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This is a Head Gum Podcast. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary Didn't Watch. Hi everyone. Welcome to Too Scary Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily, and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley, and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy, and I love watching scary movies, so I watch them so that you don't have to. And I am very excited for this week's movie. I think this was, this is my most anticipated horror movie of the year, which feels sad because now it's about to be over in the year. There's other ones, there's other ones, there's other ones. There's so many, there's so much potential. There's so many, oh my God, we are really blessed this year. Honestly, like, yeah, kind of too many. It's written out, guys. Specifically in the month of May, it has been a lot. A lot in the month of May, but we're grateful, we're grateful. Is May, like the new October, is May the new horror season? It's the spring flowers come and we are terrified, horrified. Could be, could be. I guess so. Yeah, I don't really know what is going on. I mean, it's working. But I think we're moving toward a year-round horror. I think it's just the only movie that gets made anymore, which again, not complaining. Works for us. A lot of people have been very excited about this movie, so I'm really excited. Yeah. Well, if you're so excited that you just can't freaking wait and you don't want to hear a single second of us talking about something that's not this week's movie, there are time stamps in the show notes because first, I would like to know, Emily and Henley, did anything scary happen to you this week? I mean, just a little thing. Friday night, we went out to a bar and it was crowded in this bar. And, you know, we had to go. I know what it's going to be. Just stop right there. I had to. Say who's there. And I had to, you order at the front and then we had to like, went out to the patio because it was the only place there was space. So we're renewing our way through the bar and I'm, you know, I've got eyes up and I'm looking, I'm looking to make my way through the crowd. And in making my way through this crowded bar, I found myself tripping over and spilling wine onto a dog. Somebody had a big dog laying, you know, I'm looking for vertical obstacles here. You know, I'm looking, I'm trying to like make my way through. Human people. A bright human people. I didn't expect horizontal obstacles. I did not expect that. I thought everything that could be in my way would be in my eye line and it wasn't. There was a big dog on the ground, tripped just, just right over this dog and certainly spilled wine onto this dog. And the dog, he was so cute. I turned around and I was, because I was also like, what the fuck just happened. I was so confused. What just happened to me? I turned around and this dog was looking me like, why did you do that? I was like, I didn't mean to. I was like, I'm so sorry. I also feel like the owner is looking at me like, why did you do that? And I was like, why is your dog, like I like your dog. I did not. It just was really a shock. Everyone was shocked. Everybody's faces were. Everybody was shocked. What just happened? Just really, just a really shocking moment. We all moved past it, but it was a surprise. It was a big surprise. It was a surprise and it was almost a falling all the way over situation. It could have been a falling all the way over. And you caught it. You caught it at the end and I didn't fall all the way down, but. It's pretty close. I did spill wine on a dog. So a little scary. Yeah, you're right. They were kind of looking like. Why the fuck would you walk over my dog? Why did you do that to my dog? And I wouldn't have, I promised you and didn't, wouldn't have wanted to. Really wasn't trying to do that. It was as if it was like, well, this is a big dog party. Why aren't you looking for all the dogs? And I was like, well, because. You're in a dog. This is actually a crowded bar at 11pm. And I was just wasn't expecting there to be a bit. I think that's part of it too. It was 11pm. Oh, that's too late for a dog. Dog needs to be bed. Why is it a dog out? The dog needs to be asleep. It's bedtime. Your dog needs to go to bed. Home to sleep. I just don't understand. Sleeping here in the bar, which is. Well, yeah. And I think that's also why it was like, what just happened? Why did you do that to me? And I was like, I'm so sorry. Anyway, it's just a surprising turn of events. Was it like a service dog or just a dog? Just a dog. I mean, if it wasn't in uniform, so I think it was just a dog around the town. Yeah. It was a big doodle. A big doodle. Cute, really cute. But again, just it was just really surprising is what it was. For all involved. But, you know, we all, I think made it out okay. I think the dog's fine. But surprising, surprising, surprising situation. I wish I had something just as surprising and just as exciting, just as interesting. It was exciting is what it was. It was really exciting. Okay. I don't have anything. Sammy, you've got to go so that I can do something. Cause I literally, I literally can't think of anything remotely interesting to talk about. You know, sometimes that happens. You did tell us you received more happy Mother's days today than happy birthdays across your entire lifetime. So that's true. That's true. The amount of group text chains I've been on with people who I haven't talked to in years. But they know your mom and I'm included in a happy Mother's day chain. I'm sitting happy Mother's day out to everyone. I know happy Mother's day to all the mothers listening. It's no longer Mother's day, but it was an everyday is Mother's day. Of course I wish a happy Mother's day to you, but also what's going on here. It feels frantic this year. It feels like people are overcompensating. People are compensating for something. People are tripping over themselves, tripping over dogs. Happy Mother's day. I think if I were to guess, I think it's that everyone's having a really hard time. And we're like, you know, who's probably really having a hard time? Mom's. And they're not wrong. How are the moms doing? Let's talk to all of them. I would say if you were trying to solve the reason why mothers are unhappy by wishing mothers happy Mother's day once a year, you're trying to, it's like trying to fix the Titanic with a bandaid. Like that is simply not enough and it will never be enough. But what if it's 10,000 band aids? Cause everybody tells you I'm not still not enough band aids to stop that shit from breaking in half Sammy. Come on, 10,000. Yeah, we need a different tool entirely. I think is what you're getting at. Yeah. But yeah, I don't know. I guess a lot of people did wish me happy Mother's day today in a way that was just shocking and surprising and then felt like a burden. Like soon. Because also it's, um, it is not your first Mother's day. You know, it is in fact your fifth. I know. Maybe it, maybe it's just. So it's like, what's going on right now? In volume as my children become more present and available. More kids, but again, it's still not your first Mother's day with more than one kid. I will say it for, for, for what it's worth. It's just, just a little interesting now that I'm thinking about it. I have lots of friends who are moms to the point where I don't really wish people happy Mother's day. Cause I'm like, well, it's too many. I'm not gonna pick and choose. Yeah. Like the only friend that I said happy Mother's day too. So I added to the burden. You know what? There it is. Sammy, you just hit the nail on the head. It's like everyone's favorite mother. It's that I don't, it's that the second I saw people wishing other people a happy Mother's day, I said, fuck those moms. Why isn't it just me? Why isn't everyone directing their attention only at me? That's what I wanted. That's what I meant to say. Um, no, I don't know. I guess sure this is the scary thing that happened. So many happy Mother's days to me and it's almost over and ladies almost over. Hopefully no more. I'm done with it. And now don't you dare comment in the comments. Happy Mother's day. It's over. It's gonna be over. She got enough. She got enough. I told Sammy that I'm going to listen to this whole recap with my eyes closed. I'm going to have my eyes closed sitting in the chair. Mother's day gift. My mother's day gift. Just rest. Just rest. Like one of those, like I love the headspace sleepcasts. Yes. I recently re downloaded headspace and I accidentally forgot to cancel my year long subscription before the free trial ended. Of course. So, but now I have them for a year, which, you know, it's that's rocket money. Um, yeah. Um, but this will be like, this could be a sleepcast for you. Henley is what I'm saying. It's just great. Your eyes. Rainy antique shop. Reindeer antique. They've got a lot of new ones since last time I was subscribed to headspace. And so that's been fun. There's a lot of new ones. I'm curious. I did like those sleep scapes. I love those. I love them too. Dang. Is this an ad for headspace by accident? If it, I mean, I've already paid for my year subscription. So I don't know what I, I don't know what I would possibly have to gain from them telling us to do an ad. It's the only way I would want to ever do it. Um, no, I actually really do love headspace and sleepcasts and I've get nothing, I get nothing from it, but the pleasure of sharing my own joy with others. I'm sure this will be exactly like a sleep scape, right? Sammy? It's not going to be stressful. It's not going to be stressful or scary. Just let it be sounds. Yeah. Exactly. Just associate words for meaning. Okay. I can do that real quick. And you'll be all good. I've basically done that. Just being online does that to your brain automatically. It's true. It's true. Yeah. It's a skill that we're all sharpening daily, which brings us to my scary thing. Oh boy. Which we're not going to make too big of a deal out of it, but I watched the Los Angeles mayoral debate and the California gubernatorial debate. Oh my God. We don't say enough. Gubernatorial. Gubernatorial. Gubernatorial. And boy, oh boy, some real freaky stuff happening here in California. This is obviously only affects Californians and people who live in Los Angeles, but Spencer Pratt is running for mayor of Los Angeles. Yeah. Spencer Pratt of Laguna Beach. Spencer and Heidi. And the Hills Spencer and Heidi reality show. I'll be honest and say I love his hummingbird content, but the appreciation stops there. Yeah. He's like Magga, right? Yeah. He's like really like that. Yeah. And really into the idea of just fully criminalizing homelessness, which made me very sad hearing just how little empathy people have. But anyways, I guess the, I don't know how worried to be about things. I don't know if you, if all of our listeners have heard, but both races are top two go on to the general elections. And so like for the first time in a while, there's a possibility that there will be two Republican candidates for governor, not for mayor, but for California. And I'm a little worried about it. Yeah. Fair. Yeah. Because there's not a super clear, first of all, there's like one million people running and there's not a super clear front runner in the Democratic side. And I'll say that scary thing is that I'm considering voting for Tom Steyer. I will say my mind is not made up. So I'd love to hear our listeners thoughts. It is the DSA recommendation, which is another scary. Vote, which is crazy. That that feels I am. What's going on, you guys? What's going on? Why is it so bad? But maybe we can fix it by telling everybody we know happy mothers. It doesn't help. It's not helping. Well, is it worth a try? It's worth a try. But I will say two things about Tom Steyer. He is of the like main candidates. I know there are some like Democratic socialist candidates, but they just do not have much traction, which in this scenario is unfortunately like kind of a bigger deal than usual. Because obviously normally I would just want to vote for who I want to vote for. Anyways, I'm crowdsourcing help here because I'm really not sure what to do. But one thing I will also say about Tom Steyer is that he was a regular customer at the coffee shop I worked at for years. And so I've he was sweet to me literally personally. Hey, well, you know what? If we if that needs to be the thing we hold on to, maybe that needs to be the thing we hold on to. Yeah. So I don't know. I'm just I don't know what to hold on to. Generally speaking about anything in any moment for mayor. I'm voting for Nithya Raman. I know. Do we think she could win? If we all vote for her. What if we all vote for her? I mean, we got just joined hands and say we're doing this. Let's all can let's all vote for Nithya for real. I'll vote for Nithya and you guys tell me who to vote for for governor. You tell me you tell us. I told you, mayor, you tell me governor. That's how this works. And that's just fair. And we're just being fair about it. So everybody vote for Nithya, but we'll vote for whoever you tell us to vote for governor. Well, that seems fair to me. We'll do a poll. We'll do a poll on our Instagram. And yeah, that's how much we trust you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because I believe the front runner is a guy named Steve Hilton, who I watched in the debate and I don't think I've ever hated anybody more in my life and it just can't happen. That can't happen. Yeah. So we got to all figure out who we're voting for in the primary so that it's not hated anybody more in your life. There's a lot of candidates. I'm I'm yeah. I'm being dramatic there. But boy, did he rub me wrong. Yeah, he's bad. Yeah, he's I mean, he's bad. So yeah, I just feel a little scared about some of this stuff. I know. Be really bad if we had a Republican governor and Republican mayor. Oh, God, don't. Spencer Pratt's really doing the Trump thing. It's crazy how well that still is working. Yeah. I don't know. It's scary. I don't know. We just got to check in with our fellow Californians, fellow Los Angelinos. Yeah. Let's let's get the same page here, folks. OK, let's get the same. Let's figure this out because I don't want this to happen. OK, thank you for the wake up call, Sammy. That was a more important message than the Happy Mother's Day. Let's put a timestamp in the show notes for just what Sammy had to say. Well, I think my dog story was pretty good. No, I don't think so. I think let's let listeners decide what they think is good to listen. We'll just put dog story in the timestamps. Two minutes in for the dog story. That our show notes become just like like think of the times of what we think is important. It was a deeply listen to idiosyncratic personal jokes. Isn't that the whole fucking kind of the whole thing that actually is the whole thing? If you're still here, that's on you. This is your first time listening. That's also on you. That's also on you. And there's a million times stamps in the show notes. You can hear exactly what you want to listen to and when. Oh, yo, yo, yo, yo. OK, it's a time for the fun to stop and for us to listen to this. Time for the fun to stop. Time for the fun to stop. The other scary thing I did this week was I saw three horror movies this week. Wow. We're only going to be talking about one of them today. But this was a big seeing more movies in the theater week for me. Other other ones coming soon. So stay tuned for future episodes. But today we are talking about Hockham written and directed by Damien McCarthy, starring Adam Scott, Florence Ordesh, David Wilmot, Michael Patrick and Peter Kunan. It is in theaters now. And I loved it. A few huge few. Yay, I've been really stressed if you felt any differently. Yeah. And it was scary. I had high expectations because Damien McCarthy is the writer, director of Cavillat and Audity. He is an Irish filmmaker and Cavillat and Audity both scared the shit out of me in the comfort and safety of my own home on a small television. So I was really nervous to see this in the theater. I made Duncan and Jenna go with me, sit on either side of me, keep me safe. And it was super fun. I was definitely plugging my ears a lot of the time or one ear. Sometimes I do just one, make it a little quieter. Cavillat was so scary, too. I just was remembering what Cavillat was about. Me, too. I had to. Cavillat fucked me up. I had Joel try to tell. I was like, what one is that again? Because we're with another friend who he didn't want to spend. And he was like, a guy is asked to take care. And I was like, right. Oh, no, it was so scary. Oh, he's really good at these movies. He's freaky. He's really freaky. Freaky. And he, I think Audity scared me more than Hockham or Cavillat. Then Cavillat. I think Hockham is the least scary. Sorry. Well, you know what? Adam Scott. It doesn't mean it's not scary. It's Adam Scott. It's just because it's Adam Scott. And you're like, I know who you are. Because of that. And also it does feel funnier in general, which breaks the tension up. And part of that again might be because of Adam Scott. But yeah, I think the concept of Audity is just more unnerving in general. Like some guy coming to your door and telling you that there's a man inside your house and to like let them in so that they can help you. I mean, a really. Oh, talking about being in a rock and a hard place. I hope to never. Yeah. Rock and hard place. Yeah. Who do you choose? The man in front of you or the unknown man? The man in front of you is telling me. Or the maybe man fine. Impossible. An impossible choice. That's such a better question than man or bear. The man in front of you or the maybe man behind you. Truly. Yeah. So that one stuck with me the most because I was just so creeped out by the idea of it. Whereas this one's about a witch. Witches, witches are good. Yeah. There's no such things about which. Well, sorry, Henley. Okay. Well, this is propaganda against witches. Yes. They're who are good 100% of the time. Yeah. I'd say so it's like it doesn't stick with me as much because yeah, exactly. Witches are good. There's no bad witches. So I go home and go, well, that was a load of hoax. Oh my gosh. There it is. That said, I mean, I was like pretty tense the whole time, but it's I didn't bring it home with me. Right. Perfect. Okay. I like that kind of movie. And you know, maybe watching the other ones at home is part of it. It was already home with you. It was already in my home. So maybe I actually think watching a scary movie at home is for me, it's scary. I guess it can be because it's like more intimate, you know. Yeah, maybe that's part of what's better about theater. Yeah. I left it right at the theater. Yep. The ghosts, the demons, they stay in the theater, the portal, it's in the theater. It's not in your living room. It's not my bedroom. Nope. Fuck. Uh, Hockham has a 88% on Rotten Tomatoes. It's too good. 76 on Metacritic and a 7.4 on IMDB. Holy shit. All very good. Very good scores. Budget was five million so far. It's made 12 million. Wow. Which I can't tell if I'm like surprised by that or not. I feel like I have almost no understanding of which movies are going to do like amazingly well and which ones. I don't know. It seems hard to predict. I'm kind of surprised by a five million dollar budget is like, that's, that's not a lot of money. Yeah, it's pretty low. Kind of impressed. No spoilers, but is it in like one location basically? Yeah, pretty much. And I think I couldn't find a confirmation for this, but if you'll remember parts of Audity and Caviar are filmed in the same location there in this like castle somewhere in Ireland or this building in Ireland in West, Westcork. And I believe part of this is filmed there as well. I kind of recognized it, but it's all it's set decorated differently. So no, can't confirm or deny, but I suspect that it was filmed in at least part of it was filmed in the same location. But yes, most of it does take place. It's pretty contained. And I feel like that's kind of his. Style is like that being isolated in like a building around an island or scary way to be. And then just one piece of trivia that I guess will make sense as we get into it, but there is a scary rabbit person. Scary rabbit person. Yes. A scary rabbit man. And there's also a rabbit woman. Wait, aren't there rabbits in Audity and Caviar too? Or yes, there's a scary rabbit in while in both of them, but it's it's caviar is the like little drummer rabbit thing. Yes. And Damien McCarthy loves his little like antiques and trinkets and toys and little little cursed objects and things. Audities. Audities, exactly. But the rabbit comes back a lot. And I just read that it's because he was like very traumatized by the movie Watership Down as a kid and has just always had a little fear of of rabbits. Watership Down is one of those fucked up. There are so many books you have to read when you're a little kid that are like. So anything about Watership Down. I haven't seen it or read it and I but I looked up some images and was like, yeah, this looks like fucking really upsetting. It's just like a way for them to teach children about like horrible grief and death, but through animals, which is actually like worse. I feel like they're doing that in literally every movie always. It's just like every movie's about that. Like that's a fun one. I 100 percent if you were like Watership Down, do you know what that's what that is? It'd be like a battleship movie with Rihanna. Yeah, there is there is actually like a zero negative percent chance. I would ever be like animated animated movie about rabbits. Yeah. Was it first a book? A book about rabbits wouldn't have guessed. You could literally never have guessed. I just I had to read it. I was like a signed reading when I was a kid and it was like Jesus Christ. The the little blurb that comes up when you search it. It's an ecological tale of how men are destroying the earth and inadvertently it seems killing innocent wildlife. So that's not fun at all. Yeah. I mean, there was a lot of that in the 90s. And then look what we did. We said, let's ignore it and let's. Yeah, like, um, let's just let's pretend that never happened. I'm going to have to watch it. So that sounds like my favorite movie, Flow. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But yeah, very, very sad and upsetting. OK. OK. OK. That's all the trivia I have. Was Adam Scott done? Yes, Krampus. I was like, what horror movies has he done? He was also in The Monkey. He was in The Monkey. But just briefly, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I love Adam Scott. He's great in this. I saw Adam Scott one time when I was at an ohai. Nice. Yeah. We were at the ohai. What's that hotel called? Hmm. I can't remember. He was there with his family. I was there with Tim. I said, hello, Adam Scott. I said, hello, Adam Scott. It's me, Emily Cox. I'm here with my family. You're here with yours. So it's good to see you, Emily. Hello, Adam Scott. And that was it. We will watch the trailer at the end. That'll be available on our Patreon. 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The conquistador is looking at a little map, hand drawn map, little treasure map type thing and finds what he's been looking for. There is a red circle in part of the sand and we cut to Adam Scott at a desk in what looks like the filming location of oddity. Set deck is different, but the bones are the same. And we see him typing on a laptop, the epilogue to a novel. I would love someone to run the data on how many horror movie protagonists percentage wise are authors. I know it's a little. Is it like 100% or like 98? It's very funny because it's also like, well, I'm a writer, so I guess. What jobs do people have? I mean, the one that comes to mind. You're right. Or is it because novelists tend to be. A low haunted by demons or go clinically insane. Is that why? I'm sure there's many reasons why. Well, never know. Keep going. Maybe the story will tell us. It's definitely a trope, and I'll be honest. I'm I could do without this whole part of the movie. Yeah, it's like a new job. Yeah. Hobby is like a dentist. Dentist. Well, hobby like a dentist. Yeah. This is extremely difficult, difficult, really hard hobby. They don't really let you do it as a hobby, honestly. You kind of got to seek it out yourself. It should be more like studio execs, corporate execs who are being haunted by demons. Anyway, sorry, just putting that in in case anyone's listening. That would be funny. That's good. That's good. So he's he's collecting away the keys. It's a dark, rainy night. He's writing the third installment of his successful Conquistador trilogy. I mean, we are none of us can get out of Conquistador. Well, I don't care if it's mine. Novel. I want to read about Conquistadors. Cut back to the desert. We see the Conquistador pulls out a glass bottle with a little scroll inside. And we find out he he's supposed to break this bottle in the in the middle of this circle. And then something's going to happen. We don't we don't know what. But that's what he's trying to do. And as he pulls it out, he realizes, like, what's he going to break it on? That he's like hitting it down into the sand. And obviously, that's not doing anything. We see the little boy like saying, like, I'll find a rock. I'll find a rock digging through sand, searching for a rock. There's nothing. Oh, my God. What are we going to do? The Conquistador starts like tapping the bottle against his head and being like, think, think, think. And then as it's thumping on his little skull, he gets a little light bulb. Looks over at that little child. Oh, my God. And calls the boy over. We see back to Adam Scott typing and says, like, he brings down the bottle onto the boy's head, smashing his skull, cut back to the desert, see the Conquistador raise the bottle up. But just then back in the house. Adam Scott's name is Ohm in it. Ohm, Bauman. Oh, man. Or Bauman. So Ohm hears something and looks up and on the stairs across from him, a woman is just standing in shadow. He freezes, grabs the lamp that's on his desk, twists it towards the shadow. She's gone. We see it cuts to the reverse shot. She's right behind him. Jump scare. But he doesn't see. So he puts the laptop away. He's going to come back to it later. Is this a ghost or a real woman? It's a ghost because she's she's gone again. OK, we're getting ghosts. It's it's definitely Ghost Five. It's not real human vibes. It's definitely Ghost Five. Yeah, she's she like moved. Right, right, right. So he gets up, he pulls out a box of trinkets. Jesus Christ. And inside there is a handgun. A like a trinket handgun or a real handgun. It's a real handgun. Yeah, sorry. I guess trinket is not the word. A gun's not a trinket. Yeah. You sound like you're running for California governor. Trinkets for everyone. He pulls out. Yeah, trinkets is not the word I was looking for. This is like a box of memories, memory, memorabilia, family memorabilia. What word am I looking for? Keepsakes, keepsakes, family heirlooms, tokens. No, it's not a token either. It's a gun. An heirloom seems right. The gun could be an heirloom. Can a gun be an heirloom? It's more than a drink. It's certainly it's a musket. What kind of gun is it? It's a little handgun. Does it look old? Is it a lot old? An antique handgun. Antique clock. Some day antique clock. And there's also some postcards and photos of his parents, including a photo of his mom leaning against a big redwood tree. There's some writing on it that says like me and the big redwood tree or something like that. And then the postcard is from their honeymoon at the Billberry Woods Hotel in Ireland. He looks over and on the counter in his living room are two containers of ashes, one that says mom, one that says dad. So with this, we're going to Ireland. Okay. We arrive at the Billberry Woods Hotel. Ohm pulls into the parking lot and we see a groundskeeper that has just killed a goat. He's like dragging this goat corpse around. It's pretty upsetting. Ohm asks him, why did you have to kill it? He says, oh, these goats are a pest. They're a nuisance. He says, couldn't you have just like shoot it away? We see he killed it with a crossbow. And this groundskeeper is pretty gruff and like, no, I couldn't have. Okay. Like, leave me alone. Not a friendly, warm welcoming. Ohm goes to the front desk to check in. And while he's waiting in the like little welcome area, there's an old man telling a spooky story to two young boys about a witch that used to live in these woods that would capture travelers or people who get lost in the woods, put them in shackles and drag them down to the underworld. And as they were pulled past all the other souls in the underworld, they get like ripped apart. And Ohm looks over at this and is like, hey kids, do you know this man? And they're like, no. He's like, go find your parents and like kind of scolds the old man. He's like, leave him alone. Like stop being weird. And just then the front desk guy comes up, his name's Mal, and he's checking him in and says like, oh, hi, whatever to the old man we find out in this interaction. The old man is the owner of the hotel. Ohm always put in your foot in it. And Ohm looks like he does not give a shit at all. He's not embarrassed at all. He's like, whatever, fuck that guy. Ohm is very like also quite gruff and unfriendly. Say my way or the highway. Like every novelist, every writer. Exactly. So the Mal is checking a man, getting him set up with his key and stuff. And he says, he sees his name on his credit card and is like, oh, Ohm, Bauman, are you the writer? My son is like a big fan. Maybe I could bring in his book and you could sign it. And Ohm says, no. So he's being an asshole. Mal's like, okay, gives him his key. He heads up to his room and the guy writing the kinkisador books is not nice. Really strange. What? I thought he'd be like so warm and open to pick such a topic. Kinkisador is in a desert with a slave boy? So he's up looking for his room when he passes the honeymoon suite, which we're clocking because we're presuming that's where his parents stayed. So he's curious about it. But as he passes it, we see the old man and the groundskeeper locking it up and looking kind of suspicious. It has this big like chain door in front of it. That's like, don't go in. So funny. So he's a little confused thrown off by that. Continues on looking for his room. He can't find it. A woman who also works at the hotel named Fiona comes by and offers to help him. He's pretty rude to her as well. She asks him if he's lost and I can't remember what he says. He's like, yeah, it's a fucking place. He doesn't make any sense. And she's like, well, with that attitude, you can stay lost by. And then he like softens to her and is a little bit nicer, but we respect her being an asshole right back to him. I should do more of that too. I love that. Yeah, yeah, it did. It was just like, oh, this girl's cool. She's awesome. And so she ends up helping him find his room and tells him, you know, if you need anything, let me know. And he's like, actually, do you know where this redwood tree is? I'm here because my parents had their honeymoon here and I would like to find this tree. She tells him where it is, cut to him at the tree with the two containers of ashes. He opens his mom's and like sprinkles it very careingly and lovingly like all around the base of the redwood tree. And then he opens his dad's and just like dumps it, like shakes it, like throws it. Which I thought was like a very clever. Yeah, it's a good way to get you writing 101, but it's also like, they really showed and not they did not tell. We get it. We get it. And we didn't need any words. It was so efficient, also very efficient. And he's about to leave when he is startled by a man in the woods who at first looks a little scary, but pretty quickly he's like funny and sweet. This is Jerry. He's like a local, looks a little vagranty. He's a little weird. He's drinking a big like glass jar of milk. But they have a nice little chat. It seems like Ohm likes this guy more than some of the other people we've seen him interact with. They have a little moment. Oh, because Jerry has seen him like sprinkle the ashes. And so they have like a little, he's nice to him. And he offers him some moonshine, which Ohm accepts and then asks him about the milk. And he says it's actually magic mushrooms, but I like the way that it tastes with milk. Oh, well, then that's normal. I respect that. I respect that. Now I feel less weird about the milk. And Jerry's played by David Wilmott, Wilmott, who was in Station 11. Henley. He's like a redheaded Irish guy. Oh, yes. Oh, yeah, I know exactly. Yeah. That's perfect. Personally. He's in four of industry and I'm just think he's incredible and just have to say shout out David Wilmott. Yeah. Love this guy. Agree. Fully agree. So we are back at the hotel that night at the hotel bar. Fiona is the bartender. So she's she's so fucking cool. And she's Irish. Irish bartender. Irish lady bartender. Doesn't get cooler than that. Not afraid to be an asshole. Fiona. So he's telling her the ending of his book is like so then he ends up like bashing the kids head in, but the bottle still doesn't break. And so he's just alone in the desert, like with no water. That's fucked up. Okay. And Fiona is like that's so bleak. Like who would read that? That sounds awful. I'm not reading these fucking books. But they're just chatting. They're having a nice, a nice little time. Also this hotel is like so cute. I know spooky things are going to happen here, but he's like, oh my God, this fucking dump. Why would they come here for their honeymoon? I'm like, if I were in this like little Irish inn, I would be on cloud nine. Just light as a feather. Absolutely floating. Which is welcome. Anyone welcome? Yeah. It has a little like hotel box, like an old Irish inn with a little hotel bar with a cool fucking bartender. Excuse me. This is a dream come true. We need to go to Ireland, you guys. Except for the stuff that's bad. Well except for the stuff that's bad. Yeah. I'm going to do it. I really want to go. Let's buy a house in Ireland. To Kark. To Kark. I'm reading a book. To Kark. We go. The book I'm reading right now takes place in Kork. Oh, better go to Kark. I'm reading the Rachel instant right now, which takes place in Kork. So. You mean Kark? Kark. Because they also say often Krak, C-R-A-I-C. Oh, there was a little crack joke. You just, I think you just say Krak. Krak. Krak. Krak. There is a little joke about that when he's checking in, Mal's like, there's a little party down here later. It'll be like, good Krak. Then we use that for fun. And he's like, okay, well make sure my room is far away from the Krak. Yeah. Well. But yeah, it's a good word. Okay. I agree. Have a little Krak. Which is I'm sure the exact way they say it. We did it right. Kork. Krak. Krak. Krak. Krak. But Ohm's getting a little drunk. He's having a few whiskeys and he's sharing a little more about himself. Obviously, they had talked about his parents because this is where they came for their honeymoon. And she asks, like, where are they now? And he says, well, his mom was killed like six years after the honeymoon photo was taken. That's so sad. And, yeah, she's so feebleness, you know, saying, I'm so sorry. What about your dad? And he says, well, my dad, like, after that happened, just like, drank himself to an early death and was like really horrible to me the whole rest of his life. And, and she asks, well, did they, did they get the guy who, who did it, who killed your mom? And he says he was too young to try. So he got, he got away with it. Um, obviously upsetting. Okay. But immediately, yeah, immediately, my brain is going in a certain direction. Yeah. I mean, Jenna was like him. Does he mean him? I literally didn't, I did not catch it, but yes, he does. We'll get there. Yeah. I mean, my brain went to where Jenna's. Yeah. Well, first I went to the dad. I was like, were they like 13 when they got pregnant and then their honeymoon picture, they got married. Like, she might mean it. But then I was like, that doesn't math doesn't work. Okay. Well, the next youngest person we're aware of would be him. Yeah. Damn. Yeah. Um, damn it. It's done. Stop for me. Happy Mother's Day to me. You motherfuckers. I was going to say there is some mother, some mother stuff in this. Some mother stuff. I guess this will undo all the happy mother's days, you know, get you back to zero. Yeah. Yeah. Nice neutral state. Well, that's what was already happening. The amount of mother's days was so much that I mean, I guess it became negative negative and it became, it was like going up and then back down. Okay. So now we're going back to bring back up. We'll see how Emily is just going to bring me back up. If you could keep. Okay. If you could keep me abreast of how it's bringing me back up periodically as Sammy tells us the story, I would love for you to do so. Okay. We had some fun talking about Kark. Yeah, they could be some. I'll try to add some more Irish accents in to bring you back up. For the more of that. To bring you back up. Have a little crack with you. If you guys don't, I swear to God, I'm going to fucking crack your corks. Just get a cracker corks. Oh my God. You won't see it coming. I do not want my cork cracked. Okay. Okay. I'm fine. I'm ready. I'm ready. So Oam asks Fiona, what's the deal with the honeymoon suite? I saw them locking it up earlier. Does anybody stay there anymore? And she kind of leans on the bar top and she says no because there's a witch in there and says that the owner of the hotel captured a witch in there and won't let anybody in. And she's saying it playfully and saying she's been trying to get in, but Mal won't give her the key because she's curious and he's saying, like, why would you want to go in there if there's a witch in there? And she's like, well, I want to see like what all the fuss is about. Witches are good. Because witches are good. Also in what universe would that be anything you playfully talk about? If I told someone playfully, they captured a witch in there. They would think something's wrong with her. Is she okay? And she's like, she doesn't believe that there's a witch in there, I think is the... Yeah, she's having a bit of a long off. She's having a bit of a crack in a croak. A bit of a crack in a croak. A bit of a crack in a croak. And she pulls out a book of witch folklore. This is like a Gaelic Irish witch that we are going to eventually encounter and shows that one of the ways to protect yourself from these witches is to draw a chalk circle around yourself. I feel like we've heard this before. Maybe that's just with... Heard this before. Maybe it's just with ants. It's certainly... One or the other. Certainly one or the other, yeah. And he says, if I'm seeing a witch, I'm going to be calling a psychiatrist before I reach for a piece of chalk. Thank you very much. He doesn't believe it. Just then, one of the bell boys comes up. His name is Albie. I love Albie. Sometimes an actor, just the second you see them, you're like, I love this guy. I've never seen him before in anything, but Albie's my guy. All actors should be... I love that feeling. We should all get that feeling. And Fiona calls him over, says, Albie, tell Mr. Bellman your witch story when you saw the witch. And he's like, okay, he sets down his tray. He had been like, bussing some meal tray and sets that down on the counter next to Ohm. And we are seeing as he's describing one day as he walked past the honeymoon suite, he heard a noise, and he goes to investigate. It's an elevator that takes you down to the honeymoon suite. And so this drop-git thing is one of those old-timey elevator things, but it's just locked permanently now. So he walks over to it and behind the gate, it's just like you can't see anything. It's pitch black, but he takes out a lighter and sticks his hand through the gate to look and see what is in here. And eventually we just see still kind of in the distance a woman's face appear from the darkness. Just looks like a disembodied head almost. All you see is her like smiling face. And he's so scared, he runs off. And that's the story. Cut back to them all at the bar. Adam Scott Ohm says, Hockham. Doesn't believe it. And he's being really rude to Albie. Because he looks straight to camera when he says Hockham. Hockham, the name of the movie. Does he wink? Hockham. Yes. Yes and yes. And then he goes, got him. Hockham, if you got him. Then Albie recognizes him or has heard through the grapevine. He's like, by the way, like I know who you are. I'm a big fan of the congis d'Or trilogy. And I'm a writer too. And I'd love it if you could like read some of my stuff. And Ohm is like, oh, is this a costume that you're wearing? And he's wearing his uniform from the hotel. He's like, no, no, this is my uniform. He's like, so you're not a writer. You're a bellboy. Whoa, that is so mean. I can also really see Adam Scott being this mean. Yeah, that is so mean. This is why he needed Adam Scott to do this role is because he needed someone that you could love despite being so mean. Adam Scott really does pull it off. You are like, wow, what an asshole. But I have a feeling that he's going to come around. Yeah, like I'm still going to root for you, but don't be so mean. But just wait, because next he like grabs a spoon off the tray that Albie had sat down and sat down and he puts it in like positioned atop a candle. So the spoon part is getting hotter and hotter as Albie's like kind of blabbered about writing and stuff. He's like, I think you would really like it. And like he's clearly annoying Ohm. But you are like, why is he getting that spoon really hot? And sure enough, he eventually grabs it and presses it on Albie's hand. Albie recoils in pain. And he says, you're going to need thicker skin than that if you want to be a writer. Whoa. She is a soul. All right. Well, he was. Yeah. And that's also like, well, if you're such a writer, you know that that's a metaphor. And we're not actually burning people through their skin. You're so hurt. You're so skin. You can still hurt like regular people's skin. Oh, Hockham did not own, own Bowman. Did you think his name was Hockham? For a second. Yeah. Mr. Ohm Hockham did not have a great childhood. Yeah. Yeah. Probably he murdered his mom. Yeah. Maybe accidentally. Maybe he should say killed, maybe he should say killed, but he's traumatized for sure. I'd love to just be waiting to find out more about that. So please keep going. So he goes up to bed. And leaves his tape recorder. We hadn't seen a little tape recorder earlier. It's where he like records his ideas for his writing. And Fiona finds that he left it on the bar. So she goes up to bring it back to him, knocks on the door. He's not answering. And very quickly she's like, she calls over Albie. She's like, let me into his room. And he's like, what? He's probably asleep. I can't just let you into his room. I have a bad feeling. You need to open the door right now. And so Albie does. And Ohm has hung himself in the hotel room. Fiona like grabs a little blade thing and is able to cut him down. We see like a vision turns like black and white. And we see Ohm going down the elevator into the honeymoon suite. And there's like a jump scare of his mom when the elevator doors open. Like that something, something spooky and cut to him waking up in a hospital bed. This is a few weeks later. He's released from the hospital and goes back to the to the hotel to pick up his things. And Mal is there and is like, oh my gosh, oh my, how are you doing? Is there anything we can do for you? And he's like, I'm just here to get my stuff. And he asks who found him or maybe Mal just tells him it was Fiona who found you and it really fucked her up and she's missing now. Oh my God. Oh boy. So Mal tells Ohm that there's an investigation underway. The police suspect Jerry because he's the last. He's the last person that she was just going from bad to worse. Is there anyone else in this town besides Jerry for you to point out? Come on. I know, get a little more creative. But the groundskeeper. That's what the detectives need to be doing is getting great. Think outside the box. Think outside of Jerry. And Jerry's too sweet. He would never. We liked him in station 11. We liked him in station 11 and he would never do something like this. And he was definitely not bad in station 11 and all ever. He didn't do one bad thing. So the groundskeeper. I don't know if I mentioned the groundskeeper's name is Fergal and Fergal saw Fiona talking to Jerry and that's the last anyone had seen of her. And then in their digging, the detectives have found that Jerry is wanted for killing his ex-wife and like disappeared 10 years ago from like a different. Well, Jerry and I not making us look great. We're a little more suspicious about Jerry. Olm asks, did anyone check the honeymoon suite? She had mentioned that she wanted to go up there and like see what was going on up there. And Fergal is like, it's locked. It's always locked. And he's like pressing him a bit like, yeah, but we should just to check everywhere. And he's like, there's no reason to check there. It is always locked. Like now you need to go home while you still look like your passport picture. OK, that's really sick. That's so suspicious. Yeah, very suspicious. Oh, that's all of his stuff, but he is he's not planning on leaving. We want to poke around, see what we can find out. He feels, you know, like a little not responsible, but like he wants to help find Fiona and so he goes out into the woods and finds where Jerry's car is parked. It's like a van and he sees in the back of the van, Fiona's witch book, folklore book. And he like closes the van door and jumpscare Jerry's right there, looking a little more sinister this time and is startled. But it's like, Jerry, you know, everyone's looking for you. They think you killed Fiona. He's like, yeah, I know I didn't do that. And he's like, they also said that you killed your ex-wife. Like they suspect you of that as well. And he's like, yeah, I did. Oh, Jerry, come on. And cut. Quickly, we learn that he his wife was terminally ill and suffering. And oh my God, well, now I have a different. I cannot keep a street. And he said he would do it again. And he has seen his wife in visions and knows that and she thanked him for it. And he will see her again on the other side one day. We love Jerry. Oh, God, I love Jerry. So Ohm's like, OK, so what do we do about Fiona? And he says, he says, I don't know. I don't know where she is, but I know that she's dead. And Ohm says, what? What do you mean? How do you know that? Jerry says that he sometimes breaks into the hotel at nighttime. People leave medication there and they like keep it all in the back. Like where people leave stuff behind and he raids the medication closet. So figure, Jerry, he's a sling, shoddy back and forth. Suspicious here. So he's going and raiding the medicine cabinet. OK, when. Jerry, here's a bell ringing and at the front desk, each of the rooms has a call bell that. Yeah, scary, scary, scary, scary, scary, scary, scary, scary. And sees that it is the honeymoon suite in the middle of the night. Could be the witch wanting a little snack. And jump scare pan down to Fiona's ghost pointing up at the bell. And so Jerry's like, I saw a ghost and so I know she's dead. Yikes. Yeah. And he does say that he thinks the magic mushrooms are like helping him be open to seeing other worlds or whatever. He's like, he's like, this is the milk. That are the milk. They're putting crazy shit in cows these days. That's true. That's true. But he's basically like this stuff is real. It just depends on if you're like, mind is open enough to see it type of thing. How can you tell how open your mind is? Like, have seen a bunch of goats. Yeah. Oh, the hotel is closing down for winter, I believe. So everyone is is leaving, getting ready to leave that night. And Jerry tells, oh, I'm like, tonight we're going to break in and we're going to check the honeymoon suite. Uh oh. So they wait till nightfall. They creep in. They get the key. Jerry gives the key to home and then is like, I'm going to go get the crossbow just in case because there's the hotel has the crossbow for the goats. And as he goes back, Fergal is there and knocks Jerry out and Ohm hears it. Ohm is in the lobby and hears the scuffle and kind of slinks into the shadows because it's completely dark and nighttime in there. So he's just hiding in a corner being completely silent as Fergal grabs Jerry, takes him out of the hotel. He's just like, I got you. I'm taking you to the police. Oh, no. So he puts Jerry into the back. Jerry's unconscious now too, I think. And he throws him in the back of the van. But Ohm has the keys. And he stays. He stays hidden. And now he is alone in the hotel with the key to the honeymoon suite. And the witch. And he goes to the honeymoon suite, unlocks that gate, goes down the elevator. I mean, the thing is, if you're Ohm, you might not think you're going to find a witch, but you can imagine you're finding anything good. Yeah. You know? He wants some resolution or like confirmation about something about his childhood, which he's like, what are you going to find in this room? It's like they're keeping it locked. I suppose you can imagine they're just delusional and are keeping it locked for no reason, but like that really feels like the least likely outcome here. Like at a minimum, you're getting brain cancer from the mold that's in there. Like it's covered in black mold. Yeah, or it's like filled with bodies or it's like there's something bad. There's something bad. Right. I guess he's an author and he has to discover. He's looking for redemption. He wants to save Fiona. Yeah. But yeah, I agree. I mean, don't go in there alone. Don't go in there at night alone. But he kind of has a death wish, doesn't he? So yeah, well, he's not really too concerned with anything else. Yeah. So he goes in, looks around. There's lots of oddities and trinkets everywhere. Trinkets. Boogie. The place is pretty nasty. It's in a state of disrepair. No one has been in there a long time. But it's not a crime. Wallpaper peeling and such. But it is like cute. It does have like a little bit Madonna and vibes. Like in its heyday and its prime. There's sorry, Emily, a four post, four poster bed. That's okay. Sometimes they are creepy, but that's okay. I still love mine. Yeah. It has the sheer curtains down. So it's what's in there. Spooky. What's in there? And the other spooky thing in the bathroom. The bathtub is like filled with brown water. Really gross. Like it's been like leaking and I don't know. Down. Rusty or I don't know. Gross. Hate that. So he checks the whole place. There's Fiona's not there. Nobody's there. And he sits down on the bed. Opens the curtains. No, no one's on the bed. Ben is empty. I pulls out a flask. He's just drinking. And I think just passes out on the bed. Oh, boy. Buddy. Then we get a dream slash flashback of him as about a six-year-old boy playing with his dad's gun. The gun. When it goes off and. Oh, that's not his fault. It sucks. And he's watching a very creepy rabbit man on the television while this happens. And it's done like stylized. Like they're kind of in like a void. It's just like a black floaty space where you just see him and the TV. And then his mom like stumbling over, bleeding and like hugging him as she dies. So sorry. Oh my God. Happy Father's Day. Happy Father's Day to me. I love, I love that happened in a void. I love that. I feel so separated from it now. And so relieved that we, that no one in this country has guns or buys guns and guns are not an issue. That actually like never happens. I'm so relieved that guns are just a trinket. Completely impossible. And this never happens to anyone. I'm so relieved. Less lately than the witch even. Ireland's a fictitious place. So that's also. God for Cark being a crick. Cark being a crick. So he passes out in the bed. We see just for us, the creepy rabbit head poking through the curtains of the bed. Just for fun. Of the bed. Jump scare. There are quite a few jump scares in this, which I don't recall in the other movies. So I kind of went into it being like, well, there won't be any jump scares. So that'll be fine. There was a lot. But you guys will get a peek at this rabbit when we watch the trailer and I'm a fan. Okay. He wakes up the next morning. Mal is in the has found him. Sees the flask next to him on the bed. And it males like worried about him. He obviously knows that this guy just attempted suicide. And does Mal believe that the witch is in the room? I guess not. He doesn't seem scared. Okay. Because it's like you did let the witch out probably. Right. But Mal is just, yeah, no, he's more just concerned. And he's like, okay, like, let's get you home. And he's like, what are you doing up here? Like, why'd you like what's going on? And he's like, I just wanted to see if Fiona was in here and Mal's like looking at him, pitying at him and is like, okay, come on, like, let's get you. Let's get you home. And Ohm on the way out sees a dumb waiter, like a closet door and is like, oh, I didn't. They had one of those in the Victorian mansion in Los Altos, which is a nice day. It is a good day, but it also was really fun. Because it was like, they gave our breakfast to us in the morning in the dumb way. We'd open it up and there'd be a breakfast. That is fun. But it is also a prime place for his boogie horror. Scary thing to be for a limb to be placed. Yes. And Ohm just says, you know, oh, I didn't check the dumb waiter. I should check that. And Mal is like, no, don't check that. So now Ohm is like, well, I have to check it. And he opens it and it's like at the basement, like the dumb waiter's not there. And he's like, it's just goes to the basement. There's nothing down there. There's no, it wouldn't, it's been down there this whole time. There's like no way that anything could be down there. Ohm presses the call button. No. And Mal, I think immediately like kind of knocks him down, runs out of the room and locks. Ohm in the honeymoon suite again and just leaves. Mal. Dumb waiter comes up. Mal. Mal. Fiona's dead body is in the dumb waiter. In another creepy rabbit costume because she went missing on Halloween. She's in a costume? She's in a house in a rabbit costume. Oh no. Oh my God. Did they like fucking feed her to the witch or did she? I guess we're going to find out. But like Mal locking him back in there is really upsetting me. Unless he's like locking him in there so he can't tell. I don't know. I don't know what Mal is thinking. I don't like it. Well, we get a flashback now to the Halloween party at the hotel. We see Fiona in this costume. So this is the night that it all happened. She's still shaken from the experience of having found Ohm and cutting him down. And Mal, who we're now obviously know to be suspicious of is like, here, I made you a cup of tea. Oh, we're like, don't drink that. But she is not suspicious of him. She drinks the tea very quickly, starts losing consciousness, and he carries her up into the honeymoon suite and locks her in there. It's fucking crazy that Rufi's are a thing also. I know there's all sorts of crazy things that exist in drugs and whatever, but like, that's fucking crazy that that's a real thing. I'm really bad. I've also recently been like looking back over my like 20s and been thinking like, I feel like I was Rufi a couple times. But like nothing happens. It happens a lot. I know. A lot. I know. And I had a Rufi put in my drink and I saw it. I saw like a fizzling pill at the bottom of my drink. It's so common and it's happened to so many people I know. I was like, how it's crazy this never happened to me. And then I was thinking back and I was thinking, what about that time that you got so sick, you had to get into a taxi have and go home immediately. What was that about? You know what I mean? It's like these moments where like, I wasn't even thinking like I was like 23. Because it didn't. Well, nothing bad happened to me. You do what I mean. But it's like, but also like, they're so fucking common. You have to be so careful. You have to be so fucking careful. Anyway, sorry. Yeah, everybody stay vigilant out there. Stay fucking vigilant. And it's like a situation like this. It's like, I know this person. Right. Yeah. But someone you know can also fucking Rufi. I know most of the time it is someone you know. Yeah. That's everything. That's the case with the fucking everything. I know. Ah. But actually what's cool is that this was completely fictional. This doesn't exist and it's not real. We're just having to crack and cork. A crack. So back to the present. Ohm in the honeymoon suite with Fiona's corpse. He notices next to her is his tape recorder and he plays it. And we hear Fiona speaking and she says, you know, I'm stuck in here. I think I'm going to get out. Mal did this. I think I'm going to get out, but like I'm pretty scared. And just in case like if someone finds this, tell my parents I love them. And tells the listener that she is pregnant with Mal's baby. But Mal is married to the owner of the hotel's daughter. And Fiona's like I told him I would never tell anybody that like he didn't have to be involved at all. I just wanted to keep the baby. So that's Mal's motivation. One thing I will say, there's no fucking way Fiona would fuck this guy. I guess. Fiona is so cool. You're cooler than this. Also, I mean, it simply cannot be up to code to have a hotel room that you can get 100 percent trapped in. Yeah, that's not right. Definitely not like no windows, no other way out. Yeah, the windows are like what about a fire? What about a fucking fire? Yeah, it's a fire hazard. Yeah, fire violation. Yep. That's why I don't believe this movie. Fuck this movie. That doesn't make sense. So who wouldn't? Hope him. Cut to Jerry coming to in the back of the van. Jerry almost forgot about Jerry. Being driven to the police station, but he wakes up and he opens the back of the van. They're driving not a healthy clip down a country road, but he jumps right out. Cut back to Ome in the honeymoon suite. He's looking for a way out. This is, yeah, I guess where we're seeing more of like the windows being locked. And I kind of think he doesn't try enough stuff, but there's not a lot of windows. And he does give him a little try. There's a moment somewhere that I'm now confused when it happened, but I'll just say it now, because it really freaked me out where we see the dumb waiter and Fiona's body is gone. Hate that. Hate that. And then eventually it like reappears. It's in a series of scary things happening. So I've lost the order, but I remember that moment being very scary. And just then the TV in the hotel turns on and guess what show it is? It's the rabbit show. And it's talking basically straight to Ome. And it's saying we've gathered around kids, you know, like a little kids TV show. And there's all the kids around the very scary rabbit man saying, we're going to answer some letters today. And our first letter is from Ome Bowman, like a seven year old boy who says, whatever, Mr. Rabbit basically says, like I accidentally hurt my mom and she's dead. I can't, I don't remember what it says, but then the rabbit man like says to all the kids in the audience, like what dies kids and all the kids go, everything. That's true. Everything does die. It's beautiful. It's true. It's beautiful. That's a circle of life. Circle of life and. It's really beautiful. Okay. It's beautiful. It's really beautiful. There's nothing sad about it. Back to Ome's letter. He says, my dad, now my dad hates me and I'm scared all the time. No. Oh my God. Oh my God. No. And then Mr. Rabbit looks to the camera and says just all the darkest, most horrible things that own fears of like, oh, you're scared all the time. Well, like you killed your dad's wife. No wonder he hates you and you should be scared. You did the worst thing you could have ever done and nobody's coming to save you. Oh my God. Which is like really escalates. TV turns off. He is. Believing in witches a little bit more. He's looking pretty scared. By the way, this is why I'm scared to do ayahuasca. I'm afraid ayahuasca would be something like this. I'm afraid something like this would happen to me. Yeah. Just all your deepest fears like manifested in front of you. Like in a children's program. Yeah. And I would feel like a child watching a children's program while it was happening. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. So. But just then he notices a map like behind the TV. I think off from app. That says it's like a fire escape map. And see that there is a fire exit in the basement. Oh, that's tricky. Real catch 22 there. Fire escape in the basement. Real catch 22. That's tough. So he goes to the dumb waiter where he has to take out a dead body out of it. Where Fiona's body is. Yeah. And he has to slide his hands underneath her. Oh, no. Carry her out. He sets her on a chair like facing the dumb waiter, which I'm like, I don't like that. I don't like that. Oh. Is she like injured? I mean, she's dead. But is she decomposing? We can't really see. She's her, her face is scary. Her face is, yeah, like blue. Oh, you probably strangled her. Yeah, maybe. Or did the witch kill her? Or the witch, yeah. Or the witch. Hard to say. All right. There's also a witch. This witch, quote unquote. I mean, I'll believe it when I see it, I guess. Same. Well, get ready. I'm about to see it. So he goes down into the basement. This stuff is all very tense. You're like, oh my god, oh my god. I was really plugging my ears. And he gets down there. It's like stone hallways lit by like flickering candles, real nasty stuff. There's a lot of trinkets, like dangling from the ceiling that are hung up. Like they look like fish hooks and keychains and just like random little witch trinkets. Only a witch would do that. He passes through. It's almost like a little trinket curtain. Yeah, that seems like maybe don't pass the trinket curtain. We never really find out if the trinket curtain has anything to do with it. But that's just me personally. I think the trinket curtain was some sort of like do not pass. Don't pass a trinket curtain. Yeah. Good advice. And he passes the trinket curtain. He's moving down these dark hallways. And now he listens to the next part of the tape recorder. Oh no. Should have listened to this before you went down here. Because now we hear Fiona sounding absolutely terrified, saying I think there's someone down here, someone down here with me. Oh my God. No, no, no, no, no, no. And a little shadow move somewhere. Even in the most beautifully lit, safe, feeling, comfortable place, I'm not taking this opportunity to continue listening to the recordings of a dead woman. I'm, I, I wouldn't be like, oh shoot. Let's play on that again. Let's see what else. Like that's absolutely not. No, it probably won't matter, but it's just, it's important to know it's good to say. I agree. Just seems like a really scary choice. It's very scary. And then a lot of the lights go out down there and he's here in footsteps and breathing. And he sees a piece of chalk on the ground and boy does he snatch it up real quick. Hell yeah. And he runs back toward the dumb waiter. He's trying to go back up and we see a little outline of a little witch. And she's kind of keeping her, she's keeping her distance a little bit, but she's definitely following him. A little one, how little? Well, you know how old people just like get a little smaller again? Yeah. She just looks like regular old person size. Okay, fine. She is following him. He gets into the dumb waiter. He's going back up and as he gets out of the dumb waiter, back into the honeymoon suite, he looks down the shaft and just sees her crawling up the side. It's, she's coming up. He runs to the bed, draws a big chalk circle all around the bed. Wait, first, sorry, before that. She gets in and he's hiding from her in all different spots of the room. He runs through, there's like a window in the bathroom and he jumps through that, lands in the nasty brown water bathtub. We knew that was going to happen. And it's a very scary chase scene where we see, you don't fully see her, but you're just seeing like shadow in a little hand, like grabbing and wiggling doorknobs and like trying to get him. And then eventually it ends up at the bed where he draws the big chalk circle and he's in the middle of the bed and we're just seeing her kind of circle the periphery. What does she look like? She's a little giggling. She has kind of sharp teeth. I mean, we're not like getting too good of a look at her, but she just looks like a lady. Like an old lady. She looks like a lady with like a black dress and a black boots and like a pointy hat. Kind of classic witch stuff. Yeah. Okay, all right. I just want to know what witches are wearing these days. I'm going to be up on which fashion. Yeah. Yeah. Pointy teeth and small. Got it. And giggling. She's having, she's having a laugh. She's having a laugh. See, I'm telling you 100% good. If you're laughing, you're good. If you're laughing, you're good. That is the truth. If you're having a crack. If you're having a crack, you don't crack and you're good. So we cut away from that straight to the next morning. What the hell happened last night? We see Mal coming back to the hotel. He finds the door open. There's like streaks of blood against some of the walls, like a bloody handprint on the front desk. Oh my God. What the hell happened? Get out of the room. Did he fight the witch? Did he die? And we see it's Jerry has made his way back to the hotel and he is pretty fucked up because he jumped out of the back of a moving van. And he sees Mal and is like, have you seen Ohm? I was here with him. We were looking for Fiona and I think he might be in the honeymoon suite. Mal, of course, is like, no, Jerry, I found him yesterday. I sent him to the airport. He's on his way back to America. You don't need to worry about him. And then we see Ohm waking up. He fucked this motherfucker fell asleep. Oh my God. Absolutely shocking. He's looking out the, he's like hearing a little something, the muffled talking. He's hearing Jerry and Mal, but you know, he's was the witch still in the room. He's peeking out. He's still in the circle. Doesn't see anything. Steps out of the circle. No. He's looking around. Nothing happens. All right. Seems like the witch is gone. The witch is nocturnal. I guess so. And then he sees out the window a car in the in the parking lot, which I think, well, I guess it doesn't make sense that it would be Jerry's car, but whatever. He knows that Jerry is here somehow. And we see the honeymoon suite bell, like right behind Jerry and Mal where they're talking. And Ohm gets the idea. I got to ring the honeymoon suite bell just as Mal's like escorting Jerry out and is like, you'd go on home. It's not, he's not here. Ohm doesn't know where the call bell is. He's like looking all around and eventually finds it and presses it just as Jerry's like outside and doesn't hear it. He's devastated trying to call out to Jerry, but Jerry can't hear him. And then we see Jerry who's like limping and going so slow. And then he turns around and comes back towards the hotel. Ohm runs back to the call bell and he's just pushing it and pushing and pushing and he pushes it like, or it's like a pull thing actually. Sorry. It's like a toy that you pull a string to make it say a phrase. It's like that. So he's pulling it and pulling it and he pulls it so hard that he pulls it like all the way out. And it's like, fuck. And so he like starts smashing like a hole in the wall and is like reaching his hand into the wall, which I really don't like fishing around for whatever he, wherever the call button is connected to. He's trying to do this while we're seeing back downstairs. Jerry is like, I forgot my car keys. I gotta come grab my car keys. And he's, all right, I gotta go again. Goodbye. I'm walking away. And just at the last second, Ohm finds the call bell within the wall, presses it. Jerry and Mal look at each other. And I don't remember what they do. I think Jerry like knocks, like knocks him, punches him and like steals the keys and runs upstairs to the honeymoon suite. So he's got a bit of a like a head start from Mal and he goes into the honeymoon suite. We see Ohm in there. There's like a locked, there's a front entrance and then there's like a second locked door. And so Jerry's like trying to figure out which key to open this second door. And there's like a little mini door that he can't like, sorry, I can't totally remember what was happening in this scene. But they can see each other. There's like a small opening that he can't quite fit through that he's like, they're like communicating to each other through this hole. And he's like, he's like, try this key and like, you're just trying to get it open. And he's like, okay, I'm going to get you out of there. And he's saying like Fiona's in here. Fiona's body was, she's dead. Mal killed her. I was like, oh my God. And he's like, I'm going to get you out of here. And of course, right as he's like about to open the door. Mal comes in with the crossbow and kills Jerry crossbow to the head. Really, really tough. Jerry, we loved you. You were complicated. You had so many ups and downs. I just want to say we were grateful for you, Jerry. We were grateful for you, Jerry. We love you, Jerry. We love you so much. We love you. You didn't deserve to die by crossbow. That's really tough. So before Mal fully enters the room, Ohm sees the keys. And again, I can't remember the fucking mechanics of how this happened, but somehow he locks both of them into the room. So he locks Mal and himself into the honeymoon suite. And he has the keys and he like goes and hides. And so right before Jerry arrived, we had seen Mal put something flammable on top of a heater that says, like, don't put anything flammable on top of here. Seeing that Mal had been planning to start a fire in the building, burn the hotel down. And now the fire has started. When Mal did this, he was hoping to be out of this hotel by now, but oops, now he's locked in the honeymoon suite. And we see Ohm go down to the basement. Sure. And I guess we don't really see him. We see Mal coming into the room and hearing something down in the basement. And he's just like desperately looking for the keys to be able to let himself out of the honeymoon suite to get out of the soon to be burning building and realizes that those keys are also down in the basement. So we're down in the basement. We see Ohm kind of hiding in a corner somewhere, starting to draw a little chalk circle around himself. And just as he's about to finish this circle, we see the little witch face like, oh, she grabs him, cut away, cut back to Mal, who makes his way down and is passing the little trinket curtain and sees the keys in the trinket curtain. And so he's like fiddling with it. They're like, I mean, I certainly don't think you can take things from the trinket curtain. Yeah. He's trying to unhook it, but it's like tied in there pretty good. And of course, just as he gets it free, which is there again, very like he and like slams little shackles on his wrists and pulls him down the hallway. And we see he's like being dragged and he's dragged past Ohm, who we see also has the shackles on, but Ohm's kind of out of it, like has hit his head or something. And Ohm is like further on the chain of shackles. So Mal is getting pulled first. And so we see Ohm kind of coming to and having a vision of his mom coming to him here and like waking him up and saying, like, you have to get up, you have to get up. And he is saying, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. It was, it was an accident and she says, I know, I know you have to get up, but you can't be here. You have to get up. And so he kind of comes to a little bit and finds that he still has the little saw that Fiona used to cut him down. And he starts sawing at the chains, which are like pretty rickety rusty old chains. So they do look, they look like the type that you saw through. And he is able to free himself. He grabs the keys. He's got him. He goes up that dumb waiter. But the building is in flames now. And he's still got a lot of steps to do. He has to get out of this one door and then this metal door that is locked that he's like, it's hot and he's like trying to unlock it. Oh my God, exactly. And he does get it open finally. And he opens the gate and is walking out into the hallway when he's, he passes out from smoke inhalation and collapses. We're like, oh, fuck you so close. Come on, get up. And just then we see Fergal has come up to the hallways. I presumably looking for Jerry because Jerry's car is outside and he's found that Jerry's not there, but he's calling out. Does anybody hear? Is anybody here? And a woman's voice calls out, which I think is supposed to be the mom. And he finds Ome and carries him to safety. A mother's work is never done. Is a mother's day film. So if Silas kills me tomorrow, I will still be overlooking his entire life, including when he is abused by his father and then has to live through a horribly isolating life. And then I'll still be there when a witch tries to attack him. And also when he's going to die in a fire, I'll still be there. I will still be there. Everyone's been saying happy mother's day to you today because you really deserve it. Man, moms, we are put through the wringer. I gotta say, it is true though that it's, you do, I do just now only, I only obsess about my children to a degree that's like, dang, it really hits home. Yeah. It hits home. I am fucking obsessed with them. So yeah, this is horrible. It's like horrific to think about. But it's okay. I'm not thinking about that. I'm thinking about having to cry. I can cork. So don't worry. He didn't die only. The mom died. Yeah. So actually it's really fine. The kid had a horrible child. He did and he seems really, really bad. He had a really bad time. He had a really bad time. It's not a good ending for him. It's not done. It's not done. We're not done. Okay. So just freaking hold your tongue because maybe it's about to get really good for him. Okay. So we are now back in the hospital once again. Ome is recovering. He's going to make it. He's going to be okay. Albie comes to visit him. Cutie. Brings him a little gift. A little get well soon gift. And he confesses that he's like, I feel a little bit responsible for this because I put some of Jerry's magic mushroom powder in your flask, which we've solved for the course of the film. Him drink everything in the flask. And he has a little moment of like, huh, because Jerry said that if people can only see it when the mind is open, I thought this was kind of stupid. I'll be honest, but yeah. Yeah. You don't need to do this in a movie. You don't need to do this. Yeah. And also like what? This kid went into his flask. That's pretty weird. Yeah. To what end? And he's like, well, you burned me with a spoon. So I needed to get revenge. Oh, I see. I see. It was to be mean. Yes. And he's like, I feel really guilty. Save my life. Jokes on you. And the gift that he's gotten him is a bottle of whiskey. Oh, declines it says you keep it. He's turning it. He's turning it. He's turning it. He's turning it. He's turning it. He's turning it. He's turning it. He's turning it. And I mean, if this doesn't do it. Albie says, do you think you could read my script now? And he says, Albie, haven't I been through enough? But then he laughs and says, fine, I'll read it. That's very Adam Scott coded. Yeah. OK. Albie is delighted. We see Adam Scott pull up his manuscript and types out an ending now that we see the back to the conquistador giving the child the bottle to smash on his head instead. And the child throws the bottle into the distance and hugs the conquistador. And that's the end of the book. And that's the end of the movie. Oh, so it was a happy Mother's Day movie. It was a happy Mother's Day movie. He got to rewrite his own childhood trauma. Wait, you guys, you know, I actually have an Albie in this room. Oh, really? For you to see. Yeah. Is this what Albie looked like in the movie? Hold on. Let's see. Can't wait to find it. See a bell boy? Oh, it's coming off the wall. That was unexpected. I'm not kidding. Tim has had this for a long time and named him Albie, like when he was a kid. Some sort of haunted painting. Oh. He's just a little drawing of a little man. That is cute. His name is Albie and he lives on our wall right over there. Cute. That's nice. That's exactly what he looked like, actually. I figured. He's in like a bell hop costume. Yeah, kind of. Wow. So, yeah, I think the book stuff is a little silly. Little silly. And the witch stuff was even silly because the witch stuff didn't even really mean anything. I want to know what the witch friggin did to him. What she did to him. Oh, shit. Sorry. I did forget a part where she pulled Mal into we saw like the underworld. There's like a brief little moment where you see all the souls. Yeah, like, whoa. Okay, so it would have been bad. It would have been bad for, for to go. And the witch was like real, not like a magic mushroom manifestation. That's what I think. But they like threw a little question mark in there for fun, which I think we didn't need. Well, because also there wasn't enough of the witch to believe in the witch, but also there wasn't that much of the witch. So then you're like, well, do I believe in the witch? And like to what end, you know, what's purpose is the witch serving? Yeah. Why is the witch even necessary? Well, again, it's a real Irish slash Gaelic folklore witch. But yeah, no, I hear you that. I mean, it's because it's spooky. That it didn't really necessarily amount to. I still had a lot of fun. It's very fun and it is a very like scary watch. But yeah, did not stick with me. And the desert stuff, it's funny also because in the beginning there's the like production company cards and one of them is like Abu Dhabi film fund or something. And I was like, oh, so they had to, and those scenes are filmed in Abu Dhabi, which I'm sure is why they did that. Yeah, sure. But it does feel quite like shoehorned into the to the movie to me. I don't think it needed it. That's. But Abu Dhabi might have needed it. Abu Dhabi, I think did. For the money. Did want that. And I understand that sometimes you got to make. You got to get the movie made. You got to make the movie in whatever way you can. So they did what they had to do. And overall, I read, I really enjoyed this movie. And I love Irish accents. And I'm realizing now I totally forgot to really do them. Oh, no. But we had some crack. We had some crack. We had a bit to crack in cork. Cork and car. And car. Car, crack. Car, they're dirty. To train and to turn to 30. Oh, shout out to all our Irish listeners. We know it's a real place. We know it's real and we know that it's real because we are experts at it, both in your culture and accent. It's not like Nantucket. It's not like Nantucket. Not like Nantucket. Which is not real. And just a place you read about books. We know the difference between real places and fake places. Just a place you see in Brandy Melville packaging, tween blogs and in books. Correct. Otherwise it doesn't exist. Exactly. Okay. Well, how do you say goodbye in Gaelic? I don't know. And even if I looked it up, I still wouldn't know because that's the whole thing that the language is like not how we pronounce things. That's the whole thing. That's the whole thing. Well, Irish is a Gaelic language, but the language of Ireland is Irish and I'm sure additional languages as well. But it's like, you know, like Sir Charotin, the pronunciations are not intuitive for us English speakers. So I could look it up, but I would still fuck it up. So I'm not going to. Right. Donal. Not donal. No. Correct. Donal. Donal. Donal Gleason. Yeah. Donal. Sir Char. Sir Char. Sir Char. Sir Char. Sir Charotin. Oh, so from all of us here at Too Scary Didn't Watch. Oh, so. Oh, so. Oh, so. Oh, so. Didn't you know? Oh, so. Oh, so. Oh, so. Flowers in the garden. Flowers in the garden. The flowers in the garden. Oh, so. Oh, so from all of us here. Our bar. It's not our bar. Doing our bar and Irish accent. Oh, so goodbye. Cheers. Cheers. Oh, cheers. Cheers to you, but they say it's both places. 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