Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers

TAYLOR TOMLINSON Wants More Sibling Trips

70 min
Feb 24, 2026about 2 months ago
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Summary

Taylor Tomlinson discusses her comedy career, family dynamics, and upcoming Netflix special 'Prodigal Daughter' with hosts Seth and Josh Meyers. The conversation explores sibling relationships, family travel experiences, and the balance between touring comedy and personal life.

Insights
  • Close sibling relationships are outliers—most people don't maintain strong bonds with siblings into adulthood, making intentional family trips increasingly important before life circumstances change
  • High-volume touring (130+ shows annually) requires deliberate lifestyle choices to avoid isolation; comedians must actively seek experiences and community rather than defaulting to hotel rooms
  • Parental figures and mentors (like creative writing teachers) have outsized impact on comedians' careers; recognition of talent combined with accountability for effort shapes long-term success
  • Family material in comedy requires consent and relationship preservation—comedians balance authenticity with protecting relationships, avoiding material that destroys trust for short-term laughs
  • Grief and major life events (parental death) create unexpected family bonding opportunities; children process trauma differently than adults, sometimes allowing for unexpected positive experiences
Trends
Intentional sibling bonding becoming priority for adults in entertainment industry before parenthood changes availabilityComedians leveraging tour schedules as lifestyle opportunities rather than pure work obligations—tourism and cultural experiences integrated into professional travelPodcast collaboration as alternative to traditional creative partnerships for geographically dispersed family membersShift in parenting norms toward delayed smartphone access and increased concern about social media impact on child developmentTouring comedians developing systems (social media managers, recommendation compilations) to maximize local experiences during brief city visitsFamily content in comedy requiring explicit consent and relationship-first ethics rather than pure material extractionTheme parks and family destinations evolving pricing models with premium add-ons (skip-the-line passes) creating tiered access experiences
Topics
Stand-up comedy touring and material developmentSibling relationships and family bonding strategiesWork-life balance for touring performersFamily vacation planning and destination selectionComedy special production and Netflix releasesParental influence on career developmentGrief processing in childhoodPodcast production and co-hosting dynamicsChildren's screen time and smartphone access policiesTheme park experiences and family entertainmentInternational touring and venue logisticsBook writing and manuscript deadlinesTeacher mentorship impact on creative careersFamily material ethics in comedyPersonal data privacy and online safety
Companies
Netflix
Taylor Tomlinson's new comedy special 'Prodigal Daughter' releases on Netflix February 24th
Disneyland
Primary family vacation destination discussed; Taylor visited as child after mother's death via hospice program
The New York Times
Hillary Myers mentioned reading article about French island with artist home in NYT
People
Taylor Tomlinson
Stand-up comedian and guest; discussed comedy career, family dynamics, and upcoming Netflix special
Seth Meyers
Co-host of Family Trips podcast; absent from this episode due to travel
Josh Meyers
Co-host of Family Trips podcast; conducted interview and speed round with Taylor
Hillary Myers
Mother of Seth and Josh; joined intro segment; recognized by podcast listener at grocery store
Bryn Tomlinson
Taylor's sibling; hired as handler/assistant; toured Europe with Taylor for comedy shows
Joe Sullivan
Creative writing teacher who influenced both Seth and Josh's careers; recognized talent and rejected charm
Brooks Whelan
Comedian and opener for Josh Meyers; described as intrepid and adventurous tour companion
Dustin Nickerson
Taylor's best friend; opened for her on multiple comedy tours
Sophie Buddle
Comedian and Taylor's best friend; opened for her on European tour
Quotes
"I'm a huge fan of the pod and I recognized your voice"
Grocery store customer to Hillary MyersEarly in episode
"What am I saving the money for? You're like well I'm saving it for my life and you go well 80 percent of your life is tour"
Taylor TomlinsonMid-episode
"I don't think anyone's like I bet it's crowded at midnight at the waterfall"
Josh MeyersSpeed round section
"How'd you blow it? They were right there. I'm like, that was on a tee for you, bro."
Josh Meyers on sibling closenessEarly discussion
"I'm always competing with your job and the person you're dating and your desire for autonomy. And it's just a lot already."
Taylor Tomlinson on sibling timeMid-episode
Full Transcript
Hey, Tripsters. We got a great episode today, but joining me for the intro to this, which is kind of a teaser for our listener episode coming up later in the week, because Seth is away, Seth is traveling, and so our mother, Hillary Myers, aka Hurry N, aka Mommy Girl, but most often just hurry, is joining me on Thursday and then is also joining me to help intro this episode. Hi, Hurry. Oh, hi, Poshy. You know, on the hurry front, something interesting happened to me at the grocery store. Yeah, please do tell. So I live in that little town, Bedford, New Hampshire, as you well know. And I'm looking through the tomato department and I just am kind of talking to myself and I say, oh, my gosh, these heirlooms look really nice, but they're kind of pricey. And the lady standing next to me says, hurry. And I said, what? and she said you're hurry right and i said yes i'm not generally known by hurry to others it's pretty it's a pretty exclusive group that calls you her yes so she said i'm a huge fan of the pod and i recognized your voice so from talking to tomatoes to yourself my soliloquy with tomatoes but yeah yeah so she recognized not my face not the picture of me but my voice which i did not think was that distinctive but apparently it is yeah well i mean it is to me i know it i know it's you when we talk she knew it too of course she did know that we were that you and seth are from bedford new hampshire so i guess that's what maybe gave part of it away but But you've been you've been recognized in New York City and you've been recognized. But not by my voice. That's right. I guess. Yeah, that's the difference. Yeah. Voice is different. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You don't normally your performances when you go on late night with us for Thanksgiving shows. That's not an audio format. So no, no. Yeah. And I was driving actually to the bank yesterday and there's a big sign. Sherwin Williams, I guess a new paint store is going in there. And it brought back when we were in the audience, my my sisters and I and Seth made the comment, there they are, the geese, their hair is all different shades of Sherman Williams, gray slash white colors. And it's true. No dyes. We don't dye our hair. We just let nature take its course. Yeah. You used to, though, didn't you? Oh, years ago. Yeah. In my 40s. Yeah. Like they called it highlights. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I gave that up. A while ago, a couple of years ago, I'm just teeing this up again for you, but I had said after a Christmas, I think two Christmases ago, I was driving you and Daddy Boy to the airport and I said, look, if there's anywhere you guys want to go that the other one doesn't want to go to, I'll go with you. Yes, I remember that. And the world of family trips and also and, you know, Daddy Boy was just musing and he was like, well, I'd like to do a safari. I want to like go to Africa and do a safari. The last thing on earth I want to do. Precisely, which is why I would go with him. And then yours. Do you remember what you said? What did I say? Now I can't remember. You said, oh, there's like an island off the coast of France and there's just nothing to do. I do remember that. And I mean, I bet it's beautiful. You seem to know what it is and where it is and would love to just get a book. There was some artist that had his home there. I can't remember now, but that's what drew me to it. There was an article in The New York Times about basically that's all there is on the island. There's beautiful gardens. And I don't even think there's a restaurant. But anyhow, yeah, that sounds good to me. I will leave the rhinos and the hippos out of it. Well, yeah, I mean, I think that just sort of goes to show you guys have had a long, happy marriage that continues. But there's there's different differences. There are differences between us. Yeah. So so that offer is still out there if we want to have some smaller family trips. But for today's episode, we have Taylor Tomlinson, who is I don't know if you know her, but she's a fantastic stand up comedian and she's had countless specials. She's in the middle of writing a book, as she and Sufi will discuss. And her newest special, Prodigal Daughter, comes out today. So check that out. And yeah, we're we're big fans here in my house. And we're so delighted that she joined us on the pod. So please enjoy this. And first, enjoy a little Jeff Tweedy. Family chips with the Miles brothers. Family chips with the Miles brothers. Here we go. Hello. Hello. the worst part of a zoom recording where you catch your face at the beginning where you're like hello we would love we would love to use that as the art for the episode thank you for consent that's a great thumbnail just struggling with technology hi taylor hello how are you while how have you been i know i think i did your show in 2021 yeah because there was no your crew it was all on them oh that's right yeah so that was the there was no audience yeah and they were really lovely they seth's crew is a good laughing crew uh i mean if you ever happen to be there for connections it's uh it's a great sort of sort of familial vibe and they are very supportive and good laughers a couple of those cameramen in particular big laughers they row actually are the our biggest laughing cameraman just left for the today show oh no we're all it was a you notice and i'm like yeah no was this show working because of one person one person who just is tickled by everything well maybe he's gonna laugh so much at the today show they'll be like this doesn't work over here yeah they're gonna send it back they're like this isn't the vibe we're looking for they're like we're reviewing some serious books and stuff are you on the road now are you uh or i guess your special is coming out so you're giving yourself a break i i am giving myself a break i have to start doing press and stuff now and i go to new york in a couple weeks but uh yeah i'm not on the road right now uh at the moment how many times did you do uh this hour before you filmed it oh gosh i don't know i didn't count i mean i i usually tour for like a year and a half a year and a half and then i record it do you count the number of shows you do before just because i do i feel like i do a great many uh fewer than you because i'm on the road a lot less so i think like yeah i can i can count like it's like it's more like 40 okay which is not as many as i should well yeah taylor i mean on my little stat sheet it says you did uh i saw you in 2023 at the pantages by the way and it was fantastic oh thank you yeah no my wife and I came down she's a big fan and I get all the alerts of like shows that are coming in so I was there 10 a.m uh sort of like when they release tickets yeah but you did that one 130 times so you must have been traveling oh yeah I was yeah yeah yeah and I think this one I probably did less because I was also hosting after midnight for a lot of the tour so it was naturally a little bit So, you know, we'll see. Maybe this special is not as tight. There should be a disclaimer at the beginning. I was working two jobs. Yeah, exactly. Because if you hate this, you know, it's still my fault. But here's why. But yes, I have a reason. Now, I do want to get back to when you were a child. But when you do 130 shows in a year, are you one of the are you one of those touring comedians who takes advantage of a place you go? Or are you somebody like me who, unless you're dragged out the door by, say, your opener, you just stay in a hotel room all day? I'm going out because I tour so much. Yeah. That at a certain point I realized, like, I think you hit a point where you go, oh, I'm trying not to spend any money on the road, whether that be on meals or hotels or certain, like, the comfort upgrade on a flight. And then you go, what am I saving the money for? you're like well i'm saving it for my life and you go well 80 of your life is tour yeah so that doesn't make as much sense so i really started making an effort a few years ago to like i look stuff up before i go to the city i try to do stuff i i don't ever like eat the thing like you know when you go to a city and everyone's like you gotta get the chili cheese artery clog dog and it'll change your life and you're like well there's a there's a famous chili cheese dog in every city every weekend and if i do that i'll die yeah so i never am able to do that so i'm always looking for like museums and coffee shops and whatever else i always like ask people on instagram for recommendations and then my social media manager who's amazing will compile them for us in like a list. And so then when we wake up on Friday morning with nothing to do and 12 hours to go before the show, we just go, all right, what's within walking distance? And what can we get to quickly? And it's like, well, unfortunately, we got 1,200 is the most mentioned and it's all for the chili cheese artery clogged. I know. And it's right around the block. Yeah. It is a bummer because I will, my favorite kind of tourism is food tourism but if i have a show at night i don't want to eat like i can't enjoy a big lunch yeah and then when a show's over it's like too late to eat a big meal yeah can you go to sleep quickly after a show i ish but not i'm also like for me the difference is like when it's after a show it's like a rare night where i'm not with my like three children So I just feel like it's such valuable time to just do something that I want to do. So like I'll like force myself to stay awake to like watch a movie just because I know like the next night I'll be back with them and have no freedom. Right, right. You really are making parenthood sound awesome. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know I'll be back with them with no freedom. With no freedom because they're little tyrants. Do you tour with the same people? Do you have the same openers the whole time? usually yeah i have like i it was my best friend dustin nickerson for the first couple tours i had he was on pretty much every date and then this last tour was there was like five people that i kind of went to depending on who was available or whatever city it was and um that was actually really fun because then you get more people's like input like i don't know if yeah if like i do you have the same opener or do you yeah i uh do you know brooks whelan yeah yeah yeah okay and Brooks is like, he's very intrepid and very much like, let's go. And then he brings you to very shady places and you escape into your life. But it's where I like that kind of person. Yeah. But he's like, you'll have no freedom tomorrow. We got to go. We got to go. I actually I had a question for you guys because you guys have been doing this podcast for what? A couple of years. Yeah. Yeah. And whose idea was it to work together? And did you guys have any fear about working together? being so close and like rent because i hired one of my siblings yeah i think the fear is that we sign we sound too much alike um yeah to do an audio uh format of anything um but yes it was seth's idea seth you know yeah thinking about doing a podcast and now he has four no just but we i will say one of the things was we had tried uh we collaborated we're attempted to collaborate like on writing things but we're on opposite coasts and it was like really tricky to like find times to like do that kind of creative collaboration whereas like this seemed like the smoothest version where we just each get to be like the authentic versions of ourselves so it's like a lighter lift and a bigger reward which is so rare to find something that's both yeah but was and it's like an excuse to hang out i'm sure yes yeah on separate coasts yeah i mean there was where no one's no one's uh upset there were some you know technical difficulties this morning but as there were seth and i just get to chat for like you know eight minutes which i don't care for the telephone i don't like it we you know we rarely would have a long phone conversation but we come on here like between guests or you know after uh we're done recording we still chat for a little while which is really nice yeah you don't like the phone with anybody i don't i don't like the phone with anyone really yeah neither does our mother yeah although mom and i did talk for like 20 minutes yesterday which was really nice um yeah but our parents usually yeah we'll text but our parents will usually get on the phone together so you're on speaker and it's just not the same um they also will like sort of snipe at each other during those calls. And it's like, maybe let's I'll talk to you each individually. You can tell me the same stories with your own sort of take on it, but you don't need to correct each other in real time if you disagree with. I get so tight when I get so tense when I know my dad started telling me something my mom's already told me because she can't let it go. She's like, I told him. And then he's like, I didn't know. And then I'm just like, it's a real flashback to our youth. yeah taylor yeah where you're just like a bystander for them working out their stuff you have are your you have three you said you hired one of your siblings what did you hire them to do oh my gosh i mean i think at the time i was like i really need an assistant and then it's like they are now like my handler if anything i was like i don't even know if there's that oh yeah i'm like i don't even know if we have a title important enough for you because i finally had somebody that I could go to my team and go, this is also me. If you need an answer to something and Bryn tells you something, that's the same as me giving you an answer on something. And there's been obviously nobody else that I work with that I trust enough to speak on my behalf and make decisions on my behalf and communicate what I would like in any given situation. And it took like a couple years where i was like you know you could come work for me and bren was like yeah maybe and finally when i when i got them to it's like been such a game changer uh for me i i don't know if they like it but i really i really enjoy that i mean i've worked with the same uh you know producer the entirety of my show at late night who is that sort of proxy for me like he has everybody knows that if he says something they don't have to double check with me and it is so nice to eliminate any of that like rubber stamping because it just takes up too much of your time decision fatigue yeah right yeah it's funny i think i don't know how you were because i feel like i mean i i would imagine that you are very detail-oriented based on like the quality of your work but like a talk like being in a talk show it's so funny because i want to all i really want to do is like comedy stuff and like every other question i'm like oh i don't yeah somebody else like who's the expert on this i defer to them yeah like i have no and i have no uh opinion about lighting right just go crazy yeah that's so funny i do have an opinion about lighting because i'm a woman in hollywood but i like i had a lot of opinions about lighting uh but sure other stuff Yeah, I'm like, yeah, it's all you guys. 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She was like, if you need to get in early, you know, that's fine as well. You don't have to ski until four. I was like, I'm probably going to ski till four. But she made that available to me. She was so friendly, so responsive. I got back to the spot. I had a great kitchen, so I didn't have to be going out to dinner every night. I asked her, I was like, hey, I've walked around the property. I don't see this hot tub. And she said it's right out the door from the main bedroom. So I pulled the curtain back and ta-da, hot tub. That was just for me. You love a hot tub. I love a hot tub. And it was great. It was my little home away from home, a perfect spot for me to spend a couple days while I was getting up on the mountain. Perfect location to any of the three sort of base lodges. It was great. And I would stay there again in a heartbeat. That's wonderful. I'm so glad you booked on Airbnb. My friend? Yeah. Well, booking a trip on Airbnb makes for a better trip. You could be traveling with family or looking to discover authentic and local experiences. Airbnb. So three younger siblings, correct? I have three younger siblings, yeah. And we're all two years apart. Is Bryn closest to you? Bryn is closest to me. So Bryn is like, we're like this. And were you always like that? Yeah, we were always like that. We were always like that. And then are the other two close with each other? Yeah, all four of us are really, really close, which have you guys always been close as well? Like growing up too? Yeah, we're two years apart. Yeah, we're two years apart. It's just you two. I was going to ask you this. Do you feel like you make other people feel bad about their relationships with their siblings because yours is so good? Yes. And I think the other crazy thing is I don't, it didn't ever occur to me that we were an outlier. You know what I mean? Like when you're close with your siblings and you're close with your parents, like it seems so natural. And then, uh, it's like the longer you go in life, people like, Oh my God, I will, you know, you, yeah, you're so lucky to have that kind of connection. I'm like, how'd you blow it? They were right there. I'm like, that was on a tee for you, bro. That's so funny. Yeah. We, we have that as well. And also my, my mom's sister had five kids and they were all kind of within a year of us and they're all really close so we really grew up grew up going everybody's siblings are like you know super super close and then you get older and people are like I never speak to my brother you're like oh yeah you know so were the nine of you hanging out all those cousins and all your siblings yeah growing up Yeah. Yeah. We were hanging out growing up. And that was in Temecula. So I grew up in like Stockton, Modesto till I was like nine. And then I was in Temecula after that. Yeah. Gotcha. And Temecula is real. My wife is an equestrian and has shows down there a lot. And it's very it's like wine country, horse country, hot air balloon country. Yeah. Yeah. And then you should leave. And then those are the three. Check them off. What's the shortest amount of time you can do those three things in? Yeah, if you can stack them on a Saturday and be back. If you can get your horse on the hot air balloon to double it up, I highly recommend it. Just bring a bottle of wine and done and done. Done and done. Does Temecula have a theater that you've done stand-up in? Have you ever gone? Or no, it's not that big. Oh, well, I guess that's not true. There's the casino there. Yeah. But I have not done stand-up there because I usually – I do L.A. and San Diego, which are like two hours and one hour away. Right. And also, I don't want to. It's like the teachers I want to come see me, they make the drive to San Diego, you know. And I bet, right. And I think they'd probably rather have a reason to go to San Diego, it sounds like. And that's who I do it for. I do it for them. To give them a reason to get out. uh did you were you close with teachers did you have teachers that you uh that still are sort of engaged with you i have one teacher my creative writing teacher in and i think i also had her for like ap english my junior year but she her name's miss morland shout out uh and she always comes to shows when i'm in town and i still talk to her uh and she's very cool yeah yeah our creative writing teacher mr uh sullivan uh rest in peace but he was uh i mean completely turned my life around genuinely yeah he was incredible uh how so he had that thing where he recognized talent and had no patience for laziness and he would just tell you like that thing of like a teacher actually saying you're are you really gonna blow it like you just you know like are you gonna blow it what a disappointment yeah and uh because i kind of felt like i was charming enough to get away with being a shitty student and he was uh he was not he was immune to my charm right did you and you had him as well i had him as well i remember him like his the things he would write on essays or short stories were always like he was so enthusiastic um he also i remember very specifically, he always said like letters are gifts. When you write someone a letter, you're giving them a gift. It doesn't have to be returned, but you have given someone a gift. And then I just turned 50 and my wife sort of coordinated for all my friends and all my family. She like went through my phone and reached out to people and was like, can you write Josh a letter and like handwrite a letter? And I still haven't gone through all of them. It's like it's almost a month past my birthday because they're all like long they're all very touching and it is like it true they truly are gifts um my father also tried to get away with writing an email and telling my wife to print it out and she was like no larry you hand write this and send it and he was like i don't know if you'll be able to read it but it's like i can read your writing i've it's you're my father i've been reading it my whole life and it is that much more impactful because it is handwritten and it's uh Yeah, sort of. And Joe Sullivan was on the forefront of that. And then we'd see him at Red Sox games and he was just, yeah, great guy. Did you have the same dynamic with him where he was immune to your charms and he was encouraging you? I feel like I was more charming than Seth. I might still be. He was like, you don't have to work hard because your brother. You're good. That's all bullshit. I can't believe I've never said this to a student before, but you can coast. did you and were you uh of the i mean i i don't mean to have you um throw shade on your siblings but were you the funny one growing up no we're all really funny i mean and i think they're like comedian funny i don't think they're just like yeah my siblings are hilarious like i think they are genuinely so so funny um my youngest sister drea i did at one point go you know you could do stand up and then maybe you know we then we go on the road together and she was like no i'm gonna become a professor instead and i was like okay like you think that's important i guess uh but no that like none of them ever showed interest in in stand-up but they all did like drama in high school and they're all very creative and cool and funny and uh definitely are are very supportive of me yeah but i think also keep me humble in a very nice way also it's just helpful to have siblings who are like a trustworthy audience and yes you know don't just love comedy but if they're also funny themselves i feel like i feel like that's a true bounce yes absolutely like before you put out a special do you make josh watch the hour a bunch i send him uh audio recordings yeah there It was one that I sort of, I came to see you do, like, I saw you do San Diego, and then we flew from there up to Vegas. That's right. And I love watching him, but at the same time, I do think of, like, oh, maybe this, maybe this. So, like, you know, I can think in his voice. Also, there's a fair amount of, like, talking about, certainly in the first special, there was a lot of talking about our parents. So, yeah. It's good to fact check, that kind of stuff. It is good to fact check. yeah like i'm working on i'm also i'm working on a book right now and so it's been nice to go back to my siblings and go did this happen and sometimes they're like no yeah that didn't happen i'm working on a book as well is it the hardest thing you've ever done or is it coming to me easy no it's not coming to me easy but it's been kind of up and down yeah we're like they had me turn in like the first 25 000 words you know whatever a year ago and you're like i've got that like here and then after that i was like oh shit for maybe six months and then uh then i got back into a groove but it wasn't like pouring out of me after that it was like i have like do you have a word count you hit yeah yeah and friend you just talked to me like it was like looking in a mirror that first 25 000 of words and i also i turned it in on time which is uncommon for me and my editor they probably told you they made such a big deal about it i bet they were like writers never turn it in on time they never hit the deadline which is the craziest thing to tell you because then you're like oh so there's a huge cushion yeah i'm so ahead of the curve and then cut to me going so for that full manuscript gonna need another three months i'm gonna need to just erase all the goodwill I also I mean again talk about somebody who did not understand how their own life worked but it was during the writer's strike was when I agreed to do it because it made total sense right like I have all this time and then it was like the most I've ever been a parent oh yeah you know what I mean because you know I have my you know my wife my kids are very supportive of what I do but like if you don't leave for an office they're like wait what are you doing like no no no no no talk about not being able to coast on charm you really can't do that no i mean also they don't find me even a little bit charming really they really don't my kids are not at all charmed by me it's the funniest thing because i we walk to school and you know new yorkers are very nice like nobody ever like stops us or slows us down but a lot of times people will be like hey i love the show and they're always like what's that about i'm like daddy works and people like it i don't know what to tell you you're like you've been on the show they're like oh that yeah by the way it's a there's an interesting thing with their appearance on the show which is it they did so well that i can't tell them how much positive feedback they've received you know what i mean like i i'm like oh they i'm gonna try to get away with that just being a positive experience on the day and not inflate their own egos about it but surely they're going to school with kids who have phones who can be like two million views right yeah i mean i'm hoping i'm hoping not we they go to one of those schools where i feel like they're not going to let them have phones till they graduate like they're going to give them a phone during the diplomas oh that's nice yeah yeah they're all sub 10 these kids yeah they're teenagers they're little they're little yeah but people are but people are giving their kids phones at like eight right yeah but then there was this book the anxious generation that came out like a couple years ago a year ago and it's like spun everybody out and i think a pretty positive way where like there's a huge swing to like not let them have phones it's made all the parents more anxious the kids are less anxious the kids are all the time yeah oh gotcha gotcha because how old's your oldest nine nine okay yeah he's mostly and it's all he wants is um a video game system he doesn't care about like social media he just wants to play games all the time okay yeah i'm like do kids care about like instagram and stuff anymore i don't know if they do it it's such a good question i don't know if they do i don't if it helps i don't josh managed to avoid it you're not on social media at all i am because i have to like post about it's fun to do a podcast with a co-host who has no social media footprint it's the worst the worst thing for everyone no it's great it's good you can you can get the word out by mouth yeah just go door to door yeah so uh so i know uh your mom passed away when you were really young and so uh was your dad a funny person yeah my dad was funny my mom was funny like my whole family is pretty funny that's great yeah so i and that's similar to your sibling thing right where you kind of go we're all like your parents too are funny and yeah you're funny and you just go everybody's family is funny right and then you go to a friend's house and their dad you know tries to tries to do something and you're like that's not funny you're not or even the weirder is when you go to people's house and like they're i remember as a kid where like their parents don't even try to be funny it's not even that they're like hacky they're just like humorless they don't even realize that's a way to try yeah yeah um now i can't you're too scary to even like bust on right uh so what did you guys like were you uh the kind of family that would pile into a car and go somewhere um the only place we really went was Disneyland because we grew up in California and uh before my mom died we really didn't have money and when my team was like do you want to do uh Seth and Josh's podcast do you have like family vacation stories and I was like I don know if this is too dark but like hospice sent us to Disneyland after our mom died Is that anything And they were like I mean I don think anyone done that one That true And we still trying to figure out exactly how it happened because I don't know if, like, somebody donated Disneyland tickets to hospice and were like, give this to a grieving family or what. Also, just a real weird vibe to go into a Disneyland trip with. yeah you've just experienced like the worst loss of your life and then you're like so let's get in line for teacups i guess like it's it's it's a weird move uh and i think we'd gone like once before as a family um and then we went we went quite a bit uh when we got older my dad got remarried and then we moved to southern california and then we were like an hour drive away so we never did like a trip again where we stayed overnight nearby but we would like go for the day quite a bit but we didn't really go on trips other than that there were so many of us and it's so expensive so that was kind of all we did as far as trips it's fascinating like there must be a burden as a grieving kid as well to feel like you have to performatively be having a good time at disney world because you know people have like done it to put you in a good mood which must be exhausting that's really interesting because i think we were all really young i mean my youngest sister was two and i was eight and my brother and other sibling were uh four and six so i don't know that we were totally aware of what was going on i mean i was probably the most aware being the oldest and at that time you're kind of like well none of this is real i'm in a film you know all the all the disney movies i've seen the mom's gone so i must be a disney princess like you kind of are just it's all about you and your head and you'll process it for the next 10 years but i don't remember feeling like i had to like make use of the generosity i don't remember going through the front gates like all right turn it on enjoy this but i'm sure i'm sure my dad felt like that probably i'm sure my dad felt like okay we gotta like i can't imagine how hard that was going with four small kids and i think like one of my grandparents came to help out and like a family friend because again it's a lot of us like when we got older and we went to disneyland you could set us loose like that's what's great about a theme park like that is your parents can go and do their own thing or sit at a cafe and you can go get in line what is what do you think the age is where you can let your kids lose to the theme park as i'm considering not there it also probably depends on the theme park right uh so i don't know maybe like i would say like 10 flags it's like 27 28 i was gonna say yeah six flags probably not uh disneyland feels like 10 maybe all right right yeah you think i don't know we still haven't done it you haven't done it no but they haven't like been to any amusement parks ashley elder your eldest has been to the one in amsterdam but other than that i mean i guess your uh father-in-law took them to coney island which is a bit of has kind of it's more like a museum i feel like then but because they haven't been anywhere they loved it so that's good yeah the kids don't have phones haven't been to an amusement park i mean what kind of ship are you running over there they've been on television and their father won't even tell them they did good they won't even show them the numbers i won't show them but they're like what are the numbers they do what your what are your sort of marquee rides at disneyland if you're going with the siblings is there a battle about we're gonna do this we're gonna do this not really because we're all so like we just want to be together and especially as you get older i mean i'm sure you two understand being on separate coasts i mean there's four of us and we're all adults and we're all busy and so getting the four of us together is like an event enough so if if we just walk around we feel like we had a great time we're like we got our steps in we got a coffee we talk shit all day this was the best uh but if we are going to try to go on rides I think it depends on the mood, but like probably the obvious answers. I think like Space Mountain is well, Space Mountain is number one for me. I want to speak for everyone. Sure. I'll listen to this and be like, how dare you? You know, it's pirates. I think, yeah, probably the big ones. But then you don't want to wait in line all day. So you just kind of go in and go, all right, what's going to take the longest? And now Disneyland does the thing where they charge you for a couple of the rides on top of the ticket, which is crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's really wild. Hey, we're going to take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors. Support comes from Marley Spoon. Every year I tell myself I'll get better about meal planning and every year life gets busy and it all falls apart. What finally clicked for me is realizing that meals don't have to look one specific way. They just have to fit into your life. That's what Marley Spoon does really well. What I love is that Marley Spoon actually adapts with you. 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Let's cook with Hexclad's revolutionary cookware. do you make time then to get together with all your siblings like annually do you go somewhere or do you go home uh i don't know where your dad lives now well i'm i'm trying to do more siblings trips trips yeah i'm i'm really trying i was also for a very long time uh not a very long time but like a couple years, I was the only single one. So everybody else had partners. And so I had no partner and the most free time, which means you're the one who's always texting everyone going, hey, who wants to hang out? And I'm the oldest. So I'm also kind of like, I have a parental thing where I feel a little bit like an empty nester sometimes where I'm like always bothering everybody. So I'm like, come spend the night. Come, come on. I have a guest bedroom. I got it so you'd come stay the night and then even when they do come stay the night i'm trying to bribe them to stay for another couple days where i'm like okay do you want a smoothie they're like i needed to leave an hour ago i don't know why this happened the guest room has a lock on the outside and i don't i didn't ask for that no and i called maintenance and they want to fix it but they're on vacation and uh you know but everything could be done over zoom now i think so when you say work i'm kind of like what i just i have wi-fi and but yeah i'm always uh really desperate i feel a little uh needier than they do i think um sometimes because i'm i'm pretty obsessed with them but i this year especially i'm because i am always on tour and that is hard to plan with because you know most people have weekends off and i'm like that's when i'm not only working i'm fully gone but sometimes they'll come out on the road with me I mean Bryn working with me now was like on tour with me for the entire last tour and that was incredible because then we'd run around and do stuff during the day and then they would like help with my show and then also like give me notes on the hour that we'd go over after like just incredible like so much fun um and being on tour you go a lot of places so yeah this year i a big goal for me is like i want to do like multiple siblings trips especially because you know once people start having kids and stuff i just know it's going to get harder so i'm trying to make the most of that pre-kid time and you're not going to want to hang out with them anymore once they have well you know what's funny is drea was talking to me the other day and she goes because i don't know that i'm gonna have kids But I'm, you know, I'm excited to be an aunt and stuff. Andrea goes, well, aren't you excited for us to have kids, you know, and meet our kids and hang out with them? And I was like, yes, but also I'm going to have to compete with your kids for your time. And I'm already competing with your job and the person you're dating and your desire for autonomy. And it's just a lot already. and so i don't know andrea was like you're you're competing with the kids we haven't had yet like are you okay and i was like oh i'm sorry i thought we were having an open and honest dialogue about our feelings but yeah no i'm excited uh you know every year for thanksgiving that was the show my kids were on uh also my brother and my parents are the guests every year live and we pre-taped the kids and so josh was backstage with my parents uh both of whom were like oh thunder stolen i was gonna say i was gonna ask like obviously kids aren't checking the numbers josh are you checking the numbers i mean going yeah i mean they they hit pretty hot and then we had to come out after them i think like following them was a bit of a uh you know shot across the bow so they uh we i will say that it's always our thanksgiving show is on after mbc has a thanksgiving football game so it's historically our highest rated show of the year only because it's on after a football game it's just full lead-in math and yet my parents know that it's the highest rated show of the year so as far as checking the numbers they are acutely aware of how good the numbers are they're like look they could turn it off and as a matter of fact you know it's they've been watching tv all day so it's kind of it's a big deal that they keep it on with all that yeah turkey in their belly do you how does your family feel about uh material because obviously that's something that's been in your act for a long time are they all cool with it uh i mean it depends on the material i've definitely run material by like i remember i ran a joke past my grandma once about something she had said and she thought about it for a couple days and was like actually i'd prefer you didn't and it wasn't anything terrible it was just you know people don't necessarily want you to talk about the things they said in private and i have never felt like it was worth uh destroying a relationship with somebody close to me whether that be friend partner or family member right for like whatever 90 seconds of laughs no matter how many tags there are but it's you know it really just does depend on the the situation like i did jokes about my in the special that's coming out um the there's a bit i do about my uncle who's a pastor and i actually didn't run those jokes by him which maybe i should have but they were so positive about him that i didn't think i needed to and he he's never told me he didn't like them he's been like right supportive and sweet about it and i think he was like those are nice things thank you for saying that um so i don't worry about it if i'm saying nice things but certainly like jokes about my siblings too like in years past i've been like hey like this isn't a mean joke about you but it does contain information about you and maybe you don't want that out there right like maybe you don't just i don't know some people just don't want to be talked about publicly um but they've always been really cool and i i don't know that there's anything my siblings have said hey don't say that on stage actually i mean it's great i mean your instinct to because by the way i don't think it would destroy the relationship with your grandmother right but like even even just to put have any negativity it's like just a better idea not to yeah also like my grandparents are religious and i'm not and i'm already uh probably straining uh our relationship by swearing so much talking about uh they're like we're working a lot on your other material yeah exactly we'd like you to cut some stuff but it has nothing to do with us yeah we just think you're coming off a little a little were your grandparents local to you or did you travel to them when you were younger they were local to us when i was up in like stockton modesto so i grew up till i was like five we lived like next door to them okay and then we were like 20 minutes from them and then when we moved to southern california that was actually the other the other place we went and we went like every school break my my dad and my stepmom would drive us like halfway they would meet my grandparents halfway uh so everyone would drive like two and a half hours and then we'd meet at a travel center and we would all pile into my grandparents' car. And then we would drive to their house and stay for like a week. And then we would do the same thing a week later. How was, what was a week like at your grandparents' house? What kind of life was that? The best. I mean, cause they live in like a rural area. So it was like, just like a lot of time outside and we'd, you know, go to thrift stores and bookstores and just like watch movies and hang out with our cousins and be dumb and now as an adult it's like so hard to get the four of us to be able to go for even like two days like we did it recently actually where the four of us after like months of trying were able to go up and see them and it was like okay we have two days to to get in there and do this and of course like it's during the holidays and people are sick and work is tough. And so it just it a struggle always but it like it just always makes me feel like we you know teenagers again I would imagine it means the world to your grandparents as well Yeah I hope so I mean I try to go and see them like as much as possible And again, I tour. So I'm like in Sacramento, San Francisco. I'm everywhere all the time. So it's much easier for me to like stop by even if it's just for like a night. and to me it feels like home so it's like i saw them uh a couple weeks ago and just like went on the way to something else and just like hung out with them for the night and like got there made tea was like i'm gonna make eggs like just very very much like home on college break when you're all there are you a game playing family are you a conversation family like what's your if you're sitting around in the living room what's the you tv watching family i think we're more conversation and movies or we'll talk through movies that we've seen like last time we were there we watched uh ever after which was a lot of like us going oh i forgot about this part and like oh this is the part we always quoted as kids and like you i don't know if you guys had movies like that where you would remember certain lines and then you say them as an inside joke so many times for years that you forget they're from a movie. And then later you see them and you go, oh, we didn't come up with that. I thought that was just us. But we were quoting this. So we do a lot of that. And I think we do play games sometimes. But I mean, there were a few years where like, you know, apples to apples was really big. Yeah, that was a good one. For a few years there. Yeah. My father-in-law and my brother-in-law say, all righty then, all the time. And I heard one of them go, when did we first started saying that? And I'm like, when you saw Ace Ventura? Who coined that? Did we coin that? Are we? And then when do we get our coins? Yeah. We're not even quoting comedies. We're quoting Ever After. we're quoting yeah we're quoting the child who's playing young drew barrymore go yelling it's tradition like that's what we're we're quoting my wife loves the movie legend more than anything else and like she puts it on when her dad her dad was just here uh for my wife's birthday and like that man has had to watch legend so many times and you can see he just sort of glosses over and uh i say it's a terrible movie my wife will hate me for saying this but uh but she just loves it so much it on for him she's putting it on for her and she's putting it on to sort of feel that like i'm i'm here with my dad on a couch watching a movie and it's like as a birthday thing uh you know who's not gonna she misses forcing him to do something he doesn't want to do that's what it is yeah that's what are you not what are you not into i hope when i'm you know on my deathbed my daughter will come in and be like i'm gonna just watch a peppa pig over here so that the last thing you can hear is that infernal theme song have you had any uh sort of standout sibling trips that you have managed to take with just the four of you or with uh partners as well oh gosh a standout sibling trip i mean again being on tour is so unfair because like i was in like europe and the uk doing shows over the summer and we were gone for like five weeks and it was me my sibling bryn and sophie buttle who's a very funny comic and one of my best friends who opens for me and so it was just the the three of us like running around Europe for a month and a half and I like left days in between I learned the first time that I did some international touring like okay for sleep purposes and also so that you can actually go out and do things and you're not just going from like the airport to the show back to the airport to a train uh you need to like leave some room in between cities so like we got to copenhagen a few days early because we'd never been and like got used to the sleep schedule and ran around and did everything we wanted to do and then did the show and then went to amsterdam and like it was so so fun and the shows were great too but the fact that we got to do this like massive insane trip that was uh paid for by my dumb ass jokes was like crazy are you good with venue memory do you know where you played in amsterdam uh i you know what i wasn't even in amsterdam i was in rotterdam gotcha so that's and i i don't remember why i think maybe the venue was like bigger or something there was a reason why my agents were like you have to do this but it's rotterdam was like 45 minutes away so i'm like i still want to stay in amsterdam no offense to rotterdam but i was like we'll stay in amsterdam we'll run around and then we'll just go to the show and come back to amsterdam what was your favorite uh european city from last summer's tour oh gosh i mean it was also like during that heat wave so we were like and a lot of venues didn't have ac so i remember different things like i remember when we did uh when i was in sweden that that room had ac and so the show i have no idea how it went i just remember i was very comfortable on stage and then we went to i think our last stop was helsinki uh and i'd like never been to finland before i didn't know what to expect And so to do like multiple shows and those crowds were amazing. But the venue was so hot. I was so I always wear a jacket on stage and I couldn't. Yeah. Over there. I was like wearing just the thinnest shirt you could find and still just like drenched in sweat afterward. I mean, there was one night I think I I cut some jokes because I was like, I'm going to pass out. Of course, the audience is fine because of sauna culture. So like, even they were like, they were they were fanning themselves. And at a certain point you go, oh, I don't that this. I don't think that's them. Like, that's not from the jokes. That's not them. Like, you know, nobody's I don't hear any. That's your that's what your grandmother does. She has to fan herself. Yes. She's like, oh, dear. Yes, exactly. We're talking religion again, are we? It's very triggering is what I'm saying. I'm so excited for Prodigal Daughter. It comes out on Netflix February 24th. And it's so great to talk to you again. It's been too long. Yeah, it's so good to talk to you. You had, I just want to say, a fantastic run with After Midnight. Thank you. It's not what it was. It's a different one. Yeah, it's slightly, slightly different. But it was a great show. And it was amazing. What a great job you did bringing on so many great new comedians. A lot of the younger comedians that I know now were because they were panelists on that show, which is awesome. Oh, that's great. Yeah, we had. I mean, our our bookers were so good and there were so many people on that I hadn't seen in forever that I'd like, you know, come up in the clubs with. Or there were comedians that I didn't know personally that I got to meet or like ones I was introduced to as well. um and you know it was you get really spoiled uh i'm sure you feel similarly like you you get really spoiled going to work where the whole point is for everyone you're interacting with to be their most entertaining sparkly selves and they just come when they come to see you you're like oh my god yeah this is so nice yeah and they like make you laugh and then you have to go back to just like normal life. And you're like, oh, man, this is not sustainable. I can't be I can't be this entertained all the time. I'll I'll become a monster. Before we let you go, Josh is going to hit you with our speed round. OK, I'm ready. All right. Here we go. You can only pick one of these. Is your ideal vacation relaxing, adventurous or educational? Oh, I think right now, because I haven't been on tour and I'm bored, adventurous. What is your favorite means of transportation? I like a train. If you could take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fictional, other than your own family, what family would you like to take a vacation with? Ooh, family as a whole? Yeah. Ooh, that's tough. I'm going to say Lorelai Gilmore from Gilmore Girls. All right, great. Good one. I don't know if we've gotten that one before. That's why I went with it. Has anyone said this one? I mean, I think I think there's probably a lot of agreement from our listeners. Right. First, first Disney World paid for by hospice. First Gilmore. Yes. If you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be? Oh, I shouldn't answer this quickly because I have three siblings, but Bran. Yeah. All right. We all we were going to say, if you had to say, it was pretty clear to us. What is your dream destination for a family vacation? I would really like the four of us to go to London together or Japan because I haven't been to Japan yet. So those are my two right now. All right, great. And your hometown, is it Stockton, Modesto, Temecula? Where are you from? That's the thing. I probably should say Temecula because it's most recent, but I don't want to. OK, well, this is good then, because if you had to get more families to come visit Temecula, you're the head of the Board of Tourism down there. How would you pitch it? No, I mean, they don't have to know your real thoughts on it, but. I mean, I think the the wine country balloon horse. Trio is probably. Yeah, that's probably the best. But I will say, I think the public library there is really good. There you go. And I went back there to when I was stuck on the book. I went back to Temecula for a day just to, like, shake some childhood memories loose. And I went to that library to write for a few hours. And it was packed. There were so many people in there. Yeah, it was really cool. And then there's like Old Town Temecula, which is like a strip of like, you know, shops and bars and restaurants and stuff like they've got like a rooftop bar and restaurant there now, which like overlooks the freeway. I'm like, this is you guys, what are we doing out here? Who do we think we are in Temecula? We're doing a rooftop bar, but good for them. And I get, yeah, people like the casino, I think. I'm really selling it. You really are. I'm really selling it hard. I mean, watch their numbers. Their numbers are going to spike. But of the three of Modesto, Stockton and Temecula, Temecula is the easiest one to sell, probably. Here's what I always say about Temecula. I think that if I was there for a weekend of shows and I wasn't from there or anything, it would be a great weekend of shows for me. Like it would there would be plenty of stuff to do during the day to fill up three days in that city. All right. And then Seth has our final questions. Taylor, have you been to the Grand Canyon? I haven't been to the Grand Canyon, but I've been to Niagara Falls. OK, that's a different place. I know it's a different place. But it feels you know what? It feels similar in that it's somewhere that everyone's always like, does it live up to the hype? which I assume is the point of the Grand Canyon question, right? But what was your take on Niagara Falls this far? I loved it. Yeah. I saw it from every angle. You can buy a ticket to every angle of Niagara Falls. I mean, we didn't go on the boat because that seems crazy. Yeah. But you can go on the boat. You can see it from like underneath. You can see it from above. I like walking to Canada. Yes. Oh, you got to do the Canadian side. The Canadian side is superior. Uh, but I really thought it was amazing. It was, you can go back at night and they project lights onto the falls. So I, now I went during the day before my show, then I went and did my show after the show. I said, guess where we're all going back to Niagara falls. You still had that pass. You got that all, all angle pass. Yeah. Went back. Also, nobody's there at midnight. Yeah. Hot tip. No one's there at midnight and it's all lit up. all right it's so funny i feel like that's a hot tip that no one needed i don't think anybody's like i bet it's crowded at midnight i bet the waterfall is crowded at midnight i here's what i like about niagara falls vis-a-vis the grand canyon and you really put that into focus for me is i feel like you can do all of niagara falls in one trip and there's no like the grand canyon i think you know canyon heads like josh are always like oh there's so much of the canyon left to see and I'm just like I don't have time for that I don't want the rest of my life to be trying to go into every nook and cranny of a canyon have you camped at the canyon no but it's uh yeah my my wife is uh trying to secure us uh a camping spot at the bottom at the phantom ranch which is like yeah this place that you can camp yeah hard I mean yeah tough tough campsites to get so but it's on my list it's on our list I'm team falls with Taylor uh it's so great talking to you thanks for making time for us it's lovely to see you again so good to see you so nice to meet you josh thank you so much for having me on you guys are lovely all right great good luck with the special thank you guitar solo Thank you. 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