Joe and Jada

Angela Renee Simmons talks NEW SINGLE “Run To” w/ Jada, mental health & growing up hip hop royalty

48 min
Mar 19, 20262 months ago
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Summary

Angela Renee Simmons discusses her new single 'Run To,' her journey into music as a creative outlet, and the importance of mental health awareness. The episode explores growing up as hip-hop royalty, balancing multiple careers as a mom, entrepreneur, and artist, and how personal struggles with mental health inspired her music.

Insights
  • Mental health struggles are universal but often masked; music and creative expression provide therapeutic outlets for processing pain and connecting with others experiencing similar challenges
  • Growing up in the spotlight creates unique pressure to appear perfect, but establishing boundaries and not comparing oneself to family legacy is crucial for mental wellbeing
  • Time allocation and prioritization across multiple roles requires breaking down 100% into percentages and giving full effort to each allocated segment rather than spreading oneself thin
  • The music industry's social media culture amplifies mental health challenges; creating spaces for authentic vulnerability in art can help normalize difficult conversations
  • Spiritual grounding and seeking help (therapy, mentorship, community) are essential protective factors against depression and burnout, especially for those in high-pressure environments
Trends
Rise of introspective, spiritually-grounded music as counterculture to high-energy trap and drill trendsCelebrity offspring leveraging family legacy while establishing independent creative identities in musicMental health normalization in hip-hop and R&B through vulnerable songwriting and public discourseMulti-hyphenate creator model: combining music, business ventures, motherhood, and entrepreneurshipShift toward meaningful creative expression over commercial quick-fixes in artist developmentPodcast platforms as primary venue for deep-dive celebrity interviews and mental health discussionsGenerational wealth and privilege creating both opportunities and unique mental health pressures for Gen Z artistsTherapeutic music production: using studio time as meditation and emotional processing tool
Topics
Mental Health Awareness and DepressionMusic as Therapeutic ExpressionGrowing Up in the SpotlightWork-Life Balance and Time ManagementHip-Hop Legacy and Family InfluenceSpiritual Grounding and FaithEntrepreneurship and Multiple Career PathsSocial Media Pressure and PerfectionismMusic Production and Creative ProcessMotherhood and ParentingTherapy and Mental Health SupportArtist Development and Record LabelsGen Z Mental Health ChallengesAuthenticity in EntertainmentBusiness Ventures (Angela's Cakes)
Companies
Rough Riders Records
Angela Renee Simons' record label; she signed a deal with them for her music project
iHeart Radio
Podcast distribution platform mentioned multiple times for accessing various shows and playlists
Apple Podcasts
Podcast platform where the Joe and Jada show and other featured podcasts are available
Spotify
Music streaming platform referenced for listening to playlists and new music releases
Hard Rock Bet Florida
Sports betting sponsor offering bracket contests and bonus bets during March Madness
Canva
Design and social media editing tool mentioned in advertisement segment
Booking.com
Holiday home booking platform featured in advertisement segment
Honda Civic
Automotive sponsor mentioned in advertisement segment
People
Angela Renee Simons
Guest discussing her new single 'Run To', music career, and growing up as hip-hop royalty
Joe Budden
Co-host of the podcast conducting interview with Angela Renee Simons
Jada
Co-host of the podcast conducting interview with Angela Renee Simons
Rev Run
Angela's father; discussed as hip-hop legend and influence on her upbringing and values
Justine Simmons
Angela's mother; credited with instilling values and not forcing children into entertainment industry
Dr. Dre
Referenced as potential collaborator; Joe suggests he should work with Angela on music
Ella Mai
Contemporary artist whose music inspired Angela's approach to creating peaceful, soulful music
Erykah Badu
Musical influence mentioned as inspiration for Angela's artistic direction
Jill Scott
Musical influence mentioned as inspiration for Angela's artistic direction
Jhené Aiko
Musical influence; Angela listened to her music daily for calm and inspiration
2 Chainz
Visited the show and told Joe Budden he was 'crazy', influencing Joe's self-perception
Ludacris
Hosting the iHeart Radio Music Awards mentioned in advertisement
John Green
Co-host of soccer/football podcast mentioned in advertisement segment
Daniel Alarcón
Co-host of soccer/football podcast mentioned in advertisement segment
Quotes
"I don't think they want you to be perfect. I think the world wants you to be perfect. I'm by no means perfect. I mean, it might look perfect, but like on the inside, everyone got their own stuff going on."
Angela Renee SimonsEarly in interview
"At a mental health level, it's so important not to put yourself in that position where you're stuck being and being someone who you're not just for everybody else."
Joe BuddenMental health discussion
"I run to God before anything else. You know what I mean? Like, I got to run before we do anything else."
Angela Renee SimonsDiscussing 'Run To' inspiration
"Depression is like, they say lack of expression and it's like you versus you. So, it's like anytime you feeling down, it's like you really got to look at yourself."
Angela Renee SimonsMental health discussion
"I'm going to give 20% here. But when I give that 20%, I'm going to give 100% at that 20%. You got what I'm saying? My highest level."
Angela Renee SimonsWork-life balance discussion
Full Transcript
Hey there, this is Josh from Stuff You Should Know with a message that could change your life. The Stuff You Should Know ThinkSpring Podcast playlist is available now. Whether Spring has sprung in your neck of the woods yet or not, the Stuff You Should Know ThinkSpring playlist will make you want to get your overalls on, get outside, and get your hands in the dirt. You can get the Stuff You Should Know ThinkSpring playlist on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Daniel Alarcón, and this is my friend who's much more famous than I am. I wouldn't go that far. But I'm John Green, co-host of the podcast The Away End with my old friend Daniel. On our podcast The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup. Together, we'll find out why of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important. Listen to The Away End with Daniel Alarcón and John Green on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Sun on the Dashboard. The kind of day that makes you want to take the long way home. With the dynamic civic hybrid, you get that choice that just feels right, or the thrill you want, with the efficiency you actually need. For the viewers and the people on the rack, she's stepping in the music now. She got the new song called Run To. That's what she's talking about. And you're on it. That is like a very high-pitched voice. I'm telling you, let it sit! Yo, what up, y'all? This is Joe Crack, the Don. It's your boy Jada. You know what it is, the Joe and Jada show. Every show legendary. Every show iconic. It was precious. Hard to believe. Today's guest. You think of today's guest. You think of a lot of things. You think of a great mom. Think of a family-orientated person, a creator. You think of somebody that works out, extreme work out, all kind of working out. You think of somebody that takes nice trips, I'm jealous of. You think of somebody that's very photogenic. You think of somebody that, whenever she puts her hand on anything, it flourishes, it drives, it does well. You think of somebody that does a lot of praying. You know what I mean? It comes from a good family, a good background. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for Angela Rene Simons. My intro is getting better and better. That was a wonderful intro. Right on point. Is that new to Rene Simons? I don't think it can be new. We never heard it. Angela Rene is my artist name. Angela Rene Simons is my full name. Angela Rene is the artist name. I heard it two, three times this morning. I'm like, alright, so we running with that. That's my real name though, because Rene is my middle name. That makes sense. I had to ask you, I was nervous, James, do I don't say Simons or do I just add Rene? I don't want to mess up. You gotta say Simons, but you gotta say that. This one of them things, two times a family. Two times a family with the peppermint tea. Thank you. I'm like, so no, it's a two times a family. How many people can get a two times a family to get them a peppermint tea? If that's like peppermint tea, two times a family. You miss that Jordan, boy, you was like, they left without me, huh? Yeah, that boat sailed. Yo, that boat sailed. That boat sailed, man. Savin' for Thursday. Listen, you grew up royalty to us. You know, we look up to your family so much on another level that you were just born into this role. Like your family is pretty much in hip hop culture, because I take hip hop like it's a religion, to be honest with you. And so there's forefathers, there's people, we wouldn't be here if it wasn't for your family, right? And so when we see you growing up, it's like, almost like the Kennedys or something. We lookin' at you like, she's real tall. We look, where I say now? Not like the Kennedys, man. I mean, honestly, no, give me another good parrots, not the Kennedys. The Kennedys are big. We know they are, but I don't like that good parrots. Rockefeller? Not that one either. I understand where you're going. No, what I'm like, you obviously don't understand. I do understand. We know what you say. Early. Like listen to me, man. I know what you say. You understand? But growing up before everybody's eyes, and that's even before social media, how tough is it to be perfect? How tough is it to, like everybody expects so much from you, everybody just looks at you like... He's gonna ask you some crazy things. Is he really? So I need you to just... Y'all, yeah. Slow with it. I'm gonna try to slow with it. I'm doing the most decent, the most questions in the world. How tough is it to be perfect is the kind of a shit. But it's true that... That's the question for that. I mean, I don't think they want you to be perfect. I think the world wants you to be perfect. I'm by no means perfect. I mean, it might look perfect, but like on the inside, everyone got their own stuff going on. So when you say perfect, it's defined perfect. What do you mean by perfect? What I mean, everybody expects so much from you. Since you was a baby, we looked at you like, alright, this is what it is. How hard is that? I guess you're from legacy, so they're like, what's next for you? How do you compete or compare to that? And I think the most important thing is coming from it is not to compare yourself to that. To just be who I am. And our parents really instilled that in us at a young age. You don't have to even be of this industry. You know what I mean? We were never forced into it. We didn't have to be on TV growing up. We didn't have to do none of it. My parents were like, want me to be a doctor, go be a doctor. You want to be it? Whatever, and you could change your career at any point. And you're like, even now, if I just want to go do something else, I'm not confined to one thing. Confined to one thing. I don't have to do that. So I feel like being perfect, you know, your family doesn't... My family doesn't force that on us, but the world has the pressure of saying, be perfect. But no, for me, I don't look at it like that. You know what I mean? Like I don't push, put that much pressure on myself. I just do what feels the best, you know? At a mental health level, it's so important not to put yourself in that position where you're stuck being and being someone who you're not just for everybody else. Yeah. How important is it to talk about mental health on a public platform? Very important. I mean, even run to. It's like, I'm really big on where do you run to? When you're going through things, where can you run to? What does everyone have? I run to God before anything else. You know what I mean? Like, I got to run before we do anything else. For the people that... For the viewers and the people on the rock, she's stepping in the music now. She got the new song called Run To. That's what she's talking about. And you're on it. That is like a very high... I'm telling you, let it sit. That is like a highlight. I have to say... I was faced somewhere else. She was like, yo, I'm coming on... By the way, people, there's a long list of... That's the fuck I mean. There's a long waiting list of people, superstar actors, who's trying to get on this show. And you was like, yo, Joe, I'm coming on this show. I'll be there next week. Don't worry. They said, I guess I assume my Royal position. That's the right queen is coming. She's sitting down and we ain't being... It is what it is. And she told me she did a song with you. Like, just what made you want to rap? And now... You're not rapping? Yeah, I would say it's more poetry. You said poetry, right? Because I ain't hearing it yet. You didn't hear it yet? No, I ain't. We're going to hear it together for sure, right? But it's spoken word. I mean, I just... I'm a creator and I'm a creator. And I went into studio and I went with what came from inside of me. Like, there's other levels and layers to me that people haven't met yet. And so this is another side. Your voice is ill. Thank you. And when a hitmaker called me, you know... Hitmakers behind this. Hitmaker Quartet, but hitmaker got... It's my little man. ...reached out to Jada. Yeah, they reached out and they were trying to explain what kind of song it was. I can't really understand to be sent it. To your love. To your love. Sent it. I'm like, oh no, this shit is the one. This is the next vibe. Survive. Yeah. It's a top-down vibe, you know, here, flowing in the air. You know, you better than me. I asked them for a verse. I never get it. You get it. I'm so thankful for my verse. Ain't that some shit? You got Sapa Denon Live, huh? I can't get this ball fucking to do nothing. Nah, that's cat. Ladies and gentlemen, you know that stuff. So you just said that you're being creative. You know, I've been hearing that a lot lately. And I appreciate that. And I love that because for many years I feel like that has gone away from the culture. Where it ain't just quick fix to make money. It ain't just people like, y'all want to just express myself. Yes. This is near to my heart. I mean, it's a project I started working on over two years ago. But I have like 12 or 15 songs. I'm actively in the studio. I'm signed with Rough Riders, which is like huge. Make some noise for that big wop in the building. Yeah. They did a deal with me. Y'all why? What's up, baby? Y'all why in the building. Yeah. And that alone is just exciting for me. So I'm stepping into a whole new world, but it's something that I've been doing and I'm actively in the studio and there will be a project, but we started and we run to. What inspired you run to? When I got in the booth, honestly, just thinking of life and life circumstances and what's going on in mental health and like, where can I go and, you know, Riza's on the track, the girl singing and listening to what she was talking about. I'm like, yo, this makes sense for that. You know what I mean? Sitting there and really thinking about what people are going through. People mask their pain all day. We all do. We're human. But it's like, where can we go? How do we like express? So it just came from like, really motion, raw emotions, things I'm going through, things that I feel like other people can relate to and maybe don't always talk about. But music's a great place because it's things you listen to. Like for me, the first thing I do in the morning, I'm on jazz, I'm listening to meditation stuff. So like this is something to me I can listen to first thing in the morning because it's positive and it pushes me to the next level. Like what's next, you know? Is there a project? I said, I heard you say you've been working on it, but you're going to release. Yes, there's a project. Don't rush the single though. Let the single. Let it marinate and saute and do us numbers. No, we got time for the project. The single is the push right now. That's what I like to hear. Yeah. The video. You ain't see the video yet, right? I ain't see nothing yet. We got it from here. Everything. I'm in the blind man. Nobody's showing me shit. Oh, we got to show you everything. I'm in the blind. I'm in the blind. Objects appear closer than the mirror or whatever that shit is. I don't, you know, it's crazy, right? Because when we talk about mental health, like me myself, I went through depression for like two years. Got real fat. Got, you know, couldn't sleep. Couldn't, you know, I went through it, through it, through it, through it, through it. And the whole time, you know, the challenge ain't even a place, right? So say the first year of my depression, I went, the luckiest thing I think I had about my depression was that I was rich at the time. So at least I was able, yeah, that helped. I was at the Delano. I had the bungalow for like rented for a year. Oh, wow. So I'm just in there depressed, coming out, pooling, new strangers every day. I lived in the Delano in Miami in the bungalow. And I was just like, wherever you go, you can go to the most beautiful place when you're going through depression. That's you can't mask it, cause it's all in your mind. So I'm saying your mind is like a moving skew. So it's like you fighting your mind. So I noticed I said, damn, this one thing, you a gang member, you got to move out of Compton. Hey, move out of Compton, they won't kill you. But when you fighting your own mind, it don't matter where you go, you go private islands. I did all that shit, private islands, all that, but still depressed and still fucked up still, you know, and it's like a moving skew. One day you got to figure it out. You got to crack that code. I kept telling myself, like, yo, Joe, you smart. Come on, figure this out. Joe, every day fighting myself, yo, Joe, you smart man, figure this out. Come on, you know how to get out of this. You know what's going on? Cause I knew what was going on, like not only being depressed, I'm losing everything. Like, you know what I'm saying? My crew, my this, my that, everybody looking at Joe, he not the same, weaker, just this, that. So, you know, that mental illness is real, but I told them before, he hates what I repeat stories, but it's important. You know, when I was going to see therapy, it was 99% women and me. I was the only man in there going to get therapy. He was, he was just all women and me. And I asked the doc one day, I said, you're not saying why there's no men here. And she was like, well, these are all women. They got rich husbands that feel like every time their husband leave out of town, he doing the do. He giving us. He's not seeking the king. Told she's not seeking the king though. You got to seek the king. Yes. Yes. Seek the king. That's rude though. Seek the king. I mean, you get that one. Anytime temptation, any bad thing, whatever, just say, you're seeking the king though and get up at it. Yeah, but that's real. I mean, depression is like, they say lack of expression and it's like you versus you. So, it's like anytime you feeling down, it's like you really got to look at yourself. You know what I mean? It's like, what am I doing that's not expressing myself enough? What am I not expressing? What part of my life am I not like, what am I not doing? Because like, I get, I think sometimes, and I think so many people even around me have experienced depression. And I've been through things where it's like, what do you do now? Like, what am I not doing to get myself to the other side? It's such a push. And so that, like to me, that's the part of like the inspiration behind the music, like in what I'm putting out right now. Fine. That's right. You're a mom, a producer, an entrepreneur, a creator. Now you're making music. How are you going to balance all of these things? I don't think there's a perfect balance to it. I think it's more about just allocating time. Like, okay, I'm going to put this much percent of time here. This here, it's like looking at your 100% and splitting it up and giving 100% of each time of each of those percent. You know, I learned that from a mentor over time and I was like, that makes a lot of sense because you can't give 100% to everything without breaking it down. Like, okay, I'm going to give 20% here. But when I give that 20%, I'm going to give 100% at that 20%. You got what I'm saying? My highest level. So it's just about giving that time when I have that time. Yeah, I don't work like that. Like me, I'm like, I'm like crazy. I'm definitely crazy. No, no, I figured it out. What's your version of crazy though? I'm not crazy, crazy, but I'm crazy. I'm not crazy, crazy. But I'm crazy. I'm crazy. I'm crazy. But the two chains came over here the other day and he sat in that seat and he looked at me and he says, now I watch y'all all the time and I just think you just, he said, nah, you crazy. And he did. The first guy made me realize I'm crazy. Like, it's two chains don't play like that. When he told me that, I looked at him, I said, His word, man. I went home, I said, I said, yo, Joe, you fried. I said, I wonder what I said to two chains. I said, nah, I'm really figuring it out, Joe. You crazy. So I got that call and pulled out of here, headed to Jersey. I said, nah, yo, you know, son, Joe, you fried. You're so just so bad. I'm proud of you. Yeah, because I got, we got a crazy dude that's in this building. He's with OG one and Jay-Z every day. My man, God, I know God, though, since the 80s in the streets. Shout out to God. Shout out to my brother, God, though, and God, though, is fried. Okay. Everybody know he crazy. Everybody, you know God, though, why, you know, it's crazy. Everybody knows it's crazy. One day he looked at me and said, yo, Joe, you know, you fried. I said, it's the fries. When the fly, they're going to Kettle calling the kettle, the pot, whatever. Like he said, I'm fried. Yo, he messed up the, I said, yo, God, though, I'm fried. But the pot calling the, that was the craziest. You calling, the pot calling the kettle black, bro. That man hit me with that. Yo, God, though, Joe, you know you fried. I said, what? Stupid fried my whole life. I got problems, but I got problems in a good way, though. In a good way. You good crazy. Yeah, I'm good crazy, but I need that. You know, she's coming. I know she dropping the record. She's worried. She, I want to talk it pop. I'm not talking mental illness. No, no, no. So we've been talking about, I know it's the realest shit. Everybody's going through something. I mean, I'm going with you. So this is why we talking mental illness right now. Right. So I'm going with, I'm one of them guys. I freestyle. I don't got no, I'm going with the flow. Flow is, it's real. A lot of people go through some shit. Let us tell you what we're going through. So that you maybe hear the help. You've gone through that now. It's true. You understand what I'm saying. But. You're like. A lot. A lot. Finish. I forgot what I started saying. Right. Because of pride. But in this business, right like you, you getting the relationship, you all over everybody in the business, you can't pick a booger. You go to dinner and you shit. You can't pick a booger? It's shit crazy, already. You got flags. Which one should I throw flagging on? Throw a flag. We come up before social media and shit is fried out here. Everything's a problem. A landmine, a diss of that. Let me tell you something. It's none of these people you can put the camera on me. It's none of these people. I hate six nine. Like I hate them. Like I hate them. Hold on. Let me explain something to you. I always got a reason for explaining this shit. I fucking hate them. If you stepped on a landmine, I wouldn't give a fuck. For one kilometer of a second. I might play that. I don't give a fuck, right? So I hate everything he stands for. Everything he does. Everything. I hate them. The guy goes to jail for three months. I thought maybe my social media calmed down. I said, all right, this pussy in jail. That maybe it'll calm down. This shit just start going wild. Crazy everybody else. Beefing with everybody. Everybody talking about everybody. It's like, I thought he was the problem. I thought he was like the cancer of my Instagram. Of everything I hate in life. And the man goes away for three, four months. And the shit get even crazier, bro. So what I'm saying is mental health. When we go back to the mental health. It is mental health. It's all connected. It's all connected. It's all connected. It's all connected because it's fucked up right now. The world and everything that's going on right now. It's fucked up. It's fucked up. It's fucked up. And, you know, to keep your sanity, to keep you this, and then you got to still look cute. You got to do everything you got to do. You got to be presentable. You got to this, this, this, that. That shit is not, it's hard. And I worry about our kids. And I worry about everybody out there. Because there's just so much pressure and so many different ways for everybody. That famous kids. Famous kids. They be killing themselves. They be killing themselves. It's just the truth. Because there's a different kind of pressure on them. Yeah, I mean, the spotlight pressure messes with people for sure. I think if you're not built for or you don't have the foundation, you know what I mean? It can definitely become a thing that's like hard. Especially if you don't have a therapist or you're not seeking like things to help you spiritually if you're not growing. It becomes a really hard space for kids, you know? So, it's tough. We got to keep our eyes open. We got to keep our eyes open. We got to keep good people around you and the right people, great people, matter of fact, around you. And what do you do when you get old like me and you say, yo, I'm tired? Go to bed. Like you're a wife. Go to bed? Go to bed? No, no, no, no. For a long time, St. Wilfred Fried is a big crew. Tara Squire is a big crew. For a long time, I might have talked so many guys off the ledge from doing triple. You don't know how many times I don't drink. How about when you do see me drink? One of my friends say they're about to kill a whole town. I go there and sit with them the six in the morning, drink a Hennessy, talking them off the mountain, the ledge. Nah, brother, you know, drinking the Hennessy with them off the mountain. You know, I did this shit my whole life. I'm tired. I'm tired. Joseph Carligina is tired of jumping and everybody's beef, everybody's talking. I'm tired. I'm tired. Everybody's talking. Everybody's dissed. For years, I had to be like a filter for everybody to talk them off the ledge. You know, and I'm tired now. Like myself, the guy who just been the battering ram of everybody's problems. Everybody... What? You know my... Do you meditate? No, I don't meditate. I'm good. I'm good in my space. No problem with my mental illness and nothing like that. I'm put... Let me tell you something. I'm creative like you. I draw. I go in my office. And yesterday I came off the plane. I drew for like seven hours straight. I don't give a fuck. I just put it in my arm. That's your escape. That's what you wrote. You drew it. That's what my music go was so violent. Because it's like, I gotta get it out. Today's show is brought to you by a presenting sponsor, Hard Rock Bed Florida Sports Book. 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We actually should get you guys some. I should have cooked it, right? We will be soon. Right now, we're online at Angela's Cakes on Instagram. What made you come up with a plan? Could you do it for some guy on keto? We can figure it all out. Whatever's necessary. We can alter the recipe. I'm on keto. They told me they got these protein pancakes and like whole foods. There's two pancakes. They're good? You fastin'? How long you fastin'? Because every day you fast. We was traveling. You muslim? I never knew you was muslim. You just see me fastin'? That's amazing. What's your name in Dubai? Ali Qasadi. I saw a picture. You're my father. Puerto Ricans specialized in pork. They love it. When I said they love pork, I don't know if it was the cheapest meat or whatever, but they were eating it and my mother's house and my father would be like trying to give me pork. I'd be like, your pop, I don't eat pork. He be like, you ain't that religion? He start speaking this shit. He thought I was muslim. I was like, nah, your pop, I just don't eat pork. Yo, it's the best shit in the world. What are you talking about? I made you something. I eat pork every day. What's wrong with you? I'm like, yo, pop, I just don't eat pork. But it's on the stuff a lot. Tell them what? Stuff a lot. Stuff a lot? Nah, my pops ain't give a fuck. That man used to argue with me. He used to try to one day I got so pissed that he made some beans and rice. I looked at the shit. They had a little piece of ham in the base. I said, yo, pops, what's up? He was like, nah, I'm trying to introduce it to you again. I see your pop. Don't fuck with me. He tried to slip me a mic. He threw the ham in that shit. You know how to eat that shit since I'm 12. He tried to slip me a mic with the pork. He tried to slip me a mic with the pork. He was dumb tight. I stopped eating pork. You know that pork, man? Oof. I don't know. I just, I couldn't do it. Not even as a final bill. They say, yo, you about to die. You want to eat some pork? I'll be like, nah, I'm good. What do you want your voice and hip off to represent? Strength, I would say. I really want to be able to inspire on my platform to be able to just uplift folks, you know what I mean? Bring people together. Bring that good feeling, good vibe. You know what I mean? When I'm in the studio, those are the things I'm listening for. What's going to make me feel my best? And I know if I feel good, then I'm exuding that energy out. When you exude, you burn candles. Do you guys sing in Pali Sankthra? Yes. Oh, the Pali Sankthra. Oh, cool. You got my whole vibe down to the sea. So I like it dark. I have the mood, the lights down, the blues, or like, depending on the mood I go with different light color, but very dim. And I like to record at night. I'm sharp at nighttime. Sometimes a little bit of red wine, tea. Yeah. I'll tell you about the red wine. Five bottles. I want lots of candles. Mr. Five Bottles dead or alive, red wine over here. These guys. I'm better in the dates. Really? I mean, I got to try the candles and tea in Pali Sankthra. It's such a pie. The Pali Sankthra. I got to see what I can... You know what she gets. You got guys. Feels peaceful. I look like everyone's sleeping in my head. You know, beautiful. My music can't sound too peaceful. I'm not. That makes sense. I need it peaceful, but not too. I'm not a JDKist fan, bro. I give up on them. I break the CD in every day. Peace, beloved. We all the universe. We all the nicest. Fuck out of here. I want my money back. Peace, beloved. I mean, yo. You ain't gonna know. I'm not gonna tell you what song I made of the... Of the piece of the Pali Sankthra. That's my song. Jill Scott. We got NDI Re. Erika Badu. Selanj. We got Selanj. Jenae Aiko really inspired me as well. When I heard her stuff, that is an artist that when I listened to it... I used to listen to her calm down. She's like a really nice one. I used to listen to it every morning. And that made me start thinking, I love this. This space is beautiful to function at. Lately in my house, they've been putting on this... Smooth. There's a smoother level of on beat. Like Ella May, I think she's the leader of it. Oh, I'm in love. Every day. Her album is incredible. I saw it play right now. She's amazing. Yeah, but I try to tell Dre... You know, Coolin' Dre, you should get in the studio with Dre. I can't wait. And Dre, Dre would know exactly what to give you. I'm dead. But Dre don't know what's going on with Ella May right now. So I hit him up and I was like, yo, Ella May been on my playlist crazy lately. He's like, yeah, Joe, she's nice. I said, no. I said, you haven't heard her new shit. Like she ain't just nice. She's running this shit right now. She's different level. This album. I listened to it on the plane yesterday. She's speaking to my soul. Like she just... It's something about her lyrics. The first day, luckiest man. Like I know Drex. I listened to it in an entire album. I'll get to naming them all, but I love her. I like the 100. 100. But they got a whole new genre of like, peaceful music. It's a whole new... I've been listening to it. I'm telling you, I swear to God. This is a whole... You sit there, they play that bitch on Spotify, whatever. Every wreck is better than the next. You keep going, you're who's that and somebody you never heard of. You go, who's that? Yo, that's somebody. That's it. Yeah. Feel good. Yo, when we gonna hear this wreck it up, but hold on, I wanna... Because y'all fucked me up. Y'all shifted. Y'all did it. I don't think it was us. Growing up. Growing up. Because your dad... A lot of people know you, whatever they... what they call it, Gen Z's, or whatever, what's these young kids called? Gen Z's. They don't know shit about your dad, they just don't. They know about you and your family, unless they come from like, a historical hip hop family that taught them, yo, this is the man. Like, my son. He know about it. You know, just for me, right? When they did the legendary concert where they put up the Adidas, I didn't get to go. My uncle told me he was coming and me and my brother waited in front of that building for hours looking at every headlight that came up, the block, he never came. And so we ain't go. And so the other day, 50th anniversary of hip hop, Yankee Stadium to me was the biggest day of my life. We performed, and then I went to the suite with my family. And your pops came on. That's just it. And I immediately knew the gods are here. Like, this is another level of, like, you know, and you as a kid, what is some of the memorable moments or you know, the moments that you've been in for years or you knew as a kid, like, yo, my father's a superstar. I didn't for a little while. I think after second grade, maybe. Because I'm telling you, like, so for me in school, like, the kids would always, like, Yeah, I guess I kind of remember, like, the kids, the parents of the kids would be like, can we get such, such as your dad? And I'm like, what? It didn't dawn on me. I'm telling you, until I was at a show, and it was one of my dad, we drove the van from New York to somewhere. And we would go to the hotel and then my dad would take us to the show. So we'd be on the side and watch. But there, I seen him throw the mic standing in the audience and I'm like, yo, all these people are very excited to see him. I think it clicked at that moment. Oh, he's like a lot of people know him. You know what I mean? Like, it was the energy in the room. It was the stand on the side with everybody. We don't know, we were so little, but it was like that particular show that I remember driving the van to the show, and I was like, what? And how he was just carrying on and throwing things in the audience. I'm like, oh, he can do that. Like, that's crazy. It was something else. Washington J.M. Master J. Just everything. It was like, we went to a lot of his shows. So when we would be with him, we'd go back and forth to my mom's death house on the weekends we were dead. If he was on the show, we had the show. We were on the side. Not that I think back, I didn't know. It took that show to, like, it clicked. It was like my first shoebag. Really? But I didn't see if it's like changed my life. Did that. It's so dope. I love hearing the stories. You know, I got this one better than anybody. How about that one? I'm in junior high school just to let you know how, you know, I performed, uh, she'll only come out at the end of the show. She'll only come out at 9. Then I sung that at junior high school. Y'all holding together. She's a man eater. I'm just trying to let you know where we at with this, right? Oh, here she goes. Yeah, yeah, Pat Joseph, I'm that shit. And so I sit down. It's like a hundred of us. Well, it seemed more than a hundred. It was like 700. The whole school. And the record at the time was Kumo D Special K. They had that mew, mew, mew, mew, mew. So everybody would come up and do their dance routine. To that. Like, that was the shit. They was running the game. And these three girls, I wish I knew who they were, what they named. They in my school, but I don't know. And that shit came on. Your father's shit. Mmm. One thousand kids. Look at them, because the Bronx ran hip hop. Destroyed, dominated, king. Nobody else lived. Nobody else got to play. Nobody else, like, Bronx was like maybe the first 15 years of hip hop. It was just the Bronx. Like, there was nothing else rocking. Every artist that was popping, Curtis Blow, whoever, everybody was the Bronx. I watched the whole school look at each other and knew it was a new day. Off of one play. When that shit came on, the whole school was like looking at each other like all the ones we were. It was like a rock box. No, rock. I think it was like that. That's the way it is. But when I tell you, the whole school went like this, everybody looked at it together and everybody was like, oh, it's a new day. It's an alien came to Earth. It was a-yaw. It was insane. Like, it was a-yaw. We grew up such hip hop. Uh-huh. From break dance, graffiti, this, this, this, this, this. Like, we was there, there, there. That's so dope. And when that shit played one time, you watched the whole school go. Right, it's the energy of the build-up They just played it. No, but the way it comes on everybody looking at each other like it comes on with it. In one second, everybody just looked at each other and was like, oh, it's a new day. Like, this shit is over. Somebody else owns hip hop off of one play. And they ain't never stopped. They just took the game. That's amazing. Yeah, that shit was like-cause a lot of times we go through stuff, say you, right? Like, you're on a TV show or whatever. Yeah. Y'all wonder what the girl in Philly is thinking. Yeah. All the girl in LA, young girl that can relate to whatever. We all feel like that. Y'all wonder how they like it or how this, this, I actually was there with a thousand fellow Bronx students. And they all was looking like one play. Everybody was like- Wow. I was like, all right, there's some new kings off in one play. My name in D.M.C. is in- It's one and this shit. That's the way it is. Oh, that shit was like- Huh? He got one of them. I used to stay up and I had to put the tissue in the tape and catch him late night and catch the- That's how I used to catch the scoops. That shit was like the best thing. I'll kill you for that tape. This is dope. Me and P was gonna write- Me and P was supposed to do some writing for the rep. Really? He was with us. We in the studio. We was in power. We chillin', we get the beat all out. First we askin' them mad, you know, that we question them. We ask them a million questions. We chillin', you know. Me and Nian, we finish questionin' them. We get the track. Oh, so you questionin' them to know what you're gonna write about? We get the track. We listenin' to the track. We find out how you want us to carve it. Like six o'clock. I don't know what something- I forgot what time came. He looked at his wife. I was church down. He said, oh, he was asleep. He said, I got it. He got up. He gave me a beat. We in the studio. We in the studio. We in the studio. He gave me a beat. We in the studio. I said, nah, I gotta go home. I gotta go to sleep. My dad said, gotta go. I gotta go. There's a set time for sleep with him. I asked you, is everything I am now, I'm good. I'm gonna go to sleep. I don't play with my sleep when I gotta go to- I gotta go. My dad be on his own schedule. He ain't gonna play about his schedule. Whatever he's doing, he's doing. He's talking to me about that. No. That was his name. You know name before one. Was Fat Joe. And fucking, what's a fat Joe? Nobody give a fuck about a fat Joe. You gotta be like, you know what I'm saying? Ain't nobody on the block want to be fat Joe. You gotta be run. He tells me that story. He said, I got mad when you came out. That was my name. He said, yo, that was my name. I was supposed to be fat Joe. I said, yo, I'm gonna leave the flag. Oh, it might be chat. Ask your dad, when you go home, or whatever you speak to. I'm gonna just flash the flag. Fat Joe said you was the first fat Joe. She's gonna confirm it. I ain't throw it. That's what I did. I flashed. That you just showed it. I'm telling you the truth. I ain't gonna lie to you. Just this project, diving into this and pushing this. I'm excited. You really gonna work it. You ain't gonna just frisbee it. This is passion. Yeah, I talked to you behind the scenes. We got some events to show up to. Please come if you're ready. I'm helping to work the record. Thank you. This guy here, Teamwork make the dream work. Yes, Teamwork. One and five and make the steam work. Oh, my God. Do we hear it? Yeah, let's hear it. Playin' nice and loud. You know what we playin'. What you got, folks? Knock it already. Talk to me. Hear me out. I'm a little amazed. It's driving me insane. So tell me what I'm gonna do. I'm fighting temptation. What is it gonna take? Just for me to get a breakthrough. Cause I'm gonna do what amazed. It's driving me insane. So tell me who I run to. Have you ever found yourself trying to find which way to go? Do I go left? Maybe it's right. Have you ever ran from the truth? Have you ever ran from your truth? You can't live a lie. It's time to come about it. It's driving me insane. So tell me what I'm gonna do. I'm fighting temptation. What is it gonna take? Just for me to get a breakthrough. Cause I'm gonna do what amazed. It's driving me insane. So tell me what I'm gonna do. I'm fighting temptation. What is it gonna take? Cause I'm gonna do what amazed. It's driving me insane. So tell me who I run to. I cannot decide. I'm the devil right behind. I'm running through this maze. Trying to bury all the pain. Can you tell me who to run to? Yeah, I'm just doing my thing. Showing the people love. Let not your good be spoken in evil love. I'm fighting fire with fire hoping it evens up. But you blind to the fact that you don't even see the love. At this point the whole ordeal is draining. Consider it a loss. That's if I'm not gaining. I see you trying to force it. But I'm not changing. I'm just looking for a plot. I could bury the pain in. Over there dreaming. Get out of your days. Stop fighting with your demons. Get out of your ways. Some of the pain leaves but a lot of it stays. Say it's sorta like me trying to get out of this maze. What's up? Feel like I'm running through a maze. It's driving me insane. So tell me what I'm gonna do. I'm fighting temptation. What is it gonna take? Just for me to get a breakthrough. Cause I'm running through a maze. It's driving me insane. So tell me who I run to. I cannot decide. But the devil right behind. I'm running through this maze. Trying to bury all the pain. Can you tell me who to run to? We all run from depression. We all run from stress. Sometimes we run in love. Sometimes we run to an addiction. Sometimes... What you run into. They say what you run from you run into. It's time to stop. And face your fears. And stop on there. And be real with yourself. You can't run from this. I cannot decide. But the devil right behind. I'm running through this maze. Trying to bury all the pain. Can you tell me who to run to? Run to... Knock. Yes. That's a vibe. That is definitely a knock right there. That's a vibe right there. That's a knock. What you gotta do is work that. Let's do it. What you gotta do is push that thing and let it... That's a top down song to me. Who's the girl singing? It's nice. Beautiful voice. Your voice sounds good. It's a vibe. Thank you. When you see them go like this... Thank God. Thank God. I'm glad. I'm sure y'all get that. Run to go get that. Put that on that list. I'll be listening to when I'm... Rough Fridays. When I'm doing my graffiti. Rough Fridays. Rough Fridays does it again. You know, we got chapters. We never stop. We love. The rough ride. For life. Shout out to the general. That's it. That's it. Yo, listen. This ain't that. That ain't this. It's cracking kiss. Make some noise for Angel Marin. Naye! Simons! Let me tell you something. Never lose the Simons. God get married to you. You give him the Simons thing. You gotta take the Simons. So I'm gonna add the Simons to my husband's name. Edward Robert Washington Simons. I'm gonna say the Simons. Edward Robert Washington Simons. Edward Robert Washington Simons. Edward Robert Washington Simons. The third. I told my daughter that. I said, yo, you get married. You know, you keep that card of Gina. So you gotta figure it out. They gotta add it. When you get married, you gotta be whatever. Card of Gina. We ain't losing that. If it's breaking, it don't go like that. But we gotta do it. Everything is broken right now. We might as well keep adding it. It ain't broken this shit. If it's broke, keep breaking it. Who gives a fuck? We gotta do it. I gotta pass that. If it's broke, keep breaking it. Yo, listen, man. It was an honor to have you here, man. Thank you. Yeah, yeah. Let's hear that joint. Yes. Thank you for having me. Yes. Hold that. Break. I'm the I.R. Radio app. Hosted by Ludacris. Icon Award recipient, John Mellencamp. Innovator Award recipient, Miley Cyrus. With performances by Alex Warren, Kehlani. Lainey Wilson. Ludacris. Ray. TLC. Salt and pepper. And invoke. Plus, Taylor Swift makes her first award show appearance this year. I cry, I cry, I cry. Elizabeth Taylor. She's happy for real. Also, Gold Medal Olympian, Alyssa Liu. Nio. Nick Colesure Singer. Nikki Glaser. Sombra, Weiser, and more. Watch live on Fox, Thursday, March 26th. Teddy, 7th Central. 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