Kash Patel Celebrates The US Men’s Hockey Gold Medal | Feb 24, 2026
106 min
•Feb 24, 2026about 2 months agoSummary
Arian Foster and PFT Commenter celebrate the US Men's Hockey team's gold medal victory over Canada, discuss the patriotic appeal of underdog sports, debate quarterback vs. receiver credit for passing yards, and explore various internet culture phenomena including the Alyssa Liu discourse and conspiracy theories about murdered scientists.
Insights
- Men's hockey is uniquely positioned as America's patriotic sport because the US is competitive enough to win but not expected to, creating authentic underdog appeal unlike basketball dominance or soccer irrelevance
- Rule changes in professional sports (NBA carrying, hockey fighting restrictions) fundamentally alter how we evaluate historical player greatness and create unfair comparisons across eras
- Internet culture has created new pathologies (gooning, goon-baiting) that reduce female athletes to sexual objects despite their elite accomplishments, representing a deeper dehumanization problem
- Pre-internet era athletes benefit from mystique and selective viewing that modern athletes cannot replicate, making direct historical comparisons of greatness inherently flawed
- Conspiracy theories about murdered scientists reveal how internet communities connect unrelated events to create narratives that feel meaningful but lack logical foundation
Trends
Athlete personal branding and lifestyle choices (hair, piercings, fashion) becoming targets for sexualization and criticism onlineIncreased scrutiny of youth sports systems (gymnastics, figure skating, ice skating) for psychological and physical harm from early specializationInternet subcultures developing specialized terminology (gooning, goon-baiting) that spreads rapidly but remains incomprehensible to mainstream audiencesConspiracy theory communities connecting unrelated tragic events (scientist deaths) to create grand narratives about suppressed discoveriesSports rule evolution creating generational debates about player greatness and fairness of statistical comparisonsCartel violence in tourist destinations (Mexico) becoming normalized with business-as-usual responses from hospitality industryPolitical figures (Kash Patel) using sports events for casual brand building and media presence alongside official duties
Topics
US Men's Hockey Gold Medal VictoryQuarterback vs. Receiver Credit in Football StatisticsPre-Internet Era Athlete Mystique vs. Modern AccessibilityNBA Rule Changes and Player Comparisons (Carrying, Traveling)Figure Skating and Youth Sports Specialization ConcernsOnline Sexualization of Female AthletesGooning and Internet Subculture PathologiesConspiracy Theories About Murdered ScientistsCartel Violence in Puerto VallartaHotel Checkout Procedures and Customer ServiceAlyssa Liu Olympic DiscourseMichael Jordan vs. LeBron James DebateConor McDavid and Hockey ExcellenceKash Patel FBI Director Public AppearancesMexico-US Border and Tariff Negotiations
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People
Kash Patel
FBI Director who attended US Men's Hockey gold medal game in Milan and celebrated with team in locker room
Jack Hughes
US Men's Hockey player who scored gold medal-winning goal against Canada in overtime
Nathan McKinnon
Canadian hockey player who had multiple scoring chances but couldn't convert in gold medal loss
Conor McDavid
Canadian hockey player described as best player in world, won tournament MVP but lost gold medal and Stanley Cups
Alyssa Liu
20-year-old US figure skater who won Olympic gold after comeback, faced online sexualization discourse
Michael Jordan
Discussed as historically greatest basketball player with pre-internet mystique affecting legacy perception
LeBron James
Compared to Michael Jordan as potentially better modern basketball player but lacking historical mystique
Steph Curry
Golden State Warriors player discussed regarding US Men's Basketball Olympic performance
Nikola Jokic
Denver Nuggets center discussed as world-class talent who would have played for Yugoslavia if it existed
Luka Doncic
Dallas Mavericks player discussed as world-class talent who would have played for Yugoslavia if it existed
Wayne Gretzky
Hockey legend discussed as greatest player ever with pre-internet mystique and outrageous statistics
Allen Iverson
NBA player discussed regarding crossover dribbling and rule changes that enabled modern ball-handling
Kyrie Irving
NBA player discussed as potentially greatest ball-handler of all time despite rule change advantages
Clyde Drexler
Former NBA player who discussed historical ball-handling and carrying rule enforcement with hosts
John Thompson
Georgetown basketball coach who coached Allen Iverson during college career
James Comey
Former FBI Director compared to Kash Patel as overly serious, now pursues poetry and watercolor painting
Donald Trump
US President who called US hockey team after gold medal victory and appeared on Josh Pate's show
Josh Pate
College football media personality who interviewed President Trump in Georgia
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Herschel Walker
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Quotes
"The United States is the best country in the world at every sport. USA."
Arian Foster•Early in episode
"We are good enough to win but we haven't won in a long time, whereas soccer men's soccer we're not good enough to win, women's soccer we win every time, men's basketball if we don't win it's a disaster. This is the only sport we really have where we can win but we're not expected to win."
PFT Commenter•Mid-episode discussion
"I would argue that the rules have been changed to acquiesce to international players. That's what I would argue."
PFT Commenter•Basketball rules discussion
"The quarterback has nothing to do with when the receiver catches the ball. His presence is no longer needed in the stat sheet. It's done. Good throw, you executed your job."
Arian Foster•Passing yards debate
"I think there's just an aura around guys from before the internet existed to where there was word of mouth. You have to watch Michael Jordan."
PFT Commenter•Historical athlete discussion
Full Transcript
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You got the pepperoni chopped in there on Penn Station with Mega Cheese Steak. Check it out. Go to PardonMyCheesesteak.com. Use promo code AWL. You get free delivery. All right. We are back. It is February 24th. It is macro dosing, and the United States is the best country in the world at every sport. USA. What do you think, Aaron? I know you're a patriotic sports fan you know how you do did you watch any of the hockey I did not watch any hockey but I heard that the USA won yeah is that not like a were we ever competitive or no no we won in 1980 that was the last gold medal that we had we're always competitive but haven't won gold medal since then I don't know if I'd call that competitive of L's since the 80s well we lost the gold medal game to Canada in 10 in 14 we lost to them in the semifinals and then the last two they haven't had NHL players I don't even remember what we did yeah so we have been competitive just not like championship level I guess if you were if you were to assign an NFL team to United States hockey what would be the best comparison for that would The Bills. No, but the Bills, they haven't won. Like, we have won. So we won a long time ago. A long time ago. Have remained competitive. The Cowboys? But they've – no, they haven't made an NFC. Are they the last NFC team that hasn't made a championship game? Yeah. Like, every other team has made it since then? Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I think it would have to be, like, the Cowboys, the Dolphins. But, again, they stink all the time. They do stink. the 49ers 49ers might be hockey yeah yeah the 49ers because when's the last time the 49ers won a super bowl though it was probably 90s wasn't it yeah 98 98 98 90 90 it was mid 90s it gets the chargers yeah yeah dion was there right yeah but even still that feels like that's it's way more there's really no nfl comparison to it but that they've been to a lot of super bowls and nfc championship games since then they have and haven't won it yeah titus i think made a really good point this morning which was that the u.s hockey team is our most patriotic sport we have because we are good enough to win but we haven't won in a long time yeah whereas soccer men's soccer we're not good enough to win women's soccer we win every time men's basketball we if we don't win it's a disaster kind of like canada it's hockey yeah so we don't this is the only sport we really have where we can win but we're not expected to win right yeah it's a good sweet spot to be in because it really lets it really lets the patriotism flow yeah unchecked it's a good excuse for us to just let it fly no regrets full throttle fuck the world we're united states bitch like if we did that for basketball kind of a kind of weird move right although i mean suck my dick we got steph curry like like yeah we know you have steph curry and i was thinking yesterday and i i really like the way titus put it because i was thinking like the steph curry shot against france was incredible that was awesome but it didn't feel nearly the same no as jack hughes scoring no it didn't and that that was great for a different reason i love watching the u.s men's basketball team because i get to root for all these guys that I usually either have fatigue from winning so much. I'm like, these guys just bounce around. I get to actually like, I'm a Steph Curry fan. Steph Curry represents me. I see myself in Steph Curry out of the court, which is an amazing experience. Like shout out to Golden State Warriors fans. That must have been awesome for the last like 10 years to be like, yeah, Steph Curry's my favorite athlete and he plays for my team. That's a great thing that you get to experience. Getting to tap in on that in the Olympics is a treat. Though the rest of the world is catching up in basketball to the point that it could become like this. Yeah, it does. I would argue that they are not. I would argue that they are not. I would argue that the rules have been changed to acquiesce to international players. That's what I would argue. I would disagree with that, but let's embrace debate. I don't think that's untrue. So I think what separated the EuroLeague from the NBA was hand checking, stuff like that, playing tough uh tough defense hard defense shit like that i think to appeal to international the international game i think i think it was david stern at the time he started doing international outreach so back then like what were the the international players were like tony kukoc stuff like that perimeter players very finesse right uh we have made the rules in the nba such to acquiesce to that style of play so that that super traveling shit that they're doing now that everybody says the gathers to all that kind of shit that's what euro players have been used to the entirety over there lately the nba has now adopted those rules so i think you're seeing more euro players uh excel i think that is true but there's also just hasn't been the level of talent that there is now i mean there was never yokich wimben yama sga all those guys at once now granted all those guys are from different countries so like america versus the world right now would be a the world would probably win. I think the world would fuck around. Likely win. But you need one country that has all those guys. France has been close. I'll tell you what. We've talked about it before, but if Yugoslavia didn't break up at the end of the Cold War, Yugoslavia might be the best basketball country in the world. So would they have Jokic and Luka right now? Yeah, yeah. They would have Jokic. They would have Luka. They would have Bogdanovich. both Bogdanovich's. Both? Would they have Shingun? No, Shingun is Turkey, right? I'm not sure. I think he's, I think, for all the Shinguners out there, I believe he's Turkish. Yeah, you'd have Jokic, you'd have Luka, Jovic, Topic, Vucevic, Nurkic, Luka Garza, if you're into that sort of thing. Bogdanovich, Zubat. Vucevic and Javante Green. That's a pretty good team. Pretty good team. But yeah, I mean, they've changed some of the rules. And I think you could say a similar thing about hockey. Like, international hockey is a little bit different from NHL hockey and how the ice is set up, what they allow, what they don't allow. I wish they allowed fighting. That's what was so cool about the Four Nations. Yeah. It was like, you could go out there and just beat another dude's face in and it'd be fine. Did I hear that you would get a game misconduct for fighting? Yeah. You get kicked out. And I think you'd have to miss the next game, too. That's insane. Yeah. Which is like you saw some French guy go after Tom Wilson in like the quarterfinals. And Tom Wilson just had to kind of sit there and take it. Because if I punch this guy, I'm in big trouble. They were hitting yesterday, too. They were. It was a lot of fun. And it was good to be able to just root on your country as somewhat of an underdog, which we were technically an underdog. It was not the miracle. It was not like it was a bunch of amateurs against pros. We had a very, very good team, but we were the underdogs going up against Canada. And Canada is very, very upset this morning. And it's like, what else do they have that we can take from them? This is why I want to continue to steal from Canada. This is why I've always yearned for a men's soccer team that is at this level. Like, we're never going to be the best in the world, but if we could win a couple knockout games in a World Cup, like just ruin it for these other countries. Because it's all they have. We have everything. Listen, I know there's a lot of people out there that are not super into soccer and don't really care about the World Cup. But it's going to be here in the United States. It's going to be in your face. You will, I think even casual sports fans, if you like sports, you will get into the World Cup. The excitement is that level that you'll find some stuff that you really enjoy about it. Now, if the United States, if somehow things break our way, I don't know if the governing body of soccer, FIFA, and the officials are open to any sort of bribery or rigging any of the games. I don't know if that would be up their alley. But let's just say, hypothetically, the United States wins so many games that we get to the semifinals or the finals in the World Cup. I know it's a long shot, very long shot. everyone in america is going to absolutely love it because we'll get to say fuck you to countries like brazil uh like england like germany countries that they dedicate their entire lives to soccer and it's literally the only sport like they play basketball a little now germany plays hockey a little bit but it's soccer is it and if you think the world doesn't hate us as ugly Americans already. Wait till we, if we get to a point where we're in the World Cup finals, it will be such a great moment for America to just be like, fuck you, double middle fingers to the world. Even if you're like, I don't care if you're the most liberal person out there. If the U.S. men's national team makes it to the World Cup finals, you will become, like you might as well, you'll be MAGA. You will probably have to be MAGA at that point. My goal for this World Cup is to win two knockout games So that gets us to the quarterfinals. And then come what may after that. But if we can win two knockout games, at least one of which against, like, a country that this will destroy them. Yeah. Who would be the best team to beat in the quarterfinals? I mean. Who does Messi play for? Argentina. We can't beat Argentina. We can. Like, I mean, the best team to beat would be. Didn't Saudi Arabia tie or beat Argentina? Yeah. I know it was in the group play last year. I mean, the obvious answer is England, but we've played them in the World Cup before. We've tied a couple times. Beating England would be pretty nice. Beating France would be incredible. We probably can't beat France. Spain. Spain probably can't beat them. Well, that's the thing. We can't beat any of these teams. Mexico. We'll probably just beat Mexico. Beating Mexico would be incredible. I don't know how that shakes out with the group stage and how you advance. Would you rather beat Mexico in Mexico or America? Beating them in Mexico would be unbelievable. I think I would rather beat them in Mexico. I think so, too. Did Mexico change the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America? I think that's still under dispute. Fair enough. I don't know who gets to actually change these things. Like whoever has the bigger... Rand McNally? Nick. They have an office. up the road. They do, by the airport. I can't not say anything. Have you seen, you remember Charlie Brown? Mm-hmm. You remember Lucy? Of course. I want you to Google Lucy and look at her and tell me if you see anything in particular. Okay. Okay. What? Are you saying I look like Lucy? The shirt. I said you look like. And he came in here. He came in here saying that people were going to say stuff about his shirt. I'm wearing a button-up shirt. Every time I wear something nice, people always got to drag you down. You try to get a fit off at the office, and your best friends are like, you look like a cartoon female, dude. Not only that, but a woman from a cartoon that stinks at sports. A kicker. A kicker. Or I guess she's a holder. placeholder yeah special teams i mean it was just glares looking me dead at my face the hair the shirt it was right there i had to that's good well lucy's an iconic character from a beloved comic strip i didn't know she had a last name oh van pelt yeah shout out svp did not know that good friends on netflix you're iconic too brother did not know that about lucy just who else has a last name in that linus van pelt rerun van pelt wait they're they're all related i lucy and linus are siblings i didn't know that rerun was also related this is the first i'm hearing of rerun yeah there's some lore but yeah i mean i guess charlie brown has a last name so it makes sense that there would be other families in town before i was assaulted for my for my appearance today i was just trying to enjoy a moment of being a proud american it's sad that some people get offended by that to the point where they have to do ad hominem attacks but such is life i'm full of those yeah i i exist in that we did beat we did beat canada and it was great and canada's very upset about it and maybe you should have scored when I mean, I opened shot the net, Nathan McKinnon. Like four times. What was the score? 2-1 in overtime. We should have lost like 4-1. 4-2. Those are hockey overtime games. Them shits I love. And the Canadians are very upset because the Olympics did three-on-three overtime, which the NHL does in the regular season. But in the playoffs, they just let you go five-on-five until somebody scores, which has led to some games going three-four overtimes. But in the playoffs, you don't want to. Three-on-three randomizes the result a little bit. so they're upset about that but too bad so sad I guess wait it's not when you say three on three you're not talking about a penalty shot you're talking about three people versus three people correct and a goalie so there's way more ice like it's way easier to score so wow full court 3v3 I've never seen that one I've only seen the shootout so shootout happens after three on three So maybe I did see it. Did the game – we went to a Rangers game and it went to a shootout, right? Yeah, so they played – Well, yeah. Yeah, so they played three on three before that for five minutes. And then if they don't win in five minutes, they go to a shootout. Had no clue. The highlight – that game was amazing, but the one thing I remember was during that game, you told me to YouTube a dude and I was like, fuck. I was like, who the fuck is this? He was the Mike Jordan of – Connor McDavid who plays for Canada. Oh, we beat him? Yeah. and about eight others that are not as good as him. He was the MVP of the whole tournament. Damn. Shout out to us, man. That's fire. He has now lost the last two Stanley Cup finals and got the silver medal at the Olympics. He's kind of. But he's the best player in the world. Probably. He's the second best player ever, maybe. You sound a little bit like Witt right now. Have you watched him? I have. I've watched a lot of comedy. I was thinking about this recently because I was thinking about Conor McDavid and I was thinking about LeBron and Michael Jordan. And I'm sure this point has been made before, but I think there's just an aura around guys from before the internet existed to where there was word of mouth. Like, you have to watch Michael Jordan. And he'd be on TV. Michael Jordan, the Bulls, I assume, were on TV all the time. But, like, maybe Wayne Gretzky was only on your TV six times a year. Yeah. And so you would be like, I have to sit down and watch Wayne Gretzky and then he'd score two goals. And you're like, this guy's the greatest to ever do it. And he is, to be clear. But I just think before the internet, before you could see everything, there was more of a mystique around guys that has lasted well into the 21st century. Yeah. Where we're still like, those guys are the best to ever do it. Even though, like, LeBron's undoubtedly a better basketball player than Michael Jordan. There's really no. Well, there is some truth to that, Big T, I think, because back before the internet was so big, you had to make it an active choice. You had to opt in to seeking out Michael Jordan to watch him on TV. And therefore, because you made that choice with your time, if he has a great game, you build it up even bigger in your own head because it's almost a little bit like congrats to myself for making this choice to watch Michael Jordan. I saw greatness. I saw greatness today. It's like if you spend a lot of money on a meal, you're more likely to think that was a great meal. As opposed to if you spend, if it's a cheap meal, you might really enjoy it. But if you spend a lot of money on it, you're like, that was one of the best meals of my life. Yes. So I think that there's a little bit of that that goes along with it. But also, Michael Jordan is really good. For sure. And Wayne Gretzky, I think, might be an exception because- No, he is. He's the greatest hockey player ever. Now, goalies didn't really play back then. they were pretty much all drunk and dizzy and didn't have pads or eyesight. But that's not to take away from the fact that his stats are just like outrageous stats that Wayne Gretzky has. I think that's the difference. I think there is a certain amount of prestige when you look back at players and that can happen. Because, yeah, it was like, oh, did you see Sean Kemp's dunk, right? Yeah. We don't really regard Sean Kemp as one of the greatest players all the time, but he was one of the best dunkers of our generation, right? Didn't get to see him that much. But when you look at Michael Jordan, there's been four players in a season that have ever done this. One defensive MVP, scoring title, league MVP, finals MVP. Only four players have done that in one season. And it was all Michael Jordan. He did it four times. He's one of the greatest players to ever play. I'm not disputing that. So relative greatness, when you say Jordan's obviously a better basketball player, I don't – LeBron. Like I said, I understand the arguments, and I don't like to go back and forth. It's opinion-based at this point. But to say Michael Jordan just has an or because – No, it's not just that. He was like that. But I do think that exists. He was like that. For sure. He was like that, yeah. I would also be remiss, though, to not point out that defensive statistics from the 90s and the NBA are completely fake, and they juice them for every home team. And offensive rebounds and things like that. I think I saw a stat of Jordan. Like, if he – if you take away all his home defensive statistics, he still would have had, like, something around, like – he still would have led the league in steals or something like that. Yeah. And led the league in, like – I forget the exact stat. I don't want to misquote it. But, no, he was – I mean, just imagine who's the best scorer in the league. They're probably, like, what, Luka maybe? Right now? SGA or – yeah. Okay, SGA. Imagine S.J.'s scoring like he is, but also locked down on defense. Please understand, Michael Jordan, I fully respect him. He's one of the two or three greatest people to ever pick up a basketball. I just don't think we can comprehend that kind of dominance on a court like that. It just don't exist because usually he's specialized in things. Luke is a great scorer. Not that good on defense. S.J.'s a great scorer. Aight on defense, right? James Harden, amazing scorer. He's okay on defense. Imagine Kawhi Leonard on defense, but he's also putting up 36 a game. That shit just don't. For sure. Crazy. I just think there's something to be said for pre-internet guys. And that kind of. We're so unique in that PFT, that generation. Where it's like we can remember what it was like before. So we can appreciate what it was like before. But we also know what it's like now. So we can appreciate it now. Millennials have this very unique position in time. Which I appreciate. I'm glad we got to see the world before the internet. It does make you appreciate shit on the internet a lot more too. And it makes you not appreciate shit on the internet. Yeah, it makes you be like, oh, this is bad for society. Oh, this is really good. Yeah, so I'm stuck in that. So I post, dog, somebody help me out with this, by the way, because since I don't got Twitter no more, I'd be on Instagram probably a little bit more. But I fucking hate that place, honestly. And my feed is filled with a whole bunch of, people I don't fucking follow. I don't understand this shit. It's miserable. I follow people for them to show up on my feed and it's a bunch of shit that you think I'm going to like. I'm like, dog. It's a miserable experience. What the fuck is this? I hate it. I'm like, where are the people that I chose to follow? I didn't sign up for none of these motherfuckers. Anywho, I put a post on the internet talking about some dude who's saying, he's an artist and he was like, AI music is like dog shit. He's like, just stop. This is for humans. And then I got into a couple conversations with some of my people. And one of the dudes is my age. And he was like, it's just like saying sampling, that whole argument and stuff. But it's just a very interesting time, man. I'm going to die on that hill. Fuck AI music. That's for us, though. We don't have to rehash that. I was just saying my Instagram experience. No, I think that's totally fair. I do think that if you look at like what Wayne Gretzky used to do in hockey, I think it'd be comparable to say like if, if when Michael Jordan played, they didn't allow anybody over seven feet tall. Would that be fair to say about like the difference between goaltending then to goaltending now? Yeah. I mean, in hockey, kind of this, but kind of the same thing goes for Jordan. Like there were great players in the nineties, but if you compare the NBA today to then, like it's not even close. Yeah, and if LeBron James grew up in the mid-70s, would he have been LeBron James how he is now? No, absolutely not. The game had to evolve. He had to see other people. He had to steal some of their best shit. I like that point. I like that point. I think that one guy you could say, like Kyrie. Like if he was training in high school with Converse on. Right. Like, you know what I'm saying? Does his calf muscles have the same amount of definition? I don't know. To even know what's possible to do. 100% I think Kyrie might be an exception to that where I think Kyrie is just his brain works so fast I was talking to Clyde Drexler about that exact point because I asked him who do you think the best ballhandlers of all time are and I was like Kyrie is the best ballhander of all time to me and he was like nah I don't think so I was like how the fuck can you even say that like who's yours and he told me Isaiah Thomas and I was like look I think Isaiah Thomas is amazing but like Kyrie and Isaiah Thomas ballhandlers he was like listen He was like, guys could do that shit, but they would call carrying on the majority of these. And I was like, that's a point I never really thought of, that they actually changed the rules. They had, I think it was Allen Iverson, was when he started doing the crossover. Like, seriously? Because if you notice, guys used to be, you used to have to keep your hand on top of the ball. Now, there's really no such thing as a carry unless it's egregious. And so he was saying, he was like, yeah, what they can do now is amazing. He's like, but we couldn't even practice that because they would call it. He's like, so when I look at the best ball hand, I look at the confines of like what was available to the cats at the time. And he was just a different. I was like that makes sense I understand why you got there Still think it Kyrie but I understand how you got there Yeah that is very true I remember watching because we were Georgetown basketball fans in my house growing up because you know we were in the D area And my dad was a basketball player back in the day. He played at, like, George Washington in college. And we were seeing, we were watching Iverson, because he was, like, the craziest best player in the country. That coach. Who's that coach? John Thompson. John Thompson. Big John Thompson, yeah. Legend, yeah, legend. and uh and so we we loved alan iverson we loved watching him but my dad couldn't help himself and every time iverson would bring the ball up the court my dad would just go carry carry carry no carry carry on every single dribble that he had because it's true like just putting your hand on the side of the ball they used to call that that used to be like something you couldn't do so when you see somebody that's able to to maneuver like uh like pistol pete for example way back in the day like he's doing all that shit just by dribbling on top of the ball which is a aesthetically less pleasing way to watch basketball it's better that you can put your hand on the side and do more things with it it makes for a more interesting game but yeah the way it's officiated is a lot different i i still think though that if kyrie if he played back then and he was only allowed to dribble the ball like straight up and like hand on top of the ball i'm sure he would still be incredible though his creativity was is just amazing but that's how i like to liken it so like we looking at the gather step shit nowadays like our parents looked at caring in our day and i and i and they they had a point then it was the bigger one you remember remember the mixtapes yeah of course that like that was huge in our big two you remember that i don't know if you know i remember i wasn't like prime i was young but yeah so i mean that's how we we took that and that's how we started balling like that we put the ball in between the shirt slapped the balls going around the back and in the playground it's like bro carry fuck out of here with that shit like but that's how we grew up that was our it was it was like what is like a like a what's equivalent to that now like a trend where it's like i don't know if they're well have you seen this new thing this has just been in the last month i've noticed this and it's become a thing online, these guys will come to a full stop with the ball, two feet on the ground, you can pivot. But then they'll take one more running step and shoot. And that, I don't understand how it's not a trip. It's textbook and it's legal. If you look at the rules, I hate it. But it's not even a jump stop. It's like they've been pivoting for two seconds at a full stop, and then they'll take one step and move their pivot foot off the ground. I want to look at what you're talking about. I'm trying to remember who the thing on Instagram was that it was going really viral. Because if you do a jump stop correctly, it looks like a travel. It's not a jump stop. 100% of the time. It's not a jump stop. Yeah, there's a bunch of dudes that do that. Just to go viral, they'll look at the rules and they'll interpret the rules in a certain way. And then they'll just do it and it looks ridiculous and then there'll be a conversation. But I've seen guys do it in games now. A guy from Vandy did it the other day. I mean Giannis is a habitual line stepper when it comes to that But again, I understand the OGs in our era We're like, yo, get out of here with this shit I get it I think the pivot foot can come off the ground It just can't land again, right? So he's at a full stop That's a travel The pivot foot can come off the ground I might be way off on this but I've always thought the pivot foot could come off the ground as long as it didn't last again or land again. Well, so you can bring both feet off the ground to shoot. Yeah. But I, I was under the impression you couldn't take one more step from that point. I don't know. Being a ref actually seems like it's very tough. Like it's like a, it's like if you're in a front, yeah. From your pivot foot, you can still have that stepping and, and jump off of one foot. Yeah. that's the thing i've been noticing going around recently yeah so congratulations to the united states yeah we just unironically 15 minutes on jordan on basketball yeah yeah uh but it's it's pretty cool beating canada sorry you got the second place stuffed animal nathan mckinnon i wonder how those super um you know those super like mega canadians who are like all like love the usa yeah they're kind of in a blender i wonder how they're feeling right i think they're just like looking at they're like i can't wait for alberta to secede i think they've pivoted to there's a vote on that this year i know uh i don't know what they're up to because there there are a bunch of canadians out there that are uh mega sympathetic but then they've kind of had to walk away from that a little bit with the whole tariff war and like 51st state stuff canada's not going to be a state in the united states it's not trump likes to say that as part of some negotiation and just to like throw them off balance the problem though is now you do have some people in canada that want to be the 51st state no thank you like yeah through all the bluster that trump had he trump might have just like started to talk us into a situation that we don't actually want like do we really want to run canada no i just want to keep beating them in hockey yeah i think there's a lot of people out there that want to say we're going to make you our 51st state bitch but then not actually have to do anything that goes along with having them as as a state right yeah i mean does anyone want that no i don't think so i don't even think trump wants i think he just wants to say it yeah i agree by the way the the map so non-symmetrical yeah yeah we got a good shape sticking up thing now we do i mean we do already kind of have two that we just kind of ignore in that regard. Yeah, that's also true. But it would really join up Alaska nicely. It's kind of wild that we just have to hop over a whole other country to get to. That's kind of wild. But, I mean, it would be almost worth it just to get. It would really set Alaska off. You think they'd be mad? I know. I think Alaska. It would look great on a map. Yeah. Like Alaska would shoot way up the power rankings. But then Hawaii would be really pissed. Yeah, I think Hawaii at that point would be like, okay, you have 50. Can we leave? I think so, yeah. It's a one-in, one-out policy right now. True. That's what it should be for the United States. Like, 50 is a good number. So if we take what this would be? If we take Greenland, it's like. I don't know the provinces, but there's two provinces on the West Coast. that's alberta and british columbia british columbia yukon territory and just and just have a little pathway to alaska that would make a little bit of sense so we steal their whole west coast i don't think that vancouver will go along with that it's the scatts columbia squamish just in my mind as i'm visualizing this would that not make america look like a toilet if we only took the far left? Yeah. Can't have that. We can't look like a toilet. I mean, it could look like a little pipe. Okay. I'm trying to envision it. I think if we get Greenland, see you later, Oklahoma. Wow. That's your first one to go? I think so, yeah. I mean, I'm not staunchly pro or anti. That wouldn't be my first choice. What would be your first choice? I mean, you've got to make a hard decision. It's not far from Oklahoma, geographically. Would you go with Kansas? No. Perfectly fine people in Kansas. Nebraska? You're going the wrong way. Texas? Mississippi. You're getting closer. Louisiana? You're all over it. Arkansas. Louisiana. Yes. Arkansas. You get rid of Arkansas. Yeah. Oh, Bobby Bones will hate that. That's true. Fuck. I shouldn't have said that. Sorry, Bob. Just combine the Dakotas and then. That's probably, yep, that's the correct answer. Wow, look at you, problem solving. Mega Dakota. Mega Dakota. Yeah, make it Dakota. They'd start a war over that. They probably would. I don't think they like each other, but. That's really all you got going for you. You got FCS college football, which you're incredible at. FBS now for North Dakota State. FBS, it's true. You got decent college football, and then you have hating the other Dakota. those are the main reasons why you get up in the morning and we can't take that away from them be a fun series to start just walk the streets of both the dakotas and say give it to me why is yours the best yeah have a dakota off dakota i've said this before but nicest mcdonald's employee i've ever met in my life fargo north dakota wow go on like just so i i hope that guy owns the store now he was incredible yeah just so nice so over the top like great i don't remember his name but what'd he do i mean this is years ago now he was just awesome he was like a waiter kind of yeah he like checked on us he was uh the egg mcmuffin which is fantastic he was just so nice so great uh you don't get that at mcdonald's all the time you know yeah can i get you started with something to drink you know what you can actually like you walk into the restaurant he greets you in line get your drink going before you even get up to the counter i wonder if we could find that mcdonald's and like be like hey there was a guy there five years ago that was just man what seven years ago now i guess would you be able to pick him out in a lineup no no chance i just remember that he was so nice we got to find this guy if it's somebody that works i mean how many mcdonald's are there in fargo probably a few but if if there's somebody that is so good at their job working at mcdonald's mcdonald's needs to know about that okay we can oh i thought you looked it up no i thought the fuck would i know they need to know about that guy because that's a guy that needs to be in the mcdonald's business i agree you can't have that guy leaving and going to wendy's let's see how many are around fargo like if that guy became like the uh the can you hear me now guy and went to your competitor that's devastating for your industry oh there's 10 it's kind of a lot that was kind of a crazy little switch up i forgot about that can you hear me It was the Verizon dude, wasn't it? Yeah. He went to Sprint? I believe so. Might have been, but now Sprint got bought by T-Mobile. So, Big T, can you figure out where in Fargo you were? There's no way of that way. What was the reason you were in Fargo? It was Blackjack, Fletcher, Paul LaDuca, and myself going on our trip through Canada. That made Rico hate you. Mm-hmm. Okay. Well, this is unbeknownst to me. I mean, this is many, many years ago. Many years ago. This is before this show started. I went on a trip with two guys who used to work here that Rico hated. So Rico decided he hated me because I was associated with them through this work trip. Did you file an expense report? I think Blackjack did all of it, from what I recall. Are you still on good terms with Blackjack? I haven't talked to him in years, but yeah, I think so. Please reach out to him. Okay. I do want to find this guy. I want to, too. If you live in Fargo, North Dakota, and you remember around Thanksgiving of 2019, going to a McDonald's and being greeted by an incredibly nice employee, please reach out to the show. Because I would like to find this guy. Did you guys, or if you are the incredibly nice employee. Did you do any content from Fargo, North Dakota? No, we were just passing through. No videos, no live streams. I don't think so. So the places we stopped for the night where we went from Toronto to South Bend, Indiana. We spent the night in South Bend. Then we went from South Bend, Indiana to Minneapolis. Okay. Then we went Minneapolis to, I believe, Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan. Then Moose Jaw to Calgary, which is where we were headed. I believe that was okay you went from Minneapolis to Moose Jaw I'm pulling this up right now Minneapolis to Moose Jaw Saskatchewan yes it does it takes you right through Fargo yeah and you didn't stay overnight in Fargo did you no just stopped for lunch all right so you were 94 the entire time okay I'm guessing that you did not veer off the highway too much wouldn't imagine so okay so now let's see if we can find some uh some mcdonald's that are close by to this highway there is one that's right off right here that's probably it then can you send you want me to reach out well i was gonna say send it to send to mckenzie and Mad Dog and see if they can make a clip out of that with the location of this McDonald's. Sending to the group chat we have without y'all in it. That's nice. It's like the kids' group chat. It is the kids' group chat. I love that. Y'all are never mentioned if that's anything. What's the most recent thing you guys have talked about in there? Oh, Mackenzie asked who Big T hates at this company. Oh, yeah. I was wondering the list. We talk in it like almost every day. That's nice. Yeah. And then Big T honked at someone thinking it was me and it wasn't. Yeah. Someone was walking in to the office last week as I was sitting in my car. I hadn't gotten out yet. And she had headphones in and looked like Madeline. So I honked to try to like startle her and it wasn't Madeline. That's embarrassing. Yeah. So she just kind of looked around like what the hell was. And I just kind of sunk down in the driver's seat. Okay. Yeah. There's a couple of different McDonald's here. That's right off 94. You've got, you've got one that looks to be in the Brunsdale area next to Lindenwood Park. My man's is on the case. Yeah. And then you've got another one that's closer to the zoo. It's closer to the Red River Zoo in the Willow Park neighborhood. And then you've got a third one. And this one's kind of by the Costco. I would have remembered seeing a Costco. Off Veterans Boulevard. Was it on Veterans Boulevard? I wish I knew. Okay. Also hit up Blackjack and just see if he can remember what McDonald's. Just based on context clues, this Brunsdale looks like, I mean, it's right off the interstate. Do you remember, were you hungry when you got into Fargo or did you get into Fargo and then you thought, hey, I'm getting a little bit hungry? Um, we, I, again, it's been a long time. I don't recall exactly. I just remember we stopped at a McDonald's in Fargo and the guy that was in there. I want to say it was a one man show at the time. I could be making that up. So he was running the shop. I think so. Yeah, I mean, interactions like that with very helpful people are always good things to remember. I hope he's doing great. I've had a couple of those experiences where I'm like, that person's really good at their job. And they take a lot of pride. It's what you want. That's exactly what you want. I'm just thinking we live right next to Hamburger University here in Chicago. Harder to get into than Harvard. That would be the exact type of person that would be Hamburger University material. A thousand percent. Like that's somebody that you want. I hadn't even considered that. You want that person running various franchises for you. Yeah. Like a territory boss. Should we try to go to HBU? I actually stopped in HBU yesterday on the way home from the bar after the U.S. game. Did you? Yeah. What'd you get? Walked home. Well, I thought they'd have lunch by then. And it was like 1045, but they didn't. So I just got a chicken biscuit and a coffee. They should have a basketball team. HPU? Yeah. Might be better than Chicago State. Yeah. McDonald's should have a basketball team. McDonald's All-Americans. Is Chicago State like the fakest Division I school of all time? I think they're probably up there. What constitutes a Division I school? what are the what's the metric you know in basketball i'm not really sure because there's so many division one schools like to be in the fbs in football which is 135 now or something there are legit like your stadium has to be a certain capacity you have i think you have to have a certain enrollment and but then in basketball there's what three there are 365 division one basketball schools which is just way too many that's a lot like kansas is not playing the same sport as uh mississippi valley state who is currently ranked last in kinpom at two and 26 yeah their two wins uh they just won their last game congrats they beat texas southern their other win came on november 5th against the mississippi university for women i remember hearing about that school actually not a women's team i would imagine not have a men's team i i would assume yeah beat the hell out of them 97 61 you gotta circle that if you're mississippi valley the same if you're mississippi valley and you haven't won a game all season you circle you circle the women's college game yeah and you're like that's we get we have to get off the schneid somehow but they did beat just beat texas southern so maybe they uh getting something going uh i've got a message for some of the uh some of the haters and losers out there big t of which there are many there are there are a lot and i'm sure that you saw a lot of these haters and a lot of these losers out there making fun of fbi director cash patel for having a good time with the boys in the locker room cash patel happened to be in milan he was over there doing fbi business as one does which he was very clear about and it happened to coincide with the united States hockey games. He's a big hockey fan, so he thought it might be cool to stop in and see if they're playing. Might even recognize some of the guys out there. So he stopped by the arena. Sure enough, it was at the time that they were playing. They won the gold medal and then they demanded that Cash Patel came into their locker room and chugged beers with them afterwards. So I don't understand why people are upset about a guy for like, just stop. He was on the way to the airport. He had meetings all week he was breaking his back on official fbi business and then a friend of his was like hey can you stop by real quick and say hi and he did so i don't understand what the problem is spoiler like a dork did i cover it did i cover it i feel like yeah well guess what he's the fbi director he's not supposed to look cool he's just there he's probably he's probably doing a lot of like boots on the ground like getting his hands dirty investigatory work didn't have time to look cool nancy guthrie might have been over there yeah yeah you know where they took her you never know kim nancy guthrie's been dead for a long time that still doesn't negate the fact that they would like to know where she went damn sure is the fbi doing that they're definitely involved yeah cash patel has been tweeting about it yeah i mean that's uh what i did notice from cash was when he was on the phone with trump the the screen said dt which means he just has the number saved as donald trump i feel like that's i mean it makes sense but also like you don't even have it's not even president trump it's just donald trump yeah yeah no that's that's a fair point uh i don't have any problem with the the like people on the hockey team not being like hey cash patel get out of my locker room like there's some people that are mad at the hockey team for not standing up to the director of the fbi and telling him to leave like it's bryce harper talking to rob manford get the fuck out of our locker room um and then also like you get a call from the president you're pumped you just won the gold medal you get a call from anybody and you're like thanks man i appreciate the word sport good looking out it doesn't matter um but some people are mad at at uh the players for not like kicking cash patel out cash patel is a hockey man i want to be perfectly clear about cash patel um he gets cheated on a lot by his girlfriend and he has to hang out with the boys sometimes and party and if you got to blow a little steam off i think it's more productive that a guy who's getting cheated on left and right has the boys to hang out with if they're in such a position as running the fbi because that aggression could bottle up and be counterproductive to their job running the FBI. Where is this accusation of him getting cheated on? I don't know this. What's going on? Yeah, she's definitely cheating on him. Wouldn't you? Who's his girl? I thought he didn't marry a girl. Oh, she's a country star, super mega famous person with 15,000 monthly listeners on Spotify. Okay, all right. Cash Patel. Yeah. Girl. I'm out the loop, dog. Alexis Wilkins I think he I believe it's a popular conspiracy theory that she might be an agent for a foreign intelligence service I don't know if that's true I think that she I don't know that's true either but it's a popular theory I think that theory might if I was Cash Patel I would amplify that theory because it would explain things a lot a lot better than she's cheating on me he's 45 she's 27 one of his eyes don't look the right way i don't know man them relationships always kind of kind of funny to me not judging no i am it's there there is a power dynamic there's some data on this but hey you know i think and let love be loved i think it's fine i think it's Fine, but just I would I'd rather him get hammered with the boys than to be feeling lonely and upset and getting hammered by himself. I feel like that's counterproductive, although he does. Here's the thing. I would like to be doing almost everything that Kash Patel does. It seems like he's got a pretty good life right now. Aside from the whole like running the FBI thing. He's doing all right, except for the whole job. But this is how he's just doing like this is he's cosplaying like he's Dave Portnoy. Wouldn't you I understand that he's very bad at his job. But isn't that almost sweeter that you can be so bad at your job and no one does anything about it and you still get to do all the fun stuff. You don't even have to put in the hard work to be good at your job. No, because he still listens to the people that say that he's bad at the job. He's still got the haters out there. And I think he knows that they're a little bit right. Right. His job is a podcaster. He's a podcaster. Totally. That's why I'm saying he is doing Dave Portnoy fantasy camp. It's like travel around the world, go to all the fights that you want to, watch a lot of hockey, hang out with the boys. Yeah. That's a good life that he's got going. But then, unfortunately, he's also the head of the FBI in the United States. I hate when that happens. And that is kind of a shitty space to be in when you suck at that job. Fair. And everyone's always mad at you about that. That's fair. he does love hockey though so good for but i i saw him in the locker room like just getting hammered it's like this is if you're the director of the fbi your job is to be like the most serious dork ever you have to have you have to be almost like no fun at all everyone should hate you even the people that work for you they should hate you but god damn it they should respect you well i was gonna say like comey but then you said respect i yeah i don't know how the people that worked for everyone hated about the the people at the fbi oh i i think so i think pretty much everyone hated comey i think it's like if you have a straight-laced dork that doesn't even like that doesn't like to laugh like i don't i don't enjoy seeing movies that's james comey yeah oh then that's that's who was trump's other one um ray ray wasn't ray involved i don't know who that is. Comey's the only one I can remember. Comey is, he's now become like the most emotional six foot eight guy ever. Oh, really? I think he's doing like poetry and watercolors and shit. George Bush is painting as well. Mm-hmm. You know who else was a painter? Mm-hmm. Think about it. What else we got going on the news today? Mexico? Mexico, Puerto Vallarta. thoughts and prayers with anyone stranded in puerto varita right now so mexico headcount yeah how many people are stuck there or stuck there i don't know i don't know uh i think it's a combination of like a lot of it's a big tourist area with a lot of resorts last i saw there haven't i haven't seen any reports of like tourists being taken hostage or killed or anything like that there i've seen a lot of reports of like uh federales and uh and cartel members being shot or injured but i i haven't seen too much about civilians either mexican civilians or uh like foreigners that are there on tourism but it does seem like they they pretty much shut down the entire town because the uh the head of the local cartel there was was killed by the federales and they just decided in uh in retaliation they're gonna set fire to a bunch of cars maybe set off some explosives shut down the airport pretty much just like shut down the city in general and uh and wait for the troops to come in and try to win back the territory that that my understanding of what going on right now did you see the phone call between that guy the cartel leader that was killed and the police chief from 2016 There a recording of a phone call It insane He calls up the police chief and is like, listen here, fuckhead, you've been messing with my people. Do you want us to eliminate your police force, basically? And he's like, sir, I'm so sorry. I'm telling my guys back off. And he's just manhandling this police chief. And he's like, you like receiving our money doing this, that, and the other, and basically threatens to kill him. And the police chief is like, I promise this will all be sorted out. Like they run the country. Yeah, they do. And there's a video I saw of, it's like a SWAT truck. It's people who work for the cartel, and they are in full head-to-toe military gear. Like you would think they were like a Navy SEAL unit, and it's the cartel. Yeah, they're more powerful than the military in a lot of cases. I wonder what happened that made the government decide, like, okay, that's enough for you right now. Yeah. Because, like, you know, there's a lot of times that they know where the cartel leaders are. And they just figure, what's happening right now might be preferable to the alternative, which is chaos. what i had always heard about the resorts in mexico was you don't have to worry about anything because they're run by the cartels so they make sure that they're running efficiently and that nothing happens yeah because that's how they get money other than the drugs tourism yeah yeah tourism is is pretty important down there i was in puerto var to like what is that 2012 2012? You tell us. I think it was 2012 I was down there. Yeah, like 14 years ago. Looked like a lovely city. I went whale watching there. Stayed at an all-inclusive resort that you couldn't really eat any of the food at because it was all bad. That's when I learned that all-inclusive resorts are not always great. It all tasted bad or would make you sick? No, it all tasted terrible. Yeah. I found the hot dogs were the one thing that tasted okay. Yeah. Besides that, it was like, yeah, you can eat all you want, but you're not going to want to eat any of it. It's a very popular resort town. I saw some of the people complaining yesterday about, there was, I think, one message that was written to the Marriott subreddit, or the Bonvoy subreddit. Platinum Elite. Yeah, did you see that one? Yep. Complaining about their status not being honored in the checkout times. I have it here somewhere. Yeah, read this one. This was great. The title is Weston Puerto Vallarta won't honor late checkout with streets closed. This guy said, p.m. I have multiple questions. First of all, I did a little bit of digging. Platinum Elite is the third tier out of five, and it's barely anything. Ambassador Elite is what you want to be. So Platinum Elite is if you stay 50 nights a year, which is not nothing. Titanium Elite is 75 nights a year. And Ambassador Elite is if you spend 100 nights per year in Marriott Hotels and spend at least twenty three thousand dollars so if if this guy was ambassador elite and he wanted a 4 p.m checkout i'd say they should go out there and take on the cartel themselves yeah you spend a hundred nights a year in marriott's does does marriott have an armed security force and there they might they should um like what corporation if they had their own like paid guard system or guard service what corporation do you think would have like an unexpectedly uh lethal and diligent didn't dole security force wasn't dole involved in a war oh yeah big time yeah the pineapple yeah united fruit company uh i feel like uh obviously bass pro shops sure bass pro shops you would expect that bass pro shops would would have probably like the seventh strongest military in the world probably a if you're listing places you want to go in the event of an apocalypse bass pro shop up there oh for sure except if you go there there's a lot of guns in bass pro shop well that's a plus but i think that like you'd have it would get overrun with people looking for guns and then that might be a bad okay a bad scenario that you're in zombie apocalypse for sure then because then it's just humans against zombies there would be no infighting that would be a good spot for it yeah there will be no infighting with a zombie apocalypse brother Have you met humans? Well, we haven't been faced with that reality yet. Just saying. That's the first thing I want to protect myself from is humans. Fuck the zombies. But if you're holed up in a Bass Pro Shop with some people you may not otherwise like, but the zombies are coming, I think you're going to be on the same page. Then we get into your dream scenario. Whoever holds the bigger stick makes the law. Okay. I'm just saying. I need a big ass stick. Sure. but I think all other disagreements go out the window when the zombies are trying to kill you. I would love for that to be the case. Yeah, maybe not on a macro scale. Pretend hunger is a zombie. Then we end. Okay, but I'm saying in your Bass Pro Shop, the zombies are invading. You're shooting the zombies first and disagreeing on whatever else later. Eminent threat, yeah, I could see that. um my other my other questions about this okay this guy already has a 2 p.m checkout and he needs 4 p.m what difference is that making also where are you going uh and they offered him the uh said we would have to use the hospitality suite they gave him another place to hang out and he was like no i need to be in my room until 4 p.m yeah that's pretty good p.m is an egregious time to check out i think he was expecting that the whole cartel violence thing would wrap up between two and four potentially he's going to need those extra two hours sure to let the car bombs blow over i've never heard of a 2 p.m checkout much less four no 2 p.m is crazy usually you can you can finagle your way what standard checkout now 11 11 11 seems correct yeah there have been a couple times in the last year where i can get a little early depending on how they've pushed it to 10 i've had it i've had a hotel push it to 10 i was em no 10 a.m oh they pushed you to attempt a.m yeah they're like standard checkouts 10 a.m sir that's kind of egregious yeah i was in san diego vomiting my brains out and at 11 on the dot they were at my door and i was like yeah you're gonna have to come back uh let me ask you guys a question do you guys check out of hotel rooms i do not no but now there's a big thing online like you're an asshole if you don't well yeah that started we we were talking uh on part of my take at at the super bowl because big cats assistant dom was like hey are you guys going to check out and we're like no we mean check out and he was like yeah you got to check out of a hotel room and then we said we've never checked checked out of a hotel room and people got mad apparently it's people love to shame you now love to shame like i don't i i still don't really understand what's what's so shameful about not checking out they know that you're supposed to be gone by 11 right yeah they say they can clean the room earlier but i'm usually leaving that i'm usually i'm leaving at 11 unless i'm always out i'm out early if i'm hitting the road then i'll get out early but otherwise it's like yeah i'm out of the room by 11 you know that i'm out of the room by 11 yeah i i don't i don't check out maybe i'll start occasionally if i get if i see one of those boxes in the lobby i'll put my card in there you know you know the box if i happen to be walking past it my card's already out i will put it in that box uh sometimes i'll just like do a flyby the front desk and if i'm walking past the front desk and there's no line i'll just be like check it out i'll give him one of those yeah and but i would know if there was how many people in line until you would never do it if there's one person line i wouldn't do i agree yeah i'm not waiting behind someone to say i'm checking out no if i'm walking there should be some kind of seamless thing that they do on there and to prevent that i think a lot of hotels have you can do it on an app now even that's kind of inconvenient like a button as you walk out of the room push the button yeah i like that that's that's that's that's a them thing because it's it is it's it's not inconvenient in the sense of like yeah i could do it but it's like but no yeah i i paid the money for the service of sleeping in that room until a certain time until a certain time a lot of that time yeah then i'm a lot of that time and then at that point whatever happens is between you and the lord like end of end of my end of the transaction right there i'm out that's that's probably what my argument would be i paid for i paid for my time if you give an option and i leave a little bit earlier i can i can concede that time yeah give me a button to press yeah i'm with that but i as far as you're concerned i have this room till 11 what if i change my mind my room till 11 change my mind yeah how much would if they were like we'll give you x amount of money on your off your next reservation if you check out at the front desk what would that number need to be or even if i leave at 11 like just to make me stop by the front desk yeah you just you have to stop by the front desk say i'm checking out of so-and-so they give you do they give me a piece of paper that i have to sign yes they print out the thing they have okay so i have to wait for them to print something out and then do i need to swipe my card again no to close out no you've already paid close out the tab i just need to wait for them to print something out sign it do they then give me like my copy that i have to take yeah there's two copies it's two guys and there's no trash can around the front no no so i have to like go out into whatever car i'm getting into next with a piece of paper in my hand yes that i don't need i think 50 off wow 50 off and i'll do it and you got yourself a deal it's a bad it's a bad way to start your day is having a wadded up piece of paper that you don't have anywhere to put it and and you don't need it that'll ruin your day do you know uh at disney world they have trash cans i don't know what the number is but walt disney figured out the exact amount of time maximum amount of time people will walk with a piece of trash before they'll just throw it on the ground so disney world has trash cans that amount apart of the whole park oh wow i did not know that yeah just like behavioral science yeah uh yeah so i guess we didn't really talk that much about what's going on in puerto varita but we don't really know just seems like the cartel is not happy that their leader got taken out and so they're gonna they're gonna muck things up for a while down there if you have any vacation plans in puerto varata probably best to avoid that area for a while surely they're refunding everything right and good luck then what do you do then that's where you can't go that's where the double platinum comes into right platinum elite the status platinum elite too good of a name to be third tier out of five so what is what is the best again it was titanium elite and ambassador elite titanium platinum's better than titanium right yes yeah yeah what about platinum plus that wasn't on there all these all these different like bonus programs they use the same words premium plus elite is a big one with hotels yeah all right what else we got going on in the world today uh maybe a war with Iran but we're still kind of waiting on that yeah i thought that was supposed to happen this weekend and it never really materialized you know some would say that that's the difference between the united states and and russia is that russia would would do it during the olympics we waited we wait out of respect for the games for the global community right russia does love pulling shit during the olympics though it's their favorite that's why we keep punishing them at the olympics that's why their their teams aren't allowed to compete because like when it was in socia that's when they invaded crimea and then they did it again with the whole ukraine thing back in what was that 2020 whenever that was whatever happened to the they let them compete but it was like olympic athletes from russia it was uh rock nation it was roc republic oh no it's china republic russian olympic athletes or something something like that yeah or competitors yeah yeah and after the cold war they were allowed to compete as the unified team no but this was in the last few years that they did this and then this time there was just nothing i think it was yeah the russian olympic committee but they weren't allowed to play the russian national anthem this time now that's it's interesting because russia would have had a pretty good hockey team well that's what we got to have them for hockey yeah russia would have a great hockey team i would like to make an announcement on the show i will give you the opportunity to change my mind i am opting out of all punch the monkey no discourse change my mind have you looked at him so cute well or her i believe it's a her all i've seen is a picture on instagram of a some kind of something's going on with a monkey i did i didn't know i scrolled i did not but i guess it's a monkey's going viral and i don't know why for he's sad i believe it's a she i believe we're misgendering her no that's uh i think that's wrong yeah i think they found out it's a he regardless they are well now you are misgendering sorry uh he the the monkey we can do it we can always do it the monkey i guess is new and got put into this zoo in is it japan yeah and the other monkeys hate him his mother abandoned him so they sent him to this zoo and in his little like engagement thing they're bullying him like physically like hitting him and there's video of it so they gave him a monkey stuffed animal that he loves and hugs and runs to protect him from the other monkeys. It makes me sick. But now I think he's making friends. I've seen that they're starting to accept him. Yes, they are. They are accepting him now. But it's so sad the way he carries around this monkey stuffed animal as protection. It makes me sick to my stomach. In one video, he was trying to get the stuffed animal to hug him. I can't. but now he's, he's good. Now they're friends. I mean, that's it. That's just the monkey. Monkey got a little stuffed animal. Yeah. Remember this happened with, uh, I guess this wasn't even real. What was it? A couple of years ago. There was that tick tock fake fish. Oh yeah. I was literally just going to say it was the, the fish with the light on it and it came to the surface to die. Yeah. Yeah. And that got me too. Yeah. And the tripod fish more recently. Wasn't there a pregnant fish? Maybe. I don't know. I think they lied about it. And then there was the Mudang thing for a little bit. Yeah. Which was. But she's mega, they say. Yeah. What? Mudang is alt-right. Where does this come from? The hippo? I forget. I keep seeing on Twitter like, oh, Mudang's a conservative, but I don't know why. The Chinese hippo? Yeah. In the Cincinnati. Or no. you're thinking of fiona fiona the hippo where's mudang asia china or something somewhere i think oh i am thinking of you because also another example fiona the pygmy hippo but this this punch the monkey thing is it's too depressing i know it is depressing so sad every video i've seen it's just like oh this poor monkey is getting beaten up and then it goes back to a stuffed animal i know i had i don't want to watch any more of that i had to like restrain from engaging with punch content because it like actually made me sick to my stomach yeah it's way more fun to watch like alissa lu be cool than it is to watch punch the monkey be completely abandoned and have to rely on a stuffed animal yeah the alissa lu discourse also got annoying i'm just we should not have discourse about people i'm so obsessed i'm so obsessed with her no no one should be allowed to talk about other people no i agree actually it it it's so crazy maybe it's just It's like the algorithm that is shaping people's beliefs and shaping how they choose to interact with things for monetization. Right. The Alyssa Liu discourse was some of the worst I've ever seen within about five hours of her winning the gold medal. Which way are you taking? What are you talking about? Because I've seen two levels of discourse with her. One is about how I don't even want to say it. Men are sexualizing her. Yeah. And the other is about her dad. Which one are you talking about? I'm talking about I'm talking about the men sexualizing her stuff. But it's also like it's two different arguments that are both bad. Which is like one one is like, oh, my God, she's so hot. And oh, my God, I can't believe that she does like this stuff with her hair. She's like she's teasing all us guys. And then the other is she's mid. Right. And it's like neither one of those two things are good. No. Who is this? So she is the, she was basically like, you know how during the Olympics there comes out like from a niche sport, like the person, the story of the Olympics kind of thing. Yeah, like the dancing lady from Australia. Yes. She was kind of that for this Olympics in a positive way. The dancing lady was more of a negative connotation. This girl, basically, she is 20 years old. She's on the United States figure skating team. she was like a child prodigy was the youngest national championship she won the national championship at 13 went to the 2022 olympics at 16 and retired and retired at 16 and was like i'm okay i've accomplished all i need to then came back two years later and had this crazy comeback and then just won gold at the olympics after taking this break and retiring and her father raised her in this really really high environment or high um intensity environment where you know she's homeschooled and she's on a strict diet and all of this stuff and her dad sacrificed so much for her to be this elite athlete and she came back and was like I'm not gonna make any or no one's allowed to tell me what to wear what to do what to eat I'm gonna come back on my terms I'm gonna have joy about this whole process she is like an alt girl like she has a mouth piercing. She has crazy dyed hair. That's really awesome. She's 20. And she also gives like no fucks about the competition of it all. She's like, it's all about the journey. A gold medal is a physical thing. I could lose this tomorrow. This is not what I'm here for. I'm here to enjoy skating. So she's had this really, really cool mindset and level of chill and confidence that has come over her for this Olympic games. And she's this awesome, awesome figure for honestly everyone but especially young women to look up to in sports and men basically have taken it and consider her to be their words not mine i want to make this perfectly clear that she is goon baiting them goon bait goon bait yes that's baiting all right so when i saw that one in particular i thought to myself uh you know what maybe there's no hope well no no i actually do think that there's hope because like the the amount of men out there that would actually use the term goon bait right it's got to be like you could probably count them on two hands hopefully like in the united states like it's definitely deep incel shit it's like deep deep porn has rotted your brain yeah i think i think most most americans watched it and were like and they were like this is very cool and it is very cool how she was like i i think there's a whole conversation that is probably overdue to be had about ice skating and gymnastics and a lot of these other sports where you have to hyper focus on something from such a young age from the age of like nine years old to excel at it right uh and it's very very unhealthy not just like obviously in gymnastics there's been like documented well like abuse that's happened but just the idea that you like send your kids away yeah and all they do is focus on one sport so they can be good at the olympics it never ends out well for anybody involved they either like have a disastrous mental breakdown and hopefully come out the other side or they just get so involved in that sport that they end up making it worse for the next generation and put them through the same stuff that they had to go through totally but it seems like alissa leo how do you say your last name yeah leo leo seems like she has it kind of figured out i think she has the most good perspective i've ever seen out of any person ever in the world and she's really good and she's so good she won gold she has sick um routines she's so awesome i i had loved uh getting to watch her this olympics and yeah the men online i saw i think the tweet that you saw as well pft was like no one told me it was the goon-baiting olympics and it's just pictures of like female athletes where it's like brother it's it's only fans brain it's it's i think it's far worse than only fans i think it's deep deep like page 200 of porn hub porn that you couldn't even think about if you tried uh it's just like so terrible i don't know if i'm like desensitized to that kind of shit or my libido is uh running on e but i i another thing i've never really been like that like i've never seen like uh an attractive woman and like swooned in a way that was like oh my god bro i would you know it's never it's never been that for me it still ain't so i don't that that shit that shit miss me i don't understand that shit that is a that's for the level of that's a level of hornet that i just can't relate to like it's and it's not even and again not to get like too woke friend but like it's not even and I think it's far past horny I think it's obviously those types of people men don't see women as actual like human beings that's it's a pure sexual object and guy got like guy is shocked that pretty women in Olympic like it is not you are not making a point by saying like hot women exist in the Olympics like it's so disgusting and gross and it's like um these women worked their whole lives to be elite at these sports and dudes on twitter are like goon baiting like you are despicable like human scum like i hope god i hope you get what you deserve um and i think it's and more and more yeah i think it's gross i think like her um like michaela schifrin uh eileen goo even though she has her own discourse like i think all of them are so great i think a lot of this olympics was like mindset talk of like i can have fun and be good at my sport at the same time i don't need to like ruin my whole life for this and alissa lou was like obviously oh man question do women goon or is that just the dude thing i mean you arian you remember that article that we briefly read about the goon culture? I mean, it's a very faint memory. My bandwidth is... Isn't gooning jerking off? It's like a... I don't want to say a lifestyle, but it's a lifestyle. It's like dudes that have set up their entire life around jacking off. So is there a... The gooners. Is there a woman version of gooning? I don't think so. I don't think women's do that. I think that there's a lot of guys that are actively involved in the gooning subculture that might pretend to be women online. Is there gay gooning? Because then a dude could be goon baiting a gay gooner. Right? You've lost me. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what that sentence was. Is the culture just strictly around women and dudes beating off to that? Or is it just like a term? I would think that dudes jerking off to women or gooning or whatever is the majority. That's all I'll say. So, like, if there's a gay gooner, real gooners are, like, you know, they'll claim appropriation. I just want to say how deep the rabbit hole goes in this internet world again Arian I think there are things happening on the internet that you would probably collapse at if you saw clearly but I don't know I thought gooning was just another word for jerking off I didn't know it was like a more intense version of it goon baiting might be one of the funniest terms I've heard from the internet in a long time that he's gonna goon bait me like that it's so it's fucked up so nasty it's fucked up they that i have to check off yeah my mind of my business here come pft with this loosely haircut so i assaulted you that was actually there's an episode of uh of beavis and butthead where i think they do that they try to file a sexual harassment lawsuit against because a girl looked hot a chick in their class because she looked hot and they were getting boners. She's doing it again. Beavis and Butthead. Yeah, the best. I need TP for my bunghole. The best What else we got going on today in the news uh the only other thing i had was a murder of a caltech professor did you see this i i saw that there was a caltech professor that was murdered yeah so uh this guy remember there was one in december a plasma physicist from mit who was murdered and now this guy from caltech was killed right and there are some people on the internet drawing uh conclusions from the two i guess they both worked on like dark matter kind of stuff and physics let me let me see if i can find the tweet from somebody the two top scientists two shooting months apart a caltech astronomer in 2026 a leading plasma physicist in 2025 authorities say quote unrelated incidents maybe they are but when people working at the frontiers of science start dying suddenly it's hard not to wonder whether someone discovered something they weren't supposed to or was about to say something they shouldn't and then there was another again these are I guess you'd call them conspiracy theorists but another guy said two brilliant minds gone in months MIT plasma fusion expert Nuno Lurero shot dead December 2025 Caltech astrophysicist Carl Grillmayer gunned down his porch in February. Larrero worked on magnetized plasmas. The exact domain Ron Joseph's 2024 paper calls out is potentially conscious plasma with self-aware shape-shifting entities in our atmosphere that hunt, communicate, replicate, and form neural-like networks. Joseph argues that plasmas prove a fourth domain of life and that the quantum electromagnetic universe itself is alive and sentient. Waveform collapse, entanglement, that universal mind consciousness isn't just in brains, it's woven into the cosmos. So I guess there are people who think these guys were working on some real top-level shit, and they've now both been murdered. So my understanding is that some people saw the MIT guy when he was murdered, and it was so close after the shooting at Brown University, right? And so they're like... That sounds right. They were like, I'm going to connect these dots here. And then there was another shooting for another professor that reminded them of the other shooting that reminded them of the Brown University shooting. And now they're like, let's connect these dots here because it's two professors. Could be. I do think one professor working on really top level stuff like that, getting murdered. Okay. Like people get murdered sometimes. Terrible. But that does happen. Two is a little interesting. it is interesting but i'm gonna wait i'm gonna wait for all the facts to come out on this one there is a uh astrophysicist uh young brother who got his phd he covered this story he liked to debunk shit like this and he did he was like and he said it looked like a robbery going wrong the original i don't say original but one of the conspiracy theories around it was that he discovered water yeah on a planet light years away and the way the dude debunks he was like there's he's like there's fucking water in our solar system he said there's frozen water on the moon which i did not know that's what he said frozen water on the moon mars much like europa mars i guess he's like there's traces of water everywhere in the universe he's like it's abundant he's like stop doing this shit it's funny there's that follow up there's that one and there's always the like uh scientists discovered method of turning water into energy and they got killed turning water into yeah yeah because the oil the oil like like dams no yeah yeah good point no like hydrogen energy it's like the we won't have any more use for oil and so the oil companies had them killed there's always those conspiracies there's a dude who i follow he's a brother from He's from Atlanta, I think he's from Atlanta. And he converted, or he made a machine that converts plastic into oil. I don't know if it's oil, but it's like, is it petroleum? I don't know. He can run engines off of what he created, which is really dope. But I think, I don't know if it's unique to him. I think it's been done before, but it's just really hard to do at scale. And I just see a bunch of people saying like, they're going to kill you, bro. 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Hey, this is Tom from Providence. I'm calling in about the receiving yards thing, passing yards. And I actually don't disagree with it. I like what Arian's saying. I think if I was to play devil's advocate, I think it's much harder to get yards after catch when the receiver has to make a catch on a non-perfect ball, like something outside of his frame. Maybe he has to slow up. Like on the deep balls, maybe he has to slow up, and then he can still make the catch for the cornerback. Safety, et cetera, has time to catch up to him, make a tackle. I think that's really your best argument. Again, I'm not even really saying I believe it. I think the passing yards thing that Aaron's talking about is very interesting. But yeah, I think the argument really is that like you're hitting your receiver in stride and you're like allowing him giving, you know, giving him a good chance to make a move on the defender or like, you know, continuous acceleration. All right, guys. Love the pod. Be good. You're all beautiful. Okay. I love at the very end. And y'all are beautiful. You too, brother. Would you say that you've gotten more support for your idea, more pushback area? I would say that I have given less fucks about what people tweet me anymore. Okay. So much so as I don't have Twitter anymore. But I don't know. I have yet to hear a convincing argument still. They'll just say, that's stupid. Or, well, then you might as well. What's the word? Well, should we give the linemen your yards as well, too? And again, it's just not a logically formed argument. You need the ball. the ball carried yards is why we accumulate them and give them to a player the ball is the thing i have yet to hear convincing argument my mind is open though changed my mind me and steven crowder sitting there okay um so that's the last voicemail we have uh no we have i think we have more after that by the way call us up leave us a voicemail what's the number three 347-560-0401. Hey, Macrodosing. This is Brett from South Carolina. I'm calling in about Arian's take on quarterbacks and their receiving yards. I just had an example that I've been thinking about, and I want Arian to weigh in on it. If there's a really good quarterback that's really good at throwing the deep ball and hits his receivers in stride and hits their outside shoulder all the time, always away from defenders, and that allows the receiver to get more yards after the catch. catch shouldn't they get that credit also i understand plays like screens have nothing to do with the skill of the quarterback but i'm curious what you think of these scenarios stay handsome stay beautiful love you guys yeah i know yeah yeah i mean i just again if you if you want me to answer it i will the quarterback has nothing to do with when the receiver catches the ball his his presence is no longer needed in the stat sheet it's done good throw you executed your job your job was to get that ball to the receiver good bad whatever the pass is you did it job's done now it's the receiver's job to catch the ball and whatever you do after that that's you what if the quarterback's arm is so powerful that he throws the ball so hard that when the receiver catches it it pulls them forward an extra like half mile per hour no job to get the receiver the ball good job fam the receiver's job is to execute afterwards no but they're getting a boost they're getting a speed boost from catching the ball that was going so fast that is just physics how physics works yeah okay you get no you get you get no credit for that sounds like arian is not willing to engage in good faith debate. Not true. I am. I just don't follow logically. The argument does not follow. Doesn't follow. Oh, could this vintage store be any cuter? Right. And the best part? They accept Discover. Accept Discover in a little place like this? I don't think so, Jennifer. Oh, yeah, huh? Discover is accepted where I like to shop. Come on, baby. Get with the times. Right. So we shouldn't get the parachute pants. These are making a comeback. I think. Discover is accepted at 99% of places that take credit cards nationwide. Based on the February 2025 Nielsen Report. One of the only voicemails we got in the past couple days was yelling at you guys. It was kind of a beef about how in times of war you guys wouldn't step up. And I chose to not include that. In times of war we wouldn't step up for what? For fighting. they were like you you guys would cower um yeah let's hear it i'm down you want me to get it yeah i mean it just sounds like very odd hating but like if the united states was invaded i believe so i believe that was the the gist was like i gotta pull calf right now so I'm also afraid of heights that's also true here what an odd mantle to take up I like it though I like it holding us accountable it's kind of a compliment being like you guys could do some damage and yet you won't we hold it back it's Matt and Charlotte I just wanted to leave a voicemail in case you guys ever do one of those sort of hater voicemail mailbag episodes again. Basically, I don't like you guys. And part of the reason is because, you know, you're like military-aged males who are able-bodied. And, you know, PFT, I just listened to you go off on a rant about, while not knowing what CENTCOM is, you know, sort of a battle plan for what the F-22 and F-35s would do. I do know what CENTCOM is. I just didn't know where it was located. He's the sort of Republican, wants to be a macho guy. like we know what you guys would do during a time of war you would go to college join a frat y'all are a fucking joke um i'm glad that billy's off the show but honestly y'all are unlistenable uh love you stay beautiful stay handsome okay signed a listener so unlistenable he quoted things he talks about on the podcast and called in to ask about it and did the stay handsome stay beautiful i can't tell if that was a joke or not i'm still confused about had to be like during a time of war what would we do like fact check i did go to college during a time of war instead of enlisting i could have volunteered there was no draft but we invaded iraq my my senior year of high school just a round table but i did not join a frat this guy's like we have empirical evidence i i also did not join i did not join a frat i yeah i want to verify this man's opinion about me in no shape or I don't know if I ever would ever volunteer for any war. Rob Markman, Agreed. Rob Markman, 1000% correct about that, brother. If I got drafted, I would sit my ass in that jail cell. You call me a coward? That's fine. I'm not fighting America's war for any kind of global dominance. No sir. No sir. No sir. I'm taking a Malcolm X approach. If you don't know what Malcolm X thinks about that, go ahead and look that up, my brother. But you're absolutely correct. I am not fighting no other man's war. Now if you come to my doorstep, I got something for you. you just like a general like you know i've equipped myself to defend myself in my house in my land amen brother to that nah brad you ain't fighting no other man's war hell no you got that one correct but i did not join no frat don't you dare say no bullshit like that that's bullshit yeah these are three fratless fellows right here yeah gdis i despise that terminology for multiple reasons goddamn independence it's like what frat kids came up with to make it seem like if you didn't join a frat you were weird yes they like flipped in there yeah yeah no uh listen there's empirical evidence that there was a war that was happening that took place my my senior year of high school and i did not enlist i'm a quaker it sounds like this guy has a problem my religious beliefs my religious beliefs are being a conscientious objector that violence just begets more violence and wars don't really accomplish anything except destroying the human spirit and uh from a spiritual place it's not in my dna to actively enlist in the military that doesn't mean that i can't be fascinated by fucking f-22s and f-35s that's like my i love jujitsu yeah those are my planes it's well within my rights to be interested in planes do we think that guy was serious i'm genuinely confused no i think i think he's a listener of the show i think he's just doing he's remembering the time when it was like the hater voicemail where he could like beef with us. Yeah, but he did say, like, he put some steak on it. He put some steak on it, and then at the end he said, stay handsome. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought it was an interesting voicemail. I appreciate the conversation. By the way, I know what Synccom is. I didn't know what city it was located in. Sorry. I kind of like it. We bring back the hater voicemail. I kind of like that. I choose to usually keep those. I also noticed that this guy I didn't, he, like, he had a lot of stuff to say about my battle plans, but he didn't poke out any holes in them or point out where I was wrong. Fair enough. I think that was a tacit admission that my battle plan was spot on. I like what Josh Pate does on his show at the beginning of the season. You can say whatever you want about his predictions as long as you put out your own. Okay. You can say whatever you want about us as long as you also engage somehow with your own opinion. Josh paid in a little bit of hot water for sitting down with the president. Did you watch it? It's just, yeah, I did. It's weird. It's a weird time. Can we agree on that? It just doesn't. I don't understand what the point was. Because first of all, it was like eight minutes. Yeah. He said they were going to talk about college football, which was anyone. I totally understand if the president says he wants to come on your show, I will not begrudge anyone for having the president on their show. but then he said they were going to talk about college football and they didn't really we're going to talk about college football in mid-february he was correct that well josh pate does college football all year long i know but it's weird time uh and i love his show by the way one of my favorites um i just didn't it was it was an odd interview because he was correct they didn't really talk about politics either trump steered it there a couple times but not really you talked about herschel walker it's like herschel walker what a great guy isn't he great as they're sitting in rome georgia so everybody clapped yeah he talked about how much he loved gunner stockton who was there in the varsity uh good good spot by the way um but yeah it was just it was a weird interview i thought i think it was like a it was a midterm campaign stop for trump yeah i mean he was campaigning with gunner stockton and herschel walker in georgia yeah uh ambassador to the bahamas herschel walker did you see that trump didn't know he said is it bahamas or what was the other countries said barbados i think he was like it's one of those yeah we just gave him a job yeah we gave a little hers a job you know hershey walker was going to be a bobsledder no yeah i think it would have been a damn good bob i think he picked that shit yeah he killed that shit he killed football pretty well too though he did his thing yeah i think um here's what i'll say about the josh pate donald trump experience i would i would have donald trump on macrodosing agreed absolutely oh what but isn't josh pate's whole thing that he's like not political well he wasn't getting he didn't get into politics with president trump it was a strictly apolitical interview with we're pro josh pate just to be clear yeah i like josh i don't know josh i like josh pate a lot and he's a really good college football guy he's he's in the last year or two become very very popular if you have the president on your show it's uh it's good for business a thousand percent no matter who the president is it's good for business and he's an awesome story started out in like very small time radio in georgia and grew his own show to the point that it's uh very popular he's awesome you know what cash why don't you come on come on macrodose and cash would love to talk to he's also a follower on twitter so i consider him a big t believer of sorts we've never spoken oh josh pate yeah yeah i'm sure that i'm sure you and paid have a lot in common we love college you love college football and your take i actually am talking about your college football takes and and your limited tolerance for nonsense yeah i'd love to have josh paid on this show as well as donald trump either one if either one wants to come on open invite maybe we have maybe we have a debate maybe we have maybe we have uh josh pate and keith olberman i you want to talk about numbers yeah i mean that'd be incredible yeah that would actually be so awesome i'd love to do that keith olderman is just he's he's trying to get some sort of attention wherever you can get it agreed um anything at all to discuss with the john davidson tourette's episode uh i i saw that that happened i didn't watch yeah the video yeah uh it's pretty tough it's a tough sell like you got a guy with Tourette's and he's saying all the words that you can't say and but is he being racist when he says him if it's a pathological condition yeah it's a weird spot I would say no because I I don't understand Tourette's but I know a few people with it. And there's different conditions. And if you have a tick, it's uncontrolled. We can't control it. And usually the ticks are vulgar. That's it. It's like a neural pathway that misfires. And you can't control it. You can't control it. So I think that's... I think it was probably weird in the moment. And if you don't know, somebody has threats. It's probably weird. But if you further investigate, you know what I'm saying? And be like, yo, that's what I did. Nah, it's nothing burger, man. Credit to Michael B. Jordan, though, for handling it the way that he did. I would have completely understood if he had just walked away. Or said something back. Or said something back or just walked off the table and be like, fuck this. I'm not going to sit up here. The guy who did it, is he known? Like, is he an actor? He's known. He had a movie, I think, that was in relation to his battle with Tourette's. Okay. Yeah, just a pretty weird situation. By the way, maybe I'm an idiot. You saw Paddington at that thing, right? So I assumed that that was CGI, like, on the stage. But then I also saw this video. Is he real? They had real Paddington. he's real because I saw a video of him on like the red carpet too I believe that is a real little Paddington yeah I don't want to I don't want to assume yeah I don't want to ruin the magic I don't know is it like a remote controlled thing is it is it a kid in there that I don't know yeah I don't know i need to to know more about paddington but i i don't think it was an animated version i believe it was a real paddington it's what it seems to be but i thought i thought i was going crazy for a minute i don't know good for him all right uh how's everybody doing the snow in d in uh new york city right now everyone okay that we know of there's like a blizzard coming huh yeah they're It's there. They're getting like two feet of snow. Yeah. Is it weird that I kind of wish I was there? Oh, no, not at all. I kind of wish I was there for that. We never really had in the time I lived there anything like that. There was one time it snowed maybe six inches. Yeah. But never anything like this. It's crazy. Like only essential vehicles are allowed to drive. I saw that DoorDash was paused. Like, you couldn't order DoorDash. Well, they closed the streets for, like, 12 hours. Right. But it wasn't even, like... I mean, I don't know how, like, closing the streets in New York works, where it's, like, can bikes... Like, obviously, bikes can't get through in, like, a foot and a half of snow. But they were, like, DoorDash isn't accepting any orders. Yeah, no. The New York office, they have a snow day today. that's i'm i am like that does kind of look i do i i kind of want just like an apocalyptic amount of snow not where i'm out having to travel anywhere like where you just get everyone's just trapped because this i would like for everybody to be trapped for like a day 30 hours yeah this looks way way more um like snow day fun yeah then the storm that happened whatever it was like a month ago in like nashville and like dc that was like the ice and it was ruining communities this looks more innocent this looks just like two feet of snow yeah i believe yeah i would not i want me to be like stranded in my own house for 30 hours everybody else to be like snowed in where you all go through together i obviously understand that that would mean that like ambulances couldn't get around which would be bad there are obvious if you had medical issues or what have you i just kind of like the idea of a crazy amount of snow hitting and shutting everything down just for the chaos of it and also it's fun to go outside in the like in like two feet of snow and just be like damn this is crazy i don't think snow days ever lose their spark no matter what age yeah it's a little magic yeah there was like already as of last night or this morning early this morning like 15 inches of snow in central park and then there's been another you know five or six or however many hours since then like going sledding in central park yeah no work just like looking out the window and be like damn it's still snowing yeah damn look how hard it's snowing right now yeah that's good shit go to the bodega sure the bodega's still open get some hot chocolate yeah that's some good shit that i look i i obviously know there would be drawbacks like bad things would probably be happening or are happening due to complete shutdown of everything. Yeah. But isn't it just kind of fun for a little bit? It's awesome. Yeah. It's the best. Okay. Well, we will see you guys on Thursday. Goodbye. Love you guys.