What's Your Story? with Steph McMahon

What Do You Wanna Talk About? - Liv Morgan

65 min
Apr 23, 20265 days ago
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Summary

Liv Morgan appears as a guest on the first-ever live episode of "What's Your Story?" with Steph McMahon, recorded at an Eight Cigar Bar. The conversation covers her journey to WrestleMania 42, her recent music video release, the importance of being present in the moment, and her deep gratitude for WWE and her fans.

Insights
  • Authenticity and presence matter more than perfection—Liv's philosophy of letting fans form their own opinions without explanation resonates with audiences and builds genuine loyalty
  • Career resilience comes from support systems—Liv credits her best friend Raquel and her mother's work ethic as foundational to overcoming injury and setbacks
  • Gratitude-driven work ethic attracts opportunities—Liv's approach of being available and saying yes to projects (music video, live events) has led to unexpected blessings rather than forced pursuits
  • The transition from seeking to receiving requires mindset shift—Liv's injury forced her to stop chasing and start being present, which paradoxically opened more doors
  • Wrestler development requires both fundamentals and psychology—Discussion of training methods, producer relationships, and learning from veterans shows the multi-layered skill development needed
Trends
WWE talent expanding into music and entertainment—Liv's music video and Paper Magazine cover reflect broader trend of wrestlers becoming multimedia personalitiesLive podcast experiences as fan engagement—First live episode of podcast format shows WWE's investment in direct fan connection beyond traditional broadcastsMental health and vulnerability in professional wrestling—Open discussion of injury recovery, emotional struggles, and support systems normalizes mental wellness in the industryGratitude-based motivation over external validation—Shift from chasing accolades to appreciating opportunities reflects evolving mindset in high-performance environmentsProducer-talent collaboration as creative partnership—Emphasis on working with multiple producers and learning different approaches suggests evolution from hierarchical to collaborative trainingFan loyalty transcending performance outcomes—Liv's fans remained engaged during stagnant periods, indicating deeper parasocial connection beyond in-ring performanceWomen's wrestling championship parity—Multiple references to women's world championships and main event WrestleMania matches show continued elevation of women's division
Topics
WrestleMania 42 Women's World Championship MatchMusic Video Production and Artist DevelopmentInjury Recovery and Mental ResilienceWWE Producer Relationships and Training MethodsFan Loyalty and Community BuildingBeing Present vs. Chasing SuccessWomen's Wrestling Career ProgressionRoyal Rumble Victory and Championship OpportunitiesLive Event Production and Fan EngagementProfessional Wrestling Psychology and FundamentalsGratitude-Based Work EthicPaper Magazine Feature and Media ExpansionWWE Talent Relations and Career DevelopmentCigar Culture and Lifestyle BrandingPodcast as Direct Fan Communication
Companies
WWE
Primary employer and subject of discussion; Liv Morgan is a WWE wrestler competing at WrestleMania 42
Fanatics
Producer of the podcast and WWE content; mentioned as original production partner for the show
Paper Magazine
Published feature on Liv Morgan; represents her expansion into mainstream media and entertainment
Eight Cigar Bar and Lounge
Venue for the first live episode of the podcast; also location where Cigar Aficionado cover was shot
Morgan and Morgan
Injury law firm sponsor; mentioned in context of legal services for injury cases
People
Liv Morgan
Guest on the podcast; discussing her journey to WrestleMania 42 and career development
Steph McMahon
Host of 'What's Your Story?' podcast; conducting interview with Liv Morgan
Craig Schuster
Runs the podcast; acknowledged as part of the production team for the live event
Raquel Rodriguez
Liv's best friend and tag team partner; credited with helping Liv through injury recovery
Dominic Mysterio
Liv's on-screen associate; discussed as someone Liv admires and considers a favorite wrestler
Triple H
Previous podcast guest; discussed mentorship and presence in moments with Liv
TJ Wilson
Liv's favorite producer; provides feedback on her work and trains talent at the Dungeon
Shawn Michaels
Discussed as wrestling influence and source of career advice about presence and confidence
John Cena
Mentioned as hosting WrestleMania 42; discussed his music career and album release
Zach
Acknowledged for helping coordinate talent and appearances; called 'GOAT' by Liv
Carla
Coordinates on-location events and live podcast experiences
Stephanie McMahon
Liv's opponent at WrestleMania 42; discussed as someone Liv wants to defeat on her own
Ronda Rousey
Liv cashed in Money in the Bank briefcase against Rousey to win her first championship
Molly Holly
Producer known for giving direct feedback and constructive criticism to talent
Abyss
Producer who is emotionally invested in matches; creates engaging production experiences
Davari
Gave Liv her first hard-way blade job at her first live event; respected for his work
Quotes
"I feel like I don't really feel the need to explain myself. I guess not in a rude way. I know that sounds like really cold. But you guys are entitled to your opinions."
Liv MorganEarly in interview
"Sister, I feel like when you feel like you have no faith is when you're supposed to have the most."
Raquel Rodriguez (via Liv's recollection)During injury recovery discussion
"I'm not seeking anything and not that I'm not like hungry or wanting more, but I'm just gonna let the blessings come to me versus like pushing and wanting and hoping."
Liv MorganDiscussing post-injury mindset
"There's nothing I wouldn't do in return. Like I feel like there's nothing I can do to show my appreciation or my gratefulness or like just my love for WWE and what it's given me."
Liv MorganOn gratitude and work ethic
"I just feel like I truly appreciate... they stand ten toes down for me. Yeah, no matter what I do."
Liv MorganDiscussing fan loyalty
Full Transcript
I Want to go obviously the first question I'm gonna ask you you guys ready for WrestleMania 42 Well, you might be more ready than I am We just got it back by the way the WWE championship is here Hey, hey, oh, thank you. I love you, too Appreciate it. This is history as well. I shot a few people out I don't know where he's at out here, but this is the first time we have ever done. What do you want to talk about? Live so you guys are all part of history Was he at that man right there? That's Craig Schuster stand up Craig stand up Craig runs this podcast there is Our Do you mind we are in the wonderful eight cigar bar in lounge This is where we shot the cigar aficionado cover. So if people are smoking, that's what we do in here. So yeah Yeah, where's Carla at let's uh, we also are friends at on location or putting all these fun things on Carla Where's she at? Where's that's Carla? She puts all this together So Carla Carla got a chant Craig nothing, huh? Yeah Well, we'll get right to it is the first time we've done this live I am so excited for a multitude of reasons again. This is what do you want to talk about a fanatics and WWE original production? We have some cocktails provided by our good friends at Wheatley American vodka and once again Please round of applause for eight to stay garbar and lounge for letting us do this And our guests Our guests today someone I have wanted on the podcast for quite some time. She's a two-time world champion She's a four-time tag team champion. She is my mate in the crown. That's right Soon to be three time my mate in the crown jewel Championship overly sized obnoxious giant title that my friend bought back there for how much money? Geez And she also won the Royal Rumble, please welcome to what do you want to talk about? Live Morgan Oh Man There you go, I feel like a lot of live Morgan fans here tonight, huh? Live Morgan in a major major major match this weekend, I assume We all know she will be coming back to what do you want to talk about as we said three time? I hope so live I see you have a cocktail there. What do you what do you got? This is called believe it or not. This is called the oblivion Walk me through it. What is in the oblivion? America Wheatley Yes, I think there's like Sprite in here and like blackbird juice and grenadine and Just a bunch of things All the things yeah, I have to squeeze the lime though and I want the cherry in there So I just have to like put this down first like that. You know what? I'm getting all stuck in my pants. You guys are making me nervous while while you're you're prepping here Here is a a lesson that many wrestlers learn on the fly and we teach at the nightmare factory. You can probably Say this has happened to you. Maybe it hasn't the prop In wrestling almost always defeats the wrestler whether it's oh, I'm gonna cut this awesome promo, but I'm carrying the title Plus this thing and then it's on the wrong side or I've seen guys who forget how to take shades off When they're you know what like they put them on their whole life But don't know do you ever had a moment where the prop defeated live? Yeah, it actually my pants are killing me right now, but um When I was in nxt it was my first show at Madison Square Garden and oh, thank you And I came out. I thought it was like such a good idea to come out with a slice of pizza just because like New York City, you know So I come out with a slice of pizza in the box and I'm like do my entrance and the pizza falls and hits the ground And I'm getting like booed I was like, oh shit. So I just like picked up the pizza and I just like started eating and then they cheered me and then I just ate this dirty ass pizza off like the msg theater floor But yeah, so the prop beat me that time Thank you There's a a moment where I thought I brought something I was at ovw. I brought We were at a elk slosh does anyone know what it but it was I'll be honest They don't run these shows anymore at nxt. This was an ovw only moment, but it was uh all men's 18 and up Very strange. I don't I don't know what wwe at the time if they knew about what was happening But it was you know a lot of male energy and I was in this tag team with shan spears And it felt like and I'm 20 years old if I walked out there with a beer in my hand that they'd think like that was cool And So I can't yell I can't say what the guy yelled at me But I walked out and we came out to uh, I believe in a thing called love by darkness the band and it's already We were like the pretty boy tag team and I had the beer in my hand and epic booze and a lot of Why slanderous things said I Because in hindsight it didn't look cool at all. It was the it was the most try hard Like look at me. I have a beer. What kind of beer is it? I'm probably like a chorus light. Yeah, I was a duals Yeah, it was a bad call on my behalf I've noticed there's some uh things on this pod that I'll say. Oh, I didn't think I was gonna ask that and it's become People who do you guys is everyone familiar with the podcasters? This is your first time. Oh great I uh, I didn't think it was gonna be the first thing I was gonna ask you but I feel like asking Hey, hey, um What's something and again, we're with our friends from all location. This is this is just for us And thank you guys all for being here. I feel like I I always want somebody asked me this and maybe Maybe it's not the right question But what's something that people don't know are misunderstand about live morgan that you'd like them to know Hmm Honestly nothing Not in like a rude way. I just feel like You guys are entitled to your opinions. So whether they like love me or hate me You can feel the way that you want to feel and I feel like I don't really Feel the need to explain myself. I guess not in a rude way. I know that sounds like really cold But well, I think this whole room love you. Thank you. Well, you could you could explain yourself and then You can still be misinterpreted and misconstrued. So I will just let the cards lay where they are and Move on with my day. Okay You are she is how she is y'all I think uh, I started uh saying this recently because It's easy. I think when you hear talent or part of the roster they'll say, oh, I don't I don't mind when they boo or I And then you can tell I think you do Yeah, I guess, you know, you can it's harder as as when you're maybe getting a different reaction Then you thought what whatnot but where I've kind of landed on it to a little bit echo what you just said is You guys come to these events and I know many of you We've been on a lot of these on locations these together You guys come to these events and you have something specific that you want You want to cheer for something you want to boo something. There's an emotional need Who knows that you are entitled to and it's your hard-earned money coming to these shows You're allowed to do whatever the heck you want And I just now kind of discovered that that might mean booing me on occasion And thank you this group And I'm okay with it But it really did take a good amount of time to realize and especially with everything that's happened with my match And uh all that it's taken me a long time to realize that In the end I just want to be there and I asked Sean and Finn where they at Sean fin there they are These are two of our friends Sean fin regular on location. We could do better than that. Yeah I asked I asked them uh A question when we we talked last about what it is when you come to these events Especially when you come so frequently and you're so passionate about what we do What it is that you want to see from us and and and What we can do more for you and I'm going to ask you here as our guest on the very first live What do you want to talk about? What is your favorite thing about the fans that you have who are incredibly Dedicated and committed to you. They are ride or die. I swear. I feel like I truly appreciate I feel like there's so many moments in my career for like long bursts of time where I feel like I didn't necessarily like give my fans anything to be proud of And they still just are so loud for me online in arenas like the support I truly truly truly feel it like they stand ten toes down for me. Yeah, no matter what I do and um I I feel that love. So thank you Oh, yeah You know, I feel this the the love in regards to your fans too because when they uh, I think they came up with a hashtag for you and Stephanie When uh, when my match was collapsing on on live air for the whole world to see I think there was a hashtag going around but are you mad at it? No, but the funny part. I'm tagged in it So it's like they're trying to let you know But I am I'm an innocent bystander and all I know Cody's innocent y'all. Thank you so much. Thank you Um, I uh, but I really enjoyed it and it's it's a time where you can tell there's a difference into Your fans. I'm sure you've seen it. There's a difference when it's just Specifically on x and really it's just on instagram It's a difference when it permeates into the live audience and with yours They've really permeated into the live audience and they're as like you said ride or die Yeah, I feel like I owe a lot of my success to them just for showing up for me Yeah in those moments where I feel like I was stagnant and not really doing so much But they still they still showed up for me. Well, you you said something about you said you When was the moment that you felt you had done right? And I I'm thinking about money in the bank Specifically and I don't know if that's a moment for you but this money in the bank You're you're getting the briefcase and cashing in it's all happening. Yeah I feel like money in the bank was my first that was my first Accomplishment in wwe was winning money in the bank and cashing in on ronda rousey the same night To become the smackdown women's champion like that was my first ever like taste of success really and so I was very proud of that I'm like proud of Being able to like share that with the fans that stuck by me, but I feel like right now is I feel like my fans are thriving right now Do you know we just released a music video? We got the cover of paper magazine. We won the royal rumble We're heading into wrestlemania I'm gonna you know become the new women's world champion So I feel like my fans are eating up right now and I'm doing it for y'all. I'm doing it for y'all. So thank you I noticed in the mean greet you you were saying some things that I don't I don't know You ate that. Yeah, you ate that is like It's like you ate that like you just you you I don't know you it's just like consumed It's everything you did that like you did that like your outfit like you ate that I ate you did that. Yeah, okay. Yeah It's good. It's good It's good. I ate I ate Yeah Everyone in the live marriage like you ate that The undisputed wwe championship title is mine and I don't plan on giving it up Lucky for you. 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Yeah is when uh money in the bank and far as This weekend wrestlemania legion stadium the match that you have Is there something I always feel like I have a goal I have something that I want I want to show this off for the first time or some is there some Side of you or some element for us here tonight that you want the world to see when it comes to this match Saturday um Never Um, I am I know it's gonna be Aggressive and I know it's gonna be like feral and that's the only thing I really know about it um, I just know that she's gonna try to beat the shit out of me and I'm gonna beat the shit out of her and um That's really it. I'm really trying to just like stay present every moment leading into this wrestlemania prep and leading into this match It's my first singles match on the main show wrestlemania for the first time in my career That's great. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so grateful. Thank you. My whole family is gonna be there and so I'm just uh I'm just trying to just do what I know. Is there like an earthquake happening? Do you hear all the rumblings outside? I I is there an earthquake? Is it just me? It's rumbling out there. I can feel it in my seat. It's the energy of what do you want to talk about? Wow I know is that a sign Is that a sign? Um, no, it really is though like there's like rumbling outside I'll tell you if I feel it again because it's it's it's like it's a lot So I'm I'm at this point in my life though where uh, I feel bad saying this But maybe this is something that comes with the the dad life. I don't hear smell or feel anything You know what I mean like somebody be like you smell that like no, why? I know I don't know or like do you remember that? Like no Why can't you smell though? I I think this could sound this way big of an overshare I think years of abusing afrin. I don't know but there's What's that for a room? People will be like you smell that and you have to be like Yeah, what's afrin? Afrin's like a nose spray. Oh, yeah Yeah, it's not good mom afrin is not good. No, this is my mother by the way. This is She ate that you you ate Speaking of you have your family your family's coming. This is the first time Singles match. Yeah, I had one with natty on the pre-show during the pandemic and that was obviously a blessing it's a very different experience to Have that match in front of no one in the thunder dome versus Now, you know live at a legion stadium with However, many of y'all are showing up. Um Yeah, I just feel like I just feel like I've really earned it and that just makes me it's makes it so much sweeter for me, you know You know, there's two bits of synergy. I want to bring up because you brought up this being your first singles match and uh, this might be Topic you're not fond of but I'm just gonna just Put it out bring it synergy and just My first singles match on a pay-per-view at all in wwe was Actually at russilmania and it was against ray mysterio who you know, um deadbeat Yeah so dead deadbeat Ray mysterio, um, I don't think he even remembers by the way Because I waited in sacramento at tv to have a quiet locker room so that I could just go tell him thank you And he he goes for what and I oh well I rest mania, you know being a part of this and this so I none of it would have happened without ray mysterio, but We don't have to talk about ray mysterio. Is there anything uh Anything we can expect from from our boy who also paper magazine dominic dom daddy dom daddy dom um, well We can expect him to beat pin baller No, I'm I'm looking to beat stephanie all on my own She's been mocking me and belittling me and trying to embarrass me and trying to question my work ethic And what I bring to the table says I hide behind my friends So I am looking to defeat her all by myself. Did we drop a pin baller? We did I snuck it in there That's wrong Pin baller is rough the the other element of synergy is I You did something very nice for me, and I don't know you if you know you did this but I was kicked this happens every year at rustle mania. So it's not new, but I was kicked in the balls by john sena And I never got the receipt I I mean I got to wrestle john, but you did it for you. So thank you so much. You're welcome I really just went in there for it too. Cheers to that. I didn't hold back cheers Um, and I forgot to mention wheelie american vodka. I have the uh wheelie american mule the oblivion Wait, I want my cigar. Do you want to light up? Yeah, it is right there. It is cut. We talked about it and How do I light it with this? Well, you light it. Is this perfume here? I got you, but you don't light it like a j Is this a lighter? So Big fire round of applause. I don't want to get Right I heard you're not supposed to eat it actually like I'm not supposed to inhale this right You ate you ate on that A lot of us are I got to get it going a lot. Yeah, and you know what? Cigar so we're in a cigar bar So a lot of people can tell you this people who smoke cigars. It's a very uh, you'll find some people who are real gatekeepers about it Oh, you're not doing it right. No, it's a hole in like uh, matt cardona I got into cigars and for a month he was smoking them this way He posted a photo of him on it. No He's all like flexing isn't his pool and it's backwards and I had to let him know Um, does it hit the same though? No, it doesn't hit the same backwards. Is is it right? I mean it might hit the same but it's backwards like you don't know how to write there on the part I don't think you want to be on but no he he learned here's the thing they they If they stop being lit you rely them. There's no big deal two matches the traditional way Has anyone ever seen the movie swordfish swordfish? John Travolta? Yeah, Halle, okay Halle Berry Was it about she ate? Oh, well, what is a little synopsis? What's it? What it's about is fairly confusing But the beginning I always tell people if you ever want to know like how to light a cigar and smoke it John Travolta's whole little promo he cuts about the movie industry. That's it. It's like 60 seconds at boom You you could if you were going to a bachelor party for the first time and you want he's got it He rolls it. It's a whole thing, but there's no wrong way to do it. Don't let anyone gatekeepers. I supposed to hold it You got it. You got it. You're doing like a multitude of things. No, you I mean typically we can go here You can go cruel on no, I like this doesn't matter do your do your thing first cigar Um, I think I like puffed on one before but this is like my first like proper I'm going to sit down and smoke a cigar. Well, how special is that you get to do? A lot of us have seen it and I wanted to ask you about it should have been the first thing I asked you about but trouble Trouble the music No, I need like a little bit more love for it though like I need you guys so Thank you. Hey, guess what? I'll do the whole thing over again. We'll just run it Hey, so I wanted to ask you about this everyone is talking about it. The music video just came out trouble Iconic Yeah, how do you feel about it? Um, I love it. I it's great. Yeah, I got like a unique opportunity Um, I just got asked if I would like new music and I said yes, and they were like, would you like to sing it? And I was like, wow Yeah, um, I'm not a singer. I don't sing. I love to sing in the car in the shower but like, you know, sometimes I had a note and I'm like, damn, I hate that but like, you know Other than that, like, you know, I kind of just leave it to you know Mariah Carey, but um, I I said yes, and then um, they really like the song and that turned into would you like to do a music video? And I was like Yeah, and then so, um, we created the concept for the trouble music video, which is just very much making bad decisions causing trouble having fun um, and then we shot the music video like last week in two days and I had like three days of like a little pop star camp Where they were teaching me choreography and how to dance. I had never done a dance class before Um, but I love the experience so much. I'm very much just like I'm not too cool for school, you know, I mean, these are all things that I don't do But these are all things that I was So happy to try out and do Um, and so I'm so grateful for the experience because I got to be a fucking pop star for like three days It was iconic I ate that. Thank you So trouble if you haven't seen it check it out. It's incredible Here's I'm I'm wondering do you like it though? I loved it. Yeah, you you know, and can you sing me any line from it? You know, any little tune, you know what? I absolutely cannot You're gonna see how far we can go with it But uh, no, uh, so here's my thought because you're talking about you're singing you're a pop star the music the experience I'm wondering what other pro wrestlers. I know one off the top of my head who also have sang Naomi Naomi all the way back to michael haze heartbreak kid Shawn michael's singing his song michael haze. I always thought the big show sang that shit Right. Yeah, I thought we saw that was him. I don't think that's a big way. That's not the big show It's the big yeah, it is it is Do we can we get confirmation? I heard it's not the big show I would like to think that big show saying that song Me too, but I don't know Honky tonk man, I'm trying to think who else was singing Joe John Cena Oh man, that was right there Did didge was he singing stuff? He said like the rock says. Oh, yeah. Yeah. All right. All right. Yeah. He did a little ad-libs So, uh, I'll tell you you you bring yeah, you you bring up, uh, john sena the greatest of all time He's hosting WrestleMania. By the way, that's amazing. Um, yeah Also, been a guest on what do you want to talk about the uh This is a story that my dad told me and I thought it was the funniest thing ever When the album first came out when john did that album and most people know he self financed it He he did all you know, he did everything himself. But when that album first came out Vince was such a fan of it that he played it on the corporate jet At like max That And my dad had just come back to work here And he couldn't tell if it was a rib or if it was like, oh, this is what these jet rides are like. It's just So loud like the whole flight. What it's just john just and john was on the flight too, but it was a very uh That's uh, I believe the only album craig would know it's platinum It's a platinum, right? It's platinum You got to get platinum I'm not even released on spotify yet. How do we do that? I think we're working on it. I was very particular with the cover art So I think the listal was me being like no no no no no no no, um, but I think we're pumping it out charles Yeah, yeah, put a lot of pressure on you there charles spotify all I want to be platinum Am I supposed to be smoking this leisurely because i'm like done when it gets to the sticker does that mean i'm done Does that mean it's done? Well, if I can figure this out I got it and She's naked. Yeah, there it is. Thank you. She's naked I have more cigar now Let's take a moment to talk about power moves when you bet on yourself Leave the comfort of the status quo and come back to headline russelmania. 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That's f or the people dot com Okay, so trouble is ounce are there any are there any other things like that in this modern wwe that you want to get out there Seek out and do honestly it wasn't even something that I was seeking out. It was just came to you Yeah, I feel like you know before my injury. I was very much You know, I I still believe in journaling and like manifesting but I was very heavy on writing down what I wanted out of life and um trying to manifest these blessings and I feel like before I got injured. I was like on a really Upward like trajectory and I had a lot of awesome things going on at work Um, but even though I had all these awesome things going on. I still like wanted more Like I I was in the world is not enough Yeah, I was I was in the middle of like four different amazing things But I still was like I can do more and I want more and then I got injured and I lost it all and I wasn't able to make Good on anything that I was involved in and I remember just feeling like why the fuck was I still wanting more when I had So much in front of me Like why wasn't I enjoying and being present in what I had versus Still seeking more more more more And so I feel like now on the other side of the injury coming back. I'm really just like I'm not seeking anything and not that I'm not like hungry or wanting more, but I'm just gonna let the blessings come to me versus like Pushing and wanting and hoping I'm just gonna just be present and wake up every day and just like do my best And just see what happens and that's like what I feel like this music video came out of nowhere And paper magazine came out of nowhere and like all these amazing opportunities kind of just fell onto my lap once I stopped Wanting more. Hmm. You said some of I think is really important that I I love hearing because it's a reminder to me as well being present I think uh first russumania That I had done the main event and that was russumania 39. I don't know if anyone came to russumania 39 in la No, hell, yeah, but I I every bit of it. I I rushed through mentally every bit of it. I was very Just moving to the next thing and what I thought would be next and what was supposed to whatever it may be and I didn't I remembered being disappointed That I didn't really take the time Especially on the walk on the way down and I find that that's Now I don't know if you guys notice. Sorry if it takes a little while to get to the ring, but that's That's what I like to do Because I I want to be here in this moment And I if you should already have everything ready and loaded and it's there and you can forget And then you're back in it, but I like to be present. I like to make make eye contact I don't know if you've seen this but There's a guaranteed way to spot a super green Babyface, okay guaranteed So it's more an arena shows but you guys can watch and see it if a babyface comes out and starts glad handing People that aren't there. Oh, yeah They're not even watching they're not even looking. They're not they're not focused. They're not they're they're thinking. I'm good I do this and you'll see I saw one time somebody touched someone's face. They're yeah That's a good word for it. They float through it and I feel like this is the time We just had triple h on the podcast and triple h was talking about he was Yeah, he ate He did he had really great sneakers on He a in the podcast and he had a really good point about Being in these moments and I think that's for for all of us and wrestler Wrestling fan audience referee commentator whatever every piece of it is This is our moment. It's one of the reasons why I kind of kick back on nostalgia from time to time because well I want this for us. I want this moment that we all have so just hearing you say Be present is really really nice And I I'd wanted you on the podcast a long time because we talk and I don't know if you notice the trend when we talk or text I'll I'll air it out We only ever talk about business I have never had a conversation with you. That's like How's your family now? It's always We get to work we get to work and it's one of the things I shared with the group around me is I thought man like What a great teammate because bruce britchard came on the show and he said Be available do it be available do it. He asked. What's the success? What's the formula to be top guy top girl? Whatever be available do it way harder said than like Way easier said than done is is is be available do it and you absolutely Are just one of the most Hardest working people I have ever met in all of wwe and I don't know if people know I mean they yeah It's okay Thank you I So there are things happening at wrestle mania that you and I spoke about That's we gave this idea to someone else and then I saw Oh such interest at wwe world doing a lot and I thought that's That was our conversation. That was our but that's That's such a wonderful thing and I wonder where where does it come from and I'm going to shout her out because she's here And I'm not going to cry, but uh damn it so All of mine is because of my mom so Hey, sorry Well, yeah, she she's awesome great But one of the things that uh, the only time my mom was ever really really mad at me the entire time we grew up She's pretty okay with any ridiculous thing I did, but I got fired from my first job at einsteins bagels What did you and she uh, she used some colorful language And uh, and really let me have it and you know, we we wrestling family. So we Had money. We didn't know about we didn't have money. It was one of those We're living living the gimmick, but we were we really the gimmick or not, but I got that from her. So I'm wondering where For you does this come from because I mean it there's I can count on maybe six people That I would know hey if we decided let's uh go pitch doing live events again to nick con And present it as a whole special thing. I know you would be like I'm on it. I love that. Yes So where did well, uh, where does this come from for you? Um, I honestly think just true love for What I do and appreciation and respect to maybe like quite literally changed my life and in turn I was able to change my family's life And the lives of those that I love and so like I remember life before You know, and it's so much sweeter now. So I just feel like First of all, it's like I've been dreaming about this my whole entire life So who am I to finally get what I've been dreaming about and complain or say no that's like first And secondly, I just feel like I'm so eternally grateful for everything that W. W. Has given me that There's nothing I wouldn't do in return. Like I feel like there's nothing I can do to show My appreciation or my gratefulness or like just my love for W. W. And what it's given me. And so like I will Give whatever is needed from me just to say thank you, you know, oh wow. Thank you. Thank you live very much Oh You uh, we were we were taking pictures up here and there's a there's a group here that's known you since Hooters for Hooters. Yeah Shout out to the Samoa family Y'all they have been riding with me for like the last 13 years of my life Met the Matt Hooters and they come to all the events that they can and support me and Wish me happy birthday and Merry Christmas. They're great great great people. I love you guys Oh, wow Well, my sister worked at Hooters at one point, right? He'll work at her. Yeah Crow my older sister worked at yeah, okay How'd you feel about that? Yeah, kids eat for free on Tuesdays. Kids eat for free, you know Yeah No, no, what does it take? What does it take, you know a sparkling smile charisma great customer service the patience of a saint um and hard work and dedication Wow, I'm very excited that we got into this territory Because I feel like we I can't get out now. I was in the calendar. I was like a big time Hooters girl. Yeah, um Okay unrelated to Hooters not that we love it, uh, but unrelated Our friend who has the giant crown jewel championship. Um, have you ever seen the video of us driving in that golf cart? Yeah, but it's like very fast and there's like no sound and I was like, were we just not talking the whole time? Well, I didn't know You know, you never know anymore, especially with like unreal. Yeah, but it's real, but it's it's everything now Uh, it so I said something real to you and you said something very real to me back I was like, oh man Hunter told me I did a really good job And and you're like, yeah, I think he probably meant it like it was like I was like all emotional I was like, oh it's really, you know And then uh, but then I saw you just doing like this And looking around and what are we is this are there people like what they said it was right around the corner It's not in the titles that they gave it wasn't right around the corner Okay, no, it was the car wrong golf cart drive and We're sitting there and all we ever talked about is business. So this was just us there and the titles are so big So insane and I had two I think you had two too, right? Yeah, and uh, I don't know if you remember but So that night on the flight the flight attendant had to get some sort of olive oil to help your ring I remember because I was so not gonna I had to get that ring on I had to And uh, do you still have your ring? Yeah, yeah, I broke the case. Oh, that's okay. It's okay. It's just the case Um, I need a new one Zachary Um, but yeah, I have it. I keep it in a little satchel and I bring it to tv every week Just in case I want to like whip it out. Yeah, I wanted to use it. I wanted to like win matches with it and stuff Oh kind of old school, you know Well, you can you still have the ring, you know, you could yeah, but there was like a winner after me I feel like it doesn't hit the same Oh, no, but it's your ring. Remember remember, but they had one too Hunter was like, you know, you can win a ring and then next year you can win another and it's kind of like a super bowl That was the original kind of thought process Did the last people get rings? Zach did the last people get rings? Hey, we're gonna do this real quick because he's standing here and she referenced him during the rest of mania period How many appearances do you have by the way? Fucking a million Everybody has a lot of appearances and they're all no one's complaining like you said everybody's happy to do it I love it all excited to do whatever we can and meet as many people as we can and especially the good ones who The good ones are all on rest of mania, but that's Zach. He works in talent relations. He helped Guys, that's my goat for real. That's my goat That he is your ring case. He is your goat. Do you know how I know you're his number one? Tell me well Because because I'm 1b I'm quarterback one. Yeah, so you are qp1 you're 1a Whereas I am 1b with our talent relations squad, but yeah, no, he does an incredible job Big news WWE and sports fans the world's number one sports fan festival fanatics fest is making its return to new york city Fanatics is bringing you closer to the leagues teams superstars and athletes you love across four action packed days in july Meet your favorite ww superstars get your hands on exclusive merch and interact with the biggest names in sports Tickets are on sale now and fans of the podcast can use code Kodi 10 at checkout for 10 discount head to fanatics fest com to get your tickets today This is where I was going to go when we brought up hooters and then we went all over the place but uh You were talking about being injured and talking about I feel like as a wrestler performer However, we look at it the most defining moments for me are moments where It didn't hit where whether it was an injury or whether It was a loss that I didn't feel should have been a loss and could you come back from it? Is there anything you can speak to of a moment where? Your fans kind of lifted you back up or you lifted yourself back up because again One of the reasons I was so excited to have you on the podcast is yours is not you're not a Rocket on the back straight to the moon. This is a journey of yeah up down and those are the best Those are the real ones the ones who hang in And keep going and you've done that and you're getting ready to walk into a legion stadium in a championship match Um, what's what's the moment that shaped you? Um, well, honestly the injury was really hard for me. Like I took it really hard. Um, I was very sad for a very long time I'm like a very much like everything happens for a reason type person. You know, something happens. That's terrible I'm like so like optimistically delusional that I'm like, no this happened for my greater good And maybe I don't see it now, but I know this happened for my greater good my injury I was like no this happened just to fuck me like I was like Yeah, like I was like no like this is not this is not good and so um, I couldn't wrap my head around it and I couldn't accept it because I didn't see like what good was gonna come from this or why this happened. I was I had to miss evolution I had to miss summer slam in my hometown um I didn't know what I was going to come back to you as far as work like I was going to be out for six months Like that is so unknown. I could come back and everything that I know could be different And so I just was sad and I just really didn't know like what to believe in if I didn't believe that I was going to be okay at the end of the day. Yeah, and so I was talking to Raquel And I was just shout out to Raquel. Shout out to my sister Raquel big sexy I was just on FaceTime just like being upset as I was always being and um, I just was telling her like I just I just don't believe in anything like I don't have any faith right now On what this looks like on the other side and it was just like so simple, but she just was like sister I feel like when you Feel like you have no faith is when you're supposed to have the most And it was just so simple, but I just was like, huh um, and I feel like that was when I was kind of able to Stop feeling sorry for myself and just pick myself up a little bit, but that was like the start of me Feeling like okay. I'm coming back like mentally emotionally and physically. Um, and so Raquel definitely Definitely helped me out of Some rainy days Yeah, and then to have your have your partner in crime like that and someone who's there and has your back and supports you My best friend your best friend my sister my best friend in life. She's the best. Yeah, I'd like to have her on the podcast She you'd love her on the podcast. She's so funny and she's so smart and she's so talented Yeah, honestly, I feel like she surprised you a lot. She knows a lot about a lot of things Okay, yeah I don't Sold, uh, I want to ask you because you're talking about someone who's there right now in this moment And they're they're there for you, but you and your wwe. Do you have a favorite wrestler? past present Dominic missirah, obviously daddy dum I'm serious. He's my favorite wrestler. Have you ever heard me talk about dum before you love him? I do love him and it's weird because he'll he'll say something So mean about punk in the media and I'm thinking oh All of us are all us baby faces are screwed. He's coming for us all and then he'll be like, oh, kodi's a really cool guy So I don't know what I did but dom is the one guy He's the one i'm trying to think if there's another one dom's like the one guy at work that I feel Not cool around because I'll have like Yeah, I'll have like a new watch or something. I'll be hey, hey dom And he's got a giant sky-dweller on it's like just which is a very nice fancy watch. He's just oozes charisma and also I love the fact that dom is kind of trained backwards He's he's he knows psychology. He knows how to engage with fans. He knows how a live proud But fundamental fundamentals have come after all that which is a little bit of how I was trained, but yeah dom I don't know Do you have a way I can get in? With dom like I feel like you're in already I I don't know he hasn't said anything bad about you. I feel like you're in he's just cool Maybe you're cooler than you think you are maybe there was a there was a charter flight where I realized okay, that kid's got it What was it? we were coming back from uh, saudi and dom was up front and Dom was about I'm gonna take a nap. I'm not here for this whole Wrestlers and he was in a hoodie and it was like looking at a guy like in a back to tank He was just in this hoodie, but his watch perfectly lay on his chest And several people uh me uh michael cole we were we're talking over him glasses are going over him or laughing People are cheersing and he never moved and it was legit 14 hours Anytime I've ever seen dominick get on a plane like he just goes to sleep right away. How I don't even know if he's tired You know what you mean, but he'll just get there and just he'll just go to sleep for the whole time He just has 14. I haven't slept more than six hours in like 10 years and 14 hours, but he probably didn't go to sleep the night before my favorite thing is on these flights Especially you'll see wrestlers. They'll get like all the neck pillows and randy orton We'll have like a back pillow and a bunch of equipment his legs are like attached to the ceiling. It's a whole thing but they like Can sleep I'll do the little neck pillow and I'll do this thing where I lean back like oh, I'm gonna sleep and then Without fail anyone who's been on a flight with me has seen it. I fall forward I fall I look like just drooling on myself. I don't know I've never figured out the I've never figured it out So now I don't do it now. I I was on the Corporate plane the other day and I felt bad because everyone on that plane wanted to sleep including hunter including hunter and I just All I talked about was like so Remember when you cut the game promo? I could tell like an hour and he's like, oh no, dude. This is a long flight Like, uh, yeah, I'm afraid I'm afraid I'm also afraid to sleep on planes with the boys because you don't know You think they'll do something. Yeah, they can shave your eyebrow or no. I mean, we don't do any of that anymore. Really? Yeah, yeah, they don't we don't really do any of that anymore. No, I've heard. I feel like it's very wholesome Yeah, um, okay. So dom notwithstanding who we know is cool and can sleep and is wonderful Who is someone else favorite wrestler who's someone you look to? I don't know if you're someone who's a tape study type I'm uh, for example, I get to tv and everyone in the Who comes on the bus hates it, but I immediately turn on wrestling and it can be like Mid-south tv taping that's not really done like on youtube and if you watch it now Maybe doesn't hold up as well, but I I need it. It's osmosis. I need that and I might see some in the learn Is there something you look back at and watch or someone you try to steal from or something you try to take? I feel like You know like old school shon michael's Like, you know heel 90 shon michael's or like old heel y2j um, oh, okay. Yeah, I just yeah He's great. He was he was great. He was great. He was something can I give you a sidebar on the old old y2j? Yeah, whenever anyone listen, you guys are all pretty much in you're in this room You're in I'll tell you a word not to use and it's not because it's offensive. It's just not a true word is the word botch because It's not a botch It's it's a it's a wrestling match. No one knows but us and maybe it didn't look correct or listen It was a botch, but you know, but it's not I see what you mean. No, it's like you don't know what it was supposed to be So how do you know it's a botch? It keeps rolling, but anytime somebody blows it on tv I mean goes for something and falls or we don't have to name names or just doesn't go right I send them the same clip of me trying to power slam christi airco Who isn't running? And I'm falling backwards. So it just looks like two drunk guys at a bar Rolling on each other, but then we still got up like we hit it And nailed it and it's because it happens to everybody, right? Yeah, do you do you have one bad moment that you can recall? Are you pretty I'm sure I have bad moments, but the only one that's like really sticking out. Um I think it was like one of my first appearances on nxt And I was in like the first ever nxt women's battle royal And I really wanted to do like a power bomb just like a Oh, yeah, okay. Yeah, and so I went to go power bomb Cameron, you know from the funk of dactyls I do and um I just I was so excited and I was really like I gotta lift her so I go and I shoot her up and I it's like Overrotate so strong and oh she just like landed on me. Um, and then I think I popped up too Yeah, yeah, I just like popped up. Um, but that was right That is like what's sticking out to me right now, but I'm sure there's like loads of times where I thought I botched something a uh, you maybe think about sina batista where they They I think that's the rumble gone wrong. Yeah, they they go up for a power bomb But he pulls them so much and then they just fall out. It's a whole disaster, but uh, you mentioned Shawn Michaels And I don't know if anyone you know, we got big hbk fans here So I'll tell you being a Shawn Michaels fan growing up is kind of a choice Right, he was progressive. Yeah, and it's like easy He is right it's it's easier to be I guess it was easier to be a brett fan And I'm saying if you're a got like a young man like it was easier to be a brett fan Maybe because Shawn's out there in chaps and he's dancing and he's singing his own song and the whole deal But if you want to see just some Wildness Shawn Michaels versus Vader is Oh my gosh How Shawn Michaels was fearless. I you know, I gotta watch it back. I don't oh my gosh I mean, it's infamous for there's this big moment where he's gonna jump on his head And he doesn't move and then he screams out a move But it's still somehow is a good match even though it's it's collapsing right in front of you But Shawn uh Shawn gave me this really great piece of advice once that I thought was so cool Shawn was a smaller guy. He's a lighter heavyweight But Shawn said that a lot of fans would come and trash talk him or say stuff and you know He was they thought they could take him and then he'd always just give him a Just a look and that alone. They'd be like, oh Yeah, never mind Yeah, that guy that guy's tough. All right, never mind. Um, so Shawn Michaels is one of the others any others that you like to watch um I mean, I like to watch. Oh, I guess no one's really like No, it's okay Um No, I totally did like maybe that's it Hey, HBK is good and this and it got me thinking and I of course going on about this Vader match What it's a total mess, but I am very excited. Are you a big Hall of Fame fan? Yeah, okay It's like one of my favorite events all year. Yeah, except I I love it. I went on a rant about the Hall of Fame that just kept going on because I love the Hall of Fame. I love the Hall of Fame I don't love It's in the middle of the night basically That's why I love it. Oh, you're okay. You're about I love watching everyone else I'll go there and I'll just sit in my dress and I'm just watching everyone else The Hall of Fame was kind of my first uh It my dad got rehired by WDB in 2005 and he went into the Hall of Fame in 2007 So rest of me is always a family reunion for us, which is cool because your family's gonna be I think your boxes by my box Yeah, they're by each other, but I love the Hall of Fame and someone I'm so excited about even if it's just a video, but it's Sid I didn't realize how awesome Sid was growing up and then I don't know if you've ever seen it There's a really good just a lesson for a young wrestler. Has anyone seen Sid in Madison Square Garden versus Shawn Michaels? Oh So it's uh, it's uh, you know lately I get booed a lot. So I'm like, oh, it's an away game You know, uh, but it's an away game for Shawn Michaels because the crowd was just about Sid They were and you can see, you know when we just lose ourselves and we're not in character anymore And we're just like, yeah, you can see cuz Sid would come out and you do one fist pound But he you can tell he's like for me. Oh, he's just pounding away and all excited. It's a legendary match I'm uh, I'm glad Shawn is uh one of your guys In wwe every road leads to one place WrestleMania and every journey starts on the road to gold Now that journey comes to life with WrestleMania road to gold Only at fanatics casino the game features 20 ww superstars from Bianca Belair and Rhea Ripley to Seth Rollins John Cena and me get your money in the bank or when the royal rumble and elimination chamber With bonuses every step of the way every reward brings you closer to the biggest stage there is This is WrestleMania road to gold and it only lives at fanatics casino must be 21 and over gambling problem Call 1 800 gambler not available in all states. See fanatics casino app We talk a lot about the producers of wwe on this show Because the producers are helping put together, you know wrestling as it is today and doing an incredible job and Curveballs left and right for many of them. Do you have a favorite producer you work with? No, no, no, I really don't I love I love them all. Oh, yeah, and the different ways not a least favorite in different ways No, I love them all. I really do. I feel like um Even though everyone like works differently and has a different style I just feel like there's something still to like learn in that and it might not be Exactly what I thought but also I don't think I know better. So I don't know. I like getting different opinions and different um options or choices from the different producers that maybe I don't Necessarily like resonate with but then I do what they say and I'm like, oh, you know, there's something to that like They're right, you know, um But no, I like working with everyone. I like working with everyone Yeah, we have a great team of producers. Is it do you have a guru particular? Is there anyone you that you seek out? I have mine Maybe tj. Oh, yeah, tj. Wilson tj Yeah, tj Yeah, I feel like um If I'm even if he's not doing my match, I'll like send him like I'll try something at the performance center And be like, do you think this is cool? Do you like this? And he'll always give me feedback he um, this is really off the off the mark, but tj is uh, really, you know, little brody is getting ready to have like his first We've been training in the dungeon. Yeah, we've been training in the dungeon and getting the clips It's crazy what tj and natty have done just he's Way too good for that age. Yeah, you get all of everyone who goes to the dungeon and then what a crew by the way Jacobs down there sometimes you see a lot of people tj very very special tj needs to come on the podcast But yeah, no, I was if a little brody had to have somebody training him tj and natty tj and natty My gosh, so they keep it. They keep it, you know 100. I don't know if that's a thing people say anymore foundational Like, you know, it's nothing that like you shouldn't know Yeah, no, uh, so wait, who's your favorite producer favorite producer? Yeah I want to be I want to let's let me see if I can find a least favorite I don't know least favorite. I'll find elite, you know, you know, is my least favorite. Yeah hurricane What? Tell me why because He uh, he doesn't really produce the girlies a lot. He's exceptional Fundamentally sound he is the reason by the way, logan paul is getting as good as logan paul is getting is because hurricane is just He spends time with him spends time and trains him But he got me so bad as a rib would go In a rib that no one would know is a rib I sometimes people bring me my dad's clothes And they think I want to wear them And no, that's a that was his and I don't want it Either it's yours. It's better with you. I don't please don't bring me his things He had me in japan put on This giant dusty robe and this goofy hat And you're in japan where the language barrier is already there like there's a lot of kids who this is just so It was a very long but beautifully thought out the intention was there But ever since then I've just kind of You know, you never know what you're gonna get and then molly holly norah She is not afraid to tell you That exactly that's great though. Because you come back at those especially those live events where she'd be and you think like Oh, how's it is good? And most people at that and point of the night want to go home, but she's always like well There's this one thing. That's what I love though. Nick pick my shit. Yeah, she's uh, she's phenomenal I like all our producers. I think the most fun producer to work with sometimes can be abyss Because he's almost in that match with you. Yeah He's so stressed out and so excited and so, uh, you know as if people who watch unreal. Do you guys watch unreal? He's a He's a big hit on uh unreal. No, but uh, yeah tj's special. We need to get tj on the pod who jj Jj. Oh amazing. Yeah. Yeah, the whole crew. We don't have a bad apple. There's really not one that would not I love davari too. Shout out to the varry. You like to varry. I love to varry So I have this little it's covered up because good hair and makeup. Thank you by the way christin I have this scar right here from davari. Yep now my very first match on the road I was in badminton, louisiana And davari grabbed me by the arm and he shot me towards the ropes and he went And instead of going Hanging onto the ropes are not running I ran full speed right back at him and he just put his uh the tip of his elbow just right here And it busted open hard way and I thought That's cool. Like i'm a wrestler. It's oh and then it's so I saw it squirt Yeah, you had artery and I thought oh no and My kiyota like immediately like rang the bell and this was my very first live event hadn't been on tv I actually debuted the next week in the hallway talking to axel jim dougan and i'm turned sideways Because there's giant cable stitches in my forehead from davari. So we like to varry I also like to varry because when we do big pull-aparts and stuff He tries to get his jacket off because he's jacked So he's if you guys if you see davari tell him that tell him he ate You know, he's in great shape. Yeah, he ate. Um, thank you so much coming on the podcast We got a couple things we need you to do. Yeah, we got a couple things that are again first ever live podcast here at eight cigar bar Um I want to talk to you about we call it myself wheelie american vodka. Thank you by the way, which oblivion was good Yeah, I finished it. 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