Alix vs. Alex What The Hell is Going On, Why You Might Fall Asleep During The Laguna Beach Reunion, Plus Should We or Should We Not Be Watching the Miniature Wife?
56 min
•Apr 16, 20263 days agoSummary
This episode of I Am All In covers celebrity drama involving podcasters Alex Cooper and Alex Earl, a space mission landing recap, the disappointing Laguna Beach reunion, and discussions about streaming content including The Testaments and various entertainment trends.
Insights
- Celebrity feuds in the podcasting/influencer space generate significant audience engagement despite hosts' initial disinterest, suggesting parasocial investment in creator conflicts drives viewership
- Nostalgia-driven content (Laguna Beach reunion) underperforms when it relies solely on brand recognition without delivering substantive drama or new narratives
- Streaming platforms use strategic product placement and sponsorship integration (Coles/Roku) to drive viewership of legacy content reboots
- AI-generated content is becoming indistinguishable from authentic creator output, creating new consumption patterns among younger audiences
- Dark documentary content about exploitation in entertainment (boy bands, child stars) resonates with audiences seeking accountability narratives
Trends
Influencer feuds as primary entertainment content driver in podcast/social media ecosystemNostalgia marketing fatigue when reunion content lacks authentic conflict or new revelationsStreaming platform consolidation of legacy IP with heavy sponsorship integrationAI-generated music gaining traction on TikTok and social platforms without disclosureTrue crime/exploitation documentaries gaining prominence in prestige streamingSpace tourism and civilian space missions as mainstream entertainment spectacleGenerational name trends and cultural identity markers in naming conventionsParasocial relationships driving engagement with creator drama over substantive contentCoachella as distributed streaming event rather than in-person festival experienceDark narratives about child exploitation in entertainment gaining mainstream visibility
Topics
Podcast Network Business Models and Creator DisputesInfluencer Feuds and Social Media DramaNostalgia Marketing and Legacy Content RebootsStreaming Platform Sponsorship IntegrationAI-Generated Music and Content AuthenticationSpace Tourism and Civilian Space MissionsDocumentary Content on Entertainment Industry ExploitationGenerational Naming TrendsParasocial Relationships in Creator EconomyFestival Streaming and Virtual Event ConsumptionChild Star Exploitation NarrativesPodcast Network Talent ManagementSocial Media Feuds and Reputation ManagementCoachella Festival Coverage and StreamingPrestige Television Series Analysis
Companies
Unwell Network
Podcast network founded by Alex Cooper that signed Alex Earl as one of first creators; became center of business dispute
Coles
Department store chain that heavily sponsored the Laguna Beach reunion special with multiple ad placements throughout...
Roku
Streaming platform that hosted the Laguna Beach reunion; praised by hosts for user-friendly interface and accessibility
Call Her Daddy
Podcast hosted by Alex Cooper; central to business dispute with Alex Earl over network management and creative control
The Handmaid's Tale
Prestige television series that spawned The Testaments spinoff series; discussed as high-quality streaming content
Hulu
Streaming platform hosting The Testaments series featuring Elizabeth Moss and Stephen Colbert narration
People
Alex Cooper
Founder of Unwell Network; central figure in dispute with Alex Earl over podcast management and alleged mistreatment
Alex Earl
Former Unwell Network creator who left podcast and publicly criticized behind-the-scenes environment as 'messy'
Brianna Chickenfry
Friend of Alex Earl who publicly criticized Alex Cooper as 'mean girl' and inserted herself into creator dispute
Lauren Conrad
Star of Laguna Beach reunion special; heavily promoted event across multiple media platforms and partnerships
Elizabeth Moss
Star and producer of The Testaments series; made surprise appearance in episode one as character June
Stephen Colbert
Provides narration for The Testaments series; replaces Oprah from original Handmaid's Tale narration
Joey Fatone
Producer of boy band documentary series discussing exploitation and abuse in music industry
Lorenzo Lamas
Dating Heather Locklear; discussed as Gen X celebrity couple; known for Grease and Renegade roles
Heather Locklear
Dating Lorenzo Lamas; known for Dynasty and Melrose Place; discussed as Gen X celebrity relationship
Bryson DeChambeau
Masters golfer discussed as attractive celebrity; age 32; mentioned in context of celebrity crushes
Justin Bieber
Performed at Coachella; discussed in context of childhood exploitation and inappropriate interview treatment
Britney Spears
Referenced as parallel case to Justin Bieber regarding childhood exploitation and media mistreatment
Matthew Morrison
Discussed for unhinged social media performances and recent Broadway role; former boy band member
Ellie Kemper
Known for Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt; featured in Coles department store commercials
Rory McIlroy
Won the Masters golf tournament; discussed in context of sports viewership
Quotes
"I don't have drama with Alex Earl. Like this is fake, fake, fake, fake, fake."
Alex Cooper•Early episode
"This is a big deal. Keep caring because this is a big deal."
Danielle•Mid-episode
"Cooper is the alpha and she's trying to contain Earl and shove her a new one."
Emma•Mid-episode
"It is so good. It is so good. It is so good. This is why I look like this. Because I stayed up until two in the morning."
Amy Sugarman•Late episode, discussing The Testaments
"Too long. Don't read. TLDR. Yellow."
Amy Sugarman•Mid-episode, explaining internet acronym
Full Transcript
We are so happy you're here because you actually decided to listen. So thanks everybody. Okay, that was good, but I'm not going to lie guys. She did one a minute ago that was better. I think it was, we're so happy you're here because you listened because you wanted to. Oh, you know what? There you go. Either way you say it. I stole it from you. We're just happy you're here. We're happy you're here. So we got who? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's Danielle. Yeah. And we've got Jackie, Hannah and Emma and I never like to say my own name, but I'm Amy. I hate my name is so. No, I love your name. Amy Sugarman. It's like if you were born in 1974, you probably have the same name, but after that, nope. I swear. That's like if you're 30 and your name Vanessa. Yeah. Of course you are. Totally. I like the names now. There's so much like cooler. Yeah. Unique and hip and whatever. Although like somebody needs to bring back like Betty and Estelle. They are people are bringing back like like Winnie and bring back all the golden girls names Blanche Rose. There's a lot of Rose and there's a lot of Blanche. That's those are cool names. Blanche is back. Yes. I know a kid named Blanche. Respect. I know someone's dog named Blanche. Speaking of people with the same name. Oh, yeah. I know people never like to be named after the dog, but it's there's nothing you can do. Everyone's dog is named something. Speaking of people with the same names. I need you guys to break this down, but please don't don't make it hard on me. Hmm. Alex Cooper, Alex Earl. First of all, the fact that they have the same name makes the whole thing super complicated. I want to call her Alex because one of them is not Alex. So let's just use the full names for this so we can keep it straight. I need you to tell me what's going on. Why is everyone so invested? Here's what I know. Alex Cooper's got the podcast, Call Her Daddy. Alex Earl also had a podcast. She was on Dancing with the Stars. She's real cute. And I watch her get ready with me is for Coachella, right? Mm hmm. I know there was some drama years ago. They worked together and they did it. They did not work together anymore. Don't be to fill in those gaps really quick. Let's start with that. Yeah. So Alex Cooper has a podcast network called Unwell. Yep. One of the very first people Alex Cooper signed to her network was Alex Earl. So Alex Earl's podcast was on Unwell Network. Got it. So they were, do you consider that business partners? They were in business together. Colleagues, business together, yeah. Right. Then one day, Alex Earl post on Instagram saying, I'm no longer doing my podcast. You know, I'll come back one day, whatever, something along those lines. So she separated from Alex Cooper and the T was it was dramatic. There was some falling out. Yes. OK. And so cut to Alex Earl does an interview and the person asked her about Alex Cooper and Unwell. And she alludes to the fact that behind the scenes, she made a very short comment that, oh, you know, behind the scenes, it's a little crazy. Did she say crazy or messy? That was behind the scenes a little bit of a hot mess. She responded in a Wall Street Journal interview. And that was the only sentence she had. OK, fair enough. All right. So then what? Which is it that bad? Was that a bad thing to say? It's not a nice thing to say, but it's not that terrible. It's not bad. But if I said about you, Daniel's a hot mess. You might be like, yes, I am, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. I know me too. I'd be like, thank you. I am. That's what it's like. OK. But anyway, so then what happened? Is Alex Earl. This is where, I guess you can say she went a little shady where, you know, she was liking and commenting on things that were negative towards Alex Cooper. Obviously, they don't care for each other. Right. Obviously, there's some they're not they're not getting brunch. They're not, you know, they're not EFFs. An update. Her podcast still exists. Continue. Make sure new episodes are posting. Yeah. So that's where this is all stemmed from. Now, OK, the, you know, gasoline went on the fire was when Alex Cooper did a video saying saw this right where she's just like, I don't I don't have this is fake. I don't have drama with Alex Earl. Like this is fake, fake, fake, fake, fake. Please Alex, girl, please, please tell us all what happened because I know what happened. I know the truth. So tell us. OK. Mocking her being like, there's this is a nothing burger. What are you talking about? And then Alex Earl comments in under the video and goes, OK, on it. Like OK, OK. That's a little mic dropping. All right. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. And yeah, I mean, and since then, Alex Earl hasn't said anything about it. Like, I think she's prepping what she's. Wait, but she did post yesterday on one that the video of her. Yes. The next day Coachella true getting the news and her friends showing her the Alex Cooper video and she's like waking up in bed and she thought, oh, is this is supposed to be funny? And then she reacted and she laughed afterwards. She said, this just made my day. Yes. So that's the only thing she's posted, but she hasn't said anything on the case. Like this is why I don't like Alex Cooper. She has not done that yet. I think she is ruminating on it and is going to do something big to reveal whatever Alex Cooper did. So I so badly wanted to care about this. And yeah, no, no, no, keep caring because this is a big deal. Keep caring now that I'm the more I'm hearing the less I'm caring. But no, you got to keep trying. Keep trying. Keep trying. There's one more person that jumped in and literally an hour ago posted a video. Brianna chicken fry. La Paglia. I know her from Special Forces. Alex Earl's friend. So Alex Cooper posted an Instagram story today with the DMs with with chicken fry. That color chicken fry. Good night. Yeah. It's so silly. But them having like niceties and all that. And then Brianna posted said, I only have those DMs with you because that was before I found out how you really are that you are just a mean girl and all that. So who's the mean girl? Brianna chicken fry. I say, no, freaking Cooper. She's mean girl energy, dude. This is like this smells mean girl energy. Brianna chicken fry. Yeah, she inserted herself into this drama that she did not need to be a part of. But like whatever, fine, whatever. Cooper, like I look, I get I get being on the side where you're like, there's no drama. What? Why are you making this a big deal? But obviously the other person is her and has beef with you. So what she's doing right now is she fired her for sure. Because I just don't care. You can tell Cooper is a mean girl. Sorry, it's bold statement. And if she's not a mean girl, I hope you're not a mean girl, but your actions right now are really showing that you are. OK, that's my. Now, explain to me. So, OK, I don't want to care. I don't. I tried to care. And now I'm like, oh, this is brutal. Explain to me why you all care so much. I'll say for myself. OK. I care because it is Alex Cooper and Alex Earl, obviously, two very common like them female women in the podcasting space. Got it. Social influencer space. So whatever in the zeitgeist, very big women right now. OK, they're just totally dogging on each other. It sucks. Like I feel like they're subtly dogging on each other. There's like I think there's subtle. I think Alex Earl was doing subtle. And I think Cooper is like. Slamming slamming the lid. Did could it could you could you argue? Alex Earl started it by saying it's messy, messy over there. I don't know. I guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure. Sure. And how does chicken fry get in the mix? I think it's a relevant. I think chicken fries are relevant to this right now. But each friend with her. Yeah, but she's just been. How many people care about this? Like, do a lot of people care? I do. Yeah. I do for the same reasons as Dan. Is this like us magazine lead story or no? No, I think so. For sure. Yeah. And what you tell me? You I feel like you probably care the most out of all of us. Me? No, Emma. I completely care. Alex is my Alex Earl is my age. And I feel like she is probably taking a stand because her popularity since leaving unwell has grown. And it's captivated more audience members in a different way than Alex Cooper's has. OK, formed opinions about Alex Cooper being. Someone that wants to be there to tell your story after you're so vulnerable and raw. And people don't like her interview style or the way that she handles her guests. And I think people praise Alex Earl because she is kind to all of her fans and is different. And I'm just kind of taking a stand to like the matriarch of. Female power. Yeah. What happened to the person that was on the podcast with Alex Cooper when it started? What is she? Has she joined the chat as they say? For bringing that up. So, yeah, no, she has not entered the chat that I know of. Someone correct me about the truth. So, yeah, right. Is that true? Correct. Yeah. Tana Tana Mojo. Is she a part of this? There is a Tana manga now, whatever. I know who you're talking about, but it's not involved with Alex Cooper. No, Sophia, but that also just shows you, right? Like they had a massive. They had a massive falling out. Right. Alex Cooper, like kind of was like, hey, I'm sorry that happened to you, but I'm going to continue this. That is to her BFF that she started all of this with. She just burned her to the ground and was like, sorry, dude, I'm going to keep doing this. Like totally didn't link arms with her best friend on it. And and and left her in the dust. That sucks. That sucks. And Sophia is releasing a tell all book about everything. And it's a picture of like her and Sophia. No, the tear. It's in half. Oh, yeah. Iconic you haven't made it in Hollywood till you've got a tear down your photo with someone. Yeah. Wow. OK. Released. So I just want to release it early. Release it now. I don't care about any of this. And I feel like I do want you to care because this is a big story right now. It really, really is. And it's so interesting. I'm supposed to just care that a bunch of girls are mean to each other. I know. I can't. I can't do it. That's fair. It's like it from a bird's eye view here. All I'm seeing is like successful people, beautiful, rich, successful people. In nasty. And I don't see it that way. I see it as Alpha girl putting down Beta girl. Like, does that make sense? I so Cooper is the alpha and she's trying to contain contain Earl and be and and shove her a new one. And I just watched her get ready for Coachella and I was like, good accessorizing. She just kept throwing things on and throwing things on. And I kept thinking, well, that's working. That's working. That's working. I don't know. I was like, oh, Alex, Earl, I support you. I love you. Keep making out with Tom Brady. I am here for you. If you ever need a shoulder to cry on. I think I like the Giggly Squad girls. Love Giggly Squad girls. I think I like those girls. Yeah, they're fun. They're really fun. I'm into them. But you know, girls, girls, this this Cooper Earl feed. Feud just feels very mean girl. I yeah, but it is rather interesting to to. I want to talk about it because I know people care, but yet don't care. All right. Well, let's move on. What I care about is definitely talking about menopause today. But I won't do that right now. Did you follow the space thing landing? Yes, I did. I I'm not going to lie. I I I don't cry at like. Beautiful stories. Like I'm not like a like that. Like I cry at like anything. And in this was so touching when they landed. Like what part did you love? Every single part from the moon. The wife that was pretty, pretty. After all the videos about how joy, like going to space, make some realize what's important and and how to find joy and like all that kind of stuff, too. When they were actually rescued and not rescued, but, you know, recover, is that the word from that bobbing thing in the ocean? Yeah, you know, like extracted or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You think we have a better system there? I agree with that. We sent these people to the moon. But yet we're bobbing them on balloons with like an escape door. Like it's Apollo 13. I was like, I've seen this movie with Tom Hanks. Like this is the exact same thing a hundred years later. Not really a hundred, but like 50. And then I did think it was kind of bad ass that the helicopters came and got them. But like. Bringing them up one at a time. Like what's what you don't think you know, it's a soup sufficient to me, but whatever. What do I know about when they were extracting them? I was like, who picks like who gets to go first? And also I do not want to be the last one because I don't know. That's I thought some other people had jumped down to join. I don't know. They did. But that's stressful to me. I just don't know how about when you're one of those miners stuck, those miners that get stuck, stuck, stuck. And they have to figure out a way to get the last guy out. You're like, what if this goes wrong? Right. You're the last guy going up that little tube, the size of a straw, the minor ones and the soccer team. Remember the soccer team? Yes. First of all, that ship Artemis, very small, very, very small. Why so small? Because I mean, it can't be massive. It's going. I guess. Freaky like Earth's atmosphere. Well, they didn't even land on the moon. They just went up to take some photos like what's happening around the hotel. They went around on the dark side of the moon. I know, I know. I love the dark side of the moon. I remember they got all the movies like we're going to lose comms and we're going to go swinging around. I'm like, all right, Jackie, I feel like you're a nerd about this. Like, tell me, tell me about it. Oh, Jackie, I want to see it land. You guys, I went to go to the coast since that cliffs here, because I live in San Diego. So I was like, oh, they're going to land. Maybe I can see them and maybe I can see the balloons. Do you see anything? No, we're walking. We're driving to you. It went out there. Yes, it's only like 20 minutes. Could you see anything in the sky? No. No. Do you guys see like the the videos of people on planes being like, look at the rocket. Like that's so I haven't seen that. I was so jealous. That's pretty. But like I was nerdy now, all this. I love moonjoy. You know, that little like yes, hugging picture of the moonjoy. Wait, what's moonjoy? Where they're all hugging in the ship in the ship. Yeah, at zero gravity. Yeah. And I knew exactly where we wanted to park and all that. And we were at sunset cliffs, beautiful cliff side, amazing place in San Diego. OK, near Point Loma. And I see crowds coming. I'm like, OK, other people too saw nothing. Yes. Yes, you're all gathered together to see nothing. We're all streaming on our phones, watching YouTube. And I can hear other people streaming. And then people are getting their like little ice chests and everything out and people are excited. And then it's like five or six. OK, one minute. I love America in these moments. OK, so you got one minute countdown. And then I'm like, and then everybody's stream is a little different. You know, sure. Carriers. And then I'm like, it happened. What happened? Nothing. Nothing. And because it was cloudy. And I was like, dang it. And then the next day. I'm sorry. Like today is a gorgeous day. Yeah. Yeah. And so I didn't see it, but I did see in the distance because it was about 50 miles off the coast, but I did see some ships out there in the distance. And I was like, oh, maybe it's going to be over there and pointing to one. No, maybe it's going to be over there. But everybody kind of had their phones out and people clapped. But and I even they clapped for the YouTube on their phones. Got it. Yeah. And we recorded the moment and Eddie, my partner has a time. I'm like, did you guys see anything? You know, you made a nice effort at it. But OK. And how cool. It must be like so cool. I wanted to do it. Yeah. Once in a lifetime. I mean, they say they're going to go. I can't imagine I was not meant to be an astronaut. No. Oh, no. If I'm going to go to an elevator. You would, Jackie. You really would. I I suck at math and science. I love the concept of it, but space scares me. It actually does terrify me. And so I'm OK here in the bubble. We're not in the bubble. Everyone thinks we're you know, we're on the edge. We're not on it. There's a bubble. Whatever, we're within a sphere of some sort. We're not here. I'm here. I'm happy. I'm happy. In our is we're not in a sphere. We're on the outside of the ball. You know that. We're not in a sphere. I don't understand what you're saying right now. There's no. We're not in a paradise globe. I think you like gravity. I like gravity, gravity. Jackie, what were you going to say? Oh, the MRSA came in on the next day. And so I was like following a reporter that was like right there next to it. The MRSA, the ship, the John. Oh, I knew that. So they have that got out. Yeah. What a spaceship. No, no, no, the USS. A sea ship. Got it. Yes. And it brought back the Artemis. Oh, the thingy got it. You saw that? No, I want to. So if there's anybody out there. Jackie saw nothing. I don't. I want people to listen if they want to, but every story is a flop. A rude day. It was a total wampwamp. It was a total wampwamp. And I thought, you know, I enjoyed being part of it. And it's like at least we went out there and tried. But yeah, I just enjoyed the YouTube videos afterwards. Can I say one more thing that was a flop? Oh, another flop. Listen, if you want to, guys, this is our third flop of the day. Maybe a third flop of the day, but it may be a hot take. And people may not think. Make it hot then. Make it hot. Because so far, I thought the Laguna Beach reunion was a big flop. Oh, I could have told you. I did. In fact, I did tell you, check the tape. I think two episodes ago or maybe last week, I don't remember. I said this is going to be great promo, great hype, but the actual thing is going to be a turd. I fell asleep three times. And this is coming from Laguna Beach Queen. I told you this. I love I will say the first 20 minutes. Oh, I was great. It's going to be the best thing ever. I might cry. I they're playing clips from the show. I I was watching with my husband because he was a big Laguna Beach person, too. And in the beginning, we both were like, oh, my God, I remember watching that scene. I remember what my room looked like in high school. I remember like it's it was making nostalgic of all those things again. And then like 30, 45 and then I woke up looked to my left and my husband was like, we're both for just out, out. Was I the only one? Jackie, you watched it? I liked it. It brought me back. What did you like? I think it was more the memories and the nostalgia of it rather than like looking back, I guess I just liked watching them on screen again because it brought me memories of wanting to move to Southern California from my small town because I watched this show. This is one of the reasons the O.C. and Laguna Beach. I was like, I want to move to Orange County. So I finally figured out everything I needed to know in the first three minutes of this thing because I was like, why are these guys promoting this so much? Were they paid one million dollars? Like, why are they just promoting, promoting, promoting? Why is Lauren Conrad, who doesn't really like to do stuff, totally doing this, doing Kristen's podcast, doing the Today Show, whatever it was. And then clicky click on my Roku Coles ads. Coles ads were every single thing. And if you paused it, Coles. So, ah, Leipa went on and I'm like, oh, they're promoting her Lauren Conrad, Coles thing. Can we address that? Like Coles was like Dollar Tree where every store was shut down. Like, how are they sponsoring this entire store? Oh, how Coles has so much money. Yes, I think they sponsor it. First of all, Coles has money because, you know, that that famous actress does their commercials, too. I can't think of her name right now, but she's from Kimmy. Kimmy, the legend of Kimmy Schmidt. Come on, come on. Help a menopause lady out. Ellie Kemper. Thank you. Ellie Kemper. So Coles has some dough. They put some money into the advertising. And I bet you people shop at Coles. It's like TJ Maxx, HomeGoods. Those places are thriving right now. And I bet you they were like, hey, Lauren Conrad, we'll keep our partnership going if you, you know, do this thing and we're going to sponsor it. It's a whole collab. Every ad is Coles. Coles, Coles, Coles, Coles, Coles. Well, there was all this come all this talking about why Jason Waller wasn't part of it. That was because Elsie said that he can't be on it. No drama there. I don't believe that. And then, you know, I was talking to Jackie about it. And Jackie was saying, well, they only focus on season one. And he's in part of season one. Like, how are they going to do this for season two and three? They're not going to. They're no way. They're never doing it again. It's done. And I in low was on via video or something. Right. When out this year, thank you for saying that. This was filmed forever ago because right off the bat, Steven was like, oh, yeah, I just go married to go back from my honeymoon. And I'm like, he's already pregnant, way pregnant. Right. Why are they filming so long ago and wait so long? They filmed this early fall. So maybe it had to do with Coles. And I've now said Coles 5,000 times, which is exactly why Coles sponsored this thing. And Lauren Conrad was on board. So net net, what, what, like, do you give it one out of 10? What do you give it? Overall, it should have been 30 minutes. And it would have been good. Two hours, two hour and 40. And like it was really rough. And I think the one part that was rough, not that I expected drama, but they were like, that one time you called me a slut on TV. Was, you know, how do you feel about that? And Steven was like, oh, it's the worst thing that I ever said. And then Christian was like, thank you, Steven. And then they moved on. It was just like very like, I just like the part where someone said, you threw a shoe at me and the other person's like, I don't have any memory of that. Yes. I'm like, that was it the whole time. And I'm like, I don't want to be I told you so, but I told you all. I told you, pull the tape two weeks ago. I'm like, this is going to be all hype. No, I know. No juice to the squeeze, whatever the saying is. Make me download Roku. So good job, Roku. First of all, Roku, this is unpaid. Is iconic. I've told you guys also, if you are not great with tech, Roku is the answer. It is so easy to use. It is so friendly to an idiot like me. Can we talk about menopause yet? Oh, my God. One more thing on Laguna Beach. Oh, good. The hosts, such an odd case. Wilson, I know that was nice. But like for this such a weird choice. Thank you. Very. Very sort of a famous, though, for being a host. But not for this genre. And like this era. Who would you like? Carson Daley. I was going to say. Two thousands. Give me somebody from that time period. Yeah. Carson would have been better. I thought about this. Thank you, Hannah, for bringing that up because I didn't want to talk about that. I was like, who is this chick? She's a bit too current. She's got a good podcast. I'm sure she does. But she wasn't. Nothing to do with. With. Yeah. Ryan Cabrera. Give me somebody else. Get someone from Southern California or like from Laguna Beach. You know, like Carson was a good call. Yeah. Yeah. I really wanted Carson. Yeah. That would have been good. Well, hmm. So what did you guys rate it? I forgot. I didn't even want to read it because I love this franchise so much and it was a big. Oh, it will pain you. It hurt me. It hurt me hard. So anyone having. In menopause. Let me explain to you what happens and see if anyone has a solve. Like right now, for example, I'm doing pretty good, but like I'm not relaxed in any way. I'm always like, is a bear chasing me? Is a bear chasing me? My nervous system doesn't work. Is anyone have like a solve some sort of thing you do? Menopause thing. It is. Daniel, it is. What do I blame it on? Oh, you have it too? Yes. Oh, no. So you never feel like you don't feel calm. And not today. Does anyone in this group feel calm? Oh, good. No. No. Got it. So nobody feels calm. But do you physically not feel calm or just in your brain? Oh, no, I'm not calm. Because my whole body doesn't feel calm. It's like my neck, my shoulders, my whole body is like. All right, well, fine. So we're all OK, fine. So I guess that's that. I think the only way you can fix is tons of massages. I agree. So let's talk about Coachella, because I will tell you the text I received, I will read it to you. Let me read you the text I received. Hey, do you have Coachella tickets? It's not for me. It's for someone at the office. I told her I would ask you and I wrote, no. Then this person said, I would hate to go to that. I don't think it's possible. Why do people want to go to that? I said, I would hate it more than you would hate it. Explain to me because Danielle is going. Now, I liked real couple of TikToks I loved. Regular people at Coachella. That was great. And the retirement community applauding the people. That was funny. That was really funny. That I was like, I want to sit in that lawn chair with those retirees applauding the outfits as people walked by. That is my Coachella. Well, one thing I will say. The person that's saying that text is in our industry. And I feel like working where we work, we are very jaded to music, anything. So I'm just going to say that. Fine. Two. I'm shocked I'm going. Yeah, I've gone. I was praying for my life when I went. I thought it was the end. I was like, I don't think I can do this. And that was like 15 years ago. So I was younger then and I still was like, am I going to survive this? Right. And and and look, I think when I was when I was in college, I camped. I know fully camped. Car camped like these people. Did you set up that tent to take a shower? Let me tell you what we did to take a shower. We put on bathing suits and my girlfriend had a, you know, one of those garden things that you like put water in and you do this. And then that was your shower. And you spray with the hummus. That was your shower. That was our shower. And we just did that every morning. Did you just come home filthy? Like you were just filthy, filthy, filthy. You literally just blow brown boogers for like two weeks. Oh my God, I know I had dirt come out of my ears. Now, I'm not one to talk because we got some lice up in here right now. Have you guys got my text? Do you have it? I don't think I have it. So did you get checked yet? No, the lice lady is coming at six o'clock. So someone in my family has lice. I don't live with that person, but I'm around that person. And the whole class has lice. Like it was only a matter of time. Like the entire class has lice. I have a photo of the lice. Did you get my photo of it? I saw it. So I'm not one to judge like care camping or, you know, showering out of a bucket. You will all experience lice, I believe. Anyone with grade school children. I never have in my entire life. Like I've never had. Going through elementary school. Does does your niece's sisters have it? Nope. So parents. So far, no. But the class, I guess, notes have come. Oh, yeah, I think I might not have it. Emails have come every day. Lice is lice, lice, lice, lice, lice, lice, lice, lice. So anyway, do they shut down school for like a week? For no, no, no. It's just because you can get like the late the lice lady. I've had my hair checked before because if you I'm telling you, if you have kids in any way, this is not my first rodeo with the lice. They come to check your hair, then you don't worry. And you can go back to school right away. But then you're going to catch it again if you're the kid because some kids got lice. So anyway, I don't know why lice is gross. Everyone wants to gag, but it's it's fine. It's like everyone. It's just everywhere. Oh, sounds awful. Just spiders roaming your head. Oh, my nightmare. That's disgusting. Just throw everything out at that point. Just burn it. You didn't even burn the house. Let me tell you guys. Lice is a cakewalk compared to bed bugs. I've never had bed bugs, but I researched it once because I was terrified of them. Now, that's when you have to burn the house down. You just have to give up. Yeah, because they get in the carpet and stuff, right? Like they don't. Yeah, lice can't live except on the human head or whatever. But bed bugs can live for like a long time and they don't have to be on a human host. I'm sorry. Are we just getting people to like give up on us? Listen, if you want to. This is this is our last episode. No, it's not because this is what people actually think about people think about this stuff. Do you want to know what my biggest fear in life? Of course I do in life. Nice. No, I like mice. I love rodents. You love rodents. I think I think they're adorable. If I see a possum, I'm like, you cute little baby. OK, what is your biggest fear? Cockroaches. Oh, no, that's not a problem. I had an apartment in when I first moved to L.A. My apartment had when you turn the water on, it came out brown. No. So you had to let it run. I'm going to have to leave. I'm having an external. So many cockroaches. It had so many cockroaches. Like I saw a cockroach a day. I'm getting hot. I know that if you see one, there's like a hundred. That's that's the saying. Oh, no, that didn't bother me at all. That was fine. Oh, my God. No, it's fine. It is my biggest fear in life. There's something about cockroaches that why they're not like even slimy. I'm actually fully sweating right now. I can't even talk because I had cockroaches. I can't even talk. It's not my fault. I kept a clean place there in the walls. It's on my phone and the water came out brown. That disturbed me more. Oh, my God, my neck, my neck hurts so bad. OK, there's so many more things I want to talk about, including the testaments. OK, you're the only person in my circle that I've heard. I am about this. A hundred percent, not the only person who watched the boy band. Joey Fatou, you see, give me a homework assignment to watch the boy band. Confidential docu series. So this is like a boy band thing that Joey Fatou from Insync is producing. Look, I watched it. It's a tale as old as time. Yeah, we're seeing this. We've seen this. It's just watching it all over again. The only thing I would say was different in this one. And I am really upset that I'm not recalling the name. Give it to me. Describe it. We'll get it. Like it's a boy band, three boys, recent, LFO. No, no, no, no, one direction. They're like three of them. In my mind. Yes, forever in my mind. OK. They talked about this boy and this was more of a recent one. This boy bands story and how one of them was essentially just. Molested, repeated. Oh, no, I had the band manager. Oh, that happened to all these guys, like not all these guys, but like, I think it's a correct. You know, with Proman with, I mean, they all stole the money, right? Was he crazy? And he also was like, oh, man. Go down on me if you know what. Yeah, like is disgusting and gross and and look, I always love. Is this in the documentary? Yeah, this is not a happy story. No, I always love a good. Dark, but I just I feel like Lance did it. He did it very, very well. He actually did appear in this one, too. I just didn't really know what was different than Lance's other than this. It's dark forever in my mind. Yeah, of course they're dark. I mean, because it's talking about like the gnarly, the gnarliness of it all. Not to go back to Coachella, but everyone was talking about Justin Bieber. You either hated or loved it. I loved it from what I saw. I can't wait to watch it this weekend. But I was seeing a lot of things on my Instagram pop populate about reels of how Justin was treated as a kid. And it reminded me a lot of Britney Spears, where they did flashbacks to certain interviews with her where she was just treated so awfully. And they were doing that with Justin Bieber. Is that in the doc also? Are you just seeing it? No, no, no, this is just me relating to this doc and seeing all this Justin Bieber stuff on Instagram of like past interviews and past things that were women were inappropriate, women host were inappropriate to him and men as well. And I just was like, and he's visibly uncomfortable and saying, I'm uncomfortable. And it's like, oh, my God, like. These people. Yeah, it's dramatic. Well, it's still just everywhere. Awkward pivot alert. Are you like as obsessed with Matthew Morrison on social media as I am? I am not. But tell me what is he. I'm not. You can't say he's crossed my algorithm. And I bring it up because he was in a boy band. He did this like, I don't even if you know, you know, this is like one of those things if you know, you know, and now I know he's on Broadway. So maybe it was all to like get this gig on Broadway. But he was doing these solo performances and like a like a Vibe club type thing. OK. You were like, they were so unhinged and I like Matthew Morrison. I'm like, I'm fine with Matthew Morrison, despite even like his like, you know, weird stuff that people I think he got fired from something. Some so you think he can dance or something, whatever. I don't. Speaking of creepiness, I don't know. This is so hard to talk about. Awkward pivot for sure. Awkward pivot. Oh, my God, there's so I can't get enough of it. Does any of you, none of you watched it? Oh, my gosh. I thought it was AI. I did see it. Oh, with him sort of doing the doing the swim and doing the Gordon, my opinion, and I kept seeing it. So I was like, this is very realistic. I wonder. No, it's real. I wonder if you got it because you live in New York and it was like all happening in New York. Just everybody homework assignment. Just watch it. And I like him and he's talented, right? So he's singing and dancing. And it's like it's good. He's a good singer. He's a good dancer, but it's just nutty. And he would like go and talk and talk and talk and like, I don't know. Maybe it was to get the gig he got on Broadway because he got it. But I was just like, what's happening here? What's happening? What's happening? I got a text the other day and I want to grill you. So just to set up the text every Tuesday. Yeah, every Tuesday when my son goes to school, they're supposed to wear a certain color because they're learning their colors. Right. Oh, OK. Red, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple. Exactly. So on Monday night, I texted my girlfriend whose son goes to the same school and I said, hey, did they send out an email? What color? What color is he supposed to wear tomorrow? And she goes, they sent out an email, TLDR, yellow. And I go, TLDR, I've read this a million times. What the hell does TLDR mean? Do you know what it means? Talk later. No, I don't. Let me keep guessing, though. Talk, I guess toddler. No, that's like lol that everyone thought lol was. No, there was something like one of those that everybody got wrong. Love you so much or something. But I don't remember. So this is like a cool phrase. TLDR. And you're going to love it. You are going to love it. OK, don't make people suffer. What is it? Too long. Don't read. Give the answer. So she was saying they sent an email, TLDR, too long. Don't read the answers yellow. So it's saying she's giving the cliff notes of what it is. I understand. So she's saying to you, it was too long. Don't read it yellow. Here's yellow. And so I'll never use that. You but you always say your emails too long. I didn't read it because I just do it. The R. I mean, somebody can summarize it for me, but you are supposed to write. Then I'll just write back to people that send me long emails. TLDR. But that I'm like, this is this is Amy Sugarman's phrase. TLDR, because you always tell people too long. Don't stop with the long things. Oh, it's just crazy. They they send me like novels and I'm like, yeah, I'm going to read this so you know, just send me a photo. My homework assignment to you is to use TLDR. What was the one that everybody thought was one thing and it was another? Was it Loll? No. That's laughing at love. Yes, people thought Loll was lots of love. Loll. Isn't it laugh out loud? It's laugh out loud. Yeah, I love Loll. I use that one and I like to say it as Loll. Loll. Not LL. Is it time for my spoilers? Wait, did you watch the miniature wife? No, I did not watch the miniature wife, but I wanted to call the miniature wife. Yeah, the miniature wife. It's on the show who shrunk the kids, basically. It's Elizabeth Banks, which is like incredible. Kind of random. I have seen this everywhere and it looks damn awful. And my goal is this movie can do so much promo when it looks atrocious. I know somebody has to watch it to say if it's bad. Somebody has to. Somebody by next week has to. Now, does anybody want to see the photo of the lice I took that? Because we can post that. Yeah, we should post like trigger warning. But people should see it. That's exciting. So who's going to watch the miniature wife? I don't want to. That's all I'm going to say. It looks bad. Anybody agree? Somebody has to take the job. Who's going to do it? Hannah, it sounds like Hannah's taking it. Maybe I won't be here next week, but it does have a good cast, but I feel like I could give it a shot. I could give it I could give it an episode. Well, could you? Yeah. But it's a movie. You've got to report back. No, it's a series. It's a series. It is. I thought it was a movie. It's honey, I'm sure the kids. I mean, that's the thing. I'm like, what? This is honey. I shrunk the kids. But I just also love the lead guy in it just be to. All right. So session. So somebody needs to watch it in news that only people over the age of 50 will care about. How about Lorenzo Lamas dating Heather LaClaire? Like I'm into that. Do you guys know either of those people? I know. It's a good one. LaClaire, of course, but Lorenzo Lamas. Does Emma know? Oh, by the way, Emma, I'm so sorry. But I told a lot of people that you did not know the end of Love Story JFK. And that was I had to tell a lot of people that. Do you know who Heather LaClaire is? Of course. No, she doesn't. She doesn't know if you see a picture. Just do a little Google Rooney and you'll find out. Do you know Melrose Place, Dynasty, TJ Hooker? No, she doesn't know. And do you know Lorenzo Lamas? I don't know. Oh, you don't know. OK, I don't know. Do you know Shane Lamas that was on The Bachelor? Does that ring a bell at all? So Lorenzo Lamas renegade. He was like on a show called Renegade. But the way people really know Lorenzo Lamas, did has everyone seen Greece? Yes. You know, when she breaks up with Danny for a bit and she dates the cutie football player and they go to the soda shop together and he's like, darling. And I think he kind of smiles at her at the when she's cheering. OK, that's Lorenzo Lamas. The pond. That's Lorenzo Lamas. What? Yeah, thank you. Thank you. That is a big reveal because I love Greece. It's my favorite musical. I had no idea. Yeah, blonde because they dyed his hair. Or he maybe was just more blonde then. But like he went he was sort of a hunk. Like he's a little older than my time. Like I'm a little bit more Brad Pitt and Lorenzo Lamas is kind of, you know, more Eric Estrada sort of era. Yeah. But yeah. And so the two of them, that is a that is a like Gen X couple we've been wanting. They're just tail end Gen X. I think they might be like. Old Gen X. And it's like, yeah, I'm I'm into it. I'm into it. So congrats to you. Congrats, guys. I'm happy you're happy. Lorenzo Lamas. Oh, oh, my God. Speaking of people that I didn't know. Who is that? Hunk, Hunk of a dream boat, golfer. We have to post his photo. Oh, my God. Lead to this. He's been around for a while. He is a very beautiful man. I yes, but he's been around for a very long time. Gosh, can I can I see a photo of him? Can someone bring up a photo of him? Yeah, I got it. So he's young. He's 32. Oh, my gosh. Did he play in the Masters? Yeah, I'm playing in the Masters. Oh, OK. Cute. Cute. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. But whoa. Cute. Oh, yeah. Cute. More golfery in these photos than I expected. But cute. Cute. Brian DeShambo. Is that his name? Yeah. Did anybody did anybody get a Bryson, not Brian, pardon me, Bryson DeShambo. Got it. Did anybody get suckered into having to watch the Masters? Nope. How did that go for you? I got suckered into it. Rory McElroy. Is that his name? Who won? Yeah. Is it time for my spoilers? Yeah. Let's get ready for my spoilers. Do we have any hot songs? The one I found was AI. I learned that we can play. We could see everybody wants to. Yeah, play a little of it just to see. It's just like AI song. So OK, we have one. It totally I totally loved it. And then to find out it's not even a real song. Oh, give give a couple songs that let's do some songs before we go. All right. This is Tempur City. Who picked this? Emma did last week and it's called Self Aware. Oh, OK. And this was approved within this like a couple days ago. Got it. Got it. Got it. I'll give we'll give our judgments. I know you think it always. Way too self aware. Hopefully we could never be together. But it's nice to play with. 10. I wish that I could not. But I'm way too self. That sounds like something you get the young people would like. I liked it. It felt Lenny Kravitz meets. Sort of a band like a band, some sort of a band. I'll start the people. Yeah, good one. I'm going to give that as good seven and a half. I don't give it a solid eight. Eight point two. I did a lot. I had Miss Meanie pants. Miss Meanie pants over there is giving a high marks. I liked it. I liked it. I liked it. I did watch Foster People, the Coachella set. That was good. Oh, so you sat there on YouTube and watched it. I can't. Everyone does that in the background. Coachella, baby. That's something I would never do. Never. OK, this is the A.I. I know Brody Jenner was watching it. I did see that that Brody Jenner was like, that's like a thing. People would just watch it at home, stream it. Brody Jenner's a cutie, too. Yeah. All right, Jackie, give it to us. Give us our A.I. song. Oh, this was good. First time in San Juan, Miki Ho. Puerto Rico. Can we stop this? So good. I love this. Is it jam? This is so sugar-man. It's so good. It's all in my TikTok. So good. I feel like we're on the Coco Cabana. It's not loud enough, Jackie. How do you make it louder? I'm fried. I don't know. It's so good. Oh, my god. It's like only on this guy's video. I love it. It's yellow score. They're so in people. They're dancing to it. They're so in people on my dance. TikTok, dancing to it. Just do that beginning part one more time. The beginning part is... Just one more time. No, please. It's so good. Just one more time. Why do you guys hate it? It's so catchy. Capital of Puerto Rico. Oh, my god. Love it. It's so good. It's so good. The whole plane clapped when we landed. Didn't want to do just the tourist stuff. For the two of you that have stayed this long. Yeah, for the two people still listening if they want to. They might be still here. It doesn't matter. This episode, we're getting worse each week. No, it's fine. So that's just like a computer. That's not even real person. AI. Well, it's not real person. It's not real person. It's not real person. It's not real person. It's not real person. AI. No, the person's real. He just grabbed the song off of AI. Like a... Got that. Right, right, right. Okay, let's talk about the quickly the testaments. It is so good. It is so good. It is so good. This is why I look like this. Because I stayed up until two in the morning. Spoiler f-ing spoiler alert. Episode one, the character of Daisy. It's like she's in Gilead. She's back in Canada. You're getting sort of flash forwards, flash backwards. I did not get any spoilers in advance. So I'm watching it, watching it. And Daisy walks into her parents thrift store. And I see the back of a woman at the counter. And I say to myself, June, June, I know it's June. And let me tell you. It was such an iconic reveal. First of all, the show is awesome. It's really, really good. And if you like the Handmaid's Tale, which I just was obsessed with the Handmaid's Tale. And I was so sad when it was over. So now I get more. So this is related to it. It's the next chapter. It's the next series. So it's the book after Handmaid's Tale. I see. And I knew Elizabeth Moss was a producer on it, but she kind of was coy. Was she going to be a producer? I mean, I'm not sure. I mean, I'm not sure. I mean, I'm not sure. I mean, I'm not sure. I mean, I'm not sure. But that was coy. Was she going to be in it? And I've been listening to the book on audio book or whatever it's called Audible. And June's not in the book that I've the part I've heard. So I was not expecting an episode one. That's exciting. It was thrilling. Tha-rilling. And then episode three, she's back again. I the internet told me that Sam Jagger, Jagger Mark Tuello is also in it. But I can't figure out like they said, maybe his voice, but it is Stephen Colbert's voice. Stephen Colbert is like the Oprah Oprah was the voice in Handmaid's Tale. Now it's Stephen Colbert. It's so good, you guys. I have a question. Ready. Can you pick this up without seeing the ending? Thank you. Thank you. I have that same exact question because I haven't watched. Since like season, like I'm I'm beside one. Why? Why would you want to do that? Just finish Handmaid's Tale? I think you could. I actually think you could. But I think you're going to enjoy it more if you don't. That's what I'm going to say. Finish Handmaid's Tale. Do yourself a favor. It's so good. So good. So far for me, Testaments is a 10 out of 10. 10 out of 10. There's there's like a it's just 10 out of 10. And we'll talk more about it as I get. I'm only on finished Episode 3 and I think Episode 4 exists. And I'm behind on Friends and Neighbors, but I'll get to that too. Oh, I'm up to date on that one. So much to do. The only reason I have stopped Handmaid's Tale because it gets so dark and I'm just and I'm like, thank you. Danielle, thank you. You described as scary and I'm like, I kind of think it's scary too. So that's as dark as that boy band thing you guys were talking about. No. That was a lot. Yes. Equally dark. Oh, I mean, just different. They're different, like. Give it a go. It's so it's a 10 out of 10. 10 out of 10. I'm down to give it a go. And I think also because of the boy band stuff, I know that stuff happened. People wanted to know why do we play games on this show? And the reason we play games and we forgot to explain that is that we love games. I don't know where my cards are. It came out of nowhere. I was like, what is happening? I don't know. People want to know why do we why were we playing pyramid? They don't know they didn't understand. No, they we play games. We played pyramid last week and a lot of people won a lot of people. All the people won said, why do you play games? And I'm like, is there a lot of games and we want you to play along with us? Do we have any games before we go? I'd love to end on a game. No, we don't have a game. We should have a game. Should we just need a game? I don't have my cards. I don't have my cards. Yeah, somebody just do round of pyramid. Oh, I have sales a century under my desk. What's that? Grab it. Oh my God, the greatest game of all time. Hold on. Are you a sale of the century? OK, so this was a game that was around in the 80s or 90s. Somebody look it up. Oh, my God, first of all, and we got it on eBay. Remember, I said, just make sure it's brand new. Now, somebody easily could have shrink wrapped this again. And there's probably bed bugs in here, but I'm going to hope not. The reason this was the best game ever is it came. And I won't do all this right now for you guys. It does look new. It looks new. Oh, oh, my God. It came and this isn't going to have. Batteries in it. Oh. The buzzer. Here it is. OK. It came with a buzzer. Oh, my God, I can't do a pyramid if you want me to. OK, that's fine. But I just want to tell you guys really quickly about sales century and then we'll play it more later. So it came with this buzzer and everybody gets one of these. So you can buzz in. That's cool. When we play it in person. OK. And then it has questions. Let me just give you an example of one question. Oh, my God, by the way, my eyesight is so much worse now than it was back then. No one's listening anymore, by the way. We've gone on for an hour. OK, let me just give you one question. What style of books is author Zane Gray noted for? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Westerns, let me give you one more. What little fish of the herring family are pickled and served as hors d'oeuvres and a pizza topping? Sardines. No. And anchovies. Thank you, Jackie. And imagine. Imagine if we all were playing together and we had the buzzer. So I'm going to bring this next time we're all together so that we can play this. But I'm ready for pyramid. You want to give me the clues since last time I did for you. OK, this is exciting. I'm ready. I hope someone's still listening. Listen, if you want to, this is a two hour episode. OK, ready? Ready. Let me know when our timer is ready. Yeah. Oh. All I keep thinking is in Puerto Rico, in Puerto Rico. That's the capital of Puerto Rico. Love that. OK, ready? Ready? Set, OK, go. Stop signs, apples, cherries. You get a car. Things Oprah says. Toilet paper, a toilet, things in the bathroom. Flowers, a casket. Oh, things at a funeral. Mm hmm. Oh, OK. Apple cider, alcoholic drinks, things you serve at a cocktail party, things you serve at a holiday party, things you serve in the winter, things that you serve for Christmas. Um. Holy. Apple cider. Things that served at a Halloween party. No. Oh, my God. Can I skip one? You can pass. Pass. That one's hard. OK, it was things that are spiked. Paper, newspaper. Things that we write on, things that we read. Coupons, coupons, coupons. Things that we tear out of a newspaper. Things that we tear, things that we tear and take. Beep, beep. Things that are clipped. The things that are spiked. That's a hard one. First of all, dude. I was that caregiver. You started out so strong and then you pooped the bucket so hard. I did. The spiked one really threw me. Things that are spiked. A strip. A spike strip. What? Spiked. Women. Like spiked drink. I don't know. That's what they say. Apple cider. Spiked apple cider. So that's what I could do. Yeah, things that the little rascals named their dog. Isn't the little rascals dog named Spike porcupine? Oh, good one. Ah, anyway, good game, guys. Really good. So we always like to play a game anyway. Listen, if you want to listen, if you want to. We hope you do. We are here because you listened if you want to. So thank you. See you later.