This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. of two. Listen to Stuff to Blow Your Mind on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On the Look Back at It podcast. 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84 was big to me. I'm Sam Jay. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it with our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. 84 was a wild, I mean, it was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to Look Back At It on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, what's good, y'all? You're listening to Learn the Hard Way with your favorite therapist and host, Keir Gaines. This space is about black men's experiences, having honest conversations that it's really not safe to have anywhere, but you're having them with a licensed professional who knows what he's doing. How many men carry a suit of armor? It signals to the world that you're not to be played with. And just because you have the capability that does not mean that you need to. Listen and learn the hard way on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. And welcome back to Coast to Coast. George Norrie with you, spiritual medium and author Carol Obley helps and has done readings for more than 16,000 groups and individuals for three decades. She also does grief support and teachings about the afterlife Carol also regularly delivers specific practical guidance and readings about a wide variety of life issues, including relationships, business, and spirituality. Her latest book is called The Art of Sensing. Carol, welcome back. How have you been? Good evening, George. Doing well. Thank you. How did you get involved in mediumship? I was running a business and I've written about this in my books actually. It burned to the ground and I was left really directionless in life, had no clue what I was going to do after losing this business. And by a series of synchronicities, I came on to the pathway by a lovely soul who's no longer with us it was a friend of mine actually uh killed in a car wreck on her way to my house uh so it was quite devastating but she was a catalyst for me and uh i'm sure many listeners know about things maybe not with mediumship but catalysts of different people and events in their lives. And that's exactly what happened to me. Grief is not easy, Carol. It sure isn't. It's something we all share, though. We're all going to lose someone, a person or perhaps a beloved pet at some time in our life. and people have to understand that grief is a normal human reaction to loss and how we navigate through that depends upon our own spiritual consciousness and that's part of what I feel that my purpose is is to help people understand to not be afraid and to know that the bond of love, and I'm sure many other mediums have discussed this too, but that bond of love is eternal, and it's never destroyed through death. What did you learn about the death situation that you didn't know before you got into this? i had no idea what happened to us our the real us meaning our soul after we left this physical plane uh you know i grew up in traditional religion and was told you know when we go to heaven and Maybe we sit on the clouds and play harps with angels. And I believed that, you know, for a while, for a long time, until I started reading, like many people, I started with the writings and the readings of Edgar Cayce. And from there, I read voluminously to discover, I couldn't get enough, George. I had this unquenchable thirst for metaphysics and the paranormal. And even as a child, I had that. So then in my 30s, that's when that business burned. And I, you know, became very interested after I got to a metaphysical center that my friend, the catalyst, took me to. And so I read everything that I could get my hands on. And I'm dating myself with this one. I listened to a lot of cassette tapes of different spiritual teachers. and of course meditation and uh you know sitting with the group in meditation and shared visions that we would have and so everything really took off from there and it completely completely transformed me i when i look back on the person that i was before starting this work It like another lifetime I was completely different completely lost in life And stepping onto this pathway was hugely transformative for me. Since you've been doing it, do you have any regrets? Yeah, that I didn't start sooner. um that's that's about the only regret that i have but in the interest of being transparent which i always am in every all media and my books and you know when i work with clients i've wanted to quit many times um i became discouraged that you know through my personal development of mediumship and it's a long road it's a very long road and you cannot take a weekend workshop and you know hang out a sign that you're a professional medium and so I went through a lot of training and a lot of training was on the job so to speak and I would become very discouraged and if it weren't for a particularly good friend um that i have uh i would have quit a long time ago but she encouraged me were you too hard on yourself uh i believe so i believe that's accurate uh i also expected that just you know right away i would be seeing things through clairvoyance and uh you know knowing everything immediately when i sat down with an individual uh i did open very quickly though uh by taking training at a place called delphi and that's near atlanta georgia and within a week's time i could sit with strangers and tell them things about themselves we were tested before we left i could tell them things about themselves that I would have no way of knowing. Now, mediumship or connection with souls who have left the physical realm was not immediate for me. I was doing things like, I say, the big two, relationships and work, and that's how I really started. And using the tarot, the 78-card deck of images by Pamela Coleman-Smith, who is an excellent artist. That really helped me open up as well. The images really spoke to me. And I had a strange phenomenon, George, when I started that. I would look at a card, and then, of course, the cards all have meanings. But I would start to receive impressions about the person I was reading, you know, the recipient of the reading, about their loved ones who were deceased. Wow. And, you know, that's one of the ways that this whole phenomena opened up for me. Were you a medium prior to that or is what got you into that? Oh, I've been a medium before this lifetime. I'm pretty convinced of that. One of the places for me personally was in Egypt. you know I've done I've had a regression and I went back some of the lifetimes were not pleasant because there was persecution so yeah I was born with the ability I've also studied my birth chart I've studied many years of astrology particularly karmic astrology or the soul's journey in the physical plane And so you can see right in my natal chart that I was born with a predisposition to be highly sensitive. And I know you're going to want some after hearing this. This is an amazing story. We've got Stephen and Malachi Gregory in Nelson, New Zealand. I understand that Malachi, who's eight, almost nine years old now, was suffering with not just one or two warts, but I mean, a significant outbreak of warts all over his body. So significant, it impacted his ability to really function. Yeah, he was having trouble even holding a pencil to write. It was Ty's book, actually, that got me thinking about it. I'm not surprised. It is an amazing immunomodulator. And so I can see that it would work. And so at what point did you see that there was actually improvement? It's really going to work. Well, look, we really started to notice it around 12 weeks. You can see these things actually getting smaller and smaller. And then going down to where they're just little red marks, the whole things are gone. And we're talking about one the size of a walnut. I thought, no way that's going to. Wow. It's just been miraculous. To see him get into a pair of shoes. Yes. How wonderful. It's great to see him so happy and confident. Absolutely wonderful. For friends that have seen it, they're just blown away. Ty, this is awesome. Yeah, this is awesome. Another amazing story. Why? We're talking about Carnivora. Call them to awaken your immune system and protect yourself now. Call 1-866-836-8735. That's 1-866-836-8735. Or visit Carnivora.com. C-A-R-N-I-V-O-R-A. Carnivora.com. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Do you remember when Diana Ross double tapped Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people? I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back At It podcast. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill waxing all about crack in the 80s. to be clear 84 is big to me not just because of crack i'm down to talk about crack all day but yeah yeah but just so y'all know i mean at this point mark this is the second episode where we've discussed crack so i'm starting to see that there a through line we also have aids on the table right now so thank you for finishing that sentence and yes i don think there a more important year for black people Really Yeah For me it one of the most important years for Black people in American history Listen to Look Back at It on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, this is Robert from the Stuff to Blow Your Mind podcast. Joe and I are both lifelong Star Wars fans, so we're celebrating May the 4th with a brand new week of fun, thought-provoking Star Wars-related episodes. Join us as we tackle science and culture topics from a galaxy far, far away, such as the biology of tauntauns and wampas on the ice planet Hot, or the practicality and corporate business sense of the Sith Rule of Two. Listen to Stuff to Blow Your Mind on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My mother-in-law spent years sabotaging our relationship until karma made her pay for it. Wait a minute, Dakota. How bad did it get? Well, it got bad enough that her son-in-law had to eventually arrest her himself. She moved in for two weeks, lasted for five. She left nail clippings in the bathtub, candy stuck to the furniture, and then she pressed her ear against the bedroom door and burst in screaming. She did not burst in while they were... She did. They kicked her out and paid for her hotel, and they thought, it's finally over. Days later, she called her son-in-law at work, claiming that his partner had been in some kind of freak accident and had been rushed to the hospital in an ambulance. He called every hospital in the city, and his partner was making coffee the entire time. She faked a medical emergency just to test whether or not he loved her son? Yeah, and she sat in the hospital parking lot waiting for him to see if he would show up. When that didn't work, she walked into the son-in-law's police station and filed a kidnapping report against him. She filed a kidnapping report against him in his own police station? And spoilers, karma's gonna show up in the best way possible. So if you want to hear how this story ends, search OK Storytime on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you're listening to podcasts. I think it's chapter two of your book, I'm Still With You, Death, A Beginning. You talk about the soul experience after death. Explain to us, if you can, Carol, what the soul really is. I'm going to give you a shortened, condensed version of that. the soul is spirit. You can call that anything you want. You can call it the divine. You can call it God. Whatever term you give it, it's all the same energy. And the soul is an individuated form of God. And so being that, the soul has that power of spirit, of God. And it takes a while for us to detach from the rational part of us, the physical brain, which to me is a step-down unit. It really has no power on its own, our physical mind. But the soul is that. The soul is divine. And that is why the soul will never perish. It is eternal. And it's, you know, the consciousness of that high frequency that we call God. When this was all put together spiritually, what was the rationale for the spirit world and the physical world? Two different things. George, you always ask me very interesting questions. I do. You let them arise organically, which is the way I love to do interviews. So when you put things together, I mean, you know, the plane of the spirit world is right here. I always tell people that. I've talked about that many times. It's not a place. And by the way, there are many, many levels to it. Those who are familiar with the Christian Bible remember Christ saying, in my father's house there are many mansions. What I believe he was referring to there, and other people believe, was the various levels of the spirit world. now the closer in density or frequency or vibration that you come to the earth the less light there is and i mean really physical light and that is those planes are relatively dense in comparison to the higher planes and the higher up that you go in terms of frequency, which is also consciousness, the more light there is. And there are beings who exist on those levels. And the important thing to remember too, is that we can't really go above the level of our own consciousness. Those above us can descend. They can come into our level of consciousness. But it's impossible for us to go to the higher levels because we're not matching that in frequency. Have you ever gotten to a situation, Carol, where someone is soulless? And I see that particularly on social media of all things. What a surprise, right? Yeah. I see that a lot. And I mean, I observe it. And have I spoken to anybody who I feel is absolutely soulless? I would have to say probably no. But I have observed it and I see that it's much more prevalent today in our world than before. So soulless people do exist. Well, I mean, you can say that the soul is there. The soul is always present because that's what animates the body. If you take the soul out of the body, what do you have? you have death So it not that the soul is not there but there a very high level of disconnect by choice from the consciousness of the soul and that's a difference. So it's present, but the individual has chosen to disconnect from that consciousness. It is remarkable how it all functions, isn't it? It blows me away every day. Does any of it scare you? Yes, but not to the point where I'm frozen in fear, because the number one way that we come out of this, I call it the spirit mind, George, the spirit mind. The number one way we come out of that and disconnect to it really is through that thing that we call fear. You know, we give in to fear because we all know that in one form, it doesn't matter what form fear takes. It's paralyzing. And, you know, we can remain stuck. Fear of change. We can, you know, remain on, you know, not spiritually evolving. for fear of leaving something that's very comfortable to us. If I leave that, then my whole life is going to change. So I would say that fear is exceptionally prevalent right now in our world. Fear of the unknown. Does the soul create the personality or does the personality create the soul? The soul, in my experience and everything that I share in my writings and in interviews, is what I've personally experienced through three decades of doing readings for people. the soul chooses the personality prior to coming here. And so you might ask, why? Because the soul needs to advance itself through the personality. And the mistake that we make as human beings is that we tend to elevate the personality above the soul and we make the soul a servant so to speak of the personality when really it should be the opposite so the personality is not bad whatsoever it's very much needed uh but upon death the personality dissolves so you know why then you know when i'm doing a reading, am I able to sense the personality that that soul had? Because when that soul returns, lowers its consciousness to be able to blend with me as a medium, I become aware of the totality or the complete repertoire of that soul's consciousness. But it's not all at once. It's sort of drop by drop. And that's how mediumship occurs. But does the soul create the personality of the individual? I would say yes. It's given a selection. Are we going to choose this particular personality? You know, say one that's happy and jubilant and joyful, or are we going to choose one that may have a bit of a predisposition to something like depression or maybe a mental illness? Why would anyone choose that? Well, you know, something relatively painful or distressing, we wouldn't on a conscious level. But the soul's perspective and awareness is radically different than the personalities and the rational brain. So we get to choose that. And the reason for that is, is to advance spiritually. That's the only reason that we're here, here meaning in the physical realm. Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at 1 a.m. Eastern and go to coasttocoastam.com for more. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, this is Robert from the Stuff to Blow Your Mind podcast. Joe and I are both lifelong Star Wars fans, so we're celebrating May the 4th with a brand new week of fun, thought-provoking Star Wars-related episodes. Join us as we tackle science and culture topics from a galaxy far, far away, such as the biology of tauntauns and wampas on the ice planet Hoth, or the practicality and corporate business sense of the Sith Rule of Two. Listen to Stuff to Blow Your Mind on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On the Look Back at It podcast. 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84 was big to me. I'm Sam Jay. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors. Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. 84 was a wild year. It was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to Look Back At It on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. not mean that you need to. Listen to Learn the Hard Way on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.