Christopher Gasper Joins the Show // Tatum and Brown // ABS in MLB - 4-3 (Hour 3)

The Celtics get their 51st win of the year in an offensive explosion from start to finish. They beat Miami tonight by a file of 147 to 129. Four o'clock hour here on Felger and Mazza. Four o'clock hour means one thing and one thing only. It's Gasper time. Christopher L. Gasper that stands for the Lee of the Boston Globe joins us now in Zoomland and he's always brought you by Premier Basement Waterproofing. This week's rain proves that April showers are here so you're crazy if you're not calling our guys right now to take advantage of 0% financing and get protected and if you're moving into a new home this spring get that French strain installed before you even move in to schedule with Grace. Call 844-LivDry or visit premierbasement.net and at that point it will be what then? Game over for water. Gasper how you doing kid? Good how you guys doing? Excellent I know you have some we have some Red Sox and some football stuff on the board but I'll just start with the Celtics. That was that win over Miami the other night where they put up what was a buck 49. It was the final or something 147-129. That game tell you anything Chris? Yeah I mean that game to me is really the high point of what it can look like when you have both Tatum and Brown on top of their games and functioning you know together. You have Tatum with the triple double you obviously have the 43 point performance for Jaylen Brown both of them are out there making plays as well in terms of being playmakers to create opportunities for other guys. That that has to be scary for the rest of the NBA when you see that I think when you look at that and you say that that is the absolute high point of what the Celtics can be and that's a level that they can reach that really no other team in the east is capable of reaching because they have those two guys and so that has to be really really encouraging I think for the Celtics. We mentioned this earlier is that really a fair gauge because they were just so unconscious from beyond the line in that first quarter and 53 point I mean are our deep playoff games going to go like that? Well look I would say you have two extremes the 25 for 100 against the Knicks the first two games of the Eastern Conference semi finals that's one extreme where you're not making shots that you should be able to make and then you have to adjust so yes are they always going to hit that amount of threes they hit against Miami? No they're not but you know what is going to be there? Jaylen Brown in the mid-range hitting one-legged floaters and getting to his spots. Jason Tatum having 18 defensive rebounds the playmaking the ability to generate and read the defense and make plays for other guys that's going to be able to be there you know so while the three-point shot might not always be there to that degree the other stuff will also the defense you know look they let go of the rope a little bit defensively in that game obviously that's why it was such a high scoring game and I think they knew they could get away with that based on that 53 point first quarter but when you look at some of the defensive numbers that Tatum's putting up that the team's putting up since Tatum came back the fact that they're you know have and have been for a while number one in the league in fewest points allowed per game that is all stuff that carries over and translates to being successful in the playoffs and again you know their ceiling is just higher it's just higher than the other teams in the east in terms of what they can do because they have those two guys and then they have good role players high-end role players like white and prichard and those guys around him. Chris playing off of that a little is it possible that Tatum's absence has made the tandem of Tatum and Brown better? Yeah it's interesting because Doris Burke interviewed Tatum after that game and asked him the first question was about Jalen Brown and Jalen Brown's performance and he she asked him sort of you know what Jalen has added to the game and Tatum's response was his ability to read the game and read the defense I think he's become much better at being able to read the defense even late in that game if you guys were watching I don't know if you bailed at that point when sort of clearly the chase for 40 was on and they were leaving him in the game to get that he got blitzed and double teamed a couple of times by the heat and I was like oh I'm interested to see what he does here is he just going to chase the 40 and he knows he's double teamed or is he going to pass out of this and make the right play and he passed out and made the right play and I'm not sure that's something that he would have done before and I'm not sure that's something he would have been able to do before his improvement in diagnosing and dissecting defenses is something that's noticeable in Tatum's absence because he had to become that guy and I think it's something that helps them and increases their ceiling down the line. Chris is some of that improvement some of these guys he hasn't played with prior to you know these you mentioned this last week on our show that you know there's players that he might not be used to playing with and maybe that's been some of the jankiness that we've seen do you think that's getting better? You're talking about Tatum. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah I do think that's part of there there are guys he clearly has chemistry with like if you look at Namia's Cata that's a guy he clearly has chemistry with but I do think it was overlooked when Tatum came back not only was he trying to be able to integrate himself into a team that had already established an identity after 62 games but people forget that there were some guys who have become rotational players that he hadn't really played with before I mean Shireman was on the team last year but he didn't really play he was a rookie. Luca Garza wasn't on the team. Ugo Gonzalez wasn't on the team now it's since been brought to my attention that you know Ugo was pretty involved in some of the five on five scrimmages that Tatum did before he came back but still it's not like they had this long standing chemistry and even somebody like Peyton Prichard who you know Tatum obviously played with but Prichard had a different role he's taken on a different role this year so that's one of the things I do think went overlooked you can see not only is Tatum getting more comfortable physically but I think he's getting more comfortable with his teammates and vice versa and the interesting thing about Tatum that maybe people don't fully appreciate is is just how smart he is and how well he can read the game how easily the game comes to him mentally so that part of it I think has been there since he came back I think a lot of this is adjusting physically to his new body getting his confidence back and then adjusting to his teammates and sort of where he fits into the pecking order now with Jaylen Brown is still in my mind clearly the number one option number one score on the team on most nights do you think Detroit has a chance against them have they shown you anything since Cade Cunningham went down uh you know the the number that I point to is that when he went down March 17 they were four and a half games ahead of the Celtics a lot of people thought uh-oh Celtics could catch them now well here we are on April the third and there's still four and a half games behind the Celtics gained no ground over that time so has Detroit shown you something in Cunningham's absence do you think they can challenge the Celtics I don't think they can challenge the Celtics they have shown me something in this absence the reason I say I don't think they can challenge the Celtics is because now that's a different type of basketball in the playoffs the intensity level goes up and you're playing the same team and your weaknesses get magnified and teams are able to take away or minimize to some degree some of your strengths and I just don't know if they have enough options offensively now I think Jaylen Dern could be a major problem for the Celtics given sort of the production the Celtics have gotten from the bigs has been better than they expected but that's still pretty much a mismatch against any of their bigs and the way that he's played and stepped up since Kate Cunningham got hurt I think they're also a team that's tough tough-minded physical pretty good defensively those are some things we saw last year from Orlando with the Celtics that you know kind of left a mark even though the Celtics won that series I think some of that carried over to the Knicks series where Orlando took a little bit of a chunk out of them so those are things I like about the Pistons but when I look at it and I see Tatum playing the way he's playing right now the way Brown has played all year I look at Detroit and say where do the points come from other than Kate Cunningham and Dern to be able to match that in a seven game series I just I just don't think they have enough it's a little bit to me like some of those Brad Stevens teams you know going who were good and would be able to maximize what they had but you know Isaiah Thomas IT was the kind of the guy offensively and then all of a sudden you get into a series against like Cleveland with Kyrie and LeBron and it's like oh never mind Chris Gasper joins us for the next hour we'll take your calls he's got some thoughts on the AJ Brown latest he's got some red socks thoughts here on opening day and your calls with Chris right after the this is 2026 no more messing around it's the first day of the rest of your life today you are switching to astound shifting your wi-fi and life into a new gear reliable affordable connection so you can browse watch and play like you've always wanted because slow wi-fi is so last year under budget full speed ahead that's astound gig wi-fi for $50 a month with the three-year price lock restrictions apply see astound.com for details what would represent a successful season this year because it's gonna be tougher sledding it seems yeah we we have a pretty tough I think the hardest schedule a lot of west coast travel you know my objective every year is we make the playoffs and as we saw last year when your privilege to make the playoffs anything can happen. Robert Kraft from the owners meetings this week Chris Gasper is that answer a tell about something are they is there a tell in that response and that response for him yes well can I answer it yeah go ahead he's admitting they weren't all that good last year oh well yeah yeah Chris has been over this last season I didn't know where you were trying to lead me I'm like well there I mean I mean I know you feel this way I mean it's like yeah no I mean I think I think that there there's an admission this was the admission publicly to what I thought was you were seeing through the actions in the off season which is a normally if you have a 14-win team you're like hey we're on a roll here we want to bring a lot of people back and that's not really what they've done and I think what you heard Robert say there is hey you know we over achieved and we still essentially have to build this thing and I know you guys don't like to cross sports but that's your rule not mine so I will say this I like to compare and contrast that I like to juxtapose that to the Red Sox where I think you're the Patriots being pretty clear-eyed about what they accomplished last year and saying look okay we still have a ways to go here we got to build this thing versus say the Red Sox who I know we're playing well today thank goodness but really they looked at the good fortune they had last year and making the playoffs and it was a lot of good fortune and sort of said well we've arrived window of contention is open we figured it out you know we're all set and it's hard for me not to juxtapose those two things and those two approaches the Red Sox pretending they arrived the Patriots knowing they didn't right exactly yeah I hope that I look I have confidence and variable in that equation the ownership I'm not so sure about so what do you think the latest is on AJ Brown where do you stand on that I mean I think eventually he'll be a patriot I do and now it seems like Howie Roseman is leaning more towards this idea of they want the cap space they want the cap relief instead of taking a 23 million dollar cap hit they want seven million added to their cap and that's fine I don't know if you guys saw this story this ESPN story about the Eagles have you talked about this this week we haven't talked I read it it's great it is great yeah it is a great story and it's really and basically it sort of paints the issues that AJ Brown would have with Jalen Hertz now it hits on them specifically but it's really larger than that sort of writ large it's issues that the team has with Hertz and while Hertz is an incredibly hard worker and has had success and won a Super Bowl it pretty much sounds like he's kind of a closed-minded diva for example Felger he doesn't want to be under center which I know you love so I love a quarterback refuses to go under center he he doesn't want to turn his back to the defense he's not comfortable doing that exactly yep yeah so and that's part of it and also there's some great numbers in this story about what it's like against zone defenses and why is that pertinent it's pertinent because a lot of times when you face a zone the zone is forcing you to throw into a tight window well what's Jalen Hertz known for not turning the ball over well normally that's a good thing but when it gets kind of like and I think you've talked about this in the past with your guy Aaron Rodgers when it gets to a point where it's like selfish right where it's more about you keeping your turnover number down than it is like overall not turning the ball over for the team well then it can have an adverse effect on the team so AJ Brown if you read this story I'll just you know summarize it really quickly AJ Brown doesn't believe this guy can get him the ball end of story that that's what it is he's lost faith in this guy's ability to get him the ball which means there's no way they can bring AJ Brown back I mean how we roseman can posture all he wants on this thing but there's no way they can bring AJ Brown back on that team in my opinion just reading this story and some of the issues that were laid out so either you know they decide to take the first round pick at 31 in this upcoming draft if they like who's on the board or they want the cap space and you're waiting till after June 1 in my takeaway after reading this story I wouldn't even offer them a straight up two as the anchor pick for AJ Brown I would say it's a three that can be coming to who else do they have to bid on this guy and there's no way they can bring this guy back based on the story I have felt this way from the beginning hard to listen it's not about people I think mistake it DK Medcalf got a second so and so got a first well no no it doesn't matter what DK Medcalf got it matters what the next highest offer is correct and if there's no next highest you only have to be higher than the next guy this year that's right and so obviously no one's coming to the table at the first round pick is anyone even coming to the table with a second round pick I look again there's a possibility that but right now I'd say no and it's been perfect because of that contract it's hard to move a guy who's got big money attached to him and you know Chris the Max Crosby deal obviously happened but then the the Ravens came to their senses and backed out they said why would we give up two first round picks when we're going to give the same amount of money to Trey Hendrickson and keep the picks so it's a you know it's not totally apples to apples would you get the idea so to me this was I thought the price of a first and a third or whatever was too high from day one day one just saying if the mass was right thank you Chris if they don't come home with AJ Brown are they in trouble uh trouble's too strong a word but I think you're leaning a lot on on Drake May again to try and maximize the receiving core and I think you're also leaning on a guy like Kyle Williams taking a major step forward and you're leaning on Romeo Dobbs to be better than what he was in Green Bay you're basically saying look this guy was part of an ensemble cast in Green Bay but he's capable of more and we think he can be in this system a number one type guy which is a lower bar in the Josh McDaniels system you don't have to have the greatest physical skills to do that but and I like Romeo Dobbs I like him a lot as a player I'm glad that they signed him but I will repeat what I've said before he has no 100 yard receiving games in the regular season and he does have them in the playoffs which is great and he doesn't have a 50 yard reception that's not a deal breaker in this system but now we're back to last year where it's it's a lot of it's on Drake to be able to march the team down the field and then generate big plays with his arm you know down the field to a guy like Booty who's an excellent contested catch receiver there's no question about it but you have to make those throws and those throws have to be pinpoint throws you know what I don't see on the Patriots is where's the guy that can take a 15 yard in cut and turn it into a 55 yard gain I don't see that guy on this roster can do it consistently like Kyle Williams did it you know he did in the Tampa game but it's consistently being able to do that now you're back to kind of projecting as opposed to me AJ Brown is he comes in he's a number one receiver the other team's going to treat him like a number one and roll the coverage that way he's going to dictate the coverage and that can make it a little easier for Drake but apparently they just feel like they can get a full back and run the ball and they're just going to hammer away on everybody that seems to be the the new plan they're just going to run it 75 times a game so do you really think that's what they're going to do no but I mean you know I don't know it's just you just a little much so it's a little much for me so you think they're going too far in that direction and not a little bit not in the direction of dynamic playmakers and speed and that thing yeah a little bit I do I do I mean do they need a blocking tight end yes they need a blocking tight end and I understand why they signed Julian Hill and they'll probably draft a tight end here I get it but I'm not I'm not sure that that's really like the answer for them do they need to be able to run the ball more consistently sure yeah that helps all teams there's no question about that but I think that they need to be a little bit more dynamic and they need to make it easier for Drake you need to have some weapons some guys who can take a short pass and make it a long pass and also there's just something to me about the it's maybe it's just me it's the way they kind of talk about the it's like oh a tough guy run it it's just a little it's a little over the top if you ask me all right final peter's question you've any sense or any inkling of where it's headed with christian Gonzalez I don't have a sense or an inkling of where it's headed my my my guess and this is a guess would be that he will play out this fifth year they'll pick up this fifth year option I mean yeah they'll do that may first so they'll pick that up he'll play out this fourth year and we'll see what happens maybe they come together during training camp but if I'm looking at it the way I think the Patriots should look at it when I heard those comments from from robbercraft before about you know we hope and believe and we always try and then he starts talking about cap space and other stuff and these this was a question asked directly about Gonzalez and drake may he's not talking about drake may with we'll try there is no try with drake may drake may can fill in his number so when he says that that's about Gonzalez and and that to me reading the tea leaves hence that this could be a little bit of a bumpy negotiation and if I'm the Patriots I want to get this done before Devin Witherspoon Witherspoon and Gonzalez have the same agent the same agency and we already saw what the Seahawks did in terms of bumping up jsn so I don't know I hope this goes smoothly but reading the tea leaves from the owner's meetings it doesn't look like they didn't sound like a team that was prepared to reset the market at cornerback immediately for Christian Gonzalez gaspers thoughts on the red socks coming your way after big jimmer get you updated this is 2026 no more messing around it's the first day of the rest of your life today you are switching to astound shifting your wi-fi and life into a new gear reliable affordable connection so you can browse watch and play like you've always wanted because slow wi-fi is so last year under budget full speed ahead that's astound gig wi-fi for $50 a month with the three-year price lock restrictions apply see astound.com for details all right guys what's your temperature on the red socks at this hour as they are three outs away from a opening day victory over the Padres yeah and this is a good course correction for them but I still have some questions and I think there were some of us who had some questions about them at the beginning of the year I didn't pick them to make the playoffs we'll see what happens but one of the reasons I had some doubt was the stretch that they just unfurled before they came home for the home opener that one in five stretch I think you saw some of the weaknesses of this team and maybe some of the faulty philosophies and its construction the whole run prevention 2.0 thing that they're trying to get away with I mean they came into today tied for last in major league baseball and runs per game they're batting 171 with runners in scoring position your guy Caleb Durbin is has he gotten a hit today yes he did he got an RBI yeah he's actually an RBI yep so good for him that's nice to see going into this game he was 0 for 32 in the regular season dating back to last season and so my thought process just overall on this is do they have enough offense but also how many teams that are real championship contenders are built with the level of mix and match and interchangeability in the lineup and lack of everyday players that this one is I think it's great that Marcelo Meyer hit a home run today off a lefty because maybe it will inspire more confidence from Cora to play him every day but I think one of the issues with this team is teams that do a lot of mix and match and platoon and we're going to do this and that and this piece and that piece the teams that normally do that are doing that by necessity the Red Sox are doing that by choice and I think that's a mistake it also just quickly makes you match up vulnerable okay when you have a good player who can hit lefties and righties what does the other manager do no he's scrambling right he's scrambling but once you know and you can only change once really during the course of the game so if you have to hit in the sixth inning you come up again in the eighth now you're boned you know right like you're gonna have they're gonna know it's lefty on lefty or righty on righty so Chris is right the best teams have maybe one or two platoon spots maybe but the more names you can put in that lineup for the big games that are one through nine the same the better off you are uh Chris Gasper requested a cut from um Alex Cora would you guess who asked the question to get this answer Chris um who that's a good question uh Sean McAdam good guess good guess guess again um would would you also follically challenged yes and an old time baseball guy Shaughnessy try again he's not following he's not really fun he's got here he's got a follically challenged it's goofy looking but he's got hair he's not he's goofy all hell old time baseball i'm i'm running out of a follically challenged old time baseball a high number in the bbwa if he still has a card which i'm not sure he does he's a handsome fellow uh says says sucks a lot yeah you got it mass you were over there for this i showed up yep believe it or not then i ran out for you mass wow impressive didn't get out of town he went over very good he wanted to ask a question that he knows none of the do nothing's down there would ever ask what what was the question mass uh my question is how do you fix strikeouts and here was alex corps edited answer you are who you are as a hitter you know and uh i don't think we are this team we will put the ball in play but also you're not going to go from 28 strikeout rate to 18 percent impossible if you got that guy let me know you know if you got that hitting coach let me know i'll give him my salary and uh you know i retired it's not going to happen what's your reaction to that comment christ well my first reaction is this reminds me my early early days when i was very young and like 0506 and i'd go around uh fenway and frankona was there and like you know if someone young asked a question frankona would snap at them and then literally like mass or mcadam would come in like you know not even there for the start of the press conference and ask the same question and you know to you oh i don't know about that but that's pretty good you know he'd get into that whole thing so that that takes me back i got a little p ptsd of that but you know what that reminded me of just listening to it and great question by mass that was one of those sneaky like the roster is the roster comments from cora yes like don't blame me don't blame us like if we have a team that's built to strike out it's going to strike out and if you have someone who can make them not strike out then i'll retire i thought that was a the roster is the roster i got the roster is the roster vibes from that i read it the same way i mean again and i think that now look i also happen to think it's right so because i've said you in the past i don't know how you you fix guys who strike out a lot you know you it's situationally you can get rid of some of the strikeouts well no no if your whole organization preaches launch angle put the ball in the air don't cut down on your swing from the day you get there from the day you're drafted i'm with you it's hard to blame the manager of the major league club that the guy's trying to hit the ball out of the park all the time that's how he was brought into the red sox organization but but i'll say this too and and i'm mad as i don't know how you feel about this but this goes back to my overall point about the mix and match and and just them not realizing the degree of good fortune they had last year and the level of hubris they think and baseballs they think they can reprogram all these guys they think they can fix them and reprogram them all and engineer them like they're into player engine we can make this guy what we need him to be instead of having to go get the guy that we need in fact i wonder if there's part of that in that comment too like these idiots think you can teach him not to hit a hundred percent and they can't you can't do that yeah there's some of that in there so like i'll give you like a guy like adam done right remember him i remember him okay strikeout machine yeah but he could hit at 500 feet that's what your typical power hitter in baseball history is he's a guy usually the home runs come with a crap ton of strikeouts you get one you get the other you know it's hard if you get both you get a hall of famer you understand what you don't know otherwise you get rubbed deer well right oh i'm just gonna bring him up yeah if you right if you get a guy who can hit home runs a not strikeout you get jota majors what i meant so you know but they think and this is the mistake they're making with christian cambell they think they can teach them you know just they can change his swing and teach him how to hit it doesn't quite work that way so i you know there's definitely a conflict in there internally about how you can do it so overall you're down on this red sox team chris yeah i mean i i'm down on them i think relative to other people who feel like it's they won 89 games last year and they have nowhere to go but up i look at last year and think you know core did do an excellent managerial job but they had some good fortune in terms of guys that had outlier type performances like a rome gonzalez or an abraham toro or being able to get nathaniel low when they did off the scrap heap and what he was able to help them do to the finish line i just don't know if that stuff is repeatable and there was a great deal of excellent mixing and matching last year from kora but can you have that same level of success doing that's one of the questions that i asked not as artfully asked as maz's question in the season-ending press conference about all the mixing and matching and both brezlo and kora you know said well we know we like that and kora went back to the 2018 team which he acts like he platoon did every position even though he had the american league mvp you know and all the killer bees i just think they're maybe over rating that a little and i did just want to make this point too in terms of what you're talking about or what i brought up and maz seconded in terms of the their feeling that they can just engineer these guys one of the things with brezlo when they brought him in was supposed to be this is different from hind bloom because this guy was a i've come to this conclusion it's not all that different and really bringing in a left-handed specialty reliever and saying he's a former player would be like an nfl team taking a kicker and saying well our journal manager used to be a player it doesn't feel like he necessarily has the feel that say an everyday player would have a former everyday player and i'm not just talking about devours even what they're doing now with the rotation like rotating through guys to dh for how long did david or t's tell us like hey this isn't as easy as you guys think it is to be a good dh and not play in the field and even last year devours was sort of like it took him a little while to adjust and he did and then they asked him to move to first but he bought that and he even he was kind of giving me the idea of like hey this isn't as easy as you think it is to just dh whereas they're like yeah we're just going to run whoever the extra outfielder is through this dh spot and yoshida is going to get some at bats they're like yeah it's dh you know we can mix and match and anybody can just go in there do that and i feel like if you had someone who was an everyday player former player running baseball ops they wouldn't look at it that way instead you have the equivalent of a place kicker i mean to christis point just quickly history has shown pictures as managers garbage right garbage absolute freaking manure garbage so i don't know maybe there is some something of that to carry over to the to the you know the administrative side or the you know the um evaluation side all right final segment with gas where you want to win red sox game is final they have won opening day marcello meyer with a big day i guess sunny gray with a well yeah winning performance you got to say it i would say pretty good okay so more thoughts on today more thoughts on the team more thoughts on whatever you want with gaspers open lines at 617779085 back to you right after this this is 2026 no more messing around it's the first day of the rest of your life today you're switching to astound shifting your wi-fi and life into a new gear reliable affordable connection so you can browse watch and play like you've always wanted because slow wi-fi is so last year under budget full speed ahead that's astound wi-fi starting in 1995 per month restrictions apply see astound.com for details boston's best sports talk you can count on it and helsey drops in a slider that is called ball four i don't think adlie rutchman i think he was probably did challenge the pitcher is challenging oh the pitcher is challenging yeah he played right to his hat ryan and helsey with the first pitcher challenge the first challenge by orals pitcher and darik sheldon is incensed he didn't think helsey got that off in time well he went right to his hat came off the mound and tapped his hat last day as is yelling at darik sheldon to get back and the runner key shawl will be sent back to first and darik sheldon's been thrown out he's arguing with the robots you can't defeat the robots as from several days ago it was a great call we'll make it the supercut of the week when you're thinking about your next haircut use your head head to any of the 120 boston and providence supercuts along supercuts real smart hair they bring you the simulcast every day here on felgren masroy beam across the wingland and the country on mbc sports boston chris also wanted to once again throw his support behind the abs system in major league baseball chris go ahead the floor is yours you know i just uh i'll keep it short and sim i mean i i i love it i'm really enjoying it i find the challenges to be entertaining and not disruptive i don't think that they disrupt the flow of the game too much or i don't find them to distracting in any way going into today according to my math which is always a little dangerous but it was 3.75 challenges a game which is you know lower than it was in spring training i don't think it's a problem and honestly if there's an issue anybody has with the challenges at this point from what i've seen fine take the challenges away but also take away the umpire calling balls and strikes i would have no problem if every ball or strike was done by abs if it was all done by the robots i would be perfectly fine with that i think that would be good so i love this abs put it in my veins i'm enjoying it now i'm with them for the most i mean look i think it could be we talked about this last week chris when i do think on the margins it gets a little cheesy where it's like just minuscule but overall i'm with you because it's holding these a holes accountable on that well but you're quote unquote holding them accountable on a pitch the computer's guessing on two you know at one six of an inch there's a margin of error so you're much much smaller margin for error though than the human eye you're holding them accountable what inside of one six of an inch the computer's guessing two yeah but the computer doesn't talk back okay well that's different but you know you're the computer's consistent unlike cowboy joe west that's not true not inside of one's not not inside of one six of an inch it's not well it's not yes it is inside of one six of an inch is the margin of error meaning it can't tell whether it's on the black or not yeah it's sometimes it is sometimes it's not is that how it works or is it just sort of consistently it consistently i don't want to say inaccurate but consistent with the margin for error no you wish if it can't tell where the ball is inside of one six of an inch it doesn't know it's just guessing yeah and that's what the that's the umpires you're just guessing too this is better educated guessing okay but but maybe so chris but you do realize right that and look again i don't know what the numbers are with the machine but umpires on balls and strikes the collective i looked at something the other day yeah got balls and strikes right 93 percent of the time and i i did i looked that up too and i guarantee that the computer's higher than that okay right so but but but you still understand that that means umpires miss seven out of a hundred okay so yes in a in a game let's call it 14 pitches and say you know they were two just to make it easy okay and not all 14 of those are getting challenged and so so we're really talking about just a few pitches a game on either side yeah but the but the system you could talk about once it's this simple one six of an inch like i get it and this reminds me of something gadel said years ago roger gadel but he's like don't let perfect get in the way of better i'm not telling you abs is perfect i am telling you that it's better i'll tell you what abs is not going to do abs is not going to call a strike the strike that ended the wbc game between the us and the dominican republic it's not going to get that call wrong which a human will and so that's where this is better so yes is it perfect no it's not perfect i i understand that and honestly i think part of the problem is that they're still using both systems the human system and the computer system i think if you went to all one system again would the computer still be wrong yes as felger said within a six of an inch there still would be variants in terms of whether it's right or not but at least it would be uniform i think part of the issue now is that it's not uniform you're trying to combine two different strikes well and also yes exactly that's right and don't you think that's unfair to the umpires in other words that well there's pretty much nothing you could say that would make me think it's unfair to the umpires but go ahead other than stuff being thrown at them by fans which is unfair i'll give it a shot uh that uh their whole lives they were taught that the strike zone the top of the strike zone is the letters or used to be the armpits or above the belt well you know whatever it is now it you know what it is right chris i mean you've you've yeah the measurement right okay so i forget the interest but yeah no 53 and so in spring training they measured every guy in yep bare feet standing erect it's 53 and a half percent of your body height without shoes on standing straight erect now the guy's in a crouch in cleats and you're supposed to be able to figure out where 53 and a half percent of it is where his height is i mean i think that's a silly ask no i don't and i don't i don't think that's actually what they're asking the umpires to do well that's what the strike but that's what the abs strike zone is chris yeah and that that goes back to my original point that they're and first of all they're the idea there's two different ways of doing this i do think that that is problematic and that's why i would like to see it go all to the robot uh strike zone i just think that's a more efficient way to do it overall but in terms of like what you're complaining about you're acting like every and i know you're old enough to know this you're acting like every umpire went by the rulebook strike zone are you kidding me no all these guys have their own individual strike zone that's true there's no i mean for how many years did they try and get them to call it here's the rulebook you know call the high strike it's like well some guys call the high strike some guys don't call the high strike oh some guys call the slow show if greg maddox is on the mound then this pitch three inches off the plate is a strike but if this guy's on the mound it's not a strike these guys have been doing their own i mean it's it's been sort of like painting you know everybody has a different painting style for years now at least this is a little bit more uniform which i appreciate it's just impossible to figure out where it is well i mean i it's an imperfect task and i'd rather i'd rather watch a human i'm not looking at any paintings but i'm damn sure gonna look at a human painting versus a computer generated painting yeah you just you and marie just want to smash all the robots you you hate you hate technology you hate ai you don't want you don't want anything you know i hate the robots but i'm pro this i mean oh good that's true yeah i mean i know i know that there are some like i saw an ad the other day for i won't name the the radio um conglomerate but basically they were saying like all human all the time because a lot of these music stations now they have like the robo DJ and i think you're worried they'll just be like some felger knockoff ai oh that's gonna push you out they would never be able to program something like that chris did you hear what we're doing actually we're thinking of robo guests on fridays do we have gas burn Murray tomorrow we do 11 to 2 full show so we'll see you then chris thanks for coming by as always we appreciate it oh i i did want to mention one thing you guys before i go okay uh are you guys up on skamanda do you know what that is no i do okay i was just just a just a bet i had with someone that's all right if i spell it if i google it will it come up yeah if you google it it will definitely it's it's lighting the internet on fire it's uh is it gonna it's a bravo reality show drama skamanda oh no i don't google it okay i just did some chicks showed up all right so anyway bye chris thank you again okay bye we've hit on a ton of things today including more of the moon stuff and uh adjacent to the abs other rule changes in sports that have changed the very nature of the game you can win on those things the red socks being opening day win whatever you want it's agenda free friday so the agenda is set by 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