Anania Loves Anime

This is a headgum podcast. When you came on my show, one of the comments were like Midwest princess. And I was like, oh, not that. Oh, boop. And I literally like 30 seconds later, I went to go see it again and it was deleted. Yeah. New comment. Midwest royalty. Yeah. And Anaya. What I wanted to tell you was before I started Anaya. What I wanted to tell you was before we actually get into it, I was reading your Wikipedia because every time I go on a podcast, I feel under research. Yeah. I was reading your Wikipedia and I go to personal life. It's three sentences. The first one is he is gay. And period, by the way. Oh yeah. He's pretty important. I see that. I see that for him. Oh my God. That is so funny. What is the first sentence of yours? I don't know. I don't even know if I have a Wikipedia. No? No? Not on there? Someone needs to put you on there. Wow. Chances that you don't. It's just like that. That's all right. I'll be there. Dude, I'm so excited to have you here. Thank you. I'm excited to be here. You have been, I'm a little worried about my friends. Uh-oh. Because you're busy. I am. You've been really busy lately. And it's been, I feel like it's a lot. How are you doing? Right. First of all. Someone yesterday, when I was literally filming yesterday, someone was like, how are you doing spiritually? And I was like, oh, I've been spiritually exhausted for three months now. Oh, I'm here to check. Yeah. But you know, I'm paying my rent. Yeah. New York. Got a new apartment. I do. I just moved into this new apartment about, it's either, what day is it? What day is it? I think it might be two months now. Is it two months? Yeah. What's the address and unit number? Oh, sure. So, what is this? This is 20. 20. Anyway. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Well, I'm so excited for your new apartment. I'm so excited that Gator is going so well. Thank you. And thank you for doing my show. I was thrilled to be on it. We're so versatile. We're going show for show. Me and you. Let's flip flop. Honestly, Caleb, I would like to see it. Yeah? Yeah. I don't know if we would have good sex though. Me and you? Yeah. What makes you say that? Because I obviously was hurtful to hear. I don't know if you're, I don't know if I'm ready. Maybe that's, it's, You don't know if you're ready for our sex. Yeah. I don't know if I'm able to receive or give you what you might need. You might not be. Yeah. That's okay. Based on, based on you saying that. It's fine. Well, I'm also going off of your personal life in Wikipedia. Yeah. And you are gay. I'm gay, yeah. So I don't know how much fun you would have with what I got going on. Yeah. I'm barbie smooth down there. Yeah. Nothing going on. Just straight up non-binary vibes. Yes. You get it. Okay. Okay. I get it. I'm around for it. Are you? You know, I've gotten down with many things. It seems like a threat. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Don't be, don't be so sure. Are we going to have sex? Okay. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Not on camera. Not on this camera. I've been, you name a gender. I've been in there. What are you, what are you after? Can we go back just one second? Go ahead. Name a gender. Name a gender. Name a gender. Name a gender. That's crazy. I'm in there. Is that your gender inclusivity? Is that how it happens? I have, look, when, when the time is right. And when it's fun, I've been a little bit of everywhere. Wow. Now, did I have a lot of fun with, when I was in high school, I was, I was exploring straight. Not for me. This is also on the Wikipedia. Straight was not for me. Yeah. Straight was not for me. But I gave it a good faith effort and I feel that so many people don't. Absolutely. You know, I think that's really beautiful. I think the problem with America is a lot of people aren't inclusive with their hearts, but maybe they're inclusive with their penis. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm, I'm, I'm giving up. I'm giving up. I'm giving up. Yeah. And I'm, I'm, I'm giving up. I'm both. I'm both. I'm community heart. I'm community heart. This heart's been passed around. What are you looking for? Are you single? I'm not. I have a boyfriend. We've been dating for like a year and a half now. How's it going? It's going good, I think. Yeah. So, I mean, this is like my like really serious adult relationship, my first one. So I'm really excited about it. It is kind of crazy to like, um, you kind of have to let go of a lot of baggage to be in a long-term relationship. Yeah. So it's always like a, I'm always working on something, you know what I mean? But it's fun and I love him a lot. I remember when people on Facebook took that very seriously. Oh my God. You know, like the single, it's complicated, dude gauged or married thing. That was fun or poking. You remember when poking meant something? Girl, do I remember poking? Poking. I was poking. I was poking bitches down. I was poking. I was poking bitches down. If you got a poke from me, it meant something. What did it mean? I wouldn't say. It depended. It depended. Like I would put, you know, though it's so crazy is I remember in like, I had me and one other little closeted gay boy in high school, then we were both closeted gay boys out to each other. Oh, that's sweet. It was sweet. Community. Sisterhood. Community. And of course it started with hooking up. Oh. And, okay. But then we'd be like, we'd be like, oh my God, one of the straight guys from school poked us on Facebook. Like what is it me? Like, we were trying to determine like, does that mean he's gay? Like, and it's so nebulous. You never know. The gymnastics you would do in high school to try to find out if another boy was gay. Right. So intense. Oh, good for you. I wish I came out a little earlier, but I kind of, I'm kind of enjoying this, not late in life, but I definitely had my time to sit on it. Yeah. Yeah. What you grew up in Davenport, Iowa. I did. Yeah. Quad Cities. Yes. Come on. We talked about this a little bit. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. How was it? First of all, I'm happy I'm not there anymore. I'll say that much. The other day I got a little homesick and I don't know what it was. Oh, you literally yesterday we were filming and I saw two tractors go by and I was like, oh, I could have had it all. You could have had it all. I could have been working like mid level John Deere and sucking dick in a bathroom. You know what I mean? Yeah. You could have had everything. Just like scratch the itch. You and a pair of overalls up on a tractor. Kind of kind. Kind of kind. I think that's my next birthday shoot. It's eating. And it's giving and I would love to see it. Or I could do like the country girls make do. Yes. Just have my ass out in a mini dress. With a dripping piece of corn in the foreground. Just holding a drill on something that shouldn't be on. Yes. Yeah. I recently did buy a drill for my new apartment pink. So I can be butch. Did you get the pink set? No, I got like a. Oh God, like a real like, I don't even know. Yeah. The lesbian said to get it. So I got it. That's what it is. Right. It's you have to take the lesbians lead on that stuff. Right. Yes. What's making you happy lately? Hmm. What's making you happy in life? By my new apartment, there's a Wendy's. There's a Popeyes. There's a dunking donuts. There's a sonic and a grocery store. Literally. As soon as I walk out the door. I could. Across the street. I could weep. I haven't eaten anything but fried food in two months. Okay. People also, I think they don't. I want people to really understand when, when the way that you're going right now. You've got Gator. You have all your other stuff. You're in this show right now that we're going to talk about. You have so much going on that like genuinely being able to grab a fucking chicken sandwich on the way out the door is like necessary. It actually has been saving my life. It really does. My juxtaposition of what's in my fridge versus what's in my closet is crazy. Yeah. Like I'm pulling like, I have like all these like. Outfits and stuff just in case I got to go or I have to do like a one off shoot or something like that. But in my, in my refrigerator, there's three eggs. Polynesian sauce from Chick-fil-A. You know what I mean? There's like, there's nothing in there that could actually sustain me, but I do look kind. You do. Looks good all the time. Oh my gosh. Oh, don't worry about that. That's okay. There's urine on the floor. Chance, can we clean up the urine? Thank you. Don't be, we like that adds character to the show. Also I was just noticing while you were talking that how well the mic matches your boots and work bow and outfit. Like you know, you all, you have a sixth sense for these things. Thanks. Like a true diva does. I can't wait until I'm styled instead of styling myself though. Yeah. Oh my God. Chance trying to crawl under the cameras. They're going to see this chance. It's my love. Just my love. Get the tendrils. Get the off shoots. Get the tributaries. Yep. Great job, Chance. We appreciate you. Oh, help him Lord. He can't. I love. We're not cutting any of that. We're leaving all of that in. You at one point just kind of quietly, my love. I wasn't expecting all that, but work. Okay, wait, I want to know this. Okay. Davenport, Iowa. Now you live in New York City. I do. Tell me about the in between. I will. It's just so interesting. Cause you're a great interviewer and I like to think I'm a good interviewer and. You're a great interviewer. Thank you. It's hard to like. You will. Yeah. I want to interview you. I know you want to turn it back on me. I do this as well. Fuck. Davenport, New York in between. So after that, well. For college, I went to Emerson College in Boston. I was there for four years. Yep. Then I did a gig in North Carolina for a couple months. Moved back home. Almost myself. And then real. I was joking. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Whoa. I moved to Chicago. I was a lesbian in Chicago. Yeah. And then I moved to New York. I love that. Yeah. When you were at Emerson, Emerson, I know you studied performance, but then you also got a minor in peace and. Yes. Peace and social justice. Peace and social justice. I don't have a fucking Wikipedia and you found that out. Baby, you think we're playing around over here? I live. I live for that. We take this very seriously. Work. How did you decide on that? And also what does that look like? I've never heard of that. Yeah. I was always pretty woke, but you have to remember I'm from Iowa. Yes. So I think during the 2020 riots with Black Lives Matter really woke me up. I was like, okay, I could be doing something about this. And this is also when I started making content. And when I first started making content, it was just political. Like I was just weighing in on like things like people should care about and sharing mutual aid funds and all that kind of stuff. So I decided to just go in that direction. My peace and social justice minor really helps with like knowing what to do in terms of protest, advocacy, and research with like any kind of political thing, I guess. Like I got the minor because I never wanted to be in a position where I didn't know what to do and I could help other people figure out what to do as well. Yeah. So that's basically what I wanted out of it. Yeah. And it was too hard for me to do a double major. I was stuck with the minor. Yeah. So the gig in North Carolina, what was that? I was doing a hunchback at Notre Dame and wedding singer. Oh my God. Fun. Like Summer Stock or something? Yeah. Summer Stock. That's so fun. It was so much fun. And then we did a hunchback with an actual deaf actor and he had like a shadow that was singing the songs while he was signing. Oh wow. So kind. That's one of my favorite shows I've ever been in. That fucking rocks. Yeah. So I did that and then went back home for a little bit. And then what was, was the plan to go home and just like hold yourself over until you could go to New York? Yeah. Well, I thought, I thought I was going to move to New York one year sooner than I did. That's incredible. I thought I was going to move to New York one year sooner than I did. I just didn't have enough money. Yeah. Like it is impossible to move here unless you have X amount in your savings account. I just didn't. I just didn't. I was like, what do you mean I need to pay over $1,000 for one room every month. Yeah. I just wasn't there. And the months keep coming. And they keep coming. It never stops. More than one month. Yeah. I was like, oh God no. It's the first of the month every week somehow. Right. So I literally went back home for maybe, this is maybe two months. Yeah. Couldn't do it anymore. And then I was like, I know I could afford Chicago. No shade. And I moved to Chicago. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. You moved to Chicago after school too. After college. Yeah. Chicago was where Chance and I both moved after college to do improv and stuff. Where'd you live? I lived in Logan Square. Nice. I loved Logan Square. I was in Lakeview. Oh, gay. Gay. And a lot of the theaters are close to there. So it was like easy. Oh sure. Like the improv theaters were over there and stuff. I always wish I was closer to Boys Town because every time I had a drag gig it was like a 30 minute drive. Exactly correct. Yeah. Yeah. But Logan's my cooler. I loved Logan Square. I miss it all the time. I miss Chicago all the time. The Chicago Queer scene is so fun. It's so, and it's just like, I feel like they get it in a way that New York definitely has gotten. It's just like not as, the word coming to my mind is violent. It's like not as, I don't know. Not as much contention with other queer people in Chicago. It's just like we're rooting for each other more. Yeah. I figure. And I'm so happy. I started actually performing in drag in Chicago. Wow. Yeah. I felt so liberated to do so. It was crazy. Do you remember your first ever drag show? Yeah. It was Roscoe's. They have an open stage night every Tuesday. And that's when I did. I did Warning by Fantasia for no reason. I don't know why. Let's go. I always thought my first drag song would be Only Girl in the World by Rihanna. Yes, of course. But then I was like, well, what if I didn't do that? For whatever the fuck reason was. And I don't know. It was probably the worst I've ever done in drag. But honestly, some of the most fun. So you have to, you just have to start. Yeah. I've had the pleasure because of being in Chicago, watching so many drag queens. Yeah. Get good at it. Your friend starts and the wig is horrible and the fit is bad and the song is not. But then they learn their makeup and their style and I've gotten to watch so many queens figure out their thing. Yes. It's like watching someone get good at stand up. It's so beautiful. Absolutely. Yeah. It's so fun. So you're in Chicago. And how long you're in Chicago? I was in Chicago just for a year. Yeah. And then what took you to New York? I finally saved up enough money. This is when I was doing pretty well on social media too. So I was like, I was making enough money to move to New York. And then I moved in with my best friend, Cedric. We went to school together. We went to college together. Yeah. And I moved to Flatbush. Of course. As we all do. As we all do. What, um, you and I are from very similar places. Yes. Like, Saltine, Iowa, small town, Missouri. I moved to Chicago. You moved originally to Boston. Right. What was like the, oh, go ahead, baby. When you came on my show, one of the comments were like Midwest princess. And I was like, oh, not that. Oh, boop. I literally, like 30 seconds later, I went to go see it again and it was deleted. Yeah. I was like, yes. New comment. Midwest royalty. Yeah. I was like, I live, I live. Oh, that's so funny. It was everything. What was the, uh, what was the biggest, like, how was that transition for you moving from small town, Iowa to Boston? There was a culture shock for sure. I mean, and I was still straight at the time. I was still a straight man at the time. Thank you for your service. No, thank you. Yeah. It was just a lot. Like I was, I was constantly like surrounded by queer people in a way that I have never in my life before. Yeah. Like I think there was some kind of pull at my school and more than 50% of, I don't know what the percentage is, but we were gay. Everybody was gay. Yeah, I can. Everybody was gay. Yeah. And I was like, this is crazy. I didn't even know this. And I just picked the school. You're like, this is so crazy. Cause I'm straight. How did I end up here? I was like, no, this can't be right. But I guess if I have to, then I think of home. Yeah. Um, so I was like, this isn't going to last long. And I literally started hooking up with guys, maybe the next year, like the next beginning of sophomore year. I was still in the closet. I didn't come out until the pandemic. Of course. Yeah. That was how it was supposed to be. And then it was the pronoun pipeline from there. I know the pronouns start coming and they don't stop coming. They don't stop coming. One thing about the pronouns. Ah, once they come, they don't stop coming. I've seen it. I've seen it a million times. Yeah, you've been in them. I've seen the pronouns. I've been in there. I've been up close for the pronoun journey. That's crazy. That's crazy. Okay. So then, okay, you moved to New York. What is the show you're in right now? Tell us about the show. Oh, I'm in an off-Broadway production called Saturday Church. Yeah. It's an adaptation from a movie from 2017. Yeah. You're singing in the show. Oh, we're singing down in the show. Yeah. I'm having the time of my life. It's awesome. Why should people come and see it? What's the draw? What's the thing? And bear with me. Stay with me. Gay kid, gay black kids. Like, ooh, I sing pretty. Let me sing in the choir. The aunt's like, no, you're gay and you're in church. You can't be gay in church. He's like, but I want to and the mom's like too busy because the gay kids dad just died. Oh my God. I'm bastardizing this real bad. The gay kids dad just died and the mom's like, oh, I'm going to cope with working all the time. So then the gay kids like, what? I have no community. So then he goes to a place called Saturday Church. Gay kids, trans people. Going with trans people in the second go around. Yeah. And they're like, hey, come. You can be gay here. Yeah. And then he gets in a fight with his boyfriend. The aunt finds out he has a boyfriend. The pastor's like, don't be gay. He runs away. He comes back and then there's a ball. They need to. The social media for your show needs to clip just that minute. Gay kid doesn't want to church this can't be gay at church, but sings at the other place. Just clipping that down and putting it out is. Honestly, I think that's pretty good. I think I've got all the, I didn't spoil. I guess I did. No, you know, the good stuff. I think people should just come see it because it's like, it's actually really important for where we are politically right now in our country. I, I think it shows. The queer black experience in a way that hasn't been done before, like these things are like the things he's are, he's going through are very real. Like they're not like absorbently traumatic. You know what I mean? Like there's like some things he goes through that are traumatic, but at the end of the day, it's like through his community and through like dealing with grief and acceptance and love and all that stuff. He figures out who he is and who he can be and his family supports him at the end of it. It's a very, it's a, it's a feel good, which I really, really like. Yeah. Happy ending. Happy ending. Yeah. We don't get those very often. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. It's nice to see them on stage and screen. It's rare. I want to ask you so many questions. You can ask me a question. How do, do the people know you're a double awareness product? Oh yeah. This is, this is, this is, this is how it's going. It's great. I'm finished. Oh my God. Are you really? I wrapped. Yeah. Wow. How long was your shooting schedule? I was maybe on it for, I think I was, I think I was booked for 23 days and I ended up working for like, I don't know, 16 or 17. Okay. Scheduling wise, it worked out that way. Nice. Um, yeah, it was great. It was so much fun. That's amazing. It's funny. By the time this comes out, I will have already done it, but I'm doing Seth Meyers this week. Okay. And I'm sure they'll want to talk about that. And I'm like, I'm like wondering what I'll say because it was just so lovely. Like it's like, there's, there's really nothing that interesting and being like, oh, it was a dream come true. Everything I expected. Everyone was the nicest I've ever worked with. Was there a rosebud thorn of it? Um, I mean, the whole thing was just genuinely lovely. There really wasn't a downside. It was like, we were shooting on a soundstage. That's awesome. So whether it wasn't an issue, we didn't like, you know, when you're on location, you have your trailer on the fucking side of the road or whatever. We're in like a gorgeous soundstage like studio building with like green rooms here in New York. And, um, yeah, it was just like a beautiful, fun experience. That's amazing. Good for you. Yeah. I'm so excited to see it. Yeah. I can't wait for it to come out. I'm very excited. And my, yeah, my character in it is great. And I hope I am. I hope that all the scenes I shot get into the final film. That'd be great for me. Yeah. Yeah. But you know, they don't have to. So, um, yeah, we'll just see, but I loved it. That's amazing. So fun. What? How many movies is this now? This year? Fourth? Total? Uh, total, I guess I, this year I filmed three about to film a fourth. Wow. Total? How many movies have I been in? I used to be funny. I used to be funny, Jurassic World. Is that it on movies? Sweetheart's the biggest one in my, yeah, Sweetheart's duh. Um, so yeah, I guess like six or seven total. Okay, it works. It's going now. Good for you. It's going now. That's awesome. There were many years where it was not going. Amen. You're just begging. You're trying to make the case all the time. And it's like, I mean, the particular thing for me is like when they wanted somebody fat, they wanted like a, an old gruff, like masculine construction worker guy. And then when they wanted somebody gay, they wanted like a thin white twink. And so it's just like, I never feel, I never felt when I was starting out like anything made any sense for me ever. And so just like, I mean, we all have our versions of this, right? Of like trying to convince someone that I have a place in this. Absolutely. And then it starts going and you're like, ooh, they figured it out. Yeah. They figured it out. I'm in that phase right now. I feel like where I'm like so close, like I can feel like I could break through at any moment. Yeah. And I'm going to. And you are going to. Well, somebody, somebody asked you recently where you want to be in five years and you said happy rich and a Tony winner, right? Yeah. Yeah. Is that the goal still? I think so. I always thought that I'd have an E got by 30. So I'm making good from a crowd. How old are you? 25. You got time. I got time. Five years to get those. One a year and one for Buffer. I think that's pretty good. Yeah. One year off. Right. One year off in there. Right. I can go to. One a year and then one year off. One year off by Arta and just chill out for a year after I get my Oscar. Yeah. Chillin' out in PV. Yeah. That's for sure. That's where I'm at. That's where all the Midwestern gay guys go to Vague Snowbird. All the older gay guys in Missouri are snowboarding in PV. I changed my mind. I want to go to Cherry Grove. Yeah. There we go. Make it happen. I want to be free. What's like your dream like bucket list like travel destination that you haven't been? Oh my God. Good question. I think I have a list. My friends over there. On the top of my head I know I want to go to Tokyo. Really bad. I've been to Paris. I've been to London. I want to go to. Oh, Venice. I want to figure out what's going on with those aqueducts. Yeah. Is that what it's called? Canals. Canals, right? Are they canals? Yeah. I want to know why the buildings are in water. Yeah. And why are they, frankly? I'm sure they have the same deal. I feel like I just need to dip my toe in that water. Yeah. I think it's because they have these solidified stuff. Sure. They're so old. But like what's the foundation of the buildings? The buildings. Right. Yeah. That scares me to think about. Yeah. All those buildings, all those houses that were built on stilts on the beach in North Carolina now. Yes. Are like getting taken out to sea. That's kind of interesting. That's what it feels like to me. Like that feels like the next step. Yeah. Is that they just go out there. Venetians, weigh in. Venetians, let us know what your buildings are on. Are they called Venetians? Venetians. People from Venice? Yes. Venetians. And I've got it here. These lagoons provided a natural defensive barrier against invaders. Lagoon. I hate that. Like the Middle Ages. Yeah. But what are the buildings on, Chance? What are they on? They're on, it's on a lagoon and they're through canals and they're on stilts. They're on stilts. Are you kidding me? Wow. That's crazy. I don't understand architecture one bit. It just feels like that's a lot of faith in a couple of sticks. Especially old timey. Back then. Like you imagine when they built like the San Frans, like the Golden Gate Bridge. Oh my God. How trusting you had to be to be like, I'm terrified of bridges. For sure. Do you have any phobias? Yeah, but they're all politically incorrect. Trance! Yeah, there's that and then. Heights can get to me. Okay. Heights can get to me, not always. But I can get scared of a height. Is it that you're scared you're going to fall? Like what is it about the height? I like to have control. Sure. In general. I'm with you on that. And I don't have control when I'm up high. Right. Because the height has the control. Well you obviously have control in that moment because you're still here. Yeah, I mean that's a nice way to look at it. It just doesn't feel that way. I feel powerless when I'm high. You know? Yeah. When I'm up there. Yeah. Well, but anyway, what are your phobias? You have any? Snakes. Wow. Tri-pop phobia, like the little clusters of small holes. I have some friends with that. Yeah. Oh! And I just said it. I forgot. Snakes, tri-pop phobia. Bridges. Bridges of course. Yeah, I'm scared of bridges. My mom has a, maybe she got over it. She had a few of her bridges at one point. I haven't checked in recently. I don't want to speak ill of her if she's cool with bridges now. Right. She's allowed to grow. Can you go over bridges? Like what is your- Yeah, absolutely. I have to. I mean I grew up off the Arsenele Bridge. She didn't have it for it. So I had to. But it's just like sometimes, maybe it's because I'm catastrophizing maybe 80% of the time. It's just like there's no way you can save yourself if a bridge were to collapse and you're on it. Yeah. You know. It's over. Like those kind of things where you can't find a way out kind of stresses me out a lot. It's big over. If you're in the middle of a bridge and it goes down, that's the end for you. It's like you can't jump to the other side. There's nothing. Yeah. You're clanging around. It's like too scary. Oh my God. But it would never, yeah. No, it's not our story. It's not gonna happen. It's not our truth. Yeah. Not our story. Yeah. Okay. Now I know what you have phobias of. Right. And if you look under your chair, you'll find six snakes. There are trans snakes in the studio. Yes. There are transsexual snakes. Well, that'd be con. That's just Brooklyn. Bushwick, you've been called out. I'm gonna ask you this question. Okay. I'm gonna be so honest with me. If you for the rest of your life could only hear two albums. And I mean, I don't mean, I'm talking like when you're in the grocery store, when you're in an Uber, when you're watching a movie, the only music you hear for the rest of your life has to come from two albums, cannot be a greatest hits album. What two albums are you picking? What do you mean by greatest hits? It can't be a greatest hits album. It like can't be like one of the compilation. Gotcha. It has to be two albums that are like technical albums. I mean, usually just to get you started, I'll usually say Miss Education of Lauren Hill. Oh, Tate. And Fly By The Chicks. Oh, work. Two incredible albums. Oh my God. Okay. I think I'm gonna have to go, I think I'm gonna have to go and I'm thinking like the rest of my life. I'm gonna say Brand New Eyes Paramore. Wow. And I'm torn between B-Day and Cowboy Carter. Wait, rest of my life. B-Day, Cowboy, I'm gonna say Cowboy Carter. Really? I was gonna go B-Day. I love, B-Day is my favorite album, but I think like where I'm at as a 25 year old, like Cowboy Carter really made a lot of sense to me. Like I felt connected to that story. So I'm thinking about for the rest of my life, I think it's only gonna, I think Cowboy Carter is gonna age much better than B-Day did in 50 years. You know what I mean? Tell me about Paramore. What's your connection to Paramore? Well, first of all, every black person you know likes Paramore. I know that. Whether they know it or not. My sister was the one who got me into it really, because she used to listen to it a lot growing up. And my sisters and I were 10 years apart. I have a half sister who's, I think, I'm years older than me and I have a younger brother who's three years younger than me. With my middle sister, she's 10 years older. She left the house when I was like, what, nine for college or something like that? But she left all of her CDs and stuff. So I was listening to Wicked, Paramore. I was reading the Twilight books, all of these things at the fresh age of nine. So I remember listening to the Paramore stuff and I was like, this is loud. For sure. Whatever the fuck this is, whatever. And I put it down for literally 10 years and as soon as I got to college, I was like, I know this band and I know they're good and I know Ain't It Fun and Still Into You, but what else do they got? Yeah. Blew my mind. Everything. Absolutely blew my mind. So, yes, so black people love Paramore. Black people love Paramore. This is a constant in my life. All my black friends love Paramore. And I love Paramore. Do you, what is that, is it because Hayley Williams came up in the church as an incredible vocalist or like what is the connection? Well, I've been theorizing what this might mean. I think it's kind of why black people love anime too. It's like there's a certain level of, I'm so gassy. It's the rebel. It's the rebel. There's a certain level of like catharsis in the music, I guess. It feels good to have that kind of like a mixture of the BPM, the vocals, the message, all that comes together and it makes like a really powerful message, at least for me. Because I'm not every black person you know. Okay. You believe it or not? I hadn't thought about that. Yeah, that makes sense. And I say it's the same as anime because when I watch, especially like a shonen action anime, it's kind of the same thing. It's like the message, the tone, the animation, the characters all come together for something that's cathartic in a way. I think that might be why, I don't know. You kind of just really made me want to watch anime because I'm not an anime person. Are you not? I haven't really watched anime. Have you ever watched an anime? Can you like think of one that you might have? What's a really popular anime? My favorite one is Naruto and it's probably the most popular. Never seen it. Okay. That's crazy. You've seen Dragon Ball Z a little, right? Oh sure, is that the anime? Yeah. In Pokemon maybe? Oh yeah, okay. I've seen these when I was a kid. Yeah. But those aren't, I feel like when I think of anime, what are, like, I feel like that's not what I think of as anime. Why do I think that? I'm just wrong. Because it was, I guess it was given to like Western kids as like a children's show. Yeah, I thought maybe there was like more, I thought there was maybe like deeper anime that people were into as adults. When people say they're into anime, are they watching Dragon Ball Z? Is that what they mean? They can, yeah. Okay, cool. It's like, for like some of my favorite anime are number six, Naruto, Fumata, Alchemist, Brotherhood, I would say Given, Raced, Death Parade. All of these are like, they have really adult themes in most of these anime. Is Sailor Moon anime? It is. I know about Sailor Moon because so many queer people dress as that. She's pretty iconic too. Yeah. And I think there's a gay girl in the show. There's a gay girl. I'll take, I'll, I'll tell you. Some, we're gonna dub that over in the edit. Are you just saying it perfectly with this look? And then it just says it. It's not AI, it's just good editing. It's a dub. Anime, okay, maybe I need to tap into anime. I think you should. Yeah. I think you should. I mean, if you ever, I have a Google doc of anime recommendations. Legitimately, please send my way. We'll do it. What are your favorite musicals of all time? Good question. Oh, Caleb! I knew you'd be excited about that. Oh! I feel like Jill Scott and Why Did That Get Married? And she goes, oh! God, that movie is horrible for her. Oh yeah, it's been, I would hate to be mean to hell like that. My favorite musicals, Next to Normal, The Color Purple, Safe. I like this musical called Title of Show. There's a pretty racially questionable moment in it, but I think we can get past that. Okay. Seems like it's probably not up to me to decide, so I'll take your word for it. It's just a matter of perspective. Yeah, okay. Sure. I really like falsettos. And then like, you know, like the easy ones like Wicked, Wrench, Chicago. Is falsettos the name of a show? Yeah, okay. I didn't know if you meant like the concept of falsettos or if there's a show called falsettos. No, it's a show called falsettos. I didn't know that. I'm so sorry. I love to learn. I'm impressed. I would see falsettos. Do you want to go see falsettos? Is it on right now? No, it's not. I was like, yes, I'll go with you. Do you think you're musicals? Are you musical person? Do you have favorite musicals? No. Okay. What's ones do I like? Okay. Chance, you know what ones I like. Legally blonde. Ah, love legally blonde. I guess I liked that. I don't like when people, when the emotion gets really big and all they can do is sing. That kind of bothers me. So should I fucking fuck myself? I like seeing my friends. I want you to know that's my job. I like seeing my friends in anything. I want to come to your show. I went to All Chances. I don't really like when people make jokes on a microphone. Yeah. Who's that? Is that anything? That was tough to hear. That was really tough to hear. That was really tough to hear. What do you think? Okay. It's all right. It's okay. Caleb came to see me in runaways. Okay. I did. I saw All Chances shows in college and they were, you know. Did you like it? I love supporting my friends. Oh God. It means the world to me to support my friends. Caleb. Musicals are just hard because also the theater is hard in general for me. I love the theater. I have so much respect for the theater. They need to do something about the chairs. Oh, absolutely. Sorry. I'm with you 100% on that. I'm tall. I'm fat. And I can't be living like this. It feels like it's akin to like being in a plane. Like it's the worst feeling ever. Yeah. And it's a night out. Yeah. When you go to on a plane, you're like, I have to do this to get somewhere. Yeah. Going to the theater and being uncomfortable for two and a half hours is like, I'm, this was the activity. If I don't get an aisle seat, I literally cannot sit in the chair. It would be like if your friend was like, I'm a flight attendant. Would you come sit middle row economy for a couple hours and watch me do my thing? It's like, well, yeah, if you really want me to, but I'm going to have a bad time. I don't know if I would. It's hard. I don't know what I would. I don't know if I would. It's hard. I've been in an era of saying no and I love it. Yeah. I love saying no. You're in your no era. I love it. You're no era. I love it. Whoa. Well, my thing is like, if I genuinely know I can do good by you or for you, I will do it. Yeah. But if it's like, I have to extend myself in a way that I don't want to in this moment, I'm going to say no. Yeah. I'm going to say no. No is powerful. Love it. I've been on no for years. Good for you. I've been living in no for a long time. It's crazy because it feels like mid-20s right now. It's like, how have I not been doing this my entire life? You're so young. I don't feel that. You're so young. I don't feel that at all. I feel that I've been here many, many years. But being queer, it's like once you turn 26, you're kind of dead. I'm 30. Damn. Yeah. You're saying that to a 30-year-old. And isn't your birthday in January? Yeah. So it'll be 31. So you think I've been dead for four years? What kind of flowers would he might want? Tulips. Tulips. Okay. That's our outdoor dash. Do you know what I have good news for you? What? It only gets better. Okay. I'm excited. When you get to my age, you're going to see things, all kinds of different ways. And the crazy thing about healing, the crazy thing about not getting rid of, but coping with trauma is like, now I feel like I will be 31-day, which is good. I love that feeling. This was a big part of my problem as well. I never saw myself. When I, all my whole life up to like 17, I was like, I don't see myself being 18. I think I'm going to die. And then when I turned 18, genuinely every year after that, I've been like, oh, this is a miracle. Color me gag when I found out that was just a trauma response. I was like, whoa! Not me being alive still. It's serious like that. Like come on, I was just having a little fun. Yeah. I should be a therapist. But yes. I'm so glad that you're here. Thank you. I'm glad that you're here too. Just so you know. Yeah. Are you in therapy? I kind of, not anymore. I got to a point where I didn't, this sounds bad, but I didn't need it anymore. It doesn't sound bad. You fix certain problems? Yeah. I might go in soon for like maintenance just to get like better coping skills with like certain work things. But no, I was in therapy like five months ago. No. What is it? Like five months ago I stopped going. Yeah. And how's it been? Pretty good. I'm actually really proud of myself when it comes to that. I've like been able to, I guess like self-navigate or maybe self-therapy like problems that have been coming up and I'm really proud of myself for that. What do you, do you think that's the biggest thing you've gotten out of therapy so far? Yeah. When I first started doing therapy, I think maybe two or three years ago, every session I would be crying and I was like, okay, maybe it was good that I was here. Fuck. Yeah. I was like, okay, my bad. I didn't even know that it was like that. And this year it's been about like a lot of the problems I'm having now is just like work related and like self-care. She wasn't telling me this sounds bad too, but she wasn't saying anything that I didn't know. Yeah. It was just a matter of, I guess I needed someone else to tell me to do the things that I know how to do, I guess. Yeah. Leave out time for yourself. Cook your own meals. Stop going to Wendy's. Right. Maybe figure out a way to go to sleep without jerking off. Yeah. So. Why? I know. I haven't got past that one yet. That one seems harmless. I'll let you know when I do. I'll text you. Yeah. You text me at like 6 a.m. one morning. I did it. Good news, King. I just slept without jerking off. I fucking did it. I fucking did it. That one seems harmless. It is harmless. I think it is. Yeah. But who knows? I've been thinking about getting back to therapy mostly because I really relate to the thing about like, well, a therapist has never told me something I don't know. Frankly, like that's just reality. Every time I've been in therapy, they've said things that I'm like, duh. Like I'm sorry, just duh. I know that. I feel like a lot of it is just like, you need someone to say, you need to do it. You need the passion I've done. Yeah. I think I want someone to be there keeping track. Like I would like to be with someone who's like, remember three months ago when you were working on that thing and now it's better? Because I will have that realization myself sometimes way too late that I'm like, you've gotten way better at this thing. I would like to maybe, I'm thinking about going back to therapy now because I'm like, that would be nice to just have someone who's like, hey, how's that thing going? Okay. How's that thing you were working on? Are you the same way with like creatively when it comes to your comedy and like work and stuff like that? What do you mean? Like do you need like partners and stuff to keep you motivated? No. I'm very self motivated and I would actually like to incorporate more collaboration into my creative life. I see what you're saying. Yeah. I do pretty much everything on my own creatively. Okay, cool. Like in terms of like ideating, now making things like there's a whole team to make everything I obviously can't engineer the show and Nicole does that. I need chances to help. Michelle's help. I have a lot of help in my life, but when it comes to like writing jokes, finishing the script, getting the thing that like the creative stuff that needs to come from my brain, I would like to work in more ways to like extract that stuff with other people. I think that'd be fun. Do you have any advice for me to start stand up? Are you thinking about starting stand up? I want to. Oh my God. The next natural thing I need to do. That makes me so happy. I love that. Well, my advice is just start doing it. And open mics were never any good for me. Personally, I didn't have fun at them. They were deeply misogynistic, which made me ill and homophobic, which made me mad. And even when they weren't, I just didn't feel like it was useful information. Six comics barely paying attention to you. Laughing at your material tells you nothing about a joke. A lot of comics I deeply love and respect disagree with that. My personal opinion is that it's just not good feedback. So here's the advice I would give you or anyone who's thinking about starting stand up is there's always room for more of us. Please do it. I don't subscribe to the idea that we need fewer stand ups. We need more people who give a shit about it and actually want to be good at it. So if that's you, come on out. And then what I would say is like get booked on some, some friend shows and things like low stakes shows to build some material. And then after you have a good little base of material, if you want to test new stuff, ask to jump on someone's show or do a booked show like in New York, it's like Union Hall, Little Field, Bell House, these are those places. And the way I test new material without doing open mics is well now I could put up a new material show if I wanted to. Like I'm lucky to have an audience like that. But when I didn't, I would do like a 70, 30 or a 60, 40 where I would do like, I would open with a really strong joke that I've done before that I know works. And then I would try some new stuff and then I would middle with a strong existing joke, try some new stuff and then close with a strong existing joke. So it's like, I'm not robbing the audience of a good set. I know that I'll open, open middle and close on something that's tested and works. But I'm also not robbing myself of the chance to get a genuine audience reaction to what I'm working on. That's really smart. Okay, wow. That's one piece of advice I can give you. Well, thank you. I appreciate it. I would love to see you do stand up. I would love to see it too. And the thing is I kind of, all of my jokes are already posted online. You know what I mean? Like I'm already a comedian. I just need to take literally what I post on TikTok and make a story out of it. So I'm excited. Absolutely. This is something that I'm thinking about doing maybe next year. I'm pretty booked until the end of it. Of this year. I love it. I think also something to consider is like there are a lot of people who put like John Marco Soracias, such a great stand up, such a great writer. He was just on the show too. I love him. And he tests a lot of stuff online and then takes it to the stage. That's one way to do it. And then another way that I like to do it is if I have something that's really juicy and really good that I think is going to be amazing. Like if I think it's like stand up that I'm going to love, I won't say it anywhere else. And I save it for the stage. And that sometimes is really fun too to be like, oh, if I have this story that I love that I think is so juicy and like. So it stays fresh. And then I just don't know what's on the agenda. There's been many a comedian in New York that I've seen online and I'm like, I know every single one of your punchlines. It's all waxed. Yeah. Gotcha. And the stage is so such a gift to the audience. Having some lore. Exactly. Some mystique. Some mystique. I'm excited for your stand up era. Thank you. Do you have like stand up inspirations? Yes. Who are they? I'm so glad you asked. Obviously Bob. I love Bob the drag queen. She's like one of my biggest inspirations. I mean, she's a god. Bob is so fucking funny and smart. It's insane. It's smart. Yeah. Like so smart. Yeah. Do you know who Ali Sudeikis? I don't. He's really funny. Yeah. I was watching one of his specials and I think I was just listening to it and the way he can navigate through a story and his timing is perfect. I love Ali Sudeik. It used to be Kevin Hart too. What changed? I don't know. It became too flouncy, I guess. Yeah. I'm not going to go in that direction is what I'm essentially saying. I will say on that front and this is no personally no knock on Kevin. I really respect his craft. Me too. But there is, I do think he, it seems that he suffered a little bit from what a lot of stand-up suffer from which is that stand-up is the people's art form. Stand-up is a relatability art form. Getting up in front of a room of people and talking about life in a way that makes sense to you and to them. I think after his, whatever his third Netflix thing was. Because guess what happened? Yeah. He got rich. Yeah. And so you get rich and then if you're lucky you don't lose touch but very few people have been lucky. I think he suffers a little bit now from being like all of his stories are like me and LeBron James were on the PGA and it's like I'm bored. I do like him with Dwayne The Rock Johnson. Yeah. I think they're hilarious together. Well they're just so... They're so... It's like right there. It's right in there. Oh and Monique as well. Monique is huge. You know she's one of mine. I love Monique. Monique Queens of Comedy set. Monique Queens of Comedy set. Monique Queens of Comedy set. Yeah. She is everything to me. You skinny bitches are evil and you need to be destroyed. You need to be destroyed. Her... Monique Queens of Comedy set. Her coming out and saying... I've talked about this a million times on this show at this point. The two of the most iconic sets of all time to me are Monique Queens of Comedy and Bernie Mack when he's doing... Oh I love Bernie Mack. Not scared of y'all. I had never gotten into him like deeply. I loved this show though. Unbelievable. Yeah. Especially that set. I'm not scared of y'all. Kick it. That set. But Monique when she starts that set by coming out and going every fat bitch in this room should be standing up and applauding me right now. That's mother. That's queen dude. That's what Anakin Easton. And I did. I got up and applauded. That's mother. I had just like the first time I saw that in high school I had never seen a fat person take up a room like that. And I was like oh she's not apologizing. She's so in charge. I feel like if people like scroll down my channels they will see like the inspirations of Monique and Ali and a little bit of Bob of just seeing how I navigate. And every word is funny. I'm picking each word specifically for the joke. That's what I really appreciate about their kind of comedy too. Yeah. Smart. Yeah she's so smart and fearless. And yeah I love her. Her Queens of Comedy set is the biggest thing for me but then obviously the Parkers. Meet the Parkers. I don't know if I've seen it. Really? Oh my god. I don't know what joke was the most. I don't know if I've seen it. It's not really. It's a sitcom. So it's just like her. Oh yeah I don't even know anything about this. And also was it Meet the Parkers or just the Parkers? That's what I thought. The Parkers is Monique sitcom from like late 90s early 2000. Who else was in it? Who else was in it? Yeah. So it was called just the Parkers and it was on yeah 1999 to 2004 on UPN. It was a spin off to Moisha. Oh. There's stars Monique, Countess Vaughn, Mari Moro, Dorian Wilson, Jenna Vaughn-Oi, Camille and Yvette Wilson. You have to watch it for a million reasons but not the least of which is Monique plays a horny legend. Monique plays a horny legend. Oh I live. She's so horny in that show. Is she not just a horny legend? Well she is but I'm saying I get the show she embodies such a specific she's like going after this professor the whole time. I love that. She is unbelievable. And I think maybe because I do gay art like a lot of people think I'm just like a lexicon of references. Yeah. If it is before 2010 I promise you I don't know it. Yeah. I promise you. Well do you know I knew I randomly will know a bunch of stuff about the I don't know if you guys ever got into this but the I love the 90s, I love the OOs, I love the do you know that show? See there's something missing in our culture now. Is it VH1 or MTV? It was VH1. VH1 had this series called I Love the Series and it was a panel show for comedians and writers and musicians to come on and do talking head interviews about I love the 2000s would be like everything important that happened culturally in the 2000s and it was like how I learned pop culture history. Okay. And I don't know if it's streaming somewhere but honestly like worth a watch. That actually sounds like something I need. It's funny. The producers are constantly trying to catch me up on like pop culture references from the 90s and the 2000s but there's so much where I can't like there's no way I can be like at the front of now and trying to learn at the same time. I don't know. I'm not really at the front of now. I'm behind on so many things now. Good. I don't know what the hell is going on. Good. Movies I'm pretty up on but TV shows I haven't seen like any TV show. Yeah. So I'm always behind on that. The parkers iconic though they go to college together they have a little apartment it's mother daughter it's cute. Love an adult sitcom. Yeah. Really fun. What is your favorite like what's your favorite TV show of all time. My instinct is to say Naruto but just because it's what I grew up on. Yeah. I think if I had to pick like a western live action live action. I don't know. Yeah. That's a good one. I will say what I liked recently in the past year or so I loved the last of us. I thought they did that really really well. Yeah. I loved. I recently watched what's it called. Scavengers rain. I liked it. I couldn't finish it though because it was too heebie jeebie. Yeah. It's scary or like it was just like not scary. There's like creatures and morphine and body horror and gore and that kind of stuff and I'm not a huge fan of that stuff but it was a great story. What else have I liked. Oh interview with the vampire. Okay. Got it. Interview with the vampire is probably one of my favorite TV shows ever. Oh yeah. Yeah. I love that. Have you seen it. No. Gay vampires start in Louisiana. I need to walk in. Hello. That's all you need. Hello. That's all you need but it is all I need. I really need you to see that TV show actually. I will. What is so true to you. So true to me. Yeah. Is this the thing you guys have told me to come. Okay. I've been thinking about this. Thank you. You're one of the only. I knew this is the thing I go on podcasts and I'm like oh they're going to ask me something for their show. Yeah. And I'm always under research. Yeah. So I was thinking about it. And not to be on some alpha beta omega dynamics shit but to also be on some alpha beta omega shit. Yeah. Should get pregnant. Thank you. This has come up. I really do. Yeah. And I can't speak to the logistics. Yeah. I can't speak to the anatomy or the physiology of such. Yeah. I just think we would be in a completely different position globally if men got pregnant. I agree. And it's not even like they need to be inseminated. Maybe it's every time they inseminate they get pregnant. Like if there's some kind of the egg travels into them. Let's wake that up. Boom. Where is science. Boom. Because what are we doing with science if the egg can't go up the deck. I'm thinking I'm thinking like. Okay. First of all crazy. Wild. That's insane. Whoa. I'm thinking like anything from financially to racially to sexually romantically things would change. Yeah. Like and I don't know if it's better. What's so true to me. What's so true to me. I don't know if it's better if both sexes can get pregnant. So it's all skate. Yeah. Or if it's like in 20 years or no in two years everybody on the other side of the spectrum can get pregnant. I don't know what's better. But that's what's true to me. I think men should get pregnant. I like that. I really like that. And I would support it and love it. And I wish I could get a man pregnant. I've said this on the show. I think it would be really cool. What. It's just a lot. Caleb. You think that's crazy of me. I don't think it's crazy. I just maybe what's happening is I'm reconciling my head cannon of you from a bottom to a top. I thought you were just a bottom. I didn't think you were just a bottom. I thought you might have had a preference. I never thought you were just a bottom. I always thought you were so much more than that. We teach bottoms and James factored they're a writer at them. Came on my show and was like we teach bottoms to be small to shrink themselves. That is the funniest thing I've ever heard in my life. I'm not a top or a bottom or a verse. I'm a dedicated team player who thrives in a fast paced environment. You'd be great at Starbucks. I'm just love to see the team win. You know. Are you a cuck? I want to see everyone. I want to see everyone getting what they need. I want everyone to come. I live for that. I want everyone to have a good time. Everybody should come. Everybody should come. You included me. Oh, definitely. If I don't come, it didn't happen. It sounded just so altruistic. I wasn't expecting that from you. Oh, no, I'm coming. Yeah. No, I need to come. All right, sweetie. But everyone gets to come. Yeah. I'm not the only one. You're a social comer. You may say that I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one. I want you to stop acting like you can't. And I'm coming. Do not come. Do not come. Do not come. Do not come. I love that. That video. Thank you. Yeah, I'm proud of you. Thank you. What's your usual so true take? Oh, I haven't done one in awhile. That's so true to me right now. I mean, I say some version of this all the time, but we really, we have to throw the smartphones in the oceans. Sure. It has to end. I think about often about like working how I miss letters. I miss letters. I miss writing letters. Really cool. One of my friends and I used to be pen pals like we would send each other letters instead of like texting all the time. Yeah. But then they moved here. Fuck. Fuck. I have a friend in New York who sends me letters. That's awesome. Yeah. I guess I could. It's just like now there's not really an excuse. Yeah. I just, yeah, I need us to figure something else out. I'm not having fun. Yeah. I don't want people to continue hitting me up. What's so true to me is don't hit me up. I can let you have something really fun to bring to me. Stop asking me for stuff. Everybody wants something. That's true. I wonder. Maybe we'll talk about this off the camera too. It feels like I'm in this exact same experience where it feels like a lot of people need a lot of things from me all of a sudden. Yeah. I hate it. I hate it. I think they have, it's the constant access to me that is allowing them to do such, which I hate. Yeah. There's something, yeah. I'm trying really hard to give off a don't contact me vibe. That's not, there's something about my jolly fat midwestern presence that's negating the vibe I'm giving. Sure. And so I'm actually, I think I'm giving off, hit me up. Right. Do you ever feel like you can't be fat and mean? For sure. Okay. Constantly. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm doing it anyway. I was literally getting ready to say, so you're being both. So you're being both. And we're right back to bisexual. And we're right back to bi. All roads lead to bi. And I've always said that. All roads lead to bi. What's your sexuality these days? I'm a non-binary bisexual trans woman. That's what I thought. Yeah. That's a lot. Insert applause. Insert applause. You know a lot of people just had aneurysm. They were like, all my Republican fans. They're like brain took a screenshot. The number's not zero. Chance, I would like to do a segment please. Let's go. Thank you, babe. I'm so excited for this. And I am. I have a segment for you. True or false. I'm going to read you 15 statements. You're going to tell me as quickly as you can. If you think that what I just said is true or false, if you get 10 or more correct, you know, we're going to give you 50 US dollars. The segment has kind of randomly become like everyone's favorite part of the show. It is kind of iconic. It's the iconic so- It's also such a good...we'll talk marketing later, but it's just such a good way to promote your show. We'll talk marketing later. Okay, you ready? Yeah, but if I do get less than 10, I'm calling you transphobic. Of course. All right. And you would be right. Cheese existed before written language. True. True. Smoking one cigarette can reduce your life expectancy by about 20 days. False. False. It's 20 minutes. False. True. A group of wild cats is called the destruction. True. True. Iowa State University's mascot is the Hawkeyes. False. False. It's the cyclones. And yeah, that was a chance you tried to do a trick, but a real Iowa person knows. There's no word in the English language that rhymes with month. False. True. Emerson College's school paper is the Berkeley Beacon. Oh, true. True. Cynthia Arrivo was born in Scotland. True. False. In Scotland. Razor scooters came out in 1989. True. False. 2000. William Henry Harrison was only president for a month. True. True. Only 2% of Earth's population naturally has green eyes. False. True. Davenport, Iowa is the largest of the Quad Cities. True. True. Facebook is older than LinkedIn. I actually don't know. True. False. Okay. Heinz ketchup. Okay. Immediately. Okay. Heinz ketchup was originally a glue company. False. False. The Pope can't be an organ donor. False. True. It's true. What the fuck? How'd they do? Nine. Oh. You transphobic piece of shit. I know. That's okay. I did get all the Iowa ones right. Thank you for that. Oh, that one was, oh, maybe it'll go, slow that down, make me look cool. Nine was a beautiful run. That's okay. And the Pope was a beautiful run. It's true. Is it because his organs are so much better than mine? They're whole way from God. It's because the church owns his body. Yeah. Yeah. Wake up. Wake up, people. Literally, wake up. Hello. That doesn't sound crazy. Can you say that one more time? The Catholic church owns the Pope's body. Hello. Is that not fucking crazy? These people are psychotic. If you take any piece of religion and just like sit with it for a moment. Yeah. They're all fucking bananas. I knew I wasn't going to be Christian, like at least religious in that sense very long as soon as I started asking questions. Yeah. Because the reaction from adults when you start asking questions, no, I was like something's that whole thing's crumbling something's up. They're like, don't poke holes. I've decided on this. Yeah, it's nuts. Why? Why? Yeah. Why? Because it is. Uh-uh. No, man. And I, yes, such a treat to have you. I am so sorry. Yeah. Yes. Such a treat to have you. I am so honored to be here. Thank you. We love you so deeply. Tell the people where they can find you, what they should be watching. You can find me at Ananiah00, ANA, NIA00, and watch my show, Gaydar. And come see you. And come see Saturday Church. By the time this comes out, we might be closed. When do you close? October 24th. Nope, there's some time. Oh, work. Come see Saturday Church at the New York Theater Workshop. Come see Saturday Church. I'm on my broad. And watch Gaydar and follow Ananiah. 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