. So why don't we, why don't we back off and actually use this as a teachable moment to say more, more men should be in touch with their emotions, like coach early. Yes. And then have the level of control I have. You know, but you're sports guys. I mean, what do you want? You, what do you want? You want, you want, you want intensity? You, you want, you want emotion? You want, you know, competitive fire? Yeah. You want your coaches and your players looking at the game or not, looking at it like it's a battle, like it's war, like it's the zero sum game that it is. I mean, it's killer be killed this time of year or in every game in college basketball, you know, and you know, people that have never played sports, you know, you get all these, these, these folks that comment on sports and you look at them and I size them up when I meet them in person. And it's like, you're not a sports guy. You didn't grow up playing, but you know, this is what we've done in society. You know, like the fact that we're not playing dodgeball in gym class and the, you know, even there should be some type of standardized tests. I agree. What happened to the SAT? Like, we've gone so soft on young people that like, you don't even have to go through like the pressure and stress of like having to prepare for that test, take that test, have to get some type of a number or dodgeball and gym class or like. Yeah. It should be like the SAT. There's, there's the, the math section, there's the English section. And then you got to stand there and we got to whip some wiffle balls at your head and see if you can hit a home run in a backyard. Or if you get a bad score on the math section or the English section, have an opportunity to just like get mad and defend it and explain why your grades should be higher and why it's unfair that you get a bad grade. Yeah. You don't think that this is going to make people tougher and more resilient? Yeah. This is life. Greater fortitude, be prepared to handle the things that come up in life, the ability to compete. You know, have to respond from failure, deal with pressure. Yeah. I saw your clip that was, that went kind of viral the other day and I love the message of like the toughness and just, you know, it's a tough world out there and that's part of your job is, is making sure that your players are equipped for it. And I think that people, when we watch, we see a guy go crazy on the sideline and you could tell me this, but like the amount of time you spend with your guys in the course of a season and we, this is a theme we had with, with coach iso where it's like, Hey, they might yell at you, they might go crazy. But at the end of the day, all the hours that we spend together and the love that they have for you, that's, that's why you can do these moments. That's why you can have these moments where tough love can, can be the message being sent. Yeah. If you do this job right, you know, the, you know, you have the impact of somewhat like a dad has on their son, you know, like you, you have, you know, the impact of a great, an uncle or, or, you know, the, the impact of a coach on your life and the, what they could model for you, what they could instill in you, you know, the, the, the, you know, the discipline, the levels of accountability, you know, the ability to, you know, be a, be a great teammate, be, you know, learn how to communicate with people, you know, just be, learn how to be a part of a team, be able to handle failure, failure success, just everything that you go through together and, you know, everything that you're trying to teach these guys. Cause like, you know, like college is really the last place that these guys are going to learn anything, you know, like once they get done with us and they go to the NBA or they go into the professional world, you know, like the New York Knicks aren't teaching you anything to be an NBA player. You either are, or you're armed. And when you go into the real world, it's, it's, it's the same thing. You better be equipped to succeed and handle everything. And yeah, I mean, you got two responsibilities here. You know, you got to coach like a maniac because you have to win here at a place like Yukon or else it's going to go bad. So, you know, that explains, you know, my approach on game night, why I'm so maniacal, why I'm so relentless, why I coach every possession, why it's life or death to me, because that's what it is on game night. But then you also have that other aspect where you are, you literally become one of the most important person in a young person's life. And, you know, I don't take that responsibility lightly. And you've got not only the Yukon men's team, the Yukon women's team also back in the Final Four. We said this yesterday, I think it's the sixth time in the past 22 years that Yukon has had both teams in the Final Four, which is crazy. Have you had a chance to talk to Gino after the win? Always, you know, Gino is one of the first, first people. He's got a chat with our staff, you know, we're all close with Gino. You know, we run over there and watch practice. And I remember when I first got here, watched their practice, watched our practice. Pretty embarrassing, where we were at compared to them. And they were taller, I think even than us too, which was surprising. But yeah, surprising. But the, yeah, he's a, he's always the first one in their Gino as the man. Gino is super supportive. Our teams are like our besties. They share the training room. They spend a lot of time together. I don't know if the relationship here has always been as good as it is between the women's team, but it is now. Yeah. Yeah. It sounds like, I mean, I know that it used to be hyper competitive, which is probably good for both teams. But now it's like more collaborative, it sounds like, which continues to be a good thing and pretty incredible run. And then the other thing was caravan. So caravan, I don't know if you know this, but he has the opportunity to do something that has not been done since the 1970s, win three championships well in college. I think it was at the two, Larry's, the two Larry's at UCLA, when Larry's did it in 1973. Have you talked to him about that? Cause this is a pretty special thing that he's, you know, he came back after the two titles and he's had his share of ups and downs over the course of the last couple of years, but he finds himself yet again in the position to do that. Yeah. I mean, we talked about it when he was going through the, you know, the pre drafting, you know, and he was really on the fence and, you know, cause he was, he was slated to go somewhere from 25 to 35 in the draft. So he was kind of in a tough, tough spot. Obviously, NIL helps, especially if you could make kind of what you would make if you went in, if you entered the draft now. So it doesn't become this financial thing. And it was like, I think he looked around at the roster that we put together and what we envisioned and said, I think I got a chance to do it, but so yeah, so I want to come back and go and try and do something that's never been done through historical things. And he's come such a long way guys. If you to saw him just as a freshman, just kind of how he presented physically, personality wise, you would never think he'd get to where he is right now. The way he presented was it made me think that game night, you know, his socks would be yellow, you know, like his socks would turn yellow. Yeah. Got his leg. You get one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He didn't have any swag. Now he's got the beard. He's got the fade, you know, a good looking guy like the guy, but like freshman year was like eyebrows, bushy, you know, nose hair, you know, like a pale, you know, like not a got a good haircut. He's come a little wet. Yeah. All right. We got a couple last questions. One was, did you know it was in when Brela Mones released it? I had a week. So if you say you're lying, I, I, I, I've been saying for about a week as, as the tournament was starting, I've never won on a buzzer beater. I'm just saying it just randomly to different people, probably about eight or 10 different people. But when the ball, when they turned it over, I saw Alex throw to him and I saw I was tracking and I had a feeling. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it was the perfect shot. Yeah. And then my last question, Roback question, RHO, BACK.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase, QZips, Polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, pants, everything, Roback.com. You owe me a pair of pants because I came in my pants after the shot. But the real question is what happened to your pants? You had, you had a towel around your waist when you went into the locker room. Did you, did you, did you also? Okay. No, I did not. What happened to your pants? I just kept them in the, in the coaches locker room. So then when they were done with the, with the, with the water celebration, I was able to then put on my sweaty underwear, my swampy dragons. It's cause it's not like they were completely dry. They had just had avoided the, the, the water shower. Yeah. Yeah. Cause that's your lucky underwear. Yeah. So the lucky dragon. So when I actually, I went back in, I put the socks on that were sweaty, the underwear that was sweaty, and then the protected blue suit that again is, I don't know, it's 17 and one right now or 18 and one that suit. Yeah. Yeah. Socks, suits, socks, underwear, and shoes. They're literally 18 and one, I think in the tournament. It's a, yeah, it's, it's 18 and one and the shoes too. The shoes have like no sole left. Like the shoes are, there's nothing basically left on the bottom of them. They're like a ballet slipper. Do you do a, the same pregame meal too? Yeah. And what screwed me up a little bit was good, was a Lent, you know, Friday Lent, no meat. Yeah. You know, so that kind of deal with God, deal with the spiritual side. What, you know, if, so if I had a pork chop, you know, on a Saturday and we won, and you know, the night before a game, I can't have what I was normally having. Lent was kind of, you know, God over my superstitions. Yeah. And then this, this weekend, do you have a place picked out for Mass on Sunday? Well, yeah, I mean, I've got to go on, on Easter. So we'll find a place there. My, my wife went to a Palm Sunday service. We couldn't get there because it was our shoot around time, but she came home and gave, gave me a lucky Palm, which I think another, another person in the church gave her after Mass and said, this is going to be like your, your lucky Palm. She made it into a cross and gave it to you. That's pretty special. Yeah. Yeah. That is. You got to pick out, you got to pick out a good church for Easter Sunday. Yeah. That's going to be important. Yeah. I got to find one. I'm sure they got some good ones in Indianapolis. Yeah. Well, coach, you're the best. We love having you on and best of luck in Indianapolis. If things go well, we'll, we'll, we'll have you back on in a week and a half. And it's just always fun to watch you make sports fun. So we appreciate it so much. And thank you. Thank you for beating Duke. I appreciate it. It was, I barely slept last night. I watched every highlight a thousand times. So I appreciate it. It was a good moment for America. Yeah. You know, like we've been, we've been at each other's throats. Everybody hates each other. There's a lot of, you know, constant bickering, but it was great to see the nation unite around one thing we can all believe in. Yeah. That's, that's Duke losing in the NCAA tournament. And it was the best possible way that it could happen. It was so good. And to have you be the guy that did it. Yeah. It was, it was perfect. So thank you. If you need any podcast recommendations, I listened to all the Duke fan podcasts this morning. So I have them all. I must have put people at a tough spot because obviously a lot of people want to root against Duke because of their, you know, because of what they've been able to do. But then you also have the people that hate you. Yeah. So I just, that two worlds collided yesterday and look what happened for us. It was great. And there was a cinema theater. Yeah. It was perfect. Did you see the Duke student broadcast where they tried to get a technical foul called on your bench for running onto the court? Yeah. Or the people that were calling for a technical foul on me. Like somebody, I, those are people who've never seen a Nuzzel before. Come on. Grow up. All right, coach. Best of luck. All right, boys. That interview with Danny Harrelly was brought to you by what not. We're trying to pull rookie QBs from the GOAT 2024 class, the greatest QB class of all time. Some are saying each of us picked our guy. I've got Drake May and we're just going all in to hit these cards sent to us by sellers on what not the live shopping app. At the end of the month, we're going to be giving away everything we pulled to celebrate the biggest card show on earth, the what not card show, which goes from April 30th to May 3rd. 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Okay, I got my pack open. I'm not even close. All right, here we go. I got mine open. All right, can I, can I go ahead and open Max? Yeah. All right. All right, PFC's up. So am I gonna announce all the cards I'm pulling here? I got mine. Okay, I got here. You want a pen? Billy Sims. Why are you disrespecting the career Billy Sims? These are sick cards played in 60 games. Okay, 42 touchdowns. I don't think we had to do stats for each guy. But Hank was disrespectful. I got Joel and B. How many games did you play in that one here? Football. I got an autographed Edger and Cooper. Oh, autographed Chris Braswell. So the camera. Chris Braswell. I'm, can I just go through it and just tell you if I have two Williams? Oh, I got Charles Tillman, big hat. Oh, Brian Westbrook. There's that's big. Oh, P not pretty cool. Tyvandre Sweat. Austin Reed. Bob greasy. Brock Bowers. Nice. I also got Bob greasy. I got Tebow. Oh, I got Ty Lowe. Oh, you got Calvin Hill. That's very Sanders. That's a sick one. I got an auto Xavier worthy. Okay. I got Chris Johnson. 350. Nice bang. You want this Westbrook? I got Fred Taylor. Whoa, I got an Ozzie Newsom one of five auto. Oh, wait, it's his birthday. Wait, what is this? This says I have to redeem online, but I you're due to receive a chrome rookie autograph variation green geometric parallel of Jane Daniels. No, is April fools? No. I swear, you got Jane Daniels. I think so. That's awesome. You're giving that to me. I'm giving that to you. Thank you big cat. I like that. No, Hank, you want it? You want my Jane Daniels card? Yeah, thank me. Why would you take his Jane Daniels card? I'll give it to you. Thanks Hank. You're welcome. That means a lot. I didn't know I can't believe Hank gave me his autograph Jane Daniels. I did not get a drink. May I got it? I got to Xavier. Wow. That's pretty cool. It's very cool. Yeah. Thanks big cat. Very cool. Yeah, download what not today and get free shipping on your first order. That's W H A T N O T download now to start browsing deals and get involved with what not. Okay, Hank, guys on chicks time. Guys on chicks. One momento. Guys on chicks. AWL here. Actually, should I I don't know if I should read this one. Oh, please. Someone DM'd it to me made me laugh. I don't know if it's true or not. So if it's not true, I apologize. Nine time. Well, doc would pick out in the yak. My girlfriend just informed me that she was finger blasted by Billy Strings before he was famous rattled. Yeah, that's awesome. Made me laugh. I mean, good for her. Lucky girl. He does have amazing. He's a finger picker. That's what he does. Good for just don't do it. The man knows sex. Yeah. Don't try to do anything else. You know, so how does that cover? How does that get brought up? Well, maybe he was like, I like Billy Strings and she's like, tough. Imagine if he was imagine if he was watching Billy Strings in his in his living room and it was like zoomed in on him just ripping a song. Oh, I know those fingers. Yeah, I'd recognize those anywhere. He's probably like, I really like you in that G string. She's like, you know, who else is going to play with G strings? Yeah. Yeah. A. W. L. Here was a lot of platonic guy friends. When guys are talking, was that was that a sound of sympathy for the platonic guy friends? No, or just like a chick that has guy friends. Just probably false. When guys are talking with their platonic girlfriends, why? Why must you always make sexual into innuendos when the topic is not sexual? Nor would there ever be anything sexual between us? Just think in your head so you don't have to end up screenshot the girls group with a gross emoji. You're not they're not platonic. And you're also like, welcome to having guy friends. Yeah, like that. You're not a real girl with guy friends. I'm sorry. But also, if they're making a bunch of sexual innuendos, they probably want to bang. And it's also that's what guys do. Yeah, they're testing the waters. Yeah. And they're around you and they're like, hey, maybe if she laughs at my joke about penises, that means that she wants to see mine. Guys talk like this. That's how we talk. Right, Zach? Some guys talking. Yeah, go guys chatting. Speaking of guys. They're speaking of Zach apologies. Hey guys, I find myself being deeply attracted to Zach. Yeah. How can I fix it? Well, first of all, take a number. Yeah. And get in line. How can you fix this? You can't until you've had them. You need to have them. You're just going to be thinking about them until you do. Zach, what are we doing? We get and come on, let's get out there. Like you're you're you're a good looking dude. That's very nice. You saved me. Okay, I appreciate that. Yeah. Same to you. Is a handsome pod. No, but like, let's get out there. We got any prospects get out there? I'm not really I'm not prospectless. I'd say I'm out there. Okay, good. Yeah, you know, if you're happy, I'm happy. I don't care. Zach, you know how we discussed maybe getting you getting you out of the apartment for like 30, 30 minutes a week. You want me to double down? I go an hour. I'd like to see you slow down. Let's not get crazy. Maybe we're about one day to month. One one day calendar month for the summertime. I can do that for you guys. Start maybe starting April. I'd love to make new friends. I can do that. Okay, one day to month. By the way, the friends we got all fun friends. Remember that. Yeah, I know. Very I've had a lot of people reaching out. No, I know. I know. I know. I know. But I can't I can't take someone that's like cold calling me as a friend. It has to be a natural organic friendship. Yeah, the whole point is it has to be a friend that does not listen to the podcast. I have an eyes I have my eyes on a friend. I'm just nervous about broaching the subject. Does he does he know that you're into him? No. It's like a secret crush. It's easy for me. The guy at the gas station around the corner. I just I want to be like, Hey, dude, can we be friends? Wait, that works at the gas station? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think he speaks English. We'll get through that. I'll tell you what, driving the El Camino in the summer is it's very easy to meet old dads. Yeah. Like they're gonna be coming up to me. Yeah, you'll get a friend. Yeah. Hey, boys love the show. I've been a listener for seven years. You guys are the best. My husband travels for work and only stays at hotels with hot tubs. He's a big hot tub guy. He opted out of going into a hot tub that already had three dudes in it. My question for you guys is how many guys is too many guys in the hot tub? Does it make a difference if you're friends, family or what's what if it's a stranger situation? We'd love to hear your thoughts. Thanks. Go Pat's. Friends unlimited. Everyone get in the tub. Depends how big the hot tub is. Yeah, but you can just see if you're like a passable everyone get in the tub. Fuck it. If you're in one of those tubs, if you're in like a vacation where you walk by the tub, I think you just needed a specific space that you can sit that you feel it out. And I also think three might be too many to join. If it's two guys and they know each other, then you can join. If it's three guys even and they're all friends having conversation, you can slink in as like the random fourth across the way from the room. But if there's like three already random guys that are in there sitting in silence, that to me feels like just keep walking. I don't want to be the fourth random guy. Or if you're like at the four seasons in LA and there's a couple trying to enjoy like a really nice romantic night and it's you, it's me, PFT and Hank, you get in and then you have a big loud argument and try to dunk each other. You start happen. Yeah, you start talking about what type of sporting equipment you would want in your house if you had all the money in the world. We give them a free podcast. Yeah. Now you can also talk about Joellen Beat and drive them out of the hot tub. Can't make the club in the tub. Joellen Beat is probably the other guy that's in the tub. Yeah, getting healthy. Okay. All right. Last one, what's up big cat PFT and Southpaw, Hank with the masters right around the corner. I've had this thought for a while now and just had to get it to you guys. Let's go. Every golf course should have the 18th hole be a short par five for the casual shitty golfer. It gives them the life and hope that they enjoyed the round if they can make it on and to and have an eagle birdie change. So they keep going out to play for the pro tour just adds to the drama of a final group on Sunday that you can be two shots back to leader and have a chance to eagle. I love this. It's a great idea. Your guys thoughts. It's a very, very good idea. Incredible idea. When I designed a golf course, it's going to have this like a 225 yard par five. It would be incredible to have too short. Why? That's no point. But you know what? Short. It's like 400 yards. Yeah. No, no, no, 225. In my entire career playing golf, which has been about like super short. It's been about two years playing golf. Every single time I've asked, is this a par four? What was that? The other person has said two years, like two and a half years. Yeah. Pretty much was what's the issue here? Sorry, continue. He's been playing for a longer or less? He thinks I've been playing for longer. Seriously, two and a half years. As a pro to as a pro only less than a year. Yeah, true. Yeah. They're imputational. True. But you know what I'm saying, Hank? How many times have I asked you, is this a par four? Yeah. And the answer is always yes, it is. I'm always hoping that's a par five. I've never once been right asking, is this a par four or par five? I would like very much for that last hole to be the one that I'm right at. Like, yeah, 430 yard par four, everybody's on in two, for the most part. Or what about like 170 yard par four? Yeah. That would work too. That would work too. Yeah. Everyone drives the green. Yeah. Okay. Good show boys. Numbers. 70 56 21 to three. I'm gonna go for I got injured on the corner of that. I'm 23. Oh, you got injured? Kind of like Joe and B 69. Yeah, he Joe and B does get in six out of guys. Oh, that's why they made me Jacob. Oh, Jacob, we're Jacob. So six seven. He goes, oh, Jacob. That's it. Oh, my God. 81 81 anyone anyone anyone 81 81. Let's do one more. So we picked 81 last time. This one pick anyone last time. All right. 23 same numbers. Last one. 85 85 85. Love you guys. Happy birthday to Hank's brother. Love that. Also happy birthday to Sean Taylor, the best football player, my favorite football player of all time and Hank's brother. Kind of sad that I wish Hank's brother a happy birthday before he did. But that's kind of how it goes. And I asked you to do with wish him a happy birthday. No, I actually had him on my list already. Oh, nice. Yeah. Uh, hi birthday, Hannah, Matoya and Susan Boyle.