Calling Out Porsche People! The Cars to Import in 2026! Next Doug Car Already?

Hello and welcome to this car pod. I'm Kenan. I'm Nick. And this is a special Christmas edition of this car pod recorded weeks ago because we are lazy and we don't want to record during the holidays. I'm in Ohio currently. Kenan's in Ohio, Nick is God knows where. Anyway, this special Christmas edition, ho ho ho, by the way, this special edition all we're doing is answering previous questions that you've asked us before that we didn't get to because we can't, we're not filming this recently. So we can't do the news. You know, I got some future predictions for the news if we did one too. Oh, okay. You know, some things, some industry predictions. I think that's a good idea. All right. Why don't you start? Well, let's start there and then we'll move on into the questions that we've prepared. Jaguar is making a New Year's resolution. Yeah. To be back on cars. They're going to start making them designing them. Yep. There will be multiple Stellantis recalls because they're Stellantis. Another EV will get killed. Another V8 will come back. I think it's pretty predictable. If you watch these episodes, you kind of know where the world's going. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Okay. Anyway, thank you so much, Nick. I appreciate that. Nick, what do you think about Slate? Oh, yeah. This is where my populist political beliefs will come out. Because it's affiliated with Bezos, I'm kind of off it. You know, there are people out there who think. I know. He's an investor, whatever. I just, if I can avoid Amazon, I do. So, oh, wow. So, you just don't use politics right here in minutes. Yeah. All right. Let's, we're going to do questions. You guys have always been lovely and asked us questions. And if you want to ask us questions for the next pod, which we're going to record, topically, you go to carsandbinds.com, you click on the community tab. There's a post there that says, ask us questions and then you ask us questions. This week, we've gone through weeks of old questions. I've picked the best ones we didn't answer before. Okay. Are you guys ready? I've got 20 some. We'll probably get to half of them. I'm excited for this. Okay. First question from Doug's not a Porsche guy, which by the way, true. I love it. But he's a Mercedes guy. Get it right. No, I have no affiliation. Kia Stinger GT guy. I did love that car. Doug and friends, you guys are the friends. Yeah. So, Santa. Thank you. Thank you, Santa. Big neck. Big neck. Big neck. Energy. And why? Well, Nick, I think we all know Kenan, right? Kenan's is E30. I think I'm fine. Yeah. Yes, it will. And it will. Yes, it was. Kenan lights his ether. I don't know if we've ever made this point in the pod before, but Kenan lights his E39. I don't think I've ever mentioned that. So, yes, I really enjoy my. If you don't know, he's got a silver titanium silver. Yep. It's a 2002 black sport interior. Is that the one with the V8? Oh, yes it is. Yes, it is. Nick, you've got a lot of cars. How many cars of you had, do you think? I've lost count, but enough. Yeah. I don't know. That's a really hard question. They all, like, great for different purposes. I think about which one I, like, loved the most. You know, like, just has that, like, weird feeling. I think. It's got to be a B7 Audi. So, the RS4 was the best one, but, like, B7s are really what got me, like, just overboard on cars. So, probably the S4 that I had, Olens, I had a big brake kit, I tracked it. We had a lot of fun with that car. Okay, a couple things. First off, there's road colored glasses going on here. Yep, absolutely. Ginger, we've got my way. So, hold on to me. So, the Barrego. You loved your, your, your, your, your Mercedes. I did. Your Mercedes-Benz logo. The Barrego was at the XPA. It was also the XPA, through my head. But I, my Metro World forums are paying him to be here today and here. I don't know to shut up to forums, racers and all that stuff. You really see you did, I mean, you know, Nick. Yes, absolutely. But I can't. Pull up a B7. Pull up a B7. That's all, like, nine. Okay. Pull up a B7. No, no, on the side. Go back to the site. Pull up a B7. Let's let Nick go down memory lane. Yeah, I mean, I think the, the RS4 was the better car, but it might S4, I just loved. There you go. A4S line. No, no, that's the one. That's the one. That's the one. A4, this is basically what he's talking about. A4S line. Yeah, look at that. It was a great interior. I've considered, so I've had the A4S4 and RS4. I haven't done a cab yet, a convertible, and I haven't done an avalanche yet. So there may be, I'm just for sure, I'm putting it out there that if a fourth one comes around, that is too good to say no to, I wouldn't say no to it. Dude, the B7 may have. He, yeah. A B7 RS4, I'm legitimately, like, waiting until they're 25 years old to import one. Oh, wagon. Yeah. I've thought about trying to convert one, but it's, it's a lot of work. What else we got here that you would have done the B7 front? Anything in spring blue. You would have B7 as 4 and not a B6. There will be sevens. I'm always preferred the B6. Did you not? No. Uh-uh. You didn't like those wheels? No. No. It was fine, but the B7 was everything but better. It's like the RRC to the P38. It's everything just a little bit better. I'm going to tell you right now, nobody thinks that. I think it. Nobody. All of my P38 friends. The only people who think the P38 was the improvement over the RRC are on the P38 Facebook group. We'll go ask the RRC guys. Talk about how undervalued. I added RRC. Oh, good and ruster pair right now because this car was made poorly. I wish I had a P38. That's what they're all saying. No, no. No, no. With a Range Rover Classic, which is the A to P38. They have enough problems and their car is better looking and simpler. They have enough problems because it was V1, a V2.0 of God's masterpiece. V2 was much worse now. Does it ever, do you ever like the fact that Range Rover couldn't, you know how BMW is all, E28, E39, E46. Land Rover went through so many BS owners at aiming conventions that it was classic. P38, L322 makes no sense. Yeah, none at all. Actually, no. Actually, truly are internal cars. There was no, they're not designed to know. It's a disaster. So yeah, that's my final answer. I'm locking in the B7. And he says, how are you varied? Even the front wheel drive CBT. I enjoyed that car. I drive CBT with that six LEDs and a ton of great mods. Sorry, SLR, move over mercy. Bye bye, R8. How can you save it? Look at that, look at that RS4. The wide fender. I agree. Those are the perfect wheel. Look at your, they pretty much invented honeycomb mesh. Like that was a new thing in that era. Yeah. I mean, just they killed it. But how can you say that? This is the E39M5 of outies. No, totally. Yeah, definitely. But how can you say this? You had a stick, he doesn't have enough time for his stick mercy. You know, I'll tell you this. My first car was a 1996 Volvo 850 Turbo. Pull up a name 50 Turbo. And a boxy one. Yeah. And a 5 cylinder, wasn't it? Turbo 5. Yeah. Turbo 5. And it looked a lot like that. That's an R, but it does not have R wheels. It has Turbo wheels. That's how my car looked. It was white. And, um, I like, like you, I, for years after getting rid of it, I ideal, oh, God, missmate, 50 Turbo, missmate, 50 Turbo. Years later, I drove one again. And needless to say, have a misted sense. The clothes of the boy do not fit the man. And he would discover that if he got it back into a B7. Yeah. I wouldn't, is it? I wouldn't be seven like three years ago, but it was ours for if you got back into the B7 for a few just espoused. I have a suspicion. It wouldn't last. Perhaps. But I feel like it's a cheat to just say my fastest car or my most expensive car. I mean, I'm going with the car that I had the deepest emotional bond with like Kenan is 839. I was Mr. B7. I lived it and breathed that it was a seminal point of my childhood and adulthood. Yeah. So that, so it's, it's one kind of, it's got history to you person. Yeah. Personally, my favorite car I've ever owned is really hard, you know, like them all equally, et cetera, et cetera, like, instead of whatever. I've had 38 cars. Geez. You probably had 38 cars. Hmm. If I count that cast. I bet I'm, I'm bet I'm like 20. I'm in the hundreds. But you're, you're moving a lot. So again, it's picking up five years. You're definitely going to be more than that. Yeah. You're having like six cars a year. It's probably a violation of it. It's just getting close to Deely. I'm going to Phoenix next week and I've already updated my Facebook marketplace to target who peace in that area. So yes, it's a, if a Ford lightning, if you got a Ford lightning, you're trying to offload this Christmas and Scottsdale in Mesa. Yes. Put it on, put it on Facebook right now. Make a lot of good use. You got to tell a sport. You got to tell a sport. I'm not coming in. But I think my favorite is probably the Kuntosh, which I, is currently owner and just love Deely, dearly, dearly, dearly. That's what I'm saying. I'm so excited every time I'm in it. That's what I was predicting you were going to say. It's not the most usable. If I only look at cars that I have gotten rid of, that 2001 E55, pull up one of those. I just want to look at it. Wow. The 2001 E55 is my. That's like your B7. Yeah. It's not that great by today's standards. Well, the thing that made it so great was that it was super reliable. It was pretty fast, but it was also roomy and reliable and comfortable. And at the time, when I owned it, I was like 25. I didn't need any of that stuff. But in the years since that I've realized, like, actually, it's been great. And you know how you have that focus as like a third car that you just sort of use when guests, whatever? I want to get one of these for that. Yeah, a little just reliable. Yeah, have you don't have to treat incredibly nicely. That's, that's the point. This is doable. That's a very achievable. Well, I want to wagon, which is a little bit more. That makes it harder. That's a little bit harder. A little bit more. Then you'll be precious about learning it out though, because that's legitimately cool. It is a 99. And I only do facelift cars. Well, we haven't had one yet. No, no one has. They're uncommon, but I'm starting the procedure of looking for one. Wow. But I do like my. Well, you got me back into cars. Good. You got me deep back on cars. I don't know if you got me off cars. I always think this are nudge on to me, the multiple. Oh, come on. You guys are just feeding me bad idea. By the time this pot airs, I'm not sure if this will be if all of it all announced this yet, but I really want an E30 M3 sport. Evo and I really want a 210 E55 wagon. And I am ready. I think to buy either one. Can't wait to hear about this for months after you've already bought one. You, you started this. Cool. I was off cars. I've heard for years. I didn't buy a car. Yeah. And then you showed up and you were like, I'm having all this fun. And then you did dumb stuff and got out of it. OK, eventually. Yeah. And I'm like, well, I can do dumb stuff and get out of it. Look at all these entries. You see these? Look at that. Take this car. This is what I want. This car, but five more horsepower for 150,000 more power. Completely right. Sounds great. It's good sense. So anyway, I'm interested. OK, should we do our next question? I guess. I'm so excited to get Ken and his view on. Oh, here's a great one. Your personal information is more exposed than you think. 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From Atticus Ripple, this is actually on the same vein of what you're just talking about. OK? I'm talking to you, Morgan Friends. Again, you're the Friends. Well, how sentimental about previous cars are you? As someone in the Kenan camp of cart maintenance, I wonder how much emotional way you carry in cars. Kenan, how sentimental about previous cars are you? Extremely. I'm a very emotional person. So there are some cars for which my hatred knows no bounds that I've owned. And there's a sentimentality to that. But there is a sentimentality to that. Yeah, I feel strongly in very emotionally about all of my cars. But yeah, sentimentality drives a lot of the reason that I have the cars that I want, the cars that I keep. There's a lot of, I'm very emotional about my things. Watches to my things. I like my things. And by the way, we're in the middle of watch season, folks. Oh. Early days, though. This is watch season. Yes. I, being from Ohio, in the winter time, you put away the cars and you can't use them. So what I do in that time, I'd fill that time by recent approaches. We're in the right time pieces. That's right. You know what? You see this thing? That is really cool. It's an SLR edition watch. So I'm not to take hard. I'm on car watches. Yeah. See? Yeah. So I took it in to get the battery replaced. And the guys like, sir, there's no battery in this. It's an automatic. And so it's like, you just need to shake your risk more. And I left feeling like, and it's like, well, I'm to the gas pump. I got some hard work to do in watch season here. OK. When you say that you're sentimental about cars, what do you mean? You look at your old cars. You look up their vins. You think about them. You have glossies on your wall of your bed. I do think about the head momentus from them. So like I have like from my first car, my 525, I still have the windows sticker. And I still look back at pictures that car. I really love that car. It was really, really loved it. It was 190 horsepower. It was. But it was my first. It was a great first car. And it was a manual. And it was blue. And I just really love that car. But yeah, I looked back fondly on a lot of the great memories I've made with all of them. That's the most important aspect of owning any of these cars to me. It's just like the U39. It's like the reason I feel so sentimental about that is I closed the door. And I'm right back to where I was when I was dreaming about owning that car as a kid. And now I have one. And so it just hasn't faded for me. And the sentimentality is what drives that. You ever thought to be a little armchair psychology stare that you get too attached? You know, maybe it caused you to over invest in maintenance or make sort of illogical decisions. Well, yes, love is not rational. Oh, so you didn't. So I would argue that it's important to love things that can love you back, like how I love Nick. Yes, but the M5 provides me with so much joy every time I use it that it does love you back. In a way, it provides me what I'm looking for from an automobile. So yeah, it gives me what I want. Then yes, it is very expensive and things. But I just want it to always function and want to be around for as long as I can drive the car. So no surprise, the person who spends so much money on the car is invested sentimentally and emotionally invested in the car. So it's called commitment bias. I'm not sure. Is it? It's more of a sunk cost fallacy, actually. No, there's no fallacy. No, it's not fallacy. Well, I mean, you sunk a lot of money into it. So therefore you feel like, oh, I got to love this. But that's not going to make it so deep. I mean, so deep I might look like going. That would be sunk. You know, you can tell sometimes you're with people and there's some stuff. No, this is true love. He truly loves. It's not like one of the situations where you know the couple and you want to say something to the guy like you should get out of this or to the woman like I don't think so. To this, this is a merger of equals. That's my favorite part of the holidays is catching couples that are normally very harmonious is quietly bickering. You know, you talk to the dogs and the crars, you know? And you're like, oh my gosh, they're going to murder each other when we, but we're just getting the quick, the little brown M&M, like the first canary in the coal mine before they just, you know, take kind of like an E39M5 last summer. Sitting home, Nick's family in Ohio takes us back to the Panera Bread. I'm not going to put my family. Nick, do you get sentimental? Do you get sentimental attached to your cars? Do you think about the money shift TTRS? No. I think the velocity of which I've been turning over cars, I think I'm probably of anything over or two unsentimental towards the cars. But there are fun memories of them. And then I have recreated the P38 experience. I have thought about getting another Chilean XB8. So I'd say like it's a balancing act. But do you specifically the ones that you have? Do you ever mourn their loss? Do you think about them? Do you have keepsakes? Funny enough, they're mercy. So there's been a few cars like that B7S4. I tried to sell it one, so then I like backed out. I'm like, I can't sell it. I just love this car too much. I regretted doing that. I did like a year later, I sold it for way less money. So now I've kind of like realized once I get the itch to sell a car, it's time. And waiting is only worse for me. So I've sort of learned to just listen to that. Like the mercy, I still loved that car, but I was also like, it's time. But I know it's time, and it's time for something new. And if I hold off now, I'll wait six or 12 months, I'll probably get, you know, it just, like all the signs are pointing at you, it's time to let go. So when you let go, you let go. Yeah, now I've like totally let go. I'm still in the owners groups and like, poking around a little bit. But you don't have emotional at this point. I don't have a year to get back in the mercy right now. Okay. The question was, how's the most about previous cars? Are you, my answer is literally zero. Yep, I knew that about you. Which is literally zero. You would trouble letting go of your defender 90. I feel you were sentimentally attached. No, he did. Nope. He was all of us. Many other people in his life were attached to that car. But not him. We can't let someone's trying to talk you into, like helping you talk off the ledge between that and the G cab. I feel like I definitely am attached to the G cab, which I currently own. I have no attachment to the yellow car. I saw that to a guy in upstate New York. Don't you famously look up the car facts of all your vehicles? I carfax him once a year. That's a little stalker. No, no, no, no. That's like, oh, yeah, look up my high school girlfriend on Facebook once a month, but I'm not, I'm not, I'm over it. It depends on the purpose. I mean, like I look up some people from high school just to make sure that I'm living better than them, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Nick understands. He wasn't the biggest boss in his neighborhood at a Lambo. But, right, he's got his profile picture of Nicky at a Lambo at a race suit. Actually, I'm rocking the QP5 on Facebook. Thank you. But I do carfax him. I'm always curious to see where they went. But I never like yearn. There is not a ounce of me that wants any of those cars back. I never want to hear from the people who have them. I do not care if they get an accident and totaled and destroyed which some of them have. I don't care if they, if they kill people in Florida as one of them did, none of it matters to me. But there are experiences you would like to repeat. The W210 being a good example. But it, but to me, that was a thing. It was a thing of metal and glass and bolts. Like I can get another thing like that. And honestly, that car now has 150,000 miles. I don't want that thing back. I want a different thing that probably provides me with a sort of similar, do you know what I mean? I know it. There's certainly the experiences in some of the cars. I enjoy the memories. This one being the best example that. But I'm not trying to buy one on these back. And if I was, I would, you know, like anybody is, oh, I missed this car. Well, you want to get one? I don't miss it that much. It's all like any of these cars I can't buy back. I know some people who are in that situation where they sold the car and then the values took off and they can't afford. Like I can get a W210. It's $14,000. But like if I really missed it, I would. But I don't. You know, the cars I yearn to get back are ones that I never owned, but I had like a exposure to it. So examples, my dad's friend had a 1967 GT500 KR Mustang. Oh, wow. He let me drive in high school and do a burnout. It's always whenever I see a green with white stripe, GT500 KR, I look at the car facts and figure out, okay, was this in Columbus? And if so, maybe it's the one and I should buy it. My grandpa had an E-type. I'm going to strap you right there. Can you do you want to ask him about it? Well, Columbus, how do you look at the car facts? If you don't, well, not a car, but you can look at the ownership history and some of it. You get a Marty report. You can kind of figure it out. Marty, not car facts, but that usually it's like some level of owner documentation still in there. You post on the forum every year. Oh, when someone comes up for sale, you know, you was this the right up on the list and would you buy such a car? I don't. Those in particular, very expensive, but my grandpa's E-type same thing. If that came around and it could be viable for the right price, I'd be like, oh, sentimentally. You know, any time anyone does that, I always wonder like after the first couple of years, are you just like, well, I don't even think it's the first couple of weeks. Because you got grandpa's E-type and it's like, okay, we got grandpa's E-type, but at some point you have a vehicle in your garage that you don't use much and grandpa sat in it 45 years ago, but like, well, I mean, I'm not sentimental about cars or property or anything like that. I don't get into that kind of stuff that much, but I guess there are some people who would not feel that way. But to me, it's like, when you're done with it, you move it on and you don't think about it again and you hope never to hear from the guy who bought it. Now, the guy who bought this, which is the car that I was certainly had the most personal attachment to, he does send me a message of his often. I like to hear what's going on with it, but I'm not, I don't look at the pictures and think, oh, my Ferrari, how the guy bought my Ferrari sends me a note every now to get to tell me that the car has been perfectly reliable for me. He hasn't had an issue and I'm like, every time, but then the last. Myrnaj, guy, message me. He was the same guy, right? No, different guy. I think I bid on mine, but did not win it. And he said the battery was dead because the alarm went off the entire way from San Diego to Tennessee. But he's like, I figured out how to turn the alarm off and it's great. This thing is so fast and fun. Oh my God. Car shipper's gonna ship, you know? Yep. Yep. All they said is they get it from point A to point P that didn't say they'd turn off the alarm. Okay, next question. Did you drove it with the alarm going to hold? I guess. I mean, presumably the battery died somewhere in Texas. Yeah, I killed the bad man. I want to haul across the country. Can't hear it. The reason was you had a, you had a, there's like an alarm sensor rendered or something. Yeah, I think like a toe sensor. So it was out of tilt and that was enough. But yeah. Okay, next question. This one is from Sebway. And I want you both to weigh in on this, even though it's for me, I want to hear your takes before I provide my monstrously outsized, ridiculous outburst take from Sebway. Question for Doug, have you heard of the Rare Shades Festival? No. It's a festival dedicated to Porsche cars and different colors from the paint to sample program. Oh, you've never heard of it. No. My question is, how much would they have to pay you to attend or will they attend next year's event now that he's officially a Porsche guy? Well, let me do the math. Will I attend? I carry the one. Under absolutely no circumstances ever. How about the questions? How much do they have to pay me? I mean, I'd probably do it for 100 grand post tax. 100 grand post. You wouldn't do 50 grand post? Where is it? Is it an L.A., you think? If it's an L.A., for 50 grand post and I can go up and go back the same day, I would talk about it. What's it called? Rare Shades Festival. If it's in the Bay, 100 is my number, seriously. Nick, tell me your thoughts on the Rare Shades Festival. Would I go or would you be convinced? No, what do you think about people meeting up to show off the colors of their Porsche's? I mean, it is great and that it gets all of those people off the road and away from me at one time. That car's in coffee, in that area, in that vicinity, that week will be amazing. Because all of those people will just be elsewhere. Yeah, they're elsewhere. They don't have to come to our cars. It's at a Ritz Carlton, too. This is a first in Kansas. It's like, as you would say, it's like they're making fun of their own customers. You know? Oh, man. Well, what I've discovered is that there is a large contingent of Porsche enthusiasts who care more about their spec than the driving experience of their car. And I think it's probably the single most pathetic thing that goes on in the automotive industry today. I do think it's actually for those people, though, that'll be really fun. I do think buying the car in the right color is incredibly important. So I can agree with a lot of it. I think the problem is that they just take it a little too far. But they're by the car and only want to talk about the color. Right. Like, we have that mutual friend on Instagram who did like a Oscar, thank you. Like an Oscar's Academy Awards, thank you, as it's to his dealer. I want to thank Porsche of whatever for the opportunity to buy this paint to sample car. It was like, this is the most pathetic thing. I've seen it my entire life. And the fact that they then don't drive the cars. Like the driving experience is the thing. Yep. The cool color is cool. And I'm into the people who buy it for the driving experience and then also get some weird color. And that's cool. I'm into that. But the people who attend these things, zero mile trailer to the thing, factory recommission, because they wanted this perfect. Yeah. That is sad. Yeah, I agree. I remember earlier this year seeing a GT3 RS brand new one, you know, cars designed to be driven hard on the track. Like really take the abuse. Yeah. And it was a PTSD color of some kind. And this guy just got out of it and immediately started drying it off because it bit slightly sprinkled on with rain. You know, you're missing the point. I was in a car with a coffee with a certain mutual friend who was a little worried about some dew on their spoiler this week. Yes, Gary on ZF355 was a little worried. I just don't get into any sort of behavior. To me, a car is about the drive. Yeah. And the thing about the rare shades thing is, it is literally the opposite of that. It's like celebrating, you're celebrating like the way it's optioned in the spec. Nice spec, nice spec, unreal. Oh my god, the spec is so nice. And I just think that is so far from the intent. And those people want to do that, that's fine. But I just would prefer they not come to my events or talk to me, dude, the biggest problem since getting the arena, the sense the turbo. All of them come up to me now. Yeah. Oh man, I had it this, I got it this, I got it and it's in flush and blue from orange. And I don't know what that is and I don't care. Like I truly don't care. I got one with no sun roof. It was only no sun roof for six months and 87. Literally, I'm not one of you. I joke about not being a portion guy, but like I don't, I can't handle those. Like men, so I can't handle those conversations. Like don't come at me with that. You would appreciate it. So I broke my other MacBook and I took it in for a repair. And the guy recognized me as Doug's friend. No way. But he wasn't authorized to help me. So he just chatted with me for like 20 minutes while I was waiting for my actual appointment. But it was like, oh boy, I hope he's not a PTSD kind of guy. But he was actually a cool enthusiast. But sometimes you get trapped in those conversations and you're like, I literally can't leave. But again, I understand why. Because the cars are so ubiquitous because they're mass-produced cars that portion just pumped out. Yeah. And so if you want to distinguish your 87 career of like the different colors a big deal. So I get that but I agree. The story that is untold the cars don't drive very well. The story that's untold about that exact thing is that like ultimately these cars are not that special. They're special almost entirely because of the way they drive. And but if you're not capable of exploiting that, then you go down the, oh, I would have a cool spec kind of thing. But this question related to this, what festival, if it was incredibly tailored to a very specific niche, would you go? I would do the rare colors festival or whatever for B7 RS4s. There are four Suzuki gray ones on the planet. One has been totaled. If all four showed up, I would be there. I would pay 100 grand to a test. Suzuki gray, it wasn't the most common color. It's like a slightly off white. It's white with like a touch of gray. But it's, Nick, you're sitting here complaining. Perfect. I hope those portion people are off the road. So I don't have to deal with them. He's over here talking about Suzuki gray. One of the four is a total. It's a B7. It's God's chariot. Yeah. No, it isn't. What, what weird event would you attend? You would go to like a GCab. I mean, I would go to a GCab. I would never go to any event with fellow GCab owners. I got to think about what I would be legit. You have Travis Scott, Kylie Jenner. I would never want to be around. I would go to a non-red Ferrari. I would never go to a GCab event where all the frows were everywhere except for. There is no color event that I would. If you had to pick one of these, you're saying for a bar. You would go to like a press color event. I would go to press color. That would be good. Press colors of normal cars from the 1980s, 90s through 2008. That's all I want. Press colors of normal cars. I want to see like the Dodge and Trepid and that weird light blue that they had. I want to see the Cadillac CTS and the Copper. Like that's, yes. You know, the other point slot, Maxima in the Copper. 6M3 in Phoenix, yellow. It's not normal enough. The other color event we could do that I would go to and you would to would be the Sultan of Brunei Festival. Yeah. Yellow on red car or red on yellow car. As well as any car that was rescued from him may it. Or golf themed interior car. Yeah. Yeah. If you have like a golf interior that counts. They counts. What about Harlequin? That's a festival I'd go to. Yeah. Volkswagen Harlequin Golf. It'd be interesting. It'd be an interesting crowd. We're getting close to Redwood at that point. Yeah. Kind of all this honestly tailored right into Redwood. Yep. This episode of this car pod is brought to you by AutoCast. And as a parent like me, this is honestly one of the most useful in car products I've come across. You plug AutoCast into a car that already has wired Apple CarPlay and it gives you wireless CarPlay, which is great. But the real reason I love this is the real time rear view feature. It lets you see your baby kids or even pets live on your car's screen while you're driving. There's no recording, no uploading, nothing stored anywhere. It's just a live feed. So you get peace of mind without any privacy concerns. It also has night vision. So you can clearly see what's happening in the back seat on nighttime drives. Plus, a 150 degree wide angle that shows the entire row of seats. 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I've never, well, I've driven through Nebraska, but I have not on that drive driven through Nebraska. Not the best. I think I mean, have you ever driven, no, your longest drive was to Monterey? Probably here. Sedona. Imagine that. He got his like to drive. You know what he should do. I don't like my rares. I don't like my noteness road trips. My noteness. You see the country. You get a wrist. You see the country. The nation is. I think once you're west of Denver and you start to get into the mountains, then it becomes pretty stressful. I 70 through Colorado is the most beautiful section of interstate in the country. There's no question. Yeah, and it's just for the, what? When I did it the first time, I mean, I had driven and skied there. So I knew it was like my friend Ryan hadn't seen it. And I watched someone experience that the first time it is. That's specifically that stretch of interstate because interstates are normally so wide and slow and boring with small curves. And that one is later told, you know, I was a kid growing up in Denver. When you're coming down the freeway at the freeway at I 70, there's runaway truck ramps. Yes. And I just as a kid, I thought all freeways must have runaway. Like that's normal. That was normal. That was the only freeway we ever drove on. It must have runaway truck ramps. And I discovered later that that's not actually normal. It wasn't a broski. You can just kind of just go off the whole states. You don't lose your brakes because you're not riding your brake. That's right. But it literally never occurred to me as a child that that was something that wasn't just commonly done in interstate highways. It's really beautiful. However, on that drive across the country and Antica, I'd go through the south and I'm going to throw you a curveball here. Most beautiful state, Arkansas, Tennessee. Love, really? Arkansas, there are times I'm on that drive with my family's not with me, right? And I'm like two days on the road away from my family. And I get off to get gas in Arkansas, you know, and there's trees everywhere. And there's like a little creek. And there's like a swamp kind of and like this butchbirds. And I think to myself, you know, I could just keep going. I could just get off onto this county road and by myself, a nice, nice property in Arkansas. And the race chickens, you know, like, well, okay. That's so beautiful. The south is so beautiful. And specifically, the like densely green south. Yeah, I've developed a real affinity for the south. Even when we went to I'm so I went to road Atlanta. And just like the roads out there, so really are beautiful and stuff and have beautiful lakes. A lot of trees, yeah, just trees. These Tennessee, we have friends in Chattanook and I love Chattanook. I'm on Chattanook, Zillow all the time. And I'm always dreaming. Always dreaming. Meanwhile, Nick, Nick's favorite spot is Mesa, Mesa Arizona. Wait, so, so okay. So you're saying most beautiful state, either Tennessee, Arkansas, at least favorite state. I think he's Tennessee on the interstage, that I drive through because Western part of Colorado is incredibly beautiful. But East Tennessee on the interstate, you drive through some beautiful mountains and cross some incredible winding rivers and hills cited. Yeah, the worst state to drive through on that drive. I mean, I guess it's Oklahoma. I'm a guy from the middle of country. I love the middle of country. I love a lot of those places. I don't like hate. I don't hate anyone as a place. It's North Texas. I will take that back. I 40 through North Texas is the worst part of the world. Just nothing. Sorry to say. It's Amarillo. And if we've just lost our Amarillo viewers, I'm sorry, but also you know, you're something. And Nick, so you've never done this drive? I've never done a cross country drive. I don't really have an embassies. So you don't really have it. Once I was cruising through Galveston and I saw a Lambo try. Cruising through Galveston. Pretty sure it was a Lambo. I was pretty sure. Yeah. Okay. That's the all time greatest car YouTube video. Way better than any of mine. Nice. Okay, next question. And this is the great question that we've gotten this week. Hey, Doug and friends from this is Patrick O'Six. Again, you're the friends. Just a quick question. Hey, you guys ever heard of the Audi A1 Club Sport Quattro? Pull it up. Of course. This car, I don't want to talk about this car actually because I feel like I'm worried the values are going to go up and when it's finally legal. Yeah. They're so cool. I'm not going to be able to grab one. I'm telling you right now, there is no car that I want to import more than this car. Yeah, that is so cool. Nick, tell us your thoughts as an Audi man. I mean, what's not to like? It's such a good size. Tons of power. This, what this was was a little. So A1 was like a supermane, like the smallest touchback that they made. But while most of these were front wheel drive, tiny city cars to get people into the Audi brand early. This one they made for somebody's in a high performance version, the A1 Quattro, which had 260 horsepower in all wheel drive. In this car, it's incredible. And it's so cool. They had white wheels. It's funny, although if this were done aftermarket, you would just be like, it's the worst thing I've ever finished. Kind of looks like a Cima build just throwing that out there. Like those OZ wheels are rotiform wheels. That wing like, right. This is right. Give me an A1 and a couple cold ones. I can build you on the looks identical. They only made three or three. Yeah, but you can't put all the drive in it. That was a big thing. That probably has all this in stock, you know? So ship it out of Ohio. That's right. I think this is one of the, they didn't do a stick. But I think it was a dual clutch. And I think it is just one of the, I love cars this size. And I love like toss around cars like this. I'm not a front wheel drive guy. Not a lot of car people are. And so having an all wheel drive system in this car, it must be so. It would be. I want one so, so, so bad. Yeah, I support that. And if I had to kill Kenner to get one, I would, I wouldn't be that upset about it. Yeah, so I think about it. That's my thought on it. Now these cars were like 2011, so we're a long way away. Yeah. 10 years still. That could be you. That could be me. Skidding across the. But I did get one imported outie that was disappointing. Yeah, yeah, slightly too actually. That by the way, go back to the car. The R2 counts as well, doesn't it? That was the one I was talking about. What about the A2? Oh, yeah. You got two. I've only been disappointed by imported outies. The interior was so cool. Look at this. Nick, we could be sitting in this right now. Yeah. Again, Seema build or only Jason. Jason. Yeah, really? Especially with the speed hunters. And you know what? At every place, everywhere you took it, people would think Oh, yeah, for sure. Some dumb aftermarket belt. The only way, 33 of them for the whole world. And I think it is just one of the coolest cars in the planet. I really truly do. I agree with that. OK, next question from Tennessee Coolcat into our section. All right. Ken and questions from Tennessee Coolcat is no one going to talk about the hypocrisy of Ken and buying a tip. Everyone seems to be avoiding the conversation intentionally. Ken and what is your justification just like everyone else has for their own reason that they bought a tip. And by the way, there's nothing wrong with it. Well, you know, I've owned all manual cars except for my twin turbocharged V12 Mercedes. So, you know, you're right. You got me there. So your point is it's OK by a tip if you buy, if you get one that has a thousand pound feet of torque. Yeah. If you're getting a rentek to Nessel 65 or a Dodge 3500 power wagon, then you can buy a tip. Yes, I've always wanted a Nessel 65. And I felt for the longest time that one of its shortcomings was its transmission. I don't actually feel that way that much anymore about it. That car is so point and shoot and you kind of want to hold on the gears. The auto suits the nature of a lot of AMG cars. Absolutely. I've tried to make this point to some of us and he doesn't accept it. No, I mean, he seems to be more accepting of it now. But I think that yes, I always wanted that car and while it doesn't have a manual, I have to say I've really enjoyed. I enjoy it anyway. I do think that I agree that generally having you, I always want a manual. I'm since I likely have my M5 for a long time. I still get that, that joy. And I think that most fun cars should be manual, but nonetheless, you want to have it. You want the experience. Yeah, you know, justifications, you want the experience of this crazy car. A lot of people's justification is, man, get tired. No, actually, I don't mind. I don't mind having tip cars. I have a bunch. However, I want to point something out. You got half tips. You got all tips. You don't have a manual car all right now. It's got the fiat. It doesn't count. It doesn't. Not only is it broken, but he's desperately trying to get out of it. I, however, have a majority of manuals. Yes, I'm a 50-50 split at the moment. My next car will be a manual for sure. I'm four sevenths, which works out to 57% manuals. Nick, do you have any... Just edges me. Do you have anything to say about them? No, and the next few cars I'm in the market for are all automatics. Yeah, that's true. Next move, Johnny's getting older, is getting grayer. That B7 is getting further in his rearview mirror. Yeah, pretty soon it'll be like a B7 RS4, but I wish they had made an auto. That tip-tronic was just so satisfying to put it in a gear and then push over to the... It's hard to car-fax your old cars when you're driving a stack. You need the hand-free. Type in those long hair. You're not driving a stick. Exactly. I'm being productive. I'm doing deals at the stop-play. Big business. That's interesting. I... Yeah, you guys are now auto people. Yeah, I'll say that. The viewers are very astute on their deep-state conspiracy of bearing that news story. They didn't bear it all. But the truth is out, the shocking truth revealed. No, the car that was made only is an automatic. Everybody on this pile has always been like, oh, only manuals, only manuals. Then they all end up with automatics. Filippo, Mr. Only Manuals himself, has an automatic. He's got an automatic. I'm the only one for my fun cars who's never deviated. I've never had a fun car with only two pedals. Ever. Well, tireless. Time to man up and get a veer on. And guess what, Trens, that's going to have a tip. Next, Kenan question. This question is for Kenan, and this is a good one. And then we have a Nick question. Kenan. This one is for Kenan. Kenan, Kenan, Kenan, Kenan, we all know how much you love your M5, but is it your M5 that you love or is it the E39 M5 in general? If a lower mileage M5 in your dream spec with extensive service history became available, you sell the M5 you have now in order to get it. That's from OP Starfish. Really good question. I have run into this situation before, and honestly, it is my M5 that I love specifically. Wow. I didn't even love the E39 M5. Yeah. I do love the whole. It's because it's a rare shade of silver, silver, and another silver. Yes, that is true. But I think it has become, for a time, the answer that was yes, because I didn't want a silver one specifically. I didn't want no two. I didn't want the black interior. That's not what I wanted. I think it's exactly what I got. So for a while, the answer would have been yes. But as I've grown with this car, I don't see having a car. You wouldn't swap out. Let's say unless it gets totaled, I don't think I would. Let's say Sunburst Yellow becomes available. The famous... Dakar Yellow will say. Whatever it is. The famous yellow car comes available. I don't really want the banana. There are colors. What do you like? Interlagas. There's one... There are two that come to mind. There's one Estero Blue E39M5 in the United States. It's painted by BMW Individuals. So no three, it was in Georgia last. Member finding the M5 board looks as I'd be like. It looks... We'll have to post a text right. It looks so good. There is... And there's one that's in Eastern Europe. It's the only one that was made in Topaz Blue, which was my 525 color. And I loved that blue. It's a really nice blue. It's the blue Z8s. What's that? That blue. So if one of those came up, I think that would be... That would really push me. But only one of each. So they made more Estero ones, but usually they're UK cars in my hand drive. It's like my Suzuki Grey are as far. Like yes, that you're... We're keeping tabs on them, but they'll just never be enough. Your elephant actually is white, mine is, you know. Next question from Cool Man Food. This question about me, but two you guys. Dear Doug, you talk all about how exciting it is to have certain cars in your friend group. Like for example, an SLR. I'm curious. Was anyone in your friend group excited for the 993 Turbo? Where has it been ended up being a car just for you? No one cares about the 993 Turbo. In our friend group, in public, no one cares. I like the car. But our friend Sam was into it. Yeah. The parts of guys in our group, Addison and Sam, are... Nick, hey. Nick like actively does not like the car. He thinks it's a radically stupid money. No, I'm into it. I would never follow your footsteps here, but the same week I got it, he spent the same money for an SLR. And I got an old 911 Turbo where the... Precisely. Precisely. Where the fan belt sensor warning light is permanently on. Listen, the car, that car is a great example of a car that is only for the person sitting in the driver's seat. And I have a lot of cars that impress people when I drive them around, but that is absolutely not it. But I am impressed by driving it. And I think there's benefits to all of that. Your SLR people are like, whoa. Meanwhile, you get your focus and then you're like, whoa. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? For sure. Yeah, you're right. I see the focus STs out there. Uh huh. You're in. Well, I'm happy for you. Oh. And I do love the 993. I think it's one of the old time great 911s. I will say. My own generation. I think it's undesirable as the car has been among members of the public and our friend group, who barely even betted an eyelash on it when I pull up in it. We made it like a tradition that we all like show up when someone's car is getting delivered to see it. All of us would like take off a work and like go to the trailer and you know, check out the car. 993 Turbo came to be like, well, okay. So lunch. I will agree. The reason I'm happy about it is because it signifies you being back on cars openly. Right. I'm not saying these BSE cars that were like, you know, $6,000, what's the snail car, the S car go. The thing I was going to say though is quickly in my world, it has become a huge hit. And I haven't driven my other cars in a while. And she drives a good and I mean, good. Not the good touch recently. Not much. Not a portion. 4GT I am never using, which is so sad because I did take it out the other day and I love it so much. But. The 993 is, you know, practical because you can take your kids and that's a big part of it. Also, the holiday season is a time for practicality. I often morning errands. I had to go pick up ice the other day. 4GT has literally no star storage. That's true. Literally not. After we finish wrapping, I'm returning a toilet bowl cover to the UPS star right above. So I'm with you. You got to be ready. The P38 delivers. Okay. Next. I was going to lock the car, but the locks doesn't really work and you're like, yeah, it's a toilet, you know, the whole car. You need a new toilet seat cover. Good. He's got a toilet toilet. Ah, toilet squared. We're really excited to have Summit Racing as our sponsor for the podcast today. If you're not familiar, Summit Racing is one of the biggest names in automotive parts and accessories in the U.S. offering everything from crate engines to break kits, tools, and performance parts. 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I want to chime in and be like, you have no idea how close that dude is to personal debt crops. But unfortunately, I don't do that. I own all my cars. But I wish I could be irresponsible. In which case they said, would you have an F40? Yeah, I'd probably have an F50, honestly. What would you get? I mean, I would probably stretch back into that 100,000-ish, like, for me, probably a 575, there's only a thought I would stretch back into. It's just not the right time to spend 100 grand on a car again. Like I did with the truck. What about a 599? I was so funny you mentioned that. This past weekend, there was a manual swamped 599 at cars and coffee. That car gets more appealing by the day to me. Even over the 515, 575, that engine just hits you in the face. It does. Which actually is one of the reasons why the manual, the drawback of a manual at that car is it's so fast that if you're doing any sort of real speed driving, the manual's like too much almost. Oh, my. But you still want a manual one. You still, yeah, because most of the time you're not driving like that. Yeah. 599 and then doing the stick conversion. And if I were brave, like Nick, because you know, you look at a 599, it's 10 grand. You look at 599. So 10 grand. So, yeah, 599 is probably, I think it's a good point. That's probably the one. That's probably the one for me. What about you? I feel like I'm inching dangerously close to what he's describing in the first place. Every YouTube video I produce probably nets me a massive four-figure loss in terms of all the maintenance I did to make like $30 an ad cents back. So I'm kind of what you're describing. Right. If I were willing to get more leveraged, I would have a second fun car. And I really, you and I agree on this so much. But an X-Day 220 or an S7, something punishingly expensive to own that you will literally never see again. It'll be the only one that you see driving anywhere you go. Something like that that's just beyond ridiculous. X-Day 220 would be so cool. I also either one. So I would be a little bit more practical, Diablo 6-O. Yeah. But Diablo, our friend is proving is a very difficult car to own, but I won't want one so badly. Yeah, I mean too. That would be cool. I would have a lot of stuff. Yeah. Because I could leverage a lot and really go crazy. I would definitely get an F40 F50. The problem is you've discovered is once you get past like 10 cars, it becomes a burden instead of... That's one of the reasons I'd go after like the craziest of crazy stuff. I would have a lot of crazy stuff, but it'd be about probably about the same number of cars. Yeah. And my financial situation would be sketchy as some of the people who are out there today, possibly watching and thinking, am I talking about... Is he talking about me? Yeah. Yeah. And by the way, not Hoovy. Compared to some of these guys that we've now heard some stories about. Yeah. Hoovy is Dave Ramsey. You can see how it happened. So because you normalize it very quickly. Yeah. It's just like a... You're thinking only about monthly expenses. Can I cover this? Can I cover the payment this month? If I make it as much an ad sense, I can do that. And you're not thinking about any sort of long-term saving or how you can continue to exist or whatever. And so your only thought is, can I cover that payment this month? If I make this video, I can. Okay. Well, then I get another one or do even more crazy videos. And the next thing you know, you're earning 150 grand a month, but your spend is 146 grand a month. Yeah. Yeah. And you've convinced everyone, I think, convinces themselves they're Mr. Beast. They're not spending recklessly. They're reinvesting into the business, you know? But like it's not. No. No. No. Different. From kinetic SF, this is on the topic of what we just discussed. Doug, when are you going to stop kidding yourself and give into the siren's long of the 550 or 575? Given your comment in the video about being a daily option like your 4GT, it seems like you do a straight equal dollar swap for a manual 550 or 575 or an auto and save money. So swapping the 4GT into one of those. There is literally nothing in the world that would convince me to swap my 4GT into 550 or 575. There is literally nothing on this planet. No possible thing that could do that. Yeah. Anyway, next question. Because the Ferrari is just more fragile. The Ford is a very simple car realistically. It's very easy to take care of parts or inexpensive that not one of those things can be said about. The 575 is dailyable from the perspective that it is relatively comfortable and relatively soft and relatively not noticeable and quite practical, more so than the 4GT. The thing the 4GT has over those cars is that it is durable. And the 550 and 575, they are not durable, they are not reliable, they are expensive when they break. They are relatively reliable for Ferrari's. If you are going to daily one, these cars, some of them have real miles on them. They are totally great, but they are not like the 4GT. And more importantly, at the end of the day, the 4GT just drives way better, like not even close. Like simply drives much better, like an order of magnitude. It's a different, yeah, it's a different category of cars. Different category, different ten years. I think that's really the big factor, but there is nothing that would convince me to do. I still think about getting a Ferrari. Kenan is constantly getting on me about how I don't have a Ferrari. It's got a stick swap suit for America. You have one Ferrari and one BMW. It's silly. I got all these cars in my garage and I got two porches now, which is honestly embarrassing. And I don't have a Ferrari. What is going on? Well, it makes sense. You use Case 4, it is difficult. Why don't you convince me to get a Ferrari? I'll work on it. I'm trying to get you to get a BMW first. We're working our way there. How about you, Brody? I'm 340 EVO. Yeah, so. Dude, when we do that, I will be able to race anybody in a Ford Fusion Titanium. I don't think that's true. No, I think they could take Gapia. I think they take you to Gapia. Yeah, by now though, they're all probably a little down on power. Yeah, you might have a shot. That's a good point. Maybe. That's a good point. Plus, when do you find one? This isn't here on Ohio, am I right? Yeah. More Sandesky. Okay, next question. We have a few more. We got a few more questions here. Dude, you don't seem to care about showworthy low mileage cars. You like cars that are for driving. But do door dings and rock chips bother yours? That part of what makes a car in your view. And then he says, do you pay to fix door dings and rock chips in your cars? I had never had ever. Not once. Remember I sold those cars in the site with the broken windshields and everybody was so mad at me. Yeah. People are like, how can you do this? Yeah, it's a little bit. You can just replace it. You can see it right there. Big crack. No, I don't fix any of that stuff. Little different opinions on this side of the table. Kenan, Nick, do you want to give your. Yes, I'm very careful about where I parked my car. So it's rare that it gets adorning. But it like, periodically it has to go in for a dinner removal and a PDR. It's not a big deal. Stone chips I'm actually less precious about. I've been waiting for one to hit my windshield for years. I'm so eager to replace that windshield and it just never happens. Why? It's got lots of little chips in it but nothing big enough to like, like, just, like, I know if I replace it, it's going to doubt me the day I take a lot of the plastic. Yeah, I replace it. I hate to hate the way a PPL looks and it scratches every time you use the one. I will say one of the reasons I don't care about this. I got PPL. So my big four, four of my big five, the 993, the 4GT, the CrewGT, they are all PPL fully. The Kuntosh isn't but the paint's trash. And I keep, and I keep running it into stuff. So really, it's not a problem. And so it's not as big of an issue to me because when you have the whole car PPL, including the windshield, you don't have to necessarily be quite as careful, especially about paint factory. The PDR doesn't bother me at all. I mean, yeah, you can just get that done. It's true. Yeah. For me, it's like, I don't know. To do great PPL work versus painting costs the same. If you realistically look in, I've got to, and it's like, and PPL is not all that's cracked up to be. It's like, there's a level of care required for it if you're me. You want it to be perfect. It's like, it was done. More difficult than I had realized. Never in my life have done anything. Yeah, I'm aware. But, but yeah, I don't know. It's just not for you. What about you? You bothered by rock chips. Somewhere in between the two of you, they bother me, but I live with them. I drive the cars. They all have imperfections. You find out about them. SharePoint, PDR and PPL plus an occasional race spray. I'm buying news cars. So, I think it's, if you buy something new and you want to preserve it, that's why the SLR bother music was 4,000 some miles. I had to PPL because it just was too nice. And I knew I would screw something. And so he ended up PPL for PPL, and random panels. He did like, couple of fronts, one of the sides. Well, I told Kevin to do the front clip and he's like, oh, while we're in there, we should do this part. We should do that part. We didn't really do the calculus that he basically said, let's do everything but like a door. But, uh, rock chips don't, no, listen, we're not, we can't all be Kennen. We wish we could. God. I, yeah, well, yes. Okay. Next question from Kiro Max 9192. Kiro Max 9192. Is there a cutting room floor of not safe for work? Nick footage that we're all missing out on. I swear a few weeks ago you and costume Kennen were laughing way too hard at an innocuous Nick joke. And it couldn't have just been the one that was said. Yep. I bet it wasn't. Yep. Producer made the decision to cut that. It is really fun. Every time Nick's on the show, Nick, Nick starts a show with this, with this man of the people. I don't support Bezos. I love the workers rant. You should see what he says when the cameras are off. Nick is one of the most entertaining people I know and there are things that we can for his safety. We can't fall out. But I like to think I have no filter. The realities I just don't think before a talk. Similar though. I mean, that's the same thing. There have been a number of clips circulated through the friend group of things I said that did not make the podcast. So yeah, it occasionally happens. I also think it's a good way to start the podcast if I make you laugh really hard and then throw you off your balance a little bit. So sometimes I strategically plant something in there just to mess with your head. And other times it's just how it comes out. Yeah. So Nick says a lot of stuff that is totally insane. We call him crazy Nick. And I think that his full crazy isn't able to really shine through because some of the stuff just simply can't be put in front of hundreds of thousands of people. But you know what's funny is the haters on the YouTube comment against me say that I don't take enough, like my opinions are very predictable and normal and that I need to like take a more controversial opinion. I'm like, those just get caught. His opinions that's insane that he says that because he bought an SLR. The whole thing was that he's he got rid of his mercy, which everybody loves. And then the S and got an SLR. That's the least predictable opinion. A person could you know who else got an SLR? Man, I got another one. No, he did not. He bought the one I bring using an alias. You're going to do another HDK full MSL recon commission kind of thing. But yeah, I think it's his tenth. You're kidding. People say I have a problem. When he bought it, he then screenshot it and then he goes, wow, someone got an insane deal. He later revealed that. That's all he was in on the joke. But like, I love that he's, yeah, I love that he's indescribably much. You know what you want to do is you want to burn down Mani's car warehouse because that would have a significant impact on the number of SLRs around. Don't give him an idea. Like 10 fewer cars. Maybe the rare shades festival needs to be hosted at the Coshbin Company headquarters. Dude, I got a Mani story for you that I've never told in this podcast. All right. I went up to film something with him. I used to film with him. He doesn't really use his, like he doesn't drive his cars. So I can't really film with him because I like to do a drive. Which is a shame because I legitimately liked Mani. Yeah. I've met some people doing this who. And then I love met some people who I like. And Mani is one of the ones I truly liked. And he told me, because Mani had a yellow curgey tea. And he told me right before they were starting to take off, as they were starting to take off, that he had sold it for like 650. And he said it needed like 85 in service. It needed the, at curgey teas after like 15 years, need the engine out. And it needed like, you know, the cams were pity. I mean, it needed real service. And the market hadn't quite taken off yet. And I at that point was like, could have stretched in maybe. And Shane got away. Yeah. That's a two million car now. Yeah. And I have stuck with silver. Good. Meanwhile, Mani's stuck pilot SLR. It shouldn't have stuck piloted curgey teas. He messed up. I mean, he was like Michael Berry in the big short. He's not wrong. He's just early. He's early. And it's all going to work out for him eventually. Nice. Great. Here's a question for you guys on the subject of craziness. ME020424 writes, you said that in the past craziness is only at a seven out of 10 for his YouTube videos, which is true, by the way, he's crazy. You're on the pod. I think that he is in his own videos. He almost needs people to like play off. Go to my. Yeah. Like you, when we do, we did this thing with the H2 on the desert. I, we got to edit some of it because it's not appropriate. Look what? The car maintenance habits of people in parts of this middle of the country. We can't cover some of that. But anyway, I don't recall that. I'll remind you off podcast. But anyway, on the same scale, the question asks, how much crazier is Doug in real life compared to the podcast? You are pretty crazy. And we do give him a lot of stick, but you have a, it's fun setting you off. Like when you do, he says something, you go, it's like, it's Doug is crazy in some other way. It's like, I don't think people realize how deep your tennis addiction really runs. Yeah, I only like to talk about cars. I don't really get into some of the non-car stuff. Well, they have some real passions and interests that have nothing to do with cars that we never come. And they run deep. All of a sudden, he'll mention something. It's like, what long form did he read today where he got into that? So there's some, yeah, Doug is a very crazy person as well. We're all pretty nuts in different ways. I always describe you as you're exactly in your videos, how you are in real life. You think so? I see zero difference. You are incredibly energetic and loud and fun, but like over the top at all times on our off camera. I would argue though, in the main, the regular videos, not as much like that as I am in the pod where I think my real, it's like how we all thought Jerry Seinfeld was like a warm teddy bear nice guy until we started watching comedians and cars getting coffee and we realized he hates everyone. I don't hate everyone to be clear. But I think there's like a personality shift that was realized when I got in the pod. I feel like when you're on the pod, you're not like really, you're maybe turning up the energy a little bit, but you're very high energy. Like this is largely a representative sample as it is of you. Yeah. This is real Nick. You come over, you compliment my home decor in the same calm manner that you speak here. It's very consistent. This is great stuff. You love my nautical theme. This is great. I love that you've hung this generic picture of a boat from home goods a little bit off center on this wall that's 10 times larger than the painting. This is great. That's what I say. I have heard him say stuff like that before. Gosh, we did a walking tour of my neighborhood once and all. Yeah, that was it. I couldn't look at any of my neighbors in the eye for a while. That was a tough situation for everybody. I somewhat regret that, but also I couldn't stop it. This question from Benny T. Mostly for Doug, you have a short list of cars left after having so many, you have a short list of cars left after having so many. What else is on it? You know, it's an interesting point. I've started to realize that I don't have that many more cars left that I actually want, which is a scary thought. I had made a list like 10 years ago of cars I want. And on that list, and I've kept it as an Apple note on my phone for 10 years. And on that list, I have either crossed off or no longer desired almost every car. And I'm not adding to it. I'm not sitting here like, this came out. I really want that. It's getting slim, which is one of the reasons I haven't sold any of my special cars. I don't find replacements that I'm like really particularly interested in. When I look at my list of cars that I want, this famous list that I have that I can be keeping for so long, the only things that I see that I really, really still want. Some sort of Euro-only Mercedes AMG wagon, either a C55 from 2005 or a C43 from late 90s or an E55 from a 1. An EVO 6 left-hand drive in blue, they don't exist basically. 996 GT2, 911. Mark IV Super Turbo for sure. Mega, cruiser, R34 GTR. That's kind of it. That's like six cars, right? And that's my whole life left to live. How am I going to do an F40? I mean, I got an F40. I've got some expensive stuff on this list that would be amazing, but I couldn't afford it then, can't afford it now. Probably never will. And I'm kind of okay with that. There's just not all that much stuff that I'm particularly interested anymore. And that scares me. That literally scares me as well. I'm not exaggerating. Like, when I think about it, like, nothing, and not cars aren't being built that I sit here thinking that's going to go on my list. Yeah, my list is not long either, as I look at it. What do you have on? You got a list? I made this probably also about six, seven years ago. Six, seven. Actually, not many, only one. Only two. Why? Why do you like the guy? I don't know. You are a literal child. So, yes, so for me, the only BMW Z4M Roadster and Z8, they're only two there on there. Not M-Coup, Z4M-Coup? Nope. Roadster. They live in Southern California. The coupe is cool. The first gen V12 vanquishes, CT5V Blackwing, Dodge Viper, RT10 or SRT10, 575, 612, 599, Garter, Superlisher, first gen, LC500, 996 Turbo, 997.1 GT3, 981 Boxer Spider. But those cars will last you a while. You know what, every two years, you're good to your 60. There you go. I mean, yeah. Screwed. Yeah, well, yes. We're different seasons of our lives. I'm out. Yeah. This is it. I don't know what to do. We're not that different in age. I'm only seven years old than you are. That's a pretty significant difference. I want a list like that. Well, I'll call a send it to you. I'll take it to you. I think you're most incredibly long. It's a big. It's very long, although I realize part of the reason it's so long is I have the black wood in there twice. He wants it so much. However, I think the problem we were discussing off-pot is, as you ascend the ranks of automotive vehicles, it's hard to take back steps, right? The, the, oh, the termicobra for instance, like, yeah, we wanted that forever. But if you've had a Ford GT, it's a huge step backwards and you're never going to drive it. Yeah. Like, it's cool, but would I have an SLR and a P38 and all these amazing vehicles to choose from? It's hard to choose the multiple. So that out of the way, I agree. That's a point that is like real. I think about that a lot. Like there are cars on this list that I really idolized at one point. I look at it, now multiple was on my list, but I look at it now and I'm like, I know what that's going to be like and I'm just not going to. Been there done that. Been there done that kind of. Yeah, I think that's why all these brands are coming out that are like the SSE2ATARA and the Aspark Owl. For people who just, they got it all, what else is out there? Yeah, they need something more exotic and ridiculous. And so unless it has 2000 horsepower and a 13 speed manual transmission, they're not interesting. Yeah. I will say I'm surprised at your list, like a Chrysler, Amy for 12. I do think a lot of our list will be a change if our financial crisis is changed. Right. Yeah, 50 would be on the list. And so I mean, yeah, if I had a ton more money, there would be more cars, not as many as I wish, but like if you had, you'd have F40, you'd have a set of it. Powerbolls at a billion dollars. Yeah, if I won that, like it would be, yeah, I mean, absolutely. I'd chop in an F50 next week. You know, it would almost be sad that it would be speedboat season, you know? It would almost be sad though, because don't you think that we would eventually get to the same place with infinite money that we've gotten to without it, and it money? You know, I think sort of, but I need to have you beginning it. No, I think we're intellectual. I like to think we're intellectual enough. I think it would balloon like this and then we kind of pair down and you just end up with a 993 turbo. But that's kind of my point. Like in 10 years after you had infinite money, you'd sit there and be like, yeah, I have the extra cheater, you know what I never, and you know what? I didn't want any of those cars and there's still nothing that I want. And now I have infinite money and there's still nothing that I want. That'd be sad. I almost don't want infinite money for that reason. I always, I would be nice to have something to aspire to. I think I'll take the infinite money. That's pretty good. I think they're really interested in dollars, but yes, I have a suspicion that even with all the, and I've seen this with car collectors that I know who have crazy money, they get the F40, the F50, the Enzo, all the cars, and then eventually they're like, well, the Sultan of Runez, the best example, he got so bored, he just had, almost all the guys I know who are in that circumstance moved on to something like the salt, not paying the rolls, Royce to develop their own cars, but like one-offs or weird customs or whatever that like other guys couldn't, rich guys couldn't have. Right. You know what the Sultan Bernay was, Prince Jeffrey was doing this thing today. Do you think he'd be getting invites with CVK over Instagram? How sick would that be? Yes. Abs, so wouldn't it be like that would be something about the Sultan would be, I'd be like, it'd be like the UAE, honestly, be like the Middle East, like it'd be like rich people there. It'd be great. God, yeah. And it'd be hard to keep those cars off Insta. He wouldn't keep those cars off Insta. No, I think he would have like a one-off-b-one account. He would have done everything a bit too early. Nick, what's on your list? I mean, do you want the serious cars or the obtainable cars? Just hit me with 10 randoms. Let me have, you got it up. You got it up. Let me, let me, let me say it. Let me say it. Oh my God. Oh my God. Okay. C5 RS6, stick swap. CLS 55. What? What? That's a 63, which was more powerful in the same thing. I went the M13 tag. I'm more like, we, I, okay. Okay. Funkmaster Flex 4X edition. That'll be carbon immediately disappointed in me. That's a one-way. It was just an experience with different paint. It was a two. That's it though. That's it though. I'm not a FLOGO. Otherwise, it's like a 2012 4X edition. You may not appreciate the finer details of Funkmaster Flex, but some of us do. O2 to O6 Jaguar XKR. That's the bad, the previous body. I like the previous body, but O2 is a facelift and they took care of some issues. I actually really liked the 96.97s. ML 55 or 63 radically different cars. X5 4.8, but he doesn't want the 4.6. The better looking one. Oh well. Pajero EVO. Oh my. He wrote M-Coup and then he wrote S-52 or S-54. In other words, M-Coup. Yeah. He's got some check-dots. I wanted to remind myself not to be too snobbish that the 52 is probably fine. He has on here P38 check. Another P38 check. And he has hopefully one more P38. 430 Scoot conversion 575 conversion 599 conversion. Okay. R63. Any progress on the R63 front? No. There is literally one for sale and it's puter and I don't want puters. Yeah, you don't. I have. Been there, done that. Yeah. Yeah. You didn't, you didn't never see my puter station wagon. You should have. Would have turned you off puter even more. Yeah. I don't want to get the ranger splash flair side. Go to the site. Ideally, but the red look pretty good. Typing ranger splash. This is another one of those nostalgic. Here. That's it. Yeah, the white one's pretty good. Although again, yellow or red. Ideally. Well, that was in the Hoya. Yeah. Oh, yeah. This is a two-wheel drive. You could have been there. I know. This is a terrible driving experience. I'm sure. I mean, go to the interior. You remember this interior? Yeah. It was a Ford Explorer 91 and 94. Yep. Yeah. It's funny because so many cars the outside. You look OK. And then you look at the interior and it's like, I know what that feels like. I know what that. I know what that smell like. I don't want anything to do with that car. I would love to get one. It doesn't have to be a flair side or a splash because I don't want to ruin an important car. But I would like to get a pickup one day that's body dropped and can lay for it. Shave door handles. Just go full blown, like mini truck nationals circa 2004. God. All right. Folks, this being the Christmas episode, I want to stop a little early today because we received some gifts, some holiday gifts from some viewers. Yes, we did. We do like to show us what people have sent us. And by the way, if you're at home and you're thinking you want to send us something, don't. Instead, send us an email to Sean at carsandbids.com. That's S-E-A-N Sean at carsandbids.com. All right. We have several gifts. So one of them is a Nissan Armada Cologne. You're kidding. Now, I'm guessing that that smells like Uber. Like someone trying to cover up mental smells. I was going to say you've got, you've got supposed to be financial decisions and going way too fast on the highway. But yeah, fascinating. How greenlit the Sydney's on there, that desperate to. This must have been this newer old. Hard to tell. It's still shrink wrap. All right, Nick. Huh? No, we're not doing it. I'm not taking out a box, you kid. This is high quality. This is high quality stuff. I'll try it if it's that light free. Nick, given that this is the Nissan Armada, what are the three languages on the bottom that it's been, that the warning has been translated into? All Eastern European. Beyond that, I don't know. Polish. No, come on, check. Where is the Armada the most popular? Well, I assume Japan, because it's a Japanese vehicle. The first language on here, it texts Arabic. Arabic? OK. Oh, yeah, Sandun. And then it's French English. This is the greatest gift we've ever been given. Nissan Armada, this is the kind of thing they give you at press launches. Folks, I don't go to automotive press launches anymore, but my biggest regret not going to the press launches is that I don't get gifts anymore. They used to give me the worst gifts you could imagine. And I've saved them all. And I have some wild gifts. Like my Nissan Z sushi knife. Remember that? Oh, that's a good one. That's a really good one. But although you don't get those gifts anymore, we do have more gifts that people have sent us. What's this one? This one, I don't know. Maybe these are spiders. I have no idea what these are, but they sent us a little card as well. In a baggie? I will let you read it. This is good. It's like anthrax. Anthrax in here. Dear Doug, Kenan and Filippo and Crazy Nick. I hope you enjoy opening the finest collection of 20-year-old authentic imported cars direct from Albania. Oh, my god. Oh, my god. Not anthrax. Come on, it's with the sport. Oh, it comes with the cosplay. No way. Oh, this one has Italian plates on it. That one, those are like plates for it. And then here's a non-crossed bed. You're kidding. Some got, okay, wait, this came from Jason in Albania and they're cars in eggs and they're, this one is fake. This is something. Oh, my god, that one's broken apart. This is the greatest gift I've ever seen. The crossplate is the coolest. Jason is actually a doctor in Farmington, Utah. Oh, this is a smart 4.4. God, this is the best guy to go nuts. That weird, Carchon wants. The Renault Sparta spider. Let me see. Is that a sports bike? That's a smart one. That's a road-mired road steering. Okay. Close enough. They're easily available, too. This is amazing. This is the greatest gift that anyone's ever given me, even better than the Cologne. Next, see in this. You see, you don't get press launches, but you're not getting this stuff in press launches. This is one of those, what was this thing called? It kind of nice stick with YouTube for another 10, 12 years. We might be getting stuff like that. They're sending this to all of us. He says, dear Doug, Ken and Felipe and Crazy Nick, and he spelled all of our names right. I put it no one has ever done that. Thank you very much. That's very kind of you. That's a detail it's often missed. This is, I know, Felipe's name has never been called. Oh, I've seen this. Yeah, I mean. Don't open my god. Nick, this was going to go in my press launch collection. Can we just show how, like, this is pretty nice. All right, Nick. All right, you've since you've opened it. Let's spray a little bit. Don't not on me. On your wrist, on your wrist. On your wrist. What are you doing? Oh, he's just embracing it. Let's tell you they're supposed to do it. Well, if you like how it smells, if you like it smells, I mean, if you like, it's like in our motto. These are the greatest things I've ever been given. Dude, I'm taking this smart cross blade home. This is so cool. That's what you can't smell. I can't smell yet. I forgot. Do you see the smart cross blade human people? No. It's too small. And you know what? That's what makes it so great. You agree these are the greatest gifts you've ever been given. Well, I don't know. It doesn't end there. Wait, hang on, hang on. There's an explanation for these gifts. Also, I gave you a part of a whistle and diesel G-wagon. Magic, Kinder, they're Kinder eggs with smart cars in them. Let's pick it. This one is for you specifically. Oh, what? This is a bath mat. A bath mat. It's shaped like what appears to be a low body kuntosh. It's my kuntosh. You've seen it? It looks low body to me. No, no, take, pick it up. It's mine. Pick it up on that side. This would be good when you get out of your car wearing only socks. This is a five liter. That's so true. Put it out and then you can clean your socks off before we enter it. Such a great point. This is really good. Show them. That is legit. This is not a low body. This is a little bit. This is exactly my car. It looks a little light black white wheels. It's very cool. Very soft, too. Very fluffy. Yeah. We've got to use it on our bath mat bathroom here in the office. You know what? We might actually. But there's one more. And this one is probably the most impressive. This is the most impressive. I have to be very careful. I want to cross-blade again. I'm putting it back on the list. Yeah. This is an F40 LM. This is an F40 LM. This is made by a viewer in New York. And he put this. He got it completely out of cardboard. And he did it completely himself. There's nothing like that was botan put on here. He made everything himself from like the calipers, the wheels, the engine compartment. Because we cannot have an F40, we have this instead. We have this F40 LM, which is so cool. I have a very specific honorary place. I'd like to put it in our office. But this is really. It's right. Can I go behind the pod studio? Well, it's rooms getting tight back there. I might be able to see. We have some of the most bizarre and interesting car stuff that has ever existed. Where did we get that piston? That was from... Hold on, this one. This one. This one is from... The car, if it's very difficult. This is from one of our employees named Colton. It's from an engine that he blew up. And so that is a twisted connecting rod. That's a lot of force. That is a lot of force. I mean, and those were the valve met the piston. I mean, that's a tough loss. But even when you money shifted, you didn't do this. Nope. I think it did. I think it's some piston rings. Not this bad, like this is. Because I didn't money shift. It was some detonating due to a faulty tin. Had I money shifted, it would have been a lot harder to re-belt. These are all great gifts. We love all the weird car stuff we have here. Obviously, the greatest gift we've ever been given is each other on this holiday season. And also this cross-play. Now, this F40 is very cool. You have a place for it. It will live in our office for it. It will live in our office with tremendous honor. It is really cool. Again, if you want to send us gifts, the address to send them is Sean at carsandbids.com. S-E-A-N at carsandbids.com. That's where you send them to. This was our podcast with questions. Nick, do you have any parting thoughts? No, I was just wondering what automotive gifts have given or received that were good. It's very hard to buy and gift for carpenters. You gave us my very favorite gift on this podcast. Do you remember what it was? The Jibagan. Whistlin Diesel. Yep. Whistlin Diesel, known taxi Vader, just kidding. Free Whistlin. There it is. He destroyed a Jibagan, which I'm sure was titled in Montana. And we have a portion of it right here. And it's obviously, I'm a huge Whistlin fan, as I've mentioned many times in the pod, which by the way, when I've ever I say it, the amount of people in the comments were like, I lost all respect for Daga. Yeah, yikes. Anyway, this was a gift that you gave us, and it's amazing. We've kind of had a little bit of a truce inside of the group on giving each other gifts, because everyone one and buys everything they want. But two, I think, just a very difficult crowd. The gift card we got for you the one year, so that you could get around your budget cap on maintenance was a good one. This year it works. Yeah. You know how we all see got a red bag? He got a second card. It's just better touch the money on that instead. Maybe he's like, pad the invoice on this one by a grand. And then you can put it in my other one. I have done a great job sticking to it. Just write a line, men, don't write which cards will review in the new year, whether I crossed the line or not. I think, I think was it you that got Sam? It was like a cameo of like Parker Neurion's team. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Is birthday, do you remember this? Oh, yeah, I got Parker. But then I was worried Parker wouldn't get back. So I also got a second cab away from him. I told you that's right. Yeah. Does that still a thing? No, it's still around. But I think it's not like it was doing COVID. Yeah, it was great. That was a great gift by Mary Christmas. Happy holidays. Happy Hanukkah. Happy New Year's. You know, the Mary Christmas happy holidays thing I never got because there are two holidays. It's even the people who are all Christmassy. It's Christmas and New Year's. That's the whole. No, in Hanukkah. Well, no, I know, but people are like, I'm not going to say anything other than Mary Christmas. In Festivist. But, but even the Mary Christmas people New Year's is a holiday that is also a day off at this time. I've never understood that. So you're happy holidays. Happy holidays. Nothing for them. And that includes Mary Christmas. You know what I'm saying? It's just a Larry Day for the level of speciality. But you get my point. You get my point. So it's like, I'm not going to say anything with Mary Christmas. Well, you're not wishing me a happy New Year. You're sitting here, you're not wishing me a happy New Year. You're being a bad New Year. That is some bad. I'm offended. I'm offended. Goodbye, everyone. Goodbye.