Joe and Jada

2 Chainz talks NEW BOOK, Atlanta's hip hop legacy & WILD Jay-Z story

50 min
Mar 17, 2026about 1 month ago
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Summary

Two Chainz discusses his new book 'The Voice in My Head is God,' which explores intuition, divine guidance, and decision-making throughout his career. He reflects on Atlanta's hip-hop legacy, the importance of internal team-building, and shares personal stories including a notable interaction with Jay-Z and Diddy regarding a business opportunity.

Insights
  • Intuition and internal guidance serve as a competitive advantage in business and creative decisions, not just artistic pursuits
  • Building a strong internal team and surrounding yourself with believers is more critical than individual talent for sustained success
  • Generational wealth and mindset shifts require breaking cycles of struggle and intentionally creating different outcomes for descendants
  • Atlanta's collaborative music ecosystem creates resilience and adaptability that translates to business success across industries
  • Authenticity and preparation (being 'bootstrapped and ready') generate organic opportunities without aggressive self-promotion
Trends
Personal development literature from hip-hop artists expanding beyond autobiography into spiritual and business guidanceAudio book production with cinematic elements (sound design, scoring) becoming competitive differentiator for spoken word contentArtist-entrepreneur model emphasizing internal compass and intuition over external validation and industry gatekeepersMulti-generational wealth building and family legacy planning becoming central narrative in hip-hop artist interviewsCollaborative regional music ecosystems (Atlanta model) as sustainable alternative to competitive, zero-sum industry dynamics
Topics
Intuition and Decision-Making in BusinessBook Publishing and Author Platform BuildingAtlanta Hip-Hop Legacy and Regional Music CultureTeam Building and Internal OrganizationGenerational Wealth and Family LegacyPersonal Branding and AuthenticityMusic Industry Partnerships and NegotiationsSpiritual Guidance and Inner VoiceParenting and Family ValuesCareer Pivots and AdaptationAudio Book Production and DistributionCommunity Investment and Social ResponsibilityOvercoming Adversity and ResilienceEntrepreneurship Beyond Entertainment
Companies
Bad Boy Records
Referenced in context of G-Dap's early career and collaborations with artists on the label
People
Two Chainz
Hip-hop artist and entrepreneur discussing his new book 'The Voice in My Head is God' and career philosophy
Jay-Z
Mentioned in context of a business partnership opportunity that Two Chainz declined based on intuition
Diddy
Referenced as part of the Jay-Z business opportunity discussion and partnership negotiations
Kanye West
Discussed as collaborator on album work where Two Chainz delivered notable performances and verses
G-Dap
Bronx-based artist and collaborator, recently released from incarceration, working on new projects
Black Rob
Artist with upcoming project collaboration with G-Dap mentioned during episode
Fat Joe
Referenced in casual conversation about artist collaborations and working relationships
Dereese Walker
Independent artist who created the cover art drawing for Two Chainz's book 'The Voice in My Head is God'
Gayle King
Media personality who interviewed Two Chainz about his book and praised the audiobook production
Quotes
"Something told me to come to the joint and say, when I come to New York, I got to figure out a way to come right with Joe and Jada"
Two ChainzOpening
"I'm a ghetto dude with some money. You know what I'm saying? I take baby steps. Sometimes I was pulling the trigger. Sometimes I wasn't."
Two ChainzEarly discussion
"The voice is like, it warns you before it comes before trauma, ego, fear, any of that stuff. But you can't see what it's trying to do. So you got to kind of have faith."
Two ChainzBook discussion
"I had nothing. I was a bum. I had nothing. What's wrong with you? You're out of here. I'm hot."
Two ChainzChildhood reflection
"Everything don't go your way. You got to look at the lesson. These lawyers right now, they're killing me. But it's temporary, temporary. Keep your head up and keep it moving."
Two ChainzAdversity discussion
Full Transcript
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You gotta think of basketball. You gotta think of very family orientated. Even got mama love in the building. You gotta think of great businessmen. Gotta think of somebody that does stuff for the community. Annually, yearly, daily. You gotta think of someone who was able to overcome adversity. Came in as a member of a group. Poured his soul out of his contract, came back solo. Duck taped himself to a rocket ship and took over the world. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for my brother. Two chants. Two chants? What's up, Lil? What's up, my brother? How y'all man? What's good? I'm happy to be on here. You're the land of the A. That's right, man. Man, that shit is so prestigious to me. I tell them every time, every time I go to Atlanta, I feel like home. You know, all the rest of the runs. And you're a legend, huh? I thought you was gonna say the rest of the runs. I love everything about the A. I love everything about the A. And the fact that you didn't buy a house there. Back in the day when I was supposed to, I was supposed to buy a house there. Like I was like Miami and Lynn. You know what I'm saying? I went to Miami 23, I ain't having like maybe I did, I wasn't what... That's the, I'm a ghetto dude with some money. You know what I'm saying? I take baby steps. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes I was pulling the trigger. Sometimes I wasn't. But I love Atlanta. You're a major fixture in Atlanta. What's it like coming from Atlanta from day one? How many years you been rapping now and in your career, and you've seen so many people blow up from Atlanta or before you? What's that like being from net? Just being from the city. I was able to see it, I mean, go through many eras, go through heavy bass driven, heavy, maybe dance driven to the trap too. You know, all the different eras, but they all still very much remain in today's music. Parts of it, like DNA from it. And just having Atlanta as your landscape coming up, I think builds resilience and also gives you discipline and you gotta be able to adapt. You know what I'm saying? Coming from Atlanta life, it's just in the given day, these situations are changed. So I think adapt, build it. What am I trying to say? Being able to adapt is like an advantage coming from Atlanta. Once you leave the city, you're able to take those, the skill sets that you learned in the city and just apply to every room. I know I have so every room I'm in is still like Atlanta's there with me. But that's the energy that I'm always holding on to. We got from there, so we always, I've always seen unity in Atlanta. That's how I've always felt. I always felt like these guys stick together, they push each other, they work with each other, they support each other. Tell me about the unity coming up in Atlanta. You know, what's that about? Collaborating is always like a good idea in the city, not just in music, but in business too. I think we're all open to working together in some sort of way. And that removes a lot of the pocket watching and the jealousy that you would see in other areas because of the fact that we are open to share LLCs or share a mic booth. So, you know, music is just an extension of the energy that the city has as far as working together and being, you know, being collaborative. How do you feel after duffel bag boys? For those that don't know how long you've been on the Grizzly doing your one-two, it seemed like right after that the elevator was stuck on the up roof. Yeah, man. Just man, my commitment and my resilience, man. I'm self-motivated, you know, like you can't, you can't, you can't buy the motivation. You can't buy ambition, you know what I'm saying? So, do my self-evaluation, man. I get up and I just got that energy. Like I'm him and I can just reach heights and early on, I was one of those, I was one of those that was arrogant before I got in the game. I used to look at everybody in the game, look at, you know, all my peers and be like, I can get with this person, I can get with this person. As soon as I got in the game, I started to, I became more humble because I saw like the arrogant people, how they're, how they're, how I kind of played out over time. Like the arrogant on the way up, they rubbed people the wrong way. And then on the way down, people don't care much about them because they remember how you made them feel. And so I kind of damned my arrogance once I got in the game, but it's still very much internal, you know what I mean? And when I got in, I just had so much to prove to not just everybody else, but to myself, you know what I mean? I just asked people all the time, like, you knew you was going to beat it? Like people that's an issue, like, when did you know you was going to be a rep? Because I felt like I was going to be something. I always knew I was going to be something, you know what I mean? And I always knew I was going to be successful. And, and that's kind of like what some of my, my book has indicated. Like I got this like inner monologue, I got this, this divine guidance that like navigate. It's like my navigation. It just, it just leads me to success, man. Speaking on the book, the voice in my head is God. Yeah. What a title. The title was amazing. I ain't typing a voice. It's captivating. Could you hear God? Well, that's what I'm trying to tell you. If you ever said something told me, you know what I'm saying? Something told me to call my man's appeal to get this whatever. Something told me to. This guy wasn't good. Something told me or something. Something told me a million times. That's it. He's a god. That's something is it. I did the, I did it. I'm the, I'm the guinea pig for this. I don't listen to this, but when I ain't listened, I done had different outcomes. When I've listened, I just been, you know what I'm saying? It's been like, and it's, and it's the thing is, it's not like a loud voice. But it's clear. It's telling you, man, Joe, stay your ass in the house. It's saying, hey kids, man, don't even answer the phone or make sure you answer the phone. You know what I'm saying? You miss that call. Your home will take you from, from prison. Man, this is such a stuff. Man, something told me that I don't answer calls on. Man, something told me I should have answered the call. You know what I miss my, whatever that is. So I'm in the book just using examples of how that, that is, is God. The title, the voice is my conscience, intuition, think intuition, gut feeling. You know what I'm saying? Good feeling. Some told me to get out of here. If something is time to go. I'm one of those people that just leave places. I'm really one of those people. I'm rolling them for guns time to go. Just some just tell me it's time to go. Like it don't mean somebody's gonna shoot up a place. It's a gut feeling. It just be like, but it just, it just mean like, so when I'm putting something out to the world, this is like something from my community to try to tell a player like, it's okay to like hush down the noise and listen to that voice and actually believe it. Like the voice is like, it warns you before it. And it comes before trauma, ego, fear, any of that stuff. Right. But you can't see what it's trying to. So you got to kind of have faith on like whatever it's trying to tell you, right? Cause it's like, Hey, I'm telling you, keep straight. But you don't know why it's telling you to keep straight instead of turning left. You know what I mean? And I'm really not telling you, I have this voice and it's almost feel like, like man, people ask me, but like, are you always coming up with something? How you come over to stuff like, now I'm just going to tell people in the book, like this really, I've been operating so long. It's almost like a secret. It's not a secret, but this I've been moving, whether you believe it, operating those terms or not. But I have this, this conference, this internal conference that helps me make decisions daily from business decisions to what I'm aware, everything, bro. You know, when, when it happens to me, well, for years, I didn't know God was sending me messages and stuff like that. And then once I noticed that whenever I can't sleep at, because I can sleep anywhere. Shit will be shit. I'm sleeping. When I can't sleep, now I know, I've been through it enough that now I'd be like, all right, God, what you trying to tell me? Yeah. So I start thinking that everything, and then that's how I come up with like a plan, whether it's business, life, family, whatever. When I can't sleep, now I'll be like, I, what you trying to say? Because, you know, I know I can't sleep. Could you try and let me know something? And then you're going over with yourself internally, you know what I'm saying? And, and I think that's just a message I'm trying to, I'm trying to, I'm trying to put out. Like, you have to have experience. You have to go through life to know, like this means something. You have to not sleep for so many nights before you realize, like this is God trying to speak to me. So that's what this book, you have to, I couldn't wrote this book when I was 20, 30, you have to live long enough. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me ask you one more question. People sold selfish, right? What made you share this in your book with the world and let people know what you know? What's your secret to success? Your drive to success? What made you share it with the world? Because a lot of people, I'll tell you my story about it, kissed her a hundred times, but I'll tell you my flip side of the story, but, but, but what made you say you're going to share this with the world? I'm thinking legacy, leaving something behind, some type of literature that's not just an autobiography or anything like that, like something real that has substance, something that shows growth and evolution, you know, something that speaks to an audience outside of hip hop as well. When you speak about intuition, they saying just about no bars or about what after part of this show up to, this is bigger than that. So when I talk about intuition, I talk about it like it's like a sixth sense. That's a real superpower for me. Like, you know, so I'm not going back and forth with something that's inside of me. They telling you this whole time, boy, God is in you. God is the blessing coming from within. You don't got all these hints. That's what I'm hearing here. What I'm hearing is, it's the God in me. That's what I'm hearing. It's the God in me. It's the God in me. That's what I keep hearing. Mary, Mary, yeah. It's the God in me. That's crazy. I was reading some excerpt from the book and I seen you saying 2012, all-star, you already felt like him before you got in the gym. But once you got in there, you got, the love was in abundance. And you went to your seat, which was a little couple of 20 rows up. They like screwed that man. I'm going to work my way down. Of course, son. And God's got more love for Mary and people like that. So I understand that intuition, that confidence. You said one day I'm going to get there or you just went down? No, you had tickets. I was up there. Where you wasn't supposed to be. I said, next you were going to go with three or four. I done squeezed between, I done done all type of stuff before. This is really what happened. You're your son, mama. I went to All-Star. It's a funny dude. I hung out with him at All-Star. The things he be saying in there. Listen, I went to the All-Star one year and one of my homies, disrespecting a young lady that worked for the something. I saw you near. Yes. And you know what I mean? So you know that trinket down to me. So what connection I used to have was almost like I had to start figuring things out of my own. But I really love the game. I really love basketball so much that I go and just figure it out. So this is one time I went. I'm up. And you just know you're only supposed to be up here. Like I ain't like I'm being ambitious. I either done soul some weed to some of these rappers. I actually done done verses and songs with them. Boy, I done just got up. You know, security be, let me get you. Let me get you. I tell everybody if you act like you supposed to be there. I'm folk. Yeah, man. You get to look at them for like they trying you, they disrespecting you, asking for some, you know, and for dance or a lamb. Boy, I get to walk and do what you do. You don't be looking them all in the eyes and say you just, you know what I'm saying? Because see, this is my other take. Anytime you're riding and you see Tweed, you look Tweed right in the eyes. You're finished. You've got to get whipped over, man. Well, if you don't look at them, they'll pull you over too. No, no, no, no, no. If you don't, this when you're not a criminal, you don't care about the police, bro. You don't care. Only people that's criminal. We the only one do all kind of old little shit that they try. I'm telling you right up on. I'm telling you, man. He's more focused looking the mirror and all that shit. That's why you don't post the list. And man, you posted not even stun them, man. So that's how I am with knowing I'm supposed to be somewhere. I ain't even, I'm just, so I'm just torn on business. But yeah, those, those... Got Nadine in the building, building Daniel's level. Come in, Nadine, man. The man, the man up here with the store. No, no, no, we got it. But I mean, I'm facing, but he's got to go to that store. He got to plug. He got to plug his boss. The infamous Daniel... For your ass coming out here, if I said I'm with these some, he wouldn't live. Go over there. Oh, that's for a long time from the record. They all need us. Cross now, cross now, cross now. My abs. Do I make that for the year 2020? Yeah. See you in a couple of years. Where is that? Hey, man. I need some... Bam, man. I'ma need that in the Tony size. You did what I'm saying. Get him a life long life. I already worked with him before, but... I'm coming on. You keep talking about before, past, now. This ain't about ED. He really worked now. He's coming up. Hey, listen. With his height? She's going to be flair. She's going to be flair. You know, you know my height. You hear that? You hear that? I don't have to do much, but with that height, he over here. Yeah. I'm sitting with him all start, and he talking shit about the basketball players. Yeah. You asked him, um, Versace shit, the only Kanye war or some shit. You was like, you see this Versace shit joke? Them motherfucking seven foot thing, which they had this Versace shit. Well, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Let me come clean. I feel like I'm the reason why brands start making shit for Hoopers. Hoop, niggas used to see me and be like, Hey, short, what size shoe you up? Because I'm having on something just, you know what I'm saying? I'm having on and they see me. I'm a real true six five. I'm an NBA point guard size. You get what I'm saying? So when they see me having it on, I believe it is my belief that early on, when they started caring about dressing, they didn't used to care about dressing, bro. Basketball player didn't used to care about dressing, but like you see somebody tall like can put it on. You know what I mean? Then I think you know, you were super tall guys. You all talk the same shit, right? Like, cause Dray from Cool and Dray, he be like, you know, six, seven, I jumped out the Rolls Royce. They automatically know I'm bald, but I'm like, yo, they always got that same monologue. Let me tell you something, yo, two days you bugged out, but I thought I was the only one that thought shit like that in my head. Like when I wear that shit, I be like, yo, I got them. But you was speaking it out loud. The voice in you was out loud. Well, sometimes that's when they get the same man. You must be, you got imaginary friends. You talking to yourself. So that's when they get like that. But for the most part, most part, Joe, you care too much, not to talk to yourself. You know, you, you really give a fuck about your appearance. So I know in your head, you like, oh, yeah, I'm gonna go pink on them. Yeah, I'm the video. Yeah, I'm coming to kill them. I'm going, I'm still there. I'm the witness on that. You were absolutely right for him. Every little detail. Yeah. Even the coat that he's wearing, he chose the zipper. We had to find the zipper and this slider. He was so specific about how it should look. Tell me, what's the first thing I say when I see the coat? What's the first thing I said about the zipper? I know you talked about the zipper. Yeah. That's it. Yeah, the zipper. He's sending the zipper. Care about a super expensive coat and have a cheap zipper on. Your shit gotta be quality. No, no, no, no, no. That's the whole point. You can't wear fucking links in the zipper. He had a whole team running trying to find this. I ain't gotta be like this and all that shit. You know, people try to cut corners, man, and do like cheap shit. I'm not, listen, I ain't into the cheap shit, man. You ain't in the current corners. You ain't in the current corners. You know, I ain't had shit. You know what I'm saying? I don't want to curse too much in front of your mom's is off the camera, but I didn't have nothing. So I tell these guys all the time, I had nothing. I was a bum. I had nothing. What's wrong with you? You're out of here. I'm hot. When I was a little kid running around in elementary, the teachers was looking at me like, yo, this nigga going to jail. He dying. Because what's wrong with you? You heard this one before? No, you heard this one. It's a rerun. Every show. It's a rerun. This is the biggest. So that's why. That you never forget when you came. You never forget. No, I don't. You can buy in projects now. I walk around my house. Go right in. And I look at the light bulb. Mama, I look at the light bulb and I'm like, yo, we got these light bulbs. This is crazy. If you believe we got this light bulb, like, yo, we ain't had nothing. You know, they trying to gas me. You didn't have the light bulb? No, I think I'm going to do ancestry.com just to really, really bring out the proof of how we ain't have shit for like 300, 400 years. I'm a bus out the whole generation. By the way, by the way, Joe. Yo, cousin T, though, wasn't shit. Cousin Pablo wasn't shit. Yo, listen, listen, listen. Auntie Miriam. Listen, listen, listen. Listen, this is why I ain't do no books. Cousin Miriam, I love you. This is why my book, not an autobiography because rap was going to go 300 years that you know how bad it was for him. I ain't want to compete with this struggle, with like how bad it was. I ain't want to compete with another. You read another. Hey, man, you had a bad, you read, you read brush it, brush it. He slept in a, you know, under light bulb. Yeah. He didn't even have light bulb. Like, who's going to beat that? No. Like I tell you my struggle and then Joe say, we got the light switch. We got the crib. We don't light bulb. But we ain't got no light bulb. But oh, if we had the light bulb, we'd have light. We'll be good. So my apartment in the projects and I'm going to be honest with you, rest in peace. My dad, I cannot believe that he stood for that shit. I just, and my father's always been a hard worker. He probably was just too scared to buy a house or some shit like that. When he died, left me a couple of dollars. My father's not no bum. But I just couldn't believe when I went there, your height went for this shit. How he had his kids in here. How he had his fucking wife in here. This was some bullshit. Even if I was fucked up and I was a baker, mechanic, I'd have got my ass out of that shit. If you don't know nothing. Like as a grown man, as a kid, I ain't know no better. I'm looking at the shit. Leave it on me. Leave it on me. You only hear what you say. When I got grown, it saw that shit I said no. Man, you don't want your pops to have your frame of mind now backed in with the money that was, you got to dig about it. 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Come on, baby. Come on here, baby. Mama got that shit on too. Let me tell you something. Mama got the full length. A-A-A-A-A-Madonna. Nadine, you say how come in with the full length meat, motherfucker now? We're going to need a different color, the same length for her. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. No problem. You heard him now. You don't lie to women. You like this stand up guy. No, he don't. He's an honorable man. Mama, mama, you say you got a full length. Then you lie to the biggest in the game. Mama, mama, you go back how many years can you go back in your family? Like, can you think as far as your grandfather? Can you go to your great- Can you go to your great- Grandfather, grandmother, grandmother. Grandfather, grandmother. I can go to my grandmother and grandfather. So you go back to your grandfather? Yeah, my grandfather. Anybody thought like your son? No. No, he was different then. He's smart. He's caring. He's compassionate. And he been the only child. And I really didn't want any children, to be honest. And then I thought, well, I want to see what my offspring would be like. So I did conceive and had him. Didn't want any more. And he's kind of been self-sufficient. Even that bird, you know, he was no problem. See, was the first kid to go to the all-white private school in the grade at the age of four on the count of his birthday. He came in September and back then we went to school in August. Your birthday came after registration. So we're trying to leave you behind. If we had left you there, so we had to move you to the private school so you could stay ahead. And he's been like as long as he had the good old boy, Get Tarn, and the gang's Pac-Man gangs that he had. And his tricycle that he didn't want to give up for a bicycle. He didn't want that. But any other father, his father was very nurturing and trainable. He, you know, taught him a lot at an early age, like trying to have him drive it. How are you driving over the projects? Driving the car. And he's just been, he's smart. I love him. Okay, Mom, we did. You did good. You know that. Of course. You did good. Go Vlogs, man. Because I like that, you know, when I look at guys like to change and kiss and me and stuff like that, yeah, we might have had great families, great upbringings or whatever the case. But there's something in the mentality of entrepreneurs, you know, go-getters won't stop at nothing, you know. And we talking about this family lineage, and you was right there. So I said, yo, let me ask you, because, you know, they think I'm bugging out when I be like, yo, I could think back into my family as far as I could go. Wasn't nobody really thinking like me, you know? So it was like, I'm trying to figure this out, like the DNA of an artist or something, right? Or, or. It's evolution, man. It's, it's, it's evolution and it's inevitable for, hopefully your bloodline to grow into something, you know what I mean? And it takes your ancestors to build you up to that. But I think eventually you give birth to something that breaks whatever curse that came before that, you know what I'm saying? That becomes the first entrepreneur. Well, I'm not the first entrepreneur, but the first millionaire or whatever that is, you know? I think that's in everybody's family, man. Everybody, it was only a small amount of people that never struggled. Like I just, I just, I just know we all were a part of the struggle. Like I just know we all were, you know what I mean? And, but we're doing a great job of not letting, not letting it happen again. Like moving forward, I know we all have kids that we just pour so much into, you know what I mean? Like for a fact, everybody on here, you know what I'm saying? We just, everybody know we care about our kids, brother. You're just like, so. Mama, what are you most proud of your son? The family man that he is. Mmm, mmm. The father. Congratulations to your daughter too. She just got accepted, right? Yeah, my daughter's headed to college. Yep. She on a senior trip right now, man. And I'm just, need you to come home. Because she went, they went to Mexico. And I did not want her to go to Mexico. I did not want her to go to Mexico. But you know, sometimes the media be, because she having fun, she ain't thinking a big about what's going on over, you know what I mean? But I'm just like, I'm just being that parent that's like, man, all right, you straight, everything cool. But they having a good time. And then I got to have a middle, I have three kids, my middle child is 13. She about to be in high school and then like, a lot of people know my son, hey, look, cause we got a podcast together. And he's 10 years old. And that's what I'm, that's it, man. This is like my little, my little Brady bunch for real. A little drive. I'm the same way with my daughter, you know what I'm saying, product. I ain't plug in. She got a podcast called As If. Y'all want to check her out on YouTube, but I'm the same way. And I've been, and I've been like looking at the house. I've been thinking like the head, I've been like, yo, one day this girl going to get married. Like she not going to be here forever. The perfect, you know what I'm saying? That's crazy when you think about that. You know what I'm saying? Cause you like, yo, she going to leave one day. Like that's crazy. Like house won't be the same without. House won't be the same without the kids. You know, the thing we all, you know, you've heard that there's no manual to teach you how to be a parent, but I think y'all did. The best we could, what we had. And you know, I know my mom did an amazing job with me being a single mother coming from that household, you know what I'm saying? Being joined by the hill. You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying? And just staying down, just if she just knows that I'm an ambitious person. And I got that hustle. I got that grit. And it's just really unexplainable. It's like, for real life being like, it's like being raised by wolves. Just know how to, I keep saying it's just got no how to adapt man. And I think that's one of my super problems. You doing a book tour for the book? Yeah, I'm doing a book tour. I've been in New York a couple of days running around, dropping some gyms about why now, you know what I'm saying? And what's the book about? You know what I mean? And even this right here, it's just like, it's just another way for me to be creative, man. It almost feels like I'm dropping a project. Right. But like, even this cover, it's past ill art done by an artist I found. His name is Dereese Walker. He's an artist. He's like an independent artist, not a part of gallery, but I'm a plug him because he a brother. And he got, so there's a drawing of me. It's not a real picture. This is a drawing. That's fine. Yeah. I'm just everything I do. Fine, Joe. Let me tell you what else I bought this book. Let me tell you what else. But let me tell you what else. Let me tell you what else is fine. If you're not a reader, I understand it's a lot going on. Father Rapids can't read. Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. No, I was on with this one. I'm getting into. I did my audio book. It's in my words. It's fine. Let me tell you why it's fine. I'm finna kill you. The audio book I got production is scoring. So when I'm reading certain parts of the book, you get to hear the scene in the background of the audio. I'm just at over at the other station. I had to do Miss, I had to do Gayle King this morning. Y'all, you know, I'm on platform. You know, I'm Tony, right? I had to do stuff like that. Little, little, little, little, little, little, old white ladies say, I just listened to the audio. She said, it's amazing. She said, it's amazing. Joe, she said, like, she said it had noise and stuff going on at the end. That's just the mind. I have layers. I think in layers. And so this book, the voice in my head is God. It's just me, my interpretation of this, of you, of someone saying, something told me, it's right here. Something told me, something told me to come to the Joe and say, when I come to New York, I got to figure out a way to come. Right with Joe and Jada Khadiz, my God. I'll be honest with you, none of the mother, Gayle Kings and all of them don't matter. It's once you come on this couch that matters. These other guys, playing yourself, why don't you waste some livery? They, like, these people getting got shit movement like us. We got the motion. I'm here. I'm here. You're like, I didn't come here. You're like, you're like, I didn't tell you. I just thought you said it. You said it and I didn't feel it. I told you I was it. I'm here to talk to you. Irritate the competition. Oh, you doing that? This is how I do it. You're the New York nigga, man. Yeah, we on that bullshit, man. We up here, like, we're gonna tell you something. We gotta do it. We're all the time, these guys. A little call for a t-shirt, with a hoodie. It's my favorite Monday. I need an extra large. Show it J2Show.com. Go there and get it. I was young, then like, how about that number one, man? From the book, he turned down hope. He wouldn't get his man, his DJ extra flight. He turned the whole meeting down. That's not, that's not. What the? That's not. That might have not been the right thing, man. Turning down hope? That's not true, man. That's not true. Everything happens for a reason. No, this is just like, I had to quit bringing a man name up because I have other contexts and other things to talk about. But it is, but let me just talk about, let me just tell you about this. It's a chapter in here called JD and Jay-Z on Three Way. So I got a call one day. I read that. Yeah, so I got a call one day with JD on the phone. And I guess him and whole world about to do a partnership. Right? All right. My man that I went right down the corner right now, his name is Tech. His name used to be DJ Tech Neeks, right? So when I first started piping up in the streets, Tech came to me and said, amen, I think you're a star. I said, nigga, me too. You know what I'm saying? And he said, I feel like I can do whoop-dee-whoop-dee-whoo with my resources and blah, blah, blah. And I said, man, if you can run that, if you can help me get that right there, then I'm locked in with you. And we shook hands fast forward like eight, nine months later. I'm piped up. I'm moving around. Yeah. Okay. He's really not a DJ anymore because he's taking more of a management role, right? He's not a DJ. And so when I get this call during the phone conversation, I'm just trying to, and I don't know why I can even articulate this, that I wanted to bring him with me. They's thinking it's a DJ because I'm trying to say his name, but JD really don't even know who this is because it wasn't like he just tapped into Atlanta like that at the particular time. You know what I'm saying? It's like an Atlanta DJ. You know what I mean? And so they're like, bro, what do you, they probably, in retrospect, it probably, I probably sound great. I probably sound stupid saying I'm gonna bring my DJ to me. Like, bro, you don't have no show, but I wasn't trying to do that. I was trying to bring my man's who has said, man, I see some in you. I had already seen some in me, but I just told you how arrogant I was. I used to be frustrated because I'm like, why this ain't happening for me? You know what I'm saying? And it's really about you getting your internal team. Once you get a team together, things can flourish. So once I got my team, I started getting on everybody's radar. So when that call happened and whatever happened throughout the call, I didn't, when I didn't go, I talked about it in the book because people asked me, like, what was the, the head was the voice telling you to do then when big, big homie called, you know what I'm saying? We're a big homie car. And the thing I tell somebody like at that particular time, my moral compass just saying, I ain't want to lead dog and say, I'm going to tell you about the meeting. I can't sit here and tell you I ain't want to fuck with dog. I don't want to do business with dog. I seen the track record. I'm not, I'm not ignorant. I'm highly intellectual actually. But during that particular time, my compass is saying, and so that's another reason why I tell DJs like Khaled or drama or him, you need to take the DJ shit off your name. Niggas think that's your first name. So take that off your name. You know, I got a boy named Rich the Barber used to be a barber. He's rich as fuck right now. And we still call him Rich the Barber, but he'd be like, yo, I'm not barbing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But anyway, so that's the story. It was no, it was not. It was a miscommunication, a mis, they received it. Yeah, because I was excited. I was definitely excited about the car and I was excited too. You know, but this is before, you know, this is before all this stuff. You know, I can't say everything that I've done is right or wrong. This is just like part of, it's just a part of my life. You know what I'm saying? And so, yeah, yeah, yeah. But so I'm, you know, yeah. Obstacles to go through and it, and to me, even when you fall, it's just a lesson. And you got to look at the lesson. Everything don't go your way. You got to look at the lesson. These lawyers right now, they're killing me. These prices is all the way up. These are yesterday price. And I'm just like, yo, Joe, it's temporary, temporary. Keep, keep your head up and keep it moving because certain things happen to you. Where you be like, at that moment, you could be frustrated, but then you just got to look at it and be like, yo, this is a lesson. Everything's a lesson. So it's like, it is what it is. I wish you would have went to see, but you know, You never know, don't how did the Kanye, the Kanye, because to me, that was some of your worst, your not worst, your best work with that whole good family that we're having. You be arcing sometime. Nah, nah, I'm bugged out. I'm not, I'm not, I'm fried. But what I mean is, I love how you was going crazy on that Kanye work. When y'all put that album out together, you would, you was going nuts on them on that joint right there. How did that whole thing come about? Would you like, y'all had like a superpower team push your all of y'all with me, Sean? Well, you know, you ain't calling me. I'm telling you, I'm so piped up, these folks calling me. You know what I'm saying? And they, you called, you said y'all want you to be a member of? I'm calling y'all want you to, I want, you know what I mean? I went through like a love, I won't even call it a boot camp. Like, you know what I'm saying? I don't want somebody to record something now. And I'm fired like that. I call it Benny Hunters. I call it like cooking in front of nigga the little chit, chit, chit, chit, going stripping niggas with my house and shit. I do all that. No fire at all. Yeah, I do. I do the whole heart beat shit. I do, I cook, I love, you know what I mean? So, so, so you want to tell me, you want to tell me, you want to tell me like, let's do a song in front of these people? Like that's one of my, that's one of my things. I'm prepared. I'm bootstrapped and ready. So after I did that a few times and the stuff I'm doing, how level it's not like, you know what I'm saying? No, bootfire, lay it's free or how level, you know what I mean? No cut on it. So after you do that a few times, man, you might get, you might get a few phone calls, Joe. That's all I can tell you, Joe. Hey, your phone might start burning, Joe. I sit here with this guy all the time. He top five, dead or alive. That's what you mean? Nasty man. Hey guys, they be like, yo, can I get your number, kiss, I need you on a song. No, nobody asked me to be on a song. I'm gonna just say it be rich as fuck. No, no, no, no. That's all I'm gonna do. Every time they come to him, yo, kiss. I want to do a song with you. I'll be like, yo, did you see the links? What do you want me to do? Like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Joe, you get out, Joe. Joe, you, Joe, let me tell you something, man. You, you, I'm gonna tell you this right here, man. You, you, you, I'm gonna tell you something, man. You, you make wonderful song, man. You're a great songmaker, bro. I'm gonna, I'm gonna come, when it comes to my top to bottom, like a song for a song, you do that shit. That's like, that's what you like, you fire, bro. You changed nobody gives me nothing. Yeah, you're a good song, man. You ain't gonna play. Yo, some props every show. Man. Man, you don't give a shit. I'm at the Nick game with him. Every rapping, yo, son, I need you on a song. No, but he liked that, though. You don't give a shit about me like I'm chop-level. No, no, no, no, no. Kiddo, get out the pop. Because he rags his butt. It's out the pop. You know what I'm saying? The nigga bougie. That's a bougie. You don't even want to miss the house. Like, what's going on? Ain't nothing, no, no, no, no, no, man. You don't got bougie. You the bougie uncle. The bougie. Bring one more surprise guest. Got nothing to do with you, but I was coming up and I seen him and I said, your brother come to my brother G-Dap. Come here for a second, G-Dap. The deputy. Malham's on. G-Dap. Let's get Mom. All right, thank you, Mom. Thank you, Mom. Thank you, Mom. Thank you, Mom. You look beautiful, baby. Thank you, baby. My mama says, my mom be 76 this year. You don't want to buy my mom. My mama might not be 76. 76. She'll be 76 this year. Come on. Let me give you another surprise. You go to Daniel Lover that fur on me. You pick out whatever you want. Man, I can't. Get some shit. I like that. Make a touch the ground. Oh, damn. Mama, make sort of fur drag on the floor. It's on me. Oh, man. They capping New York City. Yo, yo, yo, yo. That's no cap. Yo. Who that right now that is, mama? It's no cap. I don't play those games. Yeah, I don't play those games. Yo, G-Dap. Yo, I mean, I introduced them. When they came in, I introduced them. Changed it down. Hey, I'm telling you, man. It's real. What the fuck? I have shit right there. Niggle. Fuck. It's still. Bruh. Still. Look, I told them about something. I told them a little while ago. It's still hard. There's no lean back if it's no G-Dap. OK. When I was writing that verse, I was thinking G-Dap, the whole time. He had to take that from his flow, keep going. Like, I don't know how to explain it to you, but it kept coming. Like, which flow? Holy God. Yeah, he got rain. Which flow? He got different ones. G-Dap. Man, home. He had, at the time, was so on fire that he was just, he had like a continued, like, I don't give a fuck about fours and this happens. We from the Bronx, New York, shit. Kids clapping. Spock. You see? That was that G-Dap. Chopped liver. No, no, no. I'm just saying, that was that G-Dap. That was that G-Dap, man. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, at least in my mind, I thought I was rapping like G-Dap. Me and you, man. We was off Bad Boy already, and I was on the C's album, and he got a song with him, C's and Buster. He was, I'm like, who the hell is, they like, that's G-Dap, man. Why? It's crazy. That's crazy, man. The Rush, right? What's this name of that song that, um, someone with more dangers. Yeah, sure. Yeah, sure. Dap, you been home close to what, a year now? Almost two years. No, no. Make some noise for that. Thank you, man. Thank you, man. Man, it's beautiful on this side, man. No doubt on this one, right? Yeah, man. I seen you on a freestyle on YouTube. You was killing it up on that joint. You still got it, man. Thank you, brother. Appreciate it. Tell me you got a project with him and Black Rob that's coming out. Oh, that's good. Get on that. You should work with everybody. Everybody's going to be. You don't want to be a man. I'm not a be-all. You don't want to be in a business, and I'm not. I mean, I got to tell them. I'm listening. You don't front on Fat Joe. You tell it to me. It's okay. I'm trying to vote, man. Man, it was a one-off. Man, listen. What? Fat Joe, he's scared that. It was a one-off. Fat Joe, bougie, man. It bougie, man. Out of this range. You caught side everywhere you go. Oh, you on risk. You on risk to Bob. Yeah. I was going to say, yo, man. Yo, let me tell you something. Yo, but G Gap, man, we proud of you being home for two years. Definitely. Out of the world. And because you and it. So you got cell phones in there when you was locked up, or you wasn't crazy when you came home. Because I knew when you first came home, I could tell what was moving out here, or the way the shit was looking was like weird to you. Like you was in jail how many years? 13. You came out, it was modern technology. I could tell. But watching you on the ground, I was like, oh, man. This guy, he got adjusted. I said, he going to get it. It doesn't usually anybody. It was off the street foot. But it was, you know, they had, we had the tablets in there. So we kind of, you know what I mean? We had a little ex-chemolidics, like the little icon movement, long and out. But it was definitely a culture shock when I came home. And things was different right there. Everything was just so instant, you know what I mean? All right, I tell everybody, you know, before I left, you couldn't order for McDonald's and all that. Like just, you know, somebody can't even. You know, that's the crazy thing. Now you watch TV. Look, ring your bell and pass it. You know what I'm saying? It sounds like, what? You watch TV and the thing just says, if you want to order this right now, order. It could be a big, this guy's wearing a shirt on, city lab. You don't want to order right now. I swear to God. It's like that on the TV. You don't want to order the video game. Too care. You go order sneakers. You can order, you can get to sneakers on them. Yeah. They got everything. You got two chains. Two chains. Let me tell you something. The guard in my head is an ill title. The voice in my head is God, man. The voice in my head is God. You been doing some offside. You been doing some real offside stuff. Oh, I got to throw. Yeah, I don't even know. God in my head is the ill title. Yeah, you all got flags, man. Oh, he's new. The voice in my head is God. Ain't the wrong title. Man, your ass burnt, man. Hey, man. Hey, you're a burnt type. Hey, Joe. Hey, I ain't gonna lie. This, like, this has been in hundreds of y'all. I'm just like, seeing you through the screen different. Like, this, man, you burnt out for real, boy. Like, when I see it, I'm like, man. I'm like, yeah, I'm saying. You're crying for real? I ain't know. Oh, you thought I was going to go? No, right. This close to you. No, something wrong. I'm looking at you, bro. You tripped me something. Yo, man. I ain't gonna lie. What you worried about? Man, I always say my head is God. The voice in my head is God. If you can read, it's a great read. If you get audio files. Audio files. Audio files. My audio is going to get an Emmy or something. I'm going to do Grammy. Oh, they do Grammys for the audio? Oh, God, I'm going to get it, bro. Man, you're a bad boy. They do Grammys for the audio. Audio in. Yo. Look, who got the last one, dawg? Who got the last one? Look, I see he googling that shit. Dolly Lama won the last one. Dolly Lama. That's you. Don't worry about it. Yo, you got that? The Dolly Lama won it last. Really? Yeah. Man, let me tell you something. The name of this book is... The voice in my head is God. Thank God I ain't get a flag. Don't know me. Yo, listen. Thank you. Thank Mama for coming through. You know, that's the biggest. You know what I'm saying? And uh... And they got... Thank Nadine. Thank the deputy. Man, we had a whole list of them. It's... Right? It's crazy. So you all get the book. She got... You gotta get the book. You know, I'm a big Two Chainz fan regardless. You know what I'm saying? So if you... All your albums, I get them. You know what I'm saying? I like the Two Chainz album on the fucking airplane. Where I ain't got no distraction. I'm going to LA. I play that shit. And then you know, Natina's your number one fan. She was talking... Big shit. Like, yo, Two Chainz just dropped. You gotta get this. I'm like, yo, Natina, I'm gonna... Nah, you gotta get it. You know what she like that. She... Yeah, she all out Natina for sure. So she... So she... And uh... What was the shit today? We were singing up... There comes the time... Where you need an opening. Yo, this ain't that. That ain't this. This cracking kiss. Make some noise for Two Chainz and I'm guest today. Thanks. Help! Help! Help!